Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - The Calgary Flames Season Finale | FN Barn Burner

Episode Date: April 13, 2023

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Here we go. April 13th, a Thursday. And there it is. You see that right there? That is the final game sheet for the Calgary Flames and the 22-23 season. Game? Well, hang on.

Don't just go. 82. Don't go bending it. You got to frame that and put it up behind you. What a night it was. Careful. Careful. That's going to be a collector's item.

Geez. Oh, fuck. Have you seen the pile of muck across the room today? I'm not sure what's happening. I've been... You've been frantically busy. I have two. Lots happening right before the show.

Doing a lot of this sort of thing. But our buddy's down a court. Just a court? He's down a liter and a half. He's down a hearth. How are we? I don't, I must... I've never...

I think I've had a migraine once in my life and I was crippled. Like, couldn't... Just life over. Yeah. And I'm feeling like I don't, because I'm not hungover. I slapped. Yeah. But my head is about to explode.

And if there was a pail around, it might be used. Do you need a poop? No. Ooh, geez. I find. When in doubt, push it out. Yep. I find that's my first go-to.

Well, before we get too deep into the analysis, yeah, let's go poop. Yeah. And then regroup and see our round. And we'll do it. That's right. Yeah. It's great advice, fellas.

So at first glance, he looks normal, but you watch his movements. He looks like shit. Like, everything is labored. There is very little, like, there's a lot of pain on his face, the more you look at it. It's up here. Yeah. Remember when my face used to melt on the old show? Yeah.

That looks like what's happening there. Do you have a sinus infection? I have no idea what I have. You know, what it is, maybe. It's that peak sadness that Ryan talks about. Yeah. Yeah. season's over.

Maybe you don't even know it. There's more coming on that. Devastated. Yeah. Subconsciously, I'm just can't get over the fact that there's nothing hockey to look forward. I've heard he's so distraught. He's leaving Calgary again.

Yeah, he's going to get out of here. He's fucking off this weekend. See ya. Gonzo. He's going to come back, but the team so demoralizing after last weeks pump up the positivity. Let him down. On the sabers, they couldn't hack it when he left.

He's got to go somewhere new then. Florida, they're in. He's going back to the kids. I need a vacation. Yeah, you know. Tropical. It's been working too hard. Yeah.

Yeah, it's been a grind. We went to the game last night, and I don't know why, but when we were walking in the rink, and it was early, but it just kind of, I think it hit both of us. It certainly hit me. It was just, it's, this is way too early. This is it? For the season to be over. It's still chilly.

There's snow on the... Usually it's, oh, now it's spring and when the season's over, it's like, okay. Rather your team keep playing, but it's warm out and that. It still feels like hockey weather. It feels, I don't know why it's, it just feels different than any other year to me. And maybe it's because we're expecting there to be so much change and it was such a disappointing season and all of that.

But to be at the game and I felt like the fans, I said this to Red on the way home, they were, they just, they showed up. Calgary showed up last night, sold out crowd. They cheered for Dustin Wolf. They cheered for Coronado. They wanted Coronado to score so badly. They were doing the wolf thing. They were singing, doing the wave, which we'll talk about.

They really, I felt bad for everybody last night. Well, at least they won the fucking game. I mean, that really would have been peak sadness. If you have to see players come out and throw hats to fans after a loss to the sharks in your meaningless last game of the year, ugh. At least they won. and I do, yeah, like to add to peak sadness. So if you're new to the program,

this is a phrase that I think someone, I think it's Blake Micah McCurdy is the guy's name, the stats guy on lie. He said, peak sadness is when you finished just out of the playoffs. Because you're not picking high. So your draft picks like, meh, middle of the first round. You're also not getting in the playoffs, which is all that fun, revenue if you're an owner,

experiences if you're a fan, city gets upside down. I'm going to add to peak sadness. If your team's eliminated before you've had a beer on a patio that spring, that's what's happening right now. If your team's done before you can have a patio beer, that's peak sadness. Yeah, if you had bought in and you were already on board with this being a losing year, but the high draft pick, you get through those 82 games, then all of a sudden you flip the script. All right, draft lottery.

When's the draft lottery? Where are we going to be picking? All right, then where's a draft? Who are we taking? What are the kids? What are the prospects? What are the numbers? What are you going to be? Hey, UFAs this summer.

Who's available? What are we doing? What are we doing for Capspace? You go from very depressed and down to hopeful. Turn the page. Here, I don't feel like there's any of that. There will be. I don't know.

I sold a little hope last night with 39 and 32 and 49 on the ice. Yeah. I don't think anyone's saying, where are we picking or what's the free agent crop look like for July 1? To be fair, they could stay out of that crop. Not a lot. It's not a good one. and they got burnt almost every time they go there. But anyway, they, yeah, they beat the sharks last night and threw t-shirts into the crowd.

Yeah, what happened to the jersey off my back? I'm not sure. Oh, budget cuts. There it is. I throw that, there it is. Oh, my boy. That's our, uh, the wind donkey. The victory donkey.

It is, yeah, it's kind of got rat like body and it's got a hunchback and it kind of, it's Certainly parts of it look like a horse. Others, I don't know. Now, that's not someone in a suit and they videoed it. That's CGI. That's some animated thing, right? That's artificial intelligence, right, Rhett? Isn't that what this?

A.I made that. So, yeah. It was a great time last night, all things considered. The hockey game was absolute dog shit. But, I mean, we had a great group of people. It was a ton of fun. Remember the shots after the first period? It felt like for old dust and wool.

Dusty had a couple dump-ins, not much more than that. He had some tricky ones in the first, one cheating, trying to throw it in the net. That's illegal? You can't do it. You can't do that. But a very kind of a routine night happy for him. Coronado is zipping around and shooting the pocket. That first shot, you're like, ooh.

And it was the other end from where we were sitting, but he fucking ripped that thing. So, yeah, it's not. Shoot it. Isn't that funny? Well, you need to add some excitement to the building. There's a couple of kids that are excited to be there. And I wish we could have spread this wisdom to the flames earlier in the year. Because you always talk about how much they're listening to us, Dean, and taking cues from us.

If only we'd thought about inserting some young players this season. It clearly would have done it, and it would have turned the season around. Yeah. Yeah. It could have done that. Energy. We'll talk about our experience at the game, why we're at the game, and obviously the season is over, and already it feels like there's news happening surrounding the flames.

But I, as I sat there and I watched some of the stuff yesterday and last night, and we, of course, did our show. And can, you know, the lion, whatever, the leopard change its spots. Can the old dog learn new tricks? Do you remember it was January? Because I went back this morning to find it. January 21st, it was Tampa Bay and the Flames at the dome. It was the first game for Jacob Peltje. He had been called up a couple days earlier, got into the game.

and he was much like last night excited. Fans were excited to see him. Yeah, family was there finally. Yeah. And then, of course, there was this clip, postgame from the coach when asked about Peltier's debut. Could they reckon? What did you think of Peltier's debut? What did you think of Jacob's first few shifts in the NHL?

Jacob Peltier. What number is he? 49. 49. Six minutes, 35 seconds, 13 shifts. average 30 seconds a shift. Got 43 seconds in the park, played five minutes, 52 seconds,

had one shot and goal and one hit. It's the NHL, 21 years old. Got long ways to go. So that was Jacob Pellche. And the Oscar. In January. Now, it's,

a lot has happened since then. Time has passed. Are we seeing a kinder, gentler, Daryl Sutter, because I put together, this was now, Dustin Wolf, Matthew Coronado, made their date.

debuts last night, similarly to Pell-J. Here's some of the pre-game and post-game from Daryl Sutter when asked about those two young men. This is pre-because he's not wearing the seat. That's right. You can talk about this opportunity for Dustin Wolf for the time? That's well-earned. He's for sure the MVP in my books, not only their team, but I think he's close to the league MVP. Two things that really, his work ethic and his hockey sense, like he really knows the game.

People expect to see it from Matt Coronado? You know, I think we're all looking for it, right? I don't think, you know, there's not many, is there anybody in here that see him play live? We're all excited to see what he's, see it live. I think he's got lots upside of that young man. Good shooter. Not everybody has that, right?

Lots of spunk in his game. It was a good first outing for that good. He busted his ass the whole time. Dustin Wolfe? I think he really settles your team down. good for him to be here and good for him to get that game. And then it gives him something to, you know, it gives him a read on it. And I think with Dustin, I think he's still got lots of hockey left this year.

And so I think it was really good for him. I'm going to suggest different than what we saw in January. Now, to be fair, the circumstances are very different. January, they're fighting for their lives. It's about playoff positioning, turning a team around. They're struggling. this game has zero impact on the standings and your ability to make the playoffs. They were eliminated.

And Darrell had no interest in playing these guys two games ago because they hadn't been eliminated yet. I think that's important context. But yeah, it's night and day. I like the second one better. Yeah, I think the players would too. You know, weird, hey? Although the first one was pretty good. Honestly, can we get him a cameo or two?

Like, he reaches for the glasses. Like, it's, it's beautiful. It's performance art. To sit at the morning availability and be, I think we're all very excited. He's smiling. Well, that's not exactly the Peltje tree. But I guess I get your point.

