Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - The Calgary Flames Are About To MESS This Up… 🤦‍♂️ | BB Clips

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

Boomer, Pinder and Rhett dive into the Calgary Flames’ recent stretch of strong play, winning three straight games and showing signs of life, but question what it actually means for the team’s dir...ection. While the wins are encouraging, the guys debate whether this late push is doing more harm than good, as Calgary slips further out of a top draft position and away from a true tank, sparking a bigger conversation about whether the Flames are stuck in the middle and what the right path forward really is.Video Link: https://youtu.be/wei0UFrQnQY#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #nhlpicks #stanleycup #stanleycupfinal #torontomapleleafs #calgaryflames CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️BARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 I've had a bit of bad run here the last week. We feel for you. And I don't want the negativity to continue on and, you know, get back on the horse and right off into the sunset, so to say. Are we willing to, because the flames are screwing us by winning these games. But with Bender's math that he was going to, and I don't know if he ever did end up doing, do we really care if it's second or third or? Well, that's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:00:32 It's a good question. You know what? It's complacency can happen fast. You kind of just assume that things are going a certain way and that's how it's going to go. Well, three in a row is not, you know, and the cards. Well, again, we can look at the standings, I guess. If, uh, because that's all that's, that's all we have now. The math will math.
Starting point is 00:00:57 That's all we have. The team is going to do what they do. The, uh, the other teams are going to do what they do. All we can sit is. as observers just sit here and oh you guys got that envelope to Gary when he was in town we filled that with change we found in our couches and just add it to the pile
Starting point is 00:01:15 need your help with the lottery balls here so I mean on one hand tied 65 points it's really no different you're you have a share of 31st place in the national hockey league but there have been two teams that you've leapfrogged in other that hold upside down tie breaks yeah that have some different tie breaks and what have you. You see 464s and 65s and 70s and there's some 26s and 28s. So what it is is, you know, flames of won three in a row.
Starting point is 00:01:45 And they have now moved up to 29th. Don't like it. Saboteur was at it again last night? Yes, he was the saboteur. Oh, and he's given great quotes. Oh, everybody's just captivated by these post-games things. Oh, he's so funny. Hey, put a sock in it, dude.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Where's Prasvitz off? Where is that guy? Sit this coolly down this show. Don't you? Cron is in the building. Seriously. We'll hit down there. Right in front of you. You can't miss him.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Why don't you pop by my house in the northeast? We'll give you a little taste of the retro cold medicine. That's right. Settle down, coolly. That's right. Did not have, you know, because we, you know, strength of schedule and you start, look ahead here. Boy, did not have Tampa Bay, Carolina in the wind columns when we start.
Starting point is 00:02:37 of this exercise. There is something in common with those two. They both had big emotional wins in Edmonton the night before. And ditto, Carolina. Everyone hates Edmonton. Everyone. Everyone wants to punch him in the face.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Edmontons. I don't think Matthew Kichuk's fond of it. Adel Burton's hate Edmontons. Yes. I'm not even sure Leon likes it. I mean, he got out of there as soon as he could. I'm hurting. So I'll be gone.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Oh, you don't want the horse doctor helping you out? We're over at North Lions. He's like K days. He's the greatest festival city in the world. What are you doing? No, the flames, what are you going to say? I mean, you know, come on, I'll think. You tip your cap, but you also get a little nervous about.
Starting point is 00:03:23 No, but I want to actually talk about the science of it, Ryan, because you're good at science. I don't want to talk about the. Okay, fire away. What's your science question? I'll pretend to be good at science. We have not very often drafted in the top. The Tankathon, Spin the Wheel to win, thing of a jiggy.
Starting point is 00:03:37 has not produced excellent results anyway. Four has been the most common outcome, yeah. And so your question is, are we kind of pissing into the wind? Like if we finish third or fourth, our odds are of the. Do you want to try it now, Jack? Do we want to try the old Tankathon right now?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Let's do it right now. We've got to switch things up. Because if you're second and you got, oh, we got a whatever, 13, 9% whatever to finish in the first, now we're, but then you have to tumble on the fourth. Well, if you're in fourth, and what are the percentage chances you just stay in four? fourth. Not good.
