Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - #StanleyCupFinal Game 2 Ft. TSN's Darren Dreger | FN Barn Burner - June 6th 2025

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

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Oh, buddies. Here we go with the Friday edition. It's the, I'll start here with the, Bet365 presenting sponsor of Barnburner. Download the app, get into the game, official partner of the Stanley Cup playoffs, must be 19 or older. Whatever your bet is, it's never ordinary.

At Bet, 365. And they are live, which means the Super Chat is also ready to roll. Youth Centers of Calgary could benefit from your donations. you put a comment in along with a little cache. We'll send the money over to the youth centers of Calgary and put your comment on the show. Friday is Hawaiian shirt day.

So, you know, if you want to, go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans. Here we go. This is my pineapple one. I'm very happy about it. I need to find one. I was actually thought of it this morning. And pineapples? I love pineapple.

It's kind of a solid of a. kind of a signal of sorts. It's like a bat signal. I worry about Jack's generation because I'm hearing a lot of noise about them not liking pineapple on pizza. When did that become a thing? Everyone loves pineapple.

Everyone loves sweet and salty. Why is this all of a sudden controversy? I think the key to the pineapple and the pizza, the saving factor and probably for Jack's generation, will be the addition of the hot honey. Oh. Because when you do that, it's that's called elevating.

It's elevating. You know what are you going to the playoffs? You got to elevate your game. That's elevating your game right there. I had a Hawaiian pizza last night with halpinos on it. That's some honey sauce. You're there. Yeah, I think that the pineapple on pizza debate has raged for a long time.

Why? What's so controversial? Everyone likes pineapple. Everyone likes pizza. Put it on your sandwich. Why don't you put pineapple on your sandwich? If it was hanging around and sliced, I would. Oh, you know, it doesn't like pine.

It doesn't like water on. I'll not of yesterday. Dave Dickinson. Good luck to the stamps this weekend. Get a win. Hey, Jack and I are going tomorrow. Are you really? I'm going to railroad this guy tomorrow.

Jack, do you trust him? No, not at all. Is it one of those? We're going to go to the game together and then thanks. Audio. No, no, that's a little. The locker room after the game. I'm going on.

All right, Jack's here. Yeah, he'll be hugging Nick Lewis on the sidelines. I'll be dabbing up Nick Lewis. Doug. Uh, but. Friday. Nice day out there. It is. It's going to be. Yeah. Nice day out there. Some beach volleyball in. Really? Oh. Some digging and spiking.

Bopset spike. Yep. Damn right. Don't play against Regiers kid. He's real good. That's what I've heard. He's tall. Does he have length? Is that what got a lots of six, five, six. Jeez. That would do it. Buffalo. Yeah, Buffalo. Yeah, that would do it. And it walks. What a combo they would be on the court.

Mm-hmm. Was he a good bumper and a spiker? He's definitely a digger. He's a little barrel. Yeah, he is for sure. So what? It could be a, my buddy beef. We had them by way of telephone yesterday.

There's a lot of people to watch. I'm in there. I had just tons of people reaching out. So many people, they were, I just can't believe how many people were talking about it. It's a lot of mustard. Yeah. I said, did you see at the end of the show?

the text about the guy, somebody said you came to their wedding and brought your own HP? I know who that is. Yeah, yeah, I'm aware. That's the most recent wedding I think I've been to. It could be one of eight people. Yeah. Because yesterday was kind of a fog.

I don't, like, you don't remember? Well, beef was on. Yeah. Talk about food, probably. We talked about a lot of stuff. Huh. I don't know. Right to you?

just as a refresher. We can go back. This is some of yesterday's show. It's fine. It's all right. Hello. We're aft. We're absolutely screwed.

100% F. the fact of the matter is these pricks up to north are probably going to do it. It sucks. I hate it. And yes, we've got another decade of them continuing to be good. We don't have any stars to go up against them. I've never said this. Gary, we need another fucking lock.

Yes. Let's go. I'm down. with this. We need a strike. I don't need me as labor peace nonsense. I need this derailing

whatever they're doing just like it derailed you guys in 0405. Where the F is COVID when you need it? SARS? Avian flu? We need something.

We need something. God. Damn. Dean. Dean. It is not good. Well, at least they're really

going to drag us out for about three weeks. Yeah, let's just pause and play. Gary build up the anticipation. Did you see how excited those jerks were? Yeah, because those mouth breathers have been watching the best player toil for a decade. And they finally surrounded him with enough okay parts.

And a good coach. Okay. So we're all, that's a rare moment on the show where we agreed. That's a consensus. That's kind of like your radio air check. Sometimes you, when you're in it, you don't really right hmm how did that go i think about but i hear it again well but we weren't that there was more i guess well we're on the food probably two-hour show and what the eff are you

doing with an orange jetty cooler you wore an orange shirt yesterday like come on it was on sale shame on you shame on both of you could you look at the pain you brought us right it's true you know what that's the solace you can have is i'll tell you what i'm not wearing tomorrow and you're not drinking out of there's no effing orange crush bs it was going well you have what you wanted after 40 looked real good 3-1 lead three one tidy three ones i had to do a puzzle i was so stressed literally doing a puzzle of italian wine regions okay okay clear the puck badly kill okay i was sitting there and i was playing that game on my phone where you have like the black hole and you gather up stuff and then the holes you know that i don't know play games in my home i don't know

So I play us the game's on my daughter's like oh did you see that no I didn't see anything what do you do what are you doing can't watch this shit why is it on I because I got to watch this shit you just said you can't watch it exactly to go to your room the puck over glass penalty is so dumb stupidest stupidest penalty ever dumb and the whistles were put away hands are tied got to got to do it whistles have been retired for the night they're done we're not needing these miss the day miss a lot we handled it well all things considered jack did we do okay yeah that was really good sometimes you have to power through right hmm like the panthers to power through something here let's go yeah good work and you nice love it good outfits boys taking the

appropriate measures yeah is to try and avoid another such catastrophe as what happened to fucking nights ago. That's heads are falling off. Now, inside some point, the Florida Panthers may want to, you know, Paul, this maybe falls on there at their feet. 31 and 0, big win tonight. Oh, what an answer it would be, eh? Yeah.

Hey, steal home ice. Let's go. Rar! Oh. Rar! That's what's happening tonight. Get a pound. That's my panther impression.

In case you know, I play that. It's kind of like explaining the joke. It's not really good. I just want that clear. I wasn't sure. Sorry to have to do that. Are you right? It's a first thing.

The whole thing you were sitting. Jeez. Other hockey news today. We had a shit canning today. It's always good when there's something to happen. Fridays are good for. We had a shit canning in the NHL today. Friday is the day you get fired.

Yeah. That is a firing day. You ever get one of those like 2 p.m. meetings on a Friday, you're getting fired. Yeah. Well, remember, let's, well, here, yeah, well, first we'll see what happened. And then what we heard, uh, this is going back again, if, frigging Dallas would have done anything.

Anyway, the whole thing of how many things would be different? Well, this guy's life. Yeah, it would still be, yeah, it would still things would be a butterfly. So this was going back to, uh, the Dallas Edmonton series. This is the elimination game for Dallas. Pete DeBoar decides I'm taking Jake Ottinger out. It's two nothing. In time you get Casey DeSmith in.

Hall's a timeout. Ottinger's going back to the Nets. Like, hey, where are you going? Oh, dear. Oh, what? Hey, Jake. Get over here. Grab a seat by Ferraro.

You're done. Yes. And didn't pull him for two minutes or five minutes. It was the rest of the game. DeSmith went in, allowed the next shot to go in, and they lose the game and the series. And DeBore was asked post-game about the decision on the goalie swap and just his rationale behind it.

This is what he had to say. A goal goalie, you know, the reasoning's always to try and spark your group. So that was the number one reason. You know, we had talked endlessly in this series about trying to play with the lead. And obviously, we were in a two-nothing hole right away. And, you know what, I didn't take that lightly and I didn't blame it all. Jake, but you know, the reality is, is if you go back to last year's playoffs, you know, he's lost six to seven games to Edmonton, and we gave up two shots on two goals in a, you know, an elimination game. So, you know, it was partly to spark our team and wake them up. And partly, you know, knowing that, you know, status quo had not been working. You know, and that's, that's a pretty big sample size.

