Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Rob Ray (FULL INTERVIEW) | FN Barn Burner

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

Boomer and Rhett Warrener are joined by Buffalo legend Rob Ray for an in-depth conversation about his legendary career, his current work with the Sabres, and his life in Buffalo. Rob shares stories from his playing days, including his time as a teammate of Rhett, and gives his thoughts on the current state of both the Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Bills. A must-watch for any fan of Buffalo sports!Let us know what you think in the comments below!!BARN BURNER BLONDE https://originbrewing.myshopify.comFLAMESNATION MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8INSTANT REACTIONShttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-dO2AraHTeftSpPt00evo8M&si=lY5D3nk8zVtrQgql🚨 Subscribe to @Flames_Nation on Youtube 🚨➡️ / @flames_nation 🔥 Barn Burner with Boomer, Pinder, & Rhett Warrener➡️ • Flames Nation Barn Burner 🔥 After Burner ➡️ • Flames Nation After Burner @dailyfaceoff2563 LIVE with Frank Seravalli:➡️ / @dailyfaceoff2563 💻 Website: https://flamesnation.ca🐦 Follow on Twitter: @FlamesNation @960boomer @PinderReport @Warrener44📺 Subscribe on Youtube: @Flames_Nation#RobRay | #Buffalo | #BuffaloSabres | #BuffaloBills#Rayzor | #GoBuffalo | #SabresNation | #BillsMafia#BuffaloStrong | #BuffaloProud | #LetsGoBuffalo | #BuffaloBillsFans#RayzorSharp | #BuffaloLove | #SabresFans | #BillsFans#RobRayRocks | #BuffaloForever | #SabresForLife | #GoBills Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Security's always been an issue for us here, like any other company. But since we've grown, it's gotten tighter. We're not proud of it, we don't brag about it, but you never know who the hell's going to walk through the door. I got a delivery. Can I see some ID, please? Where my hands are kind of full right now. He said he wanted to see some ID smart, Guy. You don't know how crazy people can be out there.

It's dangerous. Next time has some ID! Hey, Rob. Hey, coach. You can't be too careful. I'm gonna just check in on your rob yeah you can check in I'm all good down here Dan just trying to clean my glasses up a little bit so I could put them on and see through Are you gonna need stitches before we yeah it will be but that's that's fine but I can't use my page anymore that I have my notes on because it's a kind of

Littered in some yeah we just kind of keep that to ourselves but nonetheless good to go normal guy would have been carried out of here Yeah, there weren't any tears or no You're good. Bring back some memories, did it? Yeah, it felt good. A fight going on with some fans. Oh, my goodness. They jumped over the glass. Some fan went right over the glass.

Oh, no. They got a whole of them in the bench. No business being there. Oh, look at Rob Ray. My God. This guy sort of sat up there, and he just sort of sat on top of the glass, and he never really said anything. You just sort of sat there, and he stared, and he looked around, and he stared,

and we're kind of wondering, what's this guy going to do? So, you know, we weren't going to really wait to give him. the chance of, you know, who knows what he's going to do, you know, all those things that happen. Listen, when you work for a hockey organization, you have to trust that your teammates will have your back. Tooth, good, we're good. No, it's all right, man. Hey, what are you doing? You don't touch Dan, okay? You don't touch him. Razor always understands the assignment. Congratulations to Round Ray. We look forward to a Hall of Fame induction later this season. Congratulations, Razor, family in the house, Julianne, Robert, and Jordan are here.

As is everybody for you. Well done, Robert. Pretty cool. Thank you. All the fame of Rob Ray. Yeah. See you again. Slow year.

Not at all. They didn't have much to choose from. Everybody else is dead. I don't know if that's accurate or not, but we've talked about it. It's like, that guy, it's a no brain slam dunk, Hall of Fame. You're one of a rare, you spent so much of your career there. You meant so much to the fan base. You're still there.

It's a pretty cool story. I know you're one to shrug it off and you're not going to kind of let it be a thing. But it's a pretty, it's very. I'm starting to cry. It's a very sweet thing. We're very happy for you. I'm teary-eyed, to be honest. There's some guys I was at supper with last night that would be the same thing.

He touched a lot of lives and we don't need to get. too emotional about it but I know for a fact guaranteed just watching this seeing the family being able to participate is the one that probably means the most yeah yeah and you know what you sit back and yeah we had a lot of good times a lot of things happen you did a lot of things over the years but pretty much now that's pretty what it comes down to it's you know my wife and daughter and son it's like that's what it's all about yeah and i always kid the day the best thing I got out of hockey was, you know, being able to go to Buffalo, meet my wife. And, and, you know, that's our lives now.

And you'd trade it all just to be in that situation without everything that came along with it. Keprosoff was put in, his number got retired last year. And it was one of those things, Kipper, that's the last thing he'd ever want or ask for. Oh, I don't like this. But it's, you know what? His kids were there to be a part of that. That's the main point behind it. And just to see, Robert Jr.

here they're getting teary eye this stuff. Yeah, he's awesome. He's just pissed. He's got to get a haircut for the end of the month. And my daughter, she looked at me afterwards and she was like, oh, dad, this is great, but what did you do? Yeah.

But that is part of it. She's made a smart ass about it. But they didn't get some. Some people's kid, they have kids young. Yeah. Your kids didn't get to watch you. I didn't because I didn't.

I played one more year after I got married. So, yeah, they were not around. But when my son was young, young. I tried to keep them around the room as much as possible and kind of see the environment and the guys and get to know him and, you know, just that love of the game. So he got to experience a little bit other than, but since then, I've had a few times when I've been able to play in, you know, charity games, alumni games, and, you know, you bring them out and play with you just so you have that chance to be on the ice at the same time with him. It's pretty cool.

It's one of those things that I feel like we would say, you know, it would be cool as if they did this. This is one of those things. Because it's goals, points. Those, you know, it's the high scores. It's those guys that get it. But I guarantee if you were to go back through the course of your career, there will be Lafontein, McGill, there will be a lot of people. Their favorite player is going to be Rob Ray.

You were, you, it was most of the ladies. But, well, sure, yeah, that's right. But that, and that's the thing. You could have been the same style of player had the same numbers in a different city, and it's maybe not the same. you and Buffalo the way you played and the way you defended your i think for a lot of guys maybe in my situation too moved around a lot yeah you never got the opportunity to stay in one spot yeah and you know i always joked that i was always the last guy in the team to get signed i got what

was left and all that kind of thing and it's all true but i never had desire to explore to go somewhere else to see what it was going to be like. And for me, I was in a perfect situation. I was three and a half hours from home. It was good. My family was always down, family and friends to be a part of it. It was just the Buffalo itself, the people there, the way we live, it just suited me perfectly, you know, for who I was.