Starting point is 00:04:11 We've also seen a lot of teams well behind the flames when they were second from the bottom winning the lottery. Like the end of the day is the odds of the odds, it's just, what are the lottery balls doing that day? You're going to get lucky or not? Because even Vancouver, they've only got a 25% chance picking first. They are dog shit. They are far and away the worst team in the league. And there's a 75% chance they will pick two or three. Like it's just, that's what the lottery is. And you hope the sun's shining on the flames on May 5th. Gary knows this, right?
Starting point is 00:04:40 He's well aware. Yeah. And again, it all goes back to those idiots ringing bells in kids' ears. They had to screw up this whole lottery thing where we had to keep switching it. Once again, you're right. Edmonton's.
Starting point is 00:04:54 So there it is. You see that's, that's, so the standings. So they lost 4.1% over the weekend. I don't like that. Okay, so what is the most likely outcome from here? Now that you're four,
Starting point is 00:05:08 I think the aggregate total of the top three is likely one of those top three teams will get one of the lottery polls if you're ignoring yourself. So I would think you're most likely outcome is five. Do we want to spitballing? I know we only ever, I know you are just kind of talking out here. Well, there's numbers there so you can you can add them, but it's. We usually do one a day. Do we want to do five quick ones here? Five.
Starting point is 00:05:32 A five banger? Just because this is new. Yeah, and they're in a new spot. So fair enough. Just to kind of give us. Okay. So we know what two means. Two is kind of shown, it could be four.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Good chance could be four. Well, what does now, what does four mean? Six. We'll do a week's worth here in an incredible rate. Harry. Fall to six. Fall to six. Congrats St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Yeah. Number two, fall to six. Winnipeg wins. And Florida moves up. That's good for them. Nice for them to finally get something to cheer a boat. Down to five is. Vancouver wins.
Starting point is 00:06:12 That's nice for the losers out west. Yeah. All right. Florida. Good Lord. Two. Down to five. Two five's two six.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Seattle. And now six. A six. Yeah. Yeah. I think we know what the most likely outcomes are. The strength of schedule thing is a thing. They still have a lot of the teeth.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Like they don't sudden. have an easy schedule now that they played Tampa, Florida, St. Louis, the first year of games, this homestand. St. Louis was one of the easiest teams are going to play outside of Vancouver. Speaking of which they picked, they got, they twice won in those five polls. Yeah, the sun's going to shine on someone, right?
Starting point is 00:06:59 Like, uh, they've got three left with Colorado, two left with a very hungry L.A. team that is fighting for their lives. Yeah, but they're no good. Sort of that, yeah, but again, looking down at the flames and the standings. But I mean, it's, we can, you can, you can, Two against Anaheim, actually one against Sanaham,
Starting point is 00:07:16 I'm trying to win division, another in Dallas, also Utah, Vegas, who's also not very good. But again, they had three wins in all of April, and now they have three more in a row. I don't know. Do we feel like they're due to win four in a row? Like they're just that good right now, or no? Because they've had teams come in that,
Starting point is 00:07:42 A, one of the worst teams in the league in St. Louis, and the B teams that played the night before ran their backups and didn't look good. I'm not sure what, yeah, like, is it, is it just, that's a nice run of teams that come in tired on a long road trip? Because they're going to go play six on the road, their dog shit on the road. Yeah, like, it's kind of a fool's area trying to get them to get them. They could win the next three games by the looks of it. Against the Kings, they've lost three straight. Anaheim's been a little more up and down as of late, and we know what Vancouver.
Starting point is 00:08:15 is. Yeah. And the desperation they're going to see if McKings is unlike anything they've seen in a while here. Like that is each little bit matters. Has to get her going. And they picked up a loser point yesterday, if I'm correct. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Saboteur. Please, did someone give Gary an envelope when he was here? Please. We're going to be some pissed off, though, if like, they did win the next three games and ended up draft an eighth. I don't know how much more upward movement room there is. Are they close to Winnipeg yet? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Yeah, but if you. Three in a row would help for sure. Yeah. Feels like we're kind of bummed out. I know. That's why I was trying to find some positivity. There's nothing to be had. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:09:16 The kicker is, here's the thing. It's like, if you get rid of Anderson, get rid of a week or get rid of these guys, then it's all going to come around. And it kind of has because they were. fourth fish in the new autumn. You get rid of these guys, it's all going to come around. Congrats to Olifson on goals and back-to-back games. And what happened in overtime, Jack?