I think your point's valid too, though. I just think this is, and he has been softer. I think, I don't know, does Daryl Sutter get reprimanded? Probably not. I don't know, but he would hear because it was pretty wide. and unanimous that people thought the Pell-J thing was pretty disrespectful. And to be fair, Frank, you know, well-connected, said that that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way in the organization, around the NHL, player agents, and that the context to it

was he was probably told, don't keep stringing this kid along for week after week when he's trying to get his family out to play a game. Give him a fucking date so he can get a, out make his debut and his family can be there. And so Frank's explanation was that was Daryl throwing the bird out to everyone telling him how to do his job. Yeah, I mean, either way, it was what it was. It was not a good look. It wasn't good. It was a bad look. And if you worked above Daryl in the org chart, whoever that is, whether that's one or eight people, whatever it is, we don't know, how would you not address that? You'd have to. Yeah. I just wonder how receptive that guy is to any kind of criticism. Well, it looked bad in the media.

If I was the guy that had to go in, I would say, hey, it looked bad in the media. And then duck, because I feel like there's a friggin fist coming at you. And we also noted at the time that that was what he said in a public space. And it was a bit of a showdown with the media who'd been asking about it. It was a bit of a showdown with other people saying we give the kid a date, let him know what's up. But we also said behind closed doors, he probably was complimentary. There's one coach. in the national hockey league who would have handled that situation the way he did.

No other coach is going to come out and do the who? What number? You see, oh, it's 21. I thought it was odd for even him. No one's doing that. It felt like that was brought on by something bigger, right? Yes. My guess is he probably regretted it after, had to have, right?

How could you not? Either way, it was just you saw, and maybe it's because they're out of the playoffs, and maybe it's because he wasn't going to do that again, or maybe he's just got more of an affinity for these guys than Peltje, but it was, I just thought it was an interesting, what is it, a juxtaposition from then to now? Or clearly, it's a new guy. Yeah, changed guy, changed guy.

So now what? I said it the other day, and it's for all teams where your season ends, and if you're a fan, you watch the games, and you're disappointed, there's no playoffs, and especially for Flames fans, right now. The shots are coming from up north. It's, oh, yeah, yeah, not going to the playoffs, not going to the playoffs. Now it changes to that maybe some of that disappointment, maybe not today, maybe not yet, but maybe it can start to change. Okay, what's the team going to be? What's it, who's going to coach, who's going to be the GM, who's going to be the captain,

who's going to, what's it going to look like? Where are you picking in the draft, all of that? It's not I mean, it's not like it is in Chicago or Columbus, where you'd be looking that forward to things, but it does change. And I know that we've talked about it. I think for us, because we do a show every day, you try and kind of tap the brakes a little bit because you don't want to exhaust the topic before you even get to it. But the future of the GM and the coach is probably front burner. they are doing exit meetings tomorrow.

I think Tannave did his yesterday because he was hurt. And, you know, the NHL schedule will primarily wrap up tonight. There's only two games beyond tonight. You let the fellas have their night last night. And tomorrow is sit down. Exit meeting. Who conducts them? Who's in the room when they're being done?

What kind of note-taking is done? That's probably would be interesting to find out. But it starts tomorrow. It'd be an interesting underneath of the bowels there yesterday. Between morning skate, which are living came out onto the bench. To watch the morning skate and to talk to the kids. And he's like, is this his last morning skate? Is this why he's down there?

Is it because it's his last game? I don't know. Now, there is, there's already some discussion on social media about what might be happening. You saw our, Robert Munich, who works with Flambley. Unique. Keeping an eye on things and hearing from the Jeff Merrick show this morning with Elliot Friedman. There's the tweet.

Put a tweet out. Elliot Friedman mentioned on the Jeff Merrick show this morning that Don Maloney and Craig Conroy have signed contract extensions to stay with the flames. He also mentions that he thinks Daryl Sutter will be back as coach. This is not officially being reported. It's Elliot's opinion. The second part is what is Elliot's opinion. The first part is he has gotten.

word that those extensions have been signed. Is it an extension to be AGM? Is one of those guys the GM? That's not clear here. But we listened to the clip before the show and Elliot also, you know, really quickly noted $8 million over the next two years owed to Darrell likely to return.

You don't walk away from that. No. He's not walking away. The question was, would the owner have the stomach to push him out and have to pay him that? And that would be a drastic change from what history has taught us about the way this owner operates. And it didn't happen according to what Elliot's opinion is here. So if history has taught us anything, the flames are still operating like the flames have been operated regarding coaching.

Which leads us to what we discussed yesterday. Who's going in and saying, I can't play for that guy and what are you going to do about it if they do? Yeah. And so those seven UFAs, exit meetings are. one thing, as of July 1, you can negotiate an extension or at least begin the conversation about an extension. What is the tone of those? There would be one more year of Daryl beyond next season for the entirety of that contract is what we know. And again, these are not public contracts. Is it crazy to suggest then with this seeing Maloney and Conroy extending, tomorrow being

exit meetings, that we may be here today of a true living non-return. we could i also nothing in there suggests that one of those guys is going to be the gm either right but it also does not say that bradcher living has a contract extension correct what's your guts telling my gut tells me his braddle living is gone craig conroy takes over don maloney is he gone because he's not being offered a contract or is he gone because he's ready to be gone both that's a great question both sides might be ready i would buy that i think the gm probably is frustrated with some of the process here.

Like, I don't think the GM handed that coach and extension in the fall. And I think that's probably really frustrating because it changed the entire power dynamic around the organization. And what happened this year with the coach and the players, the GM might have seen coming. He knows that Darrell wears on guys and he understands that coaches have a shelf life. And this is now about two and a half years of Darrell. That's pretty much, like average shelf life of a coach,

never mind a grinding coach like Daryl. And I think it really took the carpet out from under Brad in terms of how the organization runs power wise. And my gut, if you can trust your gut ever, is that it's up to tree whether he wants to come back. It will be on the owner's financial terms, whether he likes those or not or, yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying the job,

my gut's telling me the job's available for Tree to keep, if he so chooses. I kind of talking about what he wants, financially or not. Yeah, no, I agree with you. And it's weird because I didn't feel that way a lot, but just the way that news is trickled out. And it's funny because Frank had said there's an almost zero chance

both these guys don't return. And yet I feel like it's a lot more than almost zero today. He also said that he saw that there, and I'm paraphrasing now, I don't want to back Frank into a corner, but he had kind of said something to the tune of. He saw a zero percent or a, there was no path for Daryl to return as the coach of this team.

So can things change? in a short amount of time, sure they can. We went through it yesterday because we took a positive spin on things. Gosh, are we positive? It's infectious. It's a lot of stuff for them. So there's not a lot of work left for whoever is the GM of code. Anyway.

I saw you were going to be the new GM on such a way. Just bookmark that you. Are you holding out on us, you son of a bitch? What do you know, Rep? Do you want to break some news? You know what this is? This isn't a fucking migraine. This is the stress of, you know, having the reins of this organization.

No, it's the new look. It's the new media. I have to be, I can't joke around anymore. And also, he's got to figure out how to break the news to us. It'll be heartbreaking. Yeah, I know. It's like when Berkey told sports that he was leaving. It was kind of like when he told his kids he was getting rid of the dog they love.

I mean, he has to find another way to softly break our hearts. Okay, go ahead. I can't remember what I was going to say. You guys have distract. You're living, staying, leaving. We talked about it yesterday. We were being positive. Yeah, I know.

And it's still not in my brain. Okay. Okay. Well, and look, I think the great debate that we've had all year and both of us have sort of altered positions on it at times is, are they skilled enough or B, is there so much dysfunction, you have to make major change? And I guess that in that vein of thought is where I was going with it was when we spun a positive thing on this year, tried to put a little positive to it, you could see from an ownership's point of view that they were this close to being where they were supposed to be, which is in a playoff's point. on. Right? You could look, you can squint and see, you know,

if Hubert was 15 more points, if Markstrom's 10 more saves. Daryl talked about their home record. He's on the road. We had a worse home record than a road record. If that's not then you're in. There were some big awful. There's all kinds of reasons where you could go, but then there's all kinds of reasons. Well, that's

you're sugar-coating it. You didn't make it. You can wish and hope, and if I had picked different numbers on the lottery, I'd be a billionaire. You want to hear something really fucked that'll mess your brain? I believe Tampa plays tonight

because 30 of the 32 teams play tonight. What do you think the gap is between the lightning and the flames and points? I'm setting you out because... 15. I don't know. Three. Isn't that fucked? And Florida's in.

I don't know that they're going to rest guys or play guys or try to win or not tonight. Like they're in. I don't know wild card one or two if they care, whatever. They have more points on the Florida Panthers this morning, the Calgary Flames. Now, you could argue tougher division. Certainly I'm going to buy that. Eastl, deeper. I'll buy that too.

But for all the things that went fucking awful this year, look at how close they are to the Islanders and the Panthers who were in and the Tampa Bay Lightning who are three points up on the Calgary Flames. Is that not insane? That kind of is. I saw it today and my head almost exploded. So let's just in its opinion. We're here in the Tower Chrysler Studios.

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If you see that Nation Jeep or the Nation truck around, take a little photo, throw it on social. Say how to us. All right, do that for sure. Actually, I got a thumbs up to this morning on the way in. I did this while. The people are noticing these things. Yeah.

