Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Trade Targets Ft. Frank Seravalli | FN Barn Burner - March 4th, 2025

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

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A little bit of dough and throw it in the super chat. We then move that money over to the good folks at the youth centers of Calgary here on a Calgary Flames game day where we get our helmets on on a game day in the city of brotherly love. You love this city. I do like Philly. Yeah. Yeah, it is, I don't know why. Because Jack's from Pittsburgh, huge robbery. That's right.

Just Jack. She's got to love Philly. That's part of the deal. Yeah. Jack off. Um, this road trip is probably starting for the flames to feel like a little, it's like, ready to go home. Ready to get back there.

Philly after being at the beach stuff. That first game, you know, big win, Washington. They're all, you know, big swinging dicks, tops in the league. Whoopty-do. Screw you, man. Big win. Told everyone, we got more talent in this room than everyone knows about. Everyone counted us out, huh?

Then they would go on to score one goal in the next three hockey games. There's not powerful. Would you call it punches in the last? the face, like they got punched in the face in Florida? Repeatedly punched in the face because it was three games. Yeah. And now it's Philly. And now you've gone to Philly.

And now you basically have to win this. Yeah, you're not allowed to smile and have fun because this is a no. Must win. Yeah. No. In that room, this is a must win. I mean, for fans or you and I and whatever sort of goals you have for this team, for them, they got to win this one.

Coaches are definitely going to be preaching fellas. It's the only non-contender on the whole trip. fellas. Well, this is a team below us in the standings. Frost and Farabia wound right up. Oh, baby. Yeah, they are champing at the bit. Well, and then on the other side. I don't think he gets wound up. Coos. Or Pelchie? Coos cat is he'll just be telling extra jokes, extra smiles, extra broken English. Let's take a look. Cout. Cat might not play. We talk about, come on, Coos cat's been good. Second line. What are you talking about? The Coos cat's been all right. He's got, you know, three points and five games.

Yeah. Four in his last six. Where are we at with the bet? Is that ended? Where is the bet? He's probably at five goals. I'm cooked. He's only scored once in Philly.

Yeah, I'm cooked. What was it? Spicy out sandwich? That place closed down. Can I pull out like at 365? You can get the early cash out payment? I'd wait if I were you. I don't know.

Any reason to. They'd probably be giving you full freight right now. they know it's over. Three quarters of a chicken. For those who don't know what the hell we're talking about, the bet was now, Kuzmenko was a flame at the time. They sure was.

But you guys made a over-under bet, number of goals this season for Andre Kuzmenko. Dreadful start, right? Yeah. And it was like, okay, well, you know, this is the same guy with all the same skills that scored 39 as a rookie, and it was a half goal of the game with the flames down the stretch.

And yes, he's falling out of favor, but he's just a heater away from getting right back on track. Right. And three months later, he's still a heater away and he's nowhere near on track. Multiple heaters away. And last year on the power play, he kind of made that thing sing near the end of the season. That power play really kind of came alive with him. Yeah, sometimes we need to step back and remember that the last 20 games of a lost season really do fool us all the time.

Judge. Don't get judgey on games that don't matter. Joel Colburn got to 19 goals and every fourth shot was going in. And we convinced ourselves that, you know, Spencer Fu was an NHG. Scheller all kinds of crazy things happened in the last 20 years. Zedaro of Hat tricks. Zaderov Hat tricks. Jankowski four goal games. Careful.

All kinds of weird shit in the last 20 games of lost seasons. Well, let's see what we go to the Bet365 line for this game today. Take a look at now the Flyers, 4-0 and 1 in their last five. Favored. Game one of a seven-game homestand. Oh, wow. That's huge. It is, yeah, season long, obviously.

So they're- They're just getting comfy. You know what they did? They unpack their whole, maybe sometimes you keep a bag sort of kind of packed. Oh, we're home for a couple of them. They impact the whole thing. Suitcases in the closet, right? Yeah, yeah.

So there you see it. They are favored. They are at home. Probably shouldn't be shocking. I was a little surprised, but I didn't know they were playing that well. I mean, there's only three points separating these teams, I think, in the standings. One win. Yeah, it's.

And look, if the flame's losing their last three is not surprising. It's three of the best teams in the league that just played. it's more the fashion of it that feels more demoralizing. How are the flyers doing it? Doing what? Like, there are nights from the bottom? Yeah,

but how, what's, I thought you just said, how close are they, well, here's the thing, three points. So four,

from the dog, they're bad, but then the flames are really good. No one's saying the flames are good. Okay, but then how are the, how are the flyers only three points back of the flames? Is it similar?

Like, it's not gold tending. They're both pretty mid, aren't they? Yeah. that's what I'm getting at it. I think they've got some nice parts, but they're missing a superstar,

and they're not getting the goaltending the flames are. So they're doing it quite differently. I think they can actually score this. Got him working. He's benching his best players and being irritable, and they're talking about trading their captain. I saw a thing.

They had kind of an inside locker room thing, and he was being, actually, it was weird, being very complimentary. He's like, the way you guys played this last game, like he was,

keep this up. This is how we play. This is torts? Who's wearing the torts mask? So yeah, 4.1 in their last five in the five games prior to that, 04 and 1. So it all kind of comes out in the wash. Yeah, it kind of does this sort of thing.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, what I got to connect me leading the way. He was on Team Canada. I don't know that he wowed us there, but he made that team, which is impressive. He's over a point per game. Yeah, he's got 63 and 61, leads a team as well, goals of 22 i like him he's yep flames liked him that draft year too you know what he is he's a

shirt disturber yep and coming off a rough year but they just extended him always every game i think it's tough for everybody to be every game except corey perry he's a he's a jerk every night even when he doesn't you just know dirty dirty d yeah it's like he didn't even play tonight it's still an asshole yeah it's true yeah it's true just like knocks popcorn out of people's hands in the press box they also have a guy named mat vae mishkoff who is the rook of the month. I had a peg this Calder. 10 points in his last six leading the way for rookies and goals, power play goals, second and points. And will not be a Calder finalist

because of how good the competition is this year. You don't think. Nope. Hudson just 10 60 points and Wolf has been exceptional. As ever as a Habs defense. Yeah. Yeah. Like nuts stuff from all three of those. And Celebrini, the numbers are are solid. But the way that an 18 year old is bodying men around and winning puck battles, you don't see that from rookies. It's wild. Does the San Jose factor

in all those eastern people that vote? Do they stay up to watch the sharks? Nope, because he's minus two something to win it and the field's plus two something. Yeah. He's going to win it if it ends today. He's going to have to get hurt to not win the cold. Wolf, you sieve.

Uh, yeah, Wolf's done all he can do. Not enough, Ryan. Not enough. He needs to be better than the best rookie season we've seen since for goalies. Can we remember a better rookie performance? I don't know. Well, Steve Mason won the Calder.

There's been some guys that have won it. Thanks. Three in the 2010s, nothing since. There's been some guys that. No, I just don't know that any of them were the studs. Like, can you name the other two? I can't. I didn't know there was going to be a test.

No, I'm not throwing the test. You did actually challenge him. But did Mason, did Mason turn into anything more than just a guy? Like, I feel like this is different. is really taking a spin. I don't know what I'm, I feel like I'm backed into a corner. Wow.

No one attacked her out for saying Wolf should do more, but you're going to jump on me because I'm saying Wolf's pretty good. But apparently not today. Okay. I just said, Bishkoff is good and you said, not going to be a finalist. Okay.

And I asked about San Jose and you. Great. Okay. Where should we go? What do you want to do? We got the bets. You want to do the bets? You showed you the lines.

What bets are we going to make tonight? Right? You got your bets in? No. no right you got a bet okay i still can't remember my so we on this show know how things work when former players play former teams oh yeah and so here are two bets this is anytime goals for tonight's contest under kuzmenko plus 325 morgan frost plus 375 it feels like one of those hits maybe i'm crazy for us sticking it to the old team goofy kuzmenko scoring against the flames because

of course he would. If you want it to parlay those, because you're a maniac plus 1,800. Oh, all right. Do it? No, yeah. There's other names there. What do you want?

Do you know? No, I'm good. I want Mitch. The flames have lost three in a row. Yeah, but they got a point. The last one, so it's okay. Winless and three. One goal in three.

Yeah. They'd never been shut out three games in a row in their franchise history. that was pretty close. They could have been. They've already beaten Philly once this year. Remember? Home opener?

Yeah. 6.3. 6. Piling them up. That's when they could score four goals. Remember that? Easy, busy. They rallied and scored five or six in Vancouver.

They scored six the next game, Philly at home. And they went to Edmonton and scored four. Who are these maniacs that started five and oh? Yeah. You could score. So, you know, that was, it was, well, the scoring is going to be fine. But the defense and goaltending is going to be the question. It's going to be the question for this team moving forward.

Dan Vladar got yarded early. Nailed it. Again. Yeah. So smart. Yeah. Just crushed it. 80.5 points over under?

Nope. Not hitting it. Can't get close. All of us took the under. It's still possible. They're going to clear the offer. Well, I mean, they're on pace to probably.

Yeah, they'd definitely be on pace, but there's still an outside chance. They'd have to hit some serious skids, which is kind of something they haven't done until the last three. Well, they lose. Oh, yeah, for sure. Lose tonight, I don't have much hopes. It's the making of a skid, yeah. For sure, that's.

And that's why this has to feel like it must win, because you can excuse your way out of losing the three teams you just lost you. They're very, very good teams. They're cup contenders. This is not. And guess who you play on Thursday on your way home? Another cup contender in Dallas. Just down the road there in Dallas.

Yeah, just, you know, what's that state rival in Pennsylvania? Dallas, Texas? Yeah. Just across state lines, right? Yeah. So you hopeful? But you're such a Philippe fan, like, not fan, but lover of the town. Yeah, I love.

Is it a pull of your heartstrings? Who to cheer for? Not really. You don't cheer anyway. You're unbiased. I, yeah, unbiased and kind of don't care. Oh, but it's a five o'clock starts. So that's good, right?

