Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - The Flames Found Their Game… Will They Still SELL?? | BB Clips

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

Boomer, Pinder & Rhett dive into the Calgary Flames, who are suddenly 7-2-1 and look like they’ve found their game again. The wins are great, but they also raise the big question: will the Flames still do the right thing and move out their veteran players, or will they hang on and get stuck in the mucky middle yet again? This is the exact scenario fans were worried about — playing well enough to stay out of the basement, but not well enough to become a real contender. How will this play out for the Flames?VIDEO LINK: https://youtu.be/--Y--EmIJAw#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #nhlpicks #stanleycup #stanleycupfinal #calgaryflames #calgary CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️BARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Seven goals last night, two empty netters. Does count, though. But they do count. They do. You'll notice right here seven. And I'm going to put it right because it just popped in. All you need to know is, well, do they count? Handsome Dan.

There is. $10.10 a goal? $70. There are. Claims are seven, two, and one of their last 10. You've got to love the work ethic. But, man, is this frustrating? They keep this up and they'll finish around 103 points.

course there's very little wiggle room one stretch at four and six they'll be ninth again sad face emoji i mean look it's a it's a really nice run they're still in 29th like both those things are true right they're not going to win seven of every 10 they're probably going to win four to six out of every 10 uh this which is the bigger issue which is where they fall in to be honest and to be fair like there's how many teams in the whole league that are under 500 like five like they're still on to finish bottom five. It's just we're watching a hot 10 game run. That's what it is.

It's a very good 10 game run. Yeah. And we watched an absolutely miserable one in October. They're not this. They're not that. The truce in the middle. Which is what we don't want. I mean, if the middle is 28th, I'm fine with it.

But yeah, if the middle is 23rd, 22nd, so the question becomes. It's hard to cheer against them, though, because they did. Wow, the problem with last Saints game, if there was a problem, it was low. like Huska didn't like the structure. I said it under the Sabres Brodia. I said there's no way either coach is happy with what's going on up there.

Also just an observation. This game took forever. Oh, forever. We left early. 7 o'clock start. You're done two and a half hours, 930, 9.40. 9.55. Let me hit the thing.

Like, what do we? Penalties and fellas. Well, fellas, we wrap this thing up. They are playing good, though. I mean. Sure they are. They are. You can only play who your opponent is.

They've taken advantage of home ice and a softer part of their schedule. And they're playing well. There. Wolf's given them some stability since the road trip. You gave up four, actually gave up five because ones this allowed on the offside. Yeah. And a shitty goal against. And it was not a good one.

So I don't know. Never happened. Didn't exist. Right. That's erased from NHL history. Because I wonder if you said. Flames are going to, Sabres will get four or five tonight. How you'd feel going in.

That's probably a loss. Yeah. They've played the Sabres twice and they've beaten them pretty badly twice. Although the other game, at least it was what, one one into the third or two two into the third. It was close. You know, they've lost twice to Nashville in the same breath, which is weird. They've split with Vancouver, another awful team.

St. Louis has beat them their fifth from the bottom or whatever. I don't know. I would say probably their record is what their record is. And then it'll be their record next week when that's their record. And then after Christmas, whatever record they have, that'll be it. That's their. Yeah, that'll be the record of Christmas break. Yeah.

But what about the end of the year? Same. Yeah. This is a pattern that probably not going to change for the rest of it. No, there is a way that you can adjust your record, sort of maybe try to tilt the scales in your favor. They're not going to do that. And they would be trading veterans that are, you know, even pending free agents, for example. My God, they might be going the other way.

Well, I don't know. I mean, they hoodwinked a bunch of people last year and no, we don't need to trade Rasmus, this and that. And it's like, was last year's success or was it a failure? Like in the grand scheme, big picture, 96 points, unreal. Overshoot your expectations by 16, 17 points. Incredible. Lost on a tie break to get in the plus. Was it successful?

It's like, well, if you were bottom 10, you would have kept that draft pick. You would have picked in the top 10 because instead you gave it to Montreal. Okay. And then it's like, okay, well, maybe if you're a little worse, you would have moved Rasmus and you would have got more last year's deadline than this year's most likely, given what the market for D was. Like, it felt really successful because on ice it was, but long term it hurt them. It's a longer rebuild now. And I'm not saying, you always talk about trading.