So that was post game. He, at his year end, media availability, said, you know, Jake, he's very good, but you, Jay, trying to, things have blown over it over. This morning, Jim Nill, GM of the Stars. After careful consideration, we believe that new voices needed in our locker room to push us closer to our goal of winning the Stanley Cup. We'd like to thank Pete for everything that he has helped our organization achieve

over the last three seasons, wish him nothing worth the best, a shit canning. Did they get him a taxi or a personal, car. No, they don't do it. No. Well, you got to do any other guy. So yeah, Dallas firing Pete DeBoer this morning, who over the last three seasons, no NHL team has a better regular season record than the stars. They had 50 wins this year, three straight Western Conference Finals, and he is out of work. Five or six years, he's been to the Western Conference Final. Yeah. So we segue. Good time to have our TSN Hockey Insider on the Crystal Waters.

insider hotline crystal waters plumbing and heating crystal clear choice for home comfort 403 219 4100 crystal clear calgary dot com 10% of that new AC year one year of free preventative maintenance coming along with that as well darren dribb from tsn joins us dregs good morning uh this little juicy nugget coming i i mean in a way surprise not shock shock not surprised i know how to characterize it but it was I'll let you just kind of walk us through it because there's some layers to it. Yeah, there definitely is. I'm a little bit surprised you as based on the timing, right? But I'm also appreciative of the Dallas Stars, ownership and management, taking their time to make sure that this decision is the right one in the best interest for the club. You know, Pete DeBore has one more year remaining on that contract.

So it would have been easy to try and execute some changes to the roster, which they're going to do anyway. but to just let it play out. I mean, we know that Pete DeBore is a good coach. Good man. Stubborn? Oh, boy. He's stubborn.

And I think that that stubbornness, at least in some way, shape or form, probably got the better of them in this case, right? You wonder about the exit meetings with the players and the message that some most delivered. I don't think, I wouldn't expect any of those guys, aside from Jake Godinger, bury him. I know the veteran guys have high praise for Pete DeBore, his approach,

how he managed the team, all of that. So he's a winning coach. There's no doubt. But then you do look at his track record. And that's where it gets a little surprising now that he's been let go by the Dallas Stars because, you know, Vegas hires coaches to win Stanley Cups. You know, they gassed Gerard Gallant in favor of Pete DeBore because Pete DeBore was available. and they felt like he was a better coach. Cutthroat, sure. But they felt like Pete DeBore was the coach that they needed to win a Stanley Cup. All right.

Well, then Bruce Cassidy is available. He's the guy that's going to help us win a Stanley Cup. But he does at the expense of Peter DeBore. He's hired in Dallas. Again, the Dallas starts thinking, well, this guy's decorated. He's got a resume as long as our arm. You know, he'll be able to take us to the Stanley Cup final. And I can tell you,

and every team that maybe gets into, you know, the conference semifinals, which is insane a lot. I mean, there's so much hockeyer at the midpoint. But any of those teams, like the Toronto Maple Leafs, go down on the list. I mean, they still feel like they should be in the Stanley Cup final. But I can assure you the Dallas Stars are watching and getting ready for game two tonight between Edmonton and Florida. And they think they should have won the Western Conference.

They do. They do. And they're not hanging at all on Pete DeBoer. but there's an element of the stubbornness decisions that were made, all of that, that 100% factored into the decision ultimately that they made yesterday. Retro, you had kind of said with just how murky all of this kind of was, is Jake Oettinger, is he kind of, like, where's the room?

It felt off. Something felt off. Yeah. So this feels like kind of a clear message that some guys in that room were not, obviously, there's layers. you pulled Jake, didn't put our lives on the line with Casey to Smith, whatever. And then you threw one of our guys. You could have just under the bus.

You didn't need to do that post game. It feels like a bit of a message. Yeah. There's some solidarity within that room. Yes, I think that's a good sign that there may be a solidarity, but it's easy to rally behind a guy you don't like. And I don't know if they don't like them. But my question, Drags would be Babcock was renowned as being the greatest coach to ever walk the earth.

Yeah. but I always and I don't think he was a bad coach or bad person not talk about it but there's coaches that get put into situations that are a lot easier to succeed in than Adom's going into San Jose last year. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. Sometimes the you can these resumes oh this guy's a world class coach well is he in real easy not easy but good spots with teams that can succeed. Yeah.

He's a product of that and And this latest one, for me anyway, how many times you get let go of good teams where you can't, like, something doesn't, the smell test is not passing. Yeah. And I think that's fair, Red. I do. And if I were an owner in the league and I was looking at replacing my coach and Pete DeBore's name was thrown at me, I would do the investigation. I would find out, okay, what do you think he's missing? And one team will help another.

I mean, everybody's got relationships with clubs. And, you know, maybe they're not giving you all of the dirty, dark secrets and all of that. But what was missing there? You know, and sometimes it's not just one guy. It's the bench. And I'm not hanging Steve Spot Out to Dry here. And I do think Elaine Nazardy has the potential of being a good NHL coach, head coach. I mean, that's kind of the mark on him.

But like so many, especially of the veteran coaches, they always like to have at least one of their guys. And Steve's spot has gone with Pete DeBore basically every single job, right? Like, I mean, they're joined at the hip. So how much of that is the influence? You know, I not take it over to the Stanley Cup final, but I do see a difference in how Paul Maurice would use his assistant coaches as opposed to Chris Knoblock,

who we know uses his coaches in Gulletson. and especially Paul coffee and that defense. So I, you know, again, the feedback on social media was, well, this is just age old. Here's a good coach. You can't fire all the players. So it's easy to just throw this guy to the side. Well, it is, but I say the same thing every time. And I appreciate what you're saying, Rhett, and to back down, to back up what I just said,

I would want to find out why, you know, talk to people. Why isn't he able? He can win game sevens. You can help you win game sevens, but why isn't he able to get you back to the Stanley Cup final? Find out what that is. And if you believe that there's an issue, okay, well, then you move on to the next guy. But if you're the Dallas Stars now, what are you looking at? You know, you've fired a good coach.

Who's better? Available right now? That's the first thing I thought of, Dregs. It's like, that's commendable for Jim Nill. It got the players backs and this. Okay, so you fired the coach. You've gone to three straight Western Conference. finals.

So now, a lot of winning. The next coach is probably less tenured. Yeah. It's hard to imagine, right? Everyone's going to be less tenured than him, right? So it's like, okay. So you put your team first, but now are you put, what are you doing, hiring a coach? It's a window to win, right?

The next coach isn't as good. Yeah, but it's a window to win. I don't want to downplay the importance of a coach because I think a coach can be highly influential, but this is a veteran team. Yeah. Right? You're kind of just, you've got the bumper pads up with this group. Don't you? Come on, voice.

Let's work. You're trying to inspire and motivate. You're not teaching them how to play the game. These guys are veterans. Yeah. And I do think the way the season ended, contributed mightily into the decision that management and ownership have made here. And not because they lost to the better team, the Edmonton owners. I mean, if this series goes six or seven,

in games, maybe Pete DeBore is still coaching. If that Ottinger situation doesn't happen, and I agree, coming into the segment, you guys walked us through it, we played the clip of Pete DeBore post game, that's what got him. Yes. That's what got him. Coaches make changes like that, not all the time, but they do. And as he started, yeah, in essence, it was to try and spark his team.

The guy gave up two goals on two shots. So you pull the goalie, all right. Well, I think most of us watching thought, okay, this is going to be short. Like he's, you know, he's made his point. He's going to put Roger back in the net. And then he doesn't. You go into the intermission. And I'm surrounded by goalies at T's.

And they're like, he's probably going to put him back in the net for the next period. And then he doesn't. And I think that that supports the stubbornness that I'm talking about. And I think that goal that's the Babcock field. That's the stubbornness. I think he felt like there was enough egg on his face that if he puts on because Casey, I think he was questioning whether he should do it to begin with.

There was maybe some justification for pulling him, but most of us, the four of us were not NHL coaches. I'm probably leaving him in because Jake Ottinger is our guy. Agreed. Yeah, it's not a platoon. It's Ottinger and dismiss. You can call the timeout, rip your team,

get your heads out of your ass, let's get going. And you leave Ottinger in. Okay, so he doesn't. And then he pulls Ottinger and they score on to Smith. Yeah. And that stubborn to miss comes in is like, F, I effed up. I'm going to stick to it and just swallow it.

That's what it looked like to me. Because I agree with you. I think he was one. The only catch for that is I think he was 100% going to put Ottinger back in. I never understood the time out. To tell me, call the goalie. Yeah, yeah. And that, right?

Like it didn't anyway. That was also part of it. Ottinger's skating back to the cranes and then gets hauled back. And who is that on, right? Like, you know, I mean, you would think, you know, Casey DeSmith is out there. He knows what's going on. Like, one of the assistants. Was he on the ice though?

Where's the backup? No, I'm actually serious. Was Casey DeSmith on the edge? Because if you are going in as the backup goal, and you've wasted the time out as a time to get, you know, it's not a lot of time anyway. That's right. That's a, they call it 30 seconds. It's at least a minute if you're on the ice loosening up. Yeah.

I never saw him on the ice. No, I mean, he knew, DeSmith knew, but there was a lot going on there. And, and, like, at end of the day, I believe, and, you know, Jim Nill is going to face the music here. Maybe has he already spoke to the media? I don't know, but he's going to, somebody's got to ask, okay, it wasn't just the poll. But then, as we've heard, post game, you know, he, he really. rolls over this guy and you got seven years left on that contract with Jake Hunter like all right well which way is this going to go you know so I think that that was a

contributing factor for sure so not just trying to do the right thing by staying in the bench sure yeah I don't know hold on I got my ball cap on all this is good nothing to see here hiding in plain sight but now again we we've just had what seven eight teams you know go through the the the coach search um you know, so Peter Laviole is available. I mean, it does feel like Dallas needs some experience. Torrts to me anyway, right? Yeah, you've got torts.