Is it five or five there? What is? Wow. Five. Yeah. Five. He's a fiber. He's a five.

Or that works for you, doesn't it? In some places. Five start tonight. Okay. Uh, they've got three guys on the trade block, which is interesting. I don't know who's all on their team. Who's the trade block? Connect me.

No, they just locked them up and they like him. They're going to keep them for the next probably six, seven years. The guy that everybody wants. Okay. The guy you don't want to trade. The goal or the defenseman, I saw his name. Ristolin. Yeah.

And he's the big right shot first rounder from Buffalo that kind of feels like Zedorov light. Like they never really been what they want. or drafted him for, but he's big, serviceable, less roller coaster than Zedorov, right shot, Couturey and Lottin, their names have been out there, Lottin especially, he's a pending UFA, center, big. Yeah, it's kind of like you had said, they're both kind of mid. A lot of the players on these teams feel kind of mid. It doesn't feel like there is a burgeoning superstar anywhere.

Mishkov, probably, but not this year, because Torts is been smothering him. And you can say Wolf, I guess, is for sure. It falls into that. That's fair. In terms of, you know, high draft picks, although I'm Mishkoff. I mean, they like this Tyson Forster. They got him playing with Noah Kates and Bobby Brink.

Brink was a first rounder. I think the Peltier year. Names I've never heard. Their names. Yeah. They're all for sure. They're young, young players. Okay. Now, there's a good thing. So they have first rounders, and we talked about first rounders yet. Are these good first rounders? I don't think they have a star in there. I think

Mishkov's their star and they got him five, seven. He slid from the out of the top five because of the Russia stuff and a contract of S.K. St. Petersburg. Yeah, because the flyers, they were kind of in that. Because you mentioned those names. They're Muckie Middle. Those, those were all highly touted guys.

Brink was like mid-20s. I don't remember where Kates and Forster were. They took Jet Lechenko in the past draft. That's the thing. There hasn't been enough time for them not to like it. And it was a higher guy too, right? So 13th, Mishkoff at 7. They took Cutter Goce at 5, and he said, I hate Philly.

It's not like me. He wouldn't return his calls, to Breda de Greer, so they got Jamie Drysdale for him. Forrester 23rd overall in 2020. Cam York is a guy that's playing well for them right now. He was a 14th overall. Farreby 14. Nolan Patrick. Ouch.

That's the one. That's the one. If you got Kyle McCar there, Murrah Hayeskin, and you feel a lot differently about this team. Yeah. That's probably what costs. Text all his job. even though it wasn't like it was a off the board pick. It was kind of consensus that he didn't even go at one.

Geez, we'll take him a two for sure. How did that? How? Yeah. Because you can say it was injuries, but it wasn't working out even without the injuries. Before the migraine stuff, yeah. Weird, very weird.

Didn't like pizza. Yeah. Second overall pick. He sure goes at one to New Jersey. Then they take Patrick. And then it's Mero Haskin and Kale McCarr. And to this point, it felt like Elias Pedersen would have been a much better pick as well. Yeah, Rewan, the clock 16 months.

You're like, he goes two after. So who in that top 10 is a star? McCar. Cale McCar. Heskinan. Petterson on that. Is he sure? He's just a really good number two center.

He's their captain. I love him as a player, but he's not going to allow you with the offensive numbers. So who would a good example of that be like the number two center on a championship team? That's where I'd slot him. It's hard when the guy taken forth. overall is already being mentioned in the same breath as the best to ever play the position.

Yeah. Yeah. And last is right there, I see. I can see his name. You can live with it in Dallas because Hayeskin is a franchise player. But yeah,

Kyle McCars, the greatest defenseman, most of us all watching our lives. Yeah. And like digital TV, HD TV. Pockug. So who deserves,

because I mean, Colorado takes him at four. congratulations great job but where was he playing UMass no brooks was the rick bandit brooks is it a brooks they drafted him i thought it was umas geez that's well he went to you mass yeah after that's because you're right taking a guy to the a j there's huge questions about the strength of competition like that's credit the scouts like this guy's amazing yeah he is in the a not the american league I would think that he's the only

A. J.HL player to ever go top five? For sure. I know, yeah, that was kind of... I'm not trying to be. You're not even going to get looked at it. Kyle Turris went in the top five out of the BC League. It happens rarely to junior age. I go that high, but it does happen.

Not like you'd watch Kyle Turris and be like, we've got to go do that again, though. Kind of didn't really pan out. He played a long time. Decent. He was decent. He was, yeah, like a skilled center. I don't know.

So New Jersey, Philly, and to a lesser extent, Dallas, because I think Hayskin and is fine. But if you were going to have one, you're probably taking me car. There's some sleepless nights there. Yeah, I would think for some head scouts or. Yeah, Brooks. Wow, 75 points in 54 games as a 17-year-old. Kale?

Come home. Just come home. Has it got one year left? I think they can extend them next summer. Can you imagine how good the dollar will be? Oh, my gosh. We talked about Seth Jones getting the big pay raise going. Come up here, make that sweet, sweet American money.

Oh, yeah. Pay that horrendous Canadian dollar wherever you go at the tank, at the grocery store. You know what? He can probably get butter any time of the month. He's not waiting for Tuesday. Buy us butter. Probably good. And I would bet the butter is better here than.

in Denver way but you don't want that i mean the dairy is far inferior kale come on home you think kale's drinking dairy he's got nathan mckinan in his sphere i don't know he's he's straight that works straight chewing on kale you think it's soy some soy or some coconut or almond milk something my wife would buy yeah yeah well she should go on tuesday when it's cheaper she probably does i don't know so anyway getting back to the original point the flyers had a lot of those number one picks but they all kind of felt, it's probably unfair, but from Frost to Farabee to you know, Bobby Brink, but

the, okay, here's, and all that. First rounders, but outside of Mishkoff, it doesn't feel like there's a game changer in that. Maybe Luchenko is they like him, but he's 18. Is that why they're where they are and the flames are as well? Because we have a lot of first round guys we mentioned yesterday. And we're,

if you look at where both of these teams the last decade had finished, you'd have a lot of picks between 13 and 25. Remember we would talk to Al Morganty, and he would say there's some similarities between these two. They're never, they rarely bought them right out. Yeah. And so you're superstars. They rarely make any noise in the playoffs.

Whereas the, when did the flyers, it was the first Chicago Cup? Patrick Kane along the ice into the net. Bronger from, yeah, didn't know if he was in or not. I was in Penticton, BC and we were cheering because we knew Duncan Keith was bringing the cup.

Right. Kane from Brian Campbell, was it? Really? Good for him. I don't think Campbell had a lot to do with it. He gave Kane the puck. But, you know, one of the things you say when I'd talk about being bad for a while is, like, you make it sound simple. This is not simple. There is nothing simple about winning a cup.

If there was an easy way to do it, you'd have everyone winning cups all the time. So what you really have to do is look at the rosters that do win cups and say, what are they have in common? And almost all of them have multiple times. five picks that are homegrown. Chicago, for example, you got Taves and King. Pittsburgh, you got Melkin, you got Flurry, you got Crosby. L.A. Kings, okay, a little exception to the road, but you have Drew Dowdy, who I believe was, what, two?

What was Copa Tar? Coppeter was, I think, 11 or something. Or at least you've had one of those guys that has elevated his play to where if you redrafted, that's a top five talent. So you can look at the drafts order. You can just look at the generational guys, but they're superstars. And it's just, you can look at the probabilities.

It's all out there. People have studied the last 30 drafts. The highest percentage chance you're getting superstars, clearly with the first overall pick. The top five has a pretty good hit rate. And then it falls off a cliff for superstars. Now you're talking about stars. And your percentage of an NHLer drops to about 50%

when you get into the end of the first round in the mid-20s. So I'm not saying like here's follow these three easy steps and you're going to win a Stanley Cup. What I am saying is all these cup winners have superstars with very few exceptions. And one of the exceptions would be St. Louis, which is one of the wildest things we'll never see. it again. Last place, January 4th in the NHL, win the cup that year. So there's your outlier. If you want to try to build a Stanley Cup winner with the St. Louis model,

good luck. It's happened once. And all the others have superstars. So you either dominate late in the draft and find a pastor knock in the 20s or a Patrice Bergeron in the second round or Ryan O'Reilly in the second round or like most of the teams that have won most of the cups of the last two decades, you need to draft superstars. Yeah, go to Brooks and find some stars. Sure. That scout's job is to do that. The kids don't have to play in league X or Y.

Their job is to say, what's this guy projected as a 25-year-old man? And they nailed it in Colorado for sure. So then the challenge becomes getting into the top five. Or just understanding that seven significantly better than 13 is better than 20 is better than 20 or something. I would be okay with it. But it's kind of like with this flames team.

Well, if we'd rather have picked three than 13. Yeah. So how do you get three if your goaltending is here? Yeah. And so that's where. And it's like, there's, I,

the way I find intriguing about it is like the teams behind the flames. A lot of them are getting a lot better. Like, I don't think Buffalo is going to be bad the next three years. I don't think Columbus is going to be. If Adams Fs it up now. Like he, yeah,

I agree. Talk about making changes. and stuff, but for me, it's like, you better just, the other thing is too. And I think Rastwistolian is a very good player. Obviously, the jury's out on Owen Power, the years that they managed to hit the number one

spot, even if it's celebrini, even if it's like, it's certainly Bard had much more fanfare. But there wasn't a ton of elation for Owen power. No, it was a bad year. I watched Owen Power

play the other day. A guy? A guy. And you know what? You might be a guy you want to take a stab. There are some defensemen that go high that are just guys. Like Branson's a top five. If you want to follow up.

A good defenseman, but he's not a, not a super. He's not a Norris winner. No. And he went number one. Yeah. But Buffalo again, what the, the guy they're missing is the guy they traded away because they got in a spat with him and wouldn't let him have his surgery and it had gotten toxic at that point.

Jack Eichols is what they're missing. I don't know if he was a leader of men as soon as they wanted them to be. but when you watched him win with the Vegas Golden Knights, he was sensational in that postseason, and he's a star in this league. All these other guys are very good young players you'd like to have, but who's their superstar? Yeah, you traded a star for a group of players.

