Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Sweden 🇸🇪 vs Canada 🇨🇦 | 4 Nations Face-Off Postgame Reaction - February 12th, 2025

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

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Oh, and there we are. We're live. Canada. Holy Toledo. It's the Ryans. It's Pike and Pinder and producer Jack, who deserves a lot of credit. We were sitting watching the game, all of us. Jack thought the pregame was too slow.

I had hockey practice. Pike was writing a thesis on some sort of astrophysics, I'm sure. And it was like, hey, this gets interesting. Maybe we should just, you know, throw a little stream together and see what happens. And the more this game developed, the more people cared. And I got off the ice after some U-11 practice. We had 15 minutes full ice pike at the beginning.

We really skated these fellas. This was a great game. What I saw. I did not catch the first. But, you know, Ryan, I care about this tournament. Yeah, I mean, it's, I think a lot of folks, folks on on this very

YouTube's network were discussing like I don't know do you really care about this tournament they don't have a name for the stupid trophy yeah it's cool looking they don't have a name for the trophy we it doesn't we don't know if they'll be doing this particular thing

regularly enough to name the trophy why not just have an all-star game and then we see the 60 66 minutes of ice hockey we saw this evening and go oh okay sir, I'd like another. Can we do this again? Please, could we, Gary?

Players, can we keep doing that? Good, yeah, okay. That was my takeaway because, yes, All-Star games suck and we are like, okay. But this, put this in my veins. That's what I thought. Welcome to live stream. Canada defeats Sweden in overtime.

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of comments, Red. I want your opinions. I saw half this game. Pike, you saw the whole thing. I saw the whole thing. And, and I've started my video work for this year's draft class. So I was, in the intermission, I was watching an OAHL game. So it's a nice, the flames prospects for, the usual suspects, so to speak. It's been a pretty good season year for everyone, flames related. But yeah, the, the, the bad news if you're a hockey fan is Rasmus Anderson was the seventh defenseman. He did not dress for Sweden in this game. The good news if you're a hockey fan is literally everything else because this game had pretty much everything. We're used to, I was thinking about this.

I've seen pillow fights with more physical contact than most all-star games. Like usually we joke, they're no-hitters. Everyone's sort of nursing a hangover. Their sponsor events, like they are what they are. And for what they are, they serve the masters they have their ass to serve. This thing was not an all-star game. We saw, we saw hits. We saw passing sequence.

We saw sweet goals. I don't think there was one bad goal in this game. We saw Connor McDavid get knocked on his ass with a clean hit. And instead of like a physical skirmish, you know, erupting off a clean hit, they just played a hell of a hockey. This is legitimately probably one of the five best games I've seen this year. Okay.

So I'm going to walk you through my night because you, you watch the whole thing wire to wire. I had U11 kid hockey, which I've told you about. I got there nice and early. Kids get dressed. Stop being dummies. Get your gear on. And I went up to the.

the old pub by the rink in the rink. And I'd heard whispers of Mario. And I saw Albertson and the Swedes and you saw, you know, Boston Matthews or the Americans. And what, Tamu came out for the Finns. And I got to see the Mario Lemieux eruption. And I'm like, oh, you know what you don't need is a flat building in the, in the first game of a tournament that's brand new.

And no one really understands it. And the casual fans, it's pretty funny. I watched a third period at a pub. I thought this was the flag. I actually heard that. It was pretty good. But while, you know, you got, when I saw Mario come out, I'm like, this is going to be unreal because it's Montreal.

That's the city for this kind of stuff. And that's a French Canadian. And that's one of the greatest hockey players of all time from Canada, all time anywhere. And it was like, I think we got a special one on our hands. And watching the second half was incredible because Canada's got a comfy lead at one point here. It's 2-0, what, midway through the game pike? Yeah. And I mean, they, you know, we saw, you know, the same thing.

second period, Sweden sort of found their legs, that they were on their heels. They did not get their first shot on goal until about the 17 minute mark of the first period. It was a one-sided opening frame. Canada scored in the first minutes. And then, you know, they got another goal off the rush with, you know, I'm sure Montreal fans were just very conflicted cheering for a Brad Marchand goal. But, you know, the Nova Scotia boy showed up big time in the first period. Crosby is all over the place. So it was a good first period for Canada. And then Sweden, I would love, I'm sure we probably would have heard some Swedish profanity in the locker room in between periods. But Sweden woke the hell up in the second period and just they dominated the second period, got back into it.

And then the third period was just a track meet because, you know, there's a version of this game. We've seen this, how many times have we seen this with the locals where, you know, they're down a couple and they're chipping away and they're chipping away. and they get that one goal. And they're like, all right, we're back in it. Let's stay close. And then boom, right away, three won the other way. And you're like, okay, well, we're done here. And there's a version of this game where Sweden, you know,

you're down two goals against, you know, very partisan bell center. All right, pack it in. We'll live the fight another day. We'll, you know, we'll figure out what we need to do better on Saturday against the Finns. And again, they probably weren't very happy. They were down, enter the second intermission in a row down two. And then they just kept at it. And that third period was a masterpiece because they got the goals they needed.

They won the battles they needed. And as a result, I mean, this point given how tight these standings are going to be, this point that Sweden got could be the difference between showing up in the final and not. And it makes for a great tournament. If Canada wins 6-2 and they could have after this start, it's like, okay, this feels preordained. It's just going to be Canada, USA in the final. and some of these games become meaningless. The 2.1 point separation here,

we've opened up a whole bunch more permutations of how this tournament's going to go, and it feels like all the games, the rest of the way are going to matter. Now, maybe they don't, but it feels that way right now. Now, I want to tell you, I got the alert on my phone while I was hurting kids

onto the ice tying skates. It was already 1-0-0 Canada on the power play, and I saw the score line. I was like, what? McKinnon, Crosby, of course. I haven't seen it yet. So can we do this together? Go full screen, Jack.

I really, I just want to see this power play goal. On the ice for this Canada power play, Sidney Crosby, admitted he said we have reminded each other that somebody has to shoot the puck. Here's McDavid down to Crosby. They'll go back again. Crosby for the goal line.

Across him. They score. McDavid, what's the time on that goal, Pike? 15 seconds, 15 seconds into the power play. Ozone face off. in and then just some clinical passing. And you feel,

you almost feel bad for Gussison here because it's just body laying. It was just screams. You're supposed to do. Oh, boy. You got three Mount Rushmore players, zipping it around, and someone makes a backhand between a defender's legs pass, and it's tucked home.

You have three Mount Rushmore players, a guy who's going to contend for the Norris, and then Sam Reinhardt happy to be there. 60 goals last year, whatever, yeah. That's a hell of a power player. So that was the first goal. and then Sweden just could not get the puck in the offensive zone for long enough periods of time to get anything going for the rest of the period pretty much.

And so, you know, Jack, do we have the second goal? Yeah, this is a very nice goal also. Yeah, and Jack, I want you to pute comments here that are relevant because second goal will watch it and then I want everyone's reaction because, look, expectations for this tournament were all over the place. I was confident the hockey would be good and the rest you can fix. If the hockey is good, Pike, you can play it a different time of year. You can invite more teams. We heard the announcement on the World Cup, which is the least surprising thing ever. But the hockey being good is the most important thing.