Or it was a finger anyway. I don't know. It was a digit. Somebody held, yeah, there's a finger of some sort. So let me ask you this. Based on, obviously, Brad's been here for a lot longer than Daryl has, but Daryl's connection to the city and the team. it goes beyond the year and a half or whatever it's been.

Clearly. Does Brad Trilliving deserve an extension based on his body of work? Holy, this is a tough one for me because like all GMs, he's made mistakes. But I don't know how many GMs have had the kind of summer that he had last year. And I don't think it was managed perfectly going in, but that was a learning experience. And we don't put enough credence. Sure. Into what COVID did to players and teams.

In this country, yeah. In this country. Okay. It's over. That's fine. So he drafts. And I think, you know, I've been pretty vocal about this organization not having a plan. And I've stepped back, not on air.

but in my own brain sitting around the house where I'm like, wait a minute, if Sam Bennett had been what you expected him to be, if Sean Monaghan had stayed healthy, had stayed healthy, if Goddrow had stayed here, if Cichuk had stayed here, that is what you're supposed.

That's putting together. That is a long-term plan. Aspenes Anderson. Asper Sanerson is there. You went out and signed a good goaltender. So there's a lot of good shit that he's done. But there's a lot of good shit that he's done. But there's a lot of baggage, too.

And last year being what it is, I don't give him full grades because I think he, I think he did a great job in recouping assets and people in a shitty situation. But then I think he followed up with a panic move. The extensions. And this is important because I know a lot of people have seen this show and they're like, Rhett thought Trillivan did a great job in the return for Kachuk.

A first, Weiger, Yerbredo, a prospect. Schwint. But the issue you have wasn't the deal. It was extending both those guys immediately. Even an end and end of people like, well, if you're going to be the same situation as you were with Godreau. But my point is always perhaps, and sometimes you would lose Grohl, but like, Godro, but like I said yesterday, I don't think you lose Godro. if COVID never happened.

I think it shows a flame for life. Anyway, you pick up Hubertow, and that's the guy we're talking about. I wasn't happy with Uyghur at the start. By the end of the year, I think he was one of their best defensemen, if not their best defenseman. You got your pick.

Don't sign Huberto to a long-term deal, because if it doesn't work out, you'd have sold him at the trade deadline for big return again this year. And you wouldn't be locked in. If he is playing well, and he's at 70 points that you don't mind paying the guy. Open up the coffers.

Give him the exact same deal plus. If it's working, that's where I think he failed. And I don't like the cadre deal no matter what. I understand it. Yeah. But I just think that's too much change. And that goes against,

the cadre deal goes against what you, you know, what I just gave him credit for with the Bennett, Monaghan, and Joe Kachuk build style of thing. The cadre thing is a, ah, I got to fill a hole and I'm going to pay the most just to get the guy

that's top ranked out there. I know it'll be bad on the back end, but I'll do it anyway. But we're doing it anyway. It's the shitty GM move, right? Which never turns out well and has always passed on to someone else. And that is the challenge of doing this job

in this market with this owner, is that the pressure to make the playoffs every year is so significant that I think you put yourself in a spot where you're more willing to do the cadre deal than you should be. And it's not that it's just the cadre deal. It's James Neal. It's Troy Brower. It's this guy.

They're all the same thing. You made a bet that the character was great. Questions arose whether that was the case. And you bought a lot of the back nine outbidding 31 other GMs or 30 at the time, whatever it is. That has been, if you have to grade him on different parts of the job, free agency has been the toughest on them. I think draft and development hasn't been this good since late 80s when it was phenomenal.

I don't think it's phenomenal. But you're seeing a first place HL team that's not super veteran laden. There's a lot of young kids on that team. You're seeing hits in rounds four, five, six, seven. That never used to happen with any regularity. And I think you have someone that understands more than just picking a name and expect him to be there in two years helping a team. They get player development.

They're open to analytics, sports science. I think it's a much more progressive organization that he leaves behind if he's gone than what he inherited. But to your point, it's a very mixed bag. It's true living is much like the flames this year. If you want to not even squint, you can look at it and go, he's done really good things. Or you can look at it and go, well, with all the time he's had, we've had some misses and we didn't make the playoffs again. what's the, are you this close or have you effed it up? Right?

Like it's, here's a hypothetical. Was there an offer on the table for Kachuk that involved a lot of very good young players that might not have been super impactful this year, but allows the team to win and be more long-term winning that the owner maybe would push away from towards the win now thing that is so front of mind? But so that's where we get into the big lots of, It's the challenge, right?

Lots of weeds are there. Because here's what I say to almost all of that. If you're a team and a GM operating today, and it's probably even more so here, because we're in Alberta, you only got to go three hours north, and you go, how in the, do we get past that? What's, who's beating that?

What are we got to do? And that's where the cadre thing comes out. Okay, well, we're good. Three deep center men. We can play. Yeah, we don't have individual skill that can be, but our goal tendering will better. Right?

So sometimes you start planning to try and compete. We lost to the fucking Oilers last year in the playoffs. They were expecting to at least meet up, have a chance to meet up with them again this year. Your game plan is to, okay, not only do we have to make the playoffs, they all expected they would. But once we make the playoffs,

what's the sense of getting shit pumped by the blue and orange? They built a roster to play the Oilers. And to be fair, in three games against the Oilers, they outplayed them in the vast majority of those 180 minutes. They lost two, but really had the puck more than the Oilers. In both of those, there was late rallies from the Oilers. They won the first game. That was how they were built.

The problem is, outside of those three games, there was a lot of fucking shitty play from some good players. Yeah. And I, and I, I said, well, there will be changes so my, what I said about not going back next year. If this is the same pile of muck, it won't, man. They won't win me over until January. They are, bring some kids in and you immediately change things and add some excitement to games where they were flat and too veteran-laden and too stubborn to play the young guys, where those would have been the guys that have the energy to get you through the. the doubt

the dead spots on the on the schedule is there anything would you either of you buy the notion that treloving made this mess being this season and that he's the best equipped to fix this mess or not well here's the other thing who's doing it if he doesn't I don't I we talked about it yesterday and we're saying it again

I my gut tells me whether a true living will come back not will be true living's decision, but you can look at this whole organization and go, well, what the hell else are you going to do? You may as well start again next year in the same spot with a couple of changes to the kids, like we've already made the deals for them, and find out where you're at. Because if you're bringing in a new GM, and again, I think it'll be up to you're living. But if a new GM's coming in, who is it?

What's his philosophy? And what the hell is he going to change? If Sutter's back and you've got a bunch of contracts you can't move, was you going to trade a bunch of guys that aren't the guys you want to get rid of? Right? Guys you don't want to get rid of. Yeah, you're going to revamp the lineup. Boy, you can trade Taylor to Foley, which opens up a Tyler to Foley-sized hole in your lineup.

Right? Like, that's kind of what they're looking at this summer. Boy, no, if it could get you something. Yeah, but where do we do with Hannifton's minutes? We're going young, so we're going to move out cadre, except we're going to have to give away some prospects and picks in the trade to get that done. Not really counterintuitive to your youth movement. And to be fair, I still, if Daryl is back and it's someone that Daryl can move some puppet strings a little,

maybe that's too strong word, that he can massage on player personnel, why wouldn't he have another Lewis type on this team next year? The notion of youth and speed and pace and enthusiasm is great, but it's the coach that was against that. No one else in the organization. Make the coach feel like he's making the decision then. I don't know. You're right, but he's...

You know what, though? You said it yesterday. No one was calling Daryl Sutter out of step or out of touch last year. No. They want a playoff round. They should have beaten the Oilers. A lot of people feel... No one had a problem with Daryl Sutter last year.

They had the best line in hockey. And this year, it's a very different team. The room is different. The key players are different in a lot of ways. The goaltender struggles mightily. Both of their goaltenders were sub-900. How many teams can do it regardless of what else you have? It's going to kill you.

So what does that say to you? Think outside the box on what you're saying. With the goaltending or everything is? Just. Sorry. I know. I know. I'm building up drama.

Lead me. Yeah. So the coach could be the problem, but last year wasn't the problem. So you can, okay, I can see where he might be a problem, but is he the problem? GM is the GM who put together a team where a lot of people expect this. Damn, good team can compete with the Oilers. It might be less than this regular season, but be damned you don't want to play them in the playoffs, right? Like, so all those pieces, my point is all those pieces seem to be good.

So what dismantled this team or what changed inside the state? And my, my proposal to you guys would be off ice. Something's going on behind the scenes that has caused riffs or whatever you want to call it. It's dysfunction you talked about for a month. the dysfunction, and I'm not talking that it has to be in management. There's a lot of people that surround these players and are parts of their lives that can be part of the success or failure of hockey teams. You're politely tap dancing around things, but yes, I agree. No one deserves a free pass, but if anyone is suggesting that a new GM comes in and these issues,

are solved, that would be crazy. Like all of a sudden, Huberto and the coach, or singing in chorus, uh, holding hands, kumbaya, that Nazim Kodry all of a sudden loves playing for Darrow. Like, if, if, if this is supposed to be a sacrifice for missing the playoffs, if he doesn't come back or whatever, and I don't know that's it at all, but all the issues are still here whether Trilovius here or not. Nothing is fixed.