And they were great. I still sit and say to guys, look, you can prolong your career by having the people on your side. And if they appreciate you and like you, they're going to support you. Organizations know that, that it's going to help you. It's going to help you stay in a spot. And so get involved, do things, you know, be visible, you know, be somebody with the people. Because if they don't like you and they turn on you, then you're not staying there now.

So. Yeah. Harder to get guys to do that nowadays? Like you're around the game and it's different. Yeah. I mean, we did, you're involved in a gazillion charities and funding and all this stuff. Is it a tougher sell for guys? Like, I don't know.

I mean, I know guys are still involved. Guys still do it. Guys still get out and do things. I don't think they're at the level that maybe we did. Not as hands on. Yes. You know, it's more set up. It's all, you know, they all have foundations and things like that.

They do a few things individually and that. But not so much just for the organization and any, you know, a charity that may need support or help. And, you know, I think a big difference, too. We were always, always out in the community, whether it was, you know, after games. Yeah, 57 West. You're at bars. You know, you're having beers and people.

And people look at you, like, they watch your play. Yeah. But then, you know, an hour later, they're hanging out with you. And I think that side of it is a little different now. Yeah. For different reasons. They're not as part. They're in the community.

You know, part of the community. Yes, because I don't think the people have the same connection all the time to them. And on the player's side, you almost can't do it because you're going to get picked apart. Whereas when we were going through it, it was like, yeah, be part of the community. They loved you for it. What's it like, what do you remember getting into that room? You get traded there from Florida. Well, he's the typical dink that tries to, he wants to know where you're at, right?

He's shooting pucks at you in practice. And you're like, well, did he just miss a pass? Because he's not very good with the pucks. So the first couple, I was like, well, he's just bad at passing. not that good. But then it was like, he's shooting pucks at my feet. He's funny. So that you rip one back at him. You have to test. Yes. You test people just to see how they react, what they do. And then it's either they get in or they don't. Right. You got to get clear, clear the robbery. What are we dealing with here? And sometimes that first impression or first practice or first

day, that'll, you carry that the rest of your time there. Like there's no getting away from it. You can really mess the word dink. If you're a dink, then you're going to be a dink forever. Yeah. Now, because at the end of the career you go to Ottawa, prior to that, were you close to leaving? Was there ever a time where you thought I might be done here? Yeah, I think because I had to sign so many times.

I never had the luxury of having multi-year deals. I signed two multi-year deals, and that was my very first one coming into pro hockey. It was, you know, a two-way deal that was a two-year-in- an option. And then I signed one midway through. I played the two years, and then they never picked up the option, and I signed a one-year deal after that. So I signed like seven contracts in my, but it was always, hey, we want you back, and, you know, we're happy with everything and blah, blah, blah, but we got to sign this guy, and we got to sign this guy, and, you know, we're good. And then all of a sudden, it's late August, if you still haven't signed a contract.

Hard not to be resentful. So it's kind of hard at that point to go somewhere else. I guess. And then you get the phone call. It's like, well, you know, we had to pay a little extra for this guy. And it costs us a little more for this guy. And we thought, and, you know, this is what we got left? What do you think?

And I'm like, what am I going to do? Like, you're no position. Hey, can you throw in a $2,000 plus minus? I collected on one bonus in my whole career. It was a plus minus. And it was like $2,500. But it was fine. For me, at the time, a single guy, just, you know, it didn't, it's not as if I needed a lot to survive.

Yeah. And, you know, you were just content doing that. So I was, I was happy with it. There's, we're all getting old. But it kept us. Yeah. But in that case, too, it kept you hungry. I guess you, for the role you had to play, if you got content or you didn't do it,

then, you know, you're going to be out of the game. You saw so many guys at that, at that time in and out. But for me, I think it was good because it kept you going. Yeah, you may not have liked it or appreciated at the time. The extra money would have been nice. But in the big picture, but in the big picture was probably, yeah, worked out. Longevity. it was way better.

You don't strike me as a guy that was going to get fat and sassy, though, whether they get a two or three year. I got fat. I put on 70 pounds after I was done playing. But I see, I know I'd just go home for my wife and daughter. That's sassy. Yeah. But no.

I was just, I was. There would be some guys like I'm going out there. Like a lot of you guys, 1,200 people. What was I going to do? Like, was I going to say, oh, I'm done. I'm not going to accept this. I'm going to go home. I know.

What the hell was I going to do there? go work on the farm, go sell farm machinery with my old man. It's easy to say that, but then you feel almost like they're taking, they're taking advantage of my good nature. So I, yeah, but you know what? They take advantage of good nature. I try to get pointed across to people at times. You live in a fantasy world.

Like you're playing hockey. Like you're playing a game you grew up loving. And you get, whatever you get paid, it's too much, honestly. In reality, it's too. much. And so if it's a little less or a lot less than the next guy, who cares? Yeah. You know, I'm, he was good at not spending it too. Yeah. Really excelled ever or just ever. Ever. No, I have a house full of mattresses. He's got a few houses full of mattresses and skeletons. Lindy had some nice things to say when the announcement was made about how you just how much you met to

those teams and how every guy maybe felt a little bigger, just felt a little bit more safe. It was just nice knowing that you had a guy like you. Did you, who was that guy when you came in? Or did you just have to step into that role right from day one? No, when I got drafted, I got drafted for my third year junior. So for me, it was like a bonus. Hey, I got drafted of the NHL. I'm going to go to a training camp and this will be the end of my hockey career type thing.

And when I got drafted, I went to the training camp and then went to Rochester because I was 19, 20 years old at the time. And John Van Boxmaker said, hey, this is what they're looking for up there. Are you willing to try and do it? I'm like, hell, yeah, like, whatever. And that was, at the time, there was Mike Hartman and Cubb McGuire were the two guys in Buffalo. And so I'm like, and John Van Boxmaner was the coach. And Box he probably never got in a fight his whole career. But I'm like, show me, teach me.

And that year in the minors, I think I had 46 fighting majors, 440-some minutes of penalties. And, you know, you never saw out of your eyes from October till, you know, April when it was over. You were swollen, shot your hands, whatever. But it was the greatest time in my life. You're making 20 grand in the miners and before taxes. And it was your loving life. It was the greatest thing ever. But, and then I got my chance to the next year.

