Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Playing Possessed 🔥 Ft. Owen Newkirk (Dallas Stars Podcast Host) | FN Barn Burner - May 12th, 2025

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Happy Monday. Welcome to another edition of Barnburner there in his palatial estate, somewhere on the water, Rhett Warner, here in our construction-riddled Marteloup Studios, Jack and I. Welcome to a Monday. Red, how are you, buddy? How was parking? I get here quite early, and it's usually pretty good. I have never parallel parked into such a small spot. Like it was a 26-point turn, nearly had a bumper in front and and behind. found it though on the block it's nice to challenge yourself sometimes you got to do that thank you
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Starting point is 00:01:36 high-octane gasoline, speeding, for Medicine Hat. Big game last night. Had to go watch. Couldn't miss it. Tell me about the weekend. So you noted you may have been doing today's show on Medicine Hat. You obviously woke up and said, screw that, we're hitting the road.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I just didn't sleep in as much as I thought. I didn't drink as many beer, hence I could get up and drive. So it was excellent. That's disappointing. Both good and bad, right? So take us down to Sweet Willie Dee's Palace in Medicine Hat. What did you say? Willie Dee?
Starting point is 00:02:07 They had a hell of a hell of a house. start again and then the boys kind of kicked their feet up and they they were worried going in as they hadn't been pushed very heavily the old tigers of the hat yeah and spokane definitely pushed them spokane looked really good yeah what were they 13 and one or something hilarious coming into the last night's right now did you take the young man or do you were you flying solo in medicine the young man looks like mckenna's got a bit of a boo-boo maybe a hip oh a hip that's snowed. How was your pregame speech to the Tigers?
Starting point is 00:02:42 Because I saw they did. I was not invited down for speech. Shockingly, maybe they needed me. Like, come on, fellas. Let's go. You're to help. Did you see what happened to the blades when they let him speak? Keep him the hell away from the room? Sweets, yes.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Dressing room, no. We got a great show for you today. Owen Newkirk's going to join us from the Stars. podcast. He's stars broadcast. We've been covering the stars stretching back over a decade to the Texas stars of the American League. When I was working in that league,
Starting point is 00:03:16 we'll talk ranting. Also, we've got a historically bad baseball team. We do have some updates from the Western Hockey League. The bracket is getting interesting. All these series are like, yeah, okay. Into it. We still don't know
Starting point is 00:03:32 whether you can kick a puck into the net and what's a kicking motion. We'll try to sort that out. And two games tonight, including games four in Carolina and Edmonton, where the home teams are the underdogs at least by seating and have a chance to go up three to one. How much hockey did we watch outside of the medicine hat arena or whatever they're calling it? No, no. And it was good to turn on the radio and listen to the baseball game instead of the hockey game on the ride down, which is. You're happy about that. Ideal. That was, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Anthony Sontund. Come on, it's round two of the playoffs. Yeah. What are we talking? I thought these games didn't matter yet. Are we playing? The Keynes, Washington game?
Starting point is 00:04:18 Let me think about that. Something happened late in that game. It was so boring. You know what's happening? We got two very good defensive hockey clubs and two goalies that aren't letting anything in. In fact, you could go right now, Jack, for it. apparently you don't know how to take this guy's email address either let's send this again
Starting point is 00:04:36 oh my bad oh this one's on me sorry jack details our guest is uh he really threw you under the bus there didn't he jack that was yeah well jack's spelling is notorious from coast to coast to coast how do you spell owen jack it's not oh n okay there it is i forwarded to you we'll get our guest on in moments. I was saying something. Remind me. Oh, yeah, the, the goaltending. So there's,
Starting point is 00:05:11 Money Puck is one of the numerous nerd sites for stats. And they compiled this list, Jack, of the top net miners in the postseason. And to no surprise, it is Carolina and Washington goalies. Her right at the top, Logan Thompson's been awesome for the caps. And Freddie Anderson, hurt bag, when he's healthy, good goalie.
Starting point is 00:05:32 So there it is. It's a lot in a small amount of space, but all you need to know, top two goalies by goals saved above expected, Logan Thompson and Freddie Anderson. So you've got the, we're good at defense and both of our goalies are playing very well. Between the two goalies,
Starting point is 00:05:51 18 goals saved above expected, meaning, yeah, an average netminder would have allowed nine more than each of these guys. That's impressive. Or it's really nerdy and we don't care. way in on either side of that, Red. I'm curious that who's at the bottom of that list. Yeah, Connor, I got a tough round one, Rhett.
Starting point is 00:06:10 He really did. Oh, damn. And old stew. Aden Hill, surprisingly, down there, too, which that year they won the cup. He was awesome. Yeah. He's been less than awesome this year.
Starting point is 00:06:26 It's less awesome this year. Yep. And Robsky looks like he might have turned the corner. He's almost at sea level, but rough. first few games of the Toronto series, never mind round one against Tampa. Are we trying to prove that that series is lame and boring and not with watching or what are we?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, it's kind of adding on to the, hey, nothing's happening. And it's like, yeah, and even if you do get a chance, these goalies are going to make it look routine. Still not going to happen. Yeah, they'll play at five tonight, Washington, Carolina, Carolina huge favorites, minus 275 for Bet365.
Starting point is 00:07:00 and Vegas and Edmonton go at 730. The Oilers, slight, slight, slight favorites in that one. Okay, we have sent the email. We are almost ready to go. He's ready to go. Let's jump to our insider hotline. We do that for Crystal Waters. Plumbing and heating.
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Starting point is 00:07:47 their prospects for well over a decade. Owen Newkirk joins us from the Stars podcast. Newkirk, it's been a long time. How are you, buddy? Pender, my goodness, it's, oh, geez, what is it? 2012, I think. Abbottsford, right? The heat. Yeah. Oh, the heat were heat. Think about this. It's been so long since we've known each other that the Calgary AHL affiliate played 45 minutes away from Vancouver, which to this day still racks my brain. Not within two time zones of anyone else either. It wasn't like it was a popular place to be. You know, I thought our travel schedule in Texas was tough, especially when Houston and San Antonio went away and Oklahoma City.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But how about you guys? I mean, on an island. It was no good. It was no good. It's better here. I'm in a studio eight blocks from my home. There's Rhett Warner at his house with numerous statues behind him. Winning lots of things, I'm sure, Red.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I want to make an anchorman joke about his rich mahogany smell and many, many leatherbound books. I don't read them, but I have them. You don't have to read them. It's just display. Jack can't read either. That's fine. Actually, Rhett rips through books.
Starting point is 00:09:01 He's a hell of a reader. Let's get into the Star Series against the Jets. But to do that, I think to paint the full picture, we're going to go back to the arrival and acquisition of Miko Ranton because their fortunes this postseason have totally swung with him getting on one of the all-time heaters of the NHL postseason. You know, that was the, we were talking about this on our show the other day. By the way, a quick, shameless plug.
Starting point is 00:09:25 It's DLS stars. You can check us out on our YouTube channel, which is DLS Sports. You can also check our website, all dLS.com. Okay, my boss will be happy. I said that. So thanks. We were talking about this on the show.