There's plenty of coaches out there. I got a name for you. What about Jay Woodcroft? Because I feel like a lot of things being said about Chris Knoblock now, which is a lot of praise, we're said about Jay Woodcroft until the Oilers did one of those midwinter fogs that we've seen a lot from them in the regular seasons. Frankly, don't matter.

he was very highly regarded. It was his only head coaching job on his resume. But before things went south with like 80 goaltending, everyone thought he was a great coach. Like, where's he at it? Would that be a guy you'd have on a short list? Well, I mean, the list is only as long as you want it to be. And it gets longer when you're looking at, you know,

the American League, you're looking internally at what you have. Yeah, you're looking at the guys who've been shortlist. Like I don't know how many teams Woodcroft interviewed with, but more than a couple. Like at least three, at least. So what about those teams didn't mesh with Jay Woodcroft or vice versa? And I feel like given the level of experience Dallas has, like Dallas is a bench where you've got to have presence as a head coach, in my opinion. You got to have some swagger. You do.

At least it feels that way. Labby has that. But, you know, and I'm not throwing Woodcroft under the bus. He's a very cerebral type of coach. But if you're going down that path, I mean, then you throw out, you know, I'm hearing Derek Lalone's name out there in relation to maybe other jobs like assistant or associate jobs, you know, his teams are looking at that now. You know, could he be a potential fit?

You know, Glenn Gullison once was in Dallas. I mean, you know, there's a guy that should, should get another look as an NHL head coach. Does he love? I don't know. I don't know. You said it. Like that's the one thing. We saw Glenn up close to.

I think he's a real sharp guy. Yeah. But there are guys that you're like, he's going to be a better assistant than a head coach. And maybe he's been unfairly painted that way, but that's kind of feels like it. Right. I mean, it's maybe unfair. It doesn't. You know what, though?

I know what. Go ahead. Texas. You want somebody that's got that kind of maybe a guy that put on some cowboy boots, drive a pickup truck, wear a a call and shirt. You know, Longhorns on the front of the truck. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, maybe you're. born in Alberta, you kind of have that push a guy over the yeah dust off one of the Sutter brothers and get them out there right now. Let's go. We're job. You have six Sutter. I think to me that team looks like a team that they need to

I think they're really good, but I didn't think they played that hard. I agree. Like to me it was they were not going. Right. Whether they're beat up or tired, I don't know what it was and maybe they didn't like the coach. I have no clue. To me, that group looks like a group of guys that need someone

they really want to play for it. They're excited to play for this. It's making it fun and we're enjoying it. Go, go, go. That's the other thing, too, is it's been three trips to the Western fun. So, I mean, this is maybe the straw that breaks the camels back, but you might have been ready for a change regardless,

despite how great the record. And the lame duck status plays in for sure. But I'm with you. Like, it wasn't like, I think the disappointment in Dallas has a lot to do with, like, it just didn't look like their best effort. Lack of intensity. Like, if you played your best and. and lost. Okay, but it just didn't ever feel like that in the series.

No, I'm with you. You know, Tyler Sagan started the series strong, obviously the breakaway goal. He had a couple in one game. And then he went quiet. You know, Robertson took him a long time to find his legs and his scoring touch. He came online as the series developed later. Mika Rattman, you know, was hit or miss in that. I mean, go down the list. Go down the list. they are smallish up front, to be fair. I mean, Rattan isn't, but, you know, Jamie Ben isn't. But they do have some smallish type of forward.

So it is going to be interesting to see how they retool. And that kind of feeds into the speculation around Jason Robertson. Right. Like why would his name be out there? You know, why would it be? Well, the only reason it's out there is that you're embracing change. And if you're trying to do that, by either adding a piece through free agency,

you've got to create cap space or via trade, you've got to throw something that is going to be decent bait out there so that teams know you're serious about change. And I think that's legit. And I think that that's where all that Robertson speculation is fueled from. And again, you know, they've got a tight cap situation, and he needs a deal. That sort of adds pressure,

just like DeBor being in the final year's deal. I don't know that you can't keep everyone. Like they got to pay Harley and they're going to pay him. Yeah. There's probably not room for both of those guys to add to their cap. No. And, you know, they invested long term in, oh, my God, Johnson, Wyatt Johnson, right after acquiring Miko and extending him.

So they've got some big tickets to wrestle with. But, you know, again, yeah. It's just. I'm basking in. It can't be about the coach all the time. It can't be. But I think they're going to be one of the more aggressive teams. I think that they're open for business in terms of the ways they're willing to be aggressive.

Maybe not specifically hunting for one thing, maybe two or three things to really shake things up there. We're handling things well here in Calgary, Dregs. Josh, I sent you a thing there. just, I don't know who put this together, but it just feels like maybe we're on a bit of an island here that there's a lot of, I get this. Oh, it's Canada's team and all this sort of thing. Here's a, here's a look, maybe it just how. Oh, yeah. It looks like maybe that's accurate, that everyone, everywhere is okay and on board with Edmonton, but there is a little pocket of us here. Interesting.

That's, uh, just Sam Bennett just love. Nice fella. Matthew Kachuk, we're still so tied to him. I mean, Bobrovsky. I've been such a huge fan. Paul Maurice. Gosh, you love a great guy. You really like him, yeah.

Oh, drags were not as tough because it feels different. The whole playoff has felt different. It has more of an inevitable feeling than ever before. Really? There's poise and confidence and they just score when they need to. Yeah. It's like they finally realize we'll probably get some. goals if we need them let's not give as many up let's be more sound defensively and just

all together and and sometimes it's oftentimes it's not the most noticeable or expected anticipated right you know we would expect connor macdavid being an all-world talent to do what he did in in helping and setting up the tying goal and then be part of that power play that initiated the game winner in overtime and the fact Grice Saddle scored two the first than last again do you expect that that might be lofty but they're all world players so they're supposed to to be that impactful did anyone have caspari cap an playing reverse he was awful in toronto he was healthy to start the playoffs he did not look particularly anything at all in the regular season like yeah he'd done a really good job pulling guys off the scrap heap.

Because guys they signed July 1 haven't been that. Like Skinner, Arbetson and Emerson, like there's a lot of popcorn there. There's not a lot of ice time. Right. And, you know, Stan Bowman took a lot of heat for those signings and the fact that he didn't do enough. Jake Walman to me has been a nice ad. You know, he looks like he's bolstered that blue line.

I will give Bowman credit because at the time of bringing in Klingberg, he said just the reality of Klingberg coming back into the league after being offline for that long, you know, the injury, the surgeries that he had, all of that. He was going to need six to eight weeks of playing before they'd be able to assess, you know, whether he could shoulder the load. And he's serviceable. Like, he's having some decent playoff hockey in his game.

And, you know, again, Oilers fans, you three excluded, were clamoring for a goaltending upgrade, even up to the trade deadline. Everybody, even though those two guys helped Edmonton get to game seven last year, everybody thought, okay, well, you got to go out and get this guy or that guy. And it wasn't much available. But, you know, there were some rumors and guys that were in speculations that may have helped. But Bowman didn't overreact. And he allowed the group to come together.

And now they're getting that support and the influence from all layers of their lineup. And I feel like I guess that's. why it's so damn hard to win the Stanley Cup, right? Is because unless all those ingredients fit in the recipe, you're just, you're not going to win. And right now it looks like they've got the ingredients. We kicked it around yesterday and I asked, I kind of asked Red, what did you make of Florida in game one? Because the flip side, because as we live here, right, you include it. It's how great the Oilers are now. Everybody's happy living in the city and the ring, like,

the whole thing. It's been a, it's been quite a gushing the last couple days. How was Florida, because they were still one goal away from winning them. I didn't think they were great. And some of that's tied to the Oilers being very good the other night. But this feels like a game, this is a Florida, you know, this is where a gutsy experienced deep team like Florida should come through in a game two. I thought when Sam Bennett scored in the second period

to make it 3-1, I thought it was game set and match. I just felt like, okay, not that Edmonton was going to falter, but there's blood in the water now. And this Florida team is going to find a way to get that fourth one. And then 4-1, yeah, it's over. You know, but Edmonton just stayed in it, stayed in it. And Arvinson scores now it's 3-2. Florida got into a little bit of penalty trouble, not a lot,

but some things that they definitely are going to want to clean up. They're probably looking at that second period. And even though Bennett did score, they had 17 shots on Stu Skinner. 17 shots. know, but I don't recall a sequence where, you know, you had two or three guys jamming at the net or aggressively trying to get to Stu Skinner. I don't recall that.