So to sit there and he probably, he said to me, he goes, you know what? skill-wise whatever you go you play you might get a shot you might not but your chances are going to go way up if you try to do this play this game and i'm like i'm doing it and it worked like the november the next year i got my first opportunity and we're in and played who was your who i forget his name oh he's still in rochester you lived with him when you started oh god metcalf yes scottie yeah yeah yeah i played on a line with scott medcalf and kevin kirk and the three of us lived together. We played as a line together. And it was just chaos. Every night we're on the ice. Because these guys could play. They could fight. So it made it a little bit easier. But they were

nuts. Like they were like Scott McKen. I remember one night in the hay in Halifax. We're on the, we're in front of the Halifax bench. All three of us are fighting whomever. And like we're all tight together. And Meeters trying to have a conversation with me. Well, he's fighting somebody. I'm fighting somebody in front of them. Hey, Razor, when you get home? When we get home from this trip, we got to get some milk. We're out of bread, man. The cereal's almost gone. And I can remember, going, looking at him going, what the hell are you talking?

And I remember looking at the Halifax bench and they're like, what is this show going on of one of us right now? But that's just the way it was. And it was so much fun. But it made it a lot easier with those guys to, you know, kind of figure it out along the way. Would you say that's one of the, for guys in your type of role, the harder things to do because there are guys that i mean it's it's it's it's a tough gig and there are lots of guys that battled it and battled it post and some of what i'm getting at is being able to keep it

this is just what we do so it's just like don't take it too serious like you said let's just go i i think that you have to everybody says oh you can't just go and turn a switch on and go play or do whatever you have to do. I think that's not true. Because there's nights you would sit there sometimes for two periods and all of a sudden you get the look from the coach or the pat from the coach and you knew exactly what, you know, you had to go do. So you instantly had to go from staring at broads in the crowd and seeing what's going on to going out and getting in a fight. So it was like, okay, all of a sudden you had to get yourself in that mindset to go do it. After a while, it got easy. It got really easy. I don't, I think if you go into a situation,

situation when you play it if you're mad and you're angry and you're you're not thinking your way through it you had to slow down and i think and that's something i learned as the older i got slow down and think your way through this instead of just going in wailing like a idiot and burning yourself out and getting hell yeah was it was a thing where you afternoon nap you're not can't sleep if you know oh or detroit it's fucking probert i guess great like did did you get to that point ever or was that part of it along the way where you're thinking, I, I'd just assume not have to do this tonight. Well, you'd always thought, I'd assume not to do it. But yeah, you thought about it at times because I think back then, too, that it was such a big part of the game that even

after morning skate, when there would be media around, that question would come up. Hey, are you fighting a dog, hey, are you in Domey going to law of coin saying? You're whatever going to get. So that's kind of when it started, it starts putting it in your mind a little bit and you're thinking about it. But I never really worried about it too much because I just figured if it was going to happen, it was going to happen. I was confident enough by the time after a few years that it didn't matter who it was. I didn't think I was ever going to get knocked out, but you know, you might at least do what you had to do.

So no, I never really sat there and let it eat me up and eat me up. And I guess it helps that you were really good at. at it you didn't lose many i didn't get i wasn't good at the beginning man it was like like i talked that minors and that 46 fights if if i came out on top on six of them you know i can remember one day in binghampton like literally holding on the ankle of al tour because that's all i was like just grasping and that's so and the miners i think was tougher than when you got to the nchel the miners all those littered with guys and those guys like they're 30 plus years old and their their families and they're fighting for their livelihood.

You know, they were fighting to survive for the next year. So it was way tougher. And more guys. Once you got to the NHL, you know, there's one guy in each team or a couple of guys back then, you know, maybe two, three, that you really had to worry about. And that was it. So I thought it got a little easier the farther you went. But there was some guys that you had to be careful.

There was not a lot of guys could go out and really hurt you. You knew going in after you experienced it. there was a handful of guys that could hurt you. So you had to be a little more careful. The rest, like that VAL fight, you knew when you're going in with Vial or Domi, or you just lock and load, just keep throwing and throwing and throwing and throwing.

And were you going to get hurt? I doubt you were going to get knocked out or anything like that. But it was all maybe show a lot of the time too. And putting, hey, it's an entertainment business. We got to entertain the fans. Watching you fight takes me. I remember my dad,

his big, here's how, If you ever get into one, like you probably don't want to. If you can avoid it, just try your best. If you get in, just do not stop swinging. Don't look up to see how you're doing. Don't think about it. Am I winning?

Bad advice. Just keep throwing. Because you start throwing and then you open yourself up sometimes. Sometimes. You know, to, you got to slow down and think about it. Are you getting? Let the guy throw the first couple maybe and get them and then wait until he opens up. I got my nose broken.

It's different now. It would be easy now because you have video advice. You know, you could punch it up on whatever, you know. Back then, it's like you're going in. There's some kid on the other team, and hey, do you know who this guy is? Is he a left ear or righty? You know, that's the information you had going into it. So you had no idea.

And there was so many guys coming through it. Some teams every time you play them, there was a different person that, you know, may have to go against. So that's what you had. It was very limited. And I think that was good because you didn't have time to, you know, think about it or think about it too much. Being a dad now, you think back. what if your son is 20 playing in the American League fighting 30 year olds every night about 46 fights winning about six of them like it must have been hard for for no my dad

when I signed a contract I called him and I go dad and I sign my first contract but the night of my first game in the American League and Joe Crozier came in and he's got a paper and he goes sign it I'm like what is it it's a contract you want to play don't you And I'm like, hell yeah, I signed it. I didn't know if it was for $1 or $5 million and, and, you know, find out the next day. But when I called my dad, I go, dad, sign a contract. He goes, what? I go, yeah, I, you know, it was for this.

And he goes, seriously, they're paying you to play? And I'm like, yeah. And he was like, what a beautiful world this is. Yeah. This kind of, that was, that was the reaction you got. So, no, it was, you know. I think they had just as much fun with the whole thing as I did because they enjoyed coming and watching them. I can remember lots of nights.

They'd drive to Rod, drive wherever, you know, to watch you play. And I remember one night I played one shift, got off, got in a fight, got kicked out. And they had drove like three hours to come watch me play. And I might have got a minute in. Yeah. But that's part of them. They knew. Yeah.

You ever got tired of talk? Because whenever you sit down to do these things, hey, so tell me about the do me time. I get pumped up. My heart's actually going right now. It's the most excitement I've had in a long time. There's some guys who made their living that way, who they just, they don't really want to talk about it. Maybe those guys didn't do well.

I'm kidding. No, I'm joking. I don't mind it. It was such a part and it's part of, you know, yourself and your career history. That was the point I was saying earlier was that he didn't take it. Obviously, you took it seriously. It was your job. You knew you get, this.

is what I need to do to be able to play in the NHL. But the approach that Razor always had was, it's just like his dad said, they're paying me to. It's business. Yeah. I'm getting paid to play hockey like this. Jesus,

I better stop complaining. Like, life ain't all that bad. Hey, that, that first year that I got all those fights and penalty minutes. And you're talking about pay with my signing bonus and my year's salary. Yeah. I made 13 grand.

it's not a lot i could sit at home now and get unemployment or whatever else they give away now that make more than that yeah so you do you did it for the love you just did it because it was it was awesome yeah it's i think it's cool that this is happening because there's just going to be a generation that they know you as the guy on tv you're the color guy oh the kids now oh yeah you used to fight back in there'll be so many of your classics that'll now be coming up leading up to the hall of fame i think even if a guy like jay oh yeah right right Rob, right, he was a fight. Okay, that's a different, that's different than fighting in today's day and age.