Starting point is 00:09:38 It was me and Craig Ludwig last, it was last night. Sorry, guys. I don't know what day it is. I was talking to Pender on the phone earlier. It's either game day or not game day in the playoffs. Apparently it's Monday. That's news to me, too. So last night after the game,
Starting point is 00:09:53 which was game three, we were talking about how when Rantanin was first acquired at the deadline, the thing that jumped out of the page more than anything else was his playoff numbers, 100 points and 80 games. And you're going, man, that guy's a beast in the postseason. We know what he was like and how important he was with Colorado.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And especially when you get into their run to the Stanley Cup in 22, he was a big factor. But then, you know, things just sort of happened early on. And he had a couple of points early and then was kind of quiet. fortunately I think from my analysis we had a lot of experience with Joe Pavelsky being in Dallas and Joe is a phenomenal player Hall of Famer in my take great human being did not play well
Starting point is 00:10:39 in his first 60 plus games so when he came to Dallas it was right before the lockdown it was 2019 2020 he just didn't look like Joe Pavelski and a lot of people and we were part of it saying maybe this is why San Jose didn't extend a contract and why they let their captain walk. Well, after the lockdown shutdown in the spring of 2020, and then the Edmonton bubble emerged and it was like Pavelsky unlocked. He was his normal self again. And for the next three years, he looked just like Joe Pavelsky and was an incredible
Starting point is 00:11:15 influence in the room. I mean, talk about a mentor to Wyatt Johnston and everything that he brought to the Dallas Stars. he vastly increased our leadership group in Dallas. I think he helped Jamie Ben immeasurably in that category as well. And then the end of last season, we started to see Father's time catching up. And Joe always said he was never built on speed in his game. But even then, it looked like the game was getting past him a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:41 So it was a shame they couldn't win the cup for him last year because, you know, there's always guys that deserve it that never do in their NHL careers. He's one of those. Well, I tell you all that to say, say that that was exactly the feeling with Miko Ranton. It was, hey, take your time. The difference is, is Miko came to Dallas. He's in the prime of his career.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Joe was sort of at the back end of it. But be patient. He'll be fine. But I'm going to be very honest, of course. There's no way any of us would have, even with that being said, predicted 17 playoff points in his last six playoff games. I mean, it's, it's unbelievable what he's doing. End of the Colorado series.
Starting point is 00:12:24 That was a weird one. It didn't seem like momentum existed. Colorado looked great at home. They come to Dallas. Dallas looks great. Back and forth we go. You really didn't get a sense of one team taking over. Every game was like a fresh roll of the dice.
Starting point is 00:12:38 There's got to be a lot of reflecting and looking in the mirror if you're the Colorado front office watching that guy rip your heart out in game six and seven. Yeah. I mean, I understand initially. I think I understand. So let's let's back up. I'm not in the minds of Joe Sackick and Chris McFarland. I think I sort of from the outside perspective get where they're coming from.
Starting point is 00:13:03 They were having a very stiff negotiation with Miko Ranton's representation or his agent, whatever. And they felt they were at an impasse. That's the, you know, everything you hear and talk to people, it feels like they were, I don't know if terrified is the right word, but they were concerned that they were going to lose him for nothing in free agency. Hindsight, Miko didn't want to go anywhere. He wanted to play the rest of his career in Colorado. So they clearly misread the situation.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Now, to be fair, did his agent also misread things because he was playing such hard ball because he knew he wasn't going to go anywhere. And they were clearly blindsided by him being traded to Carolina. So in that sense, maybe both sides are at fault for not sort of taking a step back. and realizing what's best for the player. I mean, you played for a long time. I think one of the things that sticks in my brain is Mark Jenko, the star's assistant general manager,
Starting point is 00:14:03 has told us that he thinks it's, and he means this genuinely, this isn't just management speak. It's vitally important for to not try to win negotiations. It's to try to make sure that both sides are relatively okay with it. Because if one side wins it too much, there can be resentment on the other side. And I think that's something that they were concerned about in Colorado.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Well, that's always one of the things they say about the, the RFAs when they go to arbitration is it gets ugly in there, right? Exactly. In the lawyer, in the, in the whatever, in front of the judge or whoever is making the determination, well, you're trying to paint that other, your player is the worst player in the world. Like, what do you want me for if I'm that shitty? So yes, I do agree with that because it's, it's a negotiation, but there shouldn't be animosity between it, like, especially the guy like Grant.
Starting point is 00:14:59 And do you guys remember the, of course you do, the Jeremy Swayman situation. As Red just pointed out, a year ago, he went through RFA arbitration and heard from the Bruins representative at that arbitration hearing all the reasons why he shouldn't be given the money that he wants. But we want to sign you again. It's an ugly part of that. And I think trying to avoid our, is probably a smart move by most people. Well, what, what happened? Swayman went from happy go lucky, great to be here, NHL or two. Oh, my eyes have been open to the business side of it. And he was, and I completely respect how he did this, ruthless with his negotiation for his big contract.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Now look at the flip side. What did the Dallas Stars do? They saw Swayman's deal. Their management approach Jake Ottinger and said, this seems like a pretty fair deal. what do you guys think? And they basically signed up for the same money without the months of drama and media talk. I mean, obviously, Swain and learned from his arbitration situation the year before. And while he's still in Boston and he signed a big long deal, I'm sure that's stuck with him.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I mean, players don't let that stuff go, right? If you hear a bunch of negativity, even from the team that wants to give you all the money, we all know it. The memory banks note, I mean, players latch on to the littlest things for most. motivation anyway, let alone something that big. Yeah, the management's telling you, wow, that's just negotiations, just business. Well, can't unhear that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Remember that? She goes shooting with my wife. She's not going to unhear it. Very fair. But anyway, to bring it back to the rancet in question mark is just that he's, he's been such a professional from our standpoint, you know, covering him in Dallas. He went through a gauntlet. He had to go to Carolina.
Starting point is 00:16:51 when he first got to Dallas, it was at the deadline and he met the team in Edmonton. The team was actually traveling. They left before the deadline passed. I think Jim Nill gave the team the go ahead of everybody that's on the plane can go because you don't want to be stuck on a team charter flight
Starting point is 00:17:11 to Edmonton when you're about to go to Carolina. And Logan Stancoven didn't go on that trip for that reason. Jim Nill stayed behind. He did his thing and then I think he met the team later. So Rantening meets the team. in Edmonton. We don't really have the full Dallas media because it's in Canada. It's not in Texas. And so after that road trip, which I believe extended to Vancouver the next day, gosh, I can't even remember yesterday, let alone a month or two ago, came back and we had a practice day and in full media. And he came in and immediately said, I want to set the record straight.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I did not tell Carolina that I'm not going to sign here when I first got there. He said, That happened about a week before the deadline. I gave them a real chance and it just didn't feel right for the next eight years, whether it was on the ice or off the ice, it didn't feel right from a hockey perspective. And so I thought I was doing the right thing by telling them, go ahead and trade me if you'd like because I'm not going to sign a free agency. And that was a big sticking point because there were people out of Carolina. And of course, Brindamore probably stepped in it a little bit by saying he never wanted to sign here.
Starting point is 00:18:21 And that wasn't true. But he's been, I didn't really know Miko Ranson and the human being before this year. I mean, we've watched him for years. But just hearing, I mean, he has backed up everything he said.