Rasmus last year without knowing anything as far as what trade talks or anything? All we know is the trades we saw. So are you going to keep referencing this Rasmus trade? I just think that when you look at Brandon Carlo, who's a right shot defenseman at almost the same salary and what he got for the Bruins and trade with Leifes. And then you hear that the Leaves went to Calgary first, couldn't get the other and went to Boston. And that I think most hockey people would prefer Rasmus Anderson to Brandon Carlo.

I think it would be safe to say you had a first and a prospect of minimum on the table. So does that good enough? I'm obviously. Hell yeah. Obviously Conroy's opinion is no. No. The question would have been, was he allowed and did he really market Rasmus? Or did they make their minds up that we're in eighth at the deadline?

We're not selling. We need them for a piece and we can deal with this in the summer. Oh, so you're smarter than con. I'm not saying that. Why do you hate Conro? Why do you hate Conn? Well, I have lots of conifidence. My murreifidence is a little lower.

Do you think that's what it was? I think it's a big part of it. I think the owner has a real hesitancy to embrace a rebuild unless they're forced into it. I don't know. Do you want to talk to him? The rest. Do you want to? You got a moment?

Do you want to do it? Is that all right? Go ahead. Hey, Mer. Look, we're happy that you got a big pile of money and that you own this team and you spend to the cap. And there's a lot of resources for a winner here. But sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes a little short-term. pain can be a huge long-term game.

Thanks for your ear, Mayor. That's well, so. Yeah, I mean, he didn't really tell him what. I think he's watched the last two minutes. He's familiar with business. Very familiar with business, but like, is he familiar with building a contender? To be fair.

Not many. Like, if you want to peg the flames over his time as majority owner, there's a lot of six to 12th in the west. That's the worst place. to be in the standings, you could argue. Yeah, but you got to stop getting bent out of shape about the Anderson thing until it plays out. Well, I think they'll do fine. I think that it'll be a fine piece of work.

It's just that you might get the exact same return. And didn't we almost put our weapons down at some point last year when they were right in the mix. Yeah, too. Well, he, no, Pinder wanted a. I was had a good. Of course, but was there not a point where you could, well, it makes sense what they did. If we played this conversation for you a month ago, you'd be pulling your hair out. because this is what happens when you watch a 7-2-1 stretch

is you start to believe. No, I'm not. All I'm saying is I'm going back to last year when they were. Last year, they were in a playoff spot. They were always in the- Even though, yes, this is not a team. This is not a sustainable. I don't think this is what, but it's, yeah,

you're going to let them play this thing out. You're not going to take this guy out of the room because you've got a year left. You can trade them next year. Like, there was all that stuff being said. And then you lose the pick, instead of the top 10 and now people want to talk extension. It got musky, muckier.

We didn't really see the extension thing becoming as messy as it did. But that's what's something for moving rest was this summer. Well, it is what it is. You've got to deal with stuff as it comes. Last year it started the year, we were of the same opinion as what we have right now. Rebuild this shit. But this is not going to work out. And then they played.

And they played well. And Wolf came in and she played really good. And they were in the mix. And we had to say, well, go ahead. Go for it. you've earned the right to take a stab at it and not dismantle. This year's different. You haven't earned that right.

I just don't want them to earn it again. So are you fearful? Like I know you're a little bit. Because again, like projections are projections. But when you watch the group and you, you know, we take runs at them for saying winning culture and all that. But like it's clearly group that does not quit at all. There's still belief in that. If you watch.

None of the vets have said, get me out of here. If you watch those. organizations, you know what team you're betting on. Yeah, which team believes in which one does. I'm not betting on the Sabres. I'm betting on the flames if they're going to, if anyone's coming out of this. And when they get to the final bet the over. That's right. So like you had

said, this, so this run, 7-2 and 1, kind of erases that horrendous start. So in a way, I mean, they're not 500, but it's okay, let's, uh, so from this point forward, if they play the way they've been playing. I just wonder

we have to, we put so much stock into that team in the first 10 games. Like this, okay, this is just, and I, listen, I'm telling you, I'm still on team rebuild. I am. I think long term. I'm my, but my fear is they're coming out of it. That they're coming out of it. And now the rest of the way they're going to be closer to being a.

So let's say. I said that a couple weeks ago. I said, are these guys a last place team? And you guys, well, they don't score. They didn't. I still think they could be lost. But again, like, we have to deal with pending free agents and veterans and things like that. But let's say they play 500 the rest of the way.

