Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Revisiting The Dion Phaneuf Era In Calgary… What Went WRONG?? 👀 | BB Clips

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

Boomer, Pinder & Rhett take a trip down memory lane to revisit the blockbuster trade that sent Dion Phaneuf from the Toronto Maple Leafs to the Ottawa Senators 10 years ago today, breaking down wh...at the deal meant at the time and how it shaped Phaneuf’s NHL career, while also reflecting on the earlier trade that moved him from the Calgary Flames to Toronto and whether Calgary gave up on him too soon. The guys dive into Phaneuf’s evolution as a defenseman, his impact as a captain, and Rhett’s take that Dion should have been part of the Flames’ 2004 Stanley Cup run — and how his presence might have changed everything for that roster.Youtube Link: https://youtu.be/uDA6OZ8VQMs#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #nhlpicks #stanleycup #calgaryflames #calgary CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️BARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 10 years ago today. Oh, anniversary. The Leaves traded Dionne Funuff to the Ottawa Senators. And then from there he went to L.A., right? Yeah. Is that it? Darrell. Is that there?
Starting point is 00:00:15 I don't think Darrell was there. Might be the end of Darrell. Dionne Funnuff, Matt Fratt, and Casey Bailey, Ryan Rupert, Cody Donahey to the senators for Jared Cowan, Colin Greening, Milan, Mahalach, Tobias Lindberg, and a second. There are a lot of guys that were supposed to be something that didn't turn out to be much in that, too. Kids, that's for you to learn. There's a lot of names out there,
Starting point is 00:00:34 and the names sometimes don't always be. Oh, look up. Matt Fratton, all right? You're looking at Basi? Because I said he was going to... No, I'm looking at Fennon. But you were looking at Bussie. That's from last week, yeah. I know, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:00:47 You think you're in front of the... I was talking about Bussie for about a month or two. When you guys over and... Slender out of the NHL. What are you doing? This is the Pinder Report. Oh, yeah. He was a senator
Starting point is 00:01:00 for two and a half seasons and then went to LA for two seasons well I guess season and a half but yours for LA 17 18 1819 and I had brought up in the pre-show you get for show was it 49 million was that seven times seven
Starting point is 00:01:23 and that it's math checks out when you have played to a certain level a certain style and it's physical and hard and punishing And just because you're the one laying out the hits doesn't mean you're not rocking a toll on yourself. It just felt like, you know what? I got, I got enough money.
Starting point is 00:01:45 It's hard. Go on 100 miles an hour and hitting and shooting and my hip. I'm just not sure. I'm not sure that's for me anymore. The interesting thing about this anniversary is I don't know that it evokes any motion in either market because everyone was just cooked and you're removing problems around at point. Yeah. Like the anniversary of the fun of enough trade from Calgary to Toronto is what the hell's going on? How did this happen?
Starting point is 00:02:09 Again, a lot of names. What the hell is Daryl thinking? How could you not get more? Other GMs in here. It's like, oh my gosh, we can talk forever about that. This one, you're like, yeah, everyone was done with everyone. Should we give Daryl shit about that one? Because that was, I think he's got trade. Yeah. Oh, my heavens. Yeah. Daryl, the GM is not going to the Hall of Fame. Daryl, the coach is absolutely going to the Hall of Fame. Hey, we're, we're very accountable. We say dumb things. We do dumb stuff all the time. We own that I think Daryl's got a own that one.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Oh, I think if you're at the, the pub with Big Dean, and her I goreye Coke going. Yeah, I might have jumped the gun. You know what, though? He is a stubborn son of a gun, though. Stubbered cuss? Because at the time,
Starting point is 00:02:49 I mean, it's a loser's mantra. Oh, well, if I would have known, I would have done something. That's what the story. I can't believe they did this Toronto deal. Funuff wasn't available, because he was talking about, bang, bang, bang,
Starting point is 00:03:02 I had no idea. You have to think that if there was a bidding war. Yeah, some kind of open season. You would do better than that. You would do better than that. Yeah. Ian White and Freddie Schustrom. Jamal, mayor. What, Hagman? Yeah. Goosh.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah. I still don't know why he traded him at all. It doesn't really ever seem to pass the smell test, no matter which way you look at it or whose shoes you put yourself in. It's just, it makes sense for Toronto to make that deal. It's just like politics. These bastards are getting kickbacks behind the scenes. They're always getting kickbacks.