For Alex Tuck, Peyton Krebs, and a first. And they're going to move Tuck at the deadline, probably because he's all of a sudden up at the end of this year. He's a hurtback. He needs. For Jamal Mayors and Nick Hagman and Matt Stage. But that's, and so I kind of agree with you. I don't think Kevin Adams is.

has a lot of rope there. I think he wants to do stuff, but he's afraid of trading Ikel again because all these good young players are good players. And the last thing you want to do is move Owen power and watch him turn into a, you know, every year,

25 minute a night for a decade and a half guy. It's not that yet. No, he's not. And he's still young. They're afraid of that, right? Who, I mean,

who wears the gold horns on that? Owner. On one? Power? There was, on Eichel. Just how it, it obviously deteriorates.

He was tired of lose and he was maybe immature. A lot of it comes back. They say the in the neck thing. I think they're just fed up with each other. They were looking for a way to break up. It all comes back to ownership for me because that clearly was not an environment to bring an 18 year old star into. And that's when it went sour. Just like Taylor Hall and Edmonton.

They didn't have leaders around them. Like if you have a competitive team, it probably goes really well for Ikel. But they've, they sucked every single year he was there. Of course it didn't go well. There was one plan and only one plan. There's only been one plan in the last 15 years, and that was McDavid. They didn't get McDavid and everything.

They tanked so hard. They had two goalies catch hot streaks. They traded them immediately. It was wild how hard they tanked. And the years they got to pick first. I think Dahlian's a hell of a player. I agree. But you had two number one picks.

And three. I mean, you looked at it. Yeah. Power Dahlene and Eichl. Well, Ickel's two. Oh,

sorry, Eagles, too. Yeah. They bottomed out that. Worst team by him out. Yeah, thank you. So your family. Band base. All right.

We're buying. All right. Let's bottom right out. Let's get some top picks. All right. Yeah. And I still think if you look for the next 10 years, like I think Buffalo is going to have a really good team for a lot of those years.

There's just too much skill not to. And they're going to get the right coach finally. I don't disagree that they've got skill, but it doesn't, it's not. Their skill isn't, I think powers will get better. And Dahlene's good. They're bound to improve. But is their skill level so high that, Why are they going to be?

Just because Here's the problem is that we're all Think that these kids are young. They're not young. Like Tate Thompson is not. I mean, they aren't old. And they might even be the youngest team in the league. But they have a lot of games played.

You know what I mean? Like there's a difference between young. I've got 50 games. Well, power was the 2020 draft, right? It was the COVID year, which screwed everything up because you just didn't know. Like some guys are playing some more years ago. I mean. One of the COVID.

years. If you went back to college instead of come out right away. So anyway, we're not here to talk to you about the Sabres. We're not here to do that. But again, that is the thing when you say pick high. You're like, yeah, but what about the Sabers? Like, well, that was probably the worst run franchise in the league. So don't be that.

Be a well run franchise. They didn't try to be bad, Ryan. Well, did you like their GMs and coaching selections or not? I liked them as people. Did you like them as coaches and GMs? Well, give us the honest report card. Well, does that affect who you draft though? Of course it does.

I mean, now stop. This is where it did get sketched. Did they not have scouts for a while? Wasn't it all video scouting? They had some weird plans. Their front office turned over so many times. I don't know if there was a functional one in there. Like it was a first time GM and then it was a guy that never worked in hockey ops.

And then they're bringing in this coach that's not going to work. And that coach that wasn't qualified. Like it's been a shit show from a manager. They did just do video scouting for a while. So would you call that a really sound well-run organization? No, because you've got to have the eye test, Ryan. You need all the stuff. More information.

I have the eye test. You can't go to Brooks and go, oh, it's 70 points. It's going to be good. I feel like that might be one of the things you would implement, though. We don't need to go. It's all video. Which is AI. Oh, I was all for them.

Why the, would you pay to these guys fly, travel around? This is bullshit. But that's the fear. I know we're off track, but that is the fear when people say. Well, we could break down the Philly Flames Battle Royale rather than have a conversation. that's up to you.

Someone had like a 10-year look at every NHL franchise or like a decade and the Flyers and Flames are like right next to each other at like 16, 17, these teams are the most mid-teams in the entire league. I know people don't like that word, but it's just like the most never good, never bad, middle of the pack, don't have emotions about them if you're another team.

Mid. Boy. Yeah, they took Alex, this is Buffalo, Alex Nealander in 2016. Flop. Surgachev goes at the next pick. Charlie McAvoy, a few picks after that. So, I mean, that anyone can do it.

I get it. They take middle stat at eight. So that's, that's pretty high pick. Got them bowl and Byram. But now they're probably going to move ball and Byram. And then Natchez and Suzuki go a little bit later. That's not a great draft either in fairness to them.

The pick's fine, but not great. It's not Alex Nealander. And Dahlene was the consensus. He's been great. I have no problem with Dillian. Yeah. If he was playing with like a veteran 30 year old, Like if he's playing next to Aaron Eckblad,

you probably think he's one of the best Dian in the game. If you had to do it over again, time machine, knowing now what you know, Brady could chuck, Quinn Hughes, or Rasmus Dahlian at number one. Quinn Hughes asked me one now,

but I could hear arguments for Brady after what we saw him. Yeah, you could debate it depending on what's your... I'd probably put Daly and third in that group in fairness. Yep. And you know what? It's not bad comps because none of those teams are, it's like,

Like, no, those, all those teams, they're their best players. Yeah. Kachuk again. Do you see them? Scores with 30 seconds left or whatever to force overtime. That guy's an animal. Damn. Big for points in the inverse standings last night.

Oh, baby. All right. Well, we should get to it. I want to tell you first about outdoor dental. Didn't you go? Yeah. How to go? Yeah.

I really like they've got the trail mix in the front door. What? Yeah. That gets in your teeth. Different things for everyone. Then you get in. there. So what if?

That's why I go. I eat the trail mix and go sit in the dental chair. I can just leave. Mr. Warner, if he could not eat anything for the next. Excuse me. Can you dig this out?

He's eating the trail mix. Yeah. Outdoor dental, Dr. J. Patel. There he is. Look at him. What a guy. Yeah.

Must have been some kind of welcoming of the homeless or something in there that day. Anyway, he's doing stuff in the community with no needles, no drills, no stress. The soleus are technological advancements in the dental field. I wonder who told Dr. Jay about that. That guy from the baseball MVP, the technical technological stuff.

Right. Technology and stuff. Do you have that one? You know, technology and stuff. Snoring treatments, not just for your dental treatment. I'm just get in there. It's the soft palate in the back of your throat. You tighten that sucker up.

And all of a sudden, you're not snoring at night. You're getting better sleep. You're getting deeper sleep. People around you're sleeping better. You're happier. They're happier. that's a few victories right there. I'm getting some great sleep in the basement, Dean.

I've got to tell you since I went to Dutch shit. Congratulations. It's probably another conversation. But hey, outdoor dot dental is the website. Certainly for your dental, everything to get your family over there. The kids,

I would think are going to love it. Kids are going to love it. I got a little video game room there. I was playing Nintendo Mario 1. The kid drops his phone on his face and breaks his teeth. No problem. No big deal. NBD.

So if you do have, if you have youngsters in the house, and they just, they do not ever want to go to the dentist. They fight you on it. Outdoor dental is probably the way to go. Outdoor.dental.com is the website. Book yourself in. Go see Dr. Jay.

Let's go. We will have Franksera Valley joining us in about 20 minutes, maybe a little less. So we will get to the Pinder Report, a presentation of Village Honda, where they have done it again. They are, it's the million dollar buy-in event. They want some pre-owned vehicles.

If you are looking to trade your vehicle in, Maybe you had a different dealership. Before you do that, get your free appraisal. It's easy to do. Go to village honda.com. It's right there on the website to start things off. They can put in the particulars of your vehicle and let them take care of the rest. Maybe you've got a lease that's sending.

You got to take it back. Stop here first. You don't need to buy theirs for them to buy yours. That's the messaging. They want your pre-owned vehicle and cash within 24 hours. Tough to beat. Village Honda, located in the Northwest Autumn Mall and online. Of course, at Village

Honda. Ryan Pinda. Ryan Pinda. Bring you the Pinder report. Game Day, game day. Dino Helmets on. There's Connor. Zeri. Look at him. He's focused. You know why he's focused, Trent? See the focus in his eyes? There's a lot of focus.

Because he's been demoted to the fourth line. More on that moment. Here in the shit, Zeri. What else are we got to? Well, let's go to to Flames Nation.com. See what's going on. Great piece by Liam. Liam, weighing the pros and cons of Rasmus Anderson, trading them or not at the deadline. And Ryan Pike, look at this.

I need you to pay attention. Flames looking to trade defenseman, Daniel Miro Nanov. I think that's his brother. That doesn't seem like a Pike thing to do. This guy's detail. Writers don't often do the headlines. So the managing editors may. Is that, Josh?

Jack, did you edit, Jack? You know what's funny? I posted a video about this yesterday, and I copied and pasted the headline from Flanes Nation for the title. So it was also wrong. Yeah, you wouldn't have noticed for sure. Can you?

Someone commented it. I noticed. I'm putting you on the spot. Can you go grab what I sent you yesterday around 250 p.m.? It was a little one pager with some key reminders. Right. Yes, I will.

Because I had a parent teacher meeting yesterday. And on the wall, in grade four. They've got, well, there's the alphabet up here, and then there's some math over here and hundreds, thousands. And they had on the wall, they're, there, there. And I said to the teacher, oh, can I take a picture of that? Right.

My 26-year-old producer hasn't figured this out. Yes. And you're working on it in grade four. Yeah. So Jack, if we're saying like, hey, where's the computer? It's over there. How would you spell that one? He doesn't want to do this.

T-H-E-R-E Okay, that's good Okay, good Now if I said, is that, Ryan, is that your jacket? And I'd say,

no, it's Dean's, it's, it's theirs, or it's the Warner's, it's theirs. T-H-E-I-R. Also correct it.