We'll talk about World Cup possibilities after we go through this game because I have ideas. Let's go. Second goal, Jack, let's hit it. Tractured ankle. The last three games in a four game span. Huge point in three. Three point a point of three. And again, you're like, sorry, Gustafson, don't know what you're supposed to do there.

And that's noted Calgary product, Braden Point, with the, like, just the most, he could have just taken a shot here. But the most unselfish passive, he basically has a breakaway here. And then he's like, you just take it. Beautiful. Yeah, that's the third line if you need them. Yeah, it's an embarrassment of riches, as it is with the Americans as well. the Swedes have a good roster, but all of their centers are having tough years. I'm going to try to it off top my head.

Patterson, tough years. Abidijad, tough year. And I'm missing somebody else tough year. I was told that everything with Pedersen is fine now. Nothing, nothing. Well, I would believe it could be better given where he was. But as a collective group, you know, at 2-0, and you're saying it took forever to get a shot, like this could have been curtains.

But when you're playing for your country and not. game 43 on a Tuesday night in January, I'm not surprised there was pushback. That's why this should be good. That's why we need more of this. That's why it shouldn't take nine years for best on best. That's why we shouldn't put Americans and Canadians under 23 in the same team. Play for your country.

Yeah, and there it is from Eric. Good stuff. Gratsky, Lemieux, Iserman of our era on a single power player. And you're ignoring like what, the Paul coffee of the era too? Paul's probably over from the car. it's a Ray Bork maybe maybe it's a Ray Bork of our generation wild yeah I mean McCar went a cup earlier than than uh than coffee did or than uh then right you know there's a lot of cups out there that's that's what I noticed with team Canada not a lot of Norris's

though um so when when did you start watching this like when when did you go from being a shepherd of young minds it was uh 14 to 10 minutes left in the second, somewhere in there. Okay. So it was 2003-1 when you turned it on. It's 2-1. The Suiza just scored. Okay.

So let's check in on that. We'll continue to move through the game and keep vomiting comments, Jack. That's what this is a hang. I'm not here to break down the game. That is not what I did. But look, we're hanging. Everyone watched it. I think there's some high hopes this could be good.

But I feel like that's going to have exceeded most people's expectations for the opener of again a tournament that's trophy doesn't have a name of a tournament that people didn't really understand the format of the rules. I like 10 minutes of three on three by the way. Yeah, the, uh, the sports net commentators were, we're remarking as it began 10 minutes of three on three. Yeah, maybe we could get this in the other league. I don't think it's, uh, by some sort of whoops, we fell into 10 minutes. I think the NHL is kicking tires on this. and for people that don't know, it is NHL rules, so to speak,

for the round Robin of the regular season with that one tweak, and then it'll be playoff rules if we get to a final. They're not going to drop to three on three. They'll play five on five until someone scores. It's not going to a shootout in the final pike, if I'm correct. That is correct. Thank you.

I was pretty sure of that. But, yeah, let's watch the goal. Sweden. Yeah. Here's Raymond. Alford headman. Franks. He's it for Brodine.

Brodine with a shot. He scores. Jonas Brodeen over the glove hand of Bennington and Sweden But what a play by Raymond to push Dowdy off the puck And then play it to the point This passed by Headman was off the mark a little bit Oh there's a moving screen right there

I think it was Raquel Look you don't love that a puck goes in from there You can explain why it went in But this goal makes it a game in a sense Doesn't it Pike? Yeah and I mean if you're looking for Bennington's perspective You got a couple areas of bodies, moving bodies in front, so you can't really figure out your angles.

And by the time, you can't even see the angle of attack there until it's in you. So you don't know if he's throwing it to the slot or throwing it right at you. You gambled wrong here, but hell of a, hell of a shot by Brodine. Yeah, I want it crossbar and in. That's a tidy placement, sure. Yeah. And so it looked like that the Swedes might be able to chip away at this, but the one goal game didn't last too long.

No, fair. And look, we'll have the Bennington conversation. They've got another guy that's won a cup on the roster. And also DeKembe Matambo, I think. I'm not sure. But it's, it's, they've got two options here. We'll have that conversation in a moment. Let's get to Sweden tying this game.

I don't know if anyone got my Butumbo. A foot race. Or also won the race. Hegel gave him some problems, but. Sweet and able to get out of the zone. Carlson, an empty little move sends Kempi straight away, and he scores. Kempi can shoot it. I am.

Someone said it in the comments. Goalie apologists, but yes, but also we are doing best on best. The problem is Canada's best goalie would not make the American roster. Low stick side shot. Yeah, stick side shot here too for quick release from the slot here. and completely froze Bittington and that gets it to the 3-2. I really like the 3-3 goal. The 3-3 goal, I think-

Well, we skipped one. So why don't we, yeah, let's get to the Canada 3-1. Apologies there. We're jumping all over the place. But, yeah, like the storyline coming in is, and there was a great article in the Athletic today, in 1999-4-95, which is what exactly 30 years ago, rough math, 73% of the net minors in the NHL were Canadian.

Yeah. And the last four 30 years is 26%. So round numbers, it's, you went from three quarters to one quarter. And I also read something this week from, I forget who it was and I apologize, because it was really good article about the rise of American goaltending, how, you know, we've seen case in point, Dustin Wolfe came up through the LA, the LA Junior Kings and they have a dedicated goalie coach, the LA Junior Kings. And so, uh, a lot of,

of the young American goaltenders came up through the California pipeline or the St. Louis area or Michigan and went up to the U.S. National Development team, you know, both is one of the few guys of that American cohort that went up to the CHL. But the NCAA and the U.S. National Development Program, they've, as Canada has kind of, they've kind of hit the ditch a bit in terms of goalie development, Sweden's kept chugging him out. Russia, if we're allowed to talk about Russia. Russia's phenomenal.

They got four guys that would all be the best goaltender in Canada. I think the Americans would too. Like, do you mind? If Demko's not hurt, Pike? Jesus. If Demko's Canadian, he's starting this tournament. He's American. He doesn't make this roster

because you have Ottinger. You have Hellebuck. You've got Swamen. Like, it's an embarrassment of riches for Russia and for the Americans. And in Canada, it's like, ah, some guys that were okay

won some cups a while ago. This is not what it used to be. We talked about this. This is not Loongo. This is not Carrie Price. This is not Marty Bruder. Yeah. And we've talked about this,

you know, I don't think I'm telling tales out of school. I say, Dustin Wolf almost got pulled into the world championships this year because some guys got hurt. And now I think you look at like, there's a decent chance that if the flames don't make the playoffs,

uh, wolf might only be, the second best goalie from the United States at the world's because of how many damn good American goalies are going to be available. Like, this is, like, they're so deep that,

you know, a Calder finalist and a guy who's probably going to be top 10 or top 10 adjacent in most goalie categories this year might not crack a world championship battery because of how deep there are that position in, in, uh, in the pro level. So, you know,

