Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - The Yzerplan Is Officially Over 😬 | BB Clips

Episode Date: July 17, 2026

Boomer, Pinder and Rhett react to the shocking news that Steve Yzerman is out as general manager of the Detroit Red Wings after six seasons without a playoff appearance. The guys discuss what this means for the future of the organization, whether a new front office changes the outlook for Dylan Larkin after his trade request, and what the next GM's biggest priorities should be. Is this the fresh start Detroit needed, or does an even bigger shakeup still have to come?Video Link: https://youtu.be/Y-c1rDlpx_I#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #nhlpicks #stanleycup #stanleycupfinal #detroitredwings #redwings CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️BARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Bit of a bombshell coming out of Detroit. Is this a, I jumped or before I got pushed or did you shove? Stevie, why? The Eiser plan looks to be extinct. Yeah, it's in the past in Detroit. Taken out of its misery. Shut down. He's out, but he's still in.

He's going to be a, he's got keys to the city. He's, he's a, he's kind of godlike there. Yeah, the shine might be coming off. a bit, but... Not for the everyday fan. I think the fan will always adore the player, but the fans have had a tough time with the GMs, I have to say. The executive VP and general manager, Steve Eisenman, will no longer do that job, those duties. He will now be a senior advisor to the governor and CEO Chris Ellich, who of course, a son of the owner Mike passed on.

Yeah, this is a... We're firing you in upper management, because whatever you were trying to accomplish is not gone. This is not going well. What do you want to do? I think it was the conversation. What about this? How about you do this? Yeah.

Are you surprised he's sticking around? I am. I don't think he, I think this is a title and he will see him. Cleaned out his office. Yeah. And this is a polite way to say you're fired. But yeah, no, I believe that.

Like, I don't think he's going to be doing anything for them. But I, my, my point being, he's going to go somewhere else and we'll want to work. At some point, yeah. Right. Yeah. So I'm just surprised it wasn't just. Maybe.

I mean, to your point, what's he made? And I don't know because you just talked about our good friend noodles. Yeah. What does he not want to do? Make it. Sit at the beach and relax. So Stevie Y could very well be of the same ilk. And there is an addiction to the NHL.

For lack of a better word, I can't even explain it. But yeah. If you're in the club, you're in the club. But there's also, I'm 60. Yeah. I've done this for 40 years. how old he is like at what point is it enough it was kind of like in columbus when mike babcock's wife told him that he was really good at vacationing and being retired yeah so i'll just go back

to that because you know this coaching staff isn't the line so he's not my expectation sorry would be yeah he works again but if you've made that much money you've had that much success how old are you just got you just basically got fired from your yeah like he's been he's been fired and staying on like You strip it all the way. He strikes me as a, this is a guy who will probably want to work again. I mean, he's,

okay, how's his resume then? And I'm, I'm actually, I'll just, I'll just finish my thought. Sorry. My thought on with Detroit is,

I wonder if it's the Red Wing saying, we'd like to not fire. Yes. Yep. One of the greatest in our franchise history could just, what's exactly what? We'll pay you for six. When you get it,

your next opportunity, by all means, you're free to go. We would just not like to send out a press release where we have fired Steve Steve Eiser. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

the same thing, happened to run Francis. They said, oh, no, you're going to be a senior advisor now. Or you're the president or like just, you're fired up the org. You're not allowed to touch the GM buttons anymore. Yeah, that's exactly. That's what it is. 100%. And if he wants to work again, he will. But to Rhett's point, like, is he going to step into a GM role or does he have to come in as an AGM somewhere else because of how not well this went in Detroit? I would expect he was pushed in in that direction. But I also expect that he was probably like upon open and honest conversation, well, the hell with it. The other thing, like, he came in.

to a huge amount of acclaim. Like he got credited at the time with almost all of the successes the Tampa Bay Lightning had. And when there was tough spots, he somehow made incredible work out of them, i.e. the Marty San Luis trade, I.e., you know, the Sergachev swap, which I think was with Montreal. Like, he did a really good. What happened under his watch in Tampa was phenomenal. So when Detroit got him, it was like, oh, my God.