And what if you said, people are pissed off at the Pender Report, they're not happy? They are. It's T-H-E-Y, whatever that is. Posterfy.

Whatever that is. Sorry. Aposophy. All right. Anyway, it's good stuff. You can, you got it. You can spell it however you want. I'm not sure what kind of market there is for Mira Nanov or Miramanov. Yeah, you can.

That's tough sledding for Connie. Hey, we got a D of it. Everyone's looking for a D. Tree, looking for a D. Yeah, if we're being honest, it's, would you like a fourth option on the right side? We'll take a sixth rounder, something like that, right? They just have too many rights. Paul's been good.

Just where are you going to put this guy? He's a depth right side guy. And again, I think that's a very positive way to look at it. Do you think he's an HL? Do you think he'd clear waivers? Yes. I know people in the organization are fearful that he would not clear waivers. Okay, so. Now, maybe they're drinking their own Kool-A.

They don't want to put him on waivers. They could easily have them playing big minutes every night in the A if they thought he could get through waivers. They don't think you'd get through waivers. And maybe they know. Vegas wouldn't put him on waivers last year. They were afraid of losing my waivers. And now they're desperately needing. No, they have other sevens and eights, but they didn't

want to put him on waivers. Yeah. save yourself a million bucks put them on waivers all right what do we got uh that's for you mr edwards saving your money mirananov what else is on the website oh my goodness bobby germany with an earth shaking headline here the flames are a bad team being held up by an elite goalie and a hot skirt the hell happened to bob bob bob bob do you get dumped what's going on bobby

so positive you know what bobby is he living in calgary or vancouver this one because I know Vancouver, you don't see the sun this time. He's back in Vancouver now. See? Yeah. He's grumpy. Gross. We got a flames writer living in Vancouver.

Oh, he's a huge, huge writer. You can write anywhere, eh? You just bring your type writer with him. He loves the flames, man. Bring your typewriter with you. Vancouver? I don't know. He's got work stuff and properties and things.

Properties. I guess at least. I don't know. There's lots of things going on. Vancouver. Not easy. Got to get an email. It's brilliant.

You got to get your new email. West Wildcard, where the flames? They're holding a freaking playoff spot still. It's crazy. We'll have clarity by Friday, D. Don't worry. No, we won't. Fort it out.

Yeah, just by the time this road trip's over. Come on back. We sure won't. We'll have it all laid out for you. They're going to be like within a point of a top 10 pick and a playoff spot, some heinous position where you're like, we have no idea what we're doing. Who's the top 10? Where do they got to get to?

Well, we got that. We're calling it the mid standings. All of a sudden. There it is. Two points out, boys. That's right there. It's right there. Look at the team behind him.

Utah's playing well. St. Louis playing well. Montreal's playing well. Vancouver, you said. Hey, guys. St. Louis, you said.

Look at Philadelphia. It's a big four point. It's a big, it's a big clash tonight. At the Wells Farga. Isn't that crazy how it's right? It's so tight. Because I was trying to tell you in January,

there's only five points difference. That's crazy. You're like, no, that's normal. I'm like, okay, maybe it is. And this is not normal. This is your two points. from a top 10 pitch. It's sure fun to look at.

You're in a playhouse spot and your two points from the top 10. I don't like it though. I like to remember the old days. He used to flip it upside down. He didn't do all this. Well, this is the mid. This isn't the inverse. Because the inverse would be 26 through 32 below.

Yeah, if they fall below that line, then he's turning that sucker. We start singing Tina Turner. It's on. New lines for the flames. Don't know if you're going to like them. Kind of looks like a bunch of third liners blended together once you get from the top line, but maybe that's what this team is.

Hubert O'Codry, Coronado, stay together. they put Fairby with Backland and Coleman where he's been playing and the bottom six shuffle up. Sharon Govich comes back in. Zeri goes to the right side of the fourth line and out comes Klapka. Yeah. I don't like to be rude. Sound unimpressed, but I'm, where's, if I'm playing against him, who am I?

Why is Pott? Go get them, boys. Must win. We'll make him away, ties. Tonight match up. Let's do it. They got this. On the back end, Pahal comes back in, mirror, Nana. God, Hanley's there.

That's right. Joel. Joel, Joe Hanley. Wolf and Net and Erison will go for the Flyers. Also practice today, not just Wolf and Net. Johnny's dad, which we love to see at practice. Hey! Good stuff.

They did a lot of nice things for Johnny at the weekend. Yes. Real nice. Comey was there so he had a good time. Yeah. Very good. Walker and waivers,

right? Are they going to claim them? Walker. I don't think so. I think Walker was given the red carpet treatment, and he soiled himself. For per Mike Goose. Expect the flights to put a claim in on,

on, on doer, excuse me. If they're the only team to do so, they can then assign him to the Wranglers. He's a good wrangler. Get him back to the Wranglers. I think they do like Deer. At the HL, yep.

And they need them at the A. It's been hauled out a bit there. Maybe that's why we're struggling. It's because that's so funny at the Wranglers. This guy's slotted properly. What do we do? We're just focused on the wrong squad. Clabka back down there.

Washington, Ottawa last night, more than just hockey guys. Look at this. It's just two nations capitals. Oh. Big one. Did Trump tweet that? that no he doesn't uh oh it's not a lot of tweet some random he's on his own joker interestingly

named truth uh let's move to what happened in said game oh that's spencer night first this is not that's not that game yet but i had a stutzla thing but right there was a lot that actually happened in that game there was you know mentioned the late time goal from brady and a fight screw you wilson and wilson had a one hell of a game as yes he did there's been some pretty good players. When you think about like Alfredson, Carlson, especially with assists, Havlat, Hosa, that's a franchise record. It's where Hosa's number. Rude. Very rude.

Hosa was awful to play against. Just awful. Tell us about why that it. It couldn't move him and he was fast and skilled and it sucked. He could do everything. Yeah. Did he have it was that trunk? He was that lower ball, that strength. There was some girth to his. Yager-esque trunk. Oddly. Big ass. weird story because the Dug is here. Yes, he is. He brought up, did I bring this up about Radic Bonk in, in Ottawa?

Bonk. No, go ahead. I missed the game when Dug was in Ottawa because I got hit by Radic Bonk, but I don't remember, or the game. You don't remember. It's like, oh, I must hit my head. Really? You got a bunk. I got bonked. Apropos. Yeah, remember what you missed, had to go in the ambulance to the hospital?

I'm like, kind, what? Kind of. It feels like something that should. It seems like that was the right move, though, in hindsight, sending you to the hospital?

Should you remember that sort of? Probably would. Weird one. Doug was drunk. He didn't remember either. At least, no lingering effect. You have to go to the hospital.

Is you okay? Sharp and sharp could be, buddy. C-T-E-E-Spurel. Spencer Knightman has debut with Chicago Blackcox last night, and he was great. Congratulations. 41 saves. Is that AI?

Because that is intense. Look at my eyeballs. Look at my knickers. I'm going to break this puck in half with my stare. I don't think he's zero. He's definitely American and who definitely had Dustin Wolf at his backup for two world juniors. A knight to remember. Eh?

I was going to say that's too word. It doesn't need to be that wordy. Jack, do you get it? We get it. His name. You could have just said. Yeah. Yeah.

they didn't need to put the second night to remember just put night to remember jack that's called a silent k with uh spencer's last name and the g h it makes he he canos that Brian I cano so make me come out of you with a canife uh what else do we got daily face off trade targets guys we're three days away this is wild top 45 targets there is one flame in there dambladar at 41 very quickly the top 10 Lawton Tanev, Brandon. Evans, Riley Smith, Middlestat, Byram, Carson Sussi, Ricky Racks,

and Calpulmerry. These are not names that I'm interested in at all. Other names that are out there, Cousins, Ristolinan, Alexiac, Yonigord, and Ryan Donato was playing well. I think we need to really, I know, consider what we're to accomplish.

Oh, we're on it. Yeah, we're on it. Yeah, we're on it. Yeah, we definitely to pivot. That said. Real stuff. Bowen Byram, Dylan Cousins. If there's a guy, the flame should swing forward the deadline, it's Bowen Byron.

Brett, you with me? Yep. Left shot, young defenseman, 23. I said that last year. I said it's too bad that Colorado wasn't interested in that dud, Lindholm, Lindholm, because we're going to go to Byron. It was not a rental for him. They liked Middlestad. I don't think they do anymore.

His name's also in this. Well, I wasn't really right, but they were wrong. I mean, you were right to like Byron. Yeah. But I don't think Colorado was. interested in a rental farm. There were a lot of concerns about his injuries. Yep.

But there's a lot to like about the player. Not for me, Dean. What if he gets bonked? That was the question. There's a new balked. It's okay. He won't remember it. That's fair.

Now, our boy, Dregs has got a busy Friday. We're not going to have him on the show. I wonder if we could try to get him Thursday. Here's what they're doing. A little twist this year. They're leaning into it. Jack? Leaning into it.

What side are you on, buddy? This is not them. This is someone having fun. Oh, really? Oh. Yeah. It's not really cool. with that. Brad Marshans hurt, boys.

This is a big loss at the trade war show that we're doing. He is giving the finger to his squad. Interesting. This from Fluto. Brad Marshan will not play before the deadline. We can I ask you a question? I don't know who Fluto is. It would be wonderful.

Long time Bruins beatwriter. Okay. That's what I'm curious. Yeah. Yeah, this is a credible Boston source. The best problem. I thought it was just a random person that. No, Fluto has done it for a long time. I actually have a Fluto story that I'll tell you off the air. Excellent. Very good. I have a Jimmy Murphy who works in Boston as well. Story also off the air. Unless you want stories about strip clubs in L.A. on the air, but I don't think we do. Everyone does now. It's better than Jack story.

It sure is. Jack doesn't kiss and tell. Boring. Look what they engraved the other day. Now, if you really, really, really squint, can everyone squint here? my eyes are terrible. If you squint, you still can't see the kichucks on there, Jack. I looked. Isn't that weird?