Starting point is 00:18:32 He's, he's done every media request. He's extremely polite. He's not shy to make sure his point is heard. But he, I can't imagine the emotions that he's gone through, being ripped away from Denver without wanting to. Then, of course,
Starting point is 00:18:47 the whole Carolina thing, the four nations sprinkled into that. that he's handled things extremely well. Of course it's going to take a little bit of time. But this playoff series is just, it's kind of stupid how good he is because he's, I looked at it last night. He has double the points from game five against Colorado. So his last six games, he has double the points of the next highest score in the
Starting point is 00:19:10 he's lapped the field in the NHL playoffs. That's wild. I think they had a goal last night, which was the first out of 14 goals where he wasn't involved. Back to the game five. Yes. And then he had two more points after that. Including that big goal that made it four, too.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I mean, he was not done. Yeah. Okay. We got, you mentioned the Four Nations. We got familiar with Thomas Harley there. I think he's always sort of been a favorite of the stats folks. And I always thought him as a really good up-and-coming defenseman.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I know when Chris Tannav went there from Calgary a couple of years ago, they'd rented the injuries. He was playing a bit more. But I don't know that I thought he'd be this good. Tell us about his postseason. season and they've locked up most of this young core, but it is he and Jason Robertson that are going to need deals. Everyone else has got a long-term deal that's young. Tell us about Thomas Harley. Well, I believe that the world at Four Nations got to see what we see on a regular basis in Dallas,
Starting point is 00:20:10 which is that Harley is a very composed, well-rounded defenseman. He, of course, came in as an offensive guy. Great skater, not afraid to get in the attack, can shoot the puck. And one of the things about his game that's a little different from Miro's is he does shoot quicker. He's looking to shoot more. Miro likes to dish and distribute and, you know, far from me from to criticize his game because he's otherworldly too. But when he first got to Dallas, he was in the taxi squad. Remember those back in the bubble? He keep talking about the Edmonton bubble these days, but he, it was traumatic for everybody, I'm sure. You don't remember the flames exit there?
Starting point is 00:20:49 Oh, yeah, you would have remembered that. Yeah. I kind of do. Yeah, Joe Paveltsky had a big game against the plane, too, if I remember that. Yeah, so the first game he ever played in the NHL was in that round robin for the teams that were seated, and it was against the Colorado Avalanche. And he said it was, the stars looked terrible. We thought they were going to go home, maybe against Calgary in that first round, because in those playing or, you know, warm up games. They just look dreadful. And they turned to switch on
Starting point is 00:21:19 somehow during the Flame series and then got rolling. Harley said it was eye opening. He said the speed is, again, he was playing against McKinn. Imagine having to face Nathan McKinnon at your first idea of NHL speed. And he went, I'll be a lot better in the next
Starting point is 00:21:35 game. And then he didn't play much because of course, you know, the depth of the team and everything like that. Rick Bonas was the stars head coach at the time. And he was adamant that Thomas Harley needed to work on the defensive side of his game. He said, I don't care how great his offense is. If he can't defend, he can't play for us. So the next year, and now Pete DeBore becomes a head coach. And Bones was right, by the way. He knew what he was talking about. Great coach. Harley doesn't
Starting point is 00:22:01 have a great training camp and get sent to the AHA. And he played the full year there, 65 games or something like that. Didn't get called up once. The stars GM, Jim Nill said he thought that year, trying to dig the memory banks a little bit, that he was going to get it recalled injury by December or something like that. It never happened. They stayed very healthy. And Harley said, and I'll never forget this, when he got called up, it was late in the regular season.
Starting point is 00:22:26 It was in March. And he kind of got an audition because we did have an injury. And he looked like a transformed player. And he said, I grew up. And what did he do? He spent, he didn't, when they sent him down to the HL, they didn't give him power play time. They didn't care about his offense.
Starting point is 00:22:43 They said, we want you to learn and work on. your defense. And he did that. And he said, he got into the minutia a little bit about stick position and angles based on the shoulder of the attacking player and what part of the ice you want to be at. I don't want to bore all the listeners with that, although maybe they want to hear it. And he just, he, he said that he, that was really important to him to realize how to be a professional at, especially at the NHL level, right? In the minors, and again, I'm trying not to do this. We have a real hockey player in our midst. So I should let Brett do it, but you know, you can get away with being a bit one-sided if you do something really well in the
Starting point is 00:23:22 HL, which is a phenomenal league. But if you have holes in your game, the NHL will find it very quickly and they will exploit it very quickly. And Harley developed that. And he just continued to shine. He's such a good player. Ret, your thoughts on the series of the Jets? Just anything for Owen on the stars or where this is headed? No, I'm just, I still think.
Starting point is 00:23:45 they're not as emotionally, after those first two round, or the individual rounds, those stars in Colorado and the Jets coming back on that emotional, I don't see the emotion as high as it was in the first round. Like that St. Louis, then Jets series was crushing and not to take anything away from it, but doesn't feel as emotional as the first round series for these two teams. Do you think that's recency bias, though,
Starting point is 00:24:11 in the sense that, meaning because of the way both of those first, round series ended, right? I just, yes. Because it's only game three, right? Game four is tomorrow night. That's my thought.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I mean, those game sevens, those are two of the best we've ever seen, let alone, let alone the emotion of it. I can't imagine what it's like coming off of that and going, we're only a quarter of the way from our ultimate goal here. We've got to do this again, possibly three more times.
Starting point is 00:24:38 But, you know, no, it's just going to say the way the stars and jets played, Dallas isn't a overtly aggressive team as far as the physicality and the animosity. They've picked it up a bit in the playoffs, probably out of necessity. But during the regular season, they were frequently out hit. And it's not because the guys aren't tough enough. They just don't play that game, right?
Starting point is 00:25:00 Their game is pock possession, scoring chances, transition, trying to get stuff off the rush. It's not trying to tattoo teams up against the boards and trying to beat them off the ice. St. Louis definitely played that and I think very well against the Jets and I'm sure the stars are trying to do that a little bit but frankly you know what it's not necessarily Dallas getting in Hellbuck's way it's his own guys some of the goals that have gone in in the series
Starting point is 00:25:26 for the stars have been because he's been screened by his own players and I don't know if Dallas gets any credit for that or not but they're definitely trying to create some traffic it's just been a lot of friendly fire what did you make of the kick versus not kick goal versus no goal review that was a confusing one. And the deeper we look in this rulebook, the more confused I am about what's a goal and what isn't, I'll tell you that. My take is not trying to sound stars base, but for Jets fans, they're going to
Starting point is 00:25:51 say, oh, he's a Dallas covery guy. So, of course, he's going to do it. It's a soccer thing. And it's easy. It's an own goal, right? Whether there, to me, there's not much of a distinct kicking motion. He clearly sticks his skate out to get the puck. It's not this huge, I'm going to kick one into the upper 90 kind of thing. But regardless of that, if you look at the trajectory, it's headed back across the crease. It's not going in. In soccer, it's an own goal if a defensive player or a goalie
Starting point is 00:26:19 changes the angle of a shot that's not going in to go in. Well, if you watch Helvick, this isn't a deflection. He moves his stick and he literally swats it into his own goal. It's unfortunate. I get it. I wonder if there was it, I think it was it Morgan Barron. It was a skate that looked like maybe
Starting point is 00:26:37 took a little, it doesn't matter. We could do a Zabruder film on this and do the Seinfeld thing of the spit went back into the left. But ultimately, to me, I think we all knew this is not, there's no intent on Petrovich's part to try to kick this puck in the neck. He's trying to corral one that on a rebound got into his feet. Every hockey player will see that in his feet, kick it out and whatever. The, if you guys remember the first round series with the Colorado Avalanche, Arturi Leckin and scored in one of the goofiest goals I've ever seen where he kicked it up over Jake Ottinger and in. I've never seen that before, but you know, there's no way he's intending to kick that in.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And the goal stood. And I thought that was more of a kick in than Petrovich. So my take is regardless of the kicking motion, whether there was much of it or not, I don't think there is. It's not going in. It hits Hella Buck stick. And it's not like it deflected off the heel of his stick and goes in. He literally swats it with the toe. So to me, I think they got the call right.
Starting point is 00:27:37 But boy, it took seven minutes. That was a long review. Yeah, apparently they got the full Freebird song played, which is nice to the guitar solo. Yeah. Last one for you. Owen, just an update on Miro Hayskin. When do you expect to see him and what kind of Miro Haskin and are we going to see? You know, is it a guy laboring?