I would think the little different. People are going to have a bit of a new appreciation for you. Well, there was probably more fight, a thrift punches thrown in that myself and Denny Vial than there has all season on our team. Probably. You know, we're in game, you know, 40 something. Yeah. It just doesn't happen anymore.

It's just not. And when you see it, everybody, it's like, oh, my God, you see that fight last night. And it's great when it happens. Because it is part of the. game and and I go back to the entertainment side we're we're in an entertainment business you know all of a sudden it changed to the coaching and and that changed it to win's losses oh we got to win we got to even it's the most boring game in the world if we won two to one or one nothing it's great this is a fantastic night well not really because the 18,000 people on the stand they're going on

this is boring as heck so I saw that you and tie had to sit down yeah leading up to this yeah obviously now this was again this a couple years no we did it a few years ago with Ty. And we did it in the summertime, and we dropped the Jumbotron down in the building with couches and Andrew Peters. And we sat and we went through all 13 fights that Ty and I had in the NHL and talked about each one of them. And it was really cool.

Yeah. Really cool. There again, it helps that you didn't take it too serious. There might be some guys. I don't need to sit down with him and talk about our 13 fights. I don't, you know what? I think all the fights I get in over. 200, 34, whatever it was in the, I don't think I really hate anybody.

There's nobody. I walked away from the game hating a handful of teammates more than guys that I fought. You want to name, name? No. It's not worth it. There's a couple still in the business. But, no, you don't hate people. Yeah.

I don't hate anybody. So what? Like now, I talk text, Ty, talk them all the time. He comes in when he comes in and watches his kids play. Yeah. You know, it's, hey, I'm going to be at the game tonight. You know, you hook up, shoot the shit for a while and see what's going on. We've done for stuff for each other over the years.

And but people think we hate each other because we fought each other. Like, well, maybe you disliked them a little bit at the time. But now, no. Yeah. I mean, it really was, was a crazy, crazy setup with you too. I've never got a chance to watch it. I've seen clips from it and seen you guys were at least cordial with each other and that. but it was it was kind of like domy and proberd when when these two teams would meet and for you

you know Ontario home going into Maple Leaf Gardens and stuff like that was awesome for you I would think oh I you know the one of the best things I that when we had a chance to play is you were able to play in the old Maple Leaf Gardens the old Montreal Forum the old Boston gardens all the odd places the odd was awesome like it was rat infested it was falling apart but it was awesome them to go play and bossing the same thing you know rats running across the floor in the middle of the dress room it's just like oh well you know nobody cared or it was just getting out in that environment it was this unbelievable yeah now you i think you told the story on the radio show about you and tie before the draft yeah what how does that go again we had the same agent

at the time roly thompson and it was always in montreal back then and tie lived in Toronto and growly was up there and so literally the car pulls into my driveway and heading to the draft all excited not kind of knowing what's going on and and uh rolly drive and danny del who was in the front seat tie was in the back seat I opened the door and I'm like uh here we go so because we had played junior I was just saying so you're in Peterborough I was in cornwall so you kind of you had that kind of conflict early before you even got to the nchal and tie never shut up the whole time from my house to Montreal was about a three-hour drive and it was just like you're just sitting there and you just shut up you just wanted to anyways we end up going to the

draft we're in this we shared a hotel room we got in a little scuffle in the room as soon as we got in there and and i kind of banged his head off the nightstand and he got clipped a little bit and we're like oh so we stopped instantly and you called and roll he going oh my god this is what happened and you got it taken care of you know the next day he got to gets drafted, I get drafted, you know, you have a cool night in Montreal, you drive home the next day, you know, pull into my driveway, I get out, see you guys later, you know, and, you know, the next time we really saw each other was, he was in Winnipeg and we were gotten a fight first time on the ice and, and that was it and it went from there. That's bad planning, putting you two in the same hotel room. well it didn't last long like he's like we fought 13 times that would have been 14 times plus what we did in junior and uh he's uh one and 13 so it actually worked out it's it was fine i was

i was happy to give him one you're quite the scorekeeper yeah it's good yeah it's good and and the night he got me was when we made the tie down change we were out for the last night i always wore a goalie jersey because I like the bigger arms. Or go naked. Yeah. But all of a sudden you had to tie down. And I'm like, well, if I got a tie down on the back and we're thinking about lifting the jersey up and all that kind of thing. And I'm like, Georgie, tie me down on the front too.

So they can't. So I had a tie down on the front and the back. So it was going, went from coming off to going nowhere. Right. But the problem we didn't think about was it was a little too long still on the front. So Ty, I lifted my jersey up, swung it over. And my head was in my arm. like this.

And I'm like, son of it. I could see him because through the jersey, but I couldn't hit him. So this was an exhibition. And I actually go off the ice and Georgie's standing there and the trainer and I lose it on him. It wasn't his fault. But I lose it on him. And he goes down and I'm kicking him and he's getting up.

And he's throwing sticks at me. And, you know, five minutes later we're like, we're sitting there together. We're like, we better fix this. Yeah. You know, and that was, so it went from tight. on running back and from there it was no problem. Georgia Babcock has been there. Longer than you?

No, no, Georgie worked at Sabreland. When I first got there, he helped clean the ice and that. Then he started taking the equipment from the practice rink to the plane. And then he started working. So I've been there 36 years. So George is probably 34. Right in there. Yeah.

Do you think that the tie-down stuff came in? You had a big part of that? Because you... I think that I, from what, I understand a lot of general managers at the time we're bitching because when the jersey come off you had nothing to hang on to. And it's an unfair advantage. It's unfair advantage.

Well, maybe I was smarter than the rest of you. That's what they said. Dummy on your team. But anyways, we figured it out. And yeah, it's kind of cool when they kind of half-ass refer it to as the Rob Ray rule. Do you think you had any influence? Yeah. All the influence. Because I think you think back to all of them.

You more than anybody else would be skating to the box or off to the dressing room with maybe your shoulder pads on. Yeah, because I, there was a lot of experimenting going on in that time of how to do it. You know, especially in the miners, guys were spraying stuff on so you couldn't hang on. They had Velcro inside their arms. So you grab on and the Velcro comes off so you could still use your arms. Some had them, the whole sleeve came off. So there was a lot of things.