all I can say is, like, as it's as much it's not it's as much a Canada hasn't been great at development story as much as it is also in America the USA hockey program has really prioritized development and unfortunately for Canada one one you know one tied rose as the other one fell and as a result I mean on paper I think we kind of think America has probably two or three better goalies than like would anyone from Canada crack the the if they switch passports would anyone undying Canada crack america's goal oh god no they wouldn't crack rush either if they had a team here i'm sorry it's again it's hellabuck

who i think is probably the best goalie in the league you could build a case for some other guys but year over year he's always in the discussion it's swayman who finally is going to get bigger than sort of the 40 to 45 starts a year but has been exceptional it's ottinger who we saw in calgary firsthand in that series against the flames go nuclear like 970 or some nonsense. And if Demko's healthy, playing a full year, they had a tough decision. And for Russia, it's Chesterkin, Sorokin, Vasilevsky. It's one other guy I'm missing because I know there's four. Like it's, it's wild the depth that these other countries have. And yes, you can only play one. But point being the scraps for

other teams that they would leave at home, I think are clear cut number one Canadian goalies at this point. If Demko's healthy and Canadian, he's their starter. Like it's It's not close right now. Oh, no. Oh, no. But yeah. So, okay, which goal are we going to next? There's too many goals.

I'm not to order here, but let's keep rolling here because we're getting caught up to speed here in a sense. He kicked it loose. It comes to Crosby. Terrific pass, but Barako missed it. And now they get it back and Cronkies away. Horsman trying to catch up. This is so good. Crosby just drives me.

wide pike and somehow some way like as he's turning and sheltering slides it through a defender right on the tape of stone who's like what how did you put that right on my tape all I had to do was pull the trigger look at all the yellow jerseys here zinc wild there's big time Carter in the chat crosbie's the goat yeah what happened tonight did not hurt his like at see all be in one game the pride of cole harbor nova scotia just like what do you

What do you do to stop this man? I mean, he creates that entire sequence with a nice little, you know, they get their sticks in there and he just finds himself, he just creates this by just dragging guys with him. Yeah. And, you know. It's not open. Like he, he threads it.

There are yellow jerseys everywhere. Crosby was all over it tonight. We'll get to the winter eventually. But goodness, like, there was a concern that, you know, he suffers the wrist injury. a week ago, whatever it was, he sits out the last two games of the Penguins. Is he going to be ready to go? If he is, is it going to be all right?

They went to him second shift in overtime. And then it was a lot of shifts without Crosby before he got out again. But again, when it mattered, he was there again. But this is, I don't know if it would be hard to say that Crosby's underrated. But I think it's probably better stated to say it's a reminder that he's still amongst the best at age, what, 37, 38? I we've been watching Sidney Crosby do insane hockey things for like 20 years now. Yeah. And, you know, I remember, you know, I'm, you and I are both old guys.

I remember hearing about him in Jr. and seeing games, you know, from the national broadcasters with him during his draft year and his pre-draft year. He's been doing just amazing stuff for the, you know, longer than a lot of people watching hockey, you've been alive. And is he close to the height of his powers anymore? No, no, he's got to Miles on him, but he's still, you know, one of the best big game players in the history of the sport. And, you know, I wouldn't bet against seeing him in 26. Let's get to that comment that just came in from yup, yup.

There was an injury tonight. It kind of, but doesn't kind of affect McKenzie Weeger. What happens if Theodore is out for the tournament? He was ruled out pretty early in this contest pike. Geez, that left him at 5D. Now, they do obviously have Travis Sandheim as the spare. He'll slide in. They're another injury away from being able to go retrieve someone else.

But yeah, I mean, up to three one. You got the guys you have. You can't replace guys on your roster now. Yeah, they need more injuries if they're going to have to go to the wells. No, they don't have a mechanism for replacing guys. Really? So that's it. That's all.

Yeah. Okay. That's my understanding. You name your 23. These are the guys you have. If, you know, you use Sandheim, you're not going to have an extra. and if somebody gets hurt, then I guess you're using it forward. Geez.

Maybe you can teach Sam Montembow to play defense. He can skate backwards, I bet. I don't know if I want to see that. I'd rather have Sam Bennett on the blue line. Thanks, though, Pike. Let's get to the Swedish game time goal because we showed you the 3-2 goal. Swedes were not going to go away on this night

and credit them for that. Look, there's a lot of, again, Tuesdays in January where a team gets down a couple. And it's like, all right, well, we're going to fly tonight. We'll get into a hotel room at three. We play again tomorrow. And then we get an off day. We've got to play another one.

And then we'll finally get back. No, this is your country. We're not going away. Just the other day named the rookie of the year ward. QMJHL against Crosby. They go back door and they score. This is one where it's like Gordon Binnington or anyone else. Sorry.

That's a lot of nets. And that's a dirty pass. right through Pareko, who was brought here for his defense, to be fair. Yeah, things got a little tense here. We had a hockey game as soon as this went in, Pike. Yeah. And I'll correct myself. Chris Johnson of the athletic just noted,

I just reposted on my social media. Canada can only bring in more players if they fall beneath 18 healthy skaters. Yeah. And so they've got three goalies, so that gets another 20. Now the injury gets them to 19. they would need two more injuries to be able to. If they, they'd have,

you'd have to play, uh, you'd have to run with 13 forwards and five defensemen. Like you'd, you'd, you'd basically be out of guys in order to bring your guys in. Sure. Yeah.

Fair. Uh, okay. But that passed. Jesus. Uh, and then, uh,

Phil Gustafson had to keep this thing going. Unbelievable. And, and this, I've settled in at this point. And I'm, I'm watching it. I'm like,

well, this is, wow. What a goal. This is going to, what? I guess. Gastafson, with absolute larceny on Devin Taves, it was going to be the four-three goal.

I just didn't think there was any other outcome here. This is incredible. He's having a monster year with Minnesota, by the way, Pike. It's been a little rough since Christmas, but we're talking one of the biggest reasons, Minnesota is where they are in the standings. That reaction, that reaction, from in close with a guy that gets that much contact with the puck?

I just don't see guys sliding to their left with respect and then immediately full extension back the other way. Like look at his body. He's as stretched out as he can get. He's going all the way left, all the way right. That's an incredible stop. Yeah, I mean, the, if you're a case, what else can you do there? Like maybe you're trying, maybe you can try to pick the corner,

but you might miss the net entirely. So you're doing what you're supposed to do there. on net and basically forcing the goalie to be a hero there. And, you know, as you mentioned, Gossifson, he's going to, he's one of the better goalies in the league this year. He's going to get some, you know, some Vesnik consideration this year. He's, and rightfully so. He's been fantastic for Minnesota, you know. And because of this, we got the, for the first time that I can recall, we might have seen it tested out in some, like the coast or something, but for the first time,

in a high end televised game, 10 minutes, up to 10 minutes of three on three. And boy, howdy. That was a hell of a, there was no lulls in that overtime. No, it was great. Let's watch the winner. And then we'll just absolutely dump comments, Jack, because I, look, I want to see what people are saying, let's just react to that. Here's your OT winner.

Again, it's crucial that this does go 10, Pike, because look at the claw. We're almost at six minutes played. At this point, I don't want to see a shootout. It's been unbelievable. Before this clip, there was an odd man chance for the Swedes that got broken up. And then this happens. He knows he needs a change. He gains his own and he throws him back.

