Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Rhett SOUNDS OFF On Zayne Parekh’s World Juniors Performance & Future In The NHL 😬 | BB Clips

Episode Date: January 5, 2026

Boomer, Pinder and Rhett dive into a heated conversation about Flames defenceman Zayne Parekh after his World Juniors performance. Rhett wasn’t impressed, feeling like Parekh played with very little... urgency, which sparks a pretty spirited back-and-forth on compete level, maturity and expectations. They also react to Parekh’s recent comments about players being “robots” and wanting more personality in the game, asking what he really meant — and whether it helps or hurts him right now.VIDEO LINK: https://youtu.be/VzP4UuVlxrY#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #nhlpicks #stanleycup #stanleycupfinal #calgaryflames #calgary CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️BARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Oh, I'm so wound up, but I watched that play last night. Trade his ass to throw him in on the deal. The defenseman? Yeah, the defenseman. He's in the cell parrack stock. I'm 100%. Do you want to talk about the comments that? Keep his comments to himself, grow up, and if you play.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Oh, I school. He had a really, really, really. really good tournament and he had a soft play on an impenic goal. Is that, is that fair? Did he have any more soft plays or are you just not going to watch? There's definitely more soft plays, but this is the- Also, the things that they wanted to work on, he's just, ah. Well, you can want guys to work on stuff and sometimes it's not in their DNA,
Starting point is 00:00:49 which to your point might be why if you're not, if what your team identity is, doesn't match, don't get in that business. I think emotions are high. My thing is- With around him, I think his are high, the world juniors. the loss, the flames, the need to, you know, everyone's just this thirst for young stud players. And it's like, well, they've got one. Look at this guy.
Starting point is 00:01:12 And then it's, ah, geez, could you play a little harder? It's, ah. They also, they haven't really given him the opportunity to do what he's best at. They've asked him to be a different player than the one they drafted. Like, they haven't given him first power player reps or a top four defenseman to play with yet. I go back and forth. That's the guy you draft. I can't. There has to be underlying issues.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I just think it's so soon. It's so early. For what? Anything. To have to make major decisions on what this guy's career is going to be and his. Wow. Here's the problem I have with all of it and I had it when they drafted him was that you had other guys available at that time where you didn't have to wonder what it was going to be.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Yeah. They didn't have the offensive ceiling, but certainly better 200 foot defensemen are there. He is not a all-ins top pair. defenseman. He is an offensive specialist and that comes with certain you know, deficiencies. Does that sound like a Calgary Flames, Ryan Huska type of? No, and that's why I don't think it worked.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Like if you're not going to let him run the power plane, you're not going to give him an actual tough for defenseman to play with. Maybe you should. Like he gets a little bit of poopie pants or pouty pants when it doesn't? No, you know what I think too is unfair and I don't know what. I think in fairness Husk is a smart guy. He sees shit. He kept getting injured.
Starting point is 00:02:31 He'd come back. He'd get hit down the tunnel. Well, okay, well, don't put him. He'd come back. He'd get hit. I think it was as much about that as it was. If he had stayed healthy and hadn't missed time, they're going to put him on the power play.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I mean, he didn't. He just hasn't put, he's 19. Yeah. And I, yeah, but you have to give the coach time with the player. I agree. To put him in those spots. It's like, okay, well, you were high. You were top 20 pick.
Starting point is 00:02:57 All right. Game two, power play. And you can do better than giving him a baller. being his whole or Hanley too, right? It's not it's not correct or the coach's fault that that's who he's got around to surround him with. No, it is. Because he was playing Miramano and Hanley and Bean with Weiger for half a year.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Yeah, he mismanaged. Like you can, Uyghers played more time on the left and the right. It's not like there's a, it doesn't have to happen instantly. You're making a good point where he's still very young and it can come, but they could have handled them differently. I think both are true.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Yeah, I agree with that. And I think it's going to be. fascinating to see how this unfolds because they're going to be an announcement in the next probably 48 hours of what they're going to do is Ayn Perrect. He's either going to be returned to Calgary, assigned to junior, and which one it is opens a really fascinating debate of where is he at in his development? Is he on the same page as the coach? And how are they going to turn this player into the best NHL or they can, whether they want to keep him or trade them? This is another one of those things where I, and I honestly, almost I thought, well, don't even, don't even show it.
Starting point is 00:04:01 because it is so hypocritical. We crush guys for coming out with and not saying shit. No, we really don't crush guys for not saying it because we just don't play it. You just get tired of it. We just like, it's not what we're, yeah,
Starting point is 00:04:14 you wish guys would say something. Then when guys say something, if it doesn't jive with, it's like, I don't know, but this was, this is everywhere. So to not talk about it means we're not doing,
Starting point is 00:04:25 we're not covering the story correctly. World Junior, Zane Perak is having a tremendous tournament, tied for the tournament leading points. He's having a great time, all of this. And he's asked about, it just looks like you're, you're very happy. This has not been a great year for you.