Starting point is 00:27:55 Is it someone that you just think steps in and looks like himself? It's hard to tell with Mero because every time you'd count him out, he'd come back and look superhuman. I don't know if we're going to see him in this series. Really? He said a couple of days ago he will play. but then every day it keeps getting pushed back one more. We've watched him skate. He's skating hard,
Starting point is 00:28:15 but everybody made this big deal of, oh, Jason Robertson came back before Miro Hayskin. Jason Robertson had a minor tweak of, it looked like they never said it officially. It looked like a knee. It looked like Michael McCarran of Nashville in the last game of the regular season, kind of backed into him.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And, you know, that's like a sprain or something. Tweet something, he's out a couple of weeks. He's back. That's not a long in time, injury to come back from. Mero Hayskin and had, we still don't know exactly what kind of knee surgery and how to, to what degree it was. But whenever you have major knee surgery, you don't just pop back and feel yourself after four months or five months or something like that. So I'm honestly surprised that they, he's been that close, maybe a testament to his athleticism and the work he puts in
Starting point is 00:29:02 in rehab. But frankly, guys, I don't know if we'll see him this round. And he's, He's got to be close because they keep putting him through some pretty hard stuff now. But Pete has said repeatedly, the doctors have to sign off on certain things. It's not just that does Miro feel good. I believe they've had a timeline the whole time and may not be popular, but I don't think he was ever slated to play against Colorado. I think that that was maybe a little gamesmanship from the stars saying, well, there's a chance he could play.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And then they just kicked the can because they truly knew he wasn't actually going to play. So frankly, I just, I don't think he's going to play this round. Right. We talked about it. Like, if you're ahead in the series, no need. Yeah, I don't think you're going to risk it if bringing it back early at all. If you're ahead in the series, if you're down three, two or maybe you start thinking about it. Well, let me ask you this, Rhett, Mero Haskinen's long-term future, that's more important even than a playoff run, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:30:06 Wow, it is. you get as a player you have a hard time with that like team needs me I think I can help the team I want to be in there I play hockey because I want to win we've got a really good team we've got a chance to win I don't want to be out all of next year
Starting point is 00:30:24 like so it's a it's a tough mental battle yeah I agree with that entirely oh and tell us what uh the podcast you're doing what kind of schedule are on and where people can catch your work and then we'll let you get out of here and back to your day A second shameless plug. Ryan, you're the best. Yeah, we, I worked for the Dallas Stars as the radio host for the last 10 years.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And then this past summer, I was approached by all city networks, didn't really think I was going to do it. And then they made me an offer I couldn't refuse. And so we started, I started hosting the DLS Stars podcast in August of 2024. And we've been doing it five shows a week ever since. Me, Craig Ludwig, our writer Sam Nessler, and our columnist, Sean Shapiro, who is not always, in Dallas, mostly in his remote in Detroit or suburban Detroit. And so we do five shows a week. If there's a game day, that means one of our regular weekday pods doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:31:18 But we do a pregame and a post game. And for road games, a watch along, it's all on YouTube. It's also on all the audio streaming platforms, whether it's Apple, podcast, Spotify, you name it. You can find that anywhere. But we have a show today, guys, 2 o'clock central time with former Dallas stars, play-by-play announcer Ralph Strangis, in our studio. in downtown Dallas. It'll be me, Ralph, Ludd's, Sam, our producer, John, all from two to three central
Starting point is 00:31:45 time. So if you want to hear from the old Ralphie boy who is in Dallas for games three and four, check us out on YouTube. Or, by the way, it's also on Victory Plus now. Sorry, I forgot about that. And Victory Plus. Good Calgary story, by the way. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:33:01 Okay, lots in there. We had to jump to that right away. We've talked about Rett's Adventures and Medicine Hat. Saw Cammy doing some good work down there for the WHL. It's a 2-3-2 in the Western Hockey League final. So they're on the van right now heading to spoke. Well, yeah, they play tomorrow. That's a nine-hour bus ride.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I'm like, ooh. They go Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday. They play three and four after that nine-hour bus ride. That's heavy. Heavy. Who stood out to you last night? The Berkeley Cat and Kid jump or what? Well, yeah, Spokane.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I mean, I was kind of, you know, when you're in a suite? Were you schmoozing? You're in a suite and you're not really. Mr. Ken Holland was there. Kenny. X Tiger. But is he tell you where he's going next? No, but.
Starting point is 00:33:54 It's been some whispers. A lot of whispering. A lot of whispers. All the things being said. That would be professional, uh, and interest in your career, so I didn't ask any of that crap. You're a pro.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Let's get to our opening statements. He talked about Kami. It was great. He talked about Kami. Yeah. Does he like Kami? He likes Kami. Everyone likes Kami.
Starting point is 00:34:22 They golf together all the time. Kama goes to all his golf tournaments. Not to golfing. But I think he was there when Kami was just done with Babs. So who knows? No, other pals, that is, that's good stuff. Opening statements from a cloud law, we do that for Peter Klein, Shane, Shane King and the rest of the gang, whether it's personal injury,
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Starting point is 00:35:30 So a couple things here. we discussed the kicking goal. Now, you may have been busy watching the tigers. I saw the highlights and the, we heard about the delays and the. Interesting call here. As this, this turns out to be a huge goal,
Starting point is 00:35:45 I believe it's tied to two to at this juncture. Petrovich's like, I'll just put this towards the net. It's wild because it's off his foot. He is intending to hit the puck, but is it a swing? Is he kicking at it? Nah, it's more of a direction.
Starting point is 00:36:01 And to Owen's point, He's not trying to score. He's trying to get this thing out front. Let me or kick it to his stick. Sure. I don't even have gone off Morgan Barron's stick as well. That's a tough one if you're a Jets van. But again, the NHL really good at making it hard to know what a goal
Starting point is 00:36:19 and what a goal is and isn't so much so that even the refs needed almost 10 minutes here. Yeah. And 10 minutes during a playoff game is insanity. Yeah, I want to get it right, but I don't even think they know. Yeah. And that's just it. Did they get it right? I would, okay, but I'm not sold on.
Starting point is 00:36:39 They got it right. Maybe, probably. Guess what? You're the league, so you get to decide. Yeah, maybe just decide quicker than seven minutes. Yeah. Other thing from that game, Mason Marchman, some player with some edge and a guy that has a history with officials,
Starting point is 00:36:58 there's a sequence that they showed on hockey night last night where a couple missed calls. And is he embellishing? Is he not? I don't know. Is he happy about it? No, absolutely not. Gets up.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Watch his stick here, retro. A little tap on the shin of the referee. That's a little risky. It's very risky. And I would leave it up to the ref to decide what the issue. Yeah. And that's that, I believe is what the rulebook says. It's the discretion of the official to call that.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I will say this. the NHL. Handing no parking tickets. This is an easy parking ticket because instead it's a precedent. You can't not find that. And you can find it and it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything. Parking ticket.
Starting point is 00:37:43 He doesn't miss a game anyway. Yeah. So a couple there. Vegas Evanton played on Saturday. Sadly, didn't have my attention on that game. But I guess we'll have to check in and see what happens. Let me know what happened.
Starting point is 00:37:58 So busy. I think this went to overtime, Jack. Let's have a look. Look at the clock, right? It had to have gone to O dear. Hang on. Clock's at zero, Jack? Yeah, overtime.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I think that was in. Oh, welcome back, son. I walked into the house. I was at La Crosse, and it was 3-2 Vegas. I think they were up, right? You saw the McDavid, the eyes with three or something left? Yeah, I'm like, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:38:29 And then this happened? I can't lie. there was a lot of cheering and woping it up. Did you go down to the cellar and crack out a nice bottle you'd been saving for a momentous occasion? Kmas, you say, all right. Now, what's funny is I had the Leon DrySettle anytime coal. It didn't pay out there, Jack. What?
