Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Trade Week | FN Barn Burner - March 3rd, 2025

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, hey, welcome. Hello. Hello. Oh, hello there. Is that the side, bud? Hello, Jerry. Rabbit, rabbit. Yeah, I guess it is, eh?
Starting point is 00:00:12 No. I've been dusting on these the last three months. Yeah, I've been slipping, slipping a little bit. It's the first time we've been on air since. Yeah, it's hard. I mean, weekend on the third. Third's not a weekend. It's all right.
Starting point is 00:00:25 I'll accept it. Thank you. I've let my game slide. More than us. Three in a row. Just letting you know. I appreciate that. Bet365 presents this program.
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Starting point is 00:01:01 We'll get to it in a little bit. We got some things we've got to get to. It was a very busy weekend, it sounds like. Oh, goodness, as busy as they get. Yes. We got into the pre-show was a hot one. Although, I mean, short, doesn't mean we got you in and then we sat down and bang.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Right into it. Kids hockey, the front and center of everybody. City championships, Dean, tensions are high. Yeah, stress. Yeah. Now your coach, your head coach is away. in Orlando. Bad timing.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Didn't know that cities were at this time here, I guess. That's a big conference for the mothership, so he had to be there. Luckily, though, he has a good staff. You, the assistant coach, ready to step in and many capable and competent assistance. Right. But you're the guy. Let's be honest. You're the alpha.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Lots of guys. We're all pulling the rope. When it goes, well, he takes more responsibility. Oh, man. Anyway. Yeah. So how did it go? Oh, the worst loss of the year.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Oh, no. Heavy favorites. upset after a buy. Down to the B side. Kids crying on the bench in the second period down two goals with half a game left. What are we doing? Fellas. What happened? Breathe.
Starting point is 00:02:13 It's okay. There's half a game, fellas. And kids pick up on the adults in the room quite often. Have you found that, Dean? They really do. They feed off that energy. I'm going to have to find another coach to blame for that. Gama's cucumber.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Come on. Seathing. Not seething. just like, how are we here? How did we get to this spot where we forgot how to pass? And we're crying down two goals when we were averaging like eight a game. What time was the game? 9.45 a.m.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Also, you're not wiped out from too much. Maybe they didn't get that early. Was there a curfew called? Did you make curfew? No, I made curfew on Friday because I didn't know Thursday. Right. What rank? Krishka, Justice Joe.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Don't like it because the parents are behind the bench. When they're looking at the bench, the parents are right behind you. You want the parents on the other side. Get out of. After 40, we had to sit them down with backs to the wall and say, hey, hey, I's here. We've had lots of great periods this season. Many of those will win this game. Let's go have one.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Have fun, boys. Pass the puck. And if you eff it up, we're banks skate. And we did bank skate yesterday. That's correct. Full ice too. Perfect timing. So now it's win.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Now we need just eight wins in a row. That's it. That's not eight. Is it seven? Six or seven? Is it eight? It might be seven with the buy. I did the math.
Starting point is 00:03:26 It's a lot. It's heavy. Yeah. No, it'd be nine. But it can be done. And I'll say this, more satisfying. That's Cinderella's loading. That's what I told the fellas.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Loaded? It's loading. She's hot. She's something. Bit of a vixen. Yeah. Could a twist off. Is she the one where you got to get there before midnight?
Starting point is 00:03:44 Yeah. Pumpkin. Yeah. Oh, don't like that. So she turns to Shrek at midnight. So how did the, how did the head coach take it while in his absence? One of the rare losses of the season. He had his wife, like, FaceTiming the last.
Starting point is 00:03:58 two periods and he just was texted into the coach like i'm shocked i'm stunned what what just yeah the hell's going on it's like a substitute teacher though you know dean eh like when that sub came in oh i know we're like oh we're gonna roll this put my feet up and we enjoy this we had the sub in earlier for a six nothing win but still it was like mm goal he's making this look good this is a six four game and we should yeah i don't know we missed head coach for sure so when's the next one uh tomorrow then Saturday, then Sunday, and on and on, if we keep winning. If you lose, season's over. Can I go to that game and not watch the flames?
Starting point is 00:04:33 It'd be more entertaining. I feel like the parents would be into it. The good news is because it's at 11.30 in the morning, potentially, you'd be able to watch both. Tomorrow? Oh, sorry, I was talking about Saturday. Yeah. No, it's well of time for both.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Okay. You're scrambled. Hey, look it. Well, I thought you asked what I talked about Saturday. Okay. Well, I did. And you. I'm a week up here.
Starting point is 00:04:56 What do you mean and you? Well, hang on. Hang on. I got another layer before. Yeah, we're not done with it. So meanwhile, while all this is going on in the chaos of cities, now schedule is continually readjusting. I'm in the annual divorce court tournament,
Starting point is 00:05:11 which is doubles club championship with my wife. And so it's like win or lose, tennis here, tennis there. I play tennis twice a year. It's these tournaments. And then I get scowls for double faulting. What do you expect? I serve the ball of three months.
Starting point is 00:05:24 So yeah, I know there's three tennis games mixed in on the weekend as well. Well, why don't you put more effort into it? Like you got drunk on Thursday. You could have been, you got a private club to your hoop-dy-do club over there. I think on Thursday I did hit the ball with my young man, but that's more babysitting than hitting serves. Someone else that really likes something, he's not, he's not giving back. She'll be putting in three hours on the courts today.
Starting point is 00:05:51 That's her. So you didn't win the divorce court? we lost in the D quarterfinals which basically is thanks for coming out you might have won one of your four matches one of five great or in your case the no D that's right
Starting point is 00:06:06 when you lose that final yeah well I'm sad to hear that insane weekend yeah with an after burner in the middle yeah because I really needed to sit down and watch the Panthers oh yeah
Starting point is 00:06:17 I'm a hard day school the flames with the disco Dan Vladar spinning like a top in net the entire night But you opted out of the Thursday for that one, right? Because how that worked. No, because Thursday I had the meeting of the mines. Right. So looking back, you can call it whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Oh, I had to do it. Just, yeah. Then a Wranglers game in there. Friday night, Wranglers? Saturday night. Oh, my kid went Friday night. Old Devin Cooley got the hook. I thought this guy was.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Got to get Roy Karran's backup, but since the injury's not been as good. It's not going to any good, eh? It's a pretty direct line between 930 to. injury and then not 930. Well, good luck, Dev. Get better, eh? It'll be fine, eh? Yeah, get better.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Don't need you, but get better. Oh, you might. You have a big trade week. This is it. Oh, he's just the week, eh? This is the week. Yeah. We'll talk a lot about it.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Yeah, we've got to get to Rett's tournament first, though. Yeah, we'll talk a lot about it this week. I'm very excited to analyze. Yeah, the trade. Because it seems. Lots of rumors today, I tell you. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Three big trades in the weekend. Those people are like, could they talk about it? No, they're just going to talk about their kids' sports? What would you rather talk about? We need to catch up first. So you have two young lads, three of them, but two in, uh, I had three in town this week. A couple games out of that hoopty duty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Yeah. Nice. Was that set up? That's not bad, you know. Tuned them in game one. Yeah. Good. Tune to men's the word, but right.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Smarting them up. Saturday. Yeah. Big win on Friday though. Yeah, that Friday game was so good. Friday. Yeah. They quit on Friday.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah. And then we also had the buy with the middle child, lost that one, but came back yesterday and put together a win. In the must win. Yeah. So, and the youngest, they rolled. Really, real good. Came one.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Real good. Moving the puck. For check, a back check, pay check. Oh, that's right. Yeah. That's what they said. Zipping it around, having fun. I had about seven hockey games.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I was down to medicine hat and back. Really? Oh, what a weekend? Parents in town annoying me. Shish, please. Shish. Yeah. So are you behind a bench of any of these teams?
Starting point is 00:08:34 Me? You. Oh, yeah, yeah. I have not a lot. Well, I felt like I was a coach on Saturday. I let my kid know. Yeah, which leagues are you not banned in? Just which kid, one, two or three.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I raised my voice a few times. Oh. Well, you got to let the boys know. Yeah. Trev, too many. Expectations. Got to let them. Too many.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Trev. Too many. So you. I help coach the younger, too. That's what you're. You help coach both of them. I see. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And the bench I was on lost and the bench I didn't make it to once. So I don't know if that says anything. Seems. You and I had a tough weekend for our win-loss records. Just makes you tougher. How's it? You guys done? Are you still playing?
Starting point is 00:09:17 What's up? I don't know. It's a little different. I think it's playoffs, but they don't really call. call it that. Why? I don't know. Different. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Because not how other people do and we're not going to. We're not hockey. Hockey calls the playoffs. We're calling it a jamboree. It is playoffs. But no, they won both. They've had a very good year. We get to go to Medicine Hat as well now for provincials.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Apparently a great sausage. Come on a sausage shop. Regis. Has it still. World's largest TP still? there world's largest teepee oh you know what those kids that live down there they can't get enough of it they're always popping into the tee is that right oh it's like the poop sticks out by yeah that's right yeah yeah like those hanging out there grab a sixer Friday night just going like is
Starting point is 00:10:09 hang out by the blue it's yeah yeah it's like the big the big blue ring yeah part of our culture let's go to the blue ring and then we'll check out that bridge and then we'll go to the poop sticks it's the bridge is actually kind of nice others are complete swing and misses. Yeah. Yeah. The bridge is offended to be lumped into that. People get their wedding photos of the bridge.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You kind of lump the bridge. The bridge might be all right. It's just the cost of the bridge seems. Yeah. It better be nice for that price tag. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 00:10:42 Flames. Let's go to some positivity. McLeod law, our opening statements. Oh, boy. Um, sorry, McLeodlaw. I wish, uh, short and to the point. Yeah, short and to the point. We apologized on Friday.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Yeah, or one of the days last week, it was we apologized. Actually, it was after the Washington game. Yeah. So we had apologies for the flames feel like maybe a turnabout. Can we take back to us? Or they owe us. Yeah, one of the two. Maybe they owe us.
Starting point is 00:11:06 But cloud law, Calgary based, Calgary born, Calgary bread, Calgary roots run deep. It is why we love them. It's when you need legal assistance, big or small. You don't get shipped out to Toronto or to New York or just, it's Calgary. and they are proud of that. They know the people in the city. They work amongst the people in the city.
Starting point is 00:11:27 They are the people in our city. And because of that, genuinely care about what happens here in Calgary. We like that a lot. McLeod-dashlaw.com, whatever your legal needs may be. Last night, I guess afternoon, all these dumb start times.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Yeah, it depends on what part of the country here, indeed. Flames, Scortigal. Yeah, that was a big. big thing. I know the was it was the third period the score? Yeah, the ninth. That meant they were probably at
Starting point is 00:12:01 160 to 170 minutes of the goal at that point. Yeah. But they got it. They did score a goal. Which forced overtime, got them to extra time. Find away flames.
Starting point is 00:12:15 One shot away from a victory. They did not get that shot. They had one shot in the first. They shouldn't waste it. That's right. Yeah. It's weird. It's not weird.
Starting point is 00:12:26 It's coming to roost. When you play good teams, you struggle. Your offense is just. Well, and I'll say this. Those are three of the best teams in the league. They just played. Washington, it's a great story. I still don't know anyone's going to be picking them in their brackets.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Very good team. But when you look at Tampa, Florida, Carolina, these are teams that for the better part of a decade have been contenders. They know how to play. There's a core. There's an identity. they keep the puck, you don't get it. And the work ethic for the flames varied in those games.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I loved their effort yesterday, but they are so challenged offensively. It's when you say hard to watch, here's what I, and I don't mean, I guess from a fan's perspective, I almost, I feel for everybody. Yes. They know they're not very good. They know that offensively.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Yeah. The coach knows that. The assistant coaches, they all know that. And I feel like that game yesterday, it's whatever it is now the fourth on this trip it's a tough opponent yesterday was an afternoon that we travel another afternoon it's time zone the whole thing
Starting point is 00:13:27 yeah they were I thought they worked their balls on this is the problem if your kids had that effort we would have won by a mile you'd have been happy with us you guys showing up and giving you're all like you think about that four minute penalty killed the end yes that gets them a point
Starting point is 00:13:45 like guys are laying out balls taking a shot off as like these guys are playing their asses off. And when we talk about the team not being that good, I think sometimes that can be misinterpreted as people, us taking shots of this group. This group has so overachieved from where we all thought they would be when we sat in this room and talked in September, they deserve a massive tip of the cap
Starting point is 00:14:06 for their work ethic and their ability to have as many points as they do with the roster that they have. But that doesn't mean they're a talented team. Goaltending has kept them out of the lottery mix. That's it. They are not, I said it last week, too, and I'm just another criticism. And it's not even a Chris. They can't elevate their game.
Starting point is 00:14:27 They can go out. They're full elevation. Well, right now it's, you're seeing the other side. They go out, they'll have nice streets. They'll like winning some games. Hey, maybe playoff team when guys are scoring. Then when everybody stops scoring minus one or two and you're already challenged. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:45 This is when you get one period or nine, one goal in nine. plus periods of clock. And again, when they are scoring, they still don't get the four goals. Like, it's rare events you get to four. When they're scoring, it's not like they're scoring scoring. It's they're just, oh, if our goalie allows two,
Starting point is 00:14:59 we can win. When the floodgap's open, what are we going to get to? Three? Yeah, maybe four. Like yesterday, it almost had that kind of Kipper versus Detroit vibes to it. Not that they were getting run around.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Like the, but you just, there's no way they deserve to be here. The goal he's making saves. He's seeing the puck. There's no skill. here to be had. It felt inevitable.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Like I was saying when you're asking that, oh, so you want to go to a movie? Oh, you don't watch movies. Oh, you don't eat food. Okay, I guess this isn't going to work out. It was not going to work out for the flames. You didn't feel. And then you get down in the dumps about it because you don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. Do you?
