Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Quinn Hughes Trade Breakdown: Extension Question + Vancouver’s Return 🔥 | BB Clips
Episode Date: December 15, 2025Boomer, Pinder & Rhett break down the full Quinn Hughes trade that went down Friday night, analyzing Vancouver’s return and what this deal means for both franchises. The guys discuss whether the... Minnesota Wild can lock up Hughes long term, react to him scoring a goal in his first game with his new team, and dive into how this blockbuster could reshape the future for Vancouver and Minnesota moving forward.VIDEO LINK: https://youtu.be/-W4DeF-scs4#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #nhlpicks #stanleycup #stanleycupfinal #vancouver #vancouvercanucks CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️BARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Let's get to the big news of the weekend.
Quinn Hughes is now a member of the Minnesota Wild,
a monster blockbuster.
The Wild get the best non-Kale McCarer defensemen on the planet,
in my opinion, with this year and next year remaining on his contract.
He joins a club that's already got Karel Kaprizov in his prime.
Brock Faber emerging as a star,
an excellent goal-tending tandem in the wall from St. Paul and Gustafson.
they also have got, you know, Zuccarello
still producing, Eric Sinek,
Fulino, this is a good team boys.
And they're in a division that's got the stars and the abs.
You were probably the two best teams in the West right now.
Minnesota making a statement,
chips pushed in.
How did they get them?
Well, center Marco Rossi, who's not huge,
but absolutely is a scoring center.
He goes to Vancouver.
They have huge center depth issues after trading,
you know, Horvett Miller and Lee's Pedersen being hurt,
but looking like he'll return this week.
Zib Boyum, who was selected after Zane Peract
and is having an
excellent start to his NHL career.
And Liam Ogren, a 21-year-old,
who was about a point per game last year in the American League,
and is absolutely an NHLer now.
They get three roster players today and the Wilds first.
This is Blockbuster Boys.
That Ogren, because again, I was doing the old Warma's,
he was the pick that came along with Faber in the Fiality.
What a trade that was.
Goodness.
Not too shabby.
And that was when they were paying Souter and Parize,
like $50 million a year to not play hockey.
they didn't want to move Fial.
They're like, we just can't afford this guy.
We've got to turn him into some futures.
And then when these biopane is done, we'll have some kids.
What a deal.
He's probably pumped because he couldn't get in.
Yeah.
So what, like, what are your, because I can see both sides.
I like it for both teams.
If they sign Hughes, obviously it's one thing.
If they play him for it and then he leaves a free agency, that's another thing.
Yeah.
It's interesting that they have, like, Marco Rossi's been talked about as available for a long
time. I don't know what that means. The bridge in the summer that didn't sound long term.
Right. It could mean that he's not a good. They feel he's not going to be a number one or a number two center. I don't know, but he's been available. Obviously, Boyham has had a great start to the year and you have to give up something to get. Yeah. I agree with you. I think. A hall of fame defense. Like Hughes is super. Somehow he's underappreciated for a guy that leads the league and D scoring half the time.
So late starts, Steve. Norris trophies and all this. Um,
It's a massive, massive deal.
It's a, yeah, like to try to think of a deal this big that went down, like, it's bigger than
random, I think it is.
I think it's more similar to the Kachuk because everyone knew Chuck wanted out of here and
you felt like Trilling wasn't going to get anything.
And then you end up getting this huge package.
Obviously, it was a four-piece deal as well to Calgary.
Cole Schwint being the minor one.
The other one's all major.
They both include a first rounder, roster players to help the team trading the star.
and I get it.
Minnesota's deep.
They've been doing really well in the draft
the last five years.
They've been waiting and waiting and waiting for that
campaign to be done with the buyouts.
And chips are in in a division
that might have the three best teams in the West
if he helps them as much as they think you will.
I agree with you.
Chips are in,
but I think it's just a savvy move by Gellett,
Garrett, too,
where it's like, if this case is available,
and these are pieces,
because I think they probably like all those pieces.
Yes.
You should like all the pieces you gave up.
But he's like, well,
we need a difference maker.
instead of these pieces.
I wonder would they maybe see,
you've got to give up something.
Yeah.