Starting point is 00:38:49 Hey, we got a series now. I know that. I don't know. Comey. I took a hard run at nurse, eh? Like, on that. Well, let's report it. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I don't know what. to think on it. I mean, I think this is, uh, you got to know the clock. All of it, but this to me is, is like rant in last Saturday and the Jets last Sunday. Okay. It's hockey gods. It's hockey gods. This is nothing to do with, I think it's a hell of a play by Smith, but he's not putting it in the net and it's just a shitty bounce by dry sidle. And I understand the guy's going down to block the shot because if, again, I was thinking, well, you better rip it because you're out of time and he didn't and it still ended up in the net.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Yeah, there's a second left there. I get why darn hell lies down there for sure. Yeah. So I think this is hockey gods again. This is nothing to do with, like I said, great play by Smith, ballsy play. And he was right in his interview. He said, well, those guys were right in front of me. And that's what they were trying to do.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Block the shot. And he's like, well, I can't shoot it because they're going to block it. Still ended up in the net. shitty luck for the Oilers. Great luck for the Vegas. And for us as well, because we get a better series. I think now, 3-0, that thing was cooked, although obviously it would have been going to overtime.
Starting point is 00:40:17 No pickard tonight. He's been rolled out for game four. He's soft. God. It was funny. I do remember thinking after game two, boy, it looks like he's playing through something here in overtime. He kept stretching that quad.
Starting point is 00:40:29 He got run into. Oh, God. How are they hurt all the time? Are they playing a different sport than 10, 15, 20 years? It's not as tough. It's obvious. Hello. Not as tough as you guys were.
Starting point is 00:40:42 They aren't because even in medicine hat last night, 6-2 loss at home. No one's going to bump the goalie here? No scraps? Crickets? Oh, okay. Maybe they needed you to give a speech after the game. Couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Do we have the Toronto, Florida goal, the game winner? Sam Bennett, another big goal. it was a tight one. Playoff performer, you'd say, hey, Ryan? Yeah, playoff Sam Bennett's a thing, for sure. He's going to get so much money this summer red if he doesn't resign in Florida. Like, I'm starting to think he might get 10. 10?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Why not? I mean, it's not the most realistic, rational offer that gets the player July 1. It's the craziest. Is there one GM out there crazy enough to give this guy 10? Because I like Sam Bennett, I hope he does get 10, but you better not be the team doing it. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. But honestly, you see the cap's going up almost 10 million a year now?
Starting point is 00:41:39 You're like, yeah, it's going to be too much. Who cares? Put this guy behind Badard in Chicago. You know, Trilliving doesn't get Marnery up, get this guy. I don't know. I just think he's going to get stupid money. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Misconstru that. But I'll probably just resign there for seven and a half or something like that. Life's good. Florida. We'll see how the series goes. Now, I want you to watch the D-Man here. Chris Tanna, as Bennett's coming in on the is pointing and saying, hey, hey, you get that guy.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Pause. Yeah, there it is. Look what he's saying, Rhett. There's a stick. He's pointing. It says, McCabe. Go get to that guy. So it's important to recognize that the guy,
Starting point is 00:42:20 Bennett's a lefty with the stick into the middle of the ice. Right. Now, I've also bitched about, you can't let the pass go across. I don't. Lesser two, I believe Tanev is playing this right. And he said it's McCabe coming back. and I don't know where he's headed.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And so Tano's basically pointing to Bennett saying, I'm going to take away the pass. Try to Pester Bennett, beat him to the net. He's got to talk more. Take puck. Oh, we're both going to take the... Well, we had two on for Hagee and we bumped into each other. Did you see Tannav eyeball him afterwards?
Starting point is 00:43:00 Call him an idiot. Tand doesn't say much. I don't know where McCabe's going. That's a poor read. Watch Tannov's eyes here. He just kind of puts his head down. He just took us out. buddy
Starting point is 00:43:12 big goal shut out for bobravsky it looked much better we showed you the nerd numbers on goalies he's had a rough postseason but looked pretty damn good they didn't test them at somebody it looked much better as the series has gone on 2-2 going back to Toronto now
Starting point is 00:43:29 feels like seven wow and when Toronto was up early game one I'm like wow Edmonton Toronto this is gonna suck I jakes them. Anything you can do to help. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I think that's all the whiteboard we got. Is that it? That's all. Okay. Very good. Okay. Very good. Up it up a da.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Papada. Papada. We got a date. We are locked and loaded. May 30. We will see you at Greta for the 9-99. Rhett? What are the nine's all about?
Starting point is 00:44:10 I believe it's a baseball thing. Nine innings. That's correct. And what do you do at a ball game? You eat hot dogs. Nine dogs. Yeah. What else do you do at a ball game?
Starting point is 00:44:22 I'm in the nine dogs. You're going to drink nine beer. I think that's probably going to try to do it. Wonderful. Five o'clock athletics, J's, Greta, with the origin, barnburner, blondes are going to be there. Bontan meat's going to source us some. championship dogs to be eaten,
Starting point is 00:44:41 like the dog eating championship dogs maybe. The 999, you'll be able to participate. More details coming this week. Got a tete, a tte, a vet of that Casey at Greta this week. So we'll hammer down some of these details. That's the meeting of the minds.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Tete a tent. Croatian. The idea being, come with your pals. Enjoy some great origin beer. Hang out at Greta. We'll have T-shirts for those who complete it might even throw in some free gaming you know greta tons of fun it's the best and pender loves competition so challenging so does jack he'll be in it jack's gonna be there he and his
Starting point is 00:45:22 lugan buddies hopefully you guys don't get kicked out of greta this time good a good idea jack come on jack yeah that'd be a deal no is that your fault or someone else's last time that wasn't my fault right never i'm excited for this don't let old puky mcgillicetty come do this eh yeah other buddies can do it, not him. You have a puky, bigillicity in your, wow. Well, that's what I got kicked out of Greta. Oh, so weak. That's pretty soft.
Starting point is 00:45:51 So weak. Red's going to be there. RJ's coming in. We'll have representatives from origin, Greta, maybe even bond. I'm trying to convince Greg. I don't think it's going to happen. Either way, going to be a ton of fun. Can't wait.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Good to have Greta back on board. We'll be at the alley. the side and it'll be a ton of fun. The Js, the A's, the gaming, the hot dogs, the beers, the good times, the Barneys. So I look for more details later this week as we get closer to the May 30, 9, 9, 9. Pinda Report Time, Rhett? You ready? Yes, I am. Can't get you all schooled in the world of sports.
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Starting point is 00:46:53 Village Honda.com. Jack, we start. With the wrenches mail bag. Ryan Pike, taking your mail? Talking about stuff. What have we got here? Oh, I like this topic. Dustin Wolf's next contract,
Starting point is 00:47:11 offseason changes, and McKenzie Uighers future. Right, you tried to run Uighger. I've not touching that. Once ago, and the wolf contract is a very interesting one for me because in this league,
Starting point is 00:47:26 at that position, young guys really got to prove it, but this kid is such an outlier because he's been the best goal in every league he's played in promptly. and, you know, isn't far from that already after just one full season in the NHO. I say give them all the money, right? Well, I'm kind of the same way.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And then in three years, you'll be able to go, geez, we really jumped the gun here. Maybe. There have been young guys that have popped up and looked great and then disappeared. But I don't know. It doesn't feel like Wolf is on that trajectory. It doesn't. But give me eight years, please, because they got next year, then he's got Arb Wrights. Just lock him up to an eight year extension, nine more years of wolf build around that.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Yeah, go ahead. Get it right. Did you get to see the young Basha play? I did. Yep. I liked this player a lot. I really liked him in Penticton. He's hardly played all year.