Starting point is 00:09:37 Is there it? Can we take a peek over? Because they did get to overtime. I know Tampa Bay they scored late. They need some points. They're in a battle for seating in their, okay, so overtime. As long as it wasn't that Olofson again. Oh, it's Strome this time. The seventh round throw-in deal. he's been good there's more
Starting point is 00:10:02 the main thing to talk about in this goal is the guy with the puck at the moment but the best player but it is interesting yeah Olson scores a couple in back to back and Strome gets the winner
Starting point is 00:10:11 and okay well I guess it's just it's going to be what it is I can look you're happy for these guys look at the crowd they're on their feet they're standing up the guy was very good last night
Starting point is 00:10:22 guys were feeling good it was a look at the idiot goalie coming up flying down the ice here cool it Skippy. He's excited. Watch. Oh, Jack, does he?
Starting point is 00:10:40 I can see my kid. Oh, my God. Is your kid there? Yeah. He's wearing a Flames Tuk. Black Tuk. I'm not with him? I'm like a row away. I just went inside with the other dad. He's got some nachos and leave him alone. Now we're just watching TV. Gridden's unreal, man. I honestly, maybe the best story.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Kooley's a sensational story. I just don't know how much to believe in it because of goalie and everything that goalie. Like, do we believe Alex Lyon's going to be a starter somewhere next year? No. Is he having a great year? Yes. Cooley had six games in the NHL before this year. Six. And shit his pants in preseason.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And looked awful in the preseason. Awful. Great story. But for Gridden, it's like very different. You're not talking about a 29-year-old who's just popped. Like he, this is his 19-year-old season. He has just turned 20 and he already looks like their best winger. Which game was it? in overtime. I mean, he scored the shootout winner. What game was that? St. Louis?
Starting point is 00:11:38 I'm trying to, when Huska said, he kind of gave him the old... I'm looking at you, coach. Are you going to put me out there yet? Or what do I put some out there and he wins the game? And that line was really good in Detroit, the last of the road trip as well. So it's three of the last four games. He's been awesome. The St. Louis game was his worst. He had 1247 or something, and then they used him in the shootout. There's not yet. I don't know if people are still upset because the minutes still or not crazy. 1350 last night.
Starting point is 00:12:07 But then you watch that play. And it's kind of like, I don't know if it's the answer, but seeing the way he's playing, if Huska looks at it and says, 14 minutes is about what, that's the sweet spot for this kid right now. Okay. I don't know if he plays 22. Is it, you know, is he that much better?
Starting point is 00:12:26 Is it that, I don't know. But, I mean, that play there, he's holding off a defender. He's one arm in the stick. two hands, backhand pass. It's three on three, but that's a highly skilled play from a kid
Starting point is 00:12:41 in the national hockey league. We have said many things on this show. I continue to talk with the last two draft class, and you always say, I don't care where these picks are. You've got a hit on your picks. Matt Vigridden supports both those things. That was a late first round pick for two months of Pouty Lindholm and you got
Starting point is 00:13:01 Pristevich and you somehow weaseled Fairby and Frost with the Kuznetsov piece plus Palce like Connie's done some very good work here. If I was buying a jersey good. You getting gridden? Yeah. The gritty. I'm not ridden. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:19 I would. I agree. Right? If you're going down to the dome and you're going to watch the game and you're moved to Calgary and I'm going to be a fan, who are you buying? Yeah. I mean, Wolf, him. Wolf. Yeah. Like that's Coronado, sure. But I think he's past Coronado.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I think he's already. or I'm more excited about Gridden's upside mode and some of that's just because he hasn't played as much. He could be fine too, but I don't think that Coronado has the hockey IQ that Gridden has. I agree. I think he's more one dimensional in the sense that he's a great shooter and that, you know, he can be a good F1, but Gridden can create his own chances. I think you're going to see Coronado have his big year when you put him next to a really,
Starting point is 00:14:00 really high end distributor because he's a trigger man, right? Yeah. Whereas Gridden, you're like, he's playing with Frost and that's worked. Frost has never been a big point guy and that's been their best line since they put them together with Coronado. Strong. Like we were looking at 6-2, 200 or whatever. Skates well. Awesome shot.
Starting point is 00:14:23 You watch him fight off the check one-on-one. It's exciting. Nice. Yeah, it's a good story. And that's kind of why it's the mixed emotions thing because you'd love to say, just be awful, be bad. look what Vancouver's doing. It looks like they are so far away in Vancouver. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I know. It's synch. Blanky time. Oh, that's better. Got of slight chill. This show. What's that mask on the wall? Can we zoom out again?