And Jim Peets telly, our trainer, we called him the fight doctor. And he was every day, it was like, let's try this, let's try this, you know. So there was always something new. It just came to about when the jersey came off the one time because I wore big. And then all they had was the shoulder pads. I'm like, well, if they got the shoulder pads still, so I cut all the straps off the shoulder pads, put Velcro on the cups here. And so it stuck to the jersey.

So boom, as soon as, and it was extra large jersey. So it's gone. And then, you know, there'd be night shooting in a fight. And the guy would be like doing good. And all of a sudden it's like, he looks and he's got the jersey in his hand. And it's like, uh-oh. Now what do I do? you know, in his eyes, and then you go at it.

So, but then there's the odd guy that, you know, the jersey would come off, Dave Brown. I remember the fight with Dave Brown in Philly. And Dave at the time, I was like, oh, my God, this guy is unbelievable. Getting a fight. We start the fight. We're squaring off. And all I can hear is John Muckler on the bench, and he's screaming at me, Razor, don't do it.

Don't do it. I'm like, too late now. I'm fucking radio. You know what? And so we got it and got him good. And both of our jerseys ended up coming off. I caught him at the end. And he just kind of came in and it was like, oh, you know, so it was.

But so when you got in a situation when the other guy's jersey came off too, because then they thought they were going to try to do the same thing. But it didn't work the same way sometimes. There were still something you could grab. They always want to wear a T-shirt, you know, because they weren't as a good shape as I was. Because I was like, you know, come off. And then I started doing a couple times. I did a couple companies back home when they're like, hey, wear my T-shirt underneath.

So when the jersey come off and the T-shirts on underneath, and I did it for Lenova a couple of times and Joey Todaro, and it was, it was awesome. Just kind of made fun of it. The league can't go whiney with you probably. Yeah. Yeah, can't be doing that. We were saying the other day watching Fitzpatrick at the Bills game doing the thing,

taking his shirt off. So we should get Rob, Rob Ray should be doing that. He'd get the fans, just like they've seen you without your shirt so off. I'd still, at this point, even though I put on a lot of weight, still look better. he does he's a hairy bastard hey i only got like three or four right here and a couple around my nipples that's it that's uh bills are doing okay it's yeah they're doing good are they paying attention in buffalo it's kind of a big deal yeah it's kind of a big deal uh but you know what they deserve it they're doing well josh is sick like and and josh is a person great guy you know he does everything

he's a perfect guy for our town um yeah with it that's the bills it's well the other day it's subzero weather you know, the place is packed. My kids were there. It was like, it's the greatest sporting event going when they're doing well in the playoffs like that. So you're fingers crossed, it keeps going. It's hard not even for people that don't maybe have a rooting interest to look at. Daniel's, you're going to, you got a lot of time.

You're going to, you're just a rookie. You're going to have a lot of time maybe to win. And Chiefs, we've seen you win. And Eagles, you just won a few years ago. It's got to be the bills. It's got to be the bills this year. But for anybody that's never gone, Rhett, you've been, it's everything leading up to the game. Like my neighbor, my neighbor, if it's a one o'clock, he's leaving our neighborhood at four o'clock in the morning.

Like they're getting there, getting their spots, getting a set up. It's the whole pregame, the party before. So probably 70% of those people are bombed before the game even starts. And then once they get in, they just go. They're professional. They are. They're good at it. And it's a lot.

Like, you could go there and not even go into the building. And we've done it before when we're just playing. And go just for the tailgate. And I remember one day we had this band thing that had a TV in it. And Grant Fure and I are looking at each other. We're going, do you really want to go in and mess with all that? No. We sat there.

We had it on TV in this little van. We had our whole thing set up outside. You had to take a leak. Oh, yeah. You want to go get something to eat. The barbecue is right there. And everybody else was in. That was one of the greatest days watching the game ever.

Open up the door when they'd score. You'd hear the building that you'd hear all the cheers. It'd sound like you were in there. Shut it again. Get warm. Yeah. Yeah. So are you, uh,

Are you a big deal when you're walking through the tailgazing? I don't go to the games. I don't go because I wouldn't be able to enjoy it because it would be like the Beatles, man. Like they couldn't go anywhere. Sadly, it's not even that far off. I don't know if it's the Beatles, but people. But it would be. Razor, raise a, raise her.

Come up Sunday. Come up Sunday. And you know what? Yeah, I let my kids go do it themselves. Then they can go enjoy it. Yeah. If they go with me, it's not fun. So what's the vibe?

Because I think we were talking about it for a guy like, Kevin Adams. So, well, teams in Buffalo can do well. Okay, Sabres, when are you guys good? I just think that's probably got to be some of the sentiment. Is that, is it motivating? Is it good for the Sabers to see that winning can happen here? It can be done, that sort of thing.

I think it's good for the player to see how excited and crazy people get over the bills right now. And that can be them as well. that you know you do well. And that some stars are real happy to be in Buffalo. And they want to be there. They could go anywhere and be the better. No, I think it's great.

It helps out a lot. And for guys, I know the guys, friends with a lot of those guys, they interact because, you know, the same ownership. So there's a lot of interaction between them, which is great. And I think, but on the other hand, too,

the bills went 17 years and never made the playoffs. And then they got it going. And now, you know, you're riding it. So there's, it shows them, too, that, hey, you get to that point. It can be. Very, very good here. And when it's tough, it's tough.

The good thing is the bills are doing really well right now. So all the attention is on that. Sure. So the second the bills are done, it doesn't matter if you're doing well or not, all that attention will turn to you eventually, either after the Super Bowl or after this weekend or whenever it may be, you better be ready to go by that time that comes. Because instead of having one radio guy there and one newspaper guy

and maybe somebody, one other person, you'll have 30 people there from that point when they're finished until the end of the year instead of having three. He's on the fence. Where are you at with New Orleans? I mean, if they go on to the game? No, I lean towards not going only

because I heard that Super Bowls aren't that much fun anywhere. And it's expensive. Why would you want to go to a Super Bowl? If your team's in it? So what? Okay. You go to the Super Bowl. I'd rather go to Buffalo and watch.

Great. I would rather sit in. Buffalo in the middle with if they're in the Super Bowl with all the people. Yes. Instead of a handful. Well, because you go to the Super Bowl, how many actually

Buffalo people are there? I don't, a of half the building is Buffalo people. The rest are half whoever in corporate people. Maybe 20%. Yes. So they're not, it's, you want to be where the people are. I would, I would rather be with people.

Or men of the people. You are men of the people. Like if you don't think if there's a Super Bowl that, that even if they're reina at the Bill's stadium playing on the big up, won't they? I was going to ask, they would imagine seats for that. Absolutely. They do it for, yeah.

They would sell it out a second. People would all just be there, it'd be like a regular game day other than watching it on the board. Yeah. Because they're all together. You buy into all this referee stuff with the Chiefs. Is it real? Was it just people why?

