Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Revisiting The Dion Phaneuf Era In Calgary… What Went WRONG?? 👀 | BB Clips
Episode Date: February 10, 2026Boomer, Pinder & Rhett take a trip down memory lane to revisit the blockbuster trade that sent Dion Phaneuf from the Toronto Maple Leafs to the Ottawa Senators 10 years ago today, breaking down wh...at the deal meant at the time and how it shaped Phaneuf’s NHL career, while also reflecting on the earlier trade that moved him from the Calgary Flames to Toronto and whether Calgary gave up on him too soon. The guys dive into Phaneuf’s evolution as a defenseman, his impact as a captain, and Rhett’s take that Dion should have been part of the Flames’ 2004 Stanley Cup run — and how his presence might have changed everything for that roster.Youtube Link: https://youtu.be/uDA6OZ8VQMs#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #nhlpicks #stanleycup #calgaryflames #calgary CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️BARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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10 years ago today.
Oh, anniversary.
The Leaves traded Dionne Funuff to the Ottawa Senators.
And then from there he went to L.A., right?
Yeah.
Is that it?
Darrell.
Is that there?
I don't think Darrell was there.
Might be the end of Darrell.
Dionne Funnuff, Matt Fratt, and Casey Bailey,
Ryan Rupert, Cody Donahey to the senators for Jared Cowan, Colin Greening,
Milan, Mahalach, Tobias Lindberg, and a second.
There are a lot of guys that were supposed to be something that didn't turn out to be much in that, too.
Kids, that's for you to learn.
There's a lot of names out there,
and the names sometimes don't always be.
Oh, look up. Matt Fratton, all right?
You're looking at Basi?
Because I said he was going to...
No, I'm looking at Fennon.
But you were looking at Bussie.
That's from last week, yeah.
I know, that's what I'm saying.
You think you're in front of the...
I was talking about Bussie for about a month or two.
When you guys over and...
Slender out of the NHL.
What are you doing?
This is the Pinder Report.
Oh, yeah.
He was a senator
for two and a half seasons
and then went to LA for two seasons
well I guess season and a half but yours for LA
17 18 1819 and I had brought up
in the pre-show
you get
for show
was it 49 million was that seven times seven
and that it's
math checks out
when you have played
to a certain level a certain style
and it's physical and hard and punishing
And just because you're the one laying out the hits doesn't mean you're not rocking a toll on yourself.
It just felt like, you know what?
I got, I got enough money.
It's hard.
Go on 100 miles an hour and hitting and shooting and my hip.
I'm just not sure.
I'm not sure that's for me anymore.
The interesting thing about this anniversary is I don't know that it evokes any motion in either market because everyone was just cooked and you're removing problems around at
point. Yeah. Like the anniversary of the
fun of enough trade from Calgary to Toronto is
what the hell's going on? How did this happen?
Again, a lot of names. What the hell is Daryl thinking? How could you
not get more? Other GMs in here. It's like, oh my gosh, we can talk
forever about that. This one, you're like, yeah, everyone was done with everyone.
Should we give Daryl shit about that one? Because that was, I think he's got trade.
Yeah. Oh, my heavens. Yeah. Daryl, the GM is not going to the
Hall of Fame. Daryl, the coach is absolutely going to the Hall of Fame. Hey, we're,
we're very accountable. We say dumb things. We do dumb stuff all the time. We own
that I think Daryl's got a own that one.
Oh, I think if you're at the,
the pub with Big Dean,
and her I goreye Coke going.
Yeah, I might have jumped the gun.
You know what, though?
He is a stubborn son of a gun, though.
Stubbered cuss?
Because at the time,
I mean, it's a loser's mantra.
Oh, well, if I would have known,
I would have done something.
That's what the story.
I can't believe they did this Toronto deal.
Funuff wasn't available,
because he was talking about,
bang, bang, bang,
I had no idea.
You have to think that if there was a
bidding war. Yeah, some kind of
open season. You would do better than that. You would do better than
that. Yeah. Ian White and
Freddie Schustrom.
Jamal, mayor.
What, Hagman? Yeah. Goosh.
Yeah. I still don't know why he traded him at all.
It doesn't really ever seem to pass the smell test, no matter which way
you look at it or whose shoes you put yourself in.
It's just,
it makes sense for Toronto to make that deal.
It's just like politics.
These bastards are getting kickbacks behind the scenes.
They're always getting kickbacks.
They're still getting millions from Toronto right now.
