Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - The Stanley Cup Finals Are Set Ft. Frank Seravalli | FN Barn Burner - June 3rd, 2024

Episode Date: June 3, 2024

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Just drop my pen, stand by, talk amongst yourselves. How are we doing everybody? Rabbit, Rabbit. Bad start. Doesn't bode well. Yes! Yes! There was no way I was ever going to be you.

That drop pen dean is huge. Oh, the drop pen. Who! See? What a step. How are we doing, everybody? Welcome. Happy Monday.

Happy beginning of June. Did we accomplish that? What did we do in May? I mean, you got away for a little bit there, Pender, but the rest of us. You were worried about, you said, boy, geez, you know, the season ended April 18th,

there's going to be some tough sledding in here. And I just see the show is getting longer and longer. So the point, again, going back to that particular day was, what should we do? Let's come up with some ideas of things to do. We've done nothing. You've done a great job. Have we?

The airwaves very sufficiently. Yeah. Yeah, we, sufficiently. Do we do airwaves now? I don't know what it is. Yeah, the digital thing. It's out there. It's out there.

So you, you don't look very tanned, Pinder. I wore black today just out of respect. I'll wear weight tomorrow and rub it in your face. If anything, you look pasty. You look kind of like he needs some of the black on. Yeah.

Yeah. See, I worry about you. Almost too hot to be in the sun out there. That's Dean. He's always worried about you, Pinder. Yeah, he really is. When you were gone, it's all he would talk about. I hope Brian's okay. It's a worry warrant.

I hope Ryan's okay. No, it's, I just worry about you with all the, you know, the time that you've invested in the narrative of. Yeah, well, it's not over yet. I mean, it's definitely tough times. It's tough times, but. But even now to have made the final, it would seem to suggest there's some things going right, that there was some. It's only about banners. It's always only been about banners.

Okay. That's all right. And if McDavid era ends without a banner, I'm hosting a parade. I'm sticking to my guns. It's looking a lot closer than I'd thought. Because who's the old GM? Three to Vancouver. You know, the old GM, what was his name that you?

A GM, our boy. What was this? Shirelli? Yeah, Peter Shirelli, going back over the course of time, just dumb moves and model balls. He's been there for 10 minutes. Let's go. Yeah, believe they signed this guy and you didn't sign this guy when you should have signed this guy.

And what were you doing getting this guy, drafting this guy? You should have been drafting this guy. And then it's like, oh. It turns out that you got two superstars, maybe three. And that's, you can really screw up around the edges if you have those guys. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's even some of the things, too, right?

Where it's, yeah, well, just wait until they can't rely on just this one thing. And then another thing kind of falls into place. Okay, well, they got a couple of things. And then, well, you can't just have a power play. Well, how about a penalty kill? The penalty kill is actually got to. Power play. Oh, shit.

Well, the goal is all right, too. Golly's been real good since they went to Pickard in the Vancouver series. Yeah. Itled right in there. So how about it? The Oilers off to the Stanley Cup final. And they'll play the Florida Panthers. Well, I mean, I'm excited for Canada's team with Sam Bennett and former Flame Mathickochochuk.

I played his junior in Canada against these traders in Edmonton. McDaniel played his junior in America. It's America's team. Go Panthers. Canada's team, Florida Panthers. There you go. How do you feel about it, Warner? Keeping in mind, you picked the Oilers to win the series.

You got what you wanted here. Well, I think I tied you now in our big. Oh, did you? Yeah. Our big, uh, yeah, we don't really talk about. There's nothing on the line, yeah. Yeah. How do I feel about it?

I think they deserve to win. Yeah. They won. It's funny. Last night was maybe their least inspiring performance of the entire postseason. and, you know, I think it was circumstantial.

And I disagree with you in a way. I know what you're saying. It's not like they put up a bunch of shots or went for it. I think they scored those goals. And sadly proved they were good enough to defensively kind of hold on to it. Yeah, they didn't exactly hold Dallas at bay there. The scoring chances were 29 to 8. I know.

They didn't. They proved they could win a game. They weren't even that good in. Like, that's probably as men as they've looked. I'm not saying they, it's how you want to look at it. I'm happy to blast them for lucky to win. But they got up by two.

Yeah. And held on for 50, however long it was. And we're going up to do it. They're not fluking their way to stop. Yeah. And that's not the blueprint that you would expect. It'd be like,

they're up by two. They should put a dagger in them. And I still think they, I still think that's a better approach for a team like that. The scary thing is when you're not an oiler fan, they just did it without that approach. Yeah, they set records for the conference final for least amount of shots and a win, shot differential on a win.

That's not the blueprint to win, but they proved that they can win even when they're not playing that well. And that's never been their calling card. No. You've been able to pick holes. Yeah. Defensively. In so many different parts of their game until now.

It's not who scored, McDavid scored. And then, of course, it's a goal. an assist, but it's not just the power play. Five on five, they're not dead. They can't, it's not like they can't keep up defensively. It's a pretty well-rounded game here, retro for this. Yeah, that's what, yeah, and I think instead of trying to say, well, look for shortcomings, you have to give them credit for, that's exactly the blueprint they can have now. McDavid had two points and they won. Yeah. McDavid had two points and they have 15 shots. They won the game. Yeah. And in the past, they probably are two.

leak you defensively and their goal doesn't go 33 or 34. Yeah. And I'm not saying they didn't deserve to move on. They absolutely did. They're better than the stars. It's just a little bit ironic that that's probably their worst performance when you look at, they've been pretty good at outchancing out shooting teams.

I don't know that they've allowed 35 shots in a regulation game in the playoffs this year. It was sadly impressive. I thought. I mean, again, it's easy to look at it because you're not a, I'm not we're not and lots of people listening

might not be fans of the Oilers. It's easy to go, oh, they, how can you win 10 shots? Oh my lucky. I don't think so. I think they got up by two and they were comfortable playing that way. Yeah. Yeah, they were comfy. I still think you need an amount of luck to win a game like that,

but yes, they were comfy in it. Like, it's 10 shots. Like, how many times your life have you seen the team win with 10 shots in your life? Like probably less than a hand. Okay. Well, then, you know, if you make a 12 shots, 13, 14, It starts to kind of get either way. They did what they've not been capable of doing.

Let's protect the lead. Let's protect the house. Let's get some big saves. Let's kill penalties. Let's defend. Let's back check and commit to defense. Yeah, all on the same page. What did you guys see from Dallas?

Because I, boy, I didn't see all of this, but they looked nervous in the ozone. Like couldn't make a five foot pass when they wanted to. I liked nothing from the Dallas stars. after they went up 2-0 in the first period of game 4. Nope. Didn't like that game. They went up to nothing. And I've got hurt if I'm correct.

And that was and that that was it. Yeah. The Oilers didn't look back. They cruised in game five. And I know they were outshot, but and maybe it's just my, you know, my negative mentality. I did when it was 2-0, it's okay, well, they're going to steer this home. One way or the other, I didn't think they'd get whatever, seven shots or, six or five shots the rest of the way.

But that Edmonton ended up winning after going up two nothing, not stunned. Agreed. Really not shocked. And a year ago, maybe you definitely are. Maybe six months ago you are. This is something different. There's something, you know, we can take it all away.

Oh, we're going to be all over to Calgary. We hate them. If you strip all that away, there's something very impressive about what they're doing. Yeah, there's two teams left and both of them deserve to be there and are hugely deserving of praise because this was a tournament that we thought 10 to 12 teams could win, maybe more. Like we talked about it in round one, outside of what? Nashville, L.A. and Washington and the islanders. Like you could make any case for anyone here.

You really could. And so for these two to be the teams left, they both deserve it. And both teams believe they're going to win this thing. And both teams are jacked. And it's like, this is our year. Everything's lining up. Here's Spike. Johnston was their best player, a 21-year-old.

I mean, Jamie Ben was good, but did he have a shot? I don't even know, did he have a shot last night? They just, they were done. And I think they knew they were done. And I don't know what happened because truly they came back after they blew, the Oilers blew that two nothing lead in game three and they win. And then they go up two to nothing. Series should have been over in five tops, right?

Wow. I feel like a veteran, like a team like Dallas. There should have been zero risk of. of not at least getting, well, yeah, they should have game seven. Western Conference leading team in the regular season.

We talk about their D, their defense, how well-rounded, 820 goal scores, the depth and all of that. That team was up to nothing in a game where they could have taken a 3-1 lead in the series. And they shit themselves and didn't look themselves

the rest of the series. Now, got hurt or whatever. So that's part of it. And we know that both sides injured but they just the the the moxie they showed against colorado it was just nowhere to be found in the last two and a half games yeah you they had colorado so frustrated that they were in control of it where it was the opposite in this edmonton and i i have to say because game two for the oilers they were winning that game it was tied i think going into the third and

and Dallas ended up winning, but I'll just, my point is that if you went period by period as to who played better, I think the Oilers played better in way more periods from the Dallas start. It was the same with Vancouver when they were down three, two. Oh, we blew a three goal lead in the first period and the third period of game one. Or we like that was why I thought Dallas was going to tied up last night. We've seen the Oilers look home and cool and then, oh shit, here comes the comeback and now we're off the overtime. but that clearly didn't have. But yeah, like they, even the games they lose,

they've blown leads in. It's not like this has been, you know, scratching claw. They've given some away to opponents for sure. So the penalty kill goes perfect for the series, 14 of 14. They were perfect against L.A. They went 12 of 12.

And what, 20 of 23 against Vancouver. So they are 46 of 49 through 18 games. 93.9%. end. And we were told that they were, power play. That's all we could focus about. That's all that, you know, they got to put the whistles away. Just let them play, refs.

Well, it don't, it doesn't seem to matter because that, and I don't know how, I don't know what. I don't know why. Was this anything we were talking about in the last month of the regular season? It was about their penalty killing team. Right. They've been a good defensive team too since like most of the year. They didn't get saves for a month.

They fired their coach. They started getting saves and everything else was already, there. Started scoring at a normal rate. I mean, it sounds oversimplifying it, but if you just looked at their PDO, their safe percentage and shooting percentage, it explains the first month entirely. About half the number of goals that were usually go in, we're going in, and about double the amount of goals, the goal that should be allowing went in. They changed coaches, but everything went back to where they normally would be, and they've been the best team in the NHL since the coaching change. There it is.

start of the season with a record of 5, 12, and 1. And they are off to the cup final. And this is how we talked about the St. Louis Blues. This is very much the same thing. Really? It is? No. How isn't it?

Well, St. Louis was January and no one had expectations them to win a cup. Edmonton was like a top two or three team by Vegas to win the cup four seasons started. They're favorites. Okay. nitpicky, but they were 31st. I think it's a big number. The blues are huge

underdogs to get to the final. I don't feel that way about Edmund. They were 31st in the point I'm making is they were dead last in December and have made it to the cup final. So it's not identical to St. Louis, but it's pretty rare where you see a seller dweller or regardless of expectations.

Yeah. I mean, turn things around. You could have made a lot of money if you'd have taken it and throwing it on the Oilers. Yeah, I've seen some people posting receipts. I mean, they still have to win the cup, but to make the final, you would have won your bet.