But what that does is the Swedes are standing still in Mario and picks him a card. Bang. And the Swedes have spent a lot of energy trying to convert at one. one end. I don't know if all their guys got off when, you know, at the beginning of that clip, we saw a yellow sweater get off the ice for a change, but I don't think they got a wholesale change. So they had some guys with, you know, maybe their legs weren't quite there. But, I mean, this is just Mitch Werner, for those of you who have not watched the blue team, he's pretty good.

And this is an example of why the folks with the other colored Maple Leaf jerseys keep that, like they, you're least fan friends, probably. probably have strong opinions about Mitch Marner. And part of the reason why they have strong opinions is because look at this. This is this is filth. Like what are you doing there? Yeah, you're right. You're 100% right.

And someone noted that it, uh, safe to say the loudest cheer at Bell Center for Mitch Marner. It was a weird, it was a bit a weird night. If you're a Habs fan, you go to this building like, okay, first thing you do, you know, you're cheering for, you're sharing for Mario. Yeah, that makes sense. But you're cheering for Marchand. you're cheering for Marner.

Like this much, this is like a, they're probably very conflicted, uh, pouring out onto the streets to booze it up on a Wednesday night in Montreal. Would have been a good night in Montreal. There's very few bad nights in Montreal. That is fair. That is fair.

Uh, let's let's get to the comment dumps. Jack, start wherever you want. Let's start ripping them. Here we go. It's a four three final. Canada gets two points. One point for the Swedes. Tomorrow is Finland, USA.

The Finns really dinged up. Uh, they brought in a guy. the blue line that I've never heard of who's played like 18 games at the Sends. Yuselamaki's playing a top four role, which at one point was a real thing. But at this point, I think is on that blue line. Yeah, they might bring in the paper. If these are the guys that they're bringing to the tournament,

who did they leave off? The answer is hardly, basically if you're a finished defenseman and you play the NHL at some point this season, they just sent you a plane ticket said get your ass to Montreal. We need you. Yeah, the unfortunate guy is Vinnie Heinola, who is the only guy in the NHL that did not get the call, sadly. But they've been, you know, raked over with injuries on the back end, wrist a line in a late, surprising injury to many. And that's the game tomorrow will watch is the high-powered Americans against that team.

So we'll leave the thought on the Americans and Finns front of the night. But back to the comments, Jack. Let's roll. This is from Sean. Do you think this first game will get more people to watch? They look like they all wanted it out there. Yeah, I said on the show, the main show, if the hockey's good, you can tweak everything else. And they announced the World Cup stuff. And I don't love in season.

But if you get guys trying like this, it doesn't matter when they can put it on the moon on a Monday at 9 a.m. And I'm going to watch, Pike. That was great hockey. Like you'd said it. That's one of the best five games you've seen in a year. Yeah. And it's, it's one of the things where folks are going to go to the office tomorrow. And instead of being like, oh, man, you just see this stupid Allster game.

It was so boring. Yeah. Guys weren't throwing hits. They weren't trying. People are going to go to work and talk to their buddies and be like, holy shit. Did you see that game? I guarantee you there are people texting their buddies who weren't watching this game going. Are you watching this?

Yeah. They're doing overtime. It's 10 minutes. Turn it on. Yeah, 100%. And I think immediately it's like, when do they play? next, what are we doing? Okay, it's Saturday at six. Plan accordingly.

It's going to be good. Americans. Don't sleep on Sweden versus Finland, the early game. That's good. Yeah, in prime time in Europe. I think that's going to be around what, 7 to 9 p.m. depending where we are in Europe for the Saturday game between the Swedes and Finns. Alwing and Anderson looked invisible tonight. I do like that comment because, as we noted, there must not have been.

cameras in the press box. How's Rasmus going to do with this? You understand his personality a bit. He did skate in a top four role. Gustav Forsling was under the weather and then was healthy enough to skate yesterday. Yeah, which caused a bit of a shuffle in the pairings. I mean, I think Rasmus was probably well aware of sort of the depth in the Swedish blue line.

I hope he gets to play it. I think the only upside, when it looked like it was going to be a trouncing, the only upside I could think of was, oh, okay, the Rasmusman. definitely gets in next game, right? This one, I don't know if they're going to rotate D or what they're going to do, but hopefully he gets in because it'd be, it'd be kind of a shame if he, you know, put in all the effort to make the team in and get a chance to play. Yeah, you, you want the mitis and the pinocaladas or playing.

What you don't want to be is popcorn in the rafters. Oh, and if someone gets hurt, Rasmus, we'll get right to you. Like, that's, that's tough. for the human. I get he's on it, you know, it's a team, it's a country.

I'm sure he's fine with it, but he wants to play. Yeah. You can make a similar case for Stanley Cup champion Sam Bennett. I mean, he was the extra guy for, for Canada.

And, you know, I think this is the first time that, that Sam has managed to, to work his way onto a senior level national team. And, you know,

the, actually, I don't know the, Sam didn't even make the world juniors because the year that, the year that, the year he would have made it. He went straight to the NHL. He had that surgery,

and then he went straight to the NHL year afterwards. So Sam never got a chance to play at the world juniors, to my recollection. So this might be the first time since the UA teams that Sam Bennett's been on a national team. So yeah, you hope that the guys, all these guys who worked so hard to make these teams, you would hope that there's maybe a gentleman's agreement that maybe they'll rotate everybody in just to get everybody a game. But I don't know. It's a competitive environment, so I don't know what they're going to do with that. Yeah. And let's be clear. I would expect Travis Sandheim to come in for Shea Theodore.

You don't get ruled out of a game if it's minor. And even if he is feeling great, you'd love to give him an extra couple of days. It's not like you're, well, now we're going to go to the American. No, no, it's another really good hockey player. It's Sanheim sliding in wouldn't be surprising at all for Saturday, would it? Not at all. Yeah. Okay, more comments.

What do we got, Jacko? 10 minutes overtime is so much better than five. And the shootout, by the way. Do you think this tournament increases the? the appetite for players, bringing 10 to overtime. Yeah, it's not just the players. It's the owners, too. Gary's very conscious of how long a game takes.

And I know Major League Baseball dealt with us a while ago with the pitch clock and then the extra innings rule. You don't want a four-hour block in people's lives in 2025. You want a crisp 240, 220, 250, like somewhere in there. And maybe this event is the window that says, says, look, this is better, let's do this. Or maybe the NFL says, yeah, I still don't need 10 minutes of no goal 3 on 3 and then a shootout because that just drags on. But what we saw tonight was not a bad exhibition for it.

Yeah. I think we got to, you also got to bear in mind that they also have the 3-2-1 points system too. So there's a bit, the incentive structure for letting it go to the distance is a little bit different. So, you know, I think I'll be blunt. Coaching ruined five on or three on three for five minutes. It was just once the coaches got their, their tendrils into that, uh,

it kind of made it a little bit more boring than it was. Uh, I think with 10 minutes of, of three on three, there's the, the danger that coaches would make it just, you know, five or minutes of dullness.

