Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Sign Him Or Trade Him?? The Andersson Decision Is Coming 🔥 Ft. TSN's Darren Dreger | BB Clips

Starting point is 00:00:00 Michael Matheson re-ups in Montreal, and that's another name off the board of a potential defenseman rental. John Carlson's out there. He's longer than the two. He's a career capital. I don't know how real that is. I'm starting to try to- Great year, though, man. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:00:23 Carlson. They love him and he's a career cap. I don't know that's something that happens. But I guess what I'm trying to get to is where does this leave Rasmus and the market for defensemen this year? Because he's really good of late. He made another great play last night on the. the first goal for the flames and is on a really good heater after a tough October. Well, and look, this is interesting to me.

Starting point is 00:00:44 And it's probably a poker game. But neither side wants to officially say that, all right, the ship has sailed here in Calgary. There is zero chance of an extension. We're just waiting out for the best opportunity to move a valued asset across the league in Rasmus Anderson. Other side is, I mean, why would you show your hand? I get that. I've been around a long, long time.

Starting point is 00:01:05 But does that mean that the door has officially, closed on that possibility of extending Anderson. It does to me, but nobody that matters has said that with any sort of official context. So, you know, I think if you're Craig Conroy, you're happy that these guys are signing. You know, Ryan McDonough gets the extension. You know, I can't imagine John Carlson plays anywhere else but Washington. Mike Matheson, yeah, re-ups. He's an important piece of the Montreal Canadians and what they're building there.

Starting point is 00:01:36 So that just shrinks the pool for Asmus Anderson in a big, big way. So, you know, the game of poker, as far as Conroy is concerned, will continue to get played. Until he kind of says, all right, we're not entirely sure when we're going to move him. We know the jury deadline is March 6th. We know that there's a trade freeze during the Olympics, February 4th to 22nd. We know there's a holiday roster freeze, which kicks in December 19th. So those are the parameters that we're working with. But I don't believe that that messaging is out there in the sense of,

Starting point is 00:02:13 okay, send us the best offer you have. Sure, there's been lots of tire kicking and managers consistently in Conroy's here. I'm sure there have been parameters of deals that have been offered and all of that. But I don't believe, basically, guys that I'm talking to that Craig Conroy has established, okay, here's exactly what I need. And here's the timeline that I'm working. on to get it up. It's got to be in the driver's seat to a certain extent.

Starting point is 00:02:41 He has to know what Anderson wants, doesn't he? Yeah. And at the end of the day, you can, if I'm playing make-believe in my own brain, where I'm like, okay, if I know Anderson wants, 10 million a year for seven, okay, well, I know that. I'm just making it up. And then I can look at, okay, here's the return. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:58 What's better? Yeah. And what you allude to is dealing him with an extension, either agreed to or set to be in place versus just a rental, because those are two. two different deals. No, no, I'm saying keeping them. I think the flames are still in the business of kick of tires on keeping Rasmus Edgson.

Starting point is 00:03:14 Yeah. Then I would agree with that. I don't think that that, I don't think they're going to go. I think they're going to say, okay, I can either play Rasmus 10. And again, I'm just making up a BS number. I'm going to pay him 10 and keep them and we've got our defenseman. Or I'm getting a first and a prospect. Right.

Starting point is 00:03:33 I think that's the man. I don't think, I mean, the extension and trade, whatever, but I think it's more, do I want to keep him? Yeah. Or do I want the return? And to some degree, maybe it's out of your hands too, right? I mean, obviously Rasmus Anderson is final say. But, you know, things don't improve. And we've talked about this before.

Starting point is 00:03:55 Like, I'm a broken record on this. I mean, Nazim Qadri likes Galgary. His family likes Calgary. You know, he wants to continue. He's got a contract to play. in Calgary. But he also wants to win a Stanley Cup. And, you know, so even though, again, I've talked about this,

Starting point is 00:04:12 Edwards does not want to trade Nazim Codry or, you know, that leadership group, all of a sudden you get into the early 2026 and things aren't looking great. And you know you're a non-playoff contender, which could be the case, right? Like, you know, maybe NAS comes out and says, hey, you know what? If it's going to improve your team moving forward, here's where I'd like to go. Here's a couple of these. And if that were to happen,

Starting point is 00:04:40 all right, well, now the picture gets a little bit more cloudy with Rasmus Anderson. Okay, well, if we're willing to trade NAS, then obviously it's in our best interest

Starting point is 00:04:50 to renovate and trade Anderson and get this collection of younger pieces back. I don't think they want to trade. I don't, yeah, I'm with you. I think if they had their jettlers right now, they would sign him if the math was.

Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah, the challenges is a gap in the money. Like 20 million bucks is what we'd heard this summer. Like the difference between seven times six or nine times eight is a lot of money. Yeah. Yeah. It's 72 versus 4.2. It's 30 million bucks. That's a huge gap.

Starting point is 00:05:18 Well, then that's where Carrick Conroy earns his check, right? So he goes to the agent and says, okay, and maybe he's done this already. I need your best and final. Like, you know, is there any wiggle? room because we're not going to do what happened with Mika Ranton and the Colorado avalanche. You know, if you're willing to negotiate, okay, let's have that discussion. But, you know, what's your best and final?

Starting point is 00:05:45 And if you can't stomach that, if you can't live with that, well, then the decision is made for you, isn't it? Yeah, and they had those conversations this summer, but you're right, it changes and it's different. It's a different. It's coming off injury and the cap. The cap, clarity is different. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah. And I don't think Rasmus Anderson's desperate. The other side of it, I don't think he's one of those. guys, there were a few guys that were here years ago that were like, get me the I was just going to say. I don't think Rasmus is that way. It's such a different. Rasmus would be, I'll move to get what I want.

Starting point is 00:06:13 But I don't think he's. I agree. And the agent's got to be thinking, like, look at this UFA class shrinking. Like my guy has become more valuable. He's playing better and these other potential D are resigning. Like, I don't know the Rasmus number is just shrinking right now. Yeah, it'd be hard to build a case why he would be a, entice to take a hometown discount to trim his number whenever the

Starting point is 00:06:35 world and rewards may be making more correct and it's not like it's like oh we're going to be in the cup final the next three years no you're not there yeah the advantage you have if you're the calgary flames is is obvious you put that mega contract in front of him all right well that's guaranteed money sitting right in front of you you know you're going to take it continue doing what you're doing yes 100% that's all we're asking you to do And, you know, look, I mean, the sign and trade, it happens. It's not unusual. It's not the easiest thing in the world to pull off.

Starting point is 00:07:13 But, you know, it can be. But then you get to free agency and you've got a smaller contract term to work with and all of those things. You know, if Calgary is serious about trying to keep Rasmus, I would think that they would get at it sooner rather than later. and make him look at the enormacy of that contract and the generational money that he would make by taking it now and see. But look, players more than ever also are willing to bet on themselves. There is some risk.

Starting point is 00:07:47 There's a bit of a gamble, right? Injury included. You know, what happens? God forbid, knock on what it doesn't. Something goes completely awire late in the year. You know, maybe people second guess when you get into free agency. but we'll see.

Starting point is 00:08:02 Based on the pool of unrestricted free agents, Ryan, to your point, he's going to have his pick of the letter and it'll be the usual suspects who are at the front of the line. Yeah.

Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Sign Him Or Trade Him?? The Andersson Decision Is Coming 🔥 Ft. TSN's Darren Dreger | BB Clips

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