Starting point is 00:14:54 From South Africa, right? Is that Kamala the Ugandan giant? Yeah. You did one of those eyes wide shut parties there? What's going on with that mask? Oh, we were just the... the dance and the summer showers on the coast of South Africa.
Starting point is 00:15:09 It was amazing. There was four after you swam with the sharks. A couple days before. Okay. A couple days before. Yeah, Hans by. Hans by. Great spot.
Starting point is 00:15:20 You guys should try and get in there one day. Yeah, I was thinking about getting there soon. Sounds like a jet fuel is cheap. Time to travel. Yeah. Good time to get on jets. It's got to see Africa right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So the flames get a win. three three straight four and two in their last six crushing it way to go fellas love you come on kings how good would it be to have conray come in and actually talk to us we wouldn't even crack just it's anything you can do to kick husk in the nuts and slow them down a little bit i had an idea i got a real good idea uh coolly week to week scolding with uh hurt fields and Prasvatov up. Ding. That would feel like the tanking.
Starting point is 00:16:12 That would be Buffalo 1415 level of tanking, which we haven't seen in the league since then. It was the McDavid year, and they literally traded guys when they played well. This is not that. You know what? Dean, yeah, it's Ryan's fault.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Me? Because what Ryan needs to do, being the professional that he is, he's not a casual, Dean. Not sure you heard. He's not a casual. So in real professional, professional, a non-casual, he would be researching the players that are going to be available
Starting point is 00:16:41 in the 6, 7, 8 range, which is where we're going to be drafted again. That's right. What Gold really likes this curse and girls. I get real excited about that. Yeah. Well, and this is when you said, like, what, you know, if they pick, let's say you finish second from the bottom, you slide back one to three. You're like, okay, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:16:56 How different is the player you're getting at three than you are at six? And that's a question that, you know, you, the NHL team. who have the best people in the world working on it would vary wildly on. So we don't have an answer, but. Well, NFL teams fail miserably all the time at this. And I think that is. Especially a quarterback. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Yeah. And NBA, it's like you can pick a guy first and you can be a superstar for 20 years. You can be a nobody. It's baseball. You see superstars drafted later, not early all that time. Is that his thing? Big country? Yeah, Brian.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Brian. Yeah. Great Raptor. Love them. So just so. So the difference between three and six is negligible. Well, I'm asking. I'm literally saying I don't know the answer.
Starting point is 00:17:41 There seems to be, like it used to be this thought that there was three at the top. It was Verhof, Stembourg, and McKenna. But now you're hearing this Reed defenseman, Carson Carls. He's good. Right? Like, I don't know. Like, I see some rankings where they're ahead of Verhof. I've said from the day one, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:59 You've been all because Mike Commodore wants to lay claim to fame that he's the catalyst for Verhoff. He's the Verhof whisperer, yeah. I know people in the States that think he's a hell of a player, but not a top five. Some of the comps I've seen, it's like somewhere between Ekblad and Perangelo, which is a very, very good defenseman, but not a superstar, fair.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And the Stembourg comp that I like, and we saw him last night, so it helps is Gensel. You're like, oh, okay, that's a pretty lethal piece to add. Panarin is the latest comp I saw. on McKenna. Again, these are just one person's opinion, but they're more informed than we are, and it fits sort of their skill set. So Panarin isn't going to beat you with elite speed
Starting point is 00:18:44 and power so much as his IQ and finding teammates. That's what McKenna does. I honestly don't know. Here's a question. Here's another question. I'm sure. I'm jumping on you. But we're bitching about Oliveson scoring.
Starting point is 00:18:59 We're bitching about Strom scoring. Are we overlooking the fact that if we do, get these guys. Maybe the two of them scoring costs us three draft positions. So we go from five to eight, just because we're good at math, right? That's true. But the fact that they start scoring and feel good,
Starting point is 00:19:19 does that make them more tradable? Are we bringing them back? I know. Are we bringing them back and pumping the tires? I've said I don't want to. But if you're talking about dropping three spots, because you've got some guys that are playing well, whatever. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:37 Like I'm trying to find the positives here. Like there is. Strom's a real big positive. Like, yeah. Because Anaheim has to do a bunch of extension work this summer. Uh, they've got a lot of really good young players that need deals.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And he was not a fit and was not getting ice time. A year ago, he was a half point per game center in the NHL. That's something that it was, you know, just a huge luxury for the, for the, like we can't even get to squeeze this guy in.