But I mean, if a game was good and he had 10 minutes of good stuff to it, it's going to stay good. Yeah. And 321 is just very obvious and makes sense. Uh, the NHL likes the artificial tightening of the, standings with the, oh, you want in regulation, you get two.

Oh, you went to overtime. We gave a point to the loser. You also get to. It doesn't really check out that some games are worth three points and others two, but it helps the business model when you're selling tickets in the regular seasons and TV ratings in the regular seasons. Oh, my team, they're only four out instead of a while they're eight out. So I get it.

But it's just at some point, we need to be logical with the point system in the NHL. 3-2-0 is how it should be. You don't want to game with two minutes left where teams are like, stay put, dump change. Oh, let's get to overtone. Okay, now we've got a point now. We'll try to win. That's all I know is soccer is the most popular sport in the world.

And you know what happens with that? You get three points for a win, one point for a draw. And there's no weird shootout BS. So that the standings are always sort of, you know, there's obvious separation. And people seem fine with it. Soccer is as popular, if not more popular than ever. And so I'd say, when in doubt, copy sports that are more popular than you.

All right. We've got Tyler your M-Chick joining us from Daily Face Off and Oilers Nation. I believe live in Montreal. Tyler, we have you. How are you? Where are you? How is your night been, sir? Good.

I'm in the heart of old Montreal. Just finished up our daily face-off live stream with Franken figured why not come on here and chop it up with you guys for a little bit. Okay. Look at that handsome man all dressed up. Tyler, you look great. Are you having fun out there? Yeah, it's a blast, honestly.

Like, just being in downtown Montreal all the day in the lead up to the game. Like, my excitement for this really grew kind of when I got to town on, you know, Saturday, Sunday, and then got the first round of player media vails done on Monday. And it was like, whoa, these guys, like, really want to be here. It's not just lip service. Like, you could tell they were dialed in. And then today, seeing all the Canada hockey jerseys. And then the crowd pop when they introduced Mario at Center Ice was bananas.

And when that happened, it's like, I had chills. And it was like, okay, I'm all the way in on this. I had heard that there was whispers that Lemieux might be there. And I was like, yes, that's the move. I hadn't thought of it. But the moment you mentioned that, you're like, okay, Quebecer, like Mount Rushmore player of all time is 2.18 points per game or 2.28, I think it was before his first retirement was like beyond Gretzky's, which is insane.

Like the only guy that really would have had a shot at Gretzky's numbers was Lemieux injuries and all that. You bring him back to Montreal. Now we got a building to play in for this tournament because there's no way any Montrealer with a pulse couldn't get out of their seat and scream when they saw him. And it was like, I had kid hockey tonight. I already told Ryan, I got them getting dressed, poked my head up by a TV. I'm like, oh, the me, yes, now we got a barn. This game's going to be unreal.

And then even from there, Canada getting a power play as early as they did when there's been so much talk about how deadly that five-man unit could possibly be. then they score 12 seconds in and McKinnon's all fired up and it's like, okay, now we know the atmosphere is here, like you said, now we know we've seen it for sure. The players are dialed in and they want this and the excitement of that Canadian group of five being like, okay, that works now too. Like we got a team here. Yeah, nice to roll out that quintet where it's like, okay, so the guy that's leading the league and scoring, the best player we'll watch in our lives. the best defenseman will probably watch on our lives. Oh, and that other guy who's got three cups and probably is the top five or six player of all time.

And Sam Reiner, that's a good group. Yeah, Sam Ryanner, 50 goals score from last year. Yeah, like, I'm sure John Cooper is sitting there with a big grin on his face and the Swedish head coach whose name is escaping her mouth sitting there going, okay, got to watch that guy. Oh, shit. Oh. Sam Halam. Sam Halam.

Oh, Black Bear, Sam. Sam Lam. That's his name. I don't know what it is. It's somewhere in the chorus there. Yeah. Yeah, again, quite something to see those guys do that. And that play that they did, that little Crosby, McDavid,

over to McKinnon on day one of practice, those five guys stayed out there, and they went and they did that basic exact play. I want to say like three or four minutes, just reps of it. So it was cool to see that as well. I love that the vibes are good. I think Mario puts it over the top for sure when you get in the building.

Then the game happens, and you see Canada just absolutely dominate the first. When did you say, okay, we got a game here? Was it the three-two goal? Was it like where are we at here when you're like, hang on now. This isn't over yet. Yeah, for me, it honestly kind of was that two one goal. Just I know he can sit here and go, did it deflect off a stick? I don't know.

I felt like it wasn't a great goal for Jordan Bittington to give up from the outside there. Decent shot. It's not the end of the world. But I kind of went, oh boy, like that Bittington is he going to be rattled now? And then I was sitting there thinking, okay, now you're looking at the shot clock. And Canada hasn't generated a lot here. Like they had something like 27 shot attempts in the first period. only, there's like 21 in the first period, then only 27 in the final 40 minutes.

I was like, okay, Canada's not producing right now. And now it's 2-1 and is Bittington rattled? That's where I started the second guess it a bit. And then when Raquel almost scored on that chance in front and Biddington bounced back with a big save, it was like, okay, I actually think they're good. And then it's 3-3 and you're like, oh, my God, the roller coaster of this whole thing. So I definitely rode the waves a little bit. But that 2-1 goal was kind of like, who, hey, you got to remember.

Sweden also has a team of maybe not Hall of Famers, although there's more than a few there, but they still got some stars. Yeah, lineup changes. It sounds like it's not going to be great news for Shea Theodore. I'm seeing people in the comments. I don't have it confirmed, but I'll put it this way.

I don't think I'd be surprised if we hear that Theodore is not available anytime soon. That would put Travis Sandheim into the mix. Would you rotate a forward in? Did you like the forward lines? And are you comfy going right back in net to Jordan Bennington? or do you say, hey, we got two cup winners on the roster. Let's see what Aden Hill looks like on Saturday. It's tough because, again, it's the 3-210 points.

So you didn't get all three points tonight. So there still is a lot of pressure on you beating Team USA. My gut tells me go with Bittington. Again, I know the margins are razor thin, but in a short tournament, I want him to get going and I don't want to diminish that confidence. If I mean like, hey, you're sitting on the bench. And then if we lose, we're going to put you right back in for a must win against Finland.

I loved the first line, obviously. Love the McDavid, Reinhart-Marner trio. I thought they were good. That third line was probably my favorite line to watch. Brad Marchand had a very, very good game. What I'm getting to is I didn't love the fourth line. On the ice for the two goals in the third. Travis Kinectney had a couple of just really bonehead plays in the first period that killed momentum.

I would go Kinectne out for Sam Bennett against the Americans. A little bit more jamming Sam paper down there is what I'd be looking for. So that's the one change I'd make. Ryan, walk me through the goaltending decision because Aiden Hill is no slouch. He's won a cut more recently than Mittington. And yeah, you could look at both guys, but it is the Americans as well.