And that largely is the identity of the Florida Panthers. Like Sam Bennett scores too. How much do we notice Matthew Kuchuk in that game? Not a ton. And he's not right. You know, it was pretty quiet. Barkov is always noticeable because, you know, he's just that level of player, right? it can't just be about Sam Bennett, obviously.

Otherwise, and here, I'm in, I call Van der Kaine in this series the Equalizer. You know, we saw Matthew Kachuk chase a hole around the ice in that Eastern Conference. You think there's any chance he's doing that to an oiler in this series? No chance. And not because he's worried about, you know, having to face Van der Kaine or the general toughness of the Oilers. he's probably more worried about the balance that comes in that approach. And the reality that, okay, well, yeah, Evander Kane is going to take somebody out.

Or the way the Oilers are playing offsets, the nonsense that Chuck can provide. But it feels like he's going to have to elevate that level, that level going into game two tonight. He's not alone. Again, it can't just be about Sam Bennett. We're going to have a long offseason talk about it. And maybe it gets done soon.

but the cap's exploding. It's the first time we've seen a rapidly growing cap in probably five, six years, maybe longer. And Sam Bennett is putting together a playoff for the ages. He's clearly focused on hockey. I don't imagine he's mulling things over and talking to agent right now. But like, how does this play out? Because clearly Florida wants him, but it's at a number.

Yeah. And if it goes to market, it's going to be a way bigger number to go somewhere else. And this cap might be $125 million bucks in three, four years. Right. I just can't imagine. So Ken Hitchcock years ago said to me, and it was when you describe the most impactful player on a team, you know, the guy that makes a difference in the varying ways he can play,

you call him the head of the snake. So if you can cut off the head of the snake, you're going to have success. Well, Sam Bennett is the head of the snake of the Florida Panthers. He just is. Like, he drags people into the fight. So if you're Billy Zito, who, I mean, he's the most creative, arguably the most aggressive general manager in the league.

Now, yes, he's got the benefit of being in Florida. He's got the taxation side of things locked up. You know, the fact that his owner is all in every single year, you know, it's a market that players want to go to, but you still have to execute these deals. Like, you know, why did he acquire Seth Jones? Well, because they felt like Seth Jones needed a fresh start in a market. that and on a team that was going to be able to elevate his game and give him the opportunity to elevate his game.

And that's worked out. So do you do that knowing that you've got Eklad coming up as an unrestricted free agent and you're going to throw all the dollars at him? I don't know how you can. When you acquire Seth Jones, even though there was some salary retention, aren't you saying that, okay, our blue line is pretty good? It's not going to be as good without Aaron Eppel. But you've already gone through that with the suspensions and all of that.

So I feel, and this isn't inside information, it's just a gut tells me, Zito's going to put a package on the table for Sam Bennett at the end of the playoffs. And it's going to be comparable. You know, if it's seven years, what if it's eight years, at $8 million or above? How does Bennett push away from that? I mean, he doesn't want to play in Toronto and, you know, have people in his, business every day he to a degree had that in calgary and it's magnified tenfold in in Toronto so I just I don't think he's going anywhere I could be wrong and I'll admit it when he

goes but I just don't think he is you have anything there no the only reason he would go is if he wanted that challenge of the Toronto the stigma and it's home like let's be fair you can pick a lot of it's not home it's not home okay it's from where he's from where he's from the last last eight years, not in Toronto. Like, I know. I'm not, I'm not going to disclose my source. I'll just say it's somebody very close to Sam. Doesn't have interest

in Toronto. Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't. He doesn't. And, you know, maybe that changes, you know, when, see, guys like that, too, like we think of July 1st and as soon as the window opens, those guys, went in and I want to scratch their name, let's go, we're on holidays. Now I got my mega deal. Woo. Life is good.

For the top guys, they need to go through that process. and hey, Tamperfest is just wrapped up in Buffalo, right? That's the NHL Combine. And I guarantee you that there were multiple conversations about Sam Man. Tapherfest. Can you get those T-shirts? Yeah.

Those are the T-shirts. The video by NHL-P-R. Yeah, NHL Combine, just put an X and then just scratch Tamporfest underneath it. But, I mean, look, Bennett is going to have multiple teams, multiple teams that are just plop. Here's what we're willing to do, all of that. End of the day, just why would you leave a place where every year you're going to have a chance to win? And the money is there. Your lifestyle is great.

All of it. Now, if they low ball them, they being Florida, which I can't imagine. If they do, all right, well, the writing's on the wall and you seize opportunity elsewhere. I just don't think that's going to have. It's a very stressful situation. It's just to sit back and go, oh, somebody's going to present me with tens of dollars. $65 million and $72. too. I'm really stressed out here.

Darned, I can't sleep tonight, honey. I'm really, 75 million dollar contract. And, you know, we'll get you out of here, but you kind of mention it offseason. We're under a month away. You get kind of focused. There's a draft to be held. And then free agency, we're already at the 6th of June here. Well, also you're hearing, USA-wise, any kind of rumblings?

Tampa Fest. Yes, we're coming out of Tampa Fest, 25. No, it's still relatively quiet. I mean, that's going to heat up. You know, there is a cadence of the calendar that the managers have gone through. They've gone through their pro scouting meetings. You know, again, this week was the NHL Combine in Buffalo. Now they'll drill down more, you know, do the final touches to the draft.

And for sure, you know, they've done the work through their pro scouting meetings and what the UFA market looks like. And they've got their tiers and where this player slots and all of those things. And in the meantime, you know, if you've got restricted free agents, you're obviously trying to get those guys tied up as well. you know, to avoid, avoid the reality of speculation of offer sheets and all of those things. So it's a never-ending wheel that keeps turning, man. Every day there's something going on.

Nice. Appreciate you, Dregs. Have a fine weekend. Okay, guys. You too. Enjoy it. Aaron Dregor, TSN, Hockey Insider here on the Insider Hotline. A presentation of Crystal Waters, plumbing, and heating, get 10% off that new AC.

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I mean, not looking to blow up dregs there, although I guess there's no interest. Yeah, and look, I don't, I wouldn't suggest necessarily that there would be, but when you're from a place, that's just something nowhere else can offer. but it's a crazy market. It is.

Like we talk about it all the time. There's not a crazier place. And I've heard both sides of you. Like it's, well, if it gets to you, you're focused on the wrong stuff. But it's also like, why would you just add the headache if you don't have to have, deal with the headache? You know what it is.

You're underestimating how great life is in Florida. Yeah. Totally. It's just from the outside. Here's a team that hasn't won since 1967. You're from there. There's that allure to be the one that can get them over the home. John DeVars.

It's a very. Tavares, Stamcoast, every time a high profile free agent from southern Ontario comes available. Anywhere in Ontario. Oh, you like leaves? You like the leaves? You want to go home? You want to go home? And it's just not everyone, obviously, is very different.

And especially for a guy like Sam, who was in a Canadian market, tame, comparatively. And yeah, but it's incredibly tame. I've gone to a market where we win. The climate is great. It was, you would have loved it. The other day was a game one. Betman and Daly had their meeting of, the with the media the state of the union and someone asked about the you know taxes in these non-tax

havens for some teams make it difficult for other teams is there any thoughts of equalization and of course they there's no that's not on the table at all and then trying to you know we don't really think it's that big of a deal frankly we think it's and to be fair before he got there as gm no one wanted to plan for we think it's uh we think it's overblown that it's not it is overblown is it it? Well, how did Arizona do with their tax advantage? Like, you need to be good, and it needs to be a good organization. And Florida's had the same tax advantages since 1990. Six. It's a combination. It's, I would think it's a huge part of every decision making for a unrestricted. It helps, but to suggest it's the biggest ignores the fact that no one wanted to play in Florida for 20 years. But they taxes didn't change there, right? What changed? To suggest that we just don't think it's, we don't think it's really an issue.

It's an issue for sure. The problem, like, it is an issue, but I don't think it's as big as people make it out to be. It's a big. And then, okay. So then don't bring it up. No, and let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish.

I don't think there's a solution that's easy. That's the kicker. And so the combination of it being. Well, you could be like Calgary did to us and put a one fucking percent tax just because you played hockey. Thank you. Thank you. Trying to multiply everything you made by. Yeah, that's a bit of money at the end of the day.

It's just a dick move by the government is what it is. That's like, oh, you're a hockey player? One person. But like, I don't see people just, oh my gosh, this tax situation in Utah, we can't. Like, no, you got to be good. You do. Of course. And they'll get there.

And Arizona was never going to get there because they had a shitty rank and a shitty owner. But Florida was not a team that had success based on tax advantages until four years ago. You're not going to go somewhere that's run poorly. And what happened and you're, you're forgetting the ownership pool. It was really bad before. for quite a while was a joke. Yeah, I agree. Same in Arizona.

That's the worst ownership in sport. You can't downplay one or up play. Like, it's a combination of things. Absolutely. And if you're in last place, you are not going to attract players. I agree. It's not why you play the game.