And he would have a better understanding of them than someone new. And conversely, if the coach was gone, I would have an easier time believing some of the issues that were present this year have a chance to be solved. So what is that list of things that went sideways on them this year? Obviously, goaltending, scoring. They lose 200-point guys,

but Huberto was a 100-point guy. 115. Who performed nowhere near. So, I mean, your offense goes, in the toilet there. Manjapani's production went down. Lindholm's production. Lundholm went down a ton. Whose didn't go down, guys? Like, to Foley's, that's it.

The best way I heard of purpose... So you try and find that, here's why. So why did it go sideways? Here's our list of reasons that we think are why. How many of those can you, like you say, strike to one-offs? Markstrom had a kid. Can you buy that? Are you not buying that? Did Lindholm have a kid too?

Lindholm had a kid as well. Hubertoe, new market, new country, tons of pressure, instant friction with the coach. Can you find, is that better in year two? I don't know because you come back in a year and you think, oh, it was just, these were the hiccups that happened. And then you're 20 games in, you're like, Jesus, It's nothing has changed.

I know, but, okay, so this is where I got, I get frustrated with, because remember yesterday we were talking about, well,

how can we sign these guys to these awesome contracts? Everybody wants Huberto. And you sign them, like, I can't fucking trade them. Right? That ain't changing.

No, you're stuck with that. If you go 20 games into next year or you try, right? Like, I don't know that moving Huberto this summer

is possible. God, no. And I don't know that moving 20 games in is possible. No, you're stuck with that for a year. And you know what? You may not want to

because he has shown the ability to be a 100-point star player in the league. You have a potential star in your locker room. How do you unlock it now? You'd be kicking yourself in the ass. You move him with... Yeah.

Chew on some of the money and he goes and does what Skinner did. Get shit kicked in a deal and then he gets 100 points again. So we're talking with two things. things. On the ice, you've asked about issues, and we're talking about off the ace, a lot of things that can be issues. The off the ice stuff is a lot of speculation. The on the ice, the best way I heard it summarized was earlier this week, Ryan Pike was on with Rob Kerr on just a game,

right here in these studios. And the question was, why isn't this team in the playoffs? What happened? And Pike said, the last 10 feet and the first 10 feet for the Calgary Flames killed them. Their goaltending was fucking awful. And when they got a chance around the net, what did they do? Didn't score as much as they should have. And if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, took away, you know, it's 200 feet. The middle 180, they're absolutely one of the best 16 teams in this league. It's hard for you to generate chances against the flames with any regularity. They have a lot of puck control.

They're pretty good at generating chances. Finishing them, dog shit, goaltending, dog shit. It's the 10 feet at each end of the rank that killed this team on the ice. Off, there's all kinds of things. New markets, new pressures, wives, kids, friction with a coach, players not getting along. We don't know any of those. that's all speculation. Like if those 10 feet are better next year,

this team probably hounds home ice. And I come back to Sutter again, just how quickly things change. And even from a half a year ago, remember this place was selling summer of Brad T-shirts. People were getting, Bradshaw living,

off the mat, gets this trade done, unbelievable. And signs these guys, yeah, it's top of market, but you've got Uyghurs great and Huberto, all of that sort of thing.

And a year ago, like you talk about, I should send him a fruit basket. Eric Goodbranson owes Daryl Sutter a ton. Because he was essentially a PTO or an 11th hour league men ad. I was like, oh, here's Daryl Sutter bringing in his guys. And he was very good for them. Craig Button said he's one of the guys that the flames missed a lot this year, that physicality in the dressing room, all of that.

I guess my point is a year ago, It wasn't that Daryl could do no wrong, but there was a lot more of the in Sutter we trust than there is right now. Career years for how many guys last year? Half the roster. Guys making money and the team want to playoff round. What happened?

Well, and how does a coach that won the Jack Adams thinks six week of Milan Luchich on the second line is a good idea? Like we talk about he didn't get dumb. That was fucking dumb. Why did you overreacting game seven with your lineup? That was dumb. I don't just. To debate.

To debate you and offer the other side, I will say he didn't do it subconsciously or uncooked. He did it because he felt he needed to send a message to the rest of them. Because he did not believe they were giving all that they could. This guy will work hard. I know he's not a second liner. I'll keep him here for six weeks. But if you look at some of those decisions, it's no way it didn't cost them at least the three or four points they're going to miss the playoffs.

But that's maybe why. flames fans, the old 24-hour rule, don't call the coach because you're going to get in a fight if you do it right away. Deep breaths. Maybe we're not that far. I don't love the makeup of the team,

and I think that those things that we can't comment on are deeper than we imagine. You hear whispers, but you're never going to get authority. And it's none of our effing business. Like that's, anyway. I think that is a part of the problem. But if you could squeeze a couple things, and if you can get Daryl to recognize,

yeah, those kids might not, might F up, but they also might. They also might turn into 100-point players, and they also might push Andromat-Pani to play better, and they might push Dube. And they might push Markstrom, sure. push Markstrom and they might push Goddrey and we saw Walker doer fuck Walker doer made the Lewis line look good for a while yeah right like let them do it just give him a chance yeah and then you watch his treatment of Matthew Phillips and pelt you down the stretch and you're like ugh we're not talking about the past Ryan yeah I have another talking about the future I have another question and I feel like there's no answers But it's got to be, it's too glaringly, I feel like it's the elephant in the room that we've really not talked about.

I'll get to it here at a moment. I'll want to talk about our playoff draft coming up tomorrow because tonight, today is the penultimate day of the NHL season. That's right. I think it was supposed to be the ultimate or whatever the, I'm not sure. But then there was two games tomorrow. Looks like it's going to solve maybe positioning, if at all. But we are ready for our inaugural Barnburner playoff draft.

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Top half of the draft order has been settled too. Is that right? Oh, yeah. We don't even have the fucking matchups yet, but we already know who's drafted one, two, three, four. Yeah, seven of eight series are yet to be determined. It's cool. And again, Friday was not supposed to happen.

The storm in Buffalo, that costs one game because Buffalo plays tomorrow. Am I right? And then the other one was there was flooding at the rink in, Nashville and they had to move a game. So Colorado Nashville tomorrow, right? Is that what it is? I think so. Yeah. Because it was both the Jets and Nashville finished with Minnesota, Colorado. So there you go. Don't take UC Soros. I mean, if you want. If we start the draft before that game is finished,

just steer away from Jankowski, as much as you might want to take them. I mean, take him, I guess, if you want. I'm not going to stop. Pinder's going to make fun of you. It's the inaugural barn burner playoff draft presented by paybilt.com in support of kids' sport at the Grey Eagle Resort and Casino. Looking forward to it. Now, the question I have for you, and I don't know, I don't think either one of you can give me an answer.

I guess I'm just asking, does there have to be something there? I played the earlier comments from Daryl about Pellche and how that kind of went. And I played one for you this morning. I guess my question is, how did we not see for any amount of time, especially after Huberto was moved to the left side with Elias Lindholm. Darrell made some comment about Lindy being the best player on the team and he's going to play with guys he likes. And then the Huberto thing was I'm done looking for chemistry with,

is there chemistry with Cadres? I don't care. I don't want to hear about chemistry. These are star players. You guys figure it out. I'll just, come on, just do your job kind of thing. What is the deal? Because to me, there has to be something.

With Lindholm, your number one center, and what should have been your number one winner in Hubert. And remember I always talked about when guys score? You should all be. You didn't see the camaraderie that you expect. When they went 10-4-4. indicators. Down the stretch, you saw a bit of that back,

but it was when you already needed the Hail Mary that you started to see. These guys, you know what they need? I've got it. Son of, this shit's too easy. Is this a commie special? Can you put that back out for rent for GM and owner? I might as well be the owner too.

I've got the money. Murray, let's partner up here. I got 20 in my pocket. Get Murray Edwards on the phone. Yeah, it's a Swiss number. Send him a Gary. Gary's got to give me the stamp of approval. Time is it in Zurich.

Is it in a boat? tomorrow, after the meetings, surprise for everyone. Here's your ticket. I got a cruise ship rented. Bring your families, all the players. We're going to get on the boat. And we're not getting off until everyone gets pissed with each other. Yeah.

And sings kumbaya or whatever. Everyone's going to have their own song. It's karaoke night one night. Yep. Wives are going to do a fashion show, whatever, have fun. Shuffleboard one night. Maybe some... Do a movie night?

No, because... No, you got to talk, you're right. It's too late. You don't talk. What's the volleyball? The water of a volleyball. We've got to have a tournament. Sure, yeah.

It seriously feels like this group is missing a Warner or a Commodore. The guys that say, we fucking suck tonight. And guess what? Mandatory trip to the ballet in Montreal. We're all hanging out together. It does not feel like a tight group that spends a lot of time together and loves each other because they don't look like

they fight that hard for each other. I just want to bring it back to the Lindholm here. And I'm not trying to make something. I'm not trying to force a square peg into a round hole. Because we talked when he came in and we had, well, Hubertoe

didn't always play with Barkov. He played on a different line, that sort of thing. And maybe you're trying to spread out scoring in your offense when your goal starved. But with the offensive challenges that this team had basically

all year, one goal games, the yinger, all of this. How did he not, how did they not go back to trying Lindholm with Huberdow for any amount of time? I don't know how long it was and we could probably find out. Five seven games maybe. At the start of the year, Daryl said something about Lindy's our best player.