Starting point is 00:03:43 They're still getting millions from Toronto right now. So what was your, I'm joking. What was your, you're near the end of it there of your career? I was gone. Wasn't I? But I mean, you've, I was shocked.
Starting point is 00:03:58 You've accepted them and for that. Yeah. I'm just like everyone else, it's like, that's what you're after? But when he came in, I guess is what... Oh, he was a stud. God, he was good. I've said it.
Starting point is 00:04:09 We win the Stanley Cup if Darrell's not so fucking stubborn about signing him in the year before. When we go to Tampa Bay and we don't have a defenseman without a broken ankle. For people that don't know, it's worth digging into that. He was, he had been drafted first round. Yep. And would have been available to play for the flames but needed a contract. Yeah, and they wouldn't give him the money. His entry level deal.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And of course, at that time, you would have wanted to burn the first year. Bonuses. Blah, blah, blah. You wanted to max out. And, okay. But goodness. But goodness. But goodness gracious.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I wonder if that came. And I don't have any knowledge, but it's almost to the point of, was Darrell barking up the food chain, trying to get it done? Or was Darrell being the stubborn bastard? I don't know, but it made no sense. We're in the Stanley Cup playoffs. Brennan Evans. Brennan Evans is playing.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And Dionne Finoff would have been a man. We win the cup because he would have, he was so talented and mean and hard-nosed. He would have crushed guys. Yes. Crushed them because there was no lack of confidence. Yeah. He wasn't dipping his toe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Granted, the year after was the lockout. So we're talking a year and a bit down the road. He had 20 goals. as a rookie. Defenseman. So even if that's a player who's going to help you. Oh, even if he's just a six and he hits guys.
Starting point is 00:05:37 To your point. Way more than they had. He had me playing 22 minutes a night. No. No, no, no. No. So was Funnuff stubborn? Was Darrell stubborn?
Starting point is 00:05:47 I do wonder about the up the food chain because the thing of it is more than, it was obvious. This was a Darrell guy. Oh, the day he drafted on their arm and arm and smiling. If he was prepared to pay anybody, it would have been this guy because he needed him and it's his guy. Right, but he also traded him for pennies of dollars. But that's down the, right? But at that point in time, you're in the-
Starting point is 00:06:10 Made no sense how he didn't sign and play. Made no sense. You know, Daryl, the GM, there's a lot of things he doesn't give a shit about. I can't imagine fiscal responsibility when you're in the Stanley Cup playoffs and you need bodies would be at the front. I don't give a, pay this fucking guy, whatever. We could win a cup. here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:29 With, kind of my thought on how Daryl would be thinking. So I do wonder if it's, well, we can't let the rookies come in and dictate terms and all. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:40 But it's, it's, yeah. Oh, let's get Murray on the show and he'll tell us. Hey, Murr. Without a doubt, with no question in my mind, he plays,
Starting point is 00:06:47 we win. I agree. You were so depleted in the men. So, depleted. Sorry, Cami. Comey.
Starting point is 00:06:56 It's fine. Hmm. was there what, Lidman, Regear? Well, Tony could have to play because he had concussions and these
Starting point is 00:07:04 shouldn't have been out there. Reggie had a broken ankle and shouldn't have been out there. I'm playing way too much. Goce blew his knee out of game three. Yeah. It's the two-layer effect there. It's the guys you were missing,
Starting point is 00:07:16 but the guys you had were just playing way too much. You had too many games. Yeah. And travel and everything. Yeah. If only, just,
Starting point is 00:07:24 can you come in and just not get scored on for 18 a night? we might win. Well, and he could rip the puck. Oh, yeah. And what we didn't have was offensive defensemen. Right. Like even on the power play, if even,
Starting point is 00:07:39 they, Tampa Bay blocked so many shots, but he could shoot it hard enough that they would be good. Break their ankle then. Go ahead, stand in front of his shot. Me, a little powder puff from the point. They're like,
Starting point is 00:07:51 yeah, really worried about that. If you had a forward come in and in their first three seasons, score 20, 17, and 17 goals. You'd be ecstatic. He did that as a demon. And ran the piss out of everyone.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Electrifying. It's, uh, them not signing him doesn't make sense. Just like them trading him didn't make sense. It wasn't like he was distressed when they moved him. He was still a dominant young force on the blue line in the NHL. It was two weird things that don't fit with what you said, which was Darrell loved this guy.