And the tax situation. But you're just saying it was because it was bad team. Well, was it the ownership too? Like, it's a combination of things. And the tax situation is legitimate. But it's not the deciding factory in all cases. I agree. And look, like, guys like to play in LA. Guys like to play in New York.

Guys like playing in Montreal and Toronto, albeit like a little bit different. Those aren't teams that struggle to get free agents. Those are the worst tax climates in the league. And ever Buffalo, poor Buffalo. Shitty organization and worst tax. Oh, shit. We're like 10 centimeters into the state that has New York City and now we're screwed taxed. Yarmo is going to get it all figured out.

Yarmu Keklein is there now, guys. Kind of pull has he got. Kevin Adams kick his in. Oh, Yarmo. The more people will. we can get next to Kevin Adams that have done the job, I'm okay with. Can I say something? Actually, just because we're talking about this,

and this is better than oil or chat, that organization to me could be in major trouble. Buffalo? Yes. At some point, it's a small market. Like the owner is losing millions upon millions every year. Like,

I don't give a shit what you say. The guy's got smart business guys don't lose 30 million a year for decades at a time. And you said it, that rank ain't, That rink is old. It's mid-90s. And not that doesn't sound old. That'd be one of the oldest drinks in the league.

Yes. And even if that's fine, it's a gate-driven organization. They don't have the suites. They don't have the corporate dollar. And who the f wants to play there? That might be the one spot in the league. I mean, Winnipeg's kind of hanging onto their guys. But Buffalo is a as weather-wise, it's not good.

travels better, I guess. But what's going to keep that team in Buffalo long term? I'm actually serious. Because they have to be good to attract players, but even if they are good, you think that if you're deciding Toronto or Buffalo,

why are you going to Buffalo? They got to be Winnipeg South. You're right. You have to be the draft and development and we're competitive. Otherwise, you're dead. And even if that, at some point, the money runs out. Sorry. No, I was just because in Winnipeg, you're making U.S. dollars.

Yeah. And there's a, like there's a little bit of an advantage. It's, I mean, you're talking about the two bottom feeders for sure. Yeah. Wings. Wings are good. Real good. Pizza.

I'm going to crush some pizza. Um, wings and pizza lessons. Lenova. What about, we hear about. There's Niagara Falls is right. How's hunting fishing?

Is it good there? The maid of the mist. Yeah. Ride the maze. Sun down or close. You got across the border. She doesn't see there. There is hunting and fishing.

which is called when it snows like six feet overnight like a lake effect or something yeah that's not good some people love that maybe though no big snowmobiles no but you're right like the bills before they were a good football team it was like yeah they might move this team yes like literally and they're good and you're right like literally rogers moving now and the check for hundreds of millions to get like exhibition games and a couple regular season games and at that time, 10 years ago, I was like,

well, yeah, we're going to try to move them here. The NFL's a different beast and the owner, he owns both teams. And all the corporate dollar in Buffalo is going to... Bills.

The bills. Yeah. Nobody, like, it's a secondary, like, you could, I can see that team

being in a big trouble. You got to move to Atlanta, third time's charm, right? Oh, yeah. I was like, Spector was asking Kane about living in Evanston.

He's like, well, I do have experience with living in, places of people might consider less desirable. It's like, well, Atlanta to Winnipeg to Buffalo. Yeah, I guess. There is some of that. There is some of that.

Did you decide what you were making this weekend? You were talking about a prime rib? Oh, didn't take it out. Is it too late? It's too big, and I don't have any friends to come over. Well, Jack can come over. I hate you. I'll drop them off just hammered Sunday, Saturday night.

You can get you. You know what? Jack has lost a lot of my respect because of his half-ass effort. a week ago. You didn't even show up. There is that part. I was showing up. No, there's a thing where it's like,

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but the guy that said he'd be here not showing up shouldn't be taking runs at Jack. You didn't even show up. I'm going through my toes. I, listen, it's... I'm very elusive in my response. I never doubted Pinder was going in

with the objective of winning. I never doubt that. I thought Jack would want it more. I thought, you, I thought your motive, I think you're, I thought it was pure. I don't, you had no intention of completing it. You just went there to eat and drink. If I, if I do this, this is going to ruin my night out where it's like, no, no, no,

you're here to do this. And if you can't have a night out, well, yeah, that's, that's the byproduct. As soon as things turned, got a little difficult, you just packed it in. All right, here we go. And any chance you can do the 999 with us on May 30th. I wrote back, attend or participate. Up to you. And then I wrote this.

That was my reply. So in no. There's a lot of shows. What was your reply? I'll send it to you, Jack. Is it something you're interesting? Anyway, point being, I know how you can get a thawed prime rib roast if you really wanted.

I could zip up to the boss. You could go right up to the right size. That's true. Yeah. Do you ever size you want. That's the thing of, if you're still living in the world of go to the grocery store, to get well that one's that wouldn't be enough they don't there's only one of them i went what are we doing what are we doing hi welcome to bontan meat market i'm having did that please help

we have six eight 10 three people it's sad it's sad world to live in where you would just kind of go and stand at a meat case in a grocery store and be like well i guess that's what we're having that's the least disgusting thing we were going to have stakes and that's i mean are those good stakes i don't or that roast, is it tough? Let's do it right. It's how to Greg. 24 consecutive years, Bontan meat market.

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I mean, Greg, it's about you, but really it's about me. Yeah. You're going to be able to tailgate? Yeah. It's an opening. You're going to set the tone here. Yeah, we'll find out. Bontan meat market.

Quality, 104 years. Let's do the Pinda report. Do the Pinda report. Speaking of quality. Yeah. Quality. And now this. Yeah, that's right.

It's Village Honda. Online at VillageHonda.com. Probably got some real traction online from those clips that we saw earlier in the show. Did numbers. Yeah, they would have those numbers there. Us in pain. Quite well, yeah. Yeah.

They want to buy your pre-owned vehicle. They have all makes and models of pre-owned and new. They're part of the Wood Automotive Group. If what you're looking for isn't on the lot, it doesn't mean they don't have it. It just means chat with one of the sales personnel and take a look through the database of vehicles. Maybe they have. Oh, plenty.

Maybe the exact car you want, but it's only an orange and you're like, can't do orange. Yeah, I can't do that. Any other color? Well, hey, look, we got it right here. in the system. I am superstitious. So I cannot do that. Can't do orange. That's right. It's the Pinder Report.

All right. Let's get to Flames Nation. The writers are writing and the nerds are nerding. And there's my goals. Flames really wanted. I bet you there's a deal to be made around Condry and Coil may be involving NACIS as a Frank is saying what about Charlie Coil moving forward?

It just three up Brock Nelson. They have Jack Durries, the fourth line center. The Brock, lobster. Oh, okay. Shoot, where did I put? There he is. Like that.

So maybe Charlie Coil's not a fit. Maybe NACIS isn't happy. We're Nudels throwing a little gasoline on that flame. Yeah. I don't want anything to do with Natchez if he's not happy. Because it, like Nudel said, it really looks like he's not happy anywhere. Are you check

here, Luke Dubois? I think he's checking. You might be slow back. You don't need to check it. It's okay. Either way. Stop. Stop.

Growth. Don't do it. Just move on. Charlie Coil's 33 years old. He's the same age as Brock Lobster. Yeah. I don't want him. I'm kind of with you.

Charlie. You can't be more than 23 or four. He's got 950 games. Jeez. Big year coming. They want to have with that silver. That doesn't fit the mold of the That's someone else buying a silver stick.

I'm kind of with you on Natchez. I've been a fan. I like it. Big, strong. When he wants to play center. But it's like, is your dad still in your ear? Like, are you, are you Eddie Lack 2.0? What's happening?

I think any of Lack's dad was benevolent. Don't. Yeah. Don't just let it go. 6 3.195. You're good. A little bean pole. Don't.

Don't. Jack Republic. Oh, geez. I was curious. Ryan back to you. Thank you. We got a stupid game tonight. Back at the hyphot tank, it's game two.

Poilers either get a stranglehold or the panther steel home ice and make this a series. You might be familiar with those two fellows. I think they each scored twice in game one. I also got them both in the most goals scored in the series, but I'm not three things. that's on Max. Thankfully. Thanks, Max.

Thanks, buddy. Thank you, Max. The DeBoer follow out has happened. We broke this morning. Your mortal enemy, Elyt Friedman broke the news, Dean. So that's found out. Immediately Jim Nill made the statement.