Like, he've landed one of the most highly prized GMs in the sport. and from that in 2019 to the way he's viewed now, it's been a steep decline in his GM brand, so to speak. And flip side, Breezebois in Tampa looks like, man, maybe he was behind the scenes doing a lot of, and it's always collaborative, but this stock was so high. I think the longer you do that job, the more there's going to be good trades, bad trades,

good signs of the mix bag for sure. It's just too much bad, not enough good in Detroit because. Everybody's also been screwed by the lottery. balls. He hasn't had the benefit of the lottery ball. No. And he did well in the drafts where he fell in the lottery. He just didn't ever move up in the lottery. But when you stand up and say, we need better players and you're eight years into your GM tenure, it's like, well, yeah, that's your job. You're the guy that's supposed to get better players. You've been here almost a decade. Yeah, I don't give him a passing grade at all, but I also. Like, if Connie's here in six

years and they still haven't made the playoffs and there isn't a star and it's like, we need to rebuild the rebuild. That's. That's. kind of what's happened in Detroit. You would hate to see it happen here. You don't want it to happen here. I don't think it's going to happen here. That's what happened there. What is Detroit referred to as?

It's a hockey town. Oh, it's hockey town. Well, hockey town and Motown. And Motor City. Right. All the above? Yeah. Holy.

That's a lot of weight to carry all those names. Yeah. I mean, he started back at the, at the feet of the great Scotty Bowman. He learned for one of the best. And then moved on from Detroit to Tampa Bay was there. for a long time. Started there in 2010-11 and then left

at the end of the 19 seasons. Yeah, he was there for and there for a decade and then much the same in Detroit. That was a bombshell. That was like they did the Steve Eisenman thing to Kenny Holland at that point to get Stevie in. Yeah. And Kenny worked for the league for a little bit

and then went to Edmonton for five years. I think some of the criticism too is like you say, he didn't win the lot of balls. So maybe if you have some of the higher end players instead of Mo Cider or Lucas Raymond or who are there's fine players but they aren't

was how he then went and handled the contracts and the negotiations and some of the things with those players they maybe are at first overall but you got them at five or six or four those are your prized assets you need to like don't don't get too cute or too aggressive

and we're seeing with Verbeek take care of the ones that you need to take care of. If you want to get, you know, if you want to chisel a little bit, that's down the roster, down the, down the line. Don't chisel with your stars. Yeah.

And there's some thought that maybe that was part of it. But I did think of, again, part of the show. I thought of the working man. I know. I thought of the working man yesterday as well. I always think of the working man. You know, people out there.

The, doing it honest, doing an honest, making an honest living, keeping us safe. But the working man's been part of the show. Huh. Phyllis. Red Bill. 50 bucks.

This should have happened in April, not July, but Iserman has gone finally. The next GM cannot be one of his guys in Draper or Cleary. He need a younger guy who isn't out of touch. Iserman is why he became a wings fan, but bad GM hashtag Motor City. 50 bucks. He's been on this for a while.

He told us the wings were going to collapse and fall out of a playoff spot, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Everything the working man feared has come to fruition this year. But I think this is, probably, uh, yeah, he got his, uh, he got his wish. Yeah. And I would, the one thing I would, I don't know that like, certainly Pat Rebeke and Steve Eiserman would be general managers that do things similarly.

That doesn't mean that Draper and Cleary would. They're under studies. But I mean, that would be to suggest, oh, well, Connie learned under Trilliving. So they're going to do things the same way. No, they've gone about things very differently. Is there any way that jealousy plays into Burbik and Eisenman's? approach. You know what I'm saying?

Like Steve Eisenman. Can't believe these guys would be this kind of money. Stud of stud in the NHL making two million. Now I got to pay this guy 15. What the, are we talking? And maybe it's not the numbers, but I think there's an ego piece.