Is that a reasonable expectation for the group? I think of 500. Because if we erase the ugly nine-game losing streak. What was there projections at the start of the year, 81? If they play 500 the rest of the year, they have 53 games left. That gives them 77 points, if my math's correct. Now, this might be a couple days old.

But essentially, they're still bottom five. Like, if you're below 80 or at 80, like you're going to be a bottom 15, that's 500 the rest of the way. I can love with that. I can live with that, too. Why does it keep refreshing the wrong date? The fear is they go on another 7-2-1 at some point and they start their fingers at.

Look at the fat idiots in that room over there that don't have a clue what you're talking about. Oh, shit. Maybe we are. Right? So they've got, sorry, 51 games, 51 points, 79 points. 79 points. 79 points. If you look at the bet 365 projections is exactly where they have.

It's 79 and a half. And that's fifth from the bottom in the NHH. I am, there is no fears in me, but there's no fear in me that or thought that they're making the playoffs. All of my fear is that there are four games above 500. Yeah. And now they're at 87 points. The real fear in the long term is that you're picking 12 and you don't get one of these four, three, four, three, four, five studs at that. That's what your organization needs more than anything.

But how do you do that as an organization, as a coach and a GM? Because there's no effing way Huska's going down there going. You trade Rasmus. Like, where are they in the standings without Rasmus this year? Lower. He's been their bestie. It's like fact. And so while you could justify on March 1st last year that they've earned the right,

sure, but do understand that long term, you're delaying the trough. You're not getting through it quicker. You're making it longer. And now you're going to entertain bringing guy back for his 30-year-old season on the first year of an eight-year deal potentially. And he'll be declining rate as this theoretical young core. starts to get into the prime. I don't like that at all.

So I'm not backing you into a corner, but I, so put on your GM hat. Yeah. What are you doing today? Well, I think behind the scenes, you're definitely letting it be known that Rasmus Anderson is absolutely available. So you're kind of letting the league know. Here's my ask that this is what I want. And if you want to jump the gun, give it to me now, but I'm going to get this.

And if I, if I, if I need to wait to the deadline, I'll do it. But this guy is on the move. And we look, we got a lot of wingers. I'm listening on guys like Farabee, Coleman, Sharon, like, no one's Sheren go, which, but like, point being like, do you need Ryan Longberg? You got a Klapka? Like, I would try to open some space here. Like, I'd like to see Matt Vigridden in the spring.

Hansik's probably done for the year. That's too bad. Maybe POS facility is going to lay some off again. Maybe isn't. We don't know this year. But, like, there's just a glott of wangers right now. Like, I would definitely be proactive in taking away pieces from this. To what extent?

because you kind of walk in a fine line. Again, we're not trying to back in the corner. Rasmus in a forward. Okay, but Rasmus, what if everyone says no? Then you wait till the deadline. Then your team is still. Right, but you're still got. No, but what you're saying is that your plan is to pull apart.

Now they become, they play poorly. I've said multiple things, but one of them is that like if you took them out last year's deadline, you're clearly much worse. I'm aware of what you can get what you want. Now you do it. But I'm not taking like 50 cents on the dollar to get it.

No, but that's right. If you can get to 95 to 100%. Because you also say that the best deals happen at the deadlock. That's why I don't expect it to happen. So you could be, all I'm saying is we, maybe Conroy has let it be known. I think he probably has. Rass was Anderson's available. I think that's fair.

It's just that their president comes out and says the exact opposite thing, which is kind of frustrating. Yeah, I'm kind of changing. Anyway, that's the messaging they want. So be it. I think they're stuck. If they can't get what they want in a fair deal in return for Anderson, he stays here, plays really good.

which he is helps the team win and now they're back in the mucky middle which is what's happening and so it's like are you taking into account the lesser amount of points you'll get is that English? Fewer whatever you're going to get by moving

you know what I mean? It's a really good question how much less would you take to make this roster substantially worse and increase your odds of a top three pick? I don't know the answer of it it's a good one for people in that front office guys with computers that run numbers. Jack, get on a pender again. Talk to the owner.

Talk to it. Talk to Mur. Doing this again. Okay. Hey, Marr. Maybe I wasn't clear enough last time. Sorry to call you again. You must be busy.

You didn't pick up. Leaving you another message here. If we could move Rasmus sooner than later for something close to what you think's good value, not only are you going to get young assets and speed up this rebuild, but you're also going to have a worst team this year and thus get a better player in the draft. go get him. Thanks, Maher.