And let's say Aden Hill doesn't have a great night. It puts you in a weird spot where both guys kind of don't feel good, doesn't it? Yeah. And I think I agree with Tyler. I think, you know, Biddington was in kind of a tight game, a pretty wild game at the end of it. He made one more save than the other.

guy did. And so I think you kind of have to ride your guy at this point. I mean, you know, he was good enough to be the starter for this game. And I think until he plays his way of that position, I think you kind of got to go with him again. Yeah, fair. I'd love to see Hill. But once they made Bittington the starter here, it's kind of like, well, made a couple big saves at the end. And it's a weird game to put someone fresh into. First game of the tournament and the Americans. They're not favorites. Your Remchuk, but I mean, it's close. I know on Bet365 who was presenting this program before the tournament started, it was Canada plus 140, America plus 150,

and jumping into some of the models that were out there in the public space, Canada's very slight edge was only based on having home ice through the round Robin, which gets them a better probability of getting into the final. They're pretty much, we're talking 51, 49, 52, 48, like, this isn't a weak Finland team with three defenders. We didn't think we're going to be here that they're facing next game. Yeah, exactly. And it's part of the reason why, I mean, I tried to put my hockey analyst cap on for my predictions. And I said, I think the Americans are going to win this thing only because, and maybe it is more justified after watching Canada, I don't think Connor Hellebuck gives up two of the three goals that Jordan Biddington gives up. And if you know the forward group is this close in terms of how they stack up to each other. And you know the decores, even without Quinn Hughes, are still pretty close. If the gap in goaltending is, and I know if people are listening on the podcast, it won't make sense. But it's this close, not this close. close, but then you've got to go with the team who was the bigger edge and the most important

position. So yeah, I mean, nice to have a couple of days off. Frank Saravali did confirm that Cheyodor is going to miss the rest of the tournament, by the way. So obviously a big loss for the Canadians there. But when the margin of error, when the margin is that, is that thin, I go with the team who has a Hall of Fame goaltender. Yeah, fair enough. Tyler, thanks so much for your help. Appreciate it. Do us a favor. Have a cold beverage. Because if we were in Montreal, we will. I hear there's at least one or two good places near, near Bell Center to get a cold beverage. Yeah.

I, uh, I did send our fearless leader and CEO, Jay Doughton on a beer run right before I did this. I said, Jay, I'm doing one more hit. I'm being a good company, man. I need a case of beer when I'm done. And it's, Jay, Jay needs to do a little bit of hard work every now and then. That guy's got his life is too easy. You need to put him to work. Beer run.

Yeah, make him throw on his ugs and go for a beer run. First of many. Tyler, thank you. Appreciate it. This was kind of a spontaneous thing they came together late. Tell us about the shows you've got going on for what?

The next like 15 days? It's wild. 10 days? Yeah, it is crazy to think that the final. I mean, the final is seven days away. So I'll be in Boston for the final. But Frank and I live noon Eastern 10 a.m. Mountain time every single day,

daily face off YouTube. So you can go find that live on location. We got guests coming through and all of that. And not that I'm sure Flames fans want to listen to me, talk Oilers, but I'm also doing my Euler show every day as well. But D.F. A lot. That's the one you won't want to miss with the big man, Frank Zerevoli. Oilers. Oilers. Doesn't ring a bell. Okay. Anyway, thanks for your time, Tyler. Appreciate it. Canada. Canada, Canada.

This is McDavid. Don't even know where he came from, but he looks like a player. We should look into his rights pike. See if he's available. Yeah, it's fun to cheer for him, right? It sure is. Thanks, buddy. Appreciate it. See you guys. There's Tyler, your Remcheck from the Daily Faceoff crew in Montreal. And as you saw there, JP Wisers and Bat 365 presenting their coverage all week

from Not Just Montreal. This hurts from Boston as well. From Boston? You know who's from Boston? Two great cities, Pike. You know who's from Boston? NHLPA head Marty Walsh. That's right.

Yes. Old Union head there that fights for his people. Before, about, I think about an hour and a half before they, they kicked off this tournament. They talked about the future.

They being, I believe it was Ron Hainsey and Marty Walsh from the NHLPA, Bill Daley and our old friend Gary Patman from the NHL. Strange, we haven't heard a lot from Gary and Bill around these parts since the building you know, since we dug the hole,

they don't need to come here and visit or anything. What's the monies? Yeah, yeah, no. Calgary doesn't want a rink anymore. They're not looking for a rink. But I don't know how to get Trump, but the hands are here. They've, they've, they've, they've mapped out the, the international calendar for the next few years.

So, uh, I believe 2026, uh, the Winter Olympics are going to be in, uh, Milan and, uh, Cortina de Pazzo. I, I, I, I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm bad enough of speaking English, so I won't try to speak Italian. But, uh, NHL players would be February 2026, a year from now, uh, at the Winter Olympics. Uh, and then two years after that, February 2028, they, they, they, announced the World Cup of Hockey's coming back. Which is great and totally unsurprising. And again, everyone's biggest complains. It was just four countries.

Like, well, okay, understand what they're trying to do here. Look at the big picture, the long view. It was always going to be a World Cup in those even numbered years between the Olympics. And so the next one of those is 2028. It'll be a slam dunk. And apparently they're looking at games in North America and Europe. And that's what this tournament needs. It sounds like eight teams.

I think there's a possibility that they'll have four, teams playing games in Europe and four teams playing games North America. So, you know, and then they'll be doing obviously another Olympics in the French Alps in 2030, another World Cup of hockey in 2032. If you're going to put on your conspiracy theory hat, the, the saddle home will be leaving us at the end of the 26, 27 season. The flames have a building that's opening in 2027. The world where there was, I think when, before they had time,

timelines nailed down for construction for the arena. There was talk that maybe Calgary would be involved with the Alberta bid. I believe the World Juniors Christmas 26 going into 2027 will be, I believe in Edmonton, I think they're also doing some games in Red Deer. I think they're finalizing that. But there was a possibility that could be in Calgary that won't be in Calgary because the building won't be open in time. But if you're putting on your hat and going, hmm, if you have a brand new building and

you, the newest building in the league, you missed out on hosting all these fancy things that Edmonton got to do. I wouldn't put, I have no inside information, but I would highly suspect that the folks who run Scotia plays would be highly interested in potentially throwing their hand into the ring to host an event such as the World Cup of hockey in 2028. I don't know if they, if they have expressed interest. I have no inside information. There's just me baselessly speculating.

But if you connect the dots in terms of timelines, in terms of things that didn't quite line up for the world juniors the year before. It seems like there could be a fit there. So I agree. That's something pretty cool. New rink. And again, it's not going to be a one or two city hub.

You're going to have a chance to throw out a few different places. I wouldn't be surprised if you had like a Calgary hub, or St. Paul hub, and then you've got, let's say, Stockholm and a place in Germany. And it'll be interesting to see how they whittled down to eight teams. Because as we know, that's going to be the thing. Seven's easy.

If Russia's out of the penalty box, your seven hockey countries are very easy. You need a bit of a plan because you've got the Latvia's, the Denmarks, the Belaruses, the Kazakhstan, the Austrias. Like there's a lot of countries that can be the eighth best in the world.