Starting point is 00:08:21 You'd never seen him so happy as when he slides to them at seven or wherever he's picked and he gets to go up on stage and safe enough snam. Like, it just, None of it fits. Yeah. I don't get it. Winning above all else. And it's his guy.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Fishy. Not bad numbers. Not bad numbers. Yeah. Well, that's too bad. He'll lose six away from 500. Because he would, I know that would be something that he would think about 500 points.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah. So Dion could have played in that 04 run rack. Yes. Oh, dear. I feel like a lot of people don't know that. Yes. I had no idea. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:02 could have played. He's drafted the prior summer. He's done his junior season. And like any player when their junior season done, they can be summoned by their NHL team once they're signed. I just, they didn't sign. And there was all kinds of talk about it because we had no defenseman.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And yeah. I'll say this at the time I didn't know him was talking about it. Here's, you know, but in hindsight, it's like, oh, damn, that would have. What it was at the time was the uncertainty of the lockout. They didn't want to burn a year and then have a year, year two of a three year deal, be used up in a year where they're not playing. in hockey. I can see a rationale, but it's so, I've said it before. Oh, I'm not defending. Yeah. But you're right. That was another layer that would explain
Starting point is 00:09:41 some of the stuff because we didn't know what was going to happen. We knew there was labor stoppage or impasse coming. We're contracts going to get pushed a year, where they get a burn a year? Are we all of a sudden running this kid into a second contract and he's only played how many games? Like whatever, you could have had a cup. That still will be the retort. Now, you might not have known what kind of player he was until you saw it a year and a half later. draft him in the top. But he's a mega stud prospect just destroying people in junior. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:12 He was scary when he came in, Jack. You got to watch the highlight reels of hits in his first two or three years. He might have been the last guy that really ran around in. Wilson does it to a certain extent. Is a defenseman though? But like, when you think about the Scott Stevens type of, he would blow guys up, like once a week, you'd be like, oh, my. Oh, dear.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I remember him running some poor bastard. Long Island. Exhibition, I think it was like, oh, my God. Just helicopter. Oh, yes. In Ottawa, I remember since someone's spinning like someone like over golf club and fall off. He kind of had that unique kind of heel kick as he was going to go backwards to ship.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I mean, because I happened, I was in Red Deer. The years that he was there, I was working covering the rebels. Yes. And it was worse there. Oh, he was. Because he was six three to 20 in junior catching 17 year olds. with their head down Yeah
Starting point is 00:11:06 See you in the concussion ward We could get him on 40 years old He would always talk He doesn't like talking loosely In his lips Ah we'd loosen them up Hey it's Pinter
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah Long list I met him actually curling Like four years ago Is it? Goes to Toronto Berkey loves him Captain
Starting point is 00:11:34 Leaves are super pumped to have them Becomes the captain They're not that good. But they're not that good. It's like part of the Phil Kessler, I want to say. And they blew it that one year against Boston. Oh, baby.
Starting point is 00:11:46 That was awesome. The Ray Cross of 12.13. They were up four, one with 10 minutes left in the third. I was in Hawaii. It was the greatest collapse I've seen. This is so good. And it's a playhouse. Holy they're going to scrote.
Starting point is 00:12:01 It's nice taking pleasure in other people's pain. It's all we have, rats. from Calgary with Frederick Shustram and Keith Olly to Toronto for Jamal Mayors Nicholas Hagman Matt Stajan and Ian White Binder Report
Starting point is 00:12:21 brought to you by I remember that day because there was a game the night before and he was hung to the tits I think when he came to the rank the next day because it was a Sunday morning is okay
Starting point is 00:12:33 hey we got to do a show Funf got traded what? Yeah, Funnuf's traded we don't know for what it's going to Toronto it's like oh what can it be what could it possibly be then you start thinking what could it possibly what could it be well maybe I'm not you know maybe there's something no draft picks is it where's the first where's the first and third where's this where's the some parts with Ian White's okay
Starting point is 00:13:03 Jamal mayor's fourth line guy stage and it's a stud stage is stay all right stage. Yeah, stage. Hagman, you know, no picks the way. Okay. All right. So you're giving up like an all-star
Starting point is 00:13:18 and you're getting a bunch of middle of the roster to bottom of the roster players. Is that an accurate? Yeah. Well, Darrell likes to play a certain style of hockey. And Funnuff just didn't fit into the... That's right. It's just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:28 So it's too Western Canadian for Darrell. Couldn't handle it. Wait, you're from Edmonton and played in Red Deer and you hit like a... Yeah, you're wearing boots in my locker room, son.

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