Starting point is 00:04:40 It's been injured. And he's, where's this personality coming from? It's like, I think it's more watching NHL guys be robots and not having any personality. I think you need some personality. And it's the best way to grow the game. I don't want to come in here and be a robot.
Starting point is 00:04:55 When I'm in Calgary, I definitely have a lot of guys that are telling me to give really simple answers. But here, I could kind of do what I want. And before we dive into it, when he says, lot of guys, I don't know if that's PR staff. I don't know if that's coaches. I don't know if that's players. I don't know if that's the GM.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I don't know if it's, you know, his inner circle. But I don't mind a guy wanting to show us your personality. Like, we see it with Devon Kuhli. He talks in a way that we don't hear NHL players talks. And you're like, wow, like I feel like I know more about this player than the stock answer guys. but that said when you're a healthy half the time and you have one point in 11 games it might not be personality time there's some middle ground here yeah you're not growing the game by running your mouth on the fucking media that's what i i don't have a problem with the saying it it just underlines
Starting point is 00:05:43 that there's there's nobody's well i guess they're telling them not to have personality but you have to play first yeah be a player show us your personality and i don't i don't can you put that back up jack i don't i don't read a lot into this, these comments. But a lot of people do. He likes to himself talk. Yeah, like a lot of fans do read into it. They're like, well, now what are the guy?
Starting point is 00:06:07 It's the guys in the room. They're not letting them have fun. It's the guys are pissed off in the room. And again, we don't know who, but you don't know who a lot of guys are, whether that's, you know, the communication staff. I have a lot of guys telling me to give really simple answers. That's not bad advice. You can do what you want.
Starting point is 00:06:25 But if you want to continually have to answer for, if you're going to say stupid things, well, then you're going to have to answer for saying the stupid things. That's the catch. It's that if I just answer your question simply. But did he say anything in his time here that never rooms? That's why I sort of. And what does he mean? But here I could kind of do what I want. What do you mean? What does that mean? What did you do that you wanted that you can't in Calgary? I would think that being a star on this team and a high profile player, he's got a voice and is a platform to air how he feels. whereas if you're a rookie in the first year of your own-issau career,
Starting point is 00:07:01 it's like maybe just, you know, wait. But what do you mean by platform to air how he feels? What does that mean? Well, he's a leader and he's going to be asked to speak to the media a lot. And, you know, he as a leader, the team can say, here's what I want to talk about rather than if you're a rookie, it's probably not crazy to see the veterans say, hey, maybe don't touch this topic.
Starting point is 00:07:20 That's a little sensitive with the media. I don't know what it is. I'm giving examples of what. I think everything's blown out of proportionary. It is. And I mean, it's two things. It's blown out of proportion. What was the question?
Starting point is 00:07:31 It could be nothing, all of that sort of thing. But also, you wish things had started better. Yeah. For Zane Perrek as a Calgary flame. And on and off, you just wish all of this, everything was going a little bit better. Now, his performance at the World Juniors has been great. In the NHL, you know, left you wanting a little bit. But, hey, he's 19.
Starting point is 00:07:53 He's going to. And again, not a lot of opportunity there, right? Like there was not big minutes. There was not big opportunity. Now it's like, okay, so now what do you do with him? Is he playing? Is he going to junior? The other thing we talked about last night on that stream was you've got this
Starting point is 00:08:09 Olympic break. If he's in the NHL level, is he just sitting around? And is he skating with, you know, what's, what's he doing? If he goes to junior, he can't come back. Here's the problem with it all. Is that it shouldn't be a situation where you have to put this much thought, effort, and compute
Starting point is 00:08:29 into deciding what to do with him. That's because of the stupid rule that you guys think I'm insane for always bringing up. I don't think you can put him in a hang on. You bring it up every time. We don't disagree with it or disagree with you. We're 100% agree with you. You just... You're so smart, Ryan. Good point. Like, Jesus, what are you talking about? No, no, no. I'm not, that's not
Starting point is 00:08:47 the angle I'm saying. It's just that... It's the backpack is the only thing. Every time it comes up, you bring up on such a stupid rule. It is. But I don't know that people realize. a fucking idiotic. It solves all these problems here. It solves every problem we're going to talk about. Yeah, we get it.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Not you. Like, I'm not doing the show for you. Okay? We got like 5,000,000 people are going to watch the show. I don't understand if they, I don't know if they understand the nuance of this. Why can't you send it to the air?