Starting point is 00:20:04 That's how deep we are down the middle. How nice it. must be to be loaded with young centers like Leo Carlson and Mason McTabich and such. But he's a guy that at five and a half, you've got to get to the floor anyway. If you like him, you still probably haven't got a center to arrive out of your system yet in the sense that I think the Castanias and the gross and other guys are going to be, you know, four, five, six organizationally at centers, either in the A or the NHL, but you're not a top three guy. You've got Backland for another year and Frost's to you next summer.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Strump could be an extension candidate or a guy that it's like, shit, we can turn him around for a third. We put him in a roll with some minutes and he's actually looking like the player he was a year ago. So it was a super savvy move by Conroy. At the time, it was frustrating because we didn't know the cadre deal was coming or not. And that was where all our attention was. But to get a player of his caliber, a half point per game center a year ago for a seventh rounder when you are so thin at center ice, it's a massive win. Because now you can do whatever you said. You can pump and dump or you can extend.
Starting point is 00:21:05 and of course you wouldn't complain about drafting in the top three. And if those three are the consensus top three, you'd take whoever it is and you'd be happy. But on the other hand, are the flames in a position now where, you know what? Like I'm reading in a comp, if we can draft at six and get a centerman,
Starting point is 00:21:23 which is what we need, so what? You might have taken a three. You know what I mean? Yeah. Maybe our hand is being played for us to a certain extent, but it might turn out to be the best. I'm not saying you'd run away from McKenna at one.
Starting point is 00:21:37 No. Not trying to hint at that. But maybe that I'm just trying to put a positive spin on it where it's like, yeah, we didn't get one. But I'll tell you what, we got a stud centerman and we don't have any. Yeah, you, like when I talk about the gap from three to six, like the guy you might want at three might still be there at six because your needs are different than other teams at the draft. And there's just that much variation on lists all of a sudden. Like I think it's Stenberg and McKenna seem to be consensus top two now. And then there's a big group of D.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And if you were going to take a center anyway, or maybe the D you like the most is the one that's left when you pick at five or six. Give them credit. They're doing the right thing and the culture has not wavered or waned a bit. That's the biggest concern when you go into these things where you're like, we're going to get rid of really good pros and our best, most talented players that have the most points. I told you all you're those guys were jerks and to get them out of here. That's what's finally cleared out dead weight in that room. Yeah, fine.
Starting point is 00:22:36 The Lord's work, Rhett. Yeah, finally. You were talking about how high or how low can they go, depending on which way you're looking at the standing. Yeah, yeah. There are two points back in the overall league standings. St. Louis has 67 points. The flames have 65.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And then Winnipeg's quite a bit. And then you got Winnipeg and San Jose with 70. So it's still a five-point gap between the flames. But there's... So you could realistic... They're within striking distance of 28th. Yeah. And then depending what happens.
Starting point is 00:23:04 But they have 12 games left. Road games. A lot of opponents. Six at home, six on the road, but the six in the road are all in one trip. And there's two trips to Colorado, one to Dallas in there. But again, it doesn't seem to matter who they play. Like you're going to get the solid effort. And if a team's overlooking you, which I think we've seen a lot of this year,
Starting point is 00:23:25 Carolina comes in, they're not worried about the flames. Tampa and Florida come in. They're not worried about the flames. And it's not taking any way of recovering. you put your best foot forward. But Euniceyr Hanson's just not a good NHL goalie, and that's who they got to play last night. Yeah, I mean, we can joke about, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:42 putting coolly in the rafters or whatever. They're getting good goaltending regardless of who's in the net. It's not like when you had Markstrom and this, well, you should, why are you still play? They're rotating the two. Yeah, they're pretty much alternated. They're giving the opportunity there for one of them to shit himself, but both guys are playing well.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I think Pristevich has been very good. White Cloud continue. Oly Matt has been. Yeah, he looks like left-handed white cloud, doesn't he? Only Matt is 24 minutes a night. Just the guys they picked up or have inserted into the lineup, Gridden, who's disappointed? I mean, it's weird that you look at at Perrek and he's kind of,