Starting point is 00:15:39 Like, again, you'll, they will win a hockey game. They might win the next hockey game. But where do you see this team? competing against and who are the guy I'm get into it too deep who are the guys coming up that are going to be those guys that can score for sure and where are the holes for them to spot into this lineup but right like yeah it depends how what you want to zoom out here because if you want to talk about this spring is the end of the tunnel okay there's one answer but if you're looking two three years out if you're looking at a new building in the fall 27 I mean there's a whole lot
Starting point is 00:16:14 different depths you could go to, but I just don't see this core competing with cup contenders. And yet we wake up today and where are they? They're in a playoff spot. You know what's all so wild? They're two spots from a top 10 pick, two points. Two, two. Say it again. Two points from a top 10 pick.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Two, Dean. That's insane. I don't know if I have a draw for that one. Utah is 10th from the bottom. There are two points behind the flames. You don't say. And so here we are again. This is the crappy middle.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Utah is 10th from. the bottom 23rd in the league they'll play philly tomorrow four point game proverbial four pointer thanks but yeah like this is how compact it is look at all those teams separated by four points that spreads from eighth overall pick to in a playoff spot wild and i look at the teams behind the flames like yeah i like godwai rangers can't nearly be as bad as they were in november December. Blues are coming. Montreal's had a nice little resurgence. Utah's look good. Like I don't think it's inconceivable.
Starting point is 00:17:17 They still get a top 10 pick here. And when you're asking about the light of the end of the tunnel, for me, if they could have all the achievements they had in terms of young players developing and being in big minutes, Wolf, Zeri, you know, Coronado amongst others, Ball's Emergence is a top four guy. And you could end up picking in the top 10, that would be the best way to have a season. Because your fan base wasn't left out in the Wilderness in November, like we thought they were going to be where it's like, yeah, these games be nothing and there's 50 left. There's a lot left, but to your point, they have given, they've given you some exciting
Starting point is 00:17:51 games, some games worth watch and that sort of thing. It has not been a death march of a season. It's March and they're in a playoffs. And they are in a playoffs. Like fans are in. I don't know that all of them necessarily believe that this is a group that could do anything in the playoffs, but it's not like you're like, oh, yeah, the Canucks are here next Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:18:07 That's a meaningless. I mean, no, it's a huge game. That's going to affect, you know, playoff standings. But it's going to make this week boring. Like I try and I'm trying to think of ways to shape it for just for the purposes of discussion. I mean, on one hand, we are talking about them right now when they have played the toughest opponents on the road and are not scoring. Guys, it's just to look at the numbers and we'll get into it.
Starting point is 00:18:32 So it's how you don't want to judge them right now. What you're looking at now? But even if, okay, well, if guys start to score a little bit, you're going to have a hard time convincing anybody. They're not the we're going to score two to three a night team even when we're rolling. Yes. Because they have been rolling at times during this season. And where are they over
Starting point is 00:18:50 in offense? They were that team that might get, I mean, four once in a blue moon kind of thing. I agree. And so what this road trip is showing you is, hey, if you did get in the playoffs, here's what round one looks like. Yeah, it's completely dried up. But even if you're scoring your normal goals every
Starting point is 00:19:08 game, what are they averaging? Yeah, I know. Two and a half. Does it change where they sit in goal scoring throughout the league, right? Like only the National Predators have scored fewer goals this season, period. And they're not happy with how things are going. They're not having a year. They're not one to emulate. Cheese toast.
Starting point is 00:19:27 So delicious, you know, you let us know when that's happening. We're going to crash that party. I'm going to extra for check. We're to soak noodles. French and you up, Leicester cheese toasts at the table. Coronado had all kinds of chances, the one, the stick breaks on the one timer. He's got a chance. He's kind of almost wide open on a partial break after the past.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And he, I mean, Coachtkov, I don't know if he played well or what he was yesterday. It was good enough to get. He had one for a lot. He's an adventure playing the podcast. Yeah. He's a high event guy. Yeah, high event guy. They did sit Sharon Govich down.
Starting point is 00:20:00 We talked about him either Thursday or Friday last week. It's just been, it's been a long stretch. One point in his last six games, but even going on, it's not been a difference me at all. Like you don't notice him. I don't get it. Well, he needs a new season to begin because last year,
Starting point is 00:20:16 he started on the fourth line and they didn't know where to put him. And he ended up getting the 30 goals and was phenomenal. And he was your greatest. I don't know that score from distance. What do you like? Played all lines, all wings. And this year, it's like nothing's going right. I just,
Starting point is 00:20:29 my concern and your comment is actually jumps out at me is that where did he start last year? Centering the fourth line. So we've seen more fourth line. Or as much fourth line play out of him as first line. I know he scored 30 and I was, I'm applauding him thinking, this is great. What a trade. This is wonderful.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And now I'm like, Jersey knew something. We're okay letting him go. Yeah. Jersey also had lots of guys like him. They were not offensively challenged where the flames were. And he'd fallen down the depth chart to be like to your points and mine. The guy's a 30 goal score.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Because you're a 30 goal scorer. You don't. Yeah, and they got a 30 goal score in the trade in Tofoli. They didn't have to guess that Sharon Grovich was going to be one. Now, that deal made sense for both teams at the time. What you want to see is Sharon Govich get back to what he was last year because all those skills he had last year are still there. It does leave you wondering, though, what is that?
Starting point is 00:21:27 So what are you? Guy that scored 30. Oh, yeah, I wouldn't put him out for 30 again, but geez, if he had 24, you'd be thrilled. Yeah, he's had a 24 would be thrilling. You don't notice, I mean, you want him into stands. Like, that's a far cry from it. Like, no one's arguing if he's a top line center or fourth liner. Like he clearly, for his contract, has to be a middle six winger.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Is he? Has to be that if it's going to work out. Is he is the question where he was with a bullet last year and not this year. So I don't know the answer. And it's out to what happened in Jersey, isn't it? Because he had a good year. 24 and then down to 11 or something. Boy, and the thing was two last year is they put him in all those different roles.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And it seemed like he didn't necessarily thrive, but he was up for the challenge. It was more or less came through for them. You were impressed that despite being moved around all over the lineup, he scored. Contractor? It was. Yeah. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Like, yeah. It was a contract. Yeah, he needed a contract. Well, I do. I brought it up. It's, it's, you go from making nothing to 575 and what changes in your life. Do you put more pressure on yourself? Did you treat you and your fiancee to an incredible vacation in this off season?
Starting point is 00:22:35 Did you change your workout routines? Like, did he's going to, did you get married? You're going to show us? Yeah, what happens? What happens? So this is what happens when you go from zero to five. Uh-oh. See what he's doing here?
Starting point is 00:22:47 See what he's doing? For those just listening, he has put his feet up. Is that? That's right, team. Yeah. Yeah, and look, if you wanted to measure his, how much he was putting his feet up. Thank God it's a visual.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I mean, how did we ever do this in the radio? I don't know. Foolish. How do we ever get our points across? Like, how would you measure? his effort and compete. I mean, look, if he's not getting Pucks to Nett, it's not going to work for him.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I just don't even, yeah. I feel like you don't even see him to give him a rating. Here's the question I have. You have to really be. Haska! It's been great, right? We love Huska. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:24 It's done a lot with very little. Okay. I see him getting heat in social media. I don't get it. Oh, they don't have scored enough. If you want to get Sharon Govich going, why aren't you just feed him a bunch of one-time shots on a powerful? Well, he has had significant.
Starting point is 00:23:39 an opportunity to do that over the course of the 65 games or whatever it is, right? Yeah, I don't know. It's not like I haven't tried putting him with different guys. He's been spotted all over. I just want, you're on the power play, shoot the puck. That's it. That's all I want you to do.
Starting point is 00:23:52 That's what we were saying in November when he came back from injury. Shoot the pleading puck. It feels like they don't even get set up on the power play for him to be in a position to wait for it. And to be fair, like Coronado's past him. Frost has come in and helped him as a zone. He's like he's, I'm not making the excuse for him, but like you're get a chance to shoot the puck when you can earn a spot in pp1 he hasn't he hasn't
Starting point is 00:24:12 he's done then if frost and those guys have already passed by where are you going to get him in and boy if there's a team right now that would take a little bit of soft play or some mistakes for scoring for scoring yeah i mean it's the it's huska right now you'd be just he's dying for it here's some of the i mean for sharon govich one point in his last six joel fairby takes a shot off the hand yesterday. I was kind of surprised that he came back with what it looked like, but he comes back and had a, I guess what, a partial breakaway and didn't score. He's got one goal in 10 games, no assist.
Starting point is 00:24:46 So the one point in 10 games is a player. That's not good enough either. It's not. Frost came with him, two goals and an assist in 10 games. I said it the other day. I'm not looking to protect the guy. I just feel like. They need some time.
Starting point is 00:24:59 You need some guys around you a little bit. The one guy was Sharon Govich, who we told you can't piss a draw. and Farabee also. It's death valley. Zeri, we're giving him all kinds of space, but he hasn't yet a post yesterday. It might start to come, but zero in the five since coming back.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Backlin and Coleman get a pass all the time. There's no offense coming from that line. Really bad the last couple months. I don't know what's going on there. It's either the mile. It's 35. Is he playing with something? That's the message that we've kind of been giving.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Or is it fathered time? There was one play last. Last night, it was, I don't know what period it was. Ordinarily, he would have gotten to a puck. There was a puck just kind of in front of him. And rather than skateboard, he just kind of reached for it. Do you want me to pile on? He has zero and eight, one assist in 13 games.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Coleman has nothing in 10 games. So they might be contributing in other ways. But now you've got your third line with zero off it. So what you're seeing is a fourth line that's got issues because it's got Rooney on it all the time. And Longberg who we love, but doesn't accomplish anything moving the needle in terms of offense. And then your first line
Starting point is 00:26:11 can create some things. Cadre, Huberto, and now Coronado up there, but you're getting nothing from lines two and three offensively. Go ahead. I was going to say is posthal and Lomberg need to be moved, used in a different way. I didn't fall. They put possible up top for questions. But that's what I'm saying. Do you need to just
Starting point is 00:26:28 say, you know what? Yeah, you guys are shitty offensively, but you know what? Backland and Coleman, we're putting Lombard with you because you guys are they put back on the fourth line for a bit they moved pospousal to play with frost and zary that's some more talent for frost to work with i have a criticism again of backs then where it's like pick up your let's go everyone has to salute you as the captain well then take up a leadership role yeah so you do other no no no what's the team need right now scoring so score yeah he's never been good at that to be fair
Starting point is 00:27:04 but it would be nice if he could. Nice to give him a pass. So he's the guy that gets the pass. He's 35 and he's never put up goals. We can't expect it now, can we? I think when you're the captain of a, I want to swear, I'm trying not to, of the NHL team and you know that your team needs something.
Starting point is 00:27:20 If you're expected to be a good leader, you go and do what needs to be done. And whether it's his gift or not, it's not like he can't. Make an impact. Yeah. Like, hey, look, I don't, I don't disagree with any of that.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I just think if you're, if you've looked at the last decade of his career, your expectation for this year would be like 12 to 16 goals. And he's going to get 12 to 16. Yeah, but it's not when you need it. It's just that he hasn't scored since 10. Not what you need a goal now. Why aren't you yesterday? It's five weeks of that goal.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Why aren't you yesterday the first star of the game? Because you're like, you know what? My team needs that's leadership. Yeah, I don't know that he's capable of 35 to be fair to go be the first star of a game. trouble they can't score and i don't know if it is he's a third line center he's been that his whole career he's asked to be a two-line center this year you're doing it again it's the it's the typical backland is great except he's not expected to contribute in any way unless he can't he's expected to contribute hugely defensively by playing other teams top lines all night but
Starting point is 00:28:22 offense is not ever what he's been good at i don't buy it okay i mean look i told you i don't i haven't liked this game for the last couple months but again he slotted a line higher than should be. Then fine, slot all these guys. None of them are any good and blow the team up. Like, that's what you're, like. I'm not saying that. I mean, they pretty much are the team they should be with just really good goals. Stop talking about it. No, no, no. No, no. I do. I get what I was saying. I, I would love for this team to have a captain that could at age 35 take over a game and be
Starting point is 00:28:53 first star and score when they need it. It's one day. That's not this team. They're not good. It's one game. You can't elevate your game and recognize that. I mean, I'm putting a, kind of drying a line of the sand here, but it's true. It's one game and your team needs you. You're supposed to be the lead, like, make it impact. Yeah, I wouldn't look for offense. Well, then I would be very concerned if you think that, again, I'll go back to. So in the playoffs, how's he like, you can't elevate then.
Starting point is 00:29:29 So he's just going to be a shutdown. If you can't elevate for a game. Yeah. Oh, look, I don't think any of these guys have more sealing to give aside from the sharing go, which is of the world who have been big letdowns. Like, this isn't a good enough team in my mind. So, like, what I would measure back and by is like, do they work their tails off? Are they a cohesive group?
Starting point is 00:29:51 The answer is yes for both those. It doesn't means to have it a great year. But like the captain thing doesn't mean you have to go score goals. I don't see the effort, though. Like it's been a tough month, like I've said three times now. It's been really rough. He hasn't scored to stand. 27.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Yeah, you're talking both sides of fence. You throw out a cap is a caveat where it's like, oh, I don't think he's building well, but it's not his fault because he's 35. No, I'm not saying it's not his fault. I'm saying your expectations are off if you're thinking he's going to score goals. I think you're a clown for saying that the captain of an NHL team, you can't have any expectation of them.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Now, are you saying that he could make that impact without scoring? That's what I'm saying. He's asking for offense. Has he hit anyone? Has he driven the net? Has he made a pass? Has he won the faceoffs? Has he done a captain's,
Starting point is 00:30:33 job. Face off has been good, but otherwise no. Penalick kill's been excellent on this road trip. Otherwise, no. Like, that's the thing, even. Yeah. So take away the goal scoring. It's, it's, he's in a bad way right now.