Starting point is 00:48:23 And his pike notes here played his first game of 2025 on Friday night, game one of the WHL championship series. Game two was last night. Let's start on Friday, opening shift of the game. by Dawson and Cowan to answer. Well, that didn't take long, did it, David, those guys, especially with Gavin McKenna on the ice and then making plays. It's still pressing the score.
Starting point is 00:48:57 That's how you do it, Rhett. First shift back after missing months. What's all this stress about? Let's just play. Let's just go play. And beloved by his teammates, one of the longest serving medicine hat tigers, flame second rounder from this past summer.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Welcome to the score sheet. First shift. Did you miss it? Yeah, he looks excited. Now let's fast forward to last night. Another quick start for the Tigers. Basha wasn't the only player returning from injury. Caden Lindstrom, the fourth overall pick in last year's draft. He also came back for game one of the finals.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Look at Basha here. Dish. Great dish. Lindstrom pounces on the rebound. And Basha is going nuts for his pal that also has not played all year. until the WHL final. I said it last week. You're heading bash and the stars.
Starting point is 00:49:59 They're alone. They'd be one of the top lines in the, yes. You just get to add that line after the line McKenna's on. Yeah. Crazy. Great sign for the Flames prospect. Great to see him on the ice.
Starting point is 00:50:13 He is a late birthday. So he was a year older than most of his draft class, meaning he is eligible for the American League next year. I imagine you're going to see a lot of basher on the Wranglers next year. Go get him, kid. What long are you wearing a better than that? Get him up to the Wranglers. Come on.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go look at the bracket. NHL. We are well into it. Eight teams left every series within striking distance.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Nobody got the 3-0 strangle hold. Only one series has gone four games. That was the Leafs and Panthers last night. It's square. They all theoretically could be square through four. bottom games tonight. It is 5 o'clock, Washington, Carolina, 730, Vegas, Edmonton. As for the results last night, we've talked about them.
Starting point is 00:51:03 We'll show you them one more time. Florida's back in this series, despite losing the first two. They're all square and Dallas with a chance to get a stranglehold heading home, or is it Winnipeg evening things up? That's where that series lies. As for some of the notes on last night, we told you rant and was good. Here's some data backing things up.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Well, we'll show you the goal first. This is 3-1. Deeks against scores. Make it 4-1. 4-2, excuse me. And, yeah, one goal game suddenly. I'm going to whiteboard this red or are we good? I can't whiteboard because I can't do that, so I can't offer any.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Yeah, Andre, excuse me, Hellebuck down a little early, but that's just ranton and doing ranton and things. Wow. Oh, and they still have his assist up on the Chiron at the top. You just set up the other one scored right away after. How good is you doing, Jack? Well, in NHL history, nine plus goals and eight plus assists over a six-game span, he's done it.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Wayne's done it. End of list. Oh, short, short, short list. Yeah, it's brief. Nice to not read like 10 names there. Really helps the show. Good Lord, he's on a heater. And I wondered, he didn't look great in Carolina.
Starting point is 00:52:25 It was a slow start in Dallas. Maybe Colorado did know how much was Rantanin versus McKinnon. And, well, Naznew, he was there. He was his teammate. They won a cup together a few years ago. Rule number one, you always keep the dogs. Hashtag 96, that's Rantan's number. Is that rule number one?
Starting point is 00:52:44 I didn't know that. Well, Nass, it's a good rule to have. Keep the dogs. But as a rule number one, I mean, like. always keep your dogs I've never what's your what's your rule number one
Starting point is 00:52:57 put a goalie in that don't be a dog don't be a dog no that's that's a horrible rule don't buy a dog don't buy a dog yeah don't be a dog owner he's talking okay
Starting point is 00:53:11 different stuff well it's fairly easy to keep little pot shots right here too I mean ranton been unbelievable tonight here's what we're looking at five o'clock Washington Carolina
Starting point is 00:53:25 730 Vegas today Edmonton. All right. Let's go. Even series are 3-1 leads. We find out tonight. Odds are suggesting books like Carolina being up 3-1 minus 275. Oilers and Knights nearly a coin toss. Orler's slight favorites there. Difference of the over-under, you'll notice, Rhett. Yes. Lowell Town in Edmonton. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. This feels like a lot up top. I don't know. You sure you don't want to make that four and a half? It's been so long. I know which way I'm leaning. Yeah, we'll talk about it later on her bets.
Starting point is 00:54:01 No doubt. Washington Carolina, super low scoring we've heard. On top of that, Vegas, Edmonton, the opposite. Edmonton's gotten over seven of the last nine. And, you know, Pickard's been ruled out for game four. But they do have a secret weapon in the building.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Do you know this? Well, I'm in the building, but in Edmonton? look who's jacked for the Edmonton Oilers. Just soaking in it. Loving life. Happy to be here. Pumped. Just jacked.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Never wanted. He's like ranting. Never wanted to leave. Never. Yeah. Real hard. What are the other walls of that place like? Because that's a lot of orange and blue.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Yeesh. Well, if it's in Edmonton, I'm expecting all walls to be. very similar because that's... Nice to get a cane-signed jersey when you're not a lawyer. Hard to get, I'm told. Oh. I don't have you saw what they're doing in Winnipeg, Jack.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Redd. Kyle Connor, they've been calling him, Kyle bleeping Connor, which of course the acronym is KFC. So, and Connor, KFC in Winnipeg. I repeat, a Kyle Connor themed KFC is now
Starting point is 00:55:29 in Winnipeg for the whiteout. Oh, it's so cool. 1275 Portage. it's to celebrate round two for the jets now the big crunch meal is all i need before the white out to keep me fueled for the game and also it's like a big crunch ritual at this point the new signs look great as well kfc go off and go jets go k v conner kfc i was saying kyle fabulous connor by the way what did you think i was saying all right that's enough uh tictock their shirt that's horrible they rebrand it as soon as jack saw that cooked jets are done that's what he wrote back Yeah, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:56:04 If you're going to be that cheesy, you're hooped. We don't need to carry on. This is the equivalent of the senator's song. This might be worse. I'll be honest. Fan anthems really are just a stroke of horrible luck for these teams. Remember when the flames were looking good against the Oilers, the fan anthem dropped.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Created the franchise. Quarter century team was finally announced. I know you were very jacked on this. Oh, finally we can see it all. Somehow Nikita Kutjavu, I think, might be leading the quarter century in scoring to not make this team. There's a bias? A lot of good players there, sure.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Mark, Rutherford, Roberto. I still don't understand the, the trickling out of the player because none of it makes, now there's all kinds of goalies in there that played in the 90s. Yeah. They were just trying to do a sloth. trickle.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Didn't really make a lot of sense. Yeah, but again, we've discussed it. How about five at a time? Good work. Because it's, it's divisible by. You're the math guy, Rhett.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I don't know. I'll trust you on that. W.H.L. Final, we talked about it. Johnny was in there. Johnny was there. He made the team. Rhett, your curse lives on. Last night, Gavin McKenna
Starting point is 00:57:29 failed to register a point the first time in 55 games. Sorry, Gab. 190 days. You had 137 points over that span. 40 of them goals. What a bust. Cam Robbins. I don't know why I feel responsible, but I...