It's kind of like that secret Santa. Did you throw in the part of boat if you trade them sooner, you avoid an injury risk? Oh, shoot, yeah. Do you want to call him back? Yeah, one more time. Okay. Jesus.

Hi, Mer, sorry. Yeah, just didn't mean paying up. I had something else to add. Remember when Kristana was going down the tunnel every third game for like two months? We're pulling our hair out. No injury risk on the flames when he's playing for the stars. it's good a going. Thank you.

Bye. Ryan, bye. It's kind of murky. You talked about Tanna. Like did you say, I got a dope. He's got,

he's a smart guy. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if I, I totally get what we're just bullshit. And I feel like if I, if I didn't love the deal,

I'm not doing it yet. Yep. I think that's absolutely. I think there, I'm very confident they're going to get a nice return. And so if you're not seeing things you don't like now, just wait. And,

and if he gets hurt. and they miss out, will we crush him? Absolutely. Like, we will give them the business. He's only got two years left anyway, so we'll just run his ass over. Yeah. Yeah, and that's, that is, that is every team with every rental, right? You can't control the injuries.

We didn't really take a run at anyone for that either. Two years? F's that. It's, yeah, it's, all those guys got two year deals. Who's that? Oh, the management team. Yeah. That doesn't.

It doesn't scream. It's not a huge vote of confidence. No, it's, it's not inconsistent with how the owner likes to keep people under contract. You know what it is? It's putting pressure treated for your deck and not that composite.

Yeah. Good for the short kind of. Yeah, it's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. Yeah, we're probably going to have to touch it up in a couple years, but, you know,

the composite, like I'd last for a long. Yeah, I don't know. It's a little pricier. It feels pressure treated. It's the way to go. right now. I'm going to pressure treat. I don't like it actually.

I never brought it out of thought about it. I'm like two years? What the F? And I did too. It just seems like it's three. Three years is kind of the thing. You know what it is? We were so fixated on why aren't they signing Connie when you saw it done?

There was relief. Whereas if there was no relief and confusion. I can't imagine Conroy was running out the door this summer to sign a two year deal apparently. It seems a little bit. be better. I mean, you take it if it's offered to you. Well, the worry becomes, do you? Because there's some prideful people out there and there will always be some sabers.

Someone will take the job. But do you want people like Craig Conroy and Rob Ray that care about, like truly care about it? Or do you want someone that wants the job? 1 of 32. Here I come. Let's see. Is it? Yeah, I'll go. Like, and it ain't like Conroy hasn't put in enough time. Everyone, oh, he's a rookie chief.

No, he's not. He's been around this for well over the decade. This is 15 years, you know? Yeah. Like, yeah, he's been. Plenty of time. Done the pro scouting steering the ship, but he's running the brakes, right? He's done a good job.

Like, they don't want to say it. But he's, he's, when you look at the team he inherited, he's rebuilding it. Yes. And he's not being supported by, yeah, we like what you're doing. carry on. Two years? The other thing, though, next summer?

It would be naive to say that this man has worked for this owner for 15 years and doesn't understand how he does business either. This is not at a left field. And I think we've talked to this too. A guy calls bluff, not bluff. It's like, fine, F you, I believe. This still doesn't feel like it's Conroy's team yet. No, it's getting there.

There's too many chefs. There's too many cooks in the kitchen. Well, and look, what are the issues saddling the team? it's a lot of the prior regime's mistakes. Like Connie didn't sign that. He wrote down. That guy was terrible. Well, that guy made a lot of deals and some of them were big wins.

Terrible. Some of them are big losses. Big night for our Igor though last night, eh? He had a goal to empty netter. They count. They count, Red. I didn't even know he got back on the ice because I was at the game and didn't see him. I knew he scored.

Then I thought he sat the rest of the game. Wow. Those notches. What'd you have last night? No. Monday. Right. Jeez.

Would have been grumpy on the best. Not even hot, hot butter. Yes. How big are they? How big are they? That's a gift. Jack. down to the dome.

Let's go for a drink. Popcorn Zamboni. What are you talking about? So do you remember the gravy zambonies that the way? Yes, yes, yes. I imagine it's the same, but way bigger, right? Way bigger. Well, I didn't get one.

I just saw it. It's for sale. I was working. So you're telling me that you love popcorn more than any other human I saw. Don't you worry. It's on the list. Okay. B.C.

Need it. Yeah.