Starting point is 00:30:46 He is. Yeah, he really is. And with that has gone Coleman, who I think is also, there's points there. Yeah, it. It's ugly. It's hard to watch right now. And we, but we expected this to be October, November December, December, it's March into the playoffs spot.
Starting point is 00:31:02 It's still, it has. It has happened. But yeah, like you look at the middle six. No one's playing well. Nobody. Well, and all those. So that's all,
Starting point is 00:31:09 I'll list it off. Fairby. One in 10. Yeah. Frost, three points in 10 games. Pospisal, very rarely are,
Starting point is 00:31:17 you know, a nice little bit here on this road trip, but not nearly as impactful as you saw the first two months of it as an NHL career. Zeri coming back from injury, not right yet. Sharingovich lost to see. Outside of,
Starting point is 00:31:29 outside of the two guys at the top, Cadry and Hubert. And Coronado. who's been very good. That's it. Yeah. And so again, this is why we thought
Starting point is 00:31:37 this was a team that wasn't good enough. You're counting on guys in their earlier mid-30s to be guys they've never been their whole career. Like Coleman getting 30 last year, that's a complete outlier
Starting point is 00:31:47 that was never going to happen again. His shooting percentage was sky high. It was a very lucky year. You could not have put them down for more than 22, 23 this year. Like, they're just not good at scoring. They have no game breakers. So they need a top 10 pick.
Starting point is 00:32:03 And to your point in, In different years, and we've seen it here with teams, you'd be, okay, this is, if you're going to miss the playoffs, maybe Backland sits down for a stretch, you bring in somebody from, you bring in that next prospect who you have high hopes for from the farm. Or you slide guys down and elevate it. So, Clapka came in, but, you know, I, okay, that's Clapka. Does Rory Carrens, is he, it doesn't feel like they're two years away from graduating a crop of. not at the four position high level score. I'm not and you're you guys would know more about the crop that's even being grown right now I don't know
Starting point is 00:32:42 like Perix far and away the best prospect and that's and that's I still and I love per X one thing you have to have some forwards that yeah and I don't know who they are and they might be out there and there might be high hopes for for some of the guys that are coming along but there's no one knocking on the door when you need goals and you you you've watched this team and Coleman can't score
Starting point is 00:33:06 and it's not that you're going to bench Coleman and Backland, but you can't turn to anywhere and get goals. If they somehow get a top 10 pick and take a forward there, that's their best forward prospect, period, stop. That, because they just
Starting point is 00:33:23 don't have a sure thing there. Bash has dealt with injury this year. Gridon's playing in the queue, lighting it up on a mediocre team, okay, kind of what you'd hope he's doing. good. You know, you've got some bigger stabs. Like, Patagli having a nice year. Still, what, a second rounder in the O? Like, there's nobody close. Hansick is going to be a project.
Starting point is 00:33:44 You know, we don't even know he's a center of a winger yet. He's hurt again. I do not like this. No, but, but that's why you need a top 10 pick. And that's why I really challenged by people that are like, no, no, you really should resign Rasmus. Like, do you know far away you are? My opinion, well, do you know how far away you are? Stop talking about Rasmus because people are listening. And if you poo-poo them, we're not going to get us good. I'm not saying what his play is. I'm saying you've got to trade him, turn him into young assets.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I've come around. I was kind of back and forth. I think his play is dictated that if somebody wants him, trade him. It is tough, though, to watch because you are, you're looking at a team with Zeri and Coronado and Farabee and Frost. I mean, these were first round forwards. These are first round guys. They're supposed to be able to put the puck in that. And it's not happening for them.
Starting point is 00:34:33 And it's not. Yeah, it's a reminder that it's like, oh, Connie's going to go trade for one of these young centers. Like, yeah, but is it going to be a failed one or one that it's also a reminder that whatever you pick in the first round is no guarantee that he's going to be a difference. Of course, but if you look where all those guys are picked and where a top 10 pick is in here, it's a way higher pick. It's a better.
Starting point is 00:34:52 It's a higher probability of hitting. And again, we've never said you get one pick. It's going to change the team. What we've said is you need to have a lot of first and second round. I think you're wrong. I think you have to have one pick and you just don't. know if it's going to be. My point is the more bullets you have in the first and second round, the more likely you can actually find that game changing forward. But if you look at it and if you
Starting point is 00:35:12 want to, who's, who's the biggest game changer right now for the team? It's Wolf. Yeah. He's giving you performance and game changing ability like you would want out of a first round pick. So let's just for, you know, you got Wolf in the first round, Hansek, Zeri, Coronado, Frost, Fair. That's a lot of first rounders. You could look at it and say, we went through a rebuild. We've got five or six of our first rounders playing for the team right now. I mean, it's kind of an unreal, weird argument because like, what's the highest picked guy there? Like, 15, 20? Like, the whole idea of a rebuild is you get, well, you pick high enough that you, you get the much more likely to be a superstar guy. And when you get outside of the top three, top five, top 10, like your chance of a superstar continues to drop,
Starting point is 00:35:58 drop, drop to where 20 to 30 is like, is this an NHL? Okay, but. So like, so like, like, 30. he's not 20 he's 15 so he's five spots from the 10th that you're desperately saying it's going to be a difference maker i'm saying you got a better chance of it being a difference maker than a 23 year old that hasn't done anything in the league yet i don't get what you're saying no like they like if you could uh like frost is there it's an intriguing prospect but he's 25 if i'm correct when was frost and ferriby drafts in jac yeah 18 and 19 drafts 17 and 18 Anyway, keep going. And so those aren't high, they're not top 10 picks.
Starting point is 00:36:36 They're not, like if I'm correct, because I know fair. I think you're right. But I also think it's hard. Like, you have to be talking about a team that's really bad to pick in the top 10, four, five, six straight years. Yeah, to have a plethora of top 10 picks. But that's not what I'm saying. Like, I'm not saying, I've never said they need to pick in the top 10 for four,
Starting point is 00:36:57 five, six years. What I'm saying is when a situation like Rasmus, Anderson comes along, don't get the feel goods about a guy wanting to resign and saying nice things and turn that guy into as many high-end picks as you can. And so if you have one of your own picks in the top 10 and you have somebody else's between 18 and 25, go do that. You've spun it again. It's not about Anderson.
Starting point is 00:37:20 The more picks we- Okay, so trade Anderson for four second rounders? No, trade him for a first, a prospect, and a player, whatever. Like, go get as many young- and I don't disagree with you. But I think, and it comes back to the original argument, I think that you make it sound a little bit simplistic sometimes, which is how easy it is.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Get bad, pick high, get picks, be good, cup. They have some first round picks playing for this team right now. Not of them high. But so, yeah, Frost is 27. Joel Farabby 14. If you're not drafted high, you can't be an impact. So I guess what you're seeing is, so you, there's not a lot of superstars coming.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Now you're, now at the caveat. now you have to be not just get picks but they have to be all top 10 picks they all have to have to have you. You're making my argument very buying. What I'm saying is the best thing for this team is to me bottom out for a couple of years. Sorry. That's a clear answer. And I'm not saying, okay, well, this one pick and now they're going to win a cup. I've never said that.
Starting point is 00:38:18 What I'm saying is if you want to give your sign a chance to win a cup in a new building, you're going to need to pick high in the draft a few times and hit. And so if you're going to resign Rasmus Anderson, You're throwing away a few lottery tickets of what could be your next superstar. To pay a guy big money to be a second and then third pair guy deep into his 30s. We talked about Anderson last week. His stock and value in trade is dropping and his demands for financial remuneration. Is that a good word?
Starting point is 00:38:51 Can I use that? Does that make sense? Is also dropping? I still think he's a guy that is better than most teams' fourth defensemen. And that's an asset that would help you get first rounders. and the salary helps even more. It's like you're telling me that I'm wrong in my, but I'm trying to make it sound like he's not worth a lot.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I think he would be worth a lot in the trade. I don't think his, there's a reason we're all coming around to, yeah, go ahead and trade him. It's because he's not playing at any league level. There's two things happening. It's his play,
Starting point is 00:39:19 but it's also the understanding that with Rasmus Anderson, is this team even good? Because it's really like you take good goaltening away and why are you locking into the back nine of a player of a core that isn't good enough. I'm not arguing for. So there's two things happening. I don't think he's having a great year,
Starting point is 00:39:36 but you're also going to be able to spot him. So you're telling me the rest of the leagues watching Anderson get older, play worse, but like not noticing? What I'm saying is that Rasmus Anderson for this year and next year is still a valuable trade asset. I totally agree. I'm just,
Starting point is 00:39:54 he's not, if he was a first ballot all start in a world star game this year, if he was at 50 points, and was playing 25 minutes and he's worth more. He's not playing as well. Other teams are going to notice his value is not increasing the way he's playing, is what I'm saying. Yeah, I think teams know exactly what Rasmus Anderson is at this point.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I don't think they're scared of the next two years. I think you should be scared of the next nine, which is what the Flames would be signing up for. I do think, though, to Rett's point, I think that some of the, shines off. Sure, because he's playing 24 a night. If he's on a second pair on a contender, what's what's his workload like? Yeah, but you're acting like he isn't showing any, like, I'm sorry, I'm putting words in your mouth, but you're making it seem like this is, every team in the league, it's the only thing and they're going to give you whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:40:49 And I don't think he's playing well enough to demand that. And do you remember when I said trade Gierdano and you're like, you're an idiot? No, we all agree. They should trade better than Anderson. You would have traded him before, nor a sear, which would have been in hindsight crazy. Not trading him before the expansion draft was where we all agree. No, no, no, no. Yeah. You should have traded him when he was at a King's ransom. I said it for years.
Starting point is 00:41:11 It's great that Giordano's playing well. But anyway, I don't know why that's... He's playing more than he should, and it's exposed him more than he should be exposed. And Kevin Ball was who a year ago? A third pair guy? A six, seven?
Starting point is 00:41:28 Like, let's... I'm not trying to make excuses, but what I'm trying to paint as the pitcher. If you're the Dallas stars and you've got Hayskin in and Lindell and Harley, is that not a way better place to Rasmus to come in and play top four minutes? And I'm not saying Dallas is a fit. It's way less needed than to Rasmus. I get it, but like they're going to look at it and go, yeah, we need a guy.
Starting point is 00:41:51 But what do you, like, they're not going to open up the floodgates to shore up a good defense core. Teams will have an idea what they want to give up in terms of either. I don't know that Dallas is the right example. Yeah, you know, who else would look good in Dallas? Kevin Ball. Because guess what? It's easy to play in Dallas because the rest of the deer are good. Yeah, I just think again, it's the right shot and it's a guy that you're not going to have placed the burden on that Calgary has to because of how thin.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And the shitty part about all this is I don't think they're trading Anderson until next year. They won't. They'll do it this summer if they're going to do it. Yeah. Which sucks, but it's also Connie being a. a guy that's been in those rooms and knowing the potential fallout of moving him. Like, let's say they trade him on Thursday. Who's the next
Starting point is 00:42:39 knock on your door? But that's the catch of it all, because I think we all agree with you. We're not as convinced that a draft pick simply saying draft someone's going to because I do agree. Frost and Farabee, and a lot, there's been a lot of people that have been drafted with very high regards and expectation
Starting point is 00:42:55 and not turned out. So it's not a guarantee. So we all think that drafting have lost my train. We all think that drafting higher. We're talking about trading Anderson and what it would do to the team, right? Oh, yeah. And then the catch to keeping Anderson is that it hurts you more in dropping to that higher spot, right? Like, I don't know that that's a strategy to trade someone away so that your team's not as good so that you get in that.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yeah, no, it might be a fortunate little side effect. You wouldn't do it because of that. But I think what you have to ask yourself of your Craig Conroy is, if I were to make this trade this week, what am I getting back? and what's the probability of that helping my team in the big picture more than Rasmus would in the big picture when you factor in salary and when you factor in the caliber of the player, the age of the player, all that. And I think when you look at it that way, it's a no-brainer. But the human element is one that I think we can't put values on as easily. And that's how does Nazim Kodry, Blake Coleman, McKenzie Weeger?
Starting point is 00:43:53 I think that's where they feel if Rasmus leaves and now you're getting more Pahal-Miramano of Solov. then you already have too much. I almost wonder if that's the conversation that Conroy and management, and I'm sure they have, because they're going to have 8 million conversations. They talk about it all day instead of just two hours like us.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Do we sell it all? And can we sell it all? Not really. Given what we've heard and what we know about what Connie said publicly, I don't think he has any interest of disrupting the room. And this summer he'll reevaluate. chicken shit.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Do you, boom, you have any sense that they're, no, I can't imagine I can't see them selling.
Starting point is 00:44:39 They're too close. I think they, they should consider it more than they probably are, but I still, I understand. They're in a playoff spot. It's a huge vote of non-confidence
Starting point is 00:44:48 to a room that's been unbelievable. You know, tough week aside. The problem. This team is so far outshot their expected results. Because of Wolf. Yep.
Starting point is 00:44:59 It's becoming more and more clear. It's because of why. one guy and Conroy should just, and I actually seriously mean this, just stop and go back to 2010, 2011, and watch a few games. It's the same lineup. A bunch of old guys boring to watch, not quite that good, but was that goaltender? Unbelievable. It's, it's, it's, I'm just doing it off the top of my head. I'll bet you it would be eerily similar.