He has, he gets to play with guys he likes. Likes playing with. Sure. And then it was dust in the wind. And here's the thing. It wasn't like, okay, well, they found a left winger that's killing it with Lindy. We have to leave that alone. The right winger was to Foley that you had to leave up there,

but they rotated Manjapani through. They put Dylan Dubay up there. For a while, it was Pelt-Chate. Like, everyone got a sniff up there, upsupped Hubertoe down the stretch. Not even down the stretch. The last fucking 70 games. The bulk of the season.

Yes. And again, I don't know that other coaches wouldn't have done that. And that's why I'm frustrated with this, you know, the thoughts of Daryl coming back, because there were just so many little missteps. And maybe he doesn't want to empower the, you know, you can't have the inmates running the asylum. But holy fuck, give your player

a best chance to succeed. Now, the counterpoint would be, Huberto played in a lot of spots, different sides. Did he ever look good anywhere? Maybe he was going to look like he looked anywhere. And Daryl's closer to it than the three of us. He is,

but again, there was some pretty clear. And honestly, I look at this as not a Daryl thing. I think it's too on the nose from a coaching standpoint. It's something you would do when you're looking for offense.

what's up with those two guys? So could it be nothing or is it too much to be nothing? It seems somewhere in this, it's too much to be nothing. Okay. And so one doesn't like the coach. One's a free agent a year. The other guy's locked in for eight years. Hey, new GM, come on tie this knot.

I wonder about Lindholm. Lindholm needs to be better. We talked about, I remember one of the first afterburners we did. and we were talking about Lindholm and you brought up the point about this guy does not look like he's having any amount of fun. Now off the ice, he's got having a kid and there's family and all this sort of thing. But you would also said there is some professional pride that he would swallow whether it's, whether it's deserved or not. You centered the number one line in hockey last year. The best line in hockey.

Both of those guys left. They left you behind and your numbers have plummeted. It was all them. It wasn't you. All that sort of stuff. True or not. That probably starts to roll through your head. And I know I've been in a spot where I've been in a workplace,

where I've had coworkers, whatever, and guys leave. And I's like, man, this just, it's not as fun as it used to be. It's not as good as it used to be. I'm not enjoying myself. Those guys are doing great without me.

Like, shit. I wonder what kind of year this has been for Lindel. Rob Ray, Stu Barnes, Chris Gratton. a couple other guys. One year in Buffalo, all got dumped. I think it was my last year in Buffalo. The last month, the hockey, sucked. You're going to the rink and your...

Your buddies are gone. Your buddies are gone. The guys that you... You're friends with everyone. And I consider myself a good teammate. So I got... But they were your sounding board. Yeah.

They were your... It's inner circle, right? Yeah, right? Like, it wasn't a click, but they were your boys. They were your guys. You phone and you said, hey, what about this? You know, what about the, what do you think of the guy?

He lost it. He lost his, his go-to guys. And that ain't easy. And then having a kid on top of him. Again, all this is, it's not an excuse. These are things you got to go through. Yeah. There's a lot of speculation.

So it's, it sucks. The one thing I would say is that I didn't think he played as hard as he can. And this isn't just about. him but at the end when we had seven games. We just needed a hard push. I thought he was great against Winnipeg, but it was Chicago you needed to win. You know, we talk about the captain.

I'm getting to the captain thing again. Nobody took it. Nobody took it. Yeah. Nobody took it. Even if you don't make it, if you play your ass off, you've established that you're the guy that's going to grab the reins and lead this team and next year you've got a captain who the is the leader next year

the same issue is still there and that's where and that's where when you start to dig into these issues it's i think it's good to say we're this close we're three points back where tampas they've lost four in real we're on the cusp like yeah any little luck here or there gets us in yeah power play saves timely goal overtimes any of that shit gets you in but then you dig into it and you go, is, is that the Kipersoft scenario where you might get in, but you're

dysfunction. You're sugarcoating the shit that's going on. And this is what we talk about. You mentioned this, dysfunction, dysfunction, dysfunction. It's impossible to scout a dysfunctional team and guess how it's going to look without the dysfunction. Because coming to the rank and being happy, how many more goals would that leave to?

It's not zero, though. We don't know what it is, but we know it ain't zero. And coming in and having your boys that you love being with. How much does that help morale and allow you to get over shitty things happening, whether that's a coach ripping your ass or a loss on the road? Is it one? Like, it's not nothing. We don't know what it is, but it's not nothing. And that's the challenge. And I do, going back to your Lindholm, Heurdo point, Daryl, you referenced the clip mid-season. Oh, Cadrean and Euro are superstars. They've got to figure out. I'm done with this, like chemistry stuff.

Why don't Lindholm and Hebrot have to figure it out? Yeah. If Daryl's going to tell those two guys to play hardball, why want to tell Lynn Holman, Hubertus? I think he trusts Lynn Holman what he did. I don't think he trusts Huberdo and Cogge. I'd agree with that. I think, and that's where I get back to. I think there's shit going on behind the scenes that we have no clue about. I know.

And I don't think it's all of Daryl's. And we bitch about Daryl's coaching, but Daryl's coaching what he's closer to and seeing more of. Totally. Right? For right or wrong. I still don't think that that means you talk about Peltier that way or have a meet. We love crass media,

torterella quotes and Daryl Sutter. We dig that stuff. That's great for us. Great entertainment. But not that. That was cringe-worthy stuff. Now, I think he'll obviously learn from it. He's no idiot.

He stopped it. He saw it already. So I don't even know where I'm going with my comments, but I think there's lots of issues behind the scenes that none of us, well, probably none of us deserve to know. If it's on the personal side and it's the stuff that you don't get to have an opinion on. And like you say, that no one really knows, and yet it seems to have torpedoed this season, that shows you potentially how deep it runs.

And, yep, when some guys are cemented here for the rest of time and other guys are potentially a year away from being out of here, and if those two guys aren't seeing to eye or even their wives aren't seeing eye to eye, like it's not a fun place to show up to anymore. It's a long time to go for those guys with those long-term deals. But do they, it's funny in a way because, and I'm sorry, I'm just going to use the two guys,

the big name guys, is Hubert O and Codry, who seem to have the biggest drop-off or you would have hoped to see more from. They don't feel like Calgary, Alberta people forever. Not yet. You know what I mean?

They don't now. I'll tell you that. Right, like, you're right. I don't, I just, I have a hard time envisioning Jonathan Huberto and Nazim Kadri as part of the alumni group. And you know what? And just said, ignorant comment probably, but I. Because I was going to say on the flip side, if you're Hubertow and you come here and seven or eight games in, the coach is saying you had to take a shit and you're fighting with the coach and nothing. I would think for Jonathan Huberdow, he had the best of intentions.

I don't think he's, I don't think this is a guy is like, I got my money. I'm gonna fuck the dog now. I'm done. No. I think that he probably wanted to come here and be a leader. He's Canadian market. He's a Canadian guy.

I think that there was, he had to have been crushed. For sure. He probably wouldn't, I'm not going out in public. I'm gonna get destroyed by people. And what happened in the three weeks when Darrell went from saying, this is the best passer maybe in franchise history to,

oh, he's having a shit. Now, what happened in there? But that, Because I've been meaning to talk about that. Is that not Darrell's sarcasm looking back? That was the start of the season. Oh, this guy's maybe the best pastoral we've ever had.

I don't think he was being sarcastic. But either way, it's just, it's possible. It feels like, again, Darrell knows more than we do. It feels like a misstep to say both those things, if not just one of those things. But what happened behind the scenes between those two things? Or was it always there? Was there always friction from day one? Is this the Alberta rancher not liking his taxes going to Quebec?

Is this stupid Westerners? You're so uncultured. Like, how deep is this? What is this? Okay, I want to change the subject because this feels like we can talk about this for a long time. We got a lot to get into, yeah. Let's talk about Wolf. Jumping around in the...

Love the energy. Did you see his hip-hop? Holy! Holy! Fucking! Fucking! And launched. Jumps around.

The big leap into the air. Loved how he played. Loved it. Excited for him. Love the energy, the work. You can see. Did you see the shot in the third? Yeah.

That defenseman came down. They already know go up top. They're trying. Right? And the question to me will be, are NHL guys capable of making that shot with the extra inch? your room above the shoulder. Or does he have to come another two inches out and that opens other plays?

Like he's been dealing with his whole life. I'm not saying he can't do it. I'm just saying that these are, when I played, there were two guys in the league that could make that short side top shelf little hole shot. Now there's a handful of guys on every team. Johnny won a series last year.

Right? Like, and he scored, and Ottinger ain't no. No, he's fucking crazy. So you can do it against big goalies. it's going to be interesting to see because that will be his size and again

his size will be his weakness it is his weakness can other teams take advantage of it yeah and it's not like the size thing's new and his numbers have always been better than bigger goalies there's only one level he hasn't done it at and one meaningless game against san Jose doesn't prove anything but i like the swagger

I like the confidence i like the energy you love the result at the second best league in the world it's i think it's great that he got in that the crowd that it was a that it was a good crowd last night how great not you feel bad because he got a guy like marckstrom and vladar sitting in uh i think they're happy to not be out of last night is fine but the chance for wolfie are only going to get louder and and that's okay what i'm trying to get out is how great would it be if he did he does that he does that he does it be if he doesn't he does have success because there is an immediate, just by his last name and his energy, connection with the crowd.