Yeah, they, look, I mean, we all, even when they were bad, it was like they're still going to get in, right? On this show, we enjoyed it, but we knew it wasn't going to last. They were too good, not too. I may have been a little on the other side, I think. You thought they're going to miss the playoffs? They had two wins in the first month, six weeks of the season. I mean, they were right by the outdoor game. What was that the 10th of November?

Maybe a week after that? Like mid-November is pretty early. November 9th, they lost to San Jose to go to 2.9 and 1. Yeah. That's like, that's less than a month into the season. November 14th, they were last. They bring a knoblock on the 12th. So by December, they're already like probably flirting with a playoff spot.

November 22nd, they're 5, 12, and 1. And then November 24th, they beat Washington 5.0. And that was the first of their eight game winning streak. And then they lose three. It's impressive. 16 straight. To bounce back from that shitty start, to win the way they've won,

making the Stanley Cup finals is not easy. All of it is. It's funny. How many interim guys have we seen win? Like two in Pittsburgh? Balsma and Sullivan? For sure. Yeah, I think Sullivan did too.

One of the guys in Jersey for sure. Fetoric got run in someone else one or the other way around. Larry Robinson? Maybe. I mean, there's so many changes in Jersey there. One of those, I believe, was an interim midseason higher. Like, it's not that crazy in the sense that we all knew the ingredients were there for this to be a very good team, hence the preseason favorites to come out of the West, et cetera. But yeah, it was like, okay, what do we do to get this group going?

Well, what's the easiest thing to do? You can't fire the players. You change the coach. Give everyone an excuse and hope to get more saves. Boom. Sorry, Scott. Can we stop talking about the oil? It's hard.

It's hard today. It's hard being a hockey show and not talking about, not talking about the Oilers. Skinner, there's a lot of things that you just, again, you could not have seen coming. Before the poll against the Vancouver Canucks in that series, he'd gone five and three. His goals against was 3.23.

And an 87 save percentage. Comes back in. He's gone six. and two, 1.69 goals against 920, save percentage. Since the pickard pull, man. Since the pickard, oh, Calvin. Count! Oh, Calvin.

So I get it. There's not a lot to like here because, again, it's now the oiler fans. Everyone's looking, this is Canada's team. They're looking to, come on in, come on in, the water's warm. We're going to love it over here, cheer for the oilers, which is hard for people understand why it's hard for. Vancouver, no. Calgary, no. Rest the country, not sure.

I don't know. Like Hyman said, I don't know that Toronto's going to be cheering for us. He might be right. I'm not sure. I don't feel like Toronto's on the right. I've never really understood that, hey, now you should cheer for us. Why do you need to, why do you care who other people cheer for? Cheer for your team and hope it goes well.

And I think it's part of this whole no one's wanted since 93 that becomes the narrative. But like even Frank, a couple of weeks ago, it's like, every year we do this. Or why? Like, this isn't the Olympics. You understand this is club sport, not Olympic. not a national team. Your kids saw the Stanley Cup a couple years ago because Braden Point brought it home.

Bring it home. It's in Canada every bleep in summer. Yeah, it was just here. 12 to 20 different cities. What do we talk about? A car had it here a couple years ago. Braden Point. Yeah, it's, it's 89.

That team had it there over the weekend. Yeah, it was just here in the weekend. The Vegas goalies had it here last summer. Like, what are we talking about? But I, you know, whatever. You know, whatever. I get it. I see it.

I understand it. But for, for Euler fans, it just, you're just going to have to, accept that not everyone's going to be cheering for you. They're America's team. It's been claimed. I don't know if you guys saw that. Yeah, yeah.

They're America's team. Panthers clearly know by default, it's being a candidate's team. Another reason why it might be hard is, uh, Corey Perry is going to set an NHL record. Unbelievable. For five different teams,

he will reach the Stanley Cup final with all five. Well, he could do a really nice thing for us too here this year. He could be, he could, not win for the fourth consecutive trip to the final, that'd be something. Please go ahead and do that.

More in a row. I know it's Tampa there. They didn't win that year. Different teams. If I'm correct, the Tampa year was a loss. It was. Well, yeah, he didn't. Yeah, he won with Anaheim,

and then it's been three straight. But there's lots of, there's, you know, McDavid is so fun to watch. That goalie, who four rows? And then, you know, on the other side, you've got, you got Corey Perry. Oh, just good things happen to good people. I'm excited for Evander Cate.

We can bring in our next guest. He's our Hockey Insider with Daily Faceoff.com back in the home studios in rural Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Luke Hall. Let's go, Frank. Did you want to throw up the who are we going to cheer for the Oilers question again this round? No, I'm good. You're good? Yeah.

I think the answer would probably be similar, even though it's another round and everyone's very excited. I know Philly's always back to Penguins when they get to the final. so you'd expect Calgary to do the same. Hey, look, if you guys want to, you know, you want to cheer for the Panthers there after they fleece the flames, that's okay. Look at the Potster.

Yeah. I don't think they fleece the flames. I think the flames just did dog shoot with the assets they got back. Oh, okay. So, yeah, all right. A first rounder, a top pair defenseman and the guy that finished second league scoring.

I mean, at the time, did you just, did you say that the Panthers fleece the flames, Frank? I didn't, but I would say that there are maybe you can count on one hand the number of times that a player like Matthew Kachuk comes available in any manager's tenure. And that, by the way, of course, we're keeping in mind the perspective that this was his choice to leave. But nonetheless, that is a hell of a player. Yeah, we agree. It's a very hard show for us to do for the next couple of week, Frank. I just take it easy.

By the way, how's Sam Bennett working? Like, that's... All right. Yeah. I mean, that's actually, that's way more damaging than Matthew Kuchuk. And you know what, Frank? You're actually right. It wasn't going to work here.

Sad is it, you know, it just... Why? Why? Why on Earth? I can give you my summary, if you'd like. I mean, he was never going to usert minutes from Monaghan or Backland down the middle because he wasn't good enough. He took lazy, dumb offensive zone penalties all the time.

he never eclipsed 13 goals since his rookie season and he played his way to the fourth line on a team that was making the playoffs. So if we're going to talk about management of assets, so just give him the ice time he hasn't earned? I mean, so is it chicken or the egg? Do you actually like have to get an opportunity and then? Got lots.

Okay. So you're comfortable with how. He didn't play well. Honestly, we sat on this show and the only reason I bring it up It's like, I'm not trying to do revision history. We lived it. We came in every day for years saying, what the hell do you do here? Because you've given him spots on the top line and he farts them away.

You've tried him down the middle of talent. It doesn't work. He takes stupid penalties and puts you on the penalty kill. It's time for a change of scenery. I don't think Sam Bennett embraced the way he has to play to be good until left Calgary Fair. And the playoffs, perfect. But they really embraced a blue collar role. It didn't do until he left.

Can I say this too? I think Sam Bennett, I think the playoffs are where Sam Bennett excels, and that's where Sam Bennett found his game. Yep. I think he played the playoffs here. Is it against Colorado? Well, he was a best player in just about every playoff series.

In the bubble against Dallas. He was very good. He was a great playoff performer here. Yeah. Make no mistake. It did not turn out great for Calgary. The winner in the end is the Florida Panthers. They have San Bennett.

Let me ask this question again. Yeah. You cheer in for Florida or you cheer in the oil? You kidding me? Are you for the penguins ever if you're a Flyers fan? Ever? I just had to ask. I'm sorry.

Well, I don't think you have to ask. Why do you? What do you should know? You don't cheer for Pittsburgh if you're a Flyers fan, do you? I don't cheer for anyone. But you're in Pittsburgh or you're in Philly. You know how Philly fans operate, right? Yeah, that'd be like, yeah.

I'm trying to come up with my equivalent is what I ever root for the Cowboys. boys at any point. There you go. The answer is no. I'm not sure. How don't you like the way these Oilers are playing? You watch it. It's a team effort.

They're getting goals and contributions from up and down the roster. It's hard not to like them, Pender. They're playing an exciting brand of hockey. Love them. I mean, you can make fun of them all you want. The character that they showed in that game four win against the- We're not even making. fun. You strip away all the bullshit. They deserve to be there.

Colorado doesn't deserve it. Dallas doesn't deserve it. No one else. Because we thought, well, you get L.A. Well, that's a soft touch. Vegas didn't play well. They don't deserve it. There's no, it's hard. The oilers absolutely deserve it based on their performance in the last two months or month and a half, whatever it's been. Since the fire. Yeah. Well, yeah, if you want to go back that far, honestly, since then they've been the best team in the NHL. They deserve to be a representing the West, Frank, no question. All right, let's move on.

Well, I don't know what else you say. I guess are you, what, we were talking about it just before you got on. From the point that when Dallas took the two nothing lead in game four, that's what I just said? They just took, what happened to the Dallas stars? They went out with a whimper. I mean, it looked like oilers are cooked here. This is the last thing that the goal he needed, that the team needed, first shot on goal,

one nothing Dallas, then two nothing. Looked like it was going to be a runaway and it was going to be a off season of extreme hand wringing. What do we do in net? What are dry sidles a year away? All of that. No one's talked about that. What did what happened to Dallas? It looked like they ran out of gas.

They looked like a team that went to war with Vegas and Colorado and came through on the other end of it with one leg sheared off. Mm-hmm. I guess that's the collateral damage when you have. have that path. And it's amazing to think about how all of it changed for the Oilers based on a couple mostly meaningless games 81 and 82. Totally. Could have been Vegas in round one. It could have been Vegas in round one and then what? They might not get through Vegas. Maybe they do, but it's certainly a lot tougher than L.A. 100%. And they smashed L.A. in special teams. they had their own issues with Vancouver,

which part of it was them shooting themselves in the foot, blowing a three-goal lead in game one. Part of it was the fact that Vancouver's, you know, their defense was really physical. And that, I think, raises some real questions for the Oilers, heading into the cup final, now going against the team that's way more physical than Dallas. I mean, that was one of the weirdest conference finals I've ever covered.

It really was. Why? There was zero. Dallas more physical. Where was that depth, the scoring depth, the 8th, 20 goal guys? Where did all of that evaporate to? Edmonton had the deeper team.

I know. That was, yeah. They subbed in healthy scratches that were unbelievable. Philip Broberg, he was great. Corey Perry comes in. They establish a cycle game for the first time and felt like two weeks.

And then Dallas, Joe Pavelski they kept running him out there and I was like Why? Yeah, what's happened? You can't get there. You heard Pete DeBore say,

we're not going to get through this series without Joe Pavelsky making his mark on it. I was like, man, that is the gambler's fallacy. That is like, hey, we're due. I mean, it looked for one game when Hints came back and ignited Jason Robertson. Okay, well, here you go. And then, you know, did Robert,

Robertson play. I thought Robertson was wildly ineffective. Hints had some had a few chances, but shots missing the net. They weren't physical. Their goal tender was okay. I don't think it was Ottinger's fault. I didn't play with desperate. They didn't have a signature game either though, right? Auditor didn't steal one here. But to your, yeah, right, I mean, it, the stars that ran to the top record in the Western conference did, it was night and day. They looked tired. They did look there. Travel matters out west. The fact that Edmonton played Vancouver is helps, I think. Did you, honestly, I've done both.

It matters. I tried. I lived, I lived in the West this playoffs. I did Vancouver, Nashville round one and I felt like I got punched in the face with a bag of dicks. Um, that really sucked.