Starting point is 00:57:47 I bet she gets back on the score sheet in Spokane because you're not going to Spoke, are you? Well, as long as his hip's okay and that bus ride doesn't get him down. He's probably used to the bus ride. I'm not sure about the HIF. Here's your schedule for the finals. It is a two through two, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, a lot of hockey, not a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:58:09 God, that's a lot. Sunday, Monday, if necessary, in the hat, rat. Who. Sunday, Monday. You going back? Oh, can't wait. Gavin's pumped. You can't wait to see it.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Yeah, he'll be excited to have me there. And if those games, if necessary, happen, we'll have Cammy on next Monday. She's been covering this series for the WHL doing a great job there. Brett, did you stay in that hotel with all the water slides? No, I stayed in a hotel with a water slide, but not the one you're thinking of it. That's a great hotel. Really, eh? Oh, yeah, just like back in the day with the boys, hockey trips.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I was going to sleep at my truck, but then I was like, yeah. What was the appeal of sleeping in the truck? Is it so comfy or? Cheap. Yeah, okay. I had my sleep mask. I was fine. My nephew just got back from a spring hockey thing in Lethbridge.
Starting point is 00:59:08 He said they had an Australia, Hawaii themed hotel. Couldn't believe it. Lovely. I could say this, leaving medicine hat this morning, I should have videoed it. The tumbleweeds blowing down the street was epic. It was really something to see. Yeah, like there would be people in their lives that have never seen anything like it.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Never seen a tumbleweed even, never mind plural. Tumbleweeds. Oh, exciting stuff. What a day. What a time to be alive. Let's get some NFL news. We got an opener. Super Bowl champs usually open up Thursday, right?
Starting point is 00:59:48 There it is. Thursday, September 4, season opener, and they get the stinking cowboys. Jack, who we cheering for here? Your state rivals or neither? Pickings. For neither?
Starting point is 01:00:00 You're cheering for a cancellation. Yes. Okay. It's here for tie. Now it's football. Let's have some good football. Everyone get excited. Get off the Steelers. You're anyway, Jack. So it doesn't matter. That's true. Where is this game? Gabon's Eagles.
Starting point is 01:00:16 I imagine it'd be Philly. Yeah. Doesn't say though. It was a good point. Remember who the worst team in baseball was last year? White Sox. They were historically bad. They were like one of the worst teams in like 100 years. Well, hang on.
Starting point is 01:00:31 24 white socks. Hold my beer. That's what the 2025 Rockies are saying. Six and 33. Ooh. They're on pace for like less than 30 wins here. Ooh. They already have allowed 134 more runs than they've scored. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Oh. ERA is near six. And basically war is wins above replacement. So if you just went and got the best player in AAA, you'd be a zero. Their team is minus 1.4. poof well lofty
Starting point is 01:01:06 lofty goals you want to make the history books you got to commit yeah we should be a mandatory Rockies lose bet for bet 365 every day we'll see
Starting point is 01:01:17 we start that see how that goes that ride calves were in action on the weekend they were in Halifax facing the wanderers
Starting point is 01:01:25 not an easy place to play but look at the score here, Rhett 0. Bang, Ali Mousy. Second of the game, that's a brace. That's what the kids call it.
Starting point is 01:01:39 So what did you're not so loud now, fans? I thought I heard you cheer with it. Oh, 3-0, 3 points, a pair for Ali Moussey, and the cabs, nice little run here, back-to-back wins. Good work, fellas. Yeah, the coach wasn't too happy one. Next action, they're back at home, right? Saturday 3.30.
Starting point is 01:01:59 House of weather. Let's go. It could be a little wet, but it's long weekend footy. Come on, let's go. They got a long weekend. It'll definitely be wet because that is a rule around here. I was telling that to Jack. You could set your watch to bad weather every May long ever.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Oh, yeah. Make big plans. Make big plans. Usually drive back from Montana and it's been snowing like. Yeah. Multiple times. And probably wonderful in Montana. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yeah. You're like, oh yeah, we're coming back. Oh, geez. What happened here? Shoot, guys. That's a long weekend. That's tough. Calgary Surge.
Starting point is 01:02:30 They're season underway. Yeah, the Hoopers and the Dimer's threat. They were up in the cultural capital. You're damn right. Jamir Nelson Jr. Big comeback. He was part of it. Cavs win.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I think it was a late comeback. They did the target score we told you about. Big W over Edmonton. Jamir's new to the team was asked about the rivalry between Calgary and Edmonton. It's good stuff here. And talk to me about that winning basket in Target time. What were you thinking?
Starting point is 01:02:58 Talk us through it. I didn't know I was going to get that open. I got full speed, so there was no reason for me to stop. Absolutely. That is your first taste of the end. I love it. I love it. They got to come back to it, right?
Starting point is 01:03:15 Yes, yeah. Come back to our career. I love it. Excellent. Thank you so much, Jim. I appreciate it. You said I love it like six times. This is one of our boys.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Anyone that gets into Calgary, the robberies, we got. We got their back. Next action for them, they got a bunch on the road to start. red for they come home it's niagara and then uh winnipeg the bears sea bears yeah good swimmers i'm told they're gonna be able to swim agra river needs and seeles you got to be able to swim agra is that the sundown yeah okay i was just gonna say maybe we're a road trip
Starting point is 01:03:54 close to buffalo could maybe rob rail come up visit us whatever works Uh, remember the boss? We told you about the, the, the, the bear that sired all the, Oh, not, not Springsteen? No, different, this one's a little scary. Oh, this boss. I don't know if this is the boss or not, but someone in Bamp sent this. You got to remain calm and don't run.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Oh, really? If the pepper's afraid, they're ready. That's a unit. Oh. That's where the video ends. I don't know if he made it on it. Jack, is he alive? Oh.
Starting point is 01:04:33 I'm totally just running. You're cooked if you're. I know, but I don't know how you could just. They're kind of playful things. So if you start running, they think it's a game of chase. That's my knowledge of the situation.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Ret, what do you know about bears? Stay the other way. You see pups run the other way. If you see the pups, you don't want to see mom. That's all you need to. Oh, you see the pups.
Starting point is 01:04:57 You're who. Cubs, yeah. I think is massive. a wreck as a snake ever bitching the balls not yet okay well better luck than this guy tough go here that up oh oh how does a snake get up here shorts there that's not a deal we had a better weekend than that guy that's guaranteed we had a better weekend than that guy that's guaranteed all of us here had a better weekend.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Oh. Why are you showing this? Yeah, not good. Just a reminder. A little perspective. Life's good, right? We got it easy here. Yeah. Yeah. Too bad Dean wasn't here for that. I'm sure he would have loved that one. Oh, well, we can send it to him.
Starting point is 01:05:57 That's... Snoop Dogg's a very influential guy. You know that, right? I didn't realize he was in on picking the next Pope. Not great. Snoop a loop. Now, what would you prefer? Like a self-driving car or like drunken 20-year-olds, like Jack's buddies on a golf cart?
Starting point is 01:06:20 Like what's more dangerous? Jacks buddies. I think so. Luckily we have videos of both, right? So here we go. Oh, shit. Are you guys okay? Are you guys okay?
Starting point is 01:06:37 No, I'm not okay. You just... How in the world? fellas, have we driven before? And I love how he just bails. Yeah, the guy driving. Yeah, I'm out here. You guys are crashing.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Hey, are you okay? I'm really worried about your health. Are you okay? It's weird. I jumped out of there and all of a sudden it just wet this weird. Yeah, your hand came up the wheel. Yeah. Are you okay?
Starting point is 01:07:10 I do think robots could drive better than that. You guys should have jumped out. All right. Let's go to LA where someone's having a Monday. Okay, why is this happening to me on a Monday? I'm in a Waymo car. Connected to Rider support. This car may be recorded for quality assurance.
Starting point is 01:07:28 This car is just going in circles. Either Mike, this is a scab. I'm calling from Waymo support. I'm just calling because I receive a notification at your car might be experiencing some routing issue. Please bear with me while I am. Yeah, I got a flight to catch. Why is this thing going in a circle? I'm getting dizzy.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Look at what it's doing. I understand. I'm really, really sorry, Mike. We're currently working with the situation of the vehicle. Is it circling around a parking lot, right? It's circling around a parking lot. I got my seatbelt on. I can't get out the car.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Has this been hacked? What's going on? I feel like I'm in the movies. Is somebody playing a joke on me? And I got a flight to cats. I understand, Megan, I'm really sorry for this. We're working with this, but big out of chance, do you have an access to your Waymo app right now?