It's going to hurt. God damn it. I'm torn. You should be torn. Outdoor game was on FX in Canada and actually did big numbers on TV in the States. I had people text me, where do I find this damn outdoor?

Is that today? That's all four nations related. For sure it is. Yeah, because I don't think Columbus is a draw. And Detroit is not flying high right now. I mean, you lean into the Ohio, Michigan thing,

but those are, that's the biggest numbers on ESPN for HL game ages. That's wild. Like a regular season game. Good stuff. Sports hot. Sport is red hot. So hot. We should try and align ourselves.

Maybe just more of that international hockey. More Olympics is, right? Let's say it. Olympi. Yeah. More Olympi. More Olympi. More pie, please.

Mike Bossy was really good. Today is a day that we should remember that because today in 1982 was the fifth year in a row. he scored 50 his first five years in the league this is the player we do not talk about enough when you talk about all-time players mount rushmore's this guy scored 50 goals like it was easy and he did it every year and then he was like i'm good wild he's like my back i've taken enough cross checks i can't do it anymore i'm done if you had an all-health team of guys that if they're healthier in their career it might be a mount rushmore of like lemieux or bossy Tim Kerr.

Tim Kerr. 50 and 50. Well, yeah, he was 55 years. He had the 50 in five seasons. That's just 50. Because it was his record when Wayne went 39 games. Which is insane. Beat his 50 and 50.

Wayne had five to get to 39 that night. That's not going to get beat. Get beaten. Tonight's games. Lots. Tuesday slate. Big slate. Okay.

Let's hunt through. Some good ones. What do we got? No. no canes wings canes be all right good yeah wings are hot canes have some big decisions to make the next year next one

huge can you do you have a huge huge uh no uh winnipeg islanders oof no thank you aisles are selling boys jersey Dallas that's your game of the night quality yeah and of course Pittsburgh Mike Sullivan not yet on the moon he's in Denver tonight jack

last no no are we leaving crosbie there or what I wish we could see the penguins leave cross me there. In your hometown of Pittsburgh, like, that's the blockbuster we need to save Friday. Is it not? A Sid coronation as he's traded to Denver. Seems awfully quiet.

Oh, it's dead silent. That's where you need that. You need that stunner, like the rantman one. Like no one saw this coming. Yeah. Yeah. What about rent? That'll be a big.

That's a brand. It would be a big one. Yeah. Talk about with Frank and mere moments. Let me wrap this thing up. We'll get to it. Ma Manov. Mirananov.

Mirananov. Worst job in the world. We don't have complaints a lot, but this is a way worse job than the one he has. What is it? Well, you're feeding dead mice and snakes. It's pretty easy until it's not. Yeah. You like it.

Boy. This could. Ah, come on. He just kind of scooms it. Another one does the same thing. Too much snake. What do they say? Keep moving.

Rhett, big biker. He's got some new tricks. He's always showing off his new tricks on the bike. This is more of my style, though. Harley. Look at this. You got the curled handlebars. You're a hipster here.

Dicepdinello. Ding. He's got dirt. Wow. Beard of darts. No hands. Show off. You.

This is something I've been working on. We finally nailed it last night. A lot of takes, but we only show the one take so it can go viral, right? Here it is. Ramble. Ramble. Ramble. Oh, it's nothing good.

That's well done. That's peak performance. That is impressive. When you look at athletes, that's on my Mount Rushmore. A couple more left. What animal is this, Jack was wanting? to know because what you and the shoveler were out at that petting zoo that's what's that angrient oh that's oh goddard

jeez what is that a yak it's got to be a yak what's a yak what's a yack that's an ungulate A horned A Scottish Pow I'll send it to you, Jack. Any shirts in the room You're switching to tea, Dean?

Because I know you didn't coffee a lot. You usually get your tea. Oh, I love tea, Ryan. Beads free here and in jail. Beads. She's stinging your sugar there. Beads. Beads?

beans bees be and right you were snowmobiling with your old man is that right see the highland cow or cattle highland candle that is what it is they have kind of a nice little yeah they get some flow fluffy do little gingy and they got some flow yeah how is snowmobiling with you

I always love snowmobiling heart of my shoulder but I can't resist there it is so there you are coming out of the woods good I'll want to take you to get out from this. These people are idiots. These people are idiots. And that's the Pinned Report on a Tuesday. Doug is pissed at you.

He's mad at me? Why don't you have a briar update? Like, we have watched so much curly. Canada was great last. Did you see Canada, Manitola? Doug. Goosh. That was a call.

Goosh. Was it a good? Unbelievable. And Cooey just destroyed for Alberta. There's multiple Alberta. How'd you do? We won. It was our last game of the year.

Now here's the beauty. We showed up with two guys because some dumb ones forgot to show up. So we stole their lead and then beat them. Oh, weird. I don't think that qualifies as a win. It's a DQ. We told them they can take the win. But we know.

We know who scored the points. Why didn't you call Doug? I didn't know Doug was here. You didn't tell me. Doug was here. Doug you lead or you outturn is unbelievable. Is it really? Oh, how's your hack weight?

skip okay we could use a third that's perfect i'll go third you can skip yes skip Doug's not end of sweeping he's not no you don't want to do it no no gosh no yeah barn burner we do have breaking news this morning oh yeah phrege oh oh Trent frederick this is a guy that was gonna move physical bottom six sport can score he's tough wow and red what do you love treeways there it is going through jersey needs some money hearing trent frederick will be traded to edmonton believe this is a threeway new midjurz and so again for another year where crazy us weirdos down their highway we

think they could use some help on the blue line anywhere but forward another forward the same position they gave up the first to get i like adam henry class i like trent frederick i like him a lot I like Trent French better than Adam in brief. Yeah. The other guy. Let's hope they had to give up more than a first. The other guy that fought that's not there anymore. Yeah.

Carrick? Oh, Sam Carrick. That's who it was. I know there's a lot of teams interested in him. The way he played, UFA, Boston's just like we can't be spending if we're bad. This was going to happen. Ebbinton gets him. First or more or less, more or less, over under a first.

Less. Really? Then we should have picked them up. I will say. it's a first because the oilers are going to pick real late and it's a shitty draft year. I'll say less than a first. And because New Jersey's, it might be if they had to eat the money on it, but New Jersey's obviously taking money.

So it's not going to cost Evanton maybe as much as it would otherwise. I think it costs Evanton the same and then you get Jersey gets an extra pick. You might be right. We'll find out. We will. Don't like that at all for the Oilers because I am hoping they flame out in the playoffs. Just if you're new to the show, because everyone here knows that. Yeah, that's a bit of a spoiler, obviously.

Yeah. So, yeah, Frank's going to join us. I'm guessing he's probably doing some digging on this year right now. That would make sense. Yeah, I don't, yeah, it's, do the oilers have their first? Not this year. They traded it to draft Sam O'Reilly or someone who sounds like that at the draft. That's right.

They moved. O'Reilly, which was odd because it's like that kid might be helpful. in three to six years if he pans out. Well, they're not going to play then? You don't need a team in three to six? Come on. Well, you're trying to convince at that point Leon and Connor to stay.

So it could have been a guy that helps him in a cup this year. So this is from the Oilers website. They have made a pair of trades with Boston and New Jersey. A pair. Boston trades Trent Frederick, 50% salary retained to New Jersey

in exchange for unsigned draft choice Peter Houser. New Jersey then trades Trent Frederick, 50% salary retained to Edmonton in exchange for unsigned draft choice Shane La Chance.

Scott's boy. Trade three, Boston trades Max Jones and unsigned draft choice Peter Houser to Edmonton in exchange for Max Warner, St. Louis's second rounder and Edmonton's own fourth rounder.

So there's a lot there. Who had La Chance's rights to begin with? The Oilers, I believe. Okay, that would make some sense. So Edmonton is giving up La Chance. A fourth rounder. A fourth and a second. Well, that looks like St. Louis's second.

But it was held by, owned by Evan. Second and a fourth. And the rights to La Chance. So I don't know if that's more or less than a first, but it wasn't the first. That's for sure. And if Boston's keeping 50 and New Jersey's keeping 50 is...

They get them at a quarter. That's his low. as it can go. You can't eat more than 75% of a salary. Is that a sweetheart deal for the Oilers? If he works out there and they win a cup, it sure is, I'll tell you that. I just need to know, it's like Bob Cole. I remember hearing the Bob Cole. I need to know, how do you? Oh, is it Frank? La chance or La Chance? He just like that's where he are. Yeah. He was in the booth, apparently.

He was in Quebec. Who is Shane La Chance or Le Chance? Is La Chance or La Chance? So there you, yeah, there you go. So Max Jones, Trent Frederick. It doesn't seem. I don't know about these people are. Seems a little late. Feels like a good deal for the orders. You got to know who the chance is.

What's the story here? Yeah. Well, why don't you go? And even if he does develop into a player, it's about Edmonton for right now. Yeah. Yeah. So it's kind of the point I was making about that first rounder they traded last

or summer. So they don't have to give up a first. A second is a second, regardless of whose team it is. It was their. Their pick. It's a second round pick, yeah. Well, here's hoping that it doesn't work out. Yeah, we wish him well in that first round seven game upset to the Kings.

All right. I'll do my round. I'll do my round. So he's 22. Playing at Boston University, drafted by the Oilers. I'm going to tell you about service credit union while you guys do. It's huge. The service big share contest is in full swing.

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the Oilers make. Are there more details or is that? Well, just in terms of Frank has a full deal. It's just worded differently. La Chantz. Three deals. How big's La Chalz? Six, five.

He's a winger. He's playing a BU. Oh, he's 220 pounds. He's 21. Maybe. We'll turn 22 this summer. Drafted win. Last summer.

Oh, sorry. That's not correct in 2021. All right. Round six. So a bit of a project, huge. Oh, just thrown in his body. Captain of Boston University. Leader of men.