And then, you know, you know, what with who? Yeah. Um, well, I've heard that,

it's Edminson after all, but whatever. That does happen from times of time. And then, you know, Vancouver, Edmonton, that is a boost. But Dallas, Colorado, that's the same thing. They also, what, shortened the end of that series of game sooner than Edmonton, too. I don't know that there's a huge edge there.

Yeah, that's, to me, it was the more bruising nature of going up against Colorado and going up against Vegas. Yeah, tougher teams, I think. But are you way tougher. They made you work at for every inch of the ice. So round one, we're always excited for round one, left a little bit wanting. I think we all kind of talked about how that was, and you had said, hey, sets up for a great round two. And I guess it kind of did for in for the most part. We had a game.

disappointed. Yeah. I mean, I guess, you know, what didn't we just say? Dallas, Colorado was tough. We thought we had a gem there and it just wasn't. What do you mean it wasn't? Like the one game, they blow a three goal lead. The next one, they almost blow a four goal lead.

like how much more drama do you want? And then, oh, by the way, one of the the leading goal score in the playoffs fails a drug test right in the middle of the series. Like how much more drama do you need? No, it was drama off the ice. It just didn't live up to being a good series on the ice. They came out flat after the Natchewski news

and that series was over those games four. This is like three weeks in a row. I come on and you guys are a sour bunch of pricks. Did you see what's happening here? It's the Dallas Cowboys in the Super Bowl, Frank, wake up. What were you guys upset about a couple of? weeks ago. It was like, God, you thought you guys even like hockey? You

and the Boston Pizza Marketing Department thought that something about in club sports, the nationality of the club team, even if they're your rivals. That wasn't the point. It was the nationality of the players. Yeah, the Olympics in two years. We're excited for it. We can cheer for Connor finally. Four nations next year. Let's go.

Okay. No, you know, I kind of see I would say you are familiar with rivalry though. You can understand why 100%. I'm not saying you should, I just ask the question. Like, will now Jets fans get on board? You guys are different.

You're in the same province. That's never going to happen. Right. And the Canucks just, they just lost in game seven of that team. They're not going to suddenly, those two fan bases went at each other, like animals on social media.

I'm still getting carved. You thought that Vancouver, Edmonton game seven was a thrill a minute. And it was, it was a snore fest. I stand by it. All I said was it ended up being a good game. And you guys were in the building,

feeding off of energy while everybody else was watching it. You're sitting on your thumb on your couch and you're telling me how bad it was. The Canucks have no life. There's no energy. There was nothing. And yeah, what, the final five minutes? They scored a couple to get it close. They shit themselves for 55 minutes in that case.

You guys just look like you don't have anything else to talk about. It looks like you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You've got your palm on sitting crushing corn in the press box. No cheering in the press box, Frank. I thought that was the rule. I mean, I think we could be somewhat. Somewhat what? I mean, let's be honest.

What do you think I'm rooting for here? What do you think I'm hurting for? In Edmonton, Vancouver was what a dog it was. And you came on here and said, man, what a great night for the game. What a great night for the sport. What a showcase of tremendous. Did you watch the last, did you watch third period? Ten minutes were good, Frank.

The final ten minutes are good. If you're at, if it's a game seven to decide, hey, is the, is the, is the Conner David Legacy in 2024 ending here, are we going to have to ask a whole bunch of questions about whether this team is a pack of losers because they're gagging on a lead that bad. You don't think that's good enough? What more do you want in game seven? More than 10 minutes. 45, 50 minutes to be in a sense to be like.

To play. Desire to win. Yeah. We're good. Like, anyway, that's, that's rad. I didn't realize the bar was so possibly high, Calgary. It's not a catch. It was the second worst case

of all the time. Ret was on the other one. It was against Anaheim Red. Is that right? I know how to do. Oh, fuck. What a disaster. So what's the narrative with the Rangers? Because similarly, it looked like they.

They cut, well, we can keep doing this. You're wrong. You can take the L or we can keep three on one beating you about the head and shoulders with it. Oh, I'm scared. Or we can move on and talk about something else. I'm scared. Rangers.

They too looked like they ran out of gas, injuries, intensity. There was none of it, which is kind of, again, disappointing as the president's trophy curse continues for what feels like a lifetime. Oh my God. There's another dumb thing. The president's trophy curse. 2013 in Chicago? Last one.

Is that right? Yeah. Do you know what percentage the president's trophy winner wins the Stanley Cup? I guess it curses. Zero since 2013, Frank. It's 25%. So if you get a 25% shot to win the Stanley Cup every time you win the president's trophy, I'm taking those odds.

I'll take that bet next to your Frank, okay? You get the president's trophy winner. You get four to one. Let's go. Okay. All right. There it is. So what is it?

Is it parity? Is it the mentality of a team that is finished first? I don't know what it is. How do you explain that the Dallas stars don't score a single power play goal an entire series? how do you explain Sergei Bobrovsky having more points than Mika Zabanajad

five games into a series? I don't have an answer for you. I don't know how that works. How did they just simply get squashed by Sasha Barkov? Is that the easiest way to say it? Or is there something else to the Rangers just going cold

at the absolute worst time? One team moves on to. That's what's so hard. Watching Zabanajad and Crider, they were non-factors until it was way too late in that series. And we showed the effort from Zabanajad and the, I guess, the second last game where it's, it's just hard. It's hard because you start to criticize character and all of that, but then maybe you find out,

well, the guy's groin is torn and he can't get around. And I wondered about, we've got the goal here. You watch Jacob Truba on the goal that was scored by Sam Bennett going back a couple nights. So it's right here and you watch Truby. He comes in. He gets completely blown. He just blows right by.

Truba's no one's questioning his heart or character. But this looks like a guy who can barely, it looks like he could barely move here. Couldn't even lift his elbow. He looked off there, Frank. So again, when it comes to criticizing heart and character, or do you have an injury that you just can't play through

and have they stacked up to the point that the team can't contend, giving credit to the Florida Panthers. But the Rangers, they look, remember, they win for seven games of their post season run? Yep. 6 and 0, 7 and 0 to start the postseason. Bad wash. And go out on a lit.

They were almost the first team ever to start a playoffs 8 and 0 in the post-1987 era. Yeah. Well, and for the president's trophy thing, seven teams finished within five points. And that's, you're talking less than a single point a month. Like there were, we talked about it before they started.

There was 10 to 12 teams. You're like, they could win. I don't think that the range did anything wrong here. It's just like, only one of these teams is going to win. The Rangers decidedly better than anyone this year. No, they had a one point edge on Dallas, two on Carolina,

three on Florida and Winnipeg, whatever. And how much does it come back to Barkoff? He's great. The guys that he went toe to toe with these three rounds so far. Nikita Kutrov, zero goals, David Pasternak, one goal. Yeah.

and then the top line for the Rangers Sabanajad zero Panor and one in junk time at the end there yeah Criter had one I mean So what how do you see this matchup shaking It'll be Barkov against McDavid as much as possible From Florida's perspective? I would think so I think you just

Continue to do what works I have a really difficult time with this This series picking it because on the one hand I believe Florida is the better team and not by much. I think anyone saying that this series is a slam dunk for the Panthers hasn't spent enough time watching how well this Edmonton team has defended. And 28 consecutive kills, that's no joke.

So the other part of it, though, is you watch game six last night and you go, who, how do you pick against McDavid? Yeah. And that's the part that I'm really struggling with. I think Florida's the slightly better team on like a 52-48 basis point, something like that. But what about where, how much does the McDavid factor carry over? And he's been their third best player so far. Yeah.

And I mean, who, Rhett, I can't, this is so blurry, I can't see. But how many players score on this sequence, Rhett? One, maybe two. Like it's, I don't know who else can do that. It's unique. Here's a question I have, because I agree with you. It's easy to go off Florida. For some reason, it seems to be a common.

Oh, yeah, Florida. Well, I think if you dig into it a little bit more, it's tougher. But what I wanted to get- I was watching ESPN after the Panthers won on Saturday night. And the commentary after the game was basically like, so when are we handing Florida the Cup? And I was like, tell me your network just only broadcast the East without telling me your network only just broadcast.

It was crazy. They're like, and Florida's going to be huge favorites, no matter who they face. It's like, really? Like you guys, but as far as Edmonton goes and the challenges,

because Florida's going to be the most physical team they've played probably. And Vancouver would have been the other. And I actually think Vancouver. But Vancouver's forwards aren't physical. That's the difference. The D. Yeah. But I'm just talking physical in general.

Does that matter? And Bobrovsky is still the best goaltending. played against i don't care ottinger to me was good but i think bobrowski's playoff performances are speak for themselves so i agree with all those things you said which is kind of scary and then second um to flip that a little bit further red this is also the worst goaltender that the the panthers will have played yeah basilevsky swain and schisturkin shistern yeah that's they brought a gauntlet for sure pretty good well i'm trying to think about florida like Aiden Hill probably was out for them too. It could matter.

I mean, it's just like, what are we looking at? Is it the Skinner from the first half of the Vancouver series or the guy since? Like, fuck, Goulton. Since the poll, he's six and two with a 920. Right. I said last week at the start of the series that if somehow Skinner could get to 900 for these playoffs, the Oilers would be playing for a cup. And he got to 897 pretty close.

He was unflappable. for a guy that looked like the moment was way too big for him, the entire playoffs to that point. How many guys go out and get a reset and watch a journeyman backup come in and then don't come back in and shit their pants after that? Yeah. It is going to be a group of bullies in the Florida Panthers. That's by Matthew Kach.

Because what do you do? What's the right? Go for 97 at all costs. And you have to be careful because of the power play. But what else are you going to let's sit back? Let's play. They're going to play their style. And that has been we're going to run around.

We're going to be physical. We're going to score on our power plays. There's nothing wrong with our special teams. But I think that there's going to be a little added focus. Get to the goalie and get to 97. Yep. But no one's been able to do that. This is the greasiest team in the league, though, by a mile.

I mean, you want to run through it. Like it's Kachuk. it's Bennett, it's Lomberg, it's Gajovic, it's cousins. Like there's a lot of guys with dirt under their nails on this roster. Lots of majors, lots of post-wistle scrums. There wasn't one against the stars. I know. Yeah.

It was the weirdest. The only emotion that existed was in the momentum swings on goals. And even then, it was more so just in the fans. Yeah. And you know, that's funny because, like, didn't you feel like that's a place where Jamie Ben could have moved the needle when you tried to, handicapped this series. That's just not what Pete DeVore teams do.

I was going to say they took so much pride in being one of the least penalized teams and so disciplined and all that, right? The regular season, least penalized in the playoffs. And probably one of the focuses would be for sure for them. It's five on five. Five on five, we beat these guys.

We've got the better goaltending. We're better on D. We're deeper. In theory. And it, all those things were just theories. Yeah. They were not deeper.

And they definitely ran out of depth on the back end. I'm sorry. but when Alex Petrovic is playing after five exclusive years in the HL and then when Tanna was hurt, they were thinking about going with Leon Bichel to make his NFL debut. Like that's not depth on defense. Yeah. It's weird that in the other.