You guys should have a leg wrestling competition. Yeah. Well, he's hanging out with your boy walks, stealing your friends now. Yeah. Get that guy here, cut. And this of the memes,

they start to follow and things like that. What else are we got on Nile, DeBoer and Ottinger? Kind of interesting. I didn't blame it all on Pete, but the reality is, if you go back to last year's playoffs,

he's lost seven out of the last eight against Sabinton. Jake Ottinger, probably. Probably, Jay, okay. Fair is fair. Yeah. Hmm. And,

well, it's kind of a joke, but here's the interesting thing about Pete DeBore is Mark Lazarus from the athletic a lot. He's been to the Western Conference Final six of the last eight years. Three different teams. How can you have that kind of success

and be coaching three of a team? Something's off. And that is what we talked to Dragger about. He said a head coaching job every single year since 2008-09. You were playing that year. I mean, at what point is it the trend, right? Are they kind of a few? What's interesting too

is he's made it to the finals twice. New Jersey and San Jose. New Jersey. Not who you would. Playing in New Jersey. Not who you would guess, given that he was in Vegas and that,

you know what I mean? The sharks did they lose to the penguin? Yeah. In Jersey, I don't. I think Marty Broder was still there. Jersey would have lost the Kings. Eric Bolton was on that team.

Jersey would have lost the Kings. Who's the Russian over? He's. Covalchuk. Yeah. Still making money, by the way. You're still making money. Still.

making money. Zoom, zoom. What's interesting about all this is that Ryan Huska feels like a green coach in the sense, oh, he's like new to being in head coaching. You want to take a guess out of the 32 coaches where he ranks? He's now top seven guys.

Top 10. The seventh. Honestly, don't buy yellow bananas if you're green. Yellow banana. Do buy yellow bananas. Buy yellow bananas. Black like green bananas. Walker had a big.

big thing about the bananas. The moment it turned any shade less than green, he's like, well, it's too late now. That's my wife, she gets, what? They shouldn't snap. They shouldn't be crisp. Yeah, once they're done snapping. No, like a slim gym, they're in the freezer. I've got nine deep freezes full of fucking bananas for banana bread. Yeah, we get a lot. The shoveler makes great banana bread. Oh, she? I'd love that. Really? Yeah. Okay. Who doesn't love banana bread? Jack. Love some banana bread. Sure. chocolate chips in there. Oh, God, yeah.

If you don't like banana bread, I got questions about you, Peter DeBoer. That's true. That's right. I wonder if he likes Paniconson likes banana bread. Apparently Peter DeBore doesn't like banana bread, so they guessed his eyes. Yeah. Well, red flag comes in. We saw it with Noel Patrick with pizza. Stop having banana bread at the breakfast buffet.

Guys, they won't stand for it. Ottinger loves banana bread. That's the root of it all. I agree. Jake, banana bread, Ottinger. That's what they call them. Yep, BB. Exciting day.

Jack's world. Is it? Get married, Jack? Tell us what the last 24 hours you've had. I mean, this is exciting. The last 24 hours? Yeah. Well, I had to sit through a very long, nerdy show.

Well, and very, very, very long, but very, very nerdy show. And then as soon as that ended, things, yeah, not very exciting. This show, this is kind of like on our network, because we're kind of. Yes. The one that we're shit talking. Yes.

We'll be telling you at the end of the. the show to be sure to watch it. Yeah, be sure to watch it. I don't know I'm saying anymore. Boys, we got our quarterback. Stamps? Yeah, Vernon Adams. We play VA.

No. Who is, we have our quarterback. Just what. Aaron Rogers is all those guys who keeps on keeping on. The ability to look off and control defenders with the type of his helmet in his eyes, even no look passes. Perfectly true.

Bullseye every time. Does he have a vintage moment in it? Still a little magic in Aaron Rogers right there. This is a guy that's done it at a high level for a long time. Unbelievable. I'm completely rejuvenated. Let's get Terry Bradshaw's take and see what he. Rogers is taking his number.

And Terry was like he needs to go chew bark and stay in California. That was his take. Yeah. Why did we play that? Well, I mean, it's Jack. It's for Jack. What's interesting is like Aaron Rogers has been a very good quarterback. And this guy's saying it's like finally banging your high school crush,

but now she's 40 with four kids. Probably inappropriate for the show, but I did laugh. That's the internet. Yeah. Because I was looking it up. Like he's a great quarterback. Man, like the Jets, they were, how downtrodden they were when he got injured that first play two years ago.

They finally got a healthy Rogers last year. And with a healthy Rogers, I mean, what an incredible five and 12 season. they were going to be good because they had the best defense in the league too. But you're legitimately excited. I am excited. I don't know how this is going to go, but this is just. We know how this goes. What do you mean?

You don't know how this goes. You got to trust. This is the best part about being a Steelers fan. It's just it's never dull. We go from Russell Wilson. It's always dull. You run the ball. You have nine and eight.

You never win. Nine and eight. It's always. Oh, I think it's different with Rockers. You want to be a real fan of the bills. So eight and nine? I don't want summer to be over. Maybe the middle is fairly starting.

But I'll tell you what, I'm kind of looking forward. I'm very excited for being in here on Monday. I can't wait to be in Pittsburgh. When we go, Jack and the bills. Can you guys please just go? Well, you're coming, aren't you? Yeah, we're going. We're all going.

I heard the traffic's no good there. I don't. Yeah, but we'll walk the stadiums. Right. Yeah, we'll get, stay at the. Ritz Carlton. Yeah. And the more,

well, Sid's probably got a few rooms in his place. We can just stay with him. Yeah. And then there was the whole, damn. I really wanted to make the news today. Bad day for you. Sorry. It's a tough time there.

You like that. A crazy day. It was nuts. And if you thought that was nuts, you didn't see the Pacers and the Oklahoma City Thunder there. The can't win Indiana Pacea? Wasn't it a huge okay? They're basically down by like 14 the whole game. It got as bad as 15 down late.

But these are the Pacers. They did it again. Look at this. 94.79. They come back and win this thing. Is this what the search does? This is that surge thing. It's not target score.

This is NBA. Oh. Look at the clock on the right. This is insane. Again, they did it. So they put up 32 points, nine and a half minutes. Is that a man? Jack.

Jeez. It's happened. Wow. I can't believe that just came out of your mouth in this room. Honestly, did you have that written down somewhere? That's incredible. What? Ready, feeling okay?

It was as much a guess as a. We got a cold cloth for his forehead. Quantum physics and math. I got it. I went and got one of those. So anytime the Pacers are down 15, get on the bet 365. Because they're actually winning more than they're losing this playoffs when they're down by 15. This is an actual stat.

Well, here's the guy. This is Halliburton. They got a nickname for them. The Halliband. This is not. Jesus. The halid. I don't approve of this.

Yeah, you did. You kind of put the stamp of approval. We're here to say it. off the fucking screen, please? This is not funny. There are some other memes, though, because here it is. Well, then go with the funny ones, not the... This is a...

Yeah. It's just more game winners and more game winners and more game winners and down by a billion and the Pacers keep winning. I can't believe you put that on. The Halibands his nickname. It's another good one. We're not approving of that. We were scolding them. Be better.

We need a meeting. Yes. Well, we're going to be... Oh, dear. This is what happens when old drunky pants stays out till all hours of the night. It's his decision making. Trying to buy me shots at 2 a.m. What are we on a stamp stand?

Let's do that. Yeah, good idea. Stick to sports. Jack and I are. Holy F. Jack. Head into Big Bad stadium tomorrow. We'll hopefully tell you. I'll give it a great.

Come on, buddy. You got an answer yet? Not yet. Okay. Give me, keep you del in here. Keep me delved. It's free food.

They're hype. It's first game of the year. Soak it up. Welcome to a new season in the Canadian football league. And we've seen it. You said it the end of the day. They're coming off a rough year. But I will put that uniform in that logo and those colors and helmet against anyone.

God, it looks good. Love it. Good luck, boys. Bull Levi. I know. Right. This is one. They looked like they were going to.

The CF season started last night. played on one like they won by five or six they were up as many as 16 late and then it was like who's their quarterback rat Trevor Harris who's their backup who the fuck cares yeah the guy that was here last year that we threw dirt on uh we we we we'll get a mace five o'clock start they've got the party outside starting at like what don't go at three go at noon sure yeah yeah yeah set to get to pick the tables uh are very loud at tailgate don't let me down great oh gosh yes i thought they had a kibosh no no no just don't be an idiot putting in a red cup okay you are an idiot though this is the problem yeah um get to the game early yes and they got the the the happy hour beers of the east end zone i was gonna say

in the east they got the five dollar menu yeah oh boy some set a base jack set a base jack can go and wimp his way through a couple hot dogs go and stay for yeah if you get to one and a half jack you don't finish the second so don't let it really in your day. Take it easy. Yeah, seriously. Update. Can't lift anything heavy, but I could probably handle a beer. Yes, we are so in. You know what? You should offer to lift the heavy stuff. I'm happy. Tell them you got some idiot lugs that are good at lifting stuff.

I might go to this game, Dean. I'm actually serious. If Pinder would come through with some freebies from the stamps and the sweet, I could actually go to this game. I like how I'm just renowned as the King of Grace. You're like, yeah, I got to talk to Pender. How did I become a ticket reselling? Hopefully some just listen. Cavalry. They're in action. Surge in action. A lot going on. Sorry. The stamps have good nachos?