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Just again, we don't, we're learning about La Chants. We don't know much about the other prospects. It's a St. Louis pick, but it's still a second. I guess it's Trent Frederick leaving Boston. Like we all kind of like the player. He's got some stink to his game. He plays hard. he was you know what he was he was a good brewing and i feel like he'll be a good oiler uh but is this

what the oilers needed it feels like maybe again they've gone to the forward well when maybe there's some glaring holes they're not glaring there's issues somewhere else yeah so you uh you would have ret played against his old man yeah scott la chance yeah so um but it's interesting yeah yeah you can't have America, Chance. You just take us over, Frank. You got to let us know how to pronounce these things. Well, considering they're, yeah, all from the U.S., I'd say we're pretty good with La Chance.

So, look, here's the interesting part about this deal for the Oilers. One, I think it solves a need. They needed someone with size and a little bit of a different element and someone that could skate. So they bring that in. and now they haven't touched any of their two other avenues to make another deal. One, we don't have a determination yet on a Vanderkane because both the Bruins and the devils retain money, it actually only chews up 500 and some thousand bucks. They had a million dollars in cap space.

So they don't need to go. They didn't touch the LTIR money yet for Kane. And two, if they wanted to and they don't want to do something with Kane, they could still trade a piece off of their roster dollar in, dollar out and make something happen that way. So this hasn't closed off any avenues. And even further than that, there's a thought out there that depending on how long Trent Frederick is out, which is week to week, could he be on LTIR for the rest of the season potentially and then activate him for the playoffs? I think that's a bit of a long shot. But the point is, the oilers made an improvement and kept their powder dry for some

other things, except for the assets that are out the door, the second, the fourth, and the chance. So get us up to speed on Kane, because I know people are saying, oh, he's been hurt and he's going to get healthy at some point, but it gets more interesting than that because he just lost some trade protection to a lower level. He seemingly wants to get some games before the playoffs, and they probably want to game the system and use the LTIR space. Well, I think they would do that if they had a player that they were comfortable in knowing that he would be a willing participant in that. Right.

And there's no bigger wildcard in the NHL than Evander Kane. So I don't think they feel real comfortable about the situation. If they go through this process and trade Evander Kean's LTIR money, what happens if he wakes up on March 27th and he says, you know what? I feel like $5.1 million bucks today, I'm going to play. I want to play. And I'm going to find a doctor, second opinion, whatever it might be, that's going to clear me to play.

Yeah. Well, if the Oilers went out and spent that money, then now what? You've got to make a trade post-trade deadline and attach first round picks and trade just for math's sake, Ryan Nugent Hopkins off of your team just because of Ander Cain has woken up and decided that he's going to push your buttons today and he wants to play. Sounds a good team guy. Sounds like a guy that's been around out of Buffalo, Winnipeg and San Jose. But we should use it. We could use.

Right. And so if you're going to move Kane, which we're sort of circling around that being a potential, he's owed over five for one more year. Is that an asset you get something back for? Is that something you have to staple an asset two to get rid of? It's an asset given what everyone knows what you want to do. You have to staple an asset two in order to move,

which again just further complicates things for the oilers. Do you really want to pay to move him when if he does come back, whether it's regular season or playoffs, the guy could actually be a huge difference maker for you and exactly what you need if you're the oilers on the ice. Or injured the first game back. Yeah, it's a wild card, isn't it? This doesn't sound managed well.

Like, going back to the off season. Well, and did, you know, they're not. We need a guy that can skate and has size. That was Holloway. That was Holloway. That's a guy that can skate and have size. Let's get Skinner. Makes no sense.

And I'm happy for it. Go oil. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. You get some breaking news, Frank? What are you looking at here? Yeah, so the Montreal Canadians have agreed with Jake Evans on a four-year extension. That takes the number four player off of my trade targets board.

Four times $2.85 million the team has just announced. Four times two point a five. Look at Frank. Go is amazing. That's a boy, Frankie. Boy. I didn't realize that, uh, that Frederick was injured. Obviously, I didn't know he was going to be traded today either, but, um,

with, I mean, that's, it's another guy. It's not as much in terms of, of salary saving, but you can LTIR this guy. Well, you wouldn't have eaten all that salary if you're just going to LTIR them, would you have? I don't know. Maybe you had to to get in. It's, with Kane situation is confusing. They have to leave themselves some wiggle room to get some other deals done, right? Yeah. Because if you, if you don't get the salary and then all of a sudden a goalie deal.

I mean, what goalies, is there a goalie deal for the oilers to make out there? It seems like John Gibson's name has kind of risen to the top of that list. And I apologize because I know you're. No, I mean, look, I don't see John Gibson as a fit anywhere. One, I think there's a super limited market and he makes too much. And for whatever reason, the ducks,

this is why he's still there, have been hell bent on thinking they're going to get something in return for it. I don't see it. I certainly don't, for all the reasons we just talked about in Edmonton, I definitely don't see it there. The only other team I think that's somewhat interested in a goalie is Carolina and only for cheap.

Like they don't spend on a goalie as a free agent. They're certainly not going to pay assets and then take on this cap hit from Anaheim in order to do it. So I don't even have John Gibson on my trade board because I just don't think he's an authentic candidate to move. The same reason why I took off Ivan Proverov and Columbus with their playoff push and go through like there's some guys that just don't make any sense. Looking at your trade board, you've got Brock Nelson at number one. He's 33 pending UFA. Winnipeg has been tied to this guy. It seems like he also feels like the kind of guy that

Winnipeg goes for every year and it doesn't get them over the hump, whether it's Dasney, Monaghan, Tofoli, the older, center. Yeah. Tall center with prematurely graying hair. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Um, you feel bad for him. He's been attacked. Suddenly people have been doing the, instead of me sized up next to Sydney Crosby and these guys are the same age, it has been Brock Nelson. He's getting politely compensated for that pain.

I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unlike me. Yeah. What is Brock Nelson? I was going to say, if he's number one on your trade.

I'm guessing the factors and the elements that you put into putting him there is the potential impact he could have for the team that acquires him. What's he got left at 33 years of age? And what does it take to get this guy out of New York? I think he's got a lot left. I was very pleasantly surprised with Brock Nelson's play. I know you can look at the lack of points at Four Nations face off. But if you go back and watch that championship game again, third period and OT gave them massive minutes in tough matchups and really held up. his end of the bargain well.

So I was impressed with Brock Nelson. I think he's the premier rental center available. He's, again, you might say, what does he have left in the tank? I went and did a deep dive on his game. I watched every shift that he's played this year so far at the time I wrote the story in January. And this is a guy that his numbers have plummeted, but it's because the Islander's power play sucks. it's not because he's playing any different or doing anything different. Kyle Palmerry's taking the same hit on his overall numbers.

Watch the games, watch the even strength production. He's doing the same thing that he's always done in his whole career, but his numbers are down 20%, not because he's 33, turning 34. It's because the Islanders can't score a goal to save their lives on the power play and their special teams as a whole stink. So I think he's an very attractive second-line center option. and I think he's a tremendous fit in Winnipeg because the big thing of all the names that you just mentioned, it's not that they struggle to acquire these guys, it's that they struggle to keep them.

They come in and then they're out because they don't want to resign. I think Nelson is a unique candidate because I've made this point a few times. War Road, Minnesota is closer to Winnipeg than it is to St. Paul where the wild play. if you're going to have an opportunity to sign a guy like that with a team that's in the contending mix, close to home is a good bet. And so with the Islanders, Nelson, it looks like there's a lot of teams for them to pass. Tough loss to what the Rangers, I want to say last night or two nights ago. But Paul Mary's another UFA.

You got him in your top 10. It sounds like, you know, it's going to be the summer. They got to decide whether they want to keep Noah Dobson long term or not. Where are you at on the Islanders? Because they're holding a couple of your chips in the top 10. where I'm at on the islanders is make the deal. If Brock Nelson is a New York Islander on Saturday morning when he wakes up, I'm not exaggerating when I say this.

Lou Lamarillo should be fired on the spot. You don't need to come to work on Saturday. It's malfeasance and negligence keeping this guy. If you want to re-sign him so bad, wait till July 1st. Get what you can for him and bring him back. 22 games or whatever it is in another team's uniform isn't going to make or break him, but not having those assets in a lost year for the Islanders with a bleak future and not enough star power, high-end skill or difference makers.

The Islanders are pretending if they think that signing two 33-year-old pending UFAs is going to help them moving forward, absolutely pretending. It's a, it's, there's some gray beards. Big time. Literally and figuratively. and it's an aging core, and it has been for a while. Number six, number seven, Casey Middlestat at six, Bowen, Byram at seven.

Oddly, they were traded for one another. Middlestat 26, Byram 23. Buffalo, not a playoff team. Colorado is. I guess I'm just curious, is Colorado, are they content with their depth at center that they would move on from Middlestat? What do they need in a middle stat deal?

And for Buffalo, why why are we moving bull in byrum i suppose well start with byram because it's the same reason why j jay petrka and dylan cousins and a few other guys are on our list i don't think anyone's happy there and this has gone on a long time now 14 straight years without the playoffs and really no path forward to get there and look byrum they had an opportunity after trading for him to sign him to a longer term deal last summer. When that didn't happen, certainly, you know, perked up my eyebrows to think, okay, what, what's the game plan here? Why hasn't he agreed to a longer term deal if he was such a good fit for your team? So teams have been calling. They've been

asking. And in Colorado, these two players traded for each other. It hasn't been a perfect fit for middle stat. They really, I think, have been perplexed at his lack of consistency. He hasn't shown the high-end offensive upside that they thought they might be able to unlock. And for teams that are interested, he's got some cost certainty at five plus million dollars for the next couple of seasons that there's been enough teams that at his age still think that they can get there and do that. So he hasn't been an ideal to see candidate. I wouldn't be shocked to see Colorado hang on to him.

Same thing with Byrum. Wait until the summer. There's no gun to your head to make a deal with these guys right now. but they're certainly on teams radar and teams are reacting to it. And so to follow up on Boomsing, can they win a cop with him? Is there too C? I think they could. I mean, so much of it is going to hinge on McKinnon and that line and how it produces.