One of the four that they kept running out there was Ryan Suter who looked like he was in worse shape than Pavellski. What, so Hock and Paw is a free agent he's done there. Was he just never available? Like I'm trying to remember when that happened because they should have just added one more depth guy if he was he couldn't play the whole story was me he can't play five but maybe he can play six so why didn't they had another d then that's so weird that's well they also

didn't spend their first round pick that's right as flames fans remember yeah yeah and the flames by way lost on all three conditional picks they're game seven round one game seven round two game six round three pain yep that's tough a second a third a third it's not a good it's not a good it It just it's all kind of the city, the fan base needs to take a couple weeks off. Edmonton, Bennett, Kachuk, yeah, it's no added. So what day are you guys coming up for game three?

Coming up. So the draft in Vegas, yeah. Yeah. I like the tickets in Florida, Frank. If I go anywhere, I'm going to Florida. Yeah, Florida is a great place. We'll meet you there, Frank. Yeah, see you like.

Can you get some alumni tickets? You can't. What? Cup final. Is that right? Hey. We value our alumni. Tell the finals.

Good problem to have. Yeah, it's, we're going to sell these for a thousand apiece now. Shucks. So what else is going on? What else have we, we've talked plenty of, of this,

I feel like. Man, it's a, I wouldn't be shocked to see a couple deals materialize this week. Let's go. Everyone's in Buffalo, Frank. Not everyone,

but lots of the combines. Oh, yeah. They're all in Buffalo. Today's day one. Every year I'm, I'm like, I'm going to get to the combine. And then every year I'm like, but it's in Buffalo and the cup finals on. Yeah.

I've just been traveling for three weeks, four weeks. Yeah, but it's fertile ground. Like this is the place to be. Like, this is where all of the top executives and agents are. Like, things are happening. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Martin H.S. deal materialized. Walk us through this one.

Because I think clearly skilled player that hasn't had huge opportunity, but also a guy that wants the bag before he's earned it, so to speak. Like he wants it on skill. That's not true. So he's an $8 million player? Or are you buying what you hope he becomes? I think he is. What do you think he is?

Well, it depends on the term, of course. No, I think you're buying on what he already is. So 25 goals, 60 points max? That's the ceiling? Yeah, I think he's, buddy, he already hit 71. Okay, okay. Did I lose you guys? Yeah, sorry, you cut up for a sec there.

Yeah, someone's cut it now, but we've got you. If you've got us, we've got you. So who are, if you can hear us, who are some likely candidate? Yeah, there's some, not sure what's going on. It's that, it's that Philadelphia internet, maybe. It's that rural internet. We can hear you, Frank. You're spotty as far as video, but you're talking is.

Yeah, so a better way to phrase it. Tell us about the player. Where could he go? Or, yeah, candidates that would be lucky to add this guy. Oh, Calgary's on the list, man. I think they're trying for sure. He fits the exact, the exact profile of what the flames have targeted to this point. Think of Sharon Govich, guy that's put up decent numbers that never really was going to have the opportunity to do so based on the depth chart that was in front of him.

That team had to move. The difference between Sharon Govich, which the flames were able to be in early identifying. on and natjas is everyone has seen this they've already seen a 71 point season as a 24 year old and they're going yeah wait so you have uh... svechnakov and you have set jervis oh and you need to pay set jarvis and you don't really pay guys market rate anyway what's it going to cost for us to get our hands on natias so um he's certainly um a very hot commodity is my understanding And the interest has been so strong that there were some rumblings over the weekend.

Is there any chance the deal gets done that quickly? What's it going to take for Carolina to pull the trigger? Keep an eye on Calgary, Vancouver, and I would add in Columbus, but I'm sure the list is much longer than that. I think it's eight to ten teams deep. Is there any, I guess, and tied in there for Carolina. Is there any hope for them to keep Jake Gensel? Yep.

Yeah. I mean, I think, I think Gensel fits on a lot of teams, but he looked right at home there. He did. And, and he's a guy that, I think, comfortability chance to win are pretty high on his list. He's going to be paid regardless. I think they've already sort of begun. They're trying to put a bunch of different puzzle pieces together at once. And oh, by the way, they don't have a permanent GM in place. Eric Tolski is the guy running the show as the interim. And they've got Jarvis to pay for the future. Do you want to bring back, bring. Brady Shea on your back end is what's it going to cost for Jalen Chatfield? There's like seven things. Are you keeping Jordan Martinook? Are you, who else are you entertaining to keep?

And then, oh, by the way, who do you want to trade for and or target in free agency that Carolina's got a lot to do in a short period of time? So with that in mind, if, I mean, we're really pushing the cart in front of the horse, but if you're going to do a nature's deal and you have designs on paying Jarvis keeping cancel or whatever. You probably don't want a contract back then. Because we try and spit it. Well, what's the deal going to be? Is it Markstrom? It would feel like that's the connection. Well, that's a $6 million goal. So that doesn't really help them pay Jarvis or keep Jake Gens.

They want firsts. I don't think they want Markstrom anyway. Okay. I think they're a team that feels really comfortable based on their MO unless they're totally changing their theory and their and how they approach things. But that between Coachetkoff and Freddie Anderson under contract next year, that some combination of the two of them is going to be enough to win. Gotcha. So what would they want? Picks,

and then they can use those as they see fit and don't have to worry about the cap? Potentially package those to get something else. My guess is that they'd be trying to find or leverage some players that they feel fit exactly what they're trying to do within their pay range. So if you're Craig Connery, do you take calls on your first round? or is this look where we are, we need to collect good young players.

They're not in the conversation. I think if you could get your hands on a Marty Natchas, that's worth your first rounder. Which one? You've got two. So, yeah. Number nine, I'd have a tough time with, given that you're immediately jumping into his,

you know, pay a market rate. I agree, but at the same time, I would definitely lean toward the Canucks, of course, the Canucks pick. but for me the draft is such a crapshoot does it

like I want the guy that is scoring me 30 goals has the potential for 75 to 80 points I'm taking that guy all day long over a mid to late first round pick even if and again I'm putting words this is my own thoughts I think they're stuck going to have

to do some sort of rebuild even if if their plan is to be not good next year? Does that, you know what I mean? Or the year after? Like, if Conroy's sitting there thinking about trading Markstrom, does that change his approach to getting this guy?

I think it should in a way, yeah. You know what I mean? Or can they, can you do both? Do you think that makes sense? Well, you've got Wolf, right? It's not like, but frankly, their first, their first goes to Florida if it's not in the top 10 next year.

If you want to just talk strict asset management, I understand that they're going to try to be good and all that. But with Markstrom, probably finishing top five or six in Vesna votes, they finished ninth from the bottom this year. They sold a second pair at the deadline. They're not going to get as good a defense place. You're also operating under the assumption that Markstrom's going to get traded, and I'm not there yet.

Well, okay, but what I'm saying is what's the likelihood of Markstrom repeating this year? It's low. Well, he can go ahead, but it's going to be even tougher because you don't have a second pair. 100%. His numbers after the deadline way worse. So it's fine. My point is if you're tracking to be a bottom 10 team and you get to keep your pick if it's in the top 10,

you can do a Marty Nature's type deal in a year rather than now. No, because you're not going to get him. I mean, not him, but these types of situations aren't that uncommon. 70.0.24, 25 year old players. Is he a center? No, I don't think he wasn't. He was a right now. Center.

And they have a shit ton of wangers. That's the other thing that I, that I like the player. I do, he's a guy that's kind of flashed for me for a long time because Fetchikoff injuries, this guy moves up the lineup, plays pretty well. But if I'm the flames, man, I, I want a centerman. I want a young centerman. How else do you get them?

If I'm giving up firsts and paying big money, I really want to make sure that this center is a center if I'm going to do it. Just my thoughts. Because I'm not sure, to your point, I'm not sure he's a center. Yeah. And I think not a center. He's a right winger. Yeah, clearly.

And the Vancouver pick, it's like, oh, move that one. I don't know that Carolina can find way more than pick number 28, I'd suggest, right? Contending teams, this is a very valuable piece to. Yeah, I would think for sure. Maybe even Vancouver, yeah. So if Vancouver does that, where does that leave? I know we're keeping you along here. Sorry, but like they've got basically half their decor needs new deals.

Hronics and R that's commanding huge money. I don't know how they could afford to pay an HS. You're saying goodbye to everyone, basically. No Lin-Hul. in Zedarov. Yeah, none of those guys. Linholm, Myers, maybe Myers. So are you, uh, go ahead.

Is there anything else? Because you said, like all those guys are in Buffalo. There's going to be lots of discussions or anything else that's on the. That's, that would be from the trade perspective to be right at the top of what's percolating. And then this is when you're going to start to connect the dots on, oh, so and so team really likes this player. all of a sudden those conversations magically leak out into this totally illegal tampering period from June 3rd to 8th. So I'm excited. Are you jetplaining to Sunrise and Edmonton?

I am. That a boy. Where are you connecting through? Montreal? Yes. East Jabip. It's a nightmare for travel. This is the longest.

between two Stanley Cup final cities ever. Yeah. And no direct flight to make it even better. There is a direct flight on the charter. Yeah. Oh, the media charter. There is no media invited on said charter. Well, so yeah.

Right. For mortals, of course. Yeah. For mortals. For media. You can't bring the unwashed onto the charter. Stinks. Yeah.

Well, we'll be thinking about you. We'll be thinking about you. I'm sure you want. Enjoy much. No, come on now. Come on now. I mean, what's,

what's better than getting stuck in the Denver airport, a couple more times these playoffs. But I'm not the guy that's out there tweeting it. No one cares about, it's the tiniest violin. No one cares about. It's totally true. I don't know why people feel the need.

Any sports journalist that's like tweeting about their airport delays, like no one cares. It's a big elf. Don't do it ever. All right, pal. So what is the, what is the, because you got to wear a suit, right?

You're a professional. Suits in Sunrise, Florida, in June. Ooh, douche. Yeah, that's not going to be me. I'm going to be wearing like those Lulu lemon pants, the microfiber ones with not the sweatpants. It's the ordinarily. I'm a big fan of Lulu pants, but.

The dress pants, not the sweatpants. No, I'm, I hear you. And then I'm going to go, I'm going to go, like, dress shirt with a jacket. Good stuff. You're great. You got to air out. Canada goose jacket? Yeah, yeah.

You do have it back now, so there is that. Yeah. All right, Frank. Thanks, Frank. Bye for now. Operation. Bye, Frank. That's right.

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I'm totally cheery. well Frank's right you guys have put a negative spin on this whole playoff it's not our fault it's goddamn lottery balls they didn't have to win their fourth fucking lottery in seven years no i mean listen round one we were just tap of florida's going to be great it was we had what would we have we had boston toronto that was good one that was a good one edmonton beat l a five let's go back the series weren't super dallas vegas was very good we got seven there we got seven there we got seven there We got seven out of Toronto.

And then in round two, Carolina shipped themselves against the Rangers in the first three games and then came back. Florida never really felt close, even though it was probably a good series. Edmonton, Vancouver. Good. Go seven. Maybe the best series of the playoffs so far. Yeah. And we had higher hopes for Colorado, Dallas.

Frank loved it. I thought it went out with a whimper when they didn't show up for game four. Lost on home ice to go down three one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know. I do feel like this is going to be a good series. And to Frank's point, and I don't know. If people think the Florida is just going to roll here, no.

I think they're. It reminds me a little bit when Pittsburgh and San Jose played. And San Jose looked wicked. And I'm like, oh, San Jose is going to tune them in. They're flying. And then you got them on the ice together and you realize that, oh, Pittsburgh could keep up with you. guys.