Yeah, people bitch about referee and at every pro sports and ours too and come on. Just hope it doesn't happen this weekend. Just got a battle through it. If it happens, it happens. There's nothing. The Buffalo curse or whatever, it's not a curse,

but the fact that the way the Sabres and Bills have lost championships, how's it going to get worse? No. Wide right, no goal. Yeah. Four in a row, like. I'll tell you what, if the Bills or the Sabers ever do win, I don't care where you live in this country or states,

go to Buffalo for the party. Because it would be a month long. But I would be scared. I feel like that city would melt. Like it would just melt into the lake. Buffalo's different. They're mature. They know what's bad.

They're not going to be like Vancouver turning over cars, lighting thing on fire, you know, all the kind of stuff. No, we would appreciate it. Yeah. You said that.

What would a parade look like in Buffalo? I don't know. I don't even know where they'd have it. Where would they have it? What would it look like? I don't know. Never thought of it, really, but who cares? Yeah.

It's at the end of the parade where you'd want to be. Sure. To sit there and wait for, to get there. We went to the finals in 99. Okay, we lose. We go, like a day or so later, right in the middle of town. They had a state set up, and we're all, like, down and out. And we're like, yeah, we got to go to this thing.

The town, the city went. to put the, how many people were there? 30 plus thousand people. For us, we had just lost, and, you know, the guys were up down and out. We're like, what the, like, I mean, you couldn't fit any more people in this area. It was 30 plus thousand people. That's how excited they, and we lost. Yeah.

It's a cool thing about that city is you hear, oh, Detroit's Hockey Town, you see all these. Buffalo hasn't had a chance to flex how great they are. We see them going through tables. Wow. We hear about the heartbreak. but you've never been able to see them truly enjoy a championship. It's either going to be off the charts or there won't be a person on the street because they won't know how to act.

I was at the dinner last night. I said I don't think they make the playoffs this year, the Sabres. But when that team makes the playoffs again, just to make the playoffs. That building is going to go wild. Like that will be an intimidating place for another team to play. Absolutely. That building will be crazy.

We've experienced it. It's, it's, there's times it doesn't matter. If you get there, man, they're, they're there. So why is it taking so long? I thought when tuck came in, he's like, hey, I'm, I'm, this is where I want to be. I want to be a saber. It's like this team, they're starting to turn the corner. And they just haven't gotten there yet.

And it doesn't look like this year's the year either, potentially. you know you got a lot of younger guys you know it's there's don't give me that bullshit i'm doing why you don't put me in this book right why hasn't it happened uh what's the they haven't they don't play hard enough and they the goal tending is you don't know what like the ukapuka was unbelievable the second half last year wasn't he yeah you did from january i'll just say that in the league you needed exceptional goaltender i think the sabers offensively have good players but don't have they're kind of like the flames where you don't have a McKinnon

or one guy that two guys that just go I don't care we're going to win tonight I'll just hang on to the puck the whole game and take over I think they've got really good players but they don't have a superstar I think in the back end Dahlene is as close to a superstar as they have but it's tougher to have that influence and powers isn't where he needs to be yet And so power power or whatever.

Sorry, sorry, get it right. It would be interesting in those years that they have that top pick if it's not a D man. What if it's one of those, what if it's badard or what if it's a, out of like a generational forward? Well, I go was supposed to be that. McDavid was supposed to be that. That's the other thing for the people of Buffalo or NHL fans. Everyone forgets that they lost the frickin lottery.

Like they have McDavid. whole of the situation. Go back to Crossby. Yeah. It's completely. Sure. Buffalo. See, it's a Buffalo thing.

They're going to figure it out. Yeah. I think they're coming. They're coming. They've got to, I will say this. Part of the problem with the Sabres is, what's their identity? It's not super skill. It's not defensive.

It's not goal tending. You're right? Like, they don't have a strong identity. So how does that start? Who starts that? Is it the coach? is it a veteran. The coach can only say and do so much.

The team has to adopt. Do you think Rob Ray was a Buffaloia? There was an identity there. There was a type of... But we played, you know, there was years we struggled a little bit, but you were considered the hardest working team at hockey. You were going to battle. You were going to the odd.

Every night you were going to go. It didn't matter. You know, winner lose, you were going to go. You know, but I think it's something across the league now. Oh, for sure. struggle with it, but you talk to so many people in every team, and it's like they're trying to figure it up. The player has changed so much.

And doesn't it seem, you got kids that are good players, and you talk to them, and I know you talk to him because your kids play. And if you just go and finish checks in the offensive zone and chip puck's in, and stop. The game, the game has changed so much. It's all 1B1 now, and it's all skill. And it's like, you know, you talk doesn't work. Yeah, I know, but you talk to guys out there.

What do you look for when, you know, college guys, good, you know, hey, you know, everybody's so cookie cutter now. They're all small fast, and you just hope when you pick a kid, you get the right personality that he fits into a situation. I go, what if you got a big kid, you know, strong hits, goes to front of the net, responsible defensively, maybe kill penalties, physical.

We'd be lining up to sign them. They're not out there. So that's the situation. The whole hockey environment has changed from minor hockey all the way up through. So when you go to look for these kids, there's very few of them that can do it. It's tough seeing guys like Eichel move on with a cup, Reinhardt. Yeah, you can go back to, you know, in those cases, there's a lot of, for so many years, there was so many different coaches, general managers.

There was a couple general manager along the way that we had a pretty big war chest. And next thing you know, they're doing stuff and you got nothing left and nothing to show for it. Yeah. Maybe trying to be a little too overaggressive. you know, trying to. So, yeah, I don't know. I've never been in that situation to sit and try to figure out what's the best way to do or how to do it.

But it's just, I think, a lot of trial and error until you get that right person. And you got to remember, the league is so much younger now, too. Yes. Okay, we're one of the youngest teams in the league. I think average age, like 26 or something like that. You know, those 35 plus year guys that you would, in the past, would lean on to be your leaders to be the guys that show the way, you know, maybe, you know, ice time and that going down a little bit, but they're respected, they've been unsuccessful. They're not out there anymore.

So a lot of these guys are trying to figure it out on their own. And if you don't have that super, super leadership or those guys that have been there did it, it's hard sometimes because they got it through trial and error. You think it's still a situation for free agents where Buffalo is just a no-fly zone. No. Because I wonder if it's, that maybe it maybe I'm off and I don't think it's but I think it's more not sorry it has less to do with Buffalo and more to do with not being in the playoffs that that would be the harder sell for a player I think is I'm fine signing in Buffalo give me how are we getting to the playoffs like are we playing in the playoffs this year because I'm not going to Buffalo unless I'm getting way overpaid

just you know what I mean I think most players would probably like I'll go to Buffalo but but they're better be some direction here do i believe in the direction they're going as far as free agency yeah it depends on the age of the player you know situation of the player but you know okay winnipeg no i know there's a lot of places i don't even care some places that are nice weather they're not a team i'd want to play for you know but guys if if they're getting a contract they're getting just that what they feel they'll go anywhere and play Yeah. Because I was, I was going to say is if, if some of Bill's mania, if guys see, like, that town is frigging crazy. If they can see what kind of fans there are and that it's got to rub off.