Like when you walk around Detroit and you're known as the captain. Yeah. And then the captain actually on the team is up. And it's like, who's going to be captain? Well, there's no one here that's good enough to be a captain. Because I know what I was. I think there was a lot of friction between Larkin and Isman, two centers, both wearing the sea,

and Isman clearly being like, this isn't the level of a captain that we need to win a cup. And I, and Larkin being like, can we just like put away this nonsense? Like, how are we not better? Like, why am I here 10 years as a Michigan guy? Like we haven't made the plus 10 years. It's like you say, it's so hard to know. Larkin was there his whole career. Isam in the same.

And whether or not it's because they were both. captains. But I would think for Larkin, you get tired of not getting to the playoffs. And if you're sitting there and watching the moves that are being made, it's like, we're not closer. You didn't need to sign Ben Shrutt twice on two bad deals. But this is, this leads into even more of my desires. I have a chip on his shoulder towards Larkin.

And I don't know if I'm wording this correctly. But Aishman was unreal and the wing sucked. for a long time. Like not too, it's very similar to Larkin where they were shit, straight shit. And Eisenman was awesome. And he had to be going, what are we doing here? And then all of a sudden, I think it was when Scottie went there and started coaching.

He got them to buy in to let's win. It might be that as much as the dollars for Isman to sit there across the table and say, so we're not making the playoffs and you want out. well i could have done do you know how long i had to wait do you have the kind of pain that i went through you know how we got i wasn't begging for an i know lease yeah yeah yeah i don't think it's crazy when you sort of listen to the insiders and talk to people around the org that things could have been smoother and better and more amicable between larkin and iserman so the immediate follow-up is does this change anything with dill and larkin or not is the is the horse already out of the barn or

was that the biggest issue was that he didn't trust the well you wonder yeah well i'm lying sorry not to cut you off but i was wrong i thought they missed the playoffs all the time but they did make it they just didn't have much they just yeah and the first few years they didn't i believe it was no he was in pretty i was right away um if you are if you're the detroit redwings and whether it's eyesburn or not you know what the offers are and if the offers are no good for dylan larkin now granted he's given you what four teams to deal with but if the offers are not going to make you better and you're you're in a spot.

We're just going to have to trade this guy because he's not going to play. Well, what are our options? Big picture. If it's a Eisenman, if we can change the GM and have a new kind of lease on life and a new path,

does that maybe bring Dylan in because he's on a good contract? He's one of our best players, if not our best player. We need him. Because if we lose this trade, it could be another four or five years. Now we're talking 20 years, whatever it is, out of the playoffs.

And similarly, if Eiserman was hell bent on getting a hockey trade done that helps this team this year, and another point of view is we need to rebuild it, that might be the end of the line when the owner's like, look, you might think we can be a playoff team next year with a hockey trade, but what you're telling me is available in trade, I don't see it. I'll bet you that's the big. The conversation we're having is probably the one they all had, and this is how they came up with the outlets.

you're not close the plan hasn't turned out how are you going to deal with the lark of thing well that doesn't seem to be good there's enough red flags where it's like well I'm not buying what you're selling anymore I think you've done

an honest effort that's not a tried right there was sure a a lot of people pointing towards Brendan Shanahan as a guy who could come in there now again it's a guy that played for the team and he's had success there so is that good or bad I don't know I would go outside of

I know. If he wants to come in and be a part of a solution, sure. What do you mean part though? Well, I mean, like in Toronto, he was part. Well, part might make you more money. If you're the president of the wings and then you slide a GM underneath, it's a little more modern. I don't know.

Well, he had the Shanna plan. There was the Izer plan and he had the Shanna plan, if you remember. Right. Yeah. Anything with a plan of the end ain't going to work. He'd come in with one of those overhead projectors on a cart like in school. Remember the old? down the whiteboard.

Yeah, okay. So this is, this was my Shanna plan. Yeah, I don't know. But there again, he's not going to come in to be an AGM or a concern.

So I'll come in and run that place. Pronger. Pronger sniffing. Yeah. I wouldn't go outside and get someone. I would say this, at least about Shanahan, you've got a lot of in industry experience.