They did. I know the Flames catering has taken over a lot of stuff. It used to be a lot of volunteers. That might be, that might be team wise. It's better. Yeah. I don't know what that. They did make a change with their in-house session. Yeah. Concessions for. fans are not. But anyway, sorry.

Meanwhile, cabs in action. Satch J. McNeil, ask him. Rhett, Rett's curious about the notch. I think he's golfing with Doug Flutty. If you're taking sense right, but yes. Perfect time. Maybe Doug.

Buffalo, Buffalo ties. I've met Doug. I've hung out with Doug. I believe I've had a beer with, Doug. He seems like he'd be a good guy have a beer with. I think I've told the story.

Okay, we'll keep out. Paintball story. I don't think you've told it. Paintball. Is he competitive? I don't want to throw. What? It's a big weekend for the stamps.

Come on. Marco Carducci. What are you doing? You're letting him off the hook? Shoveler wants to go to this game. Bullkeeper the month. Hey, shoveler,

there's actually rules about running onto the field post game. See, the shovel would go to the game with B and pull a painter. Yes. Disappear. Okay, we'll see you later.

I just need to go get some hugs. Some pitch hugs. He's a great boy. Playing a great. I think he's what three clean sheets in his last four. How tall would he be like six four? He's actually, for a goal tender, not.

Okay. Like for a keeper. He's, he's quite short for a goalkeeper, but he's probably the best in the league for seven years. Why, he's the goalkeeper of the month for the God damn. It's the best in May. I know that. And a cowg, good, Calgary, but beauty! So we were at

the third string quarterback's house who, uh, oh man, I got to remember his name. Rob Johnson. He was the quarterback coach after a while in Buffalo. And so the bills were there and Razor and I were there. They were having a paintball game game. Okay. That this guy's he had acres and acres.

This third string quarterback. Okay. Alex Van Pelt. AVP. Alex Van Pelt. AVP. My boy. That's like the kind of guy that a jack level fan would get excited about.

Awesome. Third string. Awesome. So you're at AVPs. So our AVPs team guy, we're there, we're hanging out with the bills. And Doug, Doug had a real nice ride. Doug had his car at this real. At AVP's ranch.

And Doug's car got lit the fuck up. Oh, Doug. And Doug was not happy. Well, I mean, paint. Bodywork. That could damage your paint. Absolutely. I'm with Doug.

that's not you don't do that to a guy's ride dirty pool you can't do that you wanted to hear the story I'm just delivering a gun in my hand those guys would a body slam me they're massive humans Eric Bolton got beacon one at a charity event once and he got lifted up

and like listen little boy you might be big in hockey you're small in football yeah we're not on skates This is, yeah. This isn't going to be a fair fight. Yeah. I'll hold you here for a while.

So it's the stamps tomorrow. It's the calves on Sunday. The surge of a double header. They got tonight and Sunday afternoon. It's right. Look at this. Oh, the Rattlers. Oh.

And you know what? Those records are wrong. This is an old screenshot. They're four in one top of the West. Oh. The search. Oh. At least maybe five in one.

No, geez. What? I don't want to be ignorant. these are very Mickey Mouse the Rattlers you don't like the Rattlers kids who I love the surge logo

but the Rattlers does look like it was like the bunny one the blackjacks like and then we have the sea bears I wonder how you're telling me you got red blacks and blackjacks in the same city the two words names in pro sports in the same city possibly get some

a logo's generated how would you is there a tool or anything you could Jack to you know anyone that yeah AI right where she work out of the Rattler should look at that Iberson 730 tonight Am I wrong though?

Yeah Like if the honey badgers are wearing Some referee looking outfits I didn't like there said the surge You'd probably get the best gear in the league They're tidy I give a little leeway It's just every team has a name

And it's like You have to have a name And probably it's been taken So if you try and be I'm okay with the name So then because I mean when a black Jack. Is there something, Ottawa? Oh, it's a notorious poker

city. So with the tie into the... I don't get it. Yeah, Daniel Negrano. Yeah. There he is. Or he used to be bald. That's crazy. So they get the dollar. It is the Friday, Sunday. Bang, bang. Good luck, fellas. Top of the West. I'll be pulling no O KC and giving up.

Yeah, they've been... They actually did pull the Pacers. They were down 15. They were down 15. They need the basics. Took my kids home early. They're having to see me go. Rugsy. Rugsy. Rugsy.

Rugsy. Oh. Double zero. Beast. Miller Moore. Rugsy. Good luck, fellas, this weekend. What a great Calgary

sporting weekend. It is. It's nice out and there's no construction. So getting around season. And congrats to the Calgary Wilde. The ladies squad three, two winners last night. You have any highlights? I don't.

Let's go to the highlights. Let's go to the tape. Jack, back to you. Jack, can you fucking. Ryan, back to you. Yeah, he was busy. Just for all my goal. over Aaron Rogers thinking about him when he wasn't for.

He was there. Rogering and inappropriate meming. Now here's the thing Jack doesn't know. He's not married. He doesn't have the life experience and he's got three guys in the same room every day that he shares a workplace with. He can really be learning a lot.

So Jack might see the next clip and he might not know what's happening. But because of our vast life experience, we know what's happening here. Let's look. What do you think it is? How do you find this garbage? This is like first row seats. What world do you freaking live in?

Pause. Look at this. On your phone and that. No, look at this. She is locked in. So what? Beat it. They're brothers and sister.

No, I don't know. My sister don't look at me like that. You were making out on the kiss cam. No, we're the kiss cam. I didn't make out. There's video evidence of that. But people were definitely wanting us to because they didn't know we were brothers. Exactly.

It was a miscon- This is not the kiss camera. What's happening here? This is a misconception. You said you were. getting mom flowers for Mother's Day. I don't know. Is that a Kinesis? Here's the thing. This was supposed to be the greatest day of their lives.

They finally spended for those first row behind. Spended. It's not our fault. You stayed out to five in the morning. They're right behind all. You get to live with the concert. Let this off the screen. It's terrible. It's terrible.

What a waste of time. We apologize. You don't get that 30 seconds back in your life. folks. Jack, we need to go to to Vinova if you are going to do it, but again, you don't have to. Do it right, Jack. Don't have it up with that. I got it. I did not do that. Shook.

Dean's going to like this. That was the dog. I don't know that that's true. This is a dog. Feels like there's a very small percentage chance of that. Oh, please. You're on a roll. We know what you like. Now, is this a good boy or is this a good boy? You're right. Like, are you kidding me?

Hey, dad, can we just go to the hockey game and watch puck? Yeah, we can. Good boy. Got his ear muffs on. Yeah, it's a lot in there. You got real good ears, those. Now, what did your dog get annoyed? Like, I think if my dog that lives at your house and you tried to put earmuffs on that thing, that thing.

He doesn't like, you can't touch his paws. He doesn't like that. It's the, no, don't touch. But he does like a good ear rub. So it's hard to say, that's the type of dog you need. This dog? Yes. Why?

A golden retriever. They are best friends. They're smart. They're easy to train. They have heart attacks left and right. Oh, what? What's the heart attacks left and right? I'm saying for you as a, you needed, you needed a dog that's, what was wrong with the dog I gave you?

That dog doesn't do nothing. Yeah, what was wrong with it when you dropped it off on his front step? Tell us. Yeah, he was nine days old when you had it. He was still a puppy. Oh, what's wrong with him? Well, yeah, what was wrong with him? You gave him away.

Dane stole. Broken kids' hearts. Yeah. But they're, they're an easy dog to manage. That's the type of dog. You know. I don't need a dog. I got three IADH.

Yeah, you told us what that was, yeah. Yeah. You've been doing your rounds, making rounds? Always. They've been traveling or mostly phone calls? Because I saw this and I was like, is this Rhett? Southwest passenger strips naked, defecation, chair. You know, because the first part that you...

What's wrong with that? World famous. It does any of my wrestling mask. I'm one of my best stories. But I do wonder, have you been... Having some issues with, is the plumbing okay? I think it's important too. Whose chair?

Because if you did it in your own chair, that's, I mean, that's. Can you read the first paragraph? Midair disruptions have become more common in recent years, but few incidents have matched the sheer confusion and discomfort of what unfolded aboard Southwest Airlines Flight 418 on April 25th, 2025. Now, wasn't it a couple years ago, some guy? Well, there's been a few. Soiled themselves the whole way up.

Yeah, just shit. I thought it was a chick. Oh, I don't know. Wasn't a chick that had like explosive diarrhea all the way down the aisle? All the way down the aisle. They had to land the plane. They had to put the plane on the ground because she couldn't stop shitting. Now, this isn't funny because I think team, the white, the Vancouver soccer team went to Mexico.