And you're right. It's got to be winning at some point. And everybody's different. You've got guys that want to be in a big city. But that's not everyone. There's guys that just want a big contract. There's guys that just want to be on a winning team. There's guys that want to go somewhere because their wife doesn't want to go somewhere. They want to go somewhere quiet.

It's whatever. There's so many variables to it that to point at one thing and all, because you don't have this. Because Detroit's not a beautiful city necessarily, but guys were pretty happy to go there for a long time with a chance to win. You know what I found around the league? Everybody that's got a city that's tagged as, oh, it's not a great place to be. Any city you go into the city city, 90% of them suck. Well, some of these big cities aren't so great. No, and you walk outside five minutes, 10 minutes, 20 minutes outside of town.

It's the most amazing place you ever been. And I think that's the part. Like, you guys come into Buffalo, they get on the airport, they come down to 33 in the city. They don't see anything. No. They don't even see, you know, you can go 10 minutes to any direction, and you're the middle of the country, you're totally different world. Got the lakes. It's unbelievable.

And it's like that anywhere. It's like that in any city. So what about this year's Sabers? They were here tonight. Yeah, gone tomorrow. They were a big win in Vancouver the other night. How much of that was on the Canucks? Sounds like there's some stuff going on in Vancouver.

Yeah, but I heard in Vancouver too, a lot of that's being blown out of proportion a little bit. So what do you really know? I don't know. They're not winning a ton. No, seven wins the last 23 games, I think, for the Canucks. That's right. That's right.

Yeah, but what have we been? We had a little tough stretch there. No, our guys, tell you what when i guys are on and they play fast they play the pressure game of pressure down low pressure on the walls pressure everywhere awesome if if you're not being aggressive and winning those battles along the walls and your goal tendings not you know up to part then they can have some problems but when they're going it's like holy whoa this is great when it's not sometimes it can be oh my goodness what what just happened gacy middle

dad for Bowen Byron. Do it all. And Byram's awesome. Yeah. Casey Middlestat, what do they want to move him again? They're talking about not happy with him. Bowen Byron's an awesome guy, awesome player. Just a,

just an old boy that just loves the outdoors, hunting, fishing, and plays hard every night, plays through stuff. Nothing bothers them. Another name that's been out there trade-wise is cousins. And I don't know if that's really true if it's been out there. Me? I think because it's a big center.

and maybe not putting up the numbers that, but he's, he's so skilled, he's so fast, he's, I think as Dylan Cousins just gets a little bit more, I want to say hockey mature, not personally mature,

hockey mature, that he's, he's going to be a really good player because he's got to, and he wants to, and he's hungry and he's eager, and he wants to be good, he wants to win. You know,

sometimes young guys like this get big, deals and it carries an awful lot of pressure. Sure. And until somebody else signs that next deal, then you kind of forget about that guy. He, then he can settle in and play his game. Is he a guy that is a, if he reaches or gets, you know, that's, that's who Dylan cousin should be, like Max Potential kind of thing. Is he a big score? Is he, oh, he's, he can score. Yeah. Yeah, I know he can score because he's got a great shot. Very good penalty killer defensively like that. He does a good job with this. Um, but

offensively yeah you know he's big enough he can take the puck to the net he's he goes to the front of the net the guy he's said a good shot no he's got all the tools does he remind you of anybody it's always hard i'd heard somebody talk about a guy like gabriel landisg play in all situations guy can score big leadership qualities all that sort of thing i don't landis god really well to compare it to that but i mean he won a cop so that's what is I got lots of guys that won a cup I never have on my team

so this guy bought dinner last night or how I don't know who bought dinner but I know I didn't have to buy it Kenny Sutton was there Jeff Sanders Paulie Cruz brought the entertainment Georgia Babcock We really need to have Georgia come on one day

Oh my goodness We don't have to talk you just get them Just ask them one question And two hours later you'd be like shutting her down. It's awesome. This is a guy, like we talked about coming in,

but he's so passionate about the game. He loves to say everything about it. He would do anything for any guy in that room, and he has. He's done for both of us. And never expect anything. Just, I'll do it.

Whatever, if it, this makes things good, then I will do it. But, and he gets, he's got a great feel for when things are tough and they need to be loosened up a little bit, he'll do something so crazy off the wall that it's like,

you forget about everything that's going on. You're like, what the hell just happened? From lighting his hair on fire to, you know, smashing stuff to, you know, hurting himself to,

it's just awesome. Like, you couldn't have a better guy in a dress. He's all in. He's all in. And anything, you're talking team guy? He's an ultimate team guy.

He's an ultimate team guy. How's being on the road? Oh, the road's nice now. You were very happy not being on the road. You were not looking forward to having to travel. I had a little time off there over Christmas, and it was nice. So you give me a little chance to kind of recharge. I got a little time there.

So I took three or four years off. You'll be fine with going on the road once the younger kid is out of the house, and you're not driving to my hockey. I'm guessing that you still miss. I miss this. My kid got hurt. And just before Christmas, so he punctured his spleen skiing.

So we're in the hospital, whatever. So I took the time off. And it was a great week because a kid that our kids, Brett and I's kid played with, his mom passed away. They go to their funeral. Right after funeral, my wife drives to Ellicottville,

gets rear-ended turning into Tim Hortons, tears a bumper off of a barrenue truck, drives from Tim Hortons, drops my kid off at the ski hill and goes to our house. 20 minutes later, she gets a call that he punctured his spleen. We spent the next week in Children's Hospital with him. We're going for Chris. Christmas. My daughter goes to Hawaii. She's not around. And then my wife has to go to Roswell,

which is a cancer hospital on the 26th, has a procedure, comes out. And I'm like, great holiday. This is an awesome. And it was like, we were heading to St. Louis Vegas. I don't know what it was. And I'm like, get me the hell out of here. I got to get on the road. I was never so happy to get back on the road again. So, recharged. I just threw something into the drive there. I'm not sure, because obviously your boy's not playing but somebody just got out sometimes out of the woodwork things show up um how's so what's the boy gonna see uh is he gonna make the start skating again when's skating on tuesday yeah he's got to start skating the show yeah no no our our ultimate big plan is find a rich girl like it's a hockey whatever you know we have fun playing hockey yeah

but we're really really it's coming to the point 16 now driving it's like dude We're going to start finding one here. Even if you get hooked up with her now, just be friends that, you know, in mid-20s that, no, you got to marry money. That's 16. Find one in the mid-20s. Yeah, if you wait.