They've been longing for more depth. Colorado, to me, took a step in the right direction, bringing in Lindgren, but their defense still needs a lot of work. Josh Manson has been banged up. He hasn't played well when he's been in the lineup. And if they can kind of move off from, the Molinskies and the Keaton Middleton's and the guys on their back end that really have, I think, in a lot of ways, hurt this team this season.

They're going to be better off. It's not a half to trade middle stat. It's just a can you get a better fit? And it's going to always be difficult to do that in season. We kicked it around yesterday. There was, it was something you had retweeted the flames maybe sniffing around Brandon Carlo out of Boston, who are looking like they're sellers right now.

I guess thoughts on the player. And is that a fit that makes sense for the flame? Some think that it does and others are skeptical. I think it makes sense. And is he a fit? Of course. I think anyone that defends the way that he does, I think, and it's a very reasonable cap hit.

He's a giant of a man, someone that has played in really competitive moments and been a big part of this Bruins team for the last while as one of the longer tenured guys. I think from Boston's perspective, they're open to a lot of different things because they have overspent and they have a lot committed to their defense

and they're trying to find different avenues to create new flexibility, that there's been enough interest from teams that, hey, make us an offer, make our team better, give us some value back in return and provide us with that flexibility that I think would certainly be intriguing.

Carlo isn't, you know, he's not one of those guys that I scream or I think screams to me when thinking of Calgary that he fits their age schemes, so to speak, which is what you've heard Craig Conroy talk about so frequently. But, I mean, I think there's a real clear need for the flames on their defense. The fact that they've gotten what they've gotten or I guess have gotten to this point and are in the playoff mix and Dustin Wolf has played as well as he has with the third pair that they continue to trot out. I think to me is a pretty fascinating story. And so what would Boston want? Because if you're telling me they're selling, they probably want young assets, that's where I have a tough time with this one.

Yeah, I'm with you. It doesn't feel like it's the right time in your life cycle to be giving up, let's say a first or a young prospect. Those are the things you're trying to collect right now if you're correct, I agree with you.

I would say that for this particular player, you wouldn't want to be giving up a ton of futures. Is there a roster player that Boston's interested in? And if not, go to the next guy on your list. It's the kind of thing with a few of these three. We've talked about Dylan Cousins. The Sabres would be wanting what the flames are probably loath to give up,

which would be either high draft picks or young potential top line players. And you could argue whether the flames have that or not. I think it was last week. I'm trying to catch today's Tuesday. Vancouver reportedly offering Brock Bessar a contract extension to which he was, I'm going to wait, I'm going to hold off. Does that put Besser in the mix? I know you've got him at 12.

But they're still kind of right there as we get closer to deadline day. He's a little bit of Vandalay industries right now, importer exporter, like could be both. Importer, exporter of fine latex goods. Yeah. But here's the deal.

And when I say this, it always sounds like, hey, congratulations, buddy, you just outlined all of the options. So he wants to be a Vancouver Canuck. And he's a little bit,

bothered and perturbed that it's gone on this long and that they essentially dared him this season. Hey, you scored 40 last year. Congratulations. But we want to see if you can actually do that again. And he's on track for 28. He's missed seven games. And it's actually a slight tick above his career average. So they presented earlier this year a five times eight offer. And 40 million bucks is certainly nothing to sneeze at. But he believes that with the cap and his camp, leaves that with the cap going up, he's in a good spot to cash in with potentially more years on the open market, six or a seven year deal. At the same time, the Canucks are in this conundrum where they're going, should we stretch? Like the $8 million isn't the problem because he's already

making $6.65. It's not a huge jump from $6.65 to $8. But are we comfortable giving the sixth their seventh year. That's what is the pinch between their shoulder blades. And they're trying to figure that out. They're going to make their best offer tomorrow or today or whatever it is this week before the deadline. And if they can't, and it's a hard no, do the Canucks care about this playoff chase? Or is it more intriguing to them to get the value of Brock Besser? Could they kind of keep him for the playoff chase and then revisit those talks again as you get closer to free agency for a guy that I think in the end really doesn't want to leave but the longer this has gone on is like well not only have you not necessarily treated me that well in terms of these offers and the negotiation

but it's also been a circus around here this year with Miller and Pedersen and by the way what happens to Rick Talkett in his future that I think there's a lot to consider on both sides. Besser has just kind of sat back and it said hey I'm good either. their way. Either I'm getting six or seven years on the market at that number, or you can pay me here to stay. Yeah, it feels like a real major dice roll for me. If Jim Rutherford's going to walk him past Friday, because look, why isn't he scoring a ton of this year? Well, how have the center's been there? Like, you traded J.T. Miller. Lewis Pedersen's been brutal. He's not a perfect player, but he does what people pay for in this league. And if he's looking around, it's kind of looking like smoldering rubble right now with

with what's going on in the room and the departure of guys, statuses all of a sudden of Quinn Hughes and Thatcher Demko coming up. Like I wouldn't walk this guy past Friday. I'd go get some assets. But let me look at this from another perspective for the exact reason you mentioned, which is, okay, Miller's out the door. We don't know what's happening with Pedersen. If the Canucks have any plans to be a competitive team,

who are you going to replace Besser with to score you 28 or 30 goals next season? Yeah. Where's that guy going to come from? Yeah, the whole thing falls apart of Patterson's not a good player. That's, that's really the, what do you mean if he's not a good player? He hasn't been a good player for 15 months now. Yeah, but now that you've traded JT Miller, you can't be a playoff team, a win away from knocking off the Oilers, right? Like, it's now even more important that that's, that I would, that would lend me to exactly

what I'm saying in my argument, which is it, you've got to keep better. Give him the sixth or seventh year, who cares? Let the next regime figure that part out. $8 million a year is in the ballpark. If you have any designs on being competitive, you're further away with Bess or gone. Same conversation with Brad Marchand in Boston. You could get the value if you want,

but the Bruins don't punt on seasons. How are you going to get back to being a good team, a team that's on the rails, if Brad Marchand, not just your captain, but a pivotal, you know, guy driving the bus for your team isn't part of it. is Marchand kind of what's his status now that he's on the IR? Yeah.

And all of a sudden there's how many weeks left in the season? Like we're yeah he's 17's the last day of the year. That's what's five and a half six weeks out? He's a candidate to be traded for sure. I don't think the injury necessarily halts that. I think it just adds another layer of complication to it. But I'd imagine not all that dissimilar to Besser. The Bruins are probably making their best in final like today

or tomorrow to say, here's the situation. You either want it and you're going to take the relative hometown discount or, if not, be that as it may and prepare potentially that you could be on the move. If I'm Brad Marchion, I don't think that's a very good team. I don't love the way they've operated in the last off season. Lindholm, not a good signing. Were you paying attention? Zedora, not a good signing.

Where are you paying attention? Swayman. Oh, you're really important goalie. You let that go as long as it did. It's not a max term thing. Like he's deep into his 30s here. He's going to get more money and he can go find a better team. Like it's really,

he has to really want to be a one jersey player to stay there, doesn't he? I don't know. I mean, again, let me take the alternative view from Pinder, which I feel like I live my life on the alternative side of the planet. It's probably good.

Love you, buddy. I would say, Swamen had a bad year. Is he likely to do that again based on his career numbers? Probably not. They're not a perfect team. Obviously a flawed one.

Don't have a center. But what if Marshan stays and you actually find a way to address that this summer? Yeah. Or he goes to do that. You mean to tell me that the Bruins can't bounce back and be a playoff team next year? No, I think if he wants more ring, it's not happening there. Well, okay, but you could get traded to Edmonton and it's not going to happen there either. Like, who knows?

You know, maybe. But I'm looking at it going, I'd rather stay here, a place where I'm comfortable. for relatively the same amount of money and see if I can get this team back on the rails. Everyone has different motivation, right, at that point of your life? He's also already won a cup. Yeah. Yeah.

And that sort of leads us into the one we all want, which is Sid, but. Oh, my God. I'm hanging up. I can't even do this. Storybook. Jack, Jack's pushing this. He's a penguin's guy. He's giving his blessing.

He says he'd allow it. And it only. Penguins. That's it. We should just take our trade proposals from Jack now. Yeah. Just kind of the last one for me. I was going to ask about Vegas,

but how do you ever know? It just feels like they're always the shark lurking in the shallow water waiting to attack. But who are you keeping an eye on? Or what are you hearing as far as teams? Watch for Team X on Friday to maybe make a splash. I can never rule out the Golden Knights from doing something wild. They're in on every shiny toy and object.

in the league. And it's part of the reason which makes them so compelling and a team you can never take your eye off of. I'll say this, though, as the Los Angeles Kings are staring down a potential fourth consecutive first round matchup, giving Calgary Flames nightmares of what it was like to go up against the Oilers in the 80s, just trying to get out of your own damn division. That I look at L.A. as like, hey, if Miko Rantan is actually on the move, if you're L.A., you've got to move heaven and earth, even knowing that he might not commit to you and might not resign there,

Rob Blake's teams have won exactly zero playoff rounds since he's been the GM over eight years. I know there was a rebuild involved there, but you've got Kopitar having an all-world season, you've got your center depth, doubt he's back. You think you solved a little bit of your goaltending issues. You either got a breakthrough or pack it in.

And I would look long and hard if Ranton is available at L.A. being the team that might emerge from the rubble to get him. Love that. Nice. Frank, we'll be watching on Friday. I appreciate you getting on here with us today. I know we couldn't hear your phone going crazy as it must on a week like this, but we appreciate you.