Yep. You know what I mean? Oh, fuck yeah. There's going to be a bond built. If there's one thing that can turn a team's fortunes around more than anything else, it's netmining. They were ready to see that kid last. Yes.

Oh, yeah. And to be fair, the day before Marks, he had a kid, he was on the road in a back-to-back playing in Colorado. Fans were ready for him back then in fucking February, whenever that was. I think back to him playing junior in Saskatoon, we had Norman. Marico. And he was a stud back then. And they played the cheers song every game.

Norm. Yeah. Like, you're going to have that kind of bond. And if he could be successful, it will be wicked. He's got some swagger too, boys. He's not coming in meek.

Ooh, I'm nervous. He likes the stage. And if you're going to perform like he does, fucking great. Yes, 100%. A little bit of it. I am not, I am 100% cheering for it.

Everyone is, because how could you not? He's the kid that's been told it ain't going to work for you. You're too fucking small. His whole life, he's got the chip on the shoulder, and he's the best at what he does. His whole life, he's been the best goal in the league he's played in. I got a couple things here. Alex showed the picture earlier.

I'll get him to bring it up. It was the Coronado and Peltje in the warm-up. And one of the people we were talking to was remember when Nolan was here and Bertuzi and Taget. It was all the old guys and they were all making money and the team was getting slow. And then all of a sudden, in comes Goddrault and Monaghan and Bennett.

And you just felt like, oh man, this is so good. When you look at those two guys, don't you feel like, boys, do it. This whole thing can be yours. You, Madjipani adds that this can be all yours

in a real short amount of time. And I don't know who did it. But there's, there's Coronado. And someone at Flames Nation, it might have been you, Jack, or it might have, can we find the next, the next picture of the gloves? Somebody said if you could see on the cuff, it says it's an old Monaghan glove with Monaghan, the seams ripped out of it. How long are we hanging on to gloves?

Are we recycling gear over at the dome? What's happening? We've got to make budget. We've got this fucking expanded roster. Who finds that shit? Someone's zooming in on everything. You know what? My wife's scroll on the ground, zooming in on everyone.

It's funny. I played with someone last night at the event said, hey, I bought a stick that the Flames claimed was yours from the 04 run, but it had a Lidstrom sticker on it. And I'm like, yeah, I used Lidstrom stick. That's, I love this pattern. So I mean, if you need your name on your gloves, then you're a big time. No, I was just wondering, maybe, you know,

you could buy the kids some new gloves. And you know what? Also going back to last night, I was saying the crowd was into it, chanting for Wolf. You could feel the energy in the building, that first rush the Coronado had. And he was coming up the ice. You could feel it singing country roads, take me home in the third. And they got the wave going last night, which I wondered if you were going to give it the thumbs up or not. It's a fucking meaningless game. Have fun. I've got a show. I've got a video here. Ret, as you take a look, Rhett, loving the wave. Oh, not so.

I got up too early. You're kind of on board there. I was up. Shoulders. You can't lift those arms up. So maybe this time. You dropped it off on there. The wave is coming back around.

Let's see. How does it take a listen here? There we go. This is multiple laps. Talk about some Mo here. Oh, no. You missed it. You were really into it.

The play was back on and he doesn't miss a shift. You're too focused. So he has the new GM. Pro's pro. You're scouting your scouting your kids. Was that when I was in the Mickey Ultra Club? Where am I there? I'm not sure where you are.

I see your hair. I've long since given up keeping track of you. Speaking of which, let's do the Pinder Report. A presentation of Village Honda at the Northwest Auto Mall online village honda.com paying top dollar for your vehicle. They got a million dollars to do it. Sell them your vehicle. Get a tropical cruise for two now at Village Honda presents the Pinder Report.

Game 82. The last for many players in Calgary, Silk. and the last chance for us to watch the 22-23 team, which had so much promise and so much dysfunction. But look at this, so much denim. Milan, Luchin, that's how you close out your career in Calgary potentially. Rocking the Gene Zito. Fuck yeah.

I mean, maybe you could throw on some Python belly boots and belts, but, I mean, that is A1. If you're going to go out, you go out on top, Milan. Don't be doing no PTO nonsense in another market. let that Canadian tuxedo, Game 82 in Calgary be it. And you go out on top, baby. Now, are you going to bug him about the hair coloring?

Milan could do whatever the hell he wants. Hey, Frost and tips. Yeah, go. Go tell him that. Me? Me? Tell him that? God, no.

I think you're the guy for the job. I think the toughest guy in the league gets to do whatever the fuck he wants and no one says shit. That's kind of how the world works, right? Yeah, okay. Everyone agrees. I was ready for you to fight me on that or something like that.

Let's move along. So there's the game. Clearly some great vibes going. That's a vet. Now what about the kids? How about another Calgary Sports legend ahead of the game pumping up one of his hometown boys? Jeff Garcia!

What's up, Calgary? Hey, this is Jeff Garcia. And I want to bring a great welcome to my fellow Gilroy homeboy, goaltender for the Calgary Flames tonight, Dustin Wool. Hey, you're a battler, you're a fighter. You're going to come through, my man. Continue to work your tail off and be the best that you can be. Just like you've been the best, the last couple years,

you're going to rise and shine. Be it, do it. Let's live it. All the best, brother. So both from Gilroy, California, Jeff Garcia and Dustin Wolf, home boys. We need to work a little bit. What do you call it?

Is that working the mic when wrestling? The stick, yeah. There's some energy, but I feel like a couple tweaks. He cut a good promo there. Pretty good. Yeah. Like if that's square one, we get him into, you know, get him into the, Brett, into the Hart's basement.

We can really work on this. Him and McCarty could have a little bit of a little bit. Oh, and coming up. That's right. At WrestleMania. Yeah. Brother, I'll be ringside as your special counsel. The Gilroy guys are coming for you, San Jose.

Get those tag team straps ready. Yeah. I like it. I don't mind it. So Jeff Garcia went in it. And I was surprised to see that. Boy, Jeff. Homeboys.

Homeboys. And, you know, sometimes crazy things happen in the last game of the year. Remember when Mark Jankowski scored four against the Vegas Golden Knights? And Akima Liu was getting his name chanted with two points in its last game in the NHL. Last night we had another one of those fellas is. Ooh, the old Zadora roller coaster! It was a triple looper last night. Feast your eyes.

That is indeed. a Nikki Zaddy-Haddy with lids on the ice. Now, it's not a Nattie-Haddy. It's not a Niki Zaddy-Haddy. It's a Niki Zaddy-Haddy. So the Zad-Dog, all three in a 3-1 victory. Is it not a Nattie Hattie? It is all the same period to be a Nattie?

Or is it just three in a row. It is a Niki-Naddy-Haddy-Haddy. That's a Nattie-Haddy-Haddy-Haddy-Haddy-Haddy-Haddy. You said, yeah, that's what it is. Holy fuck. So what would that have paid on Betway, by the way? A billion to one? Holy shitballs.

And you could see he had two. And it's like, this game means nothing, gets it or out the hat trick, and pump him out for a first to the worst GM in the league this summer. See, poor Zad Dog. Can I take a shot at him? Yes. Of course.

He had a terrible interview in between periods. Did anybody say? They asked him about, so what do you think of Dustin Wolf? How has it been playing in front of Dustin Wolf? No comment. He said no comment or he had no comment? He said no comment.

What? Game's not over. Nothing to celebrate yet. Poor Brennan Parker's like, all right, thanks. Yeah, it was a little weird. It was a second or third language, at least, whatever.

I probably didn't mean it like that. So, yeah, it was the hero, was indeed Zadorov. And yes, surf was up in the Saddlewom as you showed. Quite a night. Your boy Zadorov with three. They're doing the wave.

You can do the wave in a meaningless game. It's just when it's a do or die in a one goal game of the third. That's not it. This is it. See? This is when you do the wave. Yeah, I don't know what the rules are. Yeah, it's a lot.

It's starting to feel like Walker's fan handbook, which is a lot. I really didn't want it to go this way. I think so. Really didn't. I'm disappointed. It went that way. All right. And then the big jump itself got caught on camera.

Dustin Wolfe's first start in the NHL and he starts every game with the launch of himself into orbit. He is not huge. He is goddamn athletic. Like his hoop is above the crossbar there. This is an athlete. This is a showman. This is the best. basketball outside of the NHL.

This is your AHL likely MVP. Jumping around, doing the full splits. They were so frustrated they're trying to throw the puck in the net against them. I know. Can't do that. Legal. Next, we have returning to the Calgary Ranglers, three members of the Calgary Flames.

They papered down Walker Dewer and Jacob Peltier on trade deadline day and then brought them right back up. Didn't go. They just paper transaction. They go back down to join the Calgary Ranglers, as does Dustin Wolf. They lost last night in Abbotsford. They'll play their Friday, Saturday, then season over, and then buckle up for a significant

playoff run. They could, if they do well, Friday, Saturday, lock down home ice throughout the entire American Hockey League postseason. Let's have a nice long run. Let's have a lovely run. And you know what, fans, let's get behind them. How can you not? Get that horse, that dance and horse.

We want to see a lot of that dance and donkey there. He can't even go practice with those guys. I mean, I don't know about practice. He can't play. It was, you had to be down on deadline day. part of that roster to get there. So he was still playing college then, if I'm correct.

Maybe he could have been ATOed for down the stretch. Why aren't you guys doing this with me? This thing has to... It feels so good. I'm only going to put up with it because they show this when they win. Okay. The Batusi.