Like obviously it's not like they were unhappy with Boym.
They see Boyman and Faber as maybe similar players.
I don't know.
I kind of think back, remember when it was Burns and Carlson,
it's like, well, they're both kind of the same.
More isn't always more.
You have to give up some studs to get one of the best in the world.
And interestingly, like, I don't know that Vancouver's going to be worse this year because
of the deal.
like Ogrin helps them.
He's going to play there.
He was sort of in and out in Minnesota a bit this year.
Absolutely.
You needed someone that could eat minutes if you're going to move Quinn Hughes.
And William looks capable of that already very early in his career.
This is his first full season.
Yes.
Like incredible.
To a career.
Second full season, excuse me.
Yeah.
Because he came in and started in the spring after his son.
That doesn't.
If you have the hand on top of that, Marco Rossi, real quick.
Second line center last year in the regular season for the while puts up like 60 points.
You're like, wow.
What a season.
they play them as a fourth line center in the playoffs
and then bridge them and don't sign them long term
and you're like, okay, interesting.
All of a sudden there was like,
what about offer sheets?
Is this guy a trade target?
It just felt like they had the chance to marry him
long term last summer.
They didn't do it.
And Vancouver, Philippeal hurt.
They trade J.T. Miller.
Horvats been gone for a bit.
Pedersen hurt.
David Camp was their number one center a couple days ago.
They need centers bad.
So I think both teams are better today.
Yeah, I think you're sad if you're a Canucks fan.
He's your guy.
He's one of the best players that's ever worn a Canucks jersey.
But you cannot look at the trade and say,
Didn't get enough.
You have to make that.
I think you can be sad that you've lost a Hall of Fame defenseman,
but you should not be sad about the fact that they have accepted where they are
and are trying to build for the future.
So we all kind of felt like Hughes was going to leave Vancouver.
Yeah.
That he was destined for New Jersey.
At some point it feels that.
What do you, do you feel the same way that New Jersey is the eventual landing spot regardless?
Or does this change it now?
It drops the percentages for me.
Like he did a nine minute press availability.
I think it was yesterday or the day before.
And, you know, the way he talks about his first four hours there, he's absolutely saying.
It's what you're going to say.
No, it is.
But when you watch the full nine, like this isn't a guy going up and spinning.
Like he has a lot of really honest answers.
Yeah.
And it actually leads you to believe that this decision was probably pretty much made in the
They made a real run to like, are we able, going to be able to sign you?
Because if we aren't, we need to know.
And then the bad start is the final nail on the coffee.
He was already leaning that way.
And then it was like in the last two weeks, he said, yeah, like, had the chat with
Jim Rutherford.
Yeah, I don't know what the deal was coming.
And then he goes to New York with the team.
Let's hear the clip.
We got a clip from Quinn first.
Quinn first.
Yeah.
Well, open minded, Quinn will you be just to sing if you could see yourself here beyond
your current contract?
I mean, extremely open minded.
They got an amazing core.
Just, you know, obviously it's where I've only been here four hours.
We're getting to know some of the guys and, you know, how energetic and positive guys are.
And then Minnesota being so close to Michigan and just the state of hockey and the passion here.
Just seeing how the fans reacted to me as well in warm-ups.
And then obviously I got all the time for Billy for, you know, quote-unquote, you know, sacking up and making the deal.
like he did and just, you know, how he valued me.
And, you know, there are other teams that probably could have thrown in, you know,
certain packages like that too.
But at the end of the day, they didn't, you know, they didn't want to do that
or they didn't want to trade two or three assets from their team like Billy did.
And so I'll remember that.
And that means a lot to me that Billy did that.
Arriving here last night, what's your...
There was a few, before we react to that, they go and pick them up from New York.
I think Garron flew out.
they forgot to put his bag on the plane.
Need that.
They left with him, left the gear out east.
He had a pal flight in the next morning.
He hardly knows the guys, scores a goal in his debut.
The place is going nuts, warm-ups, in-game, all that.
And again, you're going to say the right things,
but when you listen to Quinn Hughes talk,
it doesn't feel like he's come right out of agent PR training.
No, for sure.