2016. Yeah. Right. One of the Mike Sullivan Cups there, Jacko. So I think and noodles opened my eyes last week when he argued

with Pinder a bit or two weeks ago maybe before this started. And not to be saying Edmonton's depth is better than what we're giving him credit for. It has been. It has been.

I didn't believe it either. I mean, it really didn't. It was a, It was a, noodles was right, but I didn't see it coming. I didn't either.

Very little from the bottom six, especially against Vancouver. The CC nurse pairing was so bad. They had to break it up mid-series against Vancouver. But like, look, they'd give them credit. You know,

Frank wrote a piece less than a week ago saying the Oilers have a darn-all nurse problem. He's been great since that. Yeah. It's not like the Oilers haven't had some rocky waters here to patrol. They've just, you know,

Chris Noblock, give him credit. Chuck. he's he's pulled the right levers broberg it seemed like a perfect time for that given how well he's played and then you know you've got fogal and perry and mcclode and other guys rotating through the healthy scratch they come back better and then and the the cc nurse thing they've addressed it and then and then dallas did their part yes right Dallas did their part they they made not easy but they made the job very manageable

very manageable because I did not like anything about them after that after the two nothing lead and that's it's interesting because frank right the numbers are great for skinner dial scores again skinner gets yanked yeah and that came sure yeah totally i think if scald scores end that first period because they're going down three one yeah he led in a goal from behind the crease on robert like there are still some ones where he'd want back and They remind me Smith. Remember game two, Battle of Alberta. Yeah, you're up to nothing.

Backlin misses that breakaway chance. Smith's yanked if that goes in. And instead, he makes a save or Bacclan dumps it in the corner, whatever it was, and it was dumped the corner. And then it just, the rest of the series didn't lose again. So another one of the series where the edge decidedly coming in is in favor of one team and the other team wins it. Go back to Winnipe and Colorado in round one.

Remember that game one. Georgie 5. I mean, who we were going to start used to Sanan, right? It was game two. You had to start the other guy. Yeah. And then Hallibuck couldn't keep it under five goals against. And Colorado moves on.

And then Colorado doesn't look good against Dallas. And Dallas moves on. And then Dallas doesn't look good. So it's crazy. It's part of it is whatever path you take. L.A. wasn't great. It wasn't much for the Oilers to get by. But Vancouver gave them all.

could handle credit to the Canucks. No one else in the West at the end of this. Can you say, yeah, but if they deserve better, all those teams, all of them. Yeah, Vegas, you blew two-nothing series lead. You got what you deserved. You're up to Zip. And you could have won in game 82 if you really wanted Edmondson. Up to Zip on the road member.

Yeah, coming home. Home for three and four up to nothing. And lost that series and seven. But honestly, that's this tournament. This is, we haven't had the mass, massive upsets this year, but there's been some surprises. Like last year, you had the defending cup champs to Seattle in round one, and you had the best regular season in the history of our lives,

blow a three one series and lose to Florida. Last year, single tournament. Every year, that's why this is the best. Because you just, you think you know what you're going to get and you don't. Have there been any long overtimes either? Couple, where we have a double. It's a double. Two doubles, I want to say.

Yeah. It's two. Because the Dallas, Paul. Colorado, DuShane scores. Wyatt. Wyatt Johnston. Wyatt. Wyatt and Watt.

Watt and Watt. I remember we borrow us in that. Yeah, I'm just trying to think of those types of games tend to add some. Yeah. Whatever. Excitement to think. Yeah, maybe we're just grumpy because we see where the flames sit right now. You know, and you talk about getting, I can't say the guy's name.

Marty. Natchez. You want to go get at Natchez? I think, yeah, that'd be a nice fit. Sounds like a nice player. Does it fit in the timeline again? Like he is young enough, but do you need to expend, do you need to commit to that guy without knowing what you have moving forward?

And are you moving Markstrom? Is Wolf good enough, right? Like to say you say you got Wolf, well, to me that's like, okay, but is he? Do you? Let's say it took you five years, Rhett, to get back to the playoffs. NACIS is now 30. And on a Stanley Cup contender, he was the fourth or fifth best forward.

like the player, I don't love, I don't love the idea of the flames paying up to get him. Agreed. Because there's another part of it. I think he's a very skilled player. But as we watch this playoff and you see some highly skilled guys kind of evaporate here and there, this guy was a third liner for Rod the Bod. Yep. Right? I just, just put him, again, fanboys for Rod the Bod, right?

Right? That's what we are. But I, here's a guy. He's a center. No, he's playing on. the wing. Oh, well, where is he playing? Third line. I was just kind of looking up where the season ended, which can change. What's going to want eight? Yep. And I'm sorry, like, if you can't crack the top two lines of a cup contender, I don't want to give you eight. You might be a great player,

but Jack Drury, Jordan, Martin Hook and Martin Natchez were on the third line. It was Tara Vinen, and Stahl and Jarvis on line two, Gensel Aho, Svetchnikov. Now, if you don't have Gensel, then maybe you are playing higher in the lineup. And, and you go out and get Gensel regardless. If you, if you can get him if you're Carolina. I don't know that it was a nature's problem that we had to get a little bit deeper, but we'll take them and keep them away from whoever else in the east if we can get that deal done. It just, it doesn't feel like a slam dunk to me. So Pike has been like here, first off, we're, oh, is it a retool?

Is it a re-bubel? There's five skaters left from the Battle of Alberta to less than two years ago. You can pretend all you want that it's not. It is. So like if you don't want to call it that cool, whatever keeps you warm at night, everyone's gone from the last team that made the playoffs. You've missed the playoffs two straight years.

You're picking in the top 10. And you might move Markstrom. And so now you're basically- You have. You traded a bunch of guys on expiring contracts. It's a re-billed. It just is. And so then it's like, okay.

So it's how long are you into the rebuild? Well, it's been three months since you really started pulling a shoot on your veterans. You're three months into a rebuild here, fellas. This is when you accumulate. as many lottery tickets as you can. And that means not moving firsts for guys that are already into their free agent money. You could do it, but I just, I don't know that it,

it's, let it build organically. And you're not going to bottom out as hard and you're not going to be as good at the end of it. That's all it builds organically. Don't chase. Yeah. Like if they want to, if you want to work a player for player deal,

sure, but you have to keep all your lottery tickets at this point. First rounders, second rounders cannot be going out the door the next three years. Don't be competing with other teams to try and get. an asset and a piece that you think is unique to your needs. Totally. You have too many needs to try and go single one out and go, this will feel. 100%. Now that we've got Marty Natchez, we still don't have a centerman franchise player.

And we still don't have a top pair guy. And our goal he might want to leave and it might be no good. Yeah. Yeah. And so do you like him? Sure. But when you say the names like Vancouver, like, well, that makes some sense. because they're there, they're in their window.

And you don't even... You add that guy to a winning group, there you go. Yeah, and I don't even think they can get them with what they've got, because I don't agree with you. You can't give up your number nine pick for this guy. That's insanity. And you don't, and the other thing is you, with the draft the way it is, you don't know what you're getting in that position as far as your draft pick.

You might have the second best player in the draft at number nine. You might have the second best winger available in the draft at number nine. You're the best winner. Or the best, like, you might have the best D. Like, honestly, when you look at these six defensemen, I'll throw Yakim Chuck in with the other ones. Like, So I have six, seven, and he could go at two. He could be there at nine.

You're telling me you could have a six-foot-seven Russian defender who played in the KHL at 17 on entry level and below market. You can lock them up for seven years here before you have to pay a free agent money. And not worry about the mistakes a young defenseman's going to make, right? Like, go play. Natechis is very good player, not a quarter piece, Carolina. He wouldn't be, this wouldn't be happening to it. There you go, Conroy, we're giving it one of these.

I'm holding up my hand. It's a stop sign. We're saying nay to Natchez. Go down to the Harbor Center. You know, there's often little things. Think back to 2004. Flames go in their run. Peter Marr, yeah, baby.

Becomes a thing. Everybody's, yeah, baby. The red mile, the green hard hats. Things happen. And you look, it's like these are little kind of mile markers along the way on an incredible run. Well, some are wondering if the Oilers had theirs a couple last week, a few games ago. This lady has been an inspiration. I don't know if you've seen her.

But she has been an inspiration to many. young and old at the, uh, whatever rank they call it there. Um, there is, there is trending viral video online. We're not going to show the video because we're classy.

Mm. We're above it. Oh dear. But this, this lady right here exposed her breasts. Online. She lifted her shirt. She,

uh, for all to see and then brought her jersey back down and was having a very, very good time. You can see. Is that a Barnburn or blonde? I'm wondering. They serve in blondes up at the, they love the show in Emmerton.

You kidding? Yeah. You see the guy in the orange hat down there. He's kind of taken that kind of sheepish sideways. Hey, how you doing? So there are people who say, they're never going to lose again. And it's all because of this lady and her and her breasts.

And stuff is happening online. It's just, it's inspiration, right? Sometimes you just need a little something. Twin Peaks. To, to get you inspired. shirts off for Kiprasoff.

I don't know if this lady has a thing. But it feels like one of those things. It's all fallen into place for the the copper and blue, I guess is out there. Something like that. Do you guys want a couple minutes to go and find the video or do you just carry on?

I'll say for later. I'm sure. Yeah, I haven't seen it. What are you talking about? It's like fucking three days ago. It's a, that's like a thousand years in dog time.

Before we get to the Pinder report, let's do this for McLeod Law. You know, let's kind of shift it because it's fun. Listen, it's not great right now being a Calgary Flames fan. Yeah, Bennett could chuck this whole thing on one side and then you got the oilers on the other side. Oh, boy, I see you know, that whole thing. Well, McLeod Law, Peter Klein,

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Back out. Nice play to the left side. Gindlin is up there. Againal leaves in. Here comes Nilsson. Nelson looks for somebody. Find somebody at the line where here, shot. It's step cold game loose now it is. And San Luis would all over and be swung around there. Calgary with a heat on again. Coming in is Nelson, a little backhand around the net, hoping for something to happen.

Gidlaw, he looked at the net. He'll go for it. Out front. Here comes the shot that's knocked down. And Tama Bay Lightning and left him as San Luis couldn't get the pass to him. O'Gillan picks it up and leaves him. Here's Nilsson coming in again. No shot in there.

Hard around the net. Saprikan got the back. The rebound in, and you can see the joy. It's Calgary now one win away from the Stanley Cup, and that game is at home. A hard fought overtime, I'll tell you that, but the speed of Olegs of Prekin paid off. And the Ginnemar was instrumental on handling the puck inside the line.

This record crowd stunned and leaving now, as maybe the cop will win. Out West in Calgary, Alberta, Canada on Saturday. Join us. We'll find out. I let it run there just because of the Bob Cole. Saturday. Join us.

All the Bob Cole is and we're in there. We've got a Warner on the ice. We got Chris Simon with one skate off. There's Roman Turek. We got Monty out there. Watching that, look at that grubby bastard in the left there. I mean, this guy, this guy's in rough shape. Um, and for the first part of that, you watch it's, okay, so there's St. Louis and La Cavilliers and Andre Waugh.