Starting point is 00:45:32 to what we saw a decade ago. Yeah. I mean, there are some young guys, but they're not stars. I mean, you're hopeful they could continue to improve, but I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Like, it's not a young team. You know, and the other thing is, too, it's not a story yet. And maybe it won't be. Maybe I'm just kind of popped into my head.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Like, you hear teams like up the road. All you're wasting so-and-so or you're wasting this guy with how this team, you know, the trajectory, it doesn't look like next year or the year after is going to suddenly, oh,
Starting point is 00:46:02 they've got all the scoring. They're a couple of years. They're going to have to hit a... You're going to talk about Dustin Wolf. He's not a kid anymore. You don't wasting good quality years of Dustin Wolf's prime here. And that's why the top priority of the summer has to be eight years for Dustin Wolf. So you've got a nine-year window.
Starting point is 00:46:15 So you can take two or three if you need to to get the pieces you're missing. I lived it in Buffalo. We had the best goalie in the world, maybe ever. They never won. We had a real close one year with a group of dusters and a goalie. If they'd have had the funding and the wherewithal to go grab a couple stars and actually add a goal score, they absolutely, I'm sorry. That's a decade of not good enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:50 And so I guess the question that we're all kind of dancing around is like, how bad can they actually be with Dustin Wolf? And I don't know because they might be bottom 10 in the league bad with them having a great year. Here's a question too then. Before you get rid of it. You're right. But would this be the one year where you can manipulate it and say, well, he's a rookie. We don't have to play him every game. We can actually go.
Starting point is 00:47:13 If he's going to be that good and it sounds stupid, but a year or two from now, he's 100% playing as many games as he wants. Yeah. This year you can say, no, you're playing every other game. They're getting your feet wet. We're going to, this might be the one year where you could sacrifice. a few starts to go backwards to get higher. Yeah, and look, the coach would never want to do it in the room.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Don't care. But if you're Craig Conroy, you got to slam your fist on the table. If you're a point out with a week to go, we're like, we can't before to win another game. I'd love you, Hoska. And I was just saying pick 11 to Montreal. It is an absolute, the beginning of the year, you say, what's the worst case scenario for this team? Be like giving pick 11 to 16 to the haves. That's the worst case.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Because pick number 27, 28 from Florida, who cares? Whatever. But pick 11, that's, oh my God. like you're telling me you're one year into a rebuild and you had to give away your first. Like really it all started a year ago. It was February last year when they moved Lindholm. They followed that up by moving Tanna and Hannafin and like we're talking about a year into this thing. People have to understand you need some level of patience here.
Starting point is 00:48:23 You can't have this hot goal tending and look we're flirting with the playoffs and be like, rebuild's over. Like, well, that's not a rebuild. That's fooling yourself or it's not a rebuild at all. I guess my, because we keep having this conversation, to me it's not, are you fooling yourself into thinking you're a playoff team? It's just the goal he's going to keep you in games you don't deserve to be in. And you're going to be winning games.
Starting point is 00:48:44 You shouldn't be winning, which then moves you up. It gets you into that mucky middle kind of territory. Kind of, yeah. I mean, that's so. You almost love Wolf to be a prime, like, but that's what I'm saying. If he got, if he got hurt one year, you would pick very high. You don't want him to get hurt, but you know that's probably. what would happen. And again, it's kind of back to the Anderson thing. Like,
Starting point is 00:49:05 this decor, you delete his 20, his team leading 25 minutes. Look out. Like it's dusters all over. You want you want to see top pair Jake Bean, go get it. Like it's ugly. So do you trade Dustin Wolf? Absolutely not. You get a king's ransom. Absolutely not. You want to be bad. And you're still a long ways away. He's your. best player for the next decade. You don't move him. You collect good young players. I know. But I get the, it's an interesting conversation.
Starting point is 00:49:40 That best player is going to screw you. You're screwing us, Wolf. Yeah. What a predicament. It's quite a spot to be in. And it was funny too, right? It's not, it is until the 11th pick. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Goes to my shit. Yeah, it is still game 82's over. It's like, oh, shit. Can you imagine some guy like, we thought he was going to be a top five pick you slid all the way to 11 here come the habs with calgary's pick and that kid turns into a star you're like that's how it's going to go remember when they trade it up to get Trevor kid and the pick they traded away was marty brooder we're cursed that's what flame says let's be say yeah yeah big game in philly tomorrow got to get it big game and two points we're going to score some goals you'd fill it to get those two points big one in the universe
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Starting point is 00:53:04 So, Seth Jones kind of went after the game and talked about, Oh, it's stinks here. It's in the same. Maybe it's because you stink, buddy. Well, he going. What? Just like that. Well, and a guy that knew him really well, his old AGM is the guy that is buying stock in Seth Jones,
Starting point is 00:53:21 albeit at a lower price. We could have went and got. We could have went and got Knight. Spencer Knight. For Anderson. Mm-hmm. And then we would have been able to trade Wolf because we would have two. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah. I'd maybe spin night again. checkers. Chess. That's what you're doing. No. Oh, I'm okay. Wasn't sure of the analogy.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yeah, Seth Jones, he's a Florida. Now, remind me, Rhett, it's an old story, you've told over the, I know where you're going. There's a friend of yours to play for the Chicago Blackhawks. Making a good living,
Starting point is 00:53:56 enjoying life as a Chicago Blackhawk, but then gets traded to the Florida Panthers. Sunshine State. So who is that and what was that? I don't need to name names, but I can tell, you this there's one million no doleros saved in taxes by going from old chai town to the sunshine state extra million just a free million like that same game poof on the ice so same league same game
Starting point is 00:54:24 million in my pocket so what yeah so what you had that was sign a new contract did he have to change positions no no same position really yeah yeah so i mean Suppy, right? It gets this deal, but didn't sign a new deal, but it's just that's the tap implications. Nice little bump. Seth Jones, congratulations. A couple million. It's probably making double what soupy was making. Maybe there will be a time you'll look at a third more and be, I'd rather be in Chicago. Blackhawks are pretty good now in Florida. Drake's told us. Kind of over the hill, but sucks. You know what? You can always go back to Chicago in the summer and watch Cubs games all summer.
Starting point is 00:55:00 You could live in Wrigleyville. I would love to know. when of the checks is every two weeks do you get paid like a normal human does i think there's it's one first till the end of the season so it's basically every two weeks just to see okay so here's here's what went into the old checking account from my chicago contract when i was there the same contract but here's my chicago payday now here's my florida payday yeah what the difference there is two weeks every month would be what's interesting is that florida plays in the division with montreal ottawa toronto and you do get taxed for your road games in those constituencies so it's not as simple but yes you're well ahead
Starting point is 00:55:39 in in florida to be sure it's like oh i'm just getting a new sports car every two weeks that's nice that was the first thing i didn't we always hear about all the taps it's tax free this all that makes a big difference that was one of the first ones that i had heard where you're like it's an extra million a year take home holy shit it's not exactly like finding a fiver in the skijack no a little better that's a considerable thing in the couch. So you feel for these GMs that are trying to sign free agents and are up against those types of things.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Hey, Arizona had no state tax. I wanted to go there last year. Well, and either did, we talked to it. Or it was a shite until, it's not a, as simple as,
Starting point is 00:56:19 oh, taxes, you have to be competitive. Run a good organization. You asked, um, Dregor about it on Friday. He was like,
Starting point is 00:56:27 you know, Chicago was this place. No one wanted to go to and then everyone wanted to go to. Like, I understand the money matters and that, You overlook the taxes for the city and success. But the biggest factor for most players has to be a chance to win. Well, if you win, you get paid more.
Starting point is 00:56:42 So you kind of combat the other side of it, plus the atmosphere of play and playing. I was a little surprised to hear that it sounds like Chicago is not on the most wanted. Yeah, that's so when they're winning again, I think they're right back to where they were. The other question I had for him was, is Barard good enough to bring people in? He was like, I'm not sure. Badard, yeah. No, and look, everyone's like, oh, he's a great player. Like, Evanston can bring people into play with McDavid
Starting point is 00:57:09 unless they paid market or above. Like, Zach Hyman took more money and more term to go there. It wasn't a deal to play with McDavid, right? Anyway. Can I say this, that there's some questionable decisions that have been made up north. Yeah. Yes, it looks like they're paying market price.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Did they have to? And with the guys they brought, Hyman's fine, because he's scoring 50 because he's, yeah. but there's some other guys they've brought in and you'd say well they got market price to come play here well yeah because nobody else wanted them you know what I mean skinner and arbor yeah like way to go way I don't know if those are good decisions anyway I know people don't like it it's not everybody some people don't like it oh it's the oiler show I am very captivated by what they're going to do this week because they always you have to do something and there's a new wrinkle too because it's the first
Starting point is 00:58:02 deadline for this management team. You got Stan Bowman and Jeff Jackson, not Ken Holland, who had five consecutive trade deadlines and we knew what to expect from them. And I do think that also, given the recent hiccups and the new management team and the age of the roster and the lack of success of the free agents brought in, you kind of have to have a good run this year to continue to say, Connor, this is still your best place to win because he can go anywhere in a year and a half. And I think Stang's not crazy, but you can't flame out in round one and have a happy chat
Starting point is 00:58:34 with Connor about an extension this summer. I'll say that. Yeah. Regardless of an extension, it's a year of his prime. It's a year of his chance to win. And it's a year where Leon's making eight and a half, not 14.
Starting point is 00:58:49 And Bouchard's making slow our money, not 10 plus. He's got a boosh. Is he still? Is there the Bush bomb? I don't know if there's as many bombs. The Norris discussion is certainly. He's Carlson 2.0.
Starting point is 00:59:07 If you, John Gibson, it seems like there's a bit of kind of smoke there. It's so weird with their goalies, because I think Pickert's a three, and he's giving you what threes give you. They can come up and be great, and they can look awful at times,
Starting point is 00:59:23 not unlike what we saw from Stolar's forever, what we've seen from Alex Lyon, like what David Riddick's given L.A. Like he's a three. And Skinner, they thought was part of a platoon. And they went Jack Campbell, not the guy to bring in, to come in and be a platoon mate with him. So they're still in my mind missing a platoon mate.
Starting point is 00:59:39 But when Skinner's on, he's awesome. It's just that he has these huge swaths where he's awful. Who made the call on the deals this past summer? Is that Jackson? Yeah. And Stan Bowman, I think, was hired even after some of them were made. Summer of Jeff, remember? How smart he was.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I mean, Ken Holland's won a ton. I do feel like this, the Bowman Jackson would have a, I feel like they would have a better grasp as to what the team needs. There was no rush. I still, I have no question that Kenny knows what the hell's going on. But I feel like he was like, I got five years and I'm going to go after it real fast here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:16 He also wouldn't have put himself in a spot to be offer sheet. That was a rookie move. You didn't have, you could put those in a drawer like Lou Lamarillo does for two months or leave an arb case so that you're not, you know, you get another buyout way. There was just a lot of rookie GMing happening this summer. And all for what? So you could get a bought out Jeff Skinner who hasn't fit and a Victor Arvinson who hasn't been good. The least surprising.
Starting point is 01:00:37 That was your day one put ourselves into trouble to get these guys. Wasn't Arvinson last year? No, it was July 1. Yeah. First thing they did was him and Skinner. You're like, what? That's a. And then you get offer sheeted because of it because you're capped out.
Starting point is 01:00:48 If you don't have those guys signed or it's in a drawer for two months, then you don't know what offers you. God. And those are young good players. You almost feel bad for. almost keyword almost feel bad for some of those fans and people because they should be a lot more going it should be a dynasty and that's why it's so critical they have put a bunch of muck into places they didn't need to like what they're missing is exactly philip brobert a young improving right shot top fair defenseman grasp us and he'd look good there right shot to play with nurse but see you got to play checkers not
Starting point is 01:01:26 Not chess, not checkers. You've got to move Anderson somewhere because you can't trade them to the Oilers to help him in a cup. So that it's got to be the. Hall always having a monster year too. It's like, whoa. We're going to trade me. Cloud's having a good year. Fogles having a good year.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Trade me. So the Jones deal. It's Jones and a fourth to Florida for Spencer Knight the goalie who he missed an entire year. He was in the program for a bit. He's also shown flashes of really strong. play. He was out playing Bobber at one point, wasn't it? Yeah, as Alex Lion has two as well as that sounds. This year
Starting point is 01:02:02 2.40, goals against 907, save percentage on a very good team. He's still just 23. Goleys, right? Right. Yeah. So they get and then Chicago get Spencer Knight and a conditional first.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And Shed Jones. They are keeping 26% of Jones's salary. Mixed Jones about a 7.5 million dollar player for it. Yeah, 7.03 I think is what it ended up being. And so that's, that's, pretty much what in this new universe, because this deal has five more years on it, that's three, four pick, which is awesome because if you're slotting Seth Jones there,
Starting point is 01:02:34 he's not going to disappoint you. To me, that's almost, that's one of the biggest parts of this deal. Absolutely. There's five years to go, because we talk about a quadry trade or whatever, right? How you could eat some cadre money. They got five years of $2.47 million a year. And all three retention slots are used for this year. Chicago cannot retain salary under the transaction this year.