You can have a full process for that. You can need some of these other national agencies, the national teams, to cooperate because like this tournament was, we're shutting out of the NHL for two weeks, only the NHL and only NHL players involved. So if you take out Russia, you have five, you have five countries

with enough NHL players and Finland barely made it. And so if you expand it to include Czechia, you might be able to squeeze enough NHL players at a check yeah. Maybe you have to bring in some AHL guys to fill it out. But to get beyond five or six countries, you're going to need, you know,

if you want Germany, Switzerland, whoever else, you're going to need to work with the AAHF and the other international agencies to get to coordinate some international breaks. So potentially it can be really cool. Yeah, I mean, the Scotia Place has many, many locker rooms, and you can send the Wranglers and the Hitman on a two or three week road trip without really batting an eye and the scheduling wouldn't be too bad if the NHL shuts down.

So we'll see what happens, but it seems like it could be a fit. And it can be kind of cool and selfishly. I think it would be fun to cover. Yeah. But yeah, it's going to be fun. We're, you know, we're international best on best being a regular thing is something that, I think everyone wants, but everyone wants it, I think, to be in a sort of predictable way. So people can plan their lives, players, fans, media.

So, you know, this is, I think it's pretty exciting to hear that everything is moving in that direction. And apparently, also things are going pretty well with the CBA early talks. You know, we saw the, the cap stuff announced a week or so ago. And then it sounds like they're going to be just digging into that stuff, uh, when after the four nations is over. So you never know. I'm not used to not having lockouts. It's peace in our time is not something we're used to.

Yeah, we're used to labor unrest. Is this labor arrest or whatever you call? I don't know what it's called. Labor slumber. Unrest was not fun. We missed a lot of hockey. Let's get more questions. We kind of went on a NHLPA,

NHL, International Best on Best Tangent there. Jap, let's, Jap, Jack, sure, whatever we call you. Have I come down with Four Nations fever? anyone that's been watching the show, I've been excited about this event for a while. And it was everyone else that their poopie pants on about this or that. But at the end of the day,

there's no other format where you get to put the Kachuk brothers, the Hughes brothers, Austin Matthews, all in the same team, or, you know, McKinnon, Crosby, McCar, McDavid, all in the same team. These are the best hockey teams we will have a chance to watch in our lives, the best on best.

It's not, you know, a Tuesday when the Panthers play the Oilers. It just, I understand the cup is amazing. And we all love that, but this is a tournament that should be held very regularly or some, you know, facsimile of this tournament. And that's what was announced today. I'm a big fan of that. Is this unequivocally better than the all-star?

Come on. Yes. Yes. All-Star game. Please. I think Corgi's riding skateboards downstairs is more entertaining than the all-star game. That's pretty entertaining, to be fair. I made the Pinder report the other day.

And next, what we got, Jack? It's ripped through here. what do you think of McDavid's performance tonight? I think he needs a new line mate. He wasn't great. I mean, he was McDavid. So, of course, he was very good. But to McDavid's standards, I was looking at the game scores, which aren't everything,

but he was middle of the pack. It was Crosby's night. It was Marchand's night. McKinnon was excellent. But I don't worry about that in the sense that I'm not worried about a great McDavid, what would you call it, a slump for this turn. I just don't think that's up. The McDavid regression.

Yeah, right. I don't worry about that. But no, it was his best game. And Sweden had home ice, so Sweden got to line match. And, you know, if you're going to line match against someone, I mean, dry saddle is not in this tournament. So if you're lining match against anyone, it's going to be McDavid. Fair.

Let's keep rolling. That was from Al. Thank you, Al. We got a super chat. We got a super chat. Jack, super chats. Benefit the youth centers of Calgary. Great.

Charity in our city, help of kids. That's just a hot meal. learning an instrument, reading a book, hanging out with friends, playing sports. That's some downtime between school when your family gets home. You send us in Calgary helping so many lives in our city. So the 269 Eric sends in, yeah, goes to them. And I agree with this comment. USA Canada's going to be insane.

It's the two best rosters we've seen on ice probably since the Sochi games. Yeah, 6 p.m. on Saturday night. Let's go, not 11 a.m. If you, guys, if you're sickos like me, this is how, this is how my Saturday is going. I will not apologize for being a sicko. 11 a.m. is Finland, Sweden. Then going to the Wranglers game. Ranglers play an afternoon game against the Ontario rain. And the Ranglers are beefed up because they got some players, but down from the flames. And then when that game's over, I'm haul and ass home and watching Canada USA at 6. If you want to do that, too, good seats are still available for the, for the Wranglers. And it's a, it's a family friendly price tag. And if you want to pick and choose, there's no bad choices on Saturday. There's nothing about good stuff going on.

And as Pinder mentioned, Bentland, Sweden, very underrated. That's going to be a fun game. And neighboring countries, it's good stuff when those two countries face off. It might not mean it to North Americans, but the intensity will be high for sure for that morning. You're also going to slide in some O.HL action. I know you, you're sicko. You're not done there. There's intermissions.

That's right. Classic pike. Okay. more. Did we like the post-trade deadline teaser of Crosby? Oh my God, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please. Hockey gods, if you're listening, please, please, please, please, please, everyone loves Crosby and knows he's loyal. No Penguins fan's going to be upset at Crosby. Please let him go to Colorado, Ms. McKinnon. Sorry, just spaced out there. I don't know what happened. Back to you, Ryan, answer the question. I don't, I doubt we're going to see Crosby play for anyone with Pittsburgh, but it's funny. It's fun to dream. It is really fun to dream.

Jack was telling about this dream. Well, we'll get to that later. Next question. What about this? From another Sean, different Sean, different spelling. After seeing a game, what lines would you like to see them try? You'd be better suited to answer this, Ryan. It was interesting your Rempchak went out of his way to note that wasn't in love with the game for Travis Kineckney.

So I think there will be an opportunity to the bottom six. If you like the top six, although it sounded like it was line one and line three that you didn't want to touch. So maybe there are some movements between Soirelli's line and McDavid's line. Yeah, I'd throw Bennett on that fourth line. I think that could be good because then, you know, then you have a nice little mix. But, you know, I also think you're, you know, depending on game situations, I mean, you know, John Cooper's got an embarrassment of riches and, you know,

based on his time with Tampa, he's not afraid to tinker. So if they're playing, say, the United States on Saturday night and things aren't really Meshon. I don't think he's going to be in any, you know, I don't think he's going to lack the fortitude, just go, screw it. Putting Ken and McDavid and Crosby on the same line, let her rip. And I think that'll be fun to watch. Yeah, a lot of people are saying, oh, he'll never leave piss for me. Maybe, maybe, maybe. But it's not like if he did, he couldn't come back. That's the other thing. Like, Ray Bork is not remembered as an avalach. He did that and everyone understood. I find it very similar aside from the fact that Sid's already got three

rings and Ray Bork had zero, but if you wanted to leave for your 20, well, your 39 year old, 38 year old, like I get it. I get it. A handsome damn checking in with a super chat. 10 bucks. Banger job boys. Would Pike like to see called up on D for the flames next? Oh, very flamesy question.