And he also had, because I wanted to see what the comment there was,
He talked about how last week that game in Vancouver
kind of felt like he knew that was going to be his last game as a Knoch.
That he, it's kind of like, yeah, this has been in the works, obviously, for a long time.
But for him to kind of detail how I had the last meal with the team,
I knew that was going to be it.
And I knew that was my last game.
They did a pretty good job of keeping this under wraps.
He even said he went to dinner with his brothers because they're playing New York,
the Jersey's right there.
they knew before it broke.
It was a night before the deal happened.
Yeah, and so we'll see.
I mentioned this in the, we did a little YouTube breakdown for four minutes on Friday night.
The CBA has changed, but they have lagged a few things.
So we know in the new CBA max term for a team keeping their players now seven years, not eight.
That kicks in September 15th of next year, not July 1.
The agents of players fought hard to keep another three months of,
that right so that Minnesota will be able to offer eight years. And if he plays rates of free agency,
the longest term you can sign to go to a new place is only six years. And if you look at him
in a Caprizov type salary, which would be 17 and a half million and the ability to signing bonus,
which has been neutered pretty effectively in the new CBA, you can offer probably in present day
value of money an extra 30 or 40 million for him to stay in Minnesota at like a same AAV. That's wild.
No pun intended. No, no, it's like that's a lot of money.
One year, because that's what was eight years versus seven, even that was.
It's significant what it's a real advantage.
It felt like to a lot of the teams.
And now it's two for this three month window because they're lagging the eight year thing.
And by the time he's of you, it's only six to a new team.
If he likes it there, that's what it all is going to.
That's what it's going to be.
It's 100% that.
And I've never heard anyone not.
Yeah, people like, especially, they're actually a really exciting team now.
I don't think it's a destination for guys to get to, but I've never heard anyone play
their go, this is miserable. I hate it here.
No, it's a hockey market.
And as he noted, which I hadn't thought about, close to home.
Like, it's probably as closer, closer than New Jersey is.
I do kind of wonder if some of that, if the wild are going to be a competitive team and if the experience is a good one, if the whole play with your brothers thing.
Like, we're still brothers.
We'll spend a lot of time together.
Don't play hockey forever.
And we're all summer.
And if I'm Bill Garon, I would say to Quinn.
get all this money
and the moment you want to get traded
will move you.
You want to play with your brothers.
They'll trade you in four years.
That's fine.
Yeah.
But like get this deal
and you let us know when you're like,
here's the real truth of superstars.
If they ask for a trade,
do they ever like, no, sorry,
you're staying.
I know.
And especially he because everyone wants them.
The elite guys?
Superstars.
Yeah.
You can get.
That's what I said with no trades and that.
Especially with McDavid.
It's like you, if you do not, if you decide today's your lat, look at Patrick Wah, I'm done.
Trade me.
Yeah.
You can get traded.
Yeah.
You'll get whatever you want when you're at that level.
And he is at that level.
And so he doesn't have to say, I'm committed to the wild for the rest of my prime.
Still sign that deal and say, you know what, Bill?
Like we had a good five year run.
I'm out of here.
Okay.
Thanks for your service.
We're going to get a haul back and reload.
And like, we'll move on because we're just kind of circling.
And if you're Vancouver, it was a hell of a draft pick.
He was your best player for a lot of years,
and now it brings you all this moving forward.
Quinn Hughes did a lot for that franchise.
They had a lot of similarities to what happened here.
Well, maybe it wasn't the same as what happened here,
but it felt like this playoff.
The Knotes team was going to start close,
and then it fractured and broke up.
Fractured and Philb.
Do you want to play this Garen clip?
Sure.
I love Bill.
Yeah, you know what?
Show the goal, because he kind of talks about that.
Watch the crowd.
Yeah, big,
you're in warm up too.
Standing ovation and stood the whole time in warm up
before the game. And this is
what are we in the third period here? It didn't take long
in the third period.
We lose a lot of minutes
and the guys can match and those are guys that are playing.
Hughes in. He's gone.
Welcome to Minnesota.