And where's your other D? Because you got Pratt who there. Oh, there's Dan Boyle. He's running around. It was, uh, what do you remember about this retro? Oh, I just remember watching and you just praying it goes. in. I don't remember. Honestly, I've seen

this goal enough through highlights that you almost forget what was going on when you were sitting on the bench. Like, I almost wonder if we started to come up. I couldn't have been. I don't know. We were just ecstatic. Yeah, yeah. And then now you're mad. You're watching.

How did you screw that out? Like, how did you? You had a couple chances at it. Look at Nelson. Just weaving around. But it's what People call the shift. It was one of those things in this series. Iggy had a couple of those moments.

The scrap against the cavalier. We showed that last week. This play here without the lid on. He fires it at the net. It would have to change. Today's game, yep. Put your helmet on or get to the bench. You'd have to get off the ice.

A lot of different rules than back then. Yeah. Yeah, some stick work and all that. Water skiing through the neutral zone, flipping it out of play. Who cares? Well, yeah, that was quite a while ago. But that's on this day in Flames history,

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Did we talk about the lady with the boobs? Did I get that in? I just saw a lady with a shirt. on. I didn't get to be a must have cut out here. I'm just looking at things because I want to talk about, we talked about the president's trophy. We talked to my chairman. Convery did it first. Someone in the chat was saying.

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The Pinda Report. We back, boys. Oh, it's been a difficult spring for Calgarians. but it didn't make the there's the Simpsons meme which Nifty Chris but together here flames okay no Well at least LA but

No But the Canox but No Dallas but No Panthers and Maybe Maybe

The good news The Panthers haven't been cursed by having a condition pick going to the flames if they in this series. So no huge weight to carry around like the one that Dallas, Vancouver, and Vegas could. Yeah,

we didn't win, but at least we didn't give up that pick. Ooh, we. Yeah, Dallas being eliminated means the flames do not get an additional third rounder in the TANF trade. It will remain. The second rounder and Grushnikov for

Chris Tanov. Yeah. And the bottom half of that tweet will show you where they select in the draft now that Dallas is that we know with the orders it is picks number nine and twenty eight in the first round we already knew second second to be 41st and 60 second you get it two in the first two in the second two in the third two in the fourth that's eight picks in the top four rounds go find some hockey players Connie that'd be great well it's let's play a silly game how many out of that do you need to be impactful and wow it's true more the mirror it's just yeah like go get a superstar and you

Who cares? But yeah, I mean, it's where do we draw the lines? Whatever. You've got to get some players. You have to get players that are going to be impactful, is almost too strong, but be able to be at least depth players because if you don't hit on some of these picks, that window of recovery just lengthens. I would say if you could find a core player in this draft class, that would be a win.

Is that not, am I setting the bar two? low like a guy where you say we build around him this is a flame for 10 years this is a wear a letter yeah and and you know what's crazy is you look at all the kudos and compliments going Dallas's way Jim nil for the drafting that he's done all of that now there's still hints Robertson Johnston hayskine and those guys are still it's going to be less about say again and Ben here but even with all of the credit that they're getting, you're still six wins away.

You've still got some work to do. And the Oilers have been eight wins away until this year, right? And that's with two of the best players in the sport. It's hard, man. It's hard. Colorado, same thing. They've had all of these star players. Well, they won the one.

And that's, that's what you want. But it's, what it is, it's just so much, it's just vividly clear that nothing is as easy as you think it is. One team wins. You draft. you trade, you train, you practice, you do all of this,

and it can be over so fast. You think about Jamie Ben, it's another year where he's going to sit there. Well, Pavelsky can contribute. Yeah. It's probably in the line for Pavs unless I want to sign a $1 million, one year thing. Yeah, but he can't contribute. It's just anyway, whatever.

Yeah. And we'll learn more over the next 24 hours, I imagine about what guys are playing through and all that. You never want to write a guy off only to hear that he was, Oh, yeah, and he had six tendons explode into space in game four. But, yeah, there was certainly the longer in the two Dallas stars didn't have a great series, which is interesting because Edmonton's the older team. It's funny also, not funny, but just reality of, well, you think you're going to win cups.

It's so hard. It's so hard. Oh, we are putting together the team. We're going to win the cup. We're due. We've never won for the Rangers have not won a cup now again. after going 50 some years for 30 years. 30 years already.

There's 32 teams in this league. Yeah. Like you should get three a century if you're doing really well. Yeah. That's how it's going to average out. That's what you hope and pray for. That's if you're a team that can compete with. How long have the Sabres been in 50?

Yeah, was there a 50th anniversary? Yeah. And Evanton needs to win, but they've had the two best players in the planet for a number of years. Yeah, and they still, this is the first time they got more than eight wins. Yeah, they're still, they're still needing some work to be done. Anyway, we're going to talk a lot about the draft coming up. We've got two major draft shows that are going to drop before the 28th of June in Vegas at the sphere,

when we will find out who the flame's first rounder is. This is an incredibly unique draft class in the sense that there's no consensus from two to ten. These are the athletic Scott Wheeler rankings that dropped, I believe, this morning, yesterday where Anton Selyev, the 6'7 Russian slides all the way to nine. He, a player we've seen in top three in numerous mock drafts, just to underline the volatility after we see, you know, the first pick come off the board. It's really just, hey, what do you like? There's a lot of guys in the same box.

Ginnla slides to 12 in this one. Caden Lidstrom, who seems like a lock in the top five in many mocks, goes to 11 here. There's some injury history there. and Yakimchuk, a guy that is 6-3, 30 goals, right-shot defenseman. Like, there's all kinds of volatility here, fellas. So for all the times you're hearing, Teage won't be there at 9, won't be there at 9.

He might not be, but he might. That's a pretty good prospect ranking there, and he does get past 9, and the Flames don't even take him at 9. This is wild from 2 till the Flames pick. Could be anything. I, for, in Conroy's case,

I hope that it's almost all decided, for him. Yeah. Right? Can you imagine if there's three guys and you're, the Ginla, Saliav and Lidstrom, yeah. And you're going, you got a center, a D, and the winger.

That would be, you'd be great to be in that spot, but it'd be tough to be in that spot. I'd be selling it. Oh, yeah. Live back two picks. Trademarks from getting another one. Let's go.

But yeah, it's fascinating because the draft starts at two this year. A lot of years, it's like, oh, there's a ledge after four or five, we're at six guys. And then, no, the draft starts. the two here. We all know Celebrini's going to the sharks and after that I was like, who knows? Where do they got that Eiserman? I said this to my kid. Well, so he

jumps up in this one and he drops into the teens and other ones. He might be the best goal score in the draft class but it's a one trick pony. It's just the best trick you can have, scoring goals. It seems like he's, in most of them that I've looked at, if anything, he's fallen. Yeah. It seems like there's some reason to think that maybe

it doesn't translate, whatever it is, but he was very, he and a lot of them has slid a little bit. Yeah, like in McKenzie, he's slidden. McKenzie's has a lot of weight because he talks exclusively with NHL scouts and builds his list off that. Yeah, like it's, I said earlier, you could have the second best player in the draft at nine.

It's because there's guys we see going at two in some mocks to get to nine and others. There's just no consensus. So you've got those five great defensemen plus the Ackham check, and you've got Winger, Demadov in Russia, Lindstrom, who has injury issues in medicine hat, but has been an absolute force in nature that plays the middle. It is huge and physical. again low with the monster second after the year.

He was healthy scratching the playoffs last year at this time. Like, it's wild. This is going to be a ton of fun. And some defense that have all world skill, but holes in their game defensively. And some guys that are monsters are great defensively, but where's the offensive side? It's a bit of everything.

It's like, what do you like? Yeah, you're drafting kids when you don't really know what they are yet. Yeah. And in this year's case, it's just there might be a big box from 2 to 12. And you put all those players in there and be like, we think they're all comparable values. What would you like to shop for? Here's your gift card.

Pick one. So two shows coming up. Two shows. We're the primer and then we'll do the mock draft. What are we doing those? I'm going to do them. I'm not going to bother you. I know you're busy.

Very busy guy. Dean, I assume you're busy too. I just took a week of vacation. So I'm going to bang these out. Let's, uh, let's go to, well, the president's trophy curse. Frank doesn't think it's a thing. Except that, uh, well, since 20,

13, it has been a thing. So, you know, if you want to look at NHL as a 120 year old league, then sure, it's not a thing. But if you want to look at, you know, the last decade, it is a thing. With his, he doesn't like the terminology of curse. It's a trend.

Yeah. It's the president's trophy trend of not, not translating to the, again, one team wins. But it is, it is odd that the, I don't know, is that in baseball there's got to be far more success

for the team that has the best record in the regular season. You think within the Dodgers only of one title. Yeah, but I feel like it's got to have happened anyway. Yeah. We'll move. Well, Dean, I was a little because it's been a very prickly show. Boilers are moving on. How could you do this to us? This is dirty. This is

backstabbing. You never told us here in Evanston, pulling this shit again. Now, we've seen you doing before but they're always excited to see you back in Edmonton we're used to work I mean listen we can portray on here the you know the bad blood and this and that how don't you love what the Oilers are doing right I got the call hey it's a big game you want to come up when you heard that late you got a lot of acclaim for taking a shirt off so look what you're doing let's see and I'm around you know I'm hey Oilers

I got nothing on my plate the next couple weeks. That gout cleared up my number. That's good to see. They were having a hell of a good time. I can tell you that. They were very excited up there. See what I did. I layered a bunch of shirts.

Is that right? That's what you did, eh? I have a bunch of shirts, which is why it's looking a little chubby. It's not me. It's the layers. I just assumed it was 30 shirts. Okay. Shirt.

Chirt. Two more teams eliminated since I was last on the show. I mean two more crying Jordans. Let's go to it. Pete DeBoer with the ill-fated AI Playoff. My goodness. Some bad stuff right here.

AI. So good, but there's a lot in there, isn't it? Improve. Who else is on that bench? And then, oh, yeah, the double birds from. Yeah. Yeah. Careful. Someone might screenshot this and send us to our sponsors, eh?

Okay, let's move along. Cup schedule's been announced. Dino, let's go there. That would be petty. People wouldn't operate that way. Who would do that? No one would be. that petty deed. No one.

No one would do it. No one. I don't even know what you're talking about. I don't either. There's your schedule that won't get started until Saturday and it's going to be every other night. Unless there's travel, then you're going to take it extra day. Two in Florida, extra day. Two in Edmonton, extra day. Florida, Extra Day. Eminton, extra day, Florida.

24th of June, if it goes seven, Rhett. It's pretty late. If I'm correct, Florida went 5, 6, 6, 6, Oilers went 5, 7, 6. That's right. It's a conversation, but I don't know what you're, what are you changing? There's how much you can do for what?

The finishing date or the? Yeah, like, well, yeah. You just start sooner. You don't start on October 12th, but they don't like that. But there's a reason they don't start. 100%. It's good for business to start later and with less of the NFL season remaining and more season when college football is gone.

I get it. The league has to make as much money as they can. It doesn't make sense here. It makes sense in a lot of other markets. Longest distance traveled in the cup final, here we are. The Panthers and Oilers usurp top spot from the Canucks and Bruins of 2011. Boy, that wasn't a great ending too, didn't it? Canucks and Bruins?