So what was your, I'm joking.
What was your,
you're near the end of it there of your career?
I was gone.
Wasn't I?
But I mean, you've,
I was shocked.
You've accepted them and for that.
Yeah.
I'm just like everyone else,
it's like, that's what you're after?
But when he came in, I guess is what...
Oh, he was a stud.
God, he was good.
I've said it.
We win the Stanley Cup if Darrell's not so fucking stubborn about signing him in the year before.
When we go to Tampa Bay and we don't have a defenseman without a broken ankle.
For people that don't know, it's worth digging into that.
He was, he had been drafted first round.
Yep.
And would have been available to play for the flames but needed a contract.
Yeah, and they wouldn't give him the money.
His entry level deal.
And of course, at that time, you would have wanted to burn the first year.
Bonuses.
Blah, blah, blah.
You wanted to max out.
And, okay.
But goodness.
But goodness.
But goodness gracious.
I wonder if that came.
And I don't have any knowledge, but it's almost to the point of, was Darrell barking up the food chain,
trying to get it done?
Or was Darrell being the stubborn bastard?
I don't know, but it made no sense.
We're in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
Brennan Evans.
Brennan Evans is playing.
And Dionne Finoff would have been a man.
We win the cup because he would have, he was so talented and mean and hard-nosed.
He would have crushed guys.
Yes.
Crushed them because there was no lack of confidence.
Yeah.
He wasn't dipping his toe.
Yeah.
Granted, the year after was the lockout.
So we're talking a year and a bit down the road.
He had 20 goals.
as a rookie.
Defenseman.
So even if that's a player who's going to help you.
Oh,
even if he's just a six and he hits guys.
To your point.
Way more than they had.
He had me playing 22 minutes a night.
No.
No, no, no.
No.
So was Funnuff stubborn?
Was Darrell stubborn?
I do wonder about the up the food chain because the thing of it is more than, it was
obvious.
This was a Darrell guy.
Oh, the day he drafted on their arm and arm and smiling.
If he was prepared to pay anybody, it would have been this guy because he needed him and it's his guy.
Right, but he also traded him for pennies of dollars.
But that's down the, right?
But at that point in time, you're in the-
Made no sense how he didn't sign and play.
Made no sense.
You know, Daryl, the GM, there's a lot of things he doesn't give a shit about.
I can't imagine fiscal responsibility when you're in the Stanley Cup playoffs and you need bodies would be at the front.
I don't give a, pay this fucking guy, whatever.
We could win a cup.
here.
Yeah.
With,
kind of my thought on
how Daryl would be thinking.
So I do wonder if it's,
well,
we can't let the rookies come in
and dictate terms and all.
I don't know.
But it's,
it's, yeah.
Oh, let's get Murray on the show
and he'll tell us.
Hey, Murr.
Without a doubt,
with no question in my mind,
he plays,
we win.
I agree.
You were so depleted in the men.
So,
depleted.
Sorry,
Cami.
Comey.
It's fine.
Hmm.
was there what,
Lidman,
Regear?
Well, Tony could have
to play because he had
concussions and these
shouldn't have been out there.
Reggie had a broken ankle
and shouldn't have been out there.
I'm playing way too much.
Goce blew his knee out of game three.
Yeah.
It's the two-layer effect there.
It's the guys you were missing,
but the guys you had
were just playing way too much.
You had too many games.
Yeah.
And travel and everything.
Yeah.
If only,
just,
can you come in and just not get scored on
for 18 a night?
we might win.
Well, and he could rip the puck.
Oh, yeah.
And what we didn't have was offensive defensemen.
Right.
Like even on the power play, if even,
they,
Tampa Bay blocked so many shots,
but he could shoot it hard enough that they would be good.
Break their ankle then.
Go ahead, stand in front of his shot.
Me,
a little powder puff from the point.
They're like,
yeah,
really worried about that.
If you had a forward come in
and in their first three seasons,
score 20, 17, and 17 goals.
You'd be ecstatic.
He did that as a demon.
And ran the piss out of everyone.
Electrifying.
It's, uh,
them not signing him doesn't make sense.
Just like them trading him didn't make sense.
It wasn't like he was distressed when they moved him.
He was still a dominant young force on the blue line in the NHL.
It was two weird things that don't fit with what you said,
which was Darrell loved this guy.
You'd never seen him so happy as when he slides to them at seven or wherever he's
picked and he gets to go up on stage and safe enough snam.
Like, it just,
None of it fits.