Starting point is 00:09:12 Because it's a rule. It would solve all these problems. And next year it's gone. It's so far. Right. It's okay. But so this year, being that this dumb rule exists,
Starting point is 00:09:23 and we all agree about that. Yeah. What do you do with the problem? player. That is where the rubber hits the road. And I don't, there's not an easy answer here. Right? Like there was a time you don't send them back to junior. Now it's not yeah. The H.L. would be the perfect spot. Absolutely. It's not
Starting point is 00:09:38 available. But the fact of the back, you have to still overthink this is odd to me. Because then there's the next layer because we were talking with Bobby last like, well, if he comes in, are you sent him Bresnevich down? You don't want to do that because he's been so good. How do you make it? No, it's not, nothing has been easy or simple. No, and there's so many variables here because if you trade it or Asmus today, well, there's your spot on the right side. That's easy. I'm not saying you playing top pair, but you have three right shot guys. You find room for them to play. The last thing you want to do is bring them back to Calgary and have them in the press box. Like, that's not going to help and get better. Going to junior and maybe not developing and keeping some bad habits, but dominating. It's an option, but I don't love it. And then it's like, okay, well, you can give them a conditioning stint in the A, but you have to healthy scratching for five game minutes and it's in a run.
Starting point is 00:10:25 first and then what about the Olympic break and the when do they trade Amazon? There's so many fucking variables here. And it's not all just what you want to do. For sure, you're the NHL team and you control his rights, but there has to be a, he's going to be a I feel like he's the kind of guy that gets sent to the A and is going to be pissed.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Well, you thought that was going to be the case of World Juniors and it was not the case. He seemed to thrive and love it from all we heard, right? Like you said when guys get sent to the, now maybe the injury changed everything. I said I, when I got sent. that's the fear is that you send a kid down and he's like, bleep this. I'm going to get sent to you.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I think the injury was almost everything there because he wasn't playing at the time he got sent down. He had been out of the lineup. I think if he was playing 14, 15 a night and then get said, oh, we're sending you to the world juniors. We're like, shit, I'm an everyday guy here. I'm playing every night. And if he
Starting point is 00:11:15 goes to the, if he goes to junior, he would he might be mad that he went to world juniors. Yeah. And he might be mad that he went to world juniors now when he made an ass of himself on the open net last night and everyone's going to criticize him and they didn't win. Oh, I want to stay here forever and play. This is so great. Well, you blew it. So. And you know what? Like, I don't like that play either. What's the time? What's the score?
Starting point is 00:11:40 It doesn't matter. It speaks volumes. What's the time and score? You're down one with less than 30 and you've got a chance to maybe get the puck back to maybe give yourself a chance. So no, I'll just give up. So I, and I agree with you. I don't like that play at all. how do you balance an outstanding offensive performance over the course of the tournament with that? Because this is Bouchard 2.0. And I've been saying it for months.
Starting point is 00:12:07 There is going to be so many plays that this kid makes that you're like, wow, how does he do it? And then there's going to be the head scratching. Why does it look like he's not trying? Like it is the closest comp I've ever seen to Bouchard. Well, I don't like it. I don't want him on my team if that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And just like Bouchard, it's the wrong end of the highlight reel and yet at the end of the day, the pluses and the goals are always more than the minuses. It's just the minuses are these incredibly head-scratching plays. And even when you take dry saddle McDavid on the ice, he's still heavily out chances.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Outchutes and outscores the opposition. It's wild. It doesn't mean that Perrette at this age is destined to be exactly what Bouchard is. No, but what he is right now is what everyone hates about Bouchard. The comps, yeah, it's, he's a... And to a lesser extent,
Starting point is 00:12:51 Carlson before Bouchard. I wouldn't want him. if that's what he is. And I'm not saying he will be, but if that's what he is, I don't want. And that, you know, that's, that is a, that position is not the wrong one. I think if you pulled 30 GMs,
Starting point is 00:13:09 you'd get a lot of different answers about how valuable Evan Bouchard is. I don't think it'd be a consensus. We don't like them. We do like him. Carolina apparently was moving on an offer sheet that pushed that four times 10 to the table from the oilers. Like there are teams that will covet them. Others will say, I'm not touching them.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And so there you have this polarizing asset is your top prospect. Like we've sat here doing this at how much time we've talked about it or just in the studio or whatever. Like it's a it's got to be a major conversation at the dome. Yeah. Because like you say, but that's part of the problem. It is part of it. But it is.
Starting point is 00:13:43 You're the hot topic. You're the top prospect in the organization and the team's going, I don't know what to do. You wish it was different. And you've seen lots of really good players that everyone loves. have moments in their career where they and their organization were at loggerheads when they were very young. Ryan O'Reilly had two very, very nasty contract negotiations with the Colorado Avalanche. I bet you there was-playing and producing.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I bet you there was people saying like, how dare this young kid ask for this kind of money? What the nerve? Why does he think he's more important than the team? And then like, you know, at the end of his career, you're like, shit, like that's a fringy Hall of Fame career with a cup. Like, he's a very young, talented kid. I wonder how he and Ryan Huska make this work. If you had to guess, because then we'll move on. what is because the juniors are essentially over.