Are we not in there? No. The thing is, here's, or Tampa. Like, I, I saw this tweet, and here's a chart of previous long distance cup finals. I don't think this is necessarily, it's just some of the longest. throw it back up there. Because if it's not ranked in order, 4396, 393.

Because the flames in Tampa aren't even in there. Well, now we have to figure out how far that is. That doesn't seem to make any sense. I know. It is, if you look at the kilometers of the right column, that is in order.

Boy, that Montreal Maroons, Victoria Cougars series. Woo! Up one. Yeah. They did that on frigging horseback, though. Took a month and a half. Yeah.

First time I saw a lady with a shirt off horseback. I was very excited. That's where I started. I took credit for that. actually Toria. Dallas is offseason some interesting decisions

coming up fellas this is the UFAs for the stars. Dushade was a very good fit there on a low money one year deal if I'm correct Pavalski

ooh not an easy watch one of the Smiths see ya Yanni Hock and Pa Johnny Hock and Pa it might be time to go back to Finland yeah Chris Tanna of note

clearly and Wedge has been a nice little backup for them behind Odinger for a couple years. They had Houdobin injury issues and had to pull out the Wedgwood. It's been good since. Swaygewood. Kristanov. Welcome home. You were throwing water on that.

Are you warming up to the idea or no? Not at all. He's not coming back here. You don't want him to? You don't think he will? I don't think he will. Yeah. I can't imagine.

Again, it makes no sense to me. He has to love it here. And I think he did. Even if he does love it here, why are you doing it if you're conjuring the flames? So that you have a tougher defenseman in Shillington? Although he's not under contract either. That's getting a little long in the tooth, Dean. It's, it again comes back to, if you want to, if he wants to come back and you can sign him and you're thinking in the back,

maybe we can trade him again for a pick at the deadline. Okay, I get it. But to sign him for the purposes of let's be a good team. I don't know. Yeah, I think they've got two top top to four defensemen on their roster. So you're going to go have to get something that looks like a top four defenseman

that you don't already have or you're going to be one of the worst two or three teams in the league, which I'd rather be one of the worst. I would love them to be that. I just don't know that Murray and Craig are there. You're right. I would rather than the worst two,

three teams in league than the seventh worst team in the league. Like, what a... They didn't pick out McDavid by just missing the playoffs. Get that lottery. ball percentage up. Get those bird a lottery balls bouncing. Come on.

And coming up next year, that Hagan, yes. Yeah, the American Hagen, the year after is Gavin McKenna and Medicine Havons is an absolute monster. It's 16. He nearly had 100 points in the Western League. Star, star, star.

That year you've got two first already because you've got Vegas and your own. Vegas is unprotected. This year, you've got your own. If you finish in the top 10 for the draft, that's it. Imagine not having a first rounder next year. Like, hello, fellas asset management 101

move marks from two get another one let's go that's why you can't sign tenev because he'll single-handedly haul you I mean they had tann of for two-thirds of the year here they were never in a playoff spot but I hear what you're saying definitely better with him uh odds of the stanley cup final i send this to jack i'm not sure if he's got it yet or not

but if you're wondering where do the sports books have the oilers and the pantaros there's our pals of pat way oilers even money panthers minus 120 slight favorites, which I would have said something close to a pickum. So yeah, this is not far from that. Interesting. What did you have in your mind?

Did you think Oilers would be favorite? No, I figured it would have to be close. I figured it would have to be close. Home team default to them being the favorites, I suppose. It's really hoping they'd have a lot more rest than the Oilers, but they didn't. Not really, yeah, not really in the end. Go back to Dallas and plant Tuesday.

Florida were 2 and O'n against the Oilers in the regular season, That means a lot. A lot right now. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because Vancouver swept the Oilers, and you know what? The flames swept the Dallas Stars in the season series.

Yeah. They're obviously very close. Yeah. It all comes home to roost. It all comes home to roost. Memorial Cup's been awarded, fellas. Let's tip our cap to the hosts. Sagina spirit.

If that's what they're called. Oh, sorry. We're in overtime. We are late in third. Who knows who's going to go? Essentially, Mexico, against territory rides. Seems like a rip.

No way. At home. the last right they want to feel the heat with somebody now is Sean Donovan's kid on this team did I read that red yep good player a sends draft pick I believe and yeah also Zane Perrick the defenseman Dean Hall incredible he part of that squad that wins as well he might be on the table at nine for the flames would you like a defenseman that piles up points a true number one they can run a power plant.

We'll see if he's that or he's on the board. Well, there you go. Congrats to the spirit. Spirit in the sky. Yep. Good song. Garmin green. Calvary FC out in the island on the weekend to face.

Stink in Pacific fell in a 1-0 hole, but fear not, fellas. Tommy and the boys, they're going to lock this thing down and get a point. He can hit him from here. Palm continues to his run. Gaggle of white shirts. Gaggle. Gamble. Camden trying to cook.

pushing it to the post. It'll come with Varshowski. It's in. And Varshevsky has scored. Devise Roshchewski. And the substitutes. One one. Another draw.

You'd love a win, but down 1-0 in the second half, you'll take that. One win, six draws, one loss. That is a very... It's a lot of draws. Is that tidy? It's a lot of draws. You beat the... the bleeping white caps at BC Place,

but you're drawing all these damn CPL teams. Next action comes up Saturday. They take on Stinking Forge. Jack, what's happening Saturday 3 o'clock at Atco Field? I'm going to the game. You are going to the game. And Dean is also coming to the game. Dean, you're coming to the game. Saturday

of 3. Oh! Whoops, sorry. Well, we'll check in more on that. Hit something there. I don't know what that. Godry, Surge, and 0.2 start to their season, lots of home games this week. How do you like a Wednesday, Friday, Sunday retro? Love it.

Saskatchewan Rattlers in two days, Vancouver Bandits on a Friday at Winsport, and Sunday, the Winnipeg Sea Bears. The Sea bombs? We'll see you next Sunday at 2 p.m. If that's not enough, the Canadian men's national soccer team as friendlies against the Netherlands and France this week. Thursday and Sunday.

The French and the Dutch. Semanufique. A lot of sports. Who needs to talk? Smush. I say cancel the rest of the NHL playoffs. We've seen enough. We're ready for our summer sports. You have lockout years.

You had the Spanish flu in 1919. Wipe this one out. No cup this year. I'm sure Gary would be up for that. Yeah. Why not? A big movie coming out. I don't know if you're going to love this or hate this.

John Daly is going to be, well, it's about him. And Kevin James is playing him. I asked Jack this question. Who's more offended? John Daly or Kevin James? Did you see that 41 days Kevin James did a water fest? Huh? Well, that's not getting in John Daly's shape.

He's got to do 41 Coors lights today. Clearly he's come back to reality. but yeah, I saw somewhere talking about it. 41 days he went on a water fact. I had 41. 41 cores lights. Is that going to soccer is going to be good? How do we feel about Kevin James?

Wasn't Kevin James like a Sean Peyton in a movie? Yes. Is that any good? And also, Paul Blart on at least two or three occasions. I had 41 cores light. That's right. It's a few. John Daly, so.

It's not going to be boring. Hope Kevin can pull it off. In fact, I think it'll have shades of my vacation that I just returned from. I know you guys wanted some footage. Yeah. So me and, oh, yeah, what? Her cousin, we decided to go for a pint.

It starts a keg and then don't turn it off. You can't stop it. This used to be called to Kill the Keg in high school, I believe. Better hurry there. Oh, now. Hey, there we are. Anyway, it's a lot of homes, surprisingly. It's a good pour.

Yeah. Aggressive pace. but that's how you really get things fired up and started. Great, you're welcome to join us next time, with the old beer hunter there. Yeah. Amen. Sweet.

I know people were upset at a lack of real Pinder report material while I was gone, D. They were, yeah. They said, not enough crocodiles. And so I bring you enough crocodiles. Go ahead. Go, yo, yo, yo, go, go, go, go, go, go. Go, go, go, go.

That's a beauty. Back up. Get them right on the stereo. They're like, ow. Ow! Hey. Ow! Ow!

They'll learn. Oh, there is. Right in the snout. Oh. Polipos, once you give them a good whack with a shovel. That's right. That's why you have the shovel on the show. It's like Warner's kids, hey?

Right? Just grab a frying pan or whatever's handy. Dinner will be ready. 10 minute fuck up can you give us a shovel there you go thank you

you like parkour dean I you know what I love watching it and participating you're a big car of her guy yeah yeah well we cut some footage of you zipping around town

while I was gone yeah I just can't get enough I understand the practice and make perfect red but um is this man never made a mistake I was going to say there's only one way to get good at it.

Yeah. That's by doing it over and over again. I think you guys are wrong. I think you have a one and done type of scenario. Okay. Yeah. Maybe you don't. Is that how it works?

Yeah. Repetition, not the key to success. Call it a career. And there again, what's the payoff? I keep talk to my kids. Risk reward. Wait. What is your risk?

and for what upside? Yes, so you get on the Pinder apart for one day of the week. It's really not that big of a deal. You shouldn't be risking it. So you think you can do it. Now, what if you do do it? And what if you don't do it? What if it doesn't work out?

It's a cost-benefit analysis, Dean. I thought about that, Dad. I didn't think you did. You know what your kid has been thinking about? Those boobs? Hot dogs. Oilers. I think.

Oh, you guys. Listen, Jack, like that, shut up. Is this, uh, is this, is this, is this, is this accurate, Dean. Oh, man, this is a good hot dog. Oh, time to get a hot dog. You know what? It might be the other way around. You get the, as soon as I start, it's like, I'm going to need another one.

I need another one. And then by the time I'm done, this is so good. I'm glad I got another one. So I guess to each their own. So the next group, they had some hot dogs involved, but they weren't just going to mail it in and just have hot dogs. They decided to go out and seize the day you're at. Now these young fellows are from San Diego. Spanish

for St. Doug. What were they doing? Well, a lot of things. Let's have a listen. And Diego, they have a lot to accomplish before it starts snowing. Today we're going to be doing the San Diego Nines Challenge. Starting this morning at 3.30 a.m. We did a nine mile run. We just did nine holes

of golf. Now we're about to do nine ski runs. Driving back to San Diego. where we do nine waves, a nine minute ice bath, nine minute sauna, nine innings of a Padres game, go to nine bars, and then during the whole day, we're having nine beers and nine hot dogs. Hopefully you get this all done before the storm rolls at nine o'clock. That's the plan, fingers across.

I've never had the number nine. Would it start with the nine innings of baseball and then just expand from there? or nine holes golf that's another one I can start with yeah yeah yeah and nine miles seems arbitrary nine nine ski runs and waves is arbitrary you you land on nine and then just see if it fits for everything it was probably like we can do golf in the potter's like well hang on though what else could we do yeah the nine the nine miles nine dogs nine beers is a long way it's a long that's a big run man that's nothing to sneeze yeah like 14 and a half clicks there who it's a lot yeah Yeah, yeah.

Well, it gives us an idea for summer programming, man. Can't wait. Can't wait. I don't know where it's ski runs are going to be open, but we'll, we just adapt. We just adapt. It's like nine, uh, minutes at the Strathmore bowl running with the bulls. Like something else, we just figure it out.

Remember that? Yeah. Figure it out. Uh, Dean, you got busted by your wife on the weekend. Yeah. Yeah, you had to go blowing out the back deck there, but you were kind of goofing her. She just doesn't understand. We're on the internet now.