If you wait too long, all your other buddies have gone through that and you don't want to go to something that. And so you've got to kind of just keep it on the side. Sure. So for you, you got married at the end of your career? I was like 35, 34. So were you guys together a long time? A year.

Is she a Buffalo girl? Yeah. So she. So this is Rob Ray. No, she had no idea. Really? She really has no idea. When I came home and I said, and when I came home and said, hey, I'm done playing, I'm finished.

She goes, she never said, oh, that's great. She goes, does that mean I don't have to go to the rank anymore? And I go, yep, she's like, that's awesome. And so, and then it's only been the last year that she actually figured out hockey watching our kid. as long as she has that now she's turned into like the ultimate hockey mom knows everything about it a lot of opinion because that's pretty rare i would think to live in this city like buffalo and not be into hockey or not have a i i found a sheltered one yeah she found something though no no this is the luckiest girl in town yeah she i tell her that every day yeah uh this this

got dropped off yesterday i don't know if this this may not even be the same team but i'm supposed to share this with at least you retro. You can play it, Jack. There is play by play underneath it, but this looks like it's some overtime. This is the junior coyotes and the junior safe. Now they play it back to him.

By one Darcy Hortichot. No, we were playing against them. So this must have been this last weekend, maybe in shot. High over the net. What was it in Scots? Bring it in.

I wasn't there. So if we lose, it's because... Yeah. He gets bad coaching. Whoever was on the bench that day for this group. It was just bad coaching. Yeah. Hornetschuk says, from losing to these guys 9-1 to beating them this weekend,

tell Warner the coyotes are back. The coyotes are back. Well, there was no Warner and there was no raid in that lineup. So that's maybe why he got the upper hand. Is that his bullshit? You know what? We got to, hey, you know who you listening to back home? Your biggest fans?

Georgie Sweet. Oh, Georgie, he's text. Georgie Sweetland. I told him yesterday that was going to dinner and then doing this. He's like, oh, tell rat, I said alone. Yeah. We got to get. I think Georgie Sweetland is like, you're all.

George is one of the few fellows that has researched and brought some of our origin here. Maybe I should take some home. We should. We should. We can set you up. We can set you up. He's a beautiful man. So do you miss, Rett, be having read around?

Oh, yeah. Not really. The guy that moved into the house that he was in is actually hooking me up with a few things that. Some medical procedures. Medical procedures that could help along the way. So it was nice. But the guy that moved in, he's got this dog. And it's really crippled up and it's blind.

And so I didn't know who the guy was when he first moved in. I'm watching this dog. And he was trying to go up the little three stairs and get up two and fall back down. Go up, fall back down. I'm like, something wrong? Like what? I'm so like, I just, the guy was out there. And I'm like, hey, dude, you better help this dog get up the stair.

And he, and we got talking, but he's blind and, and crippled. But the poor thing was trying to get up. I go, I'll come over and I'll build a ramp for you. Yeah. So it'll come up and you'll be able to get on the deck. So I was feeling bad. Not a big dog lover, but I was, I felt that. He had dogs.

Your dogs. I got one now. I got one now. Yeah, we last one. Yeah. That was about a $20,000. His kids swimming in a bull? no they're they're really they moved they just moved in so it's kind of georgie there

messaging in right there is he georgie i bet you george i miss red yeah well george i haven't seen you in a month either we'll see maybe he missed you too um because it was good we get the old rob ray update he'd be like shoveling his sidewalk or cutting lawn or whatever with your tarp off just kind of keeping us in the in the loop as far as what you're up to back there. It was nice. Well, that's the problem with, well, when he was a part of it too, these guys,

I snow blow, I caught grass, I take care of it. And not one does anybody ever say, hey, here's five gallons of gas, you know, keep going, or here's a cigar, here's a drink, you know, it's like, you just do it. You know, you just do it. Yeah.

Shelbur just enjoyed watching your barbecue and your gitch. So that was a... I don't mind going outside of my underwear. My son, my son will walk by three bathrooms in the house to go to the front or back door to take a leak. And like, like, why you do that? It's a waste of time. I just like it. Yeah, but it walks past it.

Like, so you never know what you're going to see around our house sometimes. I seem to remember there is a kind of, you think it'd be bad if we showed Robert in his, uh, yeah, probably, probably shouldn't put that on the internet. Rob, barbecue and no, got you to get that and add to it. Get very excited. Well, we'll take a break. I was waiting for a break. Sorry.

Hey, we don't get you often. And, you know, again, this is emotional. Very happy for you, very deserving. Am I done now? You don't need to be. Whatever you want to do. Okay. But we're happy for you.

We talked about it for a long time. You know what they should do is they put Razor in the Hall of Fame. And now you and RJ are there, and that is awesome. Yep. Very cool. Thank you. Uh, what do you know, have what the, because it's next weekend, right? Yeah.

Friday, do I have a plan or what? Do you know what they're doing or? I still have to work that night. I got five minutes, say what I gotta say and, and go over to get in between the benches and go to work. Who's gonna replace you? They can't. It's such, they tried.

Marty did those games that I was talking about. Terrible. Couldn't understand a word he was saying. So, how is Marty Barron? Marty's great. Yeah. Marty's beautiful. Everyone loves Marty.

Everybody loves. All the women love. because of his eyes. Like those cat eyes, those really funny colored eyes. Yeah. And they don't even listen to him. They just, his eyes,

like put him in a trance or something like that. Yeah, I saw him. Tell us. And you can only, and talk. Yeah. You read his stuff on Twitter and you only hear it in his voice.

Tell me what you think. The best Rob Ray memories, that whole thing. Yeah. And then he'll ask me again today. He'll say, oh, we went on Twitter and,

you know, this is what they say. And I don't my God. Okay, yeah, whatever. And I never tells me ahead of time. So I'm like, react. You just got to react to it. And it's like, okay, yeah, that was great.

I don't appreciate talking about myself too much. I tried to at home and my wife and kids put me down so bad that I just learned a lesson just to shut up. So are you going back for Razor night? Yep. As long as I get to talk. I want to say a few words. Do you? No.

No. Mazy's doing it. Brad is. Oh, well. We were going to ask Barney, but we're afraid what he might say. So it's tough. At least Maisie, you can control him a little bit more. He's a little bit more responsible.

Yeah, I saw Barney on, on X or Twitter. It's a good thing. I don't work for the team like Razor because I don't know if I'd be able to hold it in anymore. He needs well. He's a good man. He's a good boy. All right. We'll take a quick, just a quick break.

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