And this happened to them. The white caps. Yes. They got to get the runs. Big time. Yeah. Montezuma's revenge. I had a lot of diarrhea

So this wasn't you, we're okay No, I've been No air there will no airplane Because I get like you know Some of us there BJs anyway You're a nudist right Listen you're happy to be a naked

We're having a lot of laughs This person Took their clothes off You're in distress Maybe somebody was playing a prank Wouldn't let them into the bathroom I need to go out on something Those

They're probably the victim DG you're right because everyone gets naked once in a while in a plane. Or if you need to get your point across, if you don't let me in, I'm going to take, where's your seat? Banging on cockpitch. There's only one empty seat so you can figure it out.

I'm going to put you in the shoes of the CEO for Southwest, a lifetime ban or no? Because you know what, here's the thing. And I think we've probably all done it on a long flight. I can't believe I'm going to have to go on a plane. I went before takeoff. I, but I'm not going to make it. That's it.

When you do it in the bathroom, you feel like there's enough shame. How about gearing right down and then shitting in your own seat? That's hard to get over. You know what? People are going to make fun of you for the rest of your life. Your friends are not going to let you get over that. Hey, do you want to go to Nash? Not with you.

Imagine if you're like, Boy's trip. No, 37F and it was 37E that did this. You're like, how I am trapped between this and I, I, this is the worst place. I'm in a middle seat and naked boy just shit himself Nosedive this thing. I'm ready. Not good.

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I was thinking about this Bo Levi's really going to want to stick it to the stamps because we know how it ended here. And it's big, hey, look who's back. Doug Flutie, Marcus Crandall, all these guys. That whole thing. We know Boe pretty well. Oh, yeah.

He's going to want to upset the Apple Car. I think you're right. He's going to want to come in here and say, hey, I'm going to spoil your party. I'm not like stripping down on a plane or anything. No, no, I like that. No. Classily. I am. Yeah, very

classily. Very much within the framework of the game, I would like to ruin your party. I'm going to metaphorically remove my clothes and take a dump on this chair. That would be the end result. Yeah. Meanwhile, Vernon Adams Jr. in his first game is like,

hey. Big play VA. They're going to need a big play. Get a load of me. That's what the line is. A lot of me. Credit to ball. there'll be part of him that'll be feeling, right? Because they moved on from him, went to Jake mayor. Jake mayor didn't really work out.

They then had to then get a replacement for him. Oh, that was the guy you picked over me? And Beau had, Beau has been good since he left. And one to minus two is the land. Really? Early season, though, right? Oh, dude.

And like, I'm sorry, like, how does the Stampeders team look? They might have a new player at every single defensive position tomorrow. I don't know what that looks like. Dave doesn't. Ask Dave. Buckees don't. So who are your starters? Like I don't know.

We'll see. We'll play guys and see. He's playing coy. He knows damn well. Dave knows everything. Yeah, he does. He doesn't like watermelon.

So can we trust him? Did we know about the watermelon thing? No, that's a new twist. The burgers we knew about. And he has mentioned the chicken burger. He does like a good chicken burger. What the hell is a chicken burger? More like a hot chicken sando.

Is it the breaded fried thing or is it? I don't know. There's a Nashville hot chicken. There's other hot chickens. Yeah, like it's maybe it's a grilled chicken. Probably. Yeah. Athlete.

I'm an athlete. I wouldn't mean. It's true. You're built different, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

It was good to catch up with him. Been a while. It was. Didn't ask about you, though. Ah, that's because we talk. Is it? Yeah. Yeah, he's making his rounds.

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It's a nice little heater here. Free agent this winter as well. a hit and the Blue Jays to win by two or more. Nice little run. In Minnesota, lots of Canadians are making the trek from Winnipeg down to Minnie. It's the closest they get to Manitoba. Should be fun at Target Field.

See if they can keep this heater going. Meanwhile, well, Cichuk and McDavid, just set up some guys and look at the number plus 425. Are you kidding me? Yeah, okay, I'm in. That's a big number. Those are crazy things to happen.

Staying away. Staying away from a result, though. Yeah, I don't want to try to like, yeah, we can't. He's impartial. What is that line? Do we know? Did you look? I think it was minus 115 for Edmonton, minus 105, Florida.

That was earlier today. We'll check Stanley Cup final game tonight. Minus 105 minus 15. So the same over under six and a half. Feels like a Florida win to me tonight. Oh, that'd be great for the series. And the weekend. Yeah.

Yeah, you get a, you know, launch us in style it's got a way to start the weekend if you ask players on but they're expecting a long series you know no one thought this is going to be a sweepie here that all the time right in order for that to happen getting some business both teams have to do some winning yeah this feels like a florida statement game tonight oh well i hope so i think you're an idiot but i hope so you think i'm an idiot because of that or just well in general but that more clarification we don't need to get all jingsy pants on this thing let's have a good series Yeah. I'm not even that's with any colored goggles off at this point. I think we're going to get a win. May as well be tonight. On the other side, on the other side, everyone's been,

you know, it's like they've won. Oh yeah, one game. I mean, geez. The way people are talking is say, hey. I started on the white mud and we're going to go left here. It's time. It's time. This is what this horrible wrong is about to be righted. Yeah. Here you go.

Well, you won an overtime. You were good, but... One bounce. It is. Put your money where your mouth is. Big boy. Put my, put a big unit on it. Not sure I can afford $5.

Oh, are you going to get in on the 50-50? My unit play. That's one thing. Jack, you 50-50 purchaser? You feel like a 50-50. I've done it once. What? What?

Did you win? No. Oh. Bad luck. Bad luck. Because most people do. that guy 100% on there that guy in left, Reggie.

Call him. See what he's got a trick for sure. Dumpling Steen. I'm going for dumplings. Are you? Okay. What are you doing, Jack? What's up this weekend?

Friday, which is today. That's correct. I'm a birthday party. We're watching the Oilers game. Your kid? Did you just say birthday party? Are you nine? This is an actual thing.

When's the last time you were involved in a birthday party that didn't involve a child? Well, unless it was like grandma's turning 70, somebody's having 50 or 75. What do you call it? No, I'm just, but like you're having a birthday party for a friend. Did you wrap a gift? No. Balloons. We're just having drinks and going to the bar.

Do you have a pinata in the tail on the donkey? Do you know those dogs bark and see their pain in the ass dog? Yeah, that's a, the forestment construction jackets. So what are you going to do? You go drinking? Drinking. Tomorrow I'm drinking with Ryan, Stamps game. and then not Sunday, but Monday,

I signed myself up to go to Creed when I was at Greta. I'm going to Creed. You signed yourself up. Yeah, I guess like tickets for purchase and I sent money, so I'm going. I guess tickets were no idea. It's not U-sports men's hockey on Kijiji scalping,

so you're going to get ahead of it if you're going to pay the high prices. Yeah, good job, buddy. I'm looking forward to that. Monday is kind of like, a concert on a Monday? It's all about my buddy beef would tell you it's about how thing routing

a pass through in the washer cat they're going to be at the big valley champion so they can do a Wednesday at Houston's where are they performing I have no idea oh it's like God is they that big

is Creed going to sell at the dome where are they at right now I guess I could look Can you take a look? Well, they, you know what? There's a bit of a resurgence because they got big and then everyone's like, you guys are losers. They got the nickelback treatment of it, didn't it? Yeah.

And now I think, now they're getting there. It's like, ah, it's kind of like everyone's in and the joke. You know what? They sing. It's got a fun. You hear it out of party. You're like, hey, it's a good song. Yeah.

All right, with arms wide open. Yeah. I don't know what else they're doing. Are they playing those two songs on a loop? I wonder if they were to play LeBron, was wide open. That was banning her. JK, it's not creed. It's three days great. Oh, God, Jack.

You are amazing. You are amazing. You bought tickets. Yes, I bought a singular ticket. And do you get on a bus? Are they bused? I have no idea. I just... So I have a question. Have you ever gone to a concert that you didn't know what the concert

was before you got there? You bought tickets to a concert. But I didn't know who was like. One ticket and you don't know who is... Is it one? Yeah, like the group bought a concert that. tickets at Greta and I said I'd go apparently If I get some details on this before, because you didn't know

what band you were seeing or where it was. Yeah, venue and band are a really big piece of going to a live music show. See, this feels like a parenting failure on our part. But I hear this, it's like, I feel like Jack's headed in the right direction. We're doing well with Jack.

And then you hear this like, oh my God. You're like he's doing what was his boogers? He's putting on the wall in his room. Jack, we talked about the boogers. for the show kids or idiots it's at the dome really yeah who else is with them because it can't it cannot be a one yeah there's got to be a few there I don't know maybe right we've established yeah what maybe crease was you for have a weekend everyone no super chat uh no not today horns come on people not today geez no well wishes the uh so didn't do a good enough job help the kids yeah

no well wishes to us no no hopes of us no hopes of us having a fine weekend no nothing no life in general yeah no one wishing jack a happy birthday no one offering to do any gift wrapping for a balloons yeah it's going to a birthday party and then a concert i don't know where when or what i don't know who's playing where is it yeah i don't know that either are you sure you're going did you poop on a plane recently jack oh i hate airplanes See you, bud.