He finds a good area of the ice gets himself
into a good shooting area. I mean, it's a great goal.
but it's good theater
guy stores in the first game
crowd goes crazy
and then on top of that
you see William in Vancouver with an assist
and then the winner I believe
in their victory so early returns
both GMs probably saying
you know we're going to be measured
in a decade on this thing but we like what we got
I like that Hughes
referred to Garin
sacking up
yeah I did like that
you know he kind of sacked up and
paid the big
price. Like a good scrotum reference
in post games. Now did you see the Garon
from the weekend about, because at some point
you're going back and forth and then
they reach out, so you know what, Bill?
I think we might have a deal.
It's like, oh my, oh my God, like what?
I feel like Billy Garon is like our
spear down. He's one of us.
Yeah, he's a beauty. He's one of us.
You agreed to the deals yesterday.
And like, where were you when you get the call from, Jim?
Like, hey, like, we'll just do this or
Want the honest truth?
I was making meatballs for our Christmas Eve dinner.
And Jim called.
So I had to take my gloves, my latex gloves off.
So I was rolling meatballs.
And he told me we have a deal.
And there was a fist pump involved.
That's awesome.
I'm a Billy Garan guy.
I always thought, you know, I can get down with Billy Garan.
I got Billy Garrens.
Yeah.
All-Star season.
He was the MVP at the All-Star King.
And he's got a relationship with Jim Ruther.
Jim brought him into Pittsburgh, I believe, at the end of his career.
And those are two guys that are saying, look, like, both teams can win a trade.
Billy Garon is also, what is it?
Because it was always, it was that trivia question.
Who's the one guy who scored 20 goals with everywhere?
Seven or eight teams.
It was Ray Shepherd.
And you could always stump guys.
But then I think Billy Garon took over
Because it was New Jersey
Edmonton
Like everywhere basically that he went
He managed to top 20 goals
And he's and he's making meatballs
Great hands
One of us
Now latex gloves, that's pro
Yeah, you know
If you're GM you had answer your phone
You'd say I'll just wash your hands
But if I'm taking calls
I better have a hand grip
I'm trying to do it more I never do though
I have them
I have them
Big hands.
The thing is, Jack, when you're making
meatballs, you want to have,
sometimes you put pork or whatever, you want to have that
fat incorporating your meatball
with your hands. You don't want to be, don't hold them
for too long. Your hands are warm.
You want to get mucky meatballs.
Roll it, get it done. Put it down.
I wonder if gloves would help in that.
I only do pork.
Yeah.
Wow, he did score a lot, a lot of places.
Do you score it a lot and a lot
places, right?
Islanders too.
Holy. Because I think near the end,
he now owns that record
of most
NHL teams
scoring 20 goals.
He's a fourth liner, Dean.
Huh?
He started with Jersey.
It was him in Holick and Randy
McKay? 20 plus in Jersey,
20 plus with the oil, 20 plus with Boston,
20 plus with Dallas, 20 plus with
St. Louis, 20 plus with the islanders,
20 plus with Pittsburgh.
17s, 20 goals.
So that either ties or passes Ray Shepard is I read.
It'll pass, Ray, because Ray didn't play in that many teams.
There's only original six back then, eh?
I'm just kidding.
I'll look up, Ray.
Get your job done.
Did you play with Ray Shepard?
Bob Sins?
Both.
Both?
How long has he been the GM now?
I think that's probably five or six years because they had that awkward
Fletcher
Chuck
God,
Cliff's kid
You know what
And talking about
Sacking up
Makes this trade
Gives Caprizo the money
Bought out those two contracts
That's drafted really well
Those are some
Those are major
And you've got to have the backing of ownership
Obviously
Especially with the buying out of contracts
Oh yeah
But even still you're paying a lot of money
For guys now to not play
but it does give you some financial flexibility in a little bit.
You then use that to spend a lot more money to get Caprize off.
And now you've got this deal done.
He'll hang him out there.
I got a second guy.
You're right, Dean.
I forgot that he was in Carolina.
How many teams?
Buffalo, New York Rangers, Detroit Red Wings, Florida Panthers, Carolina.
Five.
Impressive.
With 20 or more?
I thought it was more than that.
Buffalo.
New York, Detroit.
Oh, San Jose?
Yes.
Shocks.
That's six.
Six.