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job. It was me. Fair enough. Does that me that piss them off? No, we just blamed you. Yeah, I don't know. Marchand just fascinates me. And it's almost like, just being a fan of all this in the sense like we love trades right what's not sexy is Sydney Crosby playing the last 20 games of a meaningless season and Brad Marchand winding it down half

injured for a bad Bruins team this year like more exciting is seeing those guys move so I'm not suggesting of this stuff is super plausible but would be great more entertaining like if Scott Lotton gets moved he's the number two guy on the board like you did let's tranquilize you did list some

guys and it was well didn't he say Jake Evans was number four yeah that tells the story there so that so what we what we like more than that is the Miko Ranton is out of the blue superstar moving right boy yeah boy you know if Mario Ferraro moves does do like we want big players moving there would be some there's there's got to be

some long quiet time for Miko Ranton in the last week when you have a nine figure offer sitting there also the first time he's had three home games in a row this week so he's actually going to be able to hang out a bit in the city which if you're going to commit for you know the next eight years you want to know what it's like he's in Montreal Boston for two weeks for four nations they're on the road a fair amount so what do you do i mean what smoking

is that kind of isn't uh like raleigh isn't that like tobacco country out there NASCAR love NASCAR naskolnska hall's in charlotte and turning left you know what else is big what's big it's coming up we didn't hear about it in the Pinner report, but we will. Arch Madden. That's right. You like college basketball? Yeah.

You like college basketball? Huge. Well, he's finished. They love college basketball in Finland. And you're close there, I would think. Hey, that'd be quick hopper back over to Finland. No. Crean Spro's a bad airport to get out of.

Yeah, you're going to have to go to New York. He's got enough to Denver. He's got enough dough. He can just PJ. I think my feel on Rattonan is that they're going to make him a very fair deal. but he is such a rare guy to ever get to free agency and the cap is growing so much that that eighth year ain't going to move the needle a ton

because he'll just get more from a team in a better market that he wants to go to this summer. So if he says, I'm not ready to commit to you, I'll hang out with you, I'll give you my best for the playoffs. And if I like it and we win a lot, maybe I sign. But then the ball is now in Carolina's court. Are we willing to walk this guy to UFC? or do we eat half and turn them into a huge pile?

Because that's about the best rental you could ever get for 2.7 million. I want him traded. Because the fun part of it for us. If he goes to L.A., that's just incredible drama. That's the thing is, it's. I don't think he wants to sign in Carolina. Usually you have a fair, I mean, I know you go there. It's new.

You're not sure. They make the playoffs. Aho's his buddy. They're both finished. But yeah, it's not a top 10 market. Carolina is a nice city and people like it. but like I'll use comedy because he always comes up. Yeah.

My Commodore does not live in Carolina. No. You want a cup there. Could stay there and be here. Right? Like I don't care and everyone's got their own personal reasons, but it's not for everyone. The owner is,

there was an agent's poll that just finished up in the athletic that was published, I want to say last week, and it ranked buildings, like facilities, management teams, ownership, markets, Carolina scored really low on the owner. And that's agents. So agents are only hearing that from their players and through their negotiations with teams.

I think they're a really good team. They win a cup with Rantanin. But I also think if you're Miko Rantan, what team isn't going to make space for you this summer? Well, and isn't going to be... Like, if you need 13, what team won't do that for you? Because you can pick your market. I think they all will.

They'll move having an earth to do it. it would be interesting as you see what teams would be in enough of a cap pinch where they wouldn't go to Rantman and say, what do you need? Well, and if you are, you trade a guy. Like if Edmonton wants them, they can fit him in. It's just like you trade Bouchard. That's that. That's a guy that was probably going to make 9 to 11.

They sure do. They do. Yeah. Yeah, they really do. No, but I just believe, like even Toronto, like, oh, they're so capped out. Well, the cap's growing. Martin's money's up. Money's up. Tavares is making 11. He'll go down to some hometown discount if he's there. Every team will make room for Miko Randan. Tucker's might go to a million.

bucks if they're why not i mean joe thornton did and patrick marlowe played on the cheap there and when simmons came home and played for free nick felino did it he's made 77 million dollars or something like that from the leaves he'll stay and play for cheap right he'll make a million bucks a year if they win a cup in toronto he's part of it he's gonna make a million bucks here just being he's got he's got the pajamas walking around this walking around the rink these bed sheets if there's any appetite to keep him you would think he's staying yes i'm i mean i'm all with this with this team even a team like the rangers like they'll play hardball and put someone in a tough spot to make like randy can go anywhere and that's why team like here i'm certainly not

doing the research but where l.A should be going great appeal of l a right like if you've got a chance to get in front of it and become the and have a player and so the taxes aren't great but if it's a winning team and you got the beach that's tough weather beach should beech Weather's unreal. Lifestyle. Like all the guys that played in L.A., where do they live now? L.A.

Right? It's Rob Blake. It's Nelson Everson. It's Glenn Murray. They're all there still. They all live in L.A. They played other places. They went to L.A. They stayed there. That's a great city to live. Yeah. Nelson Emerson?

Yeah. Played in Winnipeg. Didn't live there and stay. Robitize? He's still in L.A.? I bet she is. Lucky. Wayne is Wayne is? Yeah, I think Wayne is.

Yeah. Viena Nova, it is Calgary's lab grown diamonds specialist. It's the only store in town that specializes exclusively in lab grown diamonds. And I know we got through Christmas and you got through Valentine's Day. I think there's probably a mother's day somewhere. But here's the thing. There's probably some birthday anniversary, something coming up. It's always, it just should always be on your radar that Vina Nova is the place to get it done.

Because lab grown diamonds, they can be as much, I mean, we're talking 80% in some cases, the savings off of the dirty, dirty, dirty, lined diamonds that they dig out of the ground gross. Ew. Ew. Largest selection of loose lab grown diamonds. You want to get something custom made? You want to go in and say, hey, here's what?

I just want to buy a bunch of diamonds. Yeah, I just want to have a pocketful so I could just kind of at lunch having wings to this. Just kind of. I bet you if you're planning, I'll get married soon. This is kind of the time of year you'd be. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably one of those things. I recommending that necessarily, but if you happen to do that.

lab grown diamond same chemical chemical composition and crystal structure as an earth mine diamond hard to believe we're still doing that doesn't make sense dean it takes a long time too how deep so lost so deep you have this lab right here you're doing what in what country they're like warlords there you got some joker like jack out there with his just sweating all over these things your pick pick axe what he used to stealers steelers doer egg and his pick yeah you don't want it you want vina nova calgary's lab grown diamond specialist in market mall so much parking vina nova.com so much flames game day they've got the flyers tonight they're in philly both teams kind of teetering there mid right sort of right there flyers unfortunately because east is better nowhere in your playoffs

flames in a place but stunning let's take a look at our bet 365 bets we looked at it a little bit earlier I guess, well, I mean, kind of did look at it earlier. Playing the old team revenge spot. The Cozmanco goal plus 325. For us plus 375. Pelche plus 700. Ooh. She's playing on the fourth line.

Yeah, he's had less success. Pelchay four games is a flyer. He's got one helper. He's playing all them for some reason. Like the immigration stuff was a nightmare for these two. Five games for Cozmanco. Pelche missed another four since. Yeah.

Cozmanco, one goal. three assists in his last six games. It's not terrible. He's maybe starting to acclimatize and fit in. He was on Frank's list at the very end, too. He was a guy they might flip if he could get hot. Sure. Oh, kind of the flames idea all year and you never got hot. No, no.

Because Menkov, your boy. There you go. So we'll have this show tomorrow. And we're going to look back on it. We're going to analyze it. Deep dives. And overtime we'll be throwing tonight because what? You've got afterburners?

I'm on after burner. So shoot out. Good. I'm not sure if there's any odds on 5365. There are. Yeah, you can be on that. Probably is. Probably is.

Yeah. That's the story. But before we say goodbye, got some super chat. On your super chat, it is inside the YouTube chat during the course of the show as it's live. You put some money down. We'll take your message.

Put it on the show. Take the money and give it to the youth centers of Calgary so they can make a difference with it. And boy, can they. Jesse Hook, fellas. Happy five year anniversary of the Miami trip where Okotokes crashed your fancy party and then brought COVID back to Canada.

Love your pal and Barney for life, Jesse the Leach. It's not five years ago. I was too drunk to remember any of those things happening. That is what happened. Yeah, it's true. In Miami, donkeys crashed our work trip. We passed around bottles of Pink Whitney on the bus.

Yeah. And everyone got deathly ill upon returning home. It was funny because we didn't really quite understand COVID at that point. It was out there. Some sort of thing in Asia. And then salespeople were so sick. They were missing weeks and we're like, God, these guys are soft. They get this boondog of vacation.

They can't show up and work. Like, we're all rough here. But come on. I'm stuffing macaroons into Steinberg's mouth with your fingers and other people's mouths. Dirty, dirty, dirty fingers. Well, hey, happy anniversary, Jesse. A lot of good times, sir. Yeah.

Red wasn't there. No, you weren't there. It was coming. Mace. Finder, 7 to 10, you're good, 16 to below, shake my head. Talking draft, I believe.

First round. And below, I imagine he means 16 to 32. He probably means straight shite. I'd agree with that. He was like, rantin himself would fall into that. 7 to 10, you're good. That's a good spot for them this year.

Mace, because if it's number 16, they miss the playoffs and they give the pick to Montreal. That's not good. Not ideal. well thanks for the uh oh seven seven bucks more close there one more to the no i was hoping for yeah i know on today not today uh not today not today uh not today so um what are you in the old band up to today i heard i heard he didn't bring any of that white popcorn like you didn't bring the popcorn oh yeah he had some leftover haulless popcorn he said no

It can only fit so much in the freezer. I get, well, yeah. Draw some off the studio, you selfish prick. Yeah, yeah. We love that stuff from earlys. We might have to go to Bon Tonk. Don't ask him anymore. Just bring it.

Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Swing by Bon Ton, kids hockey. Tonight, what do you got to call? A couple practices. Nice. Got to get dialed in for tomorrow. Can't lose now, Dean.

Can't lose now. Can't lose now, Rhett. Big game at George Blondon tonight. Oh. Tiny dressing rooms. Were people smaller back then? I don't know. Gear must have been smaller.

Here are probably eight bags. That's for sure. Was there eight players on a team then? Yeah. Well, good luck, because this is it for you, too. You got to. Keep one. It's the first of eight in a row, Dean.

Let's go. Yeah. Well, good luck to everybody out there in your city championships. Yeah. And good luck to the flames. Out in Philadelphia. Windy City. Yeah.

All right. See, buddies.