Starting point is 01:08:15 Yeah. I'm going to be pulling the car over while we, are trying to assist a car oh hold on just a second oh my goodness I just better not be late for the flight you guys are gonna take care of the flight that part really so sorry yeah because this is crazy this is crazier I apologize if you have your app pulled up I need you to tap you guys too little over a corner of your app can't you just do it you should be able to handle it take over the car you don't need my phone I don't have an option to control the car oh my gosh
Starting point is 01:08:49 A lot of hot laps there. What a world we live in. Yeah. Are you going to go on the Waymo app or are you just going to crawl up to the front seat there? I wonder what happens you tug on that wheel. Yeah. Well, you can't turn if I'm. Mm.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I don't, yeah, maybe. I don't know. I've ridden in one of those. Have you? Yeah, we went down for the nation vacation to, Arizona to watch the coyotes in the mallet arena. I had that nasty new haircut.
Starting point is 01:09:26 And like bombed at like 2 a.m. looking for a slice of pizza. I decided to take one. I wasn't going to do it sober. Because this. That's what I didn't want. I don't think I trust these things at all. Why? Red told us to trust AI. Why? Your drug and golf card buddies. Come on.
Starting point is 01:09:42 I got to get the flying one. It won't go. Yeah, the flying waymo. Let's go. That's your Pender part on a Monday for our good pals at Village Honda in the Northwest Automol online at VillageHonda.com. New in-stock inventory on the ground. Start your automotive adventures at Village Honda where a new vehicle pricing is MSRP. It's your dealership for life.
Starting point is 01:10:04 For la. Okay. A couple things to do. You got our pets. And it is the playoffs. So I do want you to take note the Origin Brewing playoff bundle. You've been saying for a year. Oh, look at this.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Well-dressed, Rhett. Full screen. I'm Jack. Let's go. Go on full screen. Yeah, show us your, there you are. Great stuff. Good looking shirts. Oh, yeah. How many times people moaning about, what are you guys going to do? Some merchandise? Well, here's some merchandise. Origin Barnburner Co-Lab.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Here's the thing, though, it's not just the shirt. It's also a four-pack of the Afterburner Pale Ale. It's also a four-pack of the Barnburner blonde. All that. Under 50 bucks? You're crazy. It's true. Go to the website, Origin Brewing.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Make you go to the store, Jack. I believe you can place the orders right on the store. While supplies last, it is the Barnburner playoff bundle, $45. What a deal. Pick your shirt size. Get your multiple four packs of delicious origin beer. Origin brewing.com. dot CA is the website.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Then you click on store at the top. Is that it? Shop, that's what sort of this. Click on shop. Bang. Easy. Also, if you haven't, make sure you swing by their Calgary location.
Starting point is 01:11:33 It is the OC, origin Calgary. The brand continues to grow. On top of the malting and brink facility in and the tap room in Strathmore, they're now in the northeast. It's never been easier to sit down for a pint of origin
Starting point is 01:11:47 or take home cans, growlers, even kegs for yourself. 943, 28th Street, Northeast. Still going strong in Strathmore as well. Do check the hours. It's kind of a Friday to Sunday shop up there. Yeah. Red's got the pack.
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Starting point is 01:12:41 Am I crazy, Rhett, or is one series yelling overs and one series yelling unders? It does, uh, well, It does scream that, but it's the playoffs. You never know. There's no guarantee. I did juice the line on the Oilers game. Six and a half the line.
Starting point is 01:12:57 I juiced it to get the nice plus 155. I like that. I check. The Oilers have had six or fewer twice in nine games. Meanwhile, Carolina, under six, six of eight times. Anyway, we'll see if those trends continue. If you want to bet on the Blue Jays today,
Starting point is 01:13:22 that's one thing you can't do on Bet365. They're off, but you can wager on tomorrow's game. It swept the Seattle's. So they're not the worst team in the... No, they're not as bad as Colorado. In fact, I think it gets them back to 500, which is better than 6 and 33.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Yuck. What's the day hold for you, sir? What are you got? I don't know. It's kind of that in-between. We need lots of rain, so I can't complain about the rain. Rain, go ahead. If you're going to be gray, rain away.
Starting point is 01:13:57 It helps you. So to Strathmore, let's hope they're getting this rain. They're always talking about soil moisture. Let's go. Let's go. I got a lot of feedback on how dry it was for the farmers and medicine hats. Right. Here's praying.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Let's get that rain down to the hat. Okay. We'll be back tomorrow. It sounds like we'll have Jay Rose Hill. Do we have any update on the, the the galute just the one picture we can show it again it's not we do have some super chats by the way okay good let's let's let's get we had any feedback like he's on some weirdo trip he is on some weirdo trip it really i'm worried about him it's uh it's not traditional
Starting point is 01:14:39 probably in hog heaven and for everyone else that would never even consider doing what he's doing it would be just like why have what i'm no i'll be home this is dumb how's the roadie going? He sent that one pitcher. And I said, oof, that's a lot of oilers. He said, yeah, they love the oilers here. That's all we've said.
Starting point is 01:15:01 You think he's getting like banged up and makes him with people or. No, he hates people. I think he's ordering in and not. He tried to go out and look, look at the pitcher. I mean, he got stuck in Oilersland. And we all get no feedback on it.
Starting point is 01:15:18 It's not like he's going to tell us how it went or what he got into. No. To do it. Yeah. Anyway, I'll be back later in the week, maybe. We think. Super chats. Let's go. Super chats. Proceeds go to the youth centers of Calgary, a place where kids are welcome and accepted as they are. A place where they can get a break from the chronic stress that is the reality of many of their lives. And they can flourish, have fun, make connections at the youth centers of Calgary.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Let's get to it. Jack. Ken, five bucks. really want to know how Rhett felt hearing his son's name being called in the draft this weekend. Well, you didn't hear it live because we were doing a show. I think it was Thursday. Do they call out your name in this? Watching a live stream, I guess. I mean, someone has to say, you got to be a proud dad. Oh, happy for, very happy for him.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Excited. Yes, great. Lovely Avatar, Ken, as well. How did Ken earn a wrench? Or did you just self-enoint wrench? I think he's self. Yeah, that's a self-enoint. wrench ace here
Starting point is 01:16:25 ace soft gloss uh next uh handsome dan look at this fellas the birds are chirping the sun is sunning and the fish are biting god you're very similar one win for charity can do for your disposition go vgk let's get another 150 for the kids for the kids right i can't just screw them or the kids now if you if you're just joining us are not familiar handsome dan was putting up money for every flames win this year and even more money for every dust and
Starting point is 01:16:57 wolf victory in the season and then each round of the playoffs he's randomly selected a team to keep donating to the kids round one just happened to be l a second round apparently it's vegas good on you dan go Vegas i guess dan for the kids for the kids and thanks for your contributions sun suns sunning he must not be in calgary son's not sunny here jack is it oh maybe it feels like it's got to be on the island it's got the fish biting yeah It's not always sunny here. Dean always has a warm and friendly disposition. So, I mean, set your watch to it.
Starting point is 01:17:35 It's just your take on life. That's all. Any other super's Jacko? No, that's all. All right. I'm just two. I'm hungry. I'm hungry.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Let's go. We'll be out of here. We'll be back tomorrow. Enjoy the game tonight. Washington, Carolina, 5 p.m. Vegas, Edmonton at 7.30. See you, buddy.

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