I don't feel the same way about Chris Pronger right now. Um, who works for the league, but like he doesn't have a decade of watching the inner workings of a club, right? Not to say that everything went swimmingly with Shannon, Toronto didn't, but he also had like 100 point teams for almost a decade.

You know, it's not nothing. It's not nothing. It's not everything. Part of the stink on Shanahan will be because it was Toronto. You did that in Columbus or St. Louis or anywhere else. Toronto while he lived in. Think about dubous. He was tart and feathered and you look at him pissing. Shit, he's actually probably really good

GM. He ran that franchise for 10 years. They made the playoffs and they were okay. He would be at high on a lot of teams. lists. And I think teams have to look past the Toronto thing. If that's a hang up, I don't know that it should be. I don't think it's a hangout. Yeah. Good luck to

the Detroit and the working man and everybody there. I think the reality they probably have arrived at is that this 10 year rebuild needs to be rebuilt. Yeah, this rebuild hasn't. And that's not having an anon. Like it was supposed to be

Terry and Zegras and you know, all these other guys. Samson, like that was going to be, and they looked around and said, shit, like, these are okay players, but this ain't a group. And now it's Seneca and Gochee and Carlson and the big American defender, whose name I always forget, this is at the Olympics, Lecombe, like that and Dostle, like, it was the second attempt that the rebuild, the got Anahm over the hump. Yeah.

And Buffalo is on about three. And Carlson and Seneca were top three picks. Yes, they had to get bad again and get back into the top of the draft. And Detroit has. had that. Yeah, they've had some four, five, sixes. And that isn't really the problem. Like, when you look at what Stevie did, he didn't swing and miss with his top ten picks. His problem was he blew his brains out on bad players in UFA. Oh, that trade lasts.

And the trade wasn't good with Falk. But like Ben Chirot's, like big lumbering D man that you just know can't play well enough. Like, oof, he can't be, like he blew his brains out on some really mediocre bottom of the roster, bottom half of the roster players. And then with guys under team control, he's grinding me for every nickel. I think the biggest message here is that Conroy better get off his ass and not screw this up, right? Like that's what Connie was Lake Georgia, wherever he is in New York on his yacht and motor boat. And he was thinking life is good. Jess, another pinocalado over here.

Stevie gets fires like, wait a minute. I better. I better get to work here. It's message sent Conroy. Not sure. if that's, you only got seven years, Caddy. That's not what you took out. That's not what I got, but it's in the eye of the beholder.

I mean, they've not drafted particularly. Who has? Do it a comparison. I know, I know. It's easy to, I know. You're looking at it. You just think they've missed the playoffs, so you're picking higher. They took Phillips Zadena at 6 in 2018.

That was a big surprise. Mo Cider at 6 is not fine. Phenomenal. Not even okay. He's going to get Norris votes for a long time and did this year. Lucas Raymond at four, very good players. But then kind of nothing, nothing beyond. They had two second, three seconds, and none of those guys have played in 20, but.

Edvinson's an intriguing talent. They got two good goalies in the system and what, COSA and Augustine. Well, Costa's gone. Costa they moved. But point being is like those were assets they could move because they were good draft picks. That was quick how you pivoted on that. Well, he drafted him. That was good.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not in the same. Anyway, Red Wings, have you missed them? Yes. I think the league's better with them. I like Chicago and Detroit in there.

It was Game 82 a couple of years ago where they got screwed by a game going to overtime somewhere else that officially caoed them. But I was excited to see that new building host a playoff game because those are great fans and it was going to be buzzing, not the exact same level as Buffalo this year, but similar where it's like, shit, that's a great hockey market. It's going to be nuts. So if they get in and they just haven't. No, they have not.

Despite the Eiser plan. There's no Eiser plan now. What would yours be? Warner Opoli. Warner Paloza? I don't have to put some time and drinks into figuring out. Rhetography. The ratastrophe?

No, that'd be bad. That's it at the end. That's what they would call it.