Starting point is 01:02:56 I think it was what the ranting one they ate and then maybe that was a stupid one I'm better whatever yeah so for for Florida and I I'm very curious to see now Seth Jones what are you you played for a rough team in
Starting point is 01:03:10 in Columbus you've not been on a very good team in Chicago he's got 27 points in 42 games and you can be a really great player and have leadership skills but not have to be a captain and you can go do that now in Florida that's a really tough spot to be a
Starting point is 01:03:26 Or just step up and be that guy. No, I know. And you said it about two guys today. I just think that's a really bad team. That's a really tough spot. I'm set out about two guys. Well, no. I mean,
Starting point is 01:03:35 two captains where it's like, just be better. And it's like, I don't think guys aren't trying to be better. I don't think Seth Jones just trying to be bad in Chicago. It's just a really shitty team. It's just a really shitty team. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:45 And so now he gets slotted in in a much better spot. So make it easy for me. Then I'll have, if I could only play with Lidstrom, fuck would I be good. You would have been. I would have been. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Very good. And you know what? He'd like playing with you too. God. Dang right. He would have. I'm a good guy. I'm a nice person.
Starting point is 01:04:07 You'd have just been humping his leg. Hey, Nick, Nick, what could I get you, Nick? Nick, what are you going to be in? Nick? This stakes on me, Nick. Hey, me and you. Two feet of five, me and you, Nick.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Is Reggie taking strays here on this? What's wrong? And Ryan's not wrong, but that is the other side of it. at some point. Oh, I signed for nine and a half. I'm supposed to be this good. It's really hard. Remember I asked Frank when he like three weeks ago? When Seth Jones gets traded, what's he going to be? So he's a number one. I was like, you sure? Like I asked him he's going to be a four or five. Like he's going to get paid like a second pair guy and he's going to be used like a second pair guy here. He's not Aaron Eckblad. He's not
Starting point is 01:04:49 even Gustav Forsling at this point. Like he's going to be their third or fourth best defenseman. And that's a great spot for the Florida Panthers to have him. Like that's the thing. Could you want more from him? Absolutely. Are the Florida Panthers way better? Yeah. Like anyway.
Starting point is 01:05:05 I just wonder, have we seen the best Seth Jones yet? Could he go there be put in a, not just make life easier for him, but it's a good team finally. He's not played on a good team ever. I look at OEL going to Florida last year and what it did for him. He played lower down the depth chart, the expectations. of trade and contract weren't there because he'd been bought out by Vancouver and he was a much better version of himself.
Starting point is 01:05:30 And he was also asked to do a little bit less heavy lifting. I think absolutely he'll be good there. I don't know that it's prime Seth Jones. Some of his career years and his mid-20s are pretty damn good. But for the Florida Panthers, this deal is outstanding. Feels like it. Because Matthew Chukh injury, everyone's like, oh, the Panthers are screwed. First thing I thought was, is Chukuk out long enough for them to go LTIR?
Starting point is 01:05:53 Because if so, they're going to add another 9 million. dollar player how old is that 29 30 30 131 somewhere in that I mean that you potentially have him for the back nine there too if he's 30 and you got five more years of him granted it's seven not nine and a half
Starting point is 01:06:08 in terms of millions but yeah I mean it's still seven million if a guy can't play in your top four all of a sudden I'll get the age he's 30 right now I think the Zito's a good GM he's very sharp I like that Bill Zito Billy he's
Starting point is 01:06:24 building around the draft day so his last year here will be in florida excuse me jones it'll be his 35 year old season we'll turn 35 at the beginning of the year yeah and look like his 34 35 35 old seasons might suck the guy that the flames are talking about extending they're going to pay for his 35 36 37 year old seasons i don't know if the flames it's weird talking about it fans no i the flames have said we'd like to get rasmus done and i think we all acknowledge it's like about a six billion bucks How about a four-year deal, Ross? Three-year deal? The age in the year.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Let's wait. Yeah. I do like that you take what they say in the media as gospel. No, I think. All the flames have said that they really want to sign. What are they going to say? I, I, what I'm more of the point of making is that he's going to be a max term player, whether it's in free agency or an extension.
Starting point is 01:07:20 I maybe think part of that too was. maybe the GM was tired of people calling. 100%. So he just told the media, yeah, we're looking to sign them long term. We're not trading them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:32 And again, I'm talking to people around things that, I'm not going to talk about just public facing into a TV camera stuff. I think there is an appetite to sign. I mean, I think the concerns are growing that with the huge cap growth and the season he's having, it might be harder than they would have thought it was in the fall. The other thing that we haven't really talked about is,
Starting point is 01:07:52 is, well, what's he going to be at 35, 36, and where is the team going to be all that? What's the money going to be? What does he think? It's got to be huge. What does he think he's in the next few years? And then do you, do you want to pay that? So the next year, the cap will be around 95. The year after, it's like 104 and a half.
Starting point is 01:08:09 That's the market he's jumping into. And a year after that, it's 114. That will be the only saving grace for Erasmus Anderson's contract over the years that it plays out. Is that it continually will. If the cap. Yes, because the cap should. It's also why his agent will ask for even more than he would have theoretically if his deal was up last summer, right?
Starting point is 01:08:31 Like quite a bit more. And that, and from the flame, if you're a Flames fan and an Anderson fan, you're a fan of getting him at a team discounted deal, not full market value. Yep. And if you're his agent,
Starting point is 01:08:45 you're saying, I just played at 4.55 on a team friendly deal for the last six years. It's time for me to get paid. That's why I think this is. way harder to get done than people are making it out to be we got all week to talk about the trade deadline uh is it's coming trade deadline yeah it's coming up other trades you we only talked about one there are others other two in the pender report if you okay we'll do that leaps win again god they're good are they're bribed up some bad teams for a while though five in a row they've won eight of nine
Starting point is 01:09:15 what oh there's been a couple of ones they're losing to pittsburgh and some other shite teams them tie it late and winning overtime. Their wins. It's not pretty right now. Find it in a way. Find away flames. They can't control their schedule. They can control their work effort again, their work level against the penguins. They won. They did win. Five in a row.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Are you what have we talked about? Are you saying they're not? I'm saying there's a couple of ugly wins. All right. That's all. Um, they're good. We know their GM likes to make a deal. And now he's got a really good team to make a deal with. I wonder what he's eyeballing out there. Me too. You know?
Starting point is 01:09:52 Yeah, this is the spot where Trilliving, I think, would wake up more excited for his job than any other time. When you're a contender coming to the deadline, Mr. likes to make a deal guy, they've got a bit of cap wiggle. They're not huge, glaring, desperate needs so much as tweaks. He can really take a couple of cuts here. I'm here for it.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Yeah, hell yeah. He's not a boring gym. Yeah, I'm here for it. I thought we're going somewhere. I don't think so. I like we're here. Well, reached out. to a couple guys. It's going to be hard to nail down apparently
Starting point is 01:10:24 for our proposed trade deadline show on Friday. There's a lot of people that are actually working real trade deadline shows. I heard that. Not stupid ones. I don't know anyone that is. What are the odds we just realize that nothing's going to happen for Flames and say, just watch Frank show and do a normal show?
Starting point is 01:10:45 No, I think, no. Again, what it is, is we're going to let everybody else do their shows. Right. And we're going to do pizza. beer yes okay opposite george opposite george i was they we're going to tell you who didn't get traded yeah you know who didn't get traded now ryan let's go to the non trade desk what have you got yeah jack hughes still a new jersey devil her second mcginon still in colorado dean and they got a big roadie coming up here really interesting the abs hanging on to mckinan thank you jack jack over at the
Starting point is 01:11:16 the uh the reaction you'll give us the uh let's go to the what is it trade center is that where dregs works The track's got a text just came across. It just came in. Says here. Yeah. Connor Bedard, despite they are selling in Chicago, Badard staying with the Blackhawks.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Dean, I have to interrupt you. We do have some breaking news. Hearing the Calgary flames are going to hold tight with Dustin Wolf. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Ryan. Back to you, Dean. That's,
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Starting point is 01:12:42 pender. And I have a feeling like origin might be on board to be a sponsor of our coverage. We should get them into talk hawk. Yeah. That stack of 15 flats is down to suddenly three or four. We might need to connect with them again. Yeah, I see that's kind of a thing.
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Starting point is 01:14:57 I was wondering like how many timbits is a donut. I think we're going to need pie. Over under, five and a half? Under. What about the long? Probably close though. Is that the one point two?
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Starting point is 01:16:55 Flames, a lot of games. Boy, three and four days, if my math is correct. The latest yesterday's effort in Carolina, which was excellent, the efforts, just the, the measuring stick was quite tall. Yeah, offensively, they're in one, boys. Dustin Wolf, Dregs teamed overtime loss. I do agree with that headline from your boy, Flash. Dog in the photo or cat?
Starting point is 01:17:23 It's been now one goal in the last three games for the Calgary Flames. four so far on this four game road trip. They've allowed 11. Their power plays clicking at 9% on the roadie. They've scored three goals at even strength versus allowing nine. The one saving grace, their penalty kill clicking at around 87 and
Starting point is 01:17:41 gross. Not a great confidence meter road trip. It's a gauntlet. It's a crushing defeat. Jeez, that hurts. Even though that's the one where they got the point. Yeah. It does.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Yeah. It did. In fairness, you could probably put crush on either of those other two. I was listening to the radio and going into yesterday's game. They were discussing that after the last two defeats, clearly the line juggling and the changes, they're going to be shot out of a cannon. That cannon saw one shot in the first period versus 12 loud.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Scoring chances were many to not. No, it's probably you, hey, those are facts. Those things were said. They had one shot on net in the first period. From a, like a scoring chance? Not a great angle. I was doing the Florida game.
Starting point is 01:18:38 At one point, the shots were 36 to 9. That's a 4 to 1 margin. Good two. Ratio of shots or just the number of shots. I don't know how fearful opponents are about game planning for the flames right now with essentially one line that might score and three that aren't threatening to score at all. I think you know how that. Which line do you want to play against?
Starting point is 01:19:04 Not the back line, you know, the Frost line? You want the Rooney line? Don't care. I'm good. Whatever you want to do, coach. Now there is this one line with Conjure. Yeah. Look, they're better than this.
Starting point is 01:19:14 They're better than this. They are. And maybe tomorrow it's getting back. The Flames hockey. To the me and getting back to where they should. Yeah, they're due some puck luck, I suppose. The other thing is they're, they just play three of the best teams in the league. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:28 You could argue for it. But I think the last three especially, those are battle. hard in playoff contenders. Well, the nice thing about it is we told you at the end of this, like Friday we'll have a clarity. We'll have it all figured out. Yeah, and they're in the playoffs. Clarity.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Clearly, playoff team. Yep. The good news, they are four points on the table these next two games. How in the F does it feel like they've lost forward into the playoffs? It did feel that way. Like, what if I told you, they scored one goal in three games and got one loser point in there? I'm like, ooh, they're probably selling now.
Starting point is 01:19:58 No, they're in a playoffs. Yeah, they actually leapfrog Vancouver. Geez, how's that possible? Wow. Come on, Utah. Get it going, you idiots. Yes, the Utes. And the blues.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Ah, the blues are coming. Jack likes the blues. It seems to the blues for terror. Okay, so this is trade week. Trade rumors abound. That means insiders talking about it. Pike bomb, Pike bomb. It's a Pike bomb.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Pike bomb, baby, me. That's not a Pike bomb. Yeah, I was wondering about that. Pike, what are you trying? Pike was listening to Elliot Friedman. Friedman bomb. It's a fridge bomb. And again, lots of things going to be talked about this time of year.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Things that are talked about don't all come to fruition. I think they're trying to find a place for Miramanoff. Now, I know a great place for them. It's called the Wranglers or the press box. But I think they're looking for a place in the NHL from to play. And you kind of feel for Muramadov. He's never really had a crack at the right side of the third pair because Ball has been so damn good in there all year.
Starting point is 01:21:02 I don't really feel for him. Or you cannot feel for him too, which is fine. He's been given tons. He had a lot of runway in the fall. He got a lot of weaker exposure, which is good and bad. It means you're playing next to a very good defenseman, and it's also way more than you should be chewing up. And so is there a team that could use some depth on the right side?
Starting point is 01:21:23 I'm not expecting a windfall. He is absolute depth. He's a number seven on the right. Eighth depth? Like, oh my God, we have to. to play him depth. Like, let's say you're carrying seven defensive men of four or lefties.
Starting point is 01:21:34 He's depth on the right. He's your eight. Hanley's a guy that's been mentioned as well. I've actually like Joel, Joe Hanley. I agree. He's been battling. And that's a guy where you look at what he's making and you look at his age and you look at teams
Starting point is 01:21:53 and say, is this guy better than if we run into two injuries in the playoffs? If you're going to make a long run, you're probably well in the blue line. Who's the guy on the cheap we can bring in that can give us 15 good minutes. But that would be like the for Bort Flames deals? Sure.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Fansonberg. Yeah. Oscar Fantenberg. A fourth rounder for a depth defenseman. Maybe a caffeine-free Fantinberg. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Other news. Oh, look at this. The flames are buyers. This being reported. Pike bomb. It's a Frank Sarah Valley retweet bomb. Why is it?
Starting point is 01:22:34 Because I don't know who Anthony DeMarco is. I'm learning, but Frank retweeted this young man. He does some stuff at Daily Face Off and at a sports talk radio station. We shall not mention in Canada. But it sounds like the flames have been reaching out to talk about Brandon Carlo, who is a very interesting player for a lot of reasons. Team has yet to dive into details with Calgary is interested.
Starting point is 01:22:55 There's the card. If you like the nerd stuff or not, what it will tell you is a very good penalty killer. He plays some tough minutes. He doesn't get to play with a lot of good players. And not a lot good offensive is happening on the ice when he's. there. He makes 4.1 for another two years beyond this year, and he actually just turned 28. So
Starting point is 01:23:10 why would that work? Is a right shot defenseman? I liked him when he played with Chara. I don't like him when he's playing with Zedorov. I'll add that. And that's who he's playing with now. Pike summed it up here, 28. It's probably appropriate
Starting point is 01:23:27 this time, actually. He's under contract for next year and the year after and a no trade 10 teamer. Wow. you know who's on that list Winnipeg Keep going West
Starting point is 01:23:41 yeah South Red deer sea bass sea bass Air Dray Calgary on Carlos no trade list
Starting point is 01:23:52 come on let us know let us know now I'll say this like if you were going to say we've got Wolf we're not going to be
Starting point is 01:24:00 a sexy offensive club but we are going to be a team that competes based on defensive play and structure. Brandon Carlo's a nice guy at. He's a good defensive defenseman when he's played with better players. He's been excellent.
Starting point is 01:24:12 And McKenzie Weger, albeit a right shot defenseman, has played most of his career on the left playing with A, Aaron Ekblad, and B, his first two years in Calgary with Tannavin and Rastres Anderson on the right side. This is a recipe for disaster. It really could be. So this is a spot where it's like,
Starting point is 01:24:26 oh, that sounds like a great guy to add. And you're like, wait, you have to give up assets for this. Well, and just painful hockey to watch. Yeah, we're not that good. In the era of high speed, high octane. But our goalie's good and we got some. We're going to have shot through the freight goal. And these picks that you got to build the future, you'll spend one to get this guy who will be gone.
Starting point is 01:24:47 And we'll take this prospect and that pick and that young guy there too. And then we'll give you Carlo. Too much check. And again, lots of talks about Connie's doing his job figuring out what the price of guys is. I would put the likelihood of this happening at low. Feels low. Yes. thank you.
Starting point is 01:25:04 So like, where would Brandon Carlo be more desired? Calgary or like you said, Dallas is the other thing, right? Because you can say, hey, look,
Starting point is 01:25:13 they're good players. There's term left. It's team friendly in the sense that, yeah, he's a top for guy making 4.1. How would you open a contender for this guy? Why? If it's Mason Lurai,
Starting point is 01:25:25 young defenseman. Yeah. Okay. And if Dallas was much better, maybe they would move a lower right, but they're not good. And I think they're keeping the low rise and they're moving the,
Starting point is 01:25:34 Yeah, yeah. Feels that way. So it's interesting. Wildcard standards, we'll show you them again. Flames are actually in one here, despite scoring just one goal in their last three games. They somehow stole a point.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Well done, fellas. Don't mean that sarcastically. It's a gauntlet run. Okay, they have one more regulation win in Vancouver. That's the tie break. Blues are coming. One point back, but the games played aren't helping. Utah two points back.
Starting point is 01:25:57 They should have beat St. Louis in St. Louis. Well, when do they play that? Must wins? God. Damn it. Two games set. To be fair, any two games this year they lost that they won. We put them in a very different spot, but the blue ones.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Just one win. They feel like proverbial eight-pointer, doesn't it? Oh, my God. Nobody wants to listen. People listen, but they don't hear. I don't know why they don't listen. I'll say that much. Now, here's the thing we talked about, too, though.
Starting point is 01:26:23 While the flames are 16th in the NHL, suddenly two points from a top 10 pick. That's where Utah is. Shitt burger spot to be. 16th. You can do it. Dustin, you were late for practice. You're going to have to sit this one tonight. I know some boys in blue.
Starting point is 01:26:43 I got this. You put the sting on? I got this. You got to get that extension done. I'm going to have them pulled over on the way to the game. The registrations rock. Where's your sticker on the license plate? Or if he stopped like Dion stops for a Starbucks, leaves the car running.
Starting point is 01:27:00 I'll still. You'll stop. deal it. Did he lose a car that way? I'll talk to noodles, figure out how to get it done. Yeah, he was on his way to the rink. Stop for his starbees. Walked out and watched his car.
Starting point is 01:27:11 He came out and the vehicle was gone. He was watching it drive away. Yeah, he watched it drive away. I was actually, oddly enough, I was in that area when he came into the rink that night. Oh, boy. Rattled. He's going to say bewildered. Late to get to the game.
Starting point is 01:27:31 And just had his car. Was Daryl the coach? Please tell me Daryl's the coach. I think so now. Might have been the different side. Yeah, it wouldn't have been the coach, right?
Starting point is 01:27:40 No, that's true, because he came in and Daryl moved upstairs by then. It might have been Brent, if anyone. Didn't you have one where? He won't, no,
Starting point is 01:27:47 because Daryl was done after. Play fair. He did the one year. Did he come back for after? He did one year? Play fair out there. Was he straight upstairs? No,
Starting point is 01:27:55 you're right. He was straight upstairs, but. So Jimmy was coached and we lost to Anheim? Yeah. That one sucked. Yeah. He was crushed.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Ryan, So the question is, We should call Jim and see if he remembers. What? Remember that year after the lockout when you guys had that great home record and then lost in the worst game seven maybe of all time? Yeah, that's a bad one. Woof.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Sorry, Ryan, back to you. So can the flames make the playoffs? Well, our good friends at Bet365, in fact, you can go ahead and look at the odds. Let's look. Look at it last week. And after scoring one goal in three games, those odds did get better. Plus 320 now, despite being in a playoff spot on March 3rd to make said playoffs. So the odds getting better.
Starting point is 01:28:35 If you want to bet on them getting in, you'll make more. They think that the chances are slimmer now. And the books are saying less likely they'll get in. Because again, one out of a possible six points, that ain't three, four, five or six. Yeah, but it looks like it's them or the Canucks there on this. I wish they had a. Well, there are some other teams who are not showing because St. Louis and Utah aren't on that screen.
Starting point is 01:28:57 But those would be the two teams chasing. Will they finish in the bottom 10? I wish 365 had. one of those. I don't know why they would, but couldn't make a request. Good friends there. Seth Jones trade happened. We showed you the deal.
Starting point is 01:29:11 We'll show you how they're able to do it. Where do they get all this cap space from? Well, you remember that young, uh, that young, aggressive cocky player, Matthew Kachukh, the American played in the OHL for the photographer. There he is. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Extended period of time. We hope to get him back for the playoffs. Can I ask a question? Let me just finish the quote because that's the start of it. And then he goes, is that Zito? Really? That was Bill Zino. Wow.
Starting point is 01:29:40 I've never heard of do that even after the wind. Very diabolical. Yeah. What were you going to say? My question is, Four Nations was played. Yeah. The guy that went on the IR there.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Intured up. Suited up for that game. Yeah. If you're an American, a guy that you've revered, probably he's, right, like the game before. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Look at this. do you squint a little bit? I mean, I'm not the first person to bring this up. Is a Panthers fan or who are you? No, I'm saying if you're a team USA fan going into a must win, one and done against team Canada, and you haven't played or stepped on the ice since. Yeah, why were you dressed?
Starting point is 01:30:25 Should you take it? Kyle Conner sitting in the press box. Jack, where are we on Mike Sullivan? Is he the greatest coach of all time or is he back on the Mars mission? Yeah, back on that mission. Oh, God. I can't believe. Things happen fast, guys.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Well, things happen fast. You don't just go from coaching NHL to being an astronaut. That's not easy. We got more trades. Ryan Lindgren is heading to Colorado. Actually, we have something else before that. I think we do. Charlie Lingren.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Oh, we got two Lindgren. Chuck. Brothers. Really? Yep. Come on. Truth. Another goofy goalie.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Look at this. Catch him with his right hand. What a weirdo. Three years, nine million bucks. They keep the weirdo tandem together. Him and Logan Thompson. I got a right-hand goal. Does Charlie Lindgren good?
Starting point is 01:31:05 he was great last year. Beat out Kemper. Okay, so just bear with me. Who did Vancouver just sign? They signed Kevin Lankan. So how much? 4.5 times 5. Yeah, if I had to pick one to win a game today,
Starting point is 01:31:21 I'm probably picking Lindgren. They might be buying some sort of an upside in the long term with Lankan, but you're right. But if he'd have signed this. That's a nice number. That deal would have made more sense for Lankin right now that you mentioned that.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Isn't that, right? Like, isn't that if they, if they had come out and said, yeah, we signed Lankinen to three years, nine. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. I see what you're doing. Good time. Good idea. Thomas was 5.85 plus the three.
Starting point is 01:31:46 It's a tidy little number for your net. It really is. If it works. Elite net minding for the next three years for under 10 million, that's going to be a good thing for you. So Kevin Lankinen is 29. I don't think Lennon is going to be much older. Is it all? You're doing a comparison?
Starting point is 01:32:03 I just want to see the age difference because that would be one thing. Well, you, I think you kind of broached because you brought up Lankinen comparing maybe the contracts and stuff. So maybe it's a good. Lingerd's two years older at 31, but I, yeah, I'm kind of with you. That deal makes a lot more sense to me than Lankinen one. My eyebrows were raised, Dean. Yeah, Lincoln.
Starting point is 01:32:23 Did you know Kevin Lankton did not have a job on September 1st? Did you know, hey, did you know? I spread this week that your buddy, Elias Pederson. has one shot or less in each of his last nine hockey games. How many games? Nine. Bring them back. He'll fit right in with our high flying offense.
Starting point is 01:32:45 J.T. Miller, six goals, six assists in ten games for the Rangers. Good. How's Rick Tock and feel about that? I'm sure he picked Elias over JT knowing the way he plays. Well, and Quinn Hughes got injured again. I don't know if it's coming up with the Pinda report. It's a day. Didn't play last nine minutes of the game.
Starting point is 01:33:00 That's a goosh. Nine. Yeah. More trades get to him. Let's do it. We need to trade. Come on, Jack. Make a trade.
Starting point is 01:33:13 There's Ryan, not Charlie Lindgren. I don't know the handedness of Ryan in terms of what he catches. He doesn't say, hey. But he's a defenseman. Yes, he is. Jimmy V.C. And the rights to Hank Kemp. Anytime you can get a good old Hank, you take him.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Hank Kemp. Man, I had a good Hank. Kempf on the weekend. Had to run, get a tissue right away. That was close. Hey, Kemp! They'll get his rights. He's playing college, I believe. Yussa Parson goes the other way. He hasn't quite
Starting point is 01:33:44 been a great fit there, the former National Predator. And Calvin Dahan. A couple of picks. A couple of picks as well, second and a fourth. And they're eating salary, I believe, half of Lindgren's money. So what are the Rangers doing? They're trying to get in. They're just shuffling deck seats in the Titanic. So it is? I mean, all the guys
Starting point is 01:34:03 that they really are big and important. that aren't playing well have no moves. So the Rangers are kind of in one. But they are playing better than they were. I'd rather have Lindgren than Calvin the Hon. Yeah, absolutely. That's why Colorado did this. Yeah, but why.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Yeah, but why did it? I see why Colorado is. Yeah, no, I agree. Depth forward who's, and shore up the defense a little bit. Sorry, Calvin, maybe you're the better man, Calvin. And Adam Fox has hurt too. Remember that.
Starting point is 01:34:29 This is an odd deal to make it this time, given that information. Another trade. Another trade. Whoop. Gus Nyquist. going to St. Paul. Loves the Pickerel.
Starting point is 01:34:38 Second rounder and there's cash retention by Nashville as well. Hates Carrie Underwood. Yeah. Loves Northern Pike. The Northern Pike. It's a great deal for him. She's pretty? She just looks that way.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Yeah. That's right. I think she is pretty though. Real pretty. Yeah. The girl I went to school with sisters was the girl that she was she was the girl that she was singing. Oh, yeah? Really.
Starting point is 01:35:00 I think she's a little, uh, she's hot. Oh, yeah? Yeah. is my, I'm not going to say it. Dean. Less logical, not more logical, one of those ones. I'm not sure. Yeah. Logical, I think. That's one, yeah. Because she's married to old Mike Fisher. Rational or, er.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Who that F for you to judge? Oh, geez, we start a court here. Chuck a nerve. Sorry, Ryan, back to you. Thanks, Dean. Alex Ovechkin. Not Dean's personal takes. Another pit report, another goal for Alex Ovachkin. He scored.
Starting point is 01:35:33 This M.F is 11 away and it's still filling the net like he's 22. It's unbelievable. We got to get Dino and Washington Capitol's helmet so we can wear it. Alex Ovechkin is on pace to break Wayne Gretzky's goals record as early as April 2nd at Carolina. How similar your be beards are. I was just going to say, look at this. I mean, you guys have to say, if anybody should be wearing the buck, it'll be you. Have you guys ever been in the same room at the same time?
Starting point is 01:35:57 You could be Ovi for. Does it dominate the Halloween? How's your Russian? after a few beers it's not bad vodka maybe let's keep moving tonight's games we showed you ovi get a hatcher get actually i'm sick of this
Starting point is 01:36:13 get it over with i don't need to and then linger all year and it'll be a do you have to well there is right there there's your hatcher chance today you're at home against ottawa have some fun oh old mark will shut the door maybe i'll mark someone else 630 that's a weird start time isn't that other games tonight Sabres and Habs
Starting point is 01:36:33 good one battle Florida boys this is the best robber in the NHL today I'm telling you is it still so nasty it's unreal I was not surprised at all it was Hagel and Kachuk fighting the preseason games of Ed Braw's You weren't surprised Hagle was fighting Well when in warm up
Starting point is 01:36:49 Cichuk and Hagle were chirping you're like that's Battle Florida those guys hate each other So you weren't surprised after Kachuk Ryan was the one guy who saw it coming I did not see a fight coming when the fight did happen and you're like, of course it's or you could just say it clearly makes sense in hindsight. That's what I meant.
Starting point is 01:37:04 I did not try to suggest. Okay. It sounded like there was some forecasting going on. No, but they did on the pregame show, see them chirping and you're just like, those Florida teams hate each other. I did not expect to fight, to be clear, but they do hate each other.
Starting point is 01:37:17 I still think it's the best rivalry in the league. Another good one. Islanders Rangers. Great rivalry. Ooh. Pot, bad, such. You said you're expected there was a fight? We'll see.
Starting point is 01:37:27 Rempay's on one team. sharks leased tonight great rivalry great rivalry uh it's the what alexander godinuck battle what who who did we got sure corluck uh that one's on prime we'll show you in a moment and kings hawks the nightcap hawks actually spanked this the uh ducks the other night last night last night the surprise there what the king who won chicago beat anaheim and anahs been rolling two nights ago yeah my boy jackson lecombe okay let's keep moving go get zegra chicago my boy Jackson Lacombe picked him up in fantasy we're homies now
Starting point is 01:38:02 Monday day pride tough tough dog when you see that photo and you're like oh my goodness like what what expression would come to your mind I don't know damn boy you know what you remember the damn boy of course I do yeah I didn't
Starting point is 01:38:25 sorry you know what what you're talking to me no back to you Ryan back to me dude No, I was thinking of your comparison to Coronado. Oh, the shooter shoot guy. This guy, if he gets the puck on his stick, just enough time, he, good chance he's going to score.
Starting point is 01:38:43 So we mentioned that on the other show where we're like, yeah, you know, like Coronado is probably a fine skater, but not a great skater. And so people got at me on the old social media. So I went in, I went into the NHL edge data. And he is a much better than average skater by speedburst, average speed. I was impressed. well and he's also maybe at that age for what he averages he may have been a better skater well better than now sure
Starting point is 01:39:08 I do they're similar assets the right shot I think your point was just in terms of the shot that's what makes him a lead I can really shoot it guy can shoot it uh you know who could shoot it and pass it and score it and is done with this league that he's too good for zane perak becomes first ever oh w hale defense with multiple 30 goals season Thank God he can go to college next year. He can't. He signed with the flames. Signed players cannot go to college. Damn, boy.
Starting point is 01:39:39 And so now we really get to live the most idiotic rule in all of hockey. The rule where you're not allowed to graduate from a league you're too good for, despite it being good for the NHL team that he signed by and the player who needs a challenge in development. That is a big challenge. Is if you sign an NHL contract. You're deemed a professional. You're not an amateur. I thought.
Starting point is 01:40:03 now in fairness you'll be 20 make the NHL and start your career it's his 19 year old season and he will not be allowed to play more than 10 NHL games without staying up for the full year and cannot be sent to the American league it's not ideal the HL be a great spot for him next year and then you can bring him up when the time's right back to the O is the worst spot for him on pace for about 110 points credible player what about Europe you're up a good spot you can loan him you could You could loan them to a team in Europe. Loam? Loan. Loam, great town, just outside of Oslo, I think. And known for that incredible topsoil? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:45 Just really fertile grass you've ever seen. Unbelievable. Yeah. Uncle of mine had a in-ground sprinkler company over there. And over fist. Yeah. Good for him. Now, because Austin Matthews did that, right?
Starting point is 01:40:59 Austin was not drafted yet. And Austin had a late birthday. So he was drafted as an 18-year-old of 70s. Austin played two years NGDP. And then went to Europe. It is 18-year-old season. He played in Swiss A, which is a really unique set of circumstances
Starting point is 01:41:15 because he was actually 18 at the time of it. So he was not playing as a minor foreigner. He was an adult playing in Switzerland. There was a lot of weird circumstances that allowed that to happen. He did not go to Everett, who I believe held his rights in the Western League. You know what?
Starting point is 01:41:32 Conny's got, he's on it. Connie'll know what to do. I have confidence that they'll know what to do with Perk. This is just, it's too much. I can't. I mean, look how you can't take my GM head off. Look how your hat's sitting on your head. I know that's the GM have.
Starting point is 01:41:45 You look, he shoveled. Hey. How's the tread deadline going? Visit in Big D. Stop in at the Bruce. Have yourself a steak. Oh, this trade deadline's killing me. I don't even know what to hell.
Starting point is 01:42:00 What's the guy supposed to get for two million box retention on a two-year deal while eating up a retention slot. This has to be our Friday. Is this our show? Yes, Friday. We have to have a tilt. We'll have to have our GM hats. So we can analyze the trades.
Starting point is 01:42:19 But without our GM hats on how are we really equipment to do it? Just shudder, yeah. Just eat. Yeah. I'm talking about trades. Okay. Another show for that.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Sorry, Ryan. Deal. So do you eat this. They're trying some new rules in spring training. Easy. Get a sip, would you? Cut us, Mike. So good.
Starting point is 01:42:37 I'm good. Nope. Fox News. Just cut the mics. You would recall in the minors, you've been allowed to challenge balls and strikes. Oh, yeah. I loved it. When I was in Buffalo last year, they were unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:42:49 And it happens quick. It's not like the NHL where they're going to spend eight minutes being idiots watching NFL football at World Control in Toronto and they get back to you later when the game's over. Listen to how quick this happens and also fun little interaction as the umpires mic dapser. Everyone knows what's going on. Good. ball just misses Brett Sullivan going to challenge. Challenging call.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Brett has been expert at the ABS system. The call is surprisingly correct. He dunks out himself. I'll tell you I was at. We told you. Mike Malinski, one of our
Starting point is 01:43:25 That's Mike Malinski, the Empire. Apparently got a great sense of humor. I do believe that. That's awesome. It was amazing, though, when I was at one of those ball games. with the Jay's farm team in Buffalo, how often the batters would check it? Ops were 95% right? Really? That good.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Let's hear it again. I just love that. It's self-deprecating, which everyone enjoys. Or Jack. He's got to call it up. Sorry, Jack. Just deleted this. He's going to go find it in the internet.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Good. Breaking Ball just misses Brett Sullivan, get a challenge. Brett has been expert at the ABS system. them. The call is surprisingly correct. Oh, we told you. Mike Milinski, one of our famous.
Starting point is 01:44:17 Oh, Michael, Michael Motors. Oh, the old Milinski's, they've done that for ages. They're always over the years. Now, you know, Rett's an alpinist, right? He's a mountaineer. He's an alpah. Alpha, what? You're an alpha, too, for sure.
Starting point is 01:44:28 Oh, yeah. But you're going to be an alpha. You were really showcasing your alpha stuff out of the ski resort this weekend. Well, I was drunk. You're parisiling. You're riding. You're riding. cable
Starting point is 01:44:39 that's pretty good right well you're just getting started here because you're sponsored by Red Bull right you're really good you're ripping through this nice of the village I'm going to pull in the bar sail we put some speed
Starting point is 01:44:56 right would you oh through the tunnel back flip no big deal for that parachute backed out we'll see you later folks oh no a tunnel that that big slow you down line cross there we go
Starting point is 01:45:13 top of the roof the blink and loop nice day you think would be some lots of Canada of the USA see you later boys oh that looks like fun right there get the F away from you to just that's pretty nice that's pretty cool yeah
Starting point is 01:45:34 good work right you're really improving I'm I got this sneaky spot where there's lots of snow and I don't tell any don't tell now that's kind of like a fishing hole you wouldn't want to tell people right it's down the lake that way so yeah the island or by the power lines there's a there's a kind of a creek that runs in there because you had the shoveler at the fishing hole and and i just found this video this must have been from the fall there she is she's got the little bait there i don't take the shuffle of fish watch this i don't know we fish this is just a terrible idea
Starting point is 01:46:08 I'm hoping this isn't Florida A tarpon That's That's horrible You could lose an arm I'm just going to say I have teeth, I'm not worried about that
Starting point is 01:46:23 Why did you need the hot dog To get the tarpon So it wouldn't have eaten your finger Maybe Maybe Oh my God that thing's It looked like it was willing to do it if you wanted That's fair
Starting point is 01:46:35 I didn't know what I was experimenting But it wasn't a fish of that side Oh, Tarpin are big. Fishing Tarpin had it on for 45 minutes. Florida Keys, middle of the night, for some reason, these guys wanted to. Yeah. It's nice fish.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Bring it in, Dean. Smash. Hammerhead. Whoa. Gone. Really. Take me to shore. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:56 So probably what happens. You get a hook in there, a little blood. And the shark's like, thank you. There's dinner. Midnight snack. Saw this video guys were sturgeon. Oh, yeah. It's like a whale.
Starting point is 01:47:07 It's insane. A hundred years old. Yeah, river. Crazy. Huge. Big animals, Jack. Huge. Jack, we're not giving enough respect to mountain goats,
Starting point is 01:47:20 so we're here to change that today. Look at these crazy asses. Is this where the falls? No. Hope not. Look at these guys. You see how nimble this is? This is Dean, eluding a hippo.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Full speed. Very crafty. Sure footed. Jeez. strong calves killing it they're not heel planting good work yeah there's no heel strikes here look at this all toes all the the balls of their hooves the hooves have balls save god balls i saw this this again a video last week
Starting point is 01:47:55 like mountain goats or mountain lions with the rams or whatever the bird knocks it off well that's even worse have you seen those why is it worse i was i didn't show you that i was showing you how nimble. The big kind of whatever comes in. We need some of the goes guys. Comes in, tickles him in the ribs. Hey, you. Tehe.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Don't don't. I'm going to fall. Oh, and then he falls all the way down. Oh, no. What was that egg that fell off the wall? Humpty dumpy.
Starting point is 01:48:28 Yeah. They weren't putting this one back together again. All the Kings are. Then the bird came down and he was like, well, since some kind of hungry. A guy could eat. guy could eat don't send us goat
Starting point is 01:48:42 Greg please I'm worried no haggis I do haggis you hate it for but I mean you're gonna get Bon Ton's gonna send
Starting point is 01:48:51 a bunch of meat over it's not gonna be half fast what's he done that he's never done before because he's not gonna give us I have no idea it's only the best stuff there go ahead in a while I got a lot of ridicule
Starting point is 01:49:02 for the Pender report last week so we're gonna get back to the basis this gets a snake video here let's go jacks just not what we were looking for as anaconda i believe this is the shotler i believe when you're younger no i hate things you're at here right there too so honestly if you hold it up here she might even shoot him and grab it that's the weird we have a bunch of wild things of here and burns and burns and uh ice the shovel out on a day where are you put him in there
Starting point is 01:49:38 How is that best? Just put it in the footer back in. You nailed. How was that? It's literally held a 15-foot anaconda I've ever had before. Yeah, that's right. That's something funny to say.
Starting point is 01:49:53 No one knew where you were going with it. That's, all right? You have a snake joke for us? This is terrible. That's really bad. Hey, let's go for a swim in Florida. Maybe a night swim, shall we? Yeah, Seth.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Let's go for a swim. Come on. Get your snorke on. That's going. Let's go for Swift. Oh, this music's ominous, Red. I don't know. It's a bad. Oh, there's a crock eating a turtle.
Starting point is 01:50:21 Gotcha. There's a gator, I should say. And oh, that's just a snake. Get out of here. Those things aren't supposed to be there. Oh. An invasive species, Dean. What are those stupid snakes in the Everglades?
Starting point is 01:50:34 There are many natural snakes, but the ones ruining the ecosystem are like Burmese, Kill it all. Pets the people brought over. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Burns. Yeah, it was in Vietnam for this war thing. I came back with this pet snakes.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Next, finally, I do want to tell you this. We're not necessarily men of the theater. Speak for yourself. But I, on Friday night, went to the debut of King James and have never felt more seen as a psychotic sports fan. It is a play about LeBron James, but yet not at all about LeBron James. entirely about being a sports fan. The Margatha Cohen theater is cozy and incredible.
Starting point is 01:51:15 I don't do. The Margitha Cohen. Marfa Cohen. Marfa, self-promoted. This was unreal. We are a sports show. If you're a sports fan,
Starting point is 01:51:23 not often does it overlap with theater. This is really cool. If you have tickets to events that you'd like to give us for free, for us to then, in turn, promote your event. I, there's no. Ryan. dot pinder at free stuff. com.
Starting point is 01:51:38 promise of promotion of something I was just thoroughly impressed. It's just a good human. And you know what? It was really cool. A quality review. Yeah. A show about King, about LeBron James,
Starting point is 01:51:48 but not at all about LeBron James. Not because it's about life, man. How did it now is, well, that's your interpretation. It was cool. We're having some fun. It was really cool.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Are you having to pay some royalties to, how are you able to use the likeness in the name? It might be sold out. It might not. Oh, for King James? I don't know. Yeah, that's clearly him. Because I feel like if I'm in LeBron, Inc.
Starting point is 01:52:11 Yeah. I'm curious as to what we're doing here. So you're doing what and making how much using my life story? What won me over? Because Haysom is the, I believe the producer, director, whatever, and invited me to go. And he said, look, Stephen Brunt went to Hamilton or debuted. You were invited.
Starting point is 01:52:28 He said, Brunt absolutely loved it. Loved it, loved it, loved it, loved it. But Brunt isn't a man of the arts. He is a man of the theater. You're an idiot. Anyway, if that floats your boat, more information on the old Googles. It float my boat, but I wasn't invited. You're invited.
Starting point is 01:52:43 He'll leave tickets for you. You'd be happy to. It's a great, great time. I am back to you. Not for everyone. It's 16 plus with strong language, not for everyone. Why don't we go as a group? We never do anything as a group.
Starting point is 01:52:55 That's true. I told Dino about this. He was like calling the Boston. Yeah, who wants to go to Boston or Montreal to cover Canada, USA best. That's a poor decision by you, by the way. Was it? Yes. I was fine with it.
Starting point is 01:53:07 Oh, I think you missed out. I think deep down, you know that that was a one-off type of scenario in your life. And you may have had to suffer through him. Oh, again, done. You're done. You know, no. Period. You know what I loved about it is the deciding thing with the powers that be?
Starting point is 01:53:24 We're like, yeah, but any flame's going to be on the team? I'm like, what are you talking about? It's Canada, USA. It does nothing to do with the Calgary Flames. No one is going to do. We are a sports show. People are cheering for Canada because we, live in Canada.
Starting point is 01:53:37 Can he's passing us off as a sports show. We've never mentioned. That is wrong before. Now again, and just because I noticed these things, Frank was at the game, the championship game, Canada, US. Tyler Yeremtruck, he went as well, was not at the game. He was at a bar and establishment. They're doing shows there.
Starting point is 01:53:58 Because you have to get accreditation to get in. Oh, so there weren't. So I would have gone to Boston to watch it on. TV with Tyler in the with him who made the right invited at all like I wasn't even on the list you're absolutely invited yeah remember you you were here
Starting point is 01:54:18 and then everyone went for lunch and then you didn't come you're like what's this meeting going to be like it's a lot of they said we'll be back from Best Buy in an hour and a half no oh the show's over okay well we're off to Best Buy we'll see you at lunch what that's good news
Starting point is 01:54:35 Montreal and Boston aren't fun anyway so Anyway, back to you. Back to you, Dean. All right. Been a report. Billichonde. Great job. Your dealership for life.
Starting point is 01:54:45 The snakes are. I think you should find some Italian hockey league, soccer. You know what I'm seeing? On the algorithm more, there's this ice hockey in India that's going crazy.
Starting point is 01:54:58 People are loving it. Shade it because it's so hot and they've got probably some level of refrigeration. They play. But it was. Yeah. And so it's outdoors. Big sports.
Starting point is 01:55:08 in the hills and people are going nuts. They love it. It's got to make the better. Do you like the more abstract sports? Well, we wouldn't want to hear about that. You know what's big? Snakes and rabbits. That cricket.
Starting point is 01:55:20 Huge. Cricket. A league that's coming over to North America was going to take over. Oh, T20? Yeah, Big Bash. We almost had a guy on the show. Would you like this? For a sports show.
Starting point is 01:55:31 The coach of the T20 Canada national team. Yeah, what sport is it? Cricket. No, thank you. No. It's a tough son. T20. Relax. What sport is that?
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Starting point is 01:57:02 It's all right. Flyers tomorrow. Why is it all right? He's a busy guy. He'll catch a boss. for Christ's sakes. Don't work hard. Don't be good even though you're paid to be good,
Starting point is 01:57:14 because it might be too hard, and it's too hard if you're not in the right spot. And work hard, but if you worked... Did you ever get him that bottle of whiskey? Maybe he's just sour with you. Probably is, man. Three years now, four years?
Starting point is 01:57:25 That was your fault. No, he was not. Peated whiskey? Is that what it was? Wheated. Peated. Wheated? Peated.
Starting point is 01:57:34 I think it was weeded. What? Oh. I don't know. Check and see if there's some trades or what do you do? Maybe. You know, Brandon Carlo yet or what? Can't wait.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Two tall guys, ball and Carlo. Yeah, because we're, twin towers up. I'll bet you, it might, they might be referred to as the twin towers. Can you do that still? Oh,
Starting point is 01:57:58 every time. You kidding me? Because I know it was a thing. Ball and him. You'll remember Colin Cluchet and Chris Dingman. This is where you tell me you beat the piss out of Colin Clucche. right you're paying attention he's not paying attention no it distracted i got an appointment in an hour get the hell out of here is it an appointment to be the twin towers got their asses kicked by the twin
Starting point is 01:58:21 towers from saskatoon belak and mccalister come on down dingman and and call in clucay that's right you smack you about a little you'd tell him that 365 presenting sponsor of this show of afterburner of which i will be a part of tomorrow night. Philly. Philadelphia? I watched Willie Plet. Absolutely smash his stick
Starting point is 01:58:48 over the back of Stefan's head last night. I was watching fights. Oh. Oh, it was a gooder. Yeah, Willie Plet was no messing around. Screw loose. You know what, the blonde locks? You think, I'll have maybe fine young man.
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Starting point is 01:59:21 Got a bunch of games tonight. Yeah, I took a little snap of some games I like here. And then if you wanted to parlay them, well, then we're really cooking. But I've got the Montreal Kenna, Jan, staying hot against the Buffalo Sabres and the Tampa Bay Lightning in that battle of Florida. Again, Panthers, not sure if we'll have Jones there in time. No, Kachuk. Lightning looked unreal on Thursday against Calgary Flames.
Starting point is 01:59:48 So those are my picks. You want to parlay them? It goes to plus 311. That's a big number. Eight in a row for the lightning? Is that where they're still at? Let's take a look. I mean, I think they're going to win that division.
Starting point is 02:00:00 It's good as Toronto's been. That division's going to be fun. Oh, that's good. It's going to be a barn burner. Let's see what it did there, Jack. Hey, we got the super chat. What is the super chat? Well, during the course of the show,
Starting point is 02:00:20 if you get into the YouTube. chat, you put some money down, we get the money to the U-S centers of Calgary. We say, hey, because of that, because you're a good sport, we're going to take the comment that you put in, and we're going to show it on the show. Have you ever called anyone's sport? Hey, sport. Yeah. You have?
Starting point is 02:00:36 Like a young kid maybe. Champ. Hey, champ. Hey, sport. Ryland, 499. Three thoughts. Klapka should be a permanent fixture on the fourth line. Miramanov is a bust
Starting point is 02:00:51 Trade Anderson Those are Rylin's three thoughts Klopka when he plays well is awesome There's just been nights you don't notice him And you can't do that at his size So when he's right, yes I'm indifferent to Klapka on the fourth line permanent All right
Starting point is 02:01:06 Miramanov is a bust Yep I don't know if bust is even correct Jack did we had Jack yell Jack's weighing in Yeah he's a bust okay Like is he a bus I don't know Like when was he drafted
Starting point is 02:01:19 Exactly there has to be expectations. What were the expectations? Has he sucked on the flames? Yes. Thanks, Jack. Is he a good third pair guy? We don't know. Ask Jack for his take on Miramanov. Nails it. Asked Jack for what he did last Thursday night. Can't tell you. He wouldn't be able to string together sentences or words that were coherent. He may or may not have reached out to McLeod Law
Starting point is 02:01:38 regarding some of those events. Oh, really? I think he probably was advised not to say anything. Is that right, Jack? Have you been? Yeah. Can you plead the fifth in Canada? That's a lot of thing we do. Here is it? No. He's an American. Oh, you're pleading the fifth. You. Yes. Thank you doodle dandy. Probably down in whitefish. Grat and ruckus.
Starting point is 02:01:53 I think and the last one, yeah. I think we're all in agreement. Dean loves him, but he's coming around. Yeah. He's a good player. It's the contract status. It's been a hell of a pit. It's been a hell of a ride.
Starting point is 02:02:06 Tough, tough year. Great start. Just staring people down through the glass. Makes the four nations for Sweden. This guy's gravy train biscuit wheels. Can we play there really. Steve Ocontost. Remember Chris Contos, that unbelievable playoff we had for the Kings. Unreal. Five bucks, Stevieo. Rett! Summer of 95.
Starting point is 02:02:29 You spend any time in Bolton, Ontario? Every time I see Andrew Manjapani, I see a young retro. What's up with that? Similarities with their have. I'm not sure. Not sure. Is it the math? Summer of 95. Because you're old. I was in Fargo.
Starting point is 02:02:48 Is Fargo close to Bolton? I feel like it's not real close, no. Geometrically speaking. It's closer than like. Maybe it was Todd Abbotsford or something. Todd worn. Yeah, probably Todd. Maybe.
Starting point is 02:03:02 Yeah. Could be your brother. Thank you, Steve. Oh, $5. $5 from Ken. Walker door is on waivers today. Pinder, fix the brim on your hat. Rhett, I agree with you only because you're the only person who shuts Pinder down.
Starting point is 02:03:18 All right. I'm not going to allow Pender just. to run his mouth and talk in circles. So I'm going to pin him down to make a statement. Come up. What he said. Pender fixed that brim and that hat. Maddickley.
Starting point is 02:03:33 trim those sirens. Walker do on waivers. Cool. Yeah. Probably where he should be. Poor Walker. All he had to do was play a certain style of game. He just couldn't do it.
Starting point is 02:03:45 Got a contract. Married. Got married. Over the game. do the math cautionary tale I'm unplugged Till as old is time
Starting point is 02:03:55 Help me Song is old is rhyme Help me Are those the super chats That's what we got? Yeah that's all we got All right Jackie boy How are you doing?
Starting point is 02:04:06 I'm doing well Yeah Have any stories from the weekend Nope I'm not I don't tell stories You should have seen him When he got in here today Because there's been a thing
Starting point is 02:04:12 With internal emails And we've had some migrations And merging of things And aliases and stuff drives and spaces. Jack was fit to be tied. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:24 He was on the phone. Say, what the H? Where's the drive? What's the folders? How can we've got the... Do you have the answers? I do have the drive now, yeah. I'm going to text someone, so I want answers.
Starting point is 02:04:36 Have you got those answers? I got all the answers. I got the drive back. I got my email. Nice. Now we've got to get you guys back in the drive. Yeah, I want to get on that drive. The email list.
Starting point is 02:04:47 That's always in the driver's... Don't I have a clip in the drive? Well, let me go look. You take a look. It's a clip that we actually didn't run from last week, and it's a tragedy that we didn't run it. Because it was from, when, so I say? Thursday. Not sure.
Starting point is 02:04:59 26th. I'm trying to remember. Anyway. February. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:03 We're into March now. February. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, what the drive is. Go a little inside baseball on you. All these witty videos that you see Ryan have and all the clever stuff. We get it.
Starting point is 02:05:17 And then we all have access to this. We don't drive. And we throw it in there. And then Jack and going, and put it on the, it's a bit of a circuitous route to how things get on the show. But that's how it's done. It's also the unclever stuff goes there too. It's all the same. Yeah, just all to do anything.
Starting point is 02:05:35 And then Jack has to kind of sift through it and decide. I can't wait to get access to this drive. Well, I think with all with your AI and all your connections, your rounds that you do. Yeah. You know what? I feel like we should be checking in daily on Rett's rounds because it is train deadline week and Friday. Let's see what you're hearing.
Starting point is 02:05:53 Well, what are the pro scouts for the New Jersey Devils is changing his flight like this morning. Whoa. From the Anaheim area back to Jersey to Newark. Changing his flight. So was he not going to get in earlier?
Starting point is 02:06:13 Oh, to get to. Big meetings. Wow. It could mean anything, really. And there's a agency, a group of agents meeting in Chicago. Well, and maybe this guy was in Anaheim and he's maybe, he's seen enough to make a decision on a certain player. Well, I've seen enough. In a good way or a bad way.
Starting point is 02:06:35 I'm sold or we want no partners. And he's not going to deliver this through email or something hacked out drive. Can't. This is right. I need. I need to be in front of face to face to face to face to face to say to see the whites of your eyes. Is that the saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:52 Yeah. Can't do with you though. I just want to like just I want to see your eyeballs. There are other parts of the eyes that aren't just white. Why do you need to see the whites of the eyeballs? Because you can put the fake. Think. Let's see if they're bloodshot.
Starting point is 02:07:07 See if I'm hammered. Yeah. Gotcha. You're drunk again. Interesting. I do want to give a special shout out to a friend of the show. All right. And your buddy, Bert Gelling is his.
Starting point is 02:07:15 MRU Coogers in a decisive win-all game three against the U of A Golden Bears won 4-2 at FCA Blue last night. We practiced before and stumbled in at the perfect time to watch an incredible game and a brand of hockey that I don't think gets enough love. It was an unbelievable contest. And the buffs. Overtime, Calgary Cannex, Buffalo's, Vigit AAA, U-18, I don't know if it's called anymore. Overtime, every game, best of three against the Air Force of Bisons, O T, O T, O T, O T, O T. They pull it out of the fire. This is one of those times. If you're a hockey fan.
Starting point is 02:07:58 So much. You want to dig a little, I don't know if the flames are going to make the play. Just go under the surface a little bit. You're going to find some unbelievable environments and atmospheres for playoff hockey. Wranglers having a monster year, I'll be at a slower second half. Hitman have an absolute wagon. They're on a clothing course with medicine hat at some point here. A lot of great hockey out there.
Starting point is 02:08:21 And because MRU won, they are off to Saskatchewan to take on the Huskies next weekend. My nephew's. Canada West Championship. At the rink in Saskatchewan on the weekend. How about that? Did you get it? Is that part of your rounds? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:34 Had a picture from there. Saw it. To beat the Thunderbirds. That's big. I can't believe we saved that right till the end. I can't believe it's not butter. You think that would have made the Pinder report, right? Like a local college.
Starting point is 02:08:47 No. There's no media associated with it. Pictures. Yeah. What if they'd have gotten you free tickets? Oh, for sure. Slide it in. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:58 Oh, you have to. Yeah. Come on. I'm out of moral. Jack, what the? Yeah, I can't. Hey, Jack. This is a great example of things that when Pender sends you the shit for the drive.
Starting point is 02:09:08 You say, I can remember that day when we had all those other things? Yes. find some of that. Jack was too busy. He was scalping U-sports tickets again. He just lost all his money and Kijiji. Yeah. Fleeced again. No. Jack, you don't need to buy tickets. He could just go right in the pub and watch the window. You don't need to go on Kijiji for U-sports tickets again. So you can't find it. I can find it just says it's empty. Like I'm in your folder empty. Yeah. And it's no. It's not working on my phone on my home computer and right here in front of me. I see it.
Starting point is 02:09:44 this is that video so if i was to i think i agree with you dine i'm with you bud yeah see you buddies see you buddies

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