Starting point is 00:24:18 well, there's some ups and downs and he's just, you almost just, just get through games, get some minutes, and we'll figure out what the offseason looks like. But everybody else has been far, greater than you could have expected, I would think. I don't mean that as a shot to Perrek, but you talked about Gridden already. He's had some sensational plays. Bristevich saves a goal last night.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Braden Point standing in the corner after that puck doesn't go in. So what just happened there? Even coolly thought it was in. He had two looks where you're like, how is he not bearing those? It's another 20 minute night for Bristewitch, 2020. And the goalies are making saves and they play hard. And Prex doing it again where you see what his, elite traits are and you also see where he's deficient.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And that's as long as he continues to play and, uh, work on that, you know, development's not a race. Yeah. Is he having a monster rookie here? Absolutely not. Does that mean he's dead? No. Are you seeing the flashes of what made him great at lower levels? Absolutely. There's no points to show for it yet. It's weird. It's a weird. You know what I mean? And I'm not trying to be it.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Again, I've, I've said, they really need this guy to work out. And this guy to really be a star. But I still don't know what we're watching a lot of nights. It's like, okay, well, that's average plays. Oh, that's, well, there's a good pass. That's, oh, okay, that's. Stake there. That's a mistake.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I don't know how that one ends up. And that's why I think you just keep playing them. Let him figure it out. I hope for his case that shows that you have to work your ass off. And I'm not saying that he doesn't know that. I'm just saying when you get 100 and some points and you get tossed out there relentlessly in junior hockey when wonderful it's a different world yeah these guys don't give a shit you're going to have to earn it and i hope that that's what's coming across from is that
Starting point is 00:26:13 oh okay i'm going to have to up my game and there is sort of this resting state of aloofness where he's just kind of like it doesn't look like a guy that's going balls to the wall but i i'm not even questioning that but no but there is that like i watched last night and And it's like TV time out and he's just staring into the crowd looking at people. And I'm like, it doesn't mean he's not trying. It's just he's a different cat. Yeah. He's going to roll a different way than we're used to seeing.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And that's been the case right since his first development cap. And, you know, he's going to march to the beat of his own job. And in Vancouver, they said the same thing about Quinn Hughes. He was kind of a unique cat that just kind of stares off into space. And then the buck drops, he was one of the best in the world at it. So there is still that possibility. I'm all for that in a way because I go back to going into Pittsburgh as a rookie. Lemieux, Yager, Francis, Recky, like, the list was, they weren't stressing out about morning skate.
Starting point is 00:27:16 They're out there smoking darts and flipping bucks around, right? Like, there's something to be said about staying loose because when you play 84 games next year and you're playing every other day, beating the piss out of yourself mentally, it don't work either. So I'm not looking for him to beat himself up. I'm just looking for him to recognize, hey, this is pretty good hockey. What I did in junior, I'm going to have to grow.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And it's not a criticism. I'm not saying he's not doing it. I'm just saying that might be the best case scenario, it's him realizing I can do this, but I have to up the game. Totally. Like your biggest takeaway, has to be this is such a leap from junior like that has to be the i'm going to the off season and
Starting point is 00:28:06 i've got to have a monster off season i think about badard he got invited to go to the world championships last year he says no everyone's like what do you do on next year's olympics hockey can't always loves it when you show the loyalty and he went back and worked on his skating in vancouver and you've seen an incredible change in the speed that badard operates he was below league average last year on the league they won't show what percentile if you're below 50th, they'll just say bottom half. And now you're seeing this guy up in the high 70s into the 80s. Like he literally said,
Starting point is 00:28:36 I don't need to play a three-week tournament where we're boozing every other night. We play 10 games. I'm going to go home and get back in the lab. That's what you need from Zane this summer. It's crazy how our mentalities have changed. And we'll move on off of this because I don't know it's terribly enlightening or exciting. That where it used to be, well, D-Men take longer, right?
Starting point is 00:28:57 That was the whole thing about prospect. coming into the league and a lot of times, oh, by the time, he's 23, 24, starting to, now you're starting to see it. Our patience is so non-existent now because some kids come in and play at 19. Because a Schaefer, that's why.
Starting point is 00:29:13 And our game changers. Hudson, Schaefer. The guy in New York's, holy shit, okay, so he's not having the best rookie season ever in the history of the game. It can still allow you to be an extremely
Starting point is 00:29:28 important piece of the hockey team moving forward. He's 19. Yeah, yeah. It's his 19 year old season. It's like the hardest part is patience. And you've bitched about it. He shouldn't have been here. It's a stupid rule that's going to be fixed for next year.

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