It's about finding those viral moments. Smile, honey. It's about clicks, babe. Babe, that's going to go viral. That's going to get us to Florida. We love a good anthem fail, don't we? Yeah. What about when someone absolutely drills the anthem and just nails it?

Is that as good? Not usually. Not usually. But in this instance, maybe. This guy gets so much ass. Musicians, man. It's not fair. You know what else I can do with these lips, ladies?

bombs nice work orials another thing you got I mean you got to you got to work at it to get good at it unlike parkour as we just found out yeah you just pick it up yeah

did you see this guy that had to zoom into a court call so before we started he heard about him couldn't get to the courthouse and I guess since COVID you can zoom in so he's he's on a zoom call and he's got I believe leave the prosecution there, the judge, and maybe even his own lawyers, but he gets on the call.

He's there. He's made it on time. And they're going to talk about what he's been charged with. The public defender Natalie Kate for Mr. Harris, who should be present in the zoo. Mr. Harris, are you driving? Ashley, I'm pulling into my doctor's office, actually. So, so I'll just give me one second. I'm parking right now. Hey. So you can see the courtroom. You stationary? I'm pulling in right now at the second.

Yes, I am. Come on, Corey. All right. What are we doing? Your Honor, we are respectfully requesting an adjournment in this matter, possibly two or four weeks that the court would allow. So maybe I don't understand something. This is a driving one license suspended? That is correct, Your Honor.

And he was just driving. and he didn't have a license. Oh. That's what the charges, Your Honor, yes. No, I'm looking at his record. He doesn't have a license. He's suspended and he's just driving. That is correct, Your Honor.

Oh. I don't even know why he would do that. So defendant's bond is revoked in this matter. Defendant is to turn himself into the Washington County Jail by 6 p.m. today. Failure to turn himself in will result in bench warrant with no bond. Corey.

Corey can't drive without a license. Corey. Corey. Just one sec. I am pulling into my doctor's art. Just one sec. Yep.

I'm ready to go. Are you an idiot? Yes, I am. What do you want first? The spider or the octopus, Dean? Yep. For definitely, yeah. Well, Father's Day's coming up.

and I know your kids are actively hunting for someone to keep you in good spirits around the house. You get the dogs that are kind of wearing off. You need a new pet. So this is Jimmy. He needs to be cured in his... Some faulty tapperware. Jimmy the tarantula. That's great.

I don't know that you have a tank big enough for an octopus. Otherwise, I'd suggest that they could be great friends too. Yeah, I don't really like either. You don't like octaves. No, I don't really. Okay. Look the size of this guy, rats. That is, yeah, you don't.

Oh, but look, he's friendly. I wouldn't think he's going to be mean. That's an end of your thing. I'll annoy it. Like when you put your feet in the most fish, eat the dead skin off your feet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What we got going here. Little octopus tentacle therapy.

So how's this going to end? You pulled in, or your pals for life? Which one? Can't be either. Oh. Chittery. Friends. Our world.

is just the octopus is looking healthy dean good world look at this come here boy giving him a hug and watch them go away say bye see you tomorrow this guy's an idiotic it's not even worth my time so that brings us to today's mystery box dean you can have dorin the dog or you can open the mystery box to close the mystery mystery here's the thing i've been doing a lot of the mystery box. We did Dorn on the first day and then Pinder's been throwing up the option. I don't even like Dorn as an on the dog. You know, I love dogs. You love dogs. So in the spirit of, you know, keeping things equal and fairness, I'll take the mystery box. Oh dear.

Oh, there's a hot dog, dude. Oh, can get the other one? This guy gets so much ass. Hey, Burton Cummings. Settle down. Cue banger, Dean. There's number one's out. And we're working on,

there it is. Now, I'm calling into question because you change, like camera angles there. So I'm calling BS. I think. Oh, they did change camera angles. It's a good.

So I think he does. Review the tape. Good call, Dean. I think, fairness, he does one. But I'm calling BS on this. So I think he. Separate incidents, perhaps.

Yeah. Then went down on the dog a second time. Good question in the comments. Is this, video from his dating app. Interesting. I don't know where you get this stuff. Well, I'm just happy to back, Dean.

I know people are a little disappointed with the very sportsy nature of your Pinder reports. Yeah, I feel clearly letting people down without this week. And so you're welcome. And we'll see you tomorrow. Red's not done. Yeah. Yeah.

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Your dealership for Life Village Honda located in the Northwest Autoball. So for Betway, we can go back for our picks. we did do our conference final picks. Did you name a both of us? Yeah, Retro, I mean, how did we get here? Well, you can talk about karma, you can talk about bad luck or whatever. One of us picked the Oilers to do this. Thanks, Rhett.

Instead of saying, Oilers suck, you picked him to win the stories. I had to go the opposite of Dean. Yeah, yeah. Opposite Georgia. So that's right. Hey, Jack. we all had Dallas minus Rett? Yeah, we all had Dallas and then,

did we all have Florida? No, we had the Rangers. Who had the Rangers? Who did? You? What? You're on shit. You did.

What? Yes. I don't. Seems odd that I would do that. I know you want to win this, just nothing contest that we have going that. I thought we were all on Florida, but maybe not Jack?

No, I think I took Florida and then you, well, I can't go against Florida, even though I want to go against you, was how that ended. Oh, I know you try to. Sure? Yeah. The Rangers. And you, well, why if you're so, where's the, where's the tape? Yeah, I know. Where's the tape? Where's the tape? Come on, Jack. I'm not 100% confident.

How can we keep score if we don't have? Jack's going to review the tape. We'll have an official score by, what, tomorrow, Jack on the show. Yeah, I was looking back because we didn't do any graphics or anything. We just talked about it. Yeah, you know. So there is an official tape. Red, I think you took the Rangers. Oh!

You wouldn't go against his beloved Panthers, would he? Yeah. I do think you tried to navigate getting both as you are wanting to do. Yeah, I do think that also. Whoever I took, it was the opposite of Dean, because that was the basis of my choosing. Yeah. We can, and we'll have a revisit by the end of the week for our Stanley Cup Pips.

Mm. You'll be some time. I got a whole week to really. I've taken to analyze, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Watch some shifts. Down to it.

I've got to get down to it. I got a betway for some baseball today. We'd love to see it. We'd love to see it. We got the Orioles and the Blue Jays. Vladdy's been quite good, flirting with 300, plus 115 for over one and a half bases. That means a single double, two singles,

walks are not included in that total. Plus 115, a number I like. And it is Gossmann against Rodriguez. I like them both to get six plus strikeouts plus 225. That's a big number. There you go. Betway, with the, you get the Betway up in your phone. Just making sure I just have to check one thing at the end here.

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Did I talk about the oiler fan with the shirt and the boobs? Did we get that in today? John. Because I just, there was a whole lot of stuff here. No, I don't think we did. Oh, okay, because there's a girl in Edmonton that likes lifting her shirt up. What? at the game. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah.

She's very popular. So let this run, Jack, and we'll, uh, it's not off. It's a screen grab. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, Cup final and this and that. It's lots of miles in between. And I was taking shirts off and there's a curse and all. I think we covered it all. I think we got it all. Yeah. Okay. I think we nailed it. Um, what's this week going to be like? Now, right, you're a long ways away from it, but for people who are living in Calgary and surrounded by oiler fans. It's all right. I mean, this is, it's not like a switch just clicked here. Since the Vancouver series, it's been an insufferable level of arrogance and douchebaggery.

And why don't you like us, which really is tone deaf. I would think that a guy like Conroy is pumped to be having an excuse to be out of the province. Yeah. Not have to hide in his house and never leave and be harassed. Go watch Caden Lindstrom do some chinups. Let's go. Get out of there. Yeah.

because that'll tell you exactly what you need to know for who to draft. Yeah, there's a huge correlation between working out at the gym and being good at hockey. They don't go to rinks anymore. They just go to the gym and see you can lift weights well. That's how you scope. I do know that if it were the other way around and the flames were in the final and the oilers weren't, that flames fans wouldn't probably bring it up at all to oiler fans. Oh, I just think, yeah.

I mean, it comes up to territory. It's called being humble, Dean, very humble. Yeah, no question about it. I just wonder, like, are there are there Calgarians that live in Edmonton? Because boy, there's a lot of people that chose to leave Edmonton and decide to move to Calgary that I'm hearing. I don't know.

I don't know. There's a lot of, there's a lot of jerseys and car flags. Yeah. I mean, feel free. If you want to get closer to those games, move your whole family back. I'm okay with that. We could use the housing inventory.

Yeah. Well, I think we've done all we need to do here. How do we feel about the show today? I don't, you know, I don't know how to feel about the friend. segment. It kind of got a little spicy. It's spicy. That's good. Is it? Yep. No one was turning that thing off that way through. I guess.

I like Frank. I don't like bickering with Frank. I love Frank. I don't like his steak on the Reynolds. Yeah. And he's, I do feel he's I do feel he's wrong about that game set. Yeah, I agree. I feel like it was, if you

were scanning or monitoring at all on social media as the game was taking place, consensus. This is, this is terribly boring. Oiler fans were loving it because Vancouver was shit, but just from our entertainment standpoint, it was terrible. The last 10 minutes were great. That does not take you off the hook for 50 unbearable minutes. That's right. That's right. Uh, what are your plans for the rest of the day, Rhett? What are we doing for dinner tonight? What's happening?

There's a bunch of Yahoo's here for this combine that have reached out. We might want to get together, but I've got two steaks sitting in the fridge. I'm going to cook those up. I got an early flight to Miliwake. So I'm not going to do a whole bunch. The good land. Are you actually going to go or just get to the gate and then? I considered options.

Yeah. You know when you read to something and then it gets close and you're like, why did I do that? In the world I want to do right now. That's most everything in life for me. I was going to say that's how he leaves his house. Yeah. That's just.

generally everything when I agree to say. Well, we may have to discuss that. Okay. We've got lots of time this week. There doesn't seem to be a lot going on actually in our main sport of hockey. No, there's nothing to really talk about. Well, I read this is too bad. You're not going to be in Milwaukee for a week, are you?

No, just three days. The Brewers are playing. The Blue Jays are there next Monday. I know. Oh, I could go back. the idioticness of my life instead of taking that week the Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

I took this week and didn't come to count. Now, there's more to it than that, but I could have been there next Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and chose gone to. Would planning have helped that at all? It would have now, on my behalf. This was thrown at me. yeah

and I'm a great adapter I am a great adapter that's what they all say if you're looking for somebody adapter die Dean adapt to die that's what they say that's what you say all the time guys we go to adapt or die

I've been looking for a great adapter do you know I'm tired of you say this all the time we're like enough God all the time and for you Pinder the trip was good it was great yep it's hot and empty down there it's the desert in June

I like the empty part for sure you would yeah it's just hot and empty no traffic no one around do what you want sounds like my soul yeah kind of yeah isn't this your favorite thing to do August in Scottsdale

I do yeah yeah when there's no one around that's what I'm talking about this is a boom move yeah I need to get down there all the restaurants you want to go to No one's there but you. Mexico, all-inclusives, Scottsdale. Right at the front. Yeah.

Wherever we can go where people have chosen not to. It's ideal. That's ideal. Well, buddies. We'll see you tomorrow.