Starting point is 00:14:30 They're going to play for a medal. What happens here with Zaynard? I don't know what the roster freeze situation is for junior. Can you send them back at any time? I believe it's January 10th. You have to have your roster. I think it's later for major, but that's a good question.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Like, I don't know what, if you're in the NHL, I don't know when you can go back. Bashar just went back. Like I know that the junior teams have to have their roster set by January 10th for the remainder of the season. Yeah, and I don't know if there's an exception for NHL returns, but trades and stuff that is the case. Because, yeah, the options are, they're compelling, but they're kind of few and far
Starting point is 00:15:10 between because he can't, he can't go to the American hockey league except on a conditioning stint, which is temporary. All of this, sorry, I'm giggling, because you are very interrupted today. You're very passionate. Yes, but the biggest issue comes back to not saying, Correct. What are the flames doing? Because if you're tanking, and I'll say it because I love it. If you're tanking, you bring the kid back and you play the piss out of them. That's what I'd like to see. That's what you do.
Starting point is 00:15:37 At the end of the day, I think that's what happened. That's the biggest issue is that the flames would admit what the, or they don't know, or we're just so patient. Kiss my patient. Pick a lane. Because I also think just, and I said this before, and then it kind of went the other way, I think you just want this guy in your in your circle. Yep. Let's get you in here. If there's minor repairs that need to be made,
Starting point is 00:16:03 we're going to make them. You're a flame. You're not going to junior. You're with us. Yeah, you got to sit with, look, you're a category flame.
Starting point is 00:16:10 You're a massive part of our future. You're not going anywhere. Sit down with him and his age and say, hey, love you. Why don't you go back to junior? What do you think about Saginaw? That's in Michigan.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Remember that place? See you like the coach? You'd be fine. You're going to have fun. You might lose him for God. You could send him to junior and then when their season's over, he can come back and he gets to play a bunch of hockey and play a bunch of minutes. If he's already got these quotes, what's going to say?
Starting point is 00:16:38 So Leon Drysoddle was sent down in his rookie year after, I think, famously like 41 or 42 games. God, we were hopefully he was going to be a bust, right? Well, they brought him up too soon, but they acknowledged it in January 4th. They sent him back to junior. And then I think they orchestrated the trade from PA to Colonna. that was January 4th. And so I don't,
Starting point is 00:16:56 if you can send a player back later than Jan 10, I'm bringing them back and I'm going to let time solve problems. Is there an injury on the right side? Does Erasmus trade offer a rise? But if it's Jan 10, like they got to make a decision real quick on this. My gut tells me there's, they ain't junior. I don't want it to be junior because I just think all it's doing.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I think you lose the player too. I hadn't thought about it from his side. You risk the chance of losing him way up. might go, yeah, I'll go to junior. And then the come summer, oh, as I'm leaving town, here's my get me traded the F out of here card. The, can I just jump it? Because you made it, and I don't know if you did it here,
Starting point is 00:17:40 because you talk a lot and I hear you all kinds of talk. But the one point is Zane's Flames experience has not been great because of the injuries and that. But also when he was here, the team was losing a lot. There was not a good morale or a good. vibe in that room. It was fucking, it was miserable. So for most of his games that he played for the Calgary Flames, they would have been sitting in 32nd place with the lowest scoring roster in the NHL and a historically bad one in October and with the worst power play in the NHL.
Starting point is 00:18:10 We saw how the how the veterans looked post game after those games. Imagine when you're a kid, it's like, this is the dream. This is what I've been dying to get. And they're not looking at you as a solution. It's in and out of third pair and press box. They're not like, let's try Zane on the first pair that might unlock things they didn't try it yeah so i i think you bring him here get them in house you're gonna play 20 you got a 20 year career we're not going to worry about the next four months of you in sagina or whatever so there's an olympic break fine take an olympic break you play whatever is the a play then yes that's when you go to the age but to go to the a you have to healthy scratch in five in a row, that's what opens the conditioning window.
Starting point is 00:18:55 So you could, but then you got to sit them essentially for a week and a half to get him those two weeks of HL time. Which you can. You can do it. If you got to do it, you got to do it. But I think that, yeah, in that respect, you move things forward and just keep him. I think you have to. And again, it wouldn't be a debate if the donkey's down.
Starting point is 00:19:20 It's a, sorry, my month's going to change the subject. Okay. Can't call people talking. Thanks.

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