Yeah.
I don't get it.
Winning above all else.
And it's his guy.
Fishy.
Not bad numbers.
Not bad numbers.
Yeah.
Well, that's too bad.
He'll lose six away from 500.
Because he would,
I know that would be something that he would think about 500 points.
Yeah.
So Dion could have played in that 04 run rack.
Yes.
Oh, dear.
I feel like a lot of people don't know that.
Yes.
I had no idea.
Well, I mean,
could have played.
He's drafted the prior summer.
He's done his junior season.
And like any player when their junior season done, they can be summoned by their
NHL team once they're signed.
I just,
they didn't sign.
And there was all kinds of talk about it because we had no defenseman.
And yeah.
I'll say this at the time I didn't know him was talking about it.
Here's, you know, but in hindsight, it's like, oh, damn, that would have.
What it was at the time was the uncertainty of the lockout.
They didn't want to burn a year and then have a year, year two of a three year deal,
be used up in a year where they're not playing.
in hockey. I can see a rationale, but it's so, I've said it before.
Oh, I'm not defending. Yeah. But you're right. That was another layer that would explain
some of the stuff because we didn't know what was going to happen. We knew there was labor
stoppage or impasse coming. We're contracts going to get pushed a year, where they get a burn
a year? Are we all of a sudden running this kid into a second contract and he's only played
how many games? Like whatever, you could have had a cup. That still will be the retort.
Now, you might not have known what kind of player he was until you saw it a year and a half later.
draft him in the top.
But he's a mega stud prospect just destroying people in junior.
Yeah.
He was scary when he came in, Jack.
You got to watch the highlight reels of hits in his first two or three years.
He might have been the last guy that really ran around in.
Wilson does it to a certain extent.
Is a defenseman though?
But like, when you think about the Scott Stevens type of,
he would blow guys up, like once a week, you'd be like, oh, my.
Oh, dear.
I remember him running some poor bastard.
Long Island.
Exhibition, I think it was like, oh, my God.
Just helicopter.
Oh, yes.
In Ottawa, I remember since someone's spinning like someone like over golf
club and fall off.
He kind of had that unique kind of heel kick as he was going to go backwards to ship.
I mean, because I happened, I was in Red Deer.
The years that he was there, I was working covering the rebels.
Yes.
And it was worse there.
Oh, he was.
Because he was six three to 20 in junior catching 17 year olds.
with their head down
Yeah
See you in the concussion ward
We could get him on
40 years old
He would always talk
He doesn't like talking loosely
In his lips
Ah we'd loosen them up
Hey it's Pinter
Yeah
Long list
I met him actually curling
Like four years ago
Is it?
Goes to Toronto
Berkey loves him
Captain
Leaves are super pumped
to have them
Becomes the captain
They're not that good.
But they're not that good.
It's like part of the Phil Kessler, I want to say.
And they blew it that one year against Boston.
Oh, baby.
That was awesome.
The Ray Cross of 12.13.
They were up four, one with 10 minutes left in the third.
I was in Hawaii.
It was the greatest collapse I've seen.
This is so good.
And it's a playhouse.
Holy they're going to scrote.
It's nice taking pleasure in other people's pain.
It's all we have, rats.
from Calgary with
Frederick Shustram and Keith Olly
to Toronto for Jamal Mayors
Nicholas Hagman Matt Stajan
and Ian White
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I remember that day
because there was a game
the night before
and he was hung to the tits
I think when he came to the rank the next day
because it was a Sunday morning
is okay
hey we got to do a show
Funf got traded
what?
Yeah, Funnuf's traded
we don't know for what it's going to Toronto it's like oh what can it be what could it possibly be
then you start thinking what could it possibly what could it be well maybe I'm not
you know maybe there's something no draft picks is it where's the first where's the first and
third where's this where's the some parts with Ian White's okay
Jamal mayor's fourth line guy stage and it's a stud stage is stay all right
stage.
Yeah, stage.
Hagman, you know,
no picks the way.
Okay.
All right.
So you're giving up like an all-star
and you're getting a bunch of middle of the roster
to bottom of the roster players.
Is that an accurate?
Yeah.
Well, Darrell likes to play a certain style of hockey.
And Funnuff just didn't fit into the...
That's right.
It's just, yeah.
So it's too Western Canadian for Darrell.
Couldn't handle it.
Wait, you're from Edmonton and played in Red Deer
and you hit like a...
Yeah, you're wearing boots in my locker room, son.
