Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Treliving REVENGE 🔥 Ft. Jay Rosehill | FN Barn Burner - October 28th, 2025

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

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Well, hello. We're very groggy. It's a late one. It's a groggy room. You would hope that if you're going to stay up, at least it would be worth it in the end. If you were a Dodgers fan, that was a banger. I'll say that.

I guess so. Yeah, you will. I am not a, I don't know if you. Who were you rooting for him? Well, I had a slight slant towards the Blue Jays last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought I was going to miss most of the game with curling, because you know, I'm an avid.

I do, yeah. It turned out I caught about 14 minutes. That's right. That was the only thing that I thought in the end, they're going to pull this out is because Pinder stayed behind and didn't go to L.A. because he had curling. The only thing I thought they were going to actually win was because they had nobody left and they had no business winning.

These types of games, when they go this long, the stupidest outcome usually happens. But it was the team that had their good hitters left in. Both bullpens were sensational. Two dusters. came in and were eating monster innings, high pitch counts, but just kept hanging zeros, kept walking Otani. That Lauer was unbelievable.

Yeah, he was great for the first half of the year. He was a starter for a good four months. And then they had Bieber. You get your Savage coming up. And all of a sudden it's like, yeah, we got like six guys. Like, Brios isn't even on this roster. He's gone off injury. But Lauer's the long man, I guess.

And he was long into the night last night. I'm sitting there, like you say, you're watching this. ball game. And it's because they keep going through the order. And you're like, so when are the, so tiny up again next to me? When are the, when is, can anyone hit?

When are the Jay's decent hitters coming? Why is it just nothing but these, like you say, dusters? Yeah. And then they scan the dugout. It's like, well, there's one,

but yeah, I guess he's out, he had a Homer earlier and pinched out for him. Shit. Okay. When did they get? Was it the 17th? They finally got.

They have loaded bases or the runner to third. And you're like, yeah, and then you see who's coming to the dish. And you're like, oh, is it the backup catcher or like the last utility infielder? Oh, it's the catcher. Great. All the backup catcher, awesome. Awesome. Yeah.

When that final out in that, the top of that inning went, I'm not sure if you guys heard it. My kid yelled, fuck from our house. I'm sure wherever you were in the city you heard it. Well, I heard of many of those. So I don't know if it was him or not. Jesus. Like there are some people in the house sleeping. I got 10 year olds and one of them was like,

there's no way I'm not staying up. And they're like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to stay. Can you tell me who wins? Pick him up at midnight, up the stairs. All right, dummy, go pee, brush your teeth. You're into bed. Yeah. The other guy.

Just wired. He's still sleeping, I think. Yeah, well, he says got no school to get up hard. Yeah, geez. Yeah, there were a lot of twists. And turns, Davis Schneider, if only you could run. You slow, begging. Yeah, he seemed to be moving first to third.

And then I don't know if there's some sort of a wall or a gravitational force from third to home, but it looked like slow motion. And the Dodgers who'd had some bad throws from the outfield, that relay was perfect. Yeah. And I was like, how can you send him? Like the ball's in his hand before he's even at third. But they're hyper aggressive. And Buck was like, you got.

a try because it would put you in a spot to win the game. And on top of that, it's like Tay Oscar missed the plate by like 15 feet earlier in the game, how Vladdy scored. And that shouldn't, he should have been dead in arrival. They ran into some outs. So do the Dodgers, though. Vladia had that seed the third. It was not a boring game.

That was a classic for the ages. I hope he had the over on innings on Beth 365. I don't know if they have to have. I haven't seen that field. You had the Scherzer didn't get to his case, but we definitely cleared the Bobachette total bases. If he had Otani with nine times on base, that would have paid really nicely.

Yeah, that would come through the five walks. A billion. Welcome to the show. It's a presentation of Bet365. You've got your game props, your player props, your totals, your money line, whatever your bed is. It's never ordinary. We'll talk a little bit later.

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He's not in on Mondays. He knows what he's doing. He knows what he's doing. I am Monday. I'm going to set it at love. Friday before I'll just crank it down. Turn it right off. I'll bring it up at about 5.

I'll let it's toasty. That's not McLeod Law. I mean, that's not like that. They have nothing to do with that. McLeod law. We can get them involved. We probably should. I need some heat on Mondays.

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They'll be tired and stay up and watch this shit. But if he could pull off a win, that'd be great. They'll be heavily caffeinated. They'll be slamming monsters like jacketing them. Is that what they do? Oh, yeah. Anything to get their work done in today. We go right to the insider hot.

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He is Jay Rose. He'll our buddy from the Leafs Nation. What are he doing, buddy? Man, you guys are kind to me. time. I don't know why I don't come on weekly legend. That's, uh, you know, be nice to lose, loose, loose use around the barn burner. I can't, but I'll take her.

Yeah. I, well, I guess a couple, before we get into it, you were, you went to, uh, to Italy. Italy. You're totally. Yeah. How was it? Oh, yeah. It's amazing. Like, they got her. I get it. Yeah. Figured out.

They do. History, architecture, food, people. scenery things. Oh my God. It was unreal. It was eat and drink and look at stuff and get my mind blown by all kinds of things. That St. Peter's Basilica and the Vatican, you could fit the Calgary Tower inside of it. And it's a true. It's like, what are we talking about? It's just, they don't do it like that anymore. The domes, the dome's got to get torn down after 40 years. That thing's, oh, God, they built it to last. You mean not the same? Not the same kind of aura when you go in the dome? The lights still work in the Basilica.

Yeah. Different concrete, I think. It's gold. That's why it's still standing. Well, noodles goes every summer. You just went. Do you get pickpocketed like I did? Jay or you keep all your belongings?

No, my wife was pretty concerned about it. Like stealing everything out of you. It's a thing, but, you know, you get it on off the trains and whatnot. You just kind of look around the last minute when the doors are closing, but I didn't feel threatened. There you go. Great country. Well, it's a big game day today. And I thought,

let's get in some you know let's get right to it some expertise I texted Jay yesterday I think on the show yeah not to come on the show anything in particular or what do we want to talk about? Well yeah huge game well the flames play the Leafs we'll probably get it oh yes the ice hockey yeah okay so I know you have you've had this one circled on your calendar for a long time

I thought we were going to ask about Bieber what the hell are we doing here yeah he starts tonight that is true like no rest for the wicked hey I was, I felt like I was up late last night and the people on the, the East Coast watch, and they had a real late one, but throwing right back into it. I love it, man. They moved the Leafs game,

or Flames game a little bit earlier. So we sit down and watch that, roll it right into the Jays. So a nice little hockey of, nice little game of sports tonight. I guess it was Dregs we were talking to last week. He was saying, this whole Blue Jays thing is a godsend.

Perfect time. And how their season has started. And I profess, I have not paid that. close attention, but going and looking at, okay, four, four and one, and the goaltending could be better. I know the goalie kind of came out and ripped his team sort of kind in the media, and there's been some injuries, and it hasn't been super smooth for the leaves so far. No, it hasn't. It's, you know, historically, their October is not very good. They're at the same

record that they were last year and they won the division. So people that think the sky's falling and are losing their minds, it's like, yeah, let's have a little, let's have a little, let's have a pump of the breaks here. You know, this is what they do, but, you know, it's Toronto and when expectations are high and people are trying to see if this team is better without Mitch Marner and it's different. And we've said since the summertime that this will probably be a, um, a process of growing and figuring out what this looks like and how you're at your best. So the fact that they didn't come out of the gates blazing, um, out of game one, two, three, uh, it didn't surprise me and didn't concern me that much.

And, you know, half the nation, the Leafs Nation thinks that the regular season doesn't matter anyway, which a lot of times it doesn't. So subpar kind of, some storylines and some things that certainly could be better, but I'm not one of the ones that's freaking out. It seems like the record's fine.

It's more just that when you've overhauled a roster that everyone three years ago said was way too skilled and soft and could have got done in the playoffs, and then you move a lot of assets to bring in a lot of veterans and a lot of grit, it just feels like they haven't played that way at all. Like it feels like it's been a pretty pedestrian start for a group that's supposed to be more

physical and engaged. Is that fair? Yeah, I think that's been my knock. You know, like we've seen them losing the playoffs and why was that? It's just like the style of hockey wasn't really conducive to how the team was built and all of their strengths get taken away and there's no time or space and you're not you're not playing the way that you could play to get yourself those regular season wins seems to be kind of the consensus and it looks like the brass thought the same thing and they wanted to construct this team a little bit differently rather than hand over the bag to Mitch Marner. So here we are.

They are the biggest team in the league, but they don't play like it. To me, it's an intensity issue. And again, I haven't been freaking out about their start. But when they're not doing well and when they're losing, it's like nobody's willing to go to their comfort zone to go and impose their will on the game and invoke change by force. It's always like, well, I'm just going to wait around for my opportunity. And then the horn goes and they just kind of have a blank look on their face and they get off the ice. And I think that's kind of been a theme with them. And it's the frustrating part of it that I hope they figure out

and change. They could use a young Jay Rose Hill. Yeah, they could. Something Brian Berks says, there's a shit disturber we need. There's a guy that's going to run someone through the end boards that we're down to and the boys are sleepy. Like, never mind the coffee on the bench. Let's get a young Rose Hill. Well, Jake McCabe stepped up last game. I mean, that's the the kind of stuff I've been waiting for, you know, a guy comes into your house and, in through that middle of the ice trying to, you know, rip one home and usually that guy goes untouched. And here comes Jake McCabe. And I mean, you see him at the end of a, at the interview, you know, he's this broad frame pack with muscle. He's, he's a man. He's a man. And we know that

in this league, there's a lot of boys in this league. And you lower your shoulder on that kid and make him do a goddamn backflip into the third deck. And then guess what? Oh, here comes Alex talk. I don't accept that. I won't let that happen. He comes in and just gets raggedy and by the guy. Like, you almost put his head in the second row. And guess what? You're left with a power play because he comes in there and, you know, decides to instigate that issue, which, you know, there's things that can be done in this league that are still legal. You can be physical. You can intimidate. You can have a presence. You can put players on. their heels and teams on their heels mentally saying, I don't think I'm willing to go to those lengths tonight. And I think you can benefit from it. And Jake McKay was a great example. And I think the Leafs need to do a little bit more of that because you see the teams that are having success in this league. They're built that way and they do that thing on a day-to-day basis. Stolars has kind of

been the guy. Wall left with the personal issue. It sounds like he's close to returning. That being what it is. Anthony Stolars last year was kind of a revelation. This year, it's been a tough start. 3.31 goals against 885 save percentage. How much, and like I said, he kind of came out and was vocal about his displeasure with how the team was playing in front of them. I guess what do you think about that

when a goalie or any player kind of airs their dirty laundry or how they're feeling? I don't, I feel it's hypocritical. We always say guys don't say anything, and then they actually do and we rip them for it. I never dig that. But it's not been the start, at least the form he's shown has not been that similar.

a year ago. Yeah, I loved what he like there's two sides of it right. There's there's a side of me that's like what's it like in that locker room and then what's it like doing a show and covering the leaps from the media side of thing and from the media side of it I love it like we say that all the time we want someone to acknowledge the fact that this isn't good enough and that you know, Nylander's dogging it on the way back or the effort subpar and the same stuff happens over and nobody rectifies it like I love that Stolars stood up and said that and felt like he earned the right do it like in the past year he has had the best safe percentage in the entire league you think that he's got a leg to stand on to say that stuff to criticize because i feel like sometimes the

team needs a wake-up call and needs someone to say some it's the same ring around the rosy every day like whether they get blown out in game seven or they win a regular season game six one they have the same same interview same look on their face same mentality same type of attitude it seems like and finally a guy says what everyone else is thinking so i loved it but from the other side of it in the locker room. You know, they had a team meeting right after that and they addressed it. And I'm sure one of the main points was, hey, Stolli, if you feel that way, you know, say it inside of these walls to us. And we're all about you speak in your mind and saying what you think and we're, we can handle that.

But why would you say it to the media that does nothing good for us? And it's certainly made a big firestorm. So I see both sides of it. But when you're, you're hot under the collar and you get a microphone in your face, sometimes you say things that you, you maybe wish. you didn't. And then the other side of it is when you do that, everyone's watching with a magnifying glass, your performance after that, are you going to back it up? And I don't think he's been terrible by any stretch, and I fully have faith in his abilities, but they haven't played that well in front of them. And his performance on paper doesn't look fantastic afterwards,

which just leaves you ripe for criticism after doing what he did, right? How much of that was involved with just a lot of contact that he took in the crease? And maybe the the lack of a willingness from this huge physical, not a puck moving D group anymore, but like a big mean group, not really dealing with it. Like that's the one thing still large should be comfy with is like, okay,

we got 6'5 Carlo, we've got OEL who's a big man. Benoit's tough. You bring in Tannit. You've got McCabe. Like these aren't water bugs back there. Why am I getting run into all the time and no one's doing anything? Like,

100%. Okay. People, like, he got knocked out of the playoffs last year because the guy came in and knocked. them, you know, and, you know, would that have been the difference? And, you know, they brought the team to game seven with Joseph Woll in there. And that happened in game one. Would it have been different? Like, maybe. So there's a, there's a history of it happening. And like you say, these are the big

bad Leafs now. Well, are you going to play like it? Are you going to protect me? Are you going to set a precedent that nobody comes into our goalies crease and bangs them around? There's going to be, there's going to be consequences. And, you know, that specific incident that night was on Carlo, just stood there and look at the guy as he buries into, to, to, to, Stoli, a six foot four, 225 pound guy falls on him. Like that doesn't exactly feel good. Why isn't anyone doing anything about it? I echo his frustration.

Like, why wouldn't the first thing you do is just jump on that guy? Oh, I was protecting the power play. What's more important? Getting a two-minute power play or having the league on notice that you don't put up with shit anymore and that you've got the personnel in there to rectify the problems of the past where teams don't have respect for you. teams ragdall you you you have no response for it um you don't really take pride in your team or your goalie like that that apparently has been rectified but when you see it's still happening and like

you say this big team isn't doing anything about it that's a mentality to me and i think their mentality has to change and i think their intensity level has to change and some of the guys have to come out of their comfort zone to do what needs to be done um again it it matters most in the playoffs but you don't just flip a switch in in april and become this new team you got to start putting the building blocks in place right now. Willie Nealander is still there. He was injured, I guess, didn't play in that game on Saturday. It looks like he'll play tonight. So obviously he's very dynamic. He's one of the best players in the league. We know what Austin Matthews is. And we had the conversation. We've just had it for years

about the captain. See here, it's Michael Backland. I mean, he's not a vocal guy. He's not, he's not going to fight anybody. He's not going to run anyone through the boards, but he's respected in the room. Tavares was captain for a long time. He let his play do the talk. He's very kind of quiet and, you know, a mumbler. And now Austin Matthews, is the captain and I don't know where he would fall in there. I guess you've, I mean, you played.

I guess different captains you've played for. What do you need to be, and to be the captain of the Leafs, it is what it is, right? That's a prestigious honor. Thoughts on Matthews as captain or what is it, what is the importance of having either a vocal or physical captain or how does

that role, how is it best defined the way you see it? Yeah. And, you know, a little bit of everything, like some guys lead by exam. some guys are vocal, some guys are raw, raw, some guys are take individuals under their wing in one way or another, come let some rookie live at their house. Like there's a million different things you can do. I kind of like a little bit of everything, obviously. It's, it's kind of not really fair to ask for that because not everyone's well-rounded and be able to cover all the bases. But, you know, with Austin Matthews in particular, I think there's a sentiment that you'd like to see a little more emotion or a little more passion. You know, we were talking. talking about, you know, Nathan McKinnon the other night, you know,

games over, lost, horns gone, and he is just frothing at the mouth, you know, with the value that he is to his team, he takes his gloves off and he's throwing bare hands at a guy. And it's