Ooh. In Solov, just to clear up, was returned to the Wranglers just for the break? I bring solo back. I've I've been solo has been the lack of a veteran their pairing fixer with the wranglers he's play he was propping up Tyson Barry for a couple of games when he was getting his legs under him yoni yurmo played his first few games with uh with solo so you know

ilios lovia he's there's nothing flashy about his game but if we're looking for like a third pair guy that can sort of you know provide some balance he's really good i think the x factor here is i mean the reason i think he works so well with anderson in that last game against Seattle, the first goal notwithstanding, is because he, if you're going to try to replicate Kevin Ball, he's the next best thing. But if Kevin Ball is back after the break,

I don't know if you really need him as much. But, you know, I'd say, I'd say, you know, the two guys and the Wranglers, I'll give me a bonus one. The two guys and Wranglers, I think that have most deserved a look at the NHL level, have been William Strongren and Ilius Sloviev. And, you know, Stronggren is a forward in Solov as defenseman.

But we've seen Solovia, of and through 11 games in the NHL, he's been quite good. He's never looked bad. And I think he's the ideal depth defenseman. Okay. Anything else, Jack? Someone is saying we got to try for an afternoon record. No, we're not doing it. Handsome Dan, another five bucks are you said

just a Calgary. Thank you. I got a tinkle. I'm squirming. I'm shaking. Yeah. I can do this for another three minutes. Like, we're tap pretty quick. Handsome Dan, we love you. Please, please keep the donations coming. We need places to go with these post shows after this

You can't start off up here because then you have nowhere else to go. You have to be able to build. And so if we do a long show tonight, where do we go for the championship game? We just run the show straight through. To open the tournament pike, this can be, this can be a nice little 400 meter dash. That's fine by me. Exactly. There can go.

Okay. Please. Another five bucks. I answer is no. We will have a full barn burner tomorrow, handsome death. And thank you for the donations. I know you get the itchy, the hot wall. at burning a hole in your pants with the flames off for a while.

Because I know with the generous donations you're making, the youth centers of Calgary for every Justin Wolf win and shutout, et cetera. So we appreciate you, but not today. Not tonight's not our night. I saw that. You're being polite. Thank you. But no.

Pender Pike, how long do you think before Crosby calls it quits? He doesn't have anything left to achieve. Oh, he didn't play like he had nothing left to play for. I'll tell you that. As long as you don't keep going. I think of the very much. Like you said it.

He's, he's not in the peak of his powers, but at whatever percentage of his power is he is, you could make a strong case he was the best player on the ice today. Yeah. Yeah. He was a, he was a capital D difference maker.

Yeah. And I would say if you're him, you're looking forward to 2026 and going, I can make that team. Oh, hell yeah. You know what? Yeah.

And then at that point, once you bring home another gold medal, then you go, okay, what's left to do? But, you know, I'd say, if you're Siddi Crosby,

you know, You go until you don't really want to go anymore, but he's, you know, I think, I think we still have a few years left of him. I agree. Yeah. No, he, what is? He signed the three-year deal this past summer. So this year one of three, or is it one of two on an extension?

I can't remember. Yeah. A super Penn's fan, Jack producing tonight. Jack, we're not near the end of Sid yet, are we? Not even close. Did you just watch the game? Exactly. Exactly.

another super chat, Dave, checking in. After the juniors, we needed this start. Well, I mean, you could have used a 6-2 win. That minus 1 and a half. Yeah, it's a nice result. It's two points, not three. But what it really showed was that, yes, Canada still does have incredibly elite talent. And it'd been a while since we saw the best men for Canada playing on the same team.

Last call for Jack, the producer, who's handling the comments. We'd love to go longer. but again, Tinkle time presses. So apologies and condolences. And you're welcome as well. Because Jack threw this together the last minute. Great idea. Just don't care guys.

About the Russians, it does not seem like a real tournament, even if it's about as exciting as a spectator. Come on. You're here. Don't pretend you didn't like it. Oh, the Russians who always flamed out at the tournaments when the best teams were there. They're not here.

Yeah, kind of like the Olympics in Sochi, in Vancouver. And other Olympics like what? Salt Lake. Have they played in a gold medal when best on best has been there for a while? Like, I'm, am I missing something? I'm trying to,

I'm going backwards. It's like, Sweden, Sweden won in Italy, Canada won in Vancouver and in Sochi. It was amateurs in Beijing and Pyongchang. Like, you miss Russia?

Okay. Like, they got good players, but it's not like Canada's missing from the tournament or teams to actually win the thing. You get, you know, You know why the Stanley Cup is the best trophy in sports? Because it's preceded by the best tournament in sports.

It's basically two months of trench warfare with teams beating the crap out of each other and then giving each other handshakes at the end of it, which I absolutely love. Best sport in the world. Would it be more fun if Canada or the U.S. or whoever had to, you know, defeat more rivals on their way to wherever the hell the trophy is called this time? Yeah, it'd be more fun. And that's why enough to say. It doesn't make it not fun when cool, when fun stuff happens.

You know, it's, it's the first draft of what they're doing. It's a baby step towards full on international competition. And maybe at that point, Russia will stop doing the things that Russia is doing that got them pulled out of international competitions in the first place. So I'm totally with you. I think, you know, if you don't invade other sovereign nations, you're here. And it's not a 14 tournament. It's probably six or seven or eight. Yeah, I love, I love their anthem.

though you get it get you know rush russia winning a tournament or a or a game and then you have like you know that the bellowing anthem which sounds like it's sound it's an anthem that this plays and you hear that sent and go oh god they're going to try to invade aren't we so you know that's just the russian anthem is up there with anthems and you know hopefully uh the next time we hear it it's under a circumstance where we're not kind of grimacing at the fact that they're being being dummies yeah i think we saw another super check come in jack and And I agree. It's antham with many crescendos, Ryan.

This game answered so many questions. That from J-deep. What questions did it answer for you, Ryan? Like, for me, I wasn't worried a lot about the level of play, but I think for a lot of people, they were. Like, do these guys actually care? If you watch tonight, it'd be really hard to pretend they didn't care. You'd have to be, like, really, really, really not paying attention

or convinced convincing yourself something that's not true. I'm, I was worried that it would be sort of a no hitter. And there was some scrappiness, there was some physicality, there was some shot blocking. Like it didn't feel like an all-star game.

And I think it sets a really high bar and a good tone for the rest of the tournament because if you were up the US and Finland watching that game at your hotel or your lot, where the hell they're watching it, you go, okay, we got to, we got to match that. level of intensity for Thursday's game.

So I think it bodes really good for the rest of the tournament. Yeah, very well. Any of the supers are we good? They want to keep me up. I just caught my second win. I'm fine. But unless it's a super chat, we're shutting this thing down.

I'm sorry. You're good to shut her down. Shut it down. Shut her down. Shut her down. A big shout out to Talia. Your Emcheck jumping on daily faceoff. DFO is going to be live from Montreal and Boston for the next week.

and he does shows on another YouTube channel that you don't need to watch unless you're a sicko and want to watch boiler stuff too. But. Thanks for that though, Pike. Four Nations broadcasts live on location from Montreal and Boston. Brought to you by Bet365 and Wisers, JAPE, WISers. Appreciate that. Thanks for all of you joining us today.

We may try this again. Who knows? Jack, I'm going to go Tinkle. See you, buddies.