Ooh. Speaking of... Guys are boring. You want boring? Not this fight. How about this going down in Abbotsford last night? I want you to walk us through this. This is Galant for the Rangling.

And, oh boy. This is an old-time slobber knocker, J.R. This is old school. This is right back to your early days in the league. Look at this. And if you're listening only, I haven't apologized. Just take our word for it. Oof.

It's a face punching contest. Gets the lefts going, retro. Oh, holy Christ. Right? Yep. And what a call. Tip of the cap. whoever's calling the Abby Canucks.

You said, sorry if you can't see it while you heard it. It was fucking awesome fight. You may think it's, dude's overselling it. No, no, no. He did it justice. That is, that's an all-timer. Didn't go full homer and try to claim his guy. He called a great fight there.

And Alex Galant, my lord, this kid might have a family. Usually he knocks people out too when he lands in, and he punches. That's guy. It was Gallant against Alex Canlant against Alex Canuck Lapert. Double last name. There are lots going on. More punches landed than line than hyphenated names. That was incredible.

Okay. And then finally, I wanted to, you know, flame season's done. Where do they finish? It's back to peak sadness, fellas.

Here are the overall standings in the NHL. The flames will miss the playoffs. Florida will get in. They are one point up on Florida. They are going to select 16th. That is the lowest you can select while still missing the playoffs. Well,

maybe they'll win the lottery. They could move up to fifth. Sure. I would be happy with that. Everyone would be happy of that? The probabilities a lot worse than the flames making the playoffs there after that loss to Chicago.

So it could happen, but let us temper. And can you only move up to fifth? Like you can't. You move up 10 spots. So 11 and down. You either have to move up the full way or can they pick 8th? No, they'll move up 10.

So if you move up, you have to move all the way. There's two poles of the lottery. Those two teams move up 10 spots. Now if you're third, you obviously can't go up 10, you'd pick first. The next pull, maybe it's five. They'll move up to two, and then whoever's dead last to pick third. Now my head hurts. I know.

It's a lot. And they're like, you've got to change the draft lot. You've changed it three times. We're all confused. Shut up. Let's go to NHL stuff. 15 games tonight. Too much dancing, dude.

Here's what we know. This is the playoff bracket. A lot of things to figure out. You're going to do some learning tonight, Dean. Look at the bracket. Yeah. There's so much to solve here. I love brackets.

Basically, we have Winnipeg cemented into wild. Card 2. We have Central Division 3, the Wilder there. Everything else in the West is up for grabs, including two division leaders. Other side, Boston has won the Atlantic. We know we have Toronto, Tampa. Rangers will be the three seed in the metro, but three division titles on the table tonight. What would Gary say about ladies and gentlemen, we have some parody to announce. Clearly it's working, right? We love three-point games, Gary. Look how awesome this is. And now, to be fair, It's this year it was good. Last year we had the eight teams in the east by Christmas figured out.

That wasn't as good. So we'll take this year for sure, but I don't know that it necessarily means it happens all the time. Here's the slate. 15 games, all but two teams playing. That's boomers math. So email him if that's wrong. Some interesting ones here.

A lot of teams playing for nothing, but Carolina can wrap up the division. Colorado can wrap up their division. Also Vegas can wrap up their division. And some teams who can't move aren't playing guys. Minnesota can rest guys. against Nashville, no sweat. Also, Tampa Bay and Toronto, obviously,

they can rest guys. We know where they're going to be. And there's one other game I was keyed in on here. Well, the Devils can move up too, right? That's correct. They would be the team that Carolina is trying to hold off from winning the division. If it weren't for the Devils, Carolina would have it locked down already.

And I think that also matters. Like the Panthers, there's a lot. Lot action tonight. Gary did a great job. Gary, whoever did this year's NHL script, excellent work. Bring them back for next year. The Calgary part.

That is true. It kind of suck. Stupid writer wasn't, I guess. And Vegas, Seattle, if Seattle wins that, there's a chance for Edmonton still to get first in the West and the division. Is Seattle the surprise of the league? I think so. I mean, I think it was a really surprising first third, and they've kind of just been good since then. But overall, yeah, I don't think anyone had Seattle making it.

You know what it is? I think it's, because you talked about it a lot. Their goaltending was so bad. Atrocious. But this year, their scoring has been outstanding. You're like, oh, their goaltending must have been way better. The goaltending is just okay still. It was better.

Yeah. Just okay. Like you said, McCann's a 40 goal guy. They had some of the most balanced scoring in the national hockey league. Deep scoring, not stars, but a lot of second line scoring type guys. See who they get. They can still play anyone in the division. You know what?

I don't care who they play. Go cracking round one. Let's go. Beat at Vegas. Beat at Dallas. Beat at Edmonton. Or, you know, whatever happens there with Colorado if they do it. Yeah.

Let's go. All right. And yeah, for the Colorado plays tonight. The team they're playing, I believe, is Winnipeg. They're resting all kinds of bodies. Stay tuned for the way of bets. We see if we can bounce on that one. Okay, we'll move along.

Leifes continue to roll out guys who've never heard of. A fourth game in a row, they'll have an ATO. That's an amateur tryout in net. And people are getting diapers full over this because it's the leaves. But it is odd that... People we haven't heard of for four. games in a row are working the gate for the leaves. But there's all kinds of things, like, isn't, oh my God.

The captain in Vegas. Yeah, Stone. Isn't he coming back now? Well, I mean, stuff like that has happened in the past. I don't know that this year it does. My point being, there's worse things than this. Let's not get too uptight about this. So whose panties are filling?

Mark Spectors. Okay. I was going to say it's not league officials or anything. First, all we heard was the two, three, divisional formats not fair in Toronto. Now they're changing the league's rules on bringing up. Okay, just it's, no one's, settle down, settled down. Yeah. Anyway, move along.

I like Mark Specter. Mark, if you're watching, I'm a man. Mark, good fellow. Love to have you on. Just stop with the Leaf stuff. You ever seen, you ever been so bad, you threw your microphone in the garbage after a show, Dean? Only three, four times a week. It's expensive.

I wonder about it at the major league level. Let's go to the San Francisco Giants yesterday where somebody wasn't happy with his performance, tried to blame the equipment, I suppose. That glove. It's the gloves fault. This is a good one I like. So this is Rogers. A pitcher for the Giants,

Rhett? Into the garbage. Just fucking. I'm composed. Don't need that anymore. I suck at baseball. And you know what? I'm going to, let's let it roll here.

Yeah. Junk. And look, you know what? Give him credit. He's cool, calm and composed. Nope. He then throttled the bench about 15 times. He's not overreacting.

He's very calm. Oh, that is a snap. We're cutting it sure. There's a snapshot at the end. Anyway, we'll move along. That's the good part for sure. That is. Just don't need this.

I'm going to go sell cell phones at the mall. Now, does some, do they get, does the bat boy have to go fish that out of the, out of the garbage? Because there will be some spit and chew and gobs in there. Mr. Rogers, do you think I should wipe this down with like some sanitizing wipes? Get that on him! Get them on a new one. It's the fucking majors. News from the footy crew, Cavalry, announced the captains yesterday.

Marco Carducci, the wall in that, the keeper. He back. He was in studio with Rob Curry yesterday. Carducci. Hey. Marco Carducci. Marco Carducci. He doesn't go enough.

The shoveler's a big fan of Marco Carducci, too. Really? Well, I don't look at them. They also have Sergio Camargo, the Canadian named a captain as well. and Escalante Our Honduras pal. Eastback is the captain as well. Like that.

Look at those. Escalante. Let's go. Exciting year for the calves. They opened Saturday in Stinking Hamilton. What? Friggin' forge,

the jerks. Man, if I was in Beelow, I'd go up there in my cavalry jersey and crosswood. Burn the whole place down. You know, don't with me. Big urn.

Lit off some of those smoke bombs. Big earn would be there. That's right. Very helpful. Yeah, he would be. Those forged spectators, careful. Big buffer zone. There's big earn.

That's 2 o'clock on Saturday. They'll have watch parties. Check out their social if you're into the calves. Can't get to Hamilton. Stillways to check out the game on the weekend. And finally, we talked about last night a little. I know you want to talk about it more. I have things to mention about last night as well.

But it was a time to say good night last night. Good night to the flames. And good night to Boomer. Well, sometimes it's not your season, but sometimes it is your night. I'm just leaving for the night. I got my water bottle there, my little gift. There was a moment when you went to the metal detectors on your way out and someone made eye contact with you and there was a decision that had to be made.

Am I stopping this man? Allowing this. Or is this going to happen? And the sheer confidence and swagger that Dean had led that person to believe, clearly this is supposed to be happening. I'm out of my mind thinking I should even stop this. Now, I do need to mention, for those that are just listening, what's happening is we were at the game last night,

we'll talk about it. We were in one of the, the top shelf experience, and on the way out, the building's mostly, it's basically empty by now. You stay afterwards. So I do have a rather large bag, like a garbage bag-sized bag of popcorn. Like if you rate leaves on your lawn in the fall,

that-sized bag. Yeah. So what it is is, is they during the day at the dome, they pop corn galore in the building. All day. And then so some is ready for the sweets, some goes up to the third level, the second level, that whole thing. So this hallway where the sweets are, they would have one of these bags or two of these bags so that the sweets have some popcorn.

Let some corn. And apparently, not a lot of popcorn eaters last night at the game. What am I just going to let that go to waste? No, you were not. Now, part two, I learned from one of the best. It is not the first time we've seen this maneuver. If it were not the lessons that I'd learned earlier in life, I would have just looked at that bag and thought,

oh, that's too. That's going to be a waste of popcorn. No, Ryan, it was many, many years ago where in a similar sort of a setting, we were at the game, doing it in a suite, and leaving, and one long-armed friend of mine, a co-host of mine at the time. From the rectangular province.

He grabbed the bag of popcorn that was about that. I would think. The thing was, then we were going out for some drinks afterwards. I believe we went to Cowboys, and he went to the coat check and checked his bag of pop. What is this? I just, I need to check this. This isn't a coat.

No, but it's going to get checked. I don't think you can do that. Yeah, I can. Slap somebody down, takes a tag, and we'd go to have some beers. Where is the popcorn? The kids were bumped. It was on the table in the morning. Oh, yeah.

While my kids were. Jacked. Where'd you get that? this from Texas what my kid says Texas that's amazing yeah it was you got your set for the weekend

I really I threw that down on social media last night a lot of people had some laughs woke up to that and one fucking steak in the mud that's about $1,200 of popcorn retap day that's your Pinda report that is

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Yeah. Also, now, I saw a thing, you mentioned social media, and it, I think you mentioned, the Islanders punched their ticket last night. They qualify. So all the teams are in. All the teams that are out are out. Remember Bo Horvatt. Yeah.

I think on Monday I had it in the best of the week. I was, how's it here in the island with the new arena? It's great. So it's better than Vancouver, I'll tell you that for free. They just won. They were in a playoff spot. And then it was a little dicey there a couple of days. Are they going to miss now after Horvatt shot his mouth off?

But they do get in. I saw this photo. Apparently they did here in Vancouver. Oh, dear. Penthouse. I've got been, Red, can you tell me about Classy joint. The penthouse, and for those that aren't watching,

it just says FU Horvad. On the marquee. On the marquee outside. So they did here. Word got back to that. Yeah, they don't miss on that sort of stuff. Penthouse nightclub. Do you think of furniture?

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It's not free. That's Contra. So we'll let you know next time. Yeah, and we're in town. A little bottle service. Keep your fucking motion. One of those couches and a bottle of gray goose. It's website might get me in trouble.

All right. That's real. St. Eugene Golf Resort and Casino. We've been mentioning it. You brought it up before. Sadly, we now move on to our kind of postseason. We're still going to be talking playoff and all that. But, you know, maybe it's now time for all of us to book a,

little trip out to St. Eugene. Championship golf course, casino, spa, restaurants, mountains, all surrounding you. Beautiful spot. They have the spring swing golf package on sale now, limited time, starting at just $259 bucks. You and a friend can enjoy a one-night stay and a round of golf, including a power cart. Spring swing available from April 21st to May 17th. One of our people last night was saying, you hear you talk about St. Eugene. Oh, it's awesome. I love it. Good. Love hearing every year. I feel like that might be great. Goalph?

Spa? Yes. Watch the light off. Much like the flames. We have some things we need to iron out. Yes. Jack's new. Brett, you're here for a bit?

When can we do this? How long are you here for? Now, just don't worry about me. When you look at that guy, do you not see total twist off potential? I see what he's frigging wearing as a sweater today. You need twist off. Like when he gets piled up, he's going to twist off somewhat like you where it's like, Whoa.

Yeah. This is, I don't mind a wild card at the party. Yeah. Comes back into the hotel without a shirt on with his. With a speaker blasting. Or the first night you lose him and then he hops on the bus on the way home. You're like, what the, where is he?

I forgot you were on this trip. St. Eugene, don't do that. We don't recommend that. Do it elsewhere. St. Eugene. dot CA.

Beautiful spot in Cranbrook, BC. We'll do our betway. Some buddies that are booking a weekend out there. Yeah. it. We do have to... We got some stuff. So let's do our Betway bits of the day. And we'll call it a day here on this Thursday. Betway are the official betting partner of the Barnberger podcast. Oilers and sharks.

So I was not overly impressed by the sharks last night. Really, eh? No. Not a lot of jump? I think they were... You know, that's probably the best. The sharks are going to want to... I'm just not sure how good they are. And the oilers still playing. Carlson is still win the West. Carlson, man, he walked poor Pellche on the point on that one play. I was going to mention it.

Just gave him a little more room. I know you're eager. You're back into the lineup Peltier. You want to be, I'm digging. McDavid and Drysiddle tonight, Oilers versus Sharks, plus 187 for each of them to get a goal. Oh, man, that number used to be like 300, but they just, they're getting too smart. 187.

And then there's a little head-to-head action. Kuturov versus Drysidal. Points? I believe. I'll double check. I'm going with Drysidal. I don't mind that at all. The lightning, we talked about yesterday, they're kind of kicking it around a little bit right now.

Nothing to play for, but not looking good right now. It has nothing to do with their playoff chances in my eyes. It's just tonight versus Detroit. Edmonton versus San Jose, I'm going to go with Drysidal over Kutrov, minus 118. Not a big payday, but I like it. I'm thinking similarly to you. So Colorado can lock down top spot in the central tonight, and they're playing Winnipeg who's stuck in Wildcourt 2.

They can't move up or down. David Redick's going to start a lot of the notable Jets players that are good at hockey will not be playing. I'm going to hope that one of these two cats are Colorado, who is playing for something against a listless Jets team with Big Civ, David, and that will get a pair of goals. Ranting him pays plus 450 if he gets a pair. McKinnon plus 400 if he gets a pair.

I see lots of abs goals. If one of these two gets two, ooh, we're dancing, baby. Make game hunting. That's a good about a better thing. It was points. Kuturov versus Drysidal for points. That's how that goes.

Well, there you go. Did we solve anything today? We didn't even mention Coronado, but he looked good. Yeah, we brought it up. I was happy for the crowd that they got a win. you could feel it. You heard it from Daryl afterwards, and I think if you're a Flames fan,

you saw it last night, and you probably been feeling it. It's the youth movement needs to happen. And I don't think you're forcing it to suggest that there's some guys that are ready. Peltche, to me, looks like he's ready for prime time. A regular, he can be a regular guy. Coronado until he proves otherwise, it's one game,

but he's got to go into camp, feeling like there is a spot for him to lose. It's a right-hand shot that can finish. And again, you hate to put pressure on these guys, but I'm with you. Wolf? Have a camp. Have a camp. If last night was your first in a Hall of Fame career, then I'm down with it.

I think. Oh, boy. And Wolf, yeah, like refocus. Go on a big fucking run here and get some hardware. Win. Win that thing. Yeah. It does matter.

And that photo that was just up there, for those of you watching on YouTube, that was us last night with, there were RET, and there's Johnny Winwick in the middle. Johnny from ATB. ATB Financial, they donated two experience packages to our top shelf elf Christmas campaign. And last night was the final of the two from the season, obviously. There's Pinder on the end with the old man bun. But we had three different couples. We had Kevin.

We had Jonathan. And we had Gary, who were the three winners. They each brought a guest. We had dinner prior. It's great. Desert. You see the chocolate fountain in the background? There's a little post-game chocolate fountain.

but a lot of money raised. You're not supposed to stick your finger in it. No, I know. I'm not supposed to. My tongue. You're not supposed to jaywalk either, right? A lot of money raised for closer to home, who then took the money and got it to families for Christmas to buy food and presents and necessities.

And I think at the end of, I think it was 19 families, in some cases, families of five, families of six. But it was a great night, and it was a lot. And really because of ATB financial. So thanks to John Win, Wick, he is, he's just one of the best guys. He thinks he's a very good hockey player. I don't know that to be the case. He said he invented the tow dragon.

He's sticking to his guns. He's not backing off that stance at all. So. And if you see Johnny, you can say, hey, that's pretty, pretty awesome of you to help out those dumb Barnburner guys. And next time you need your shed move, don't ask a Norris. Don't get him going on that. He'll, he'll go on.

Big kudos to Gary, Kevin, and John who helped us raise that near $21,000 over the Christmas and John phenomenal, didn't have to do that and was eager to help us raise money at Christmas time for that cause that turned out to be so wonderful. And one final thing for you, you're going to see all those pictures on the wall? Only pictures of Flames jerseys with the letter C on the front, not the flaming C, the captain's C. Looked around that room last night. Tim Hunter spoke. He had some wonderful stories, regaled us. Is that issue going to be solved before next year? I don't an answer, but it's something to maybe chew on for this next GM. Well, when they win the cup, they're going to have to figure out who's going to get it.

Kriman, Poplinski, Aginla, Lani, Lowry, Newindike, Fleury, G. O'Connie, Todd Simpson, Bob Boogner. Be an awkward party if they win the cop, and then all of a sudden it's like, well, hey, who's going to get the, we don't have a captain. You, me, you, me, you, yeah. Daryl would go. He's the captain. Mur? Throw some wheels on. Get out there. Get Murray tweeling around out there. geez

do it that's it for the show tomorrow Friday Hawaiian shirt day big day tomorrow yeah and keep your eyes

and ears peeled as well you might have a special little oh yeah Friday coming at you special location that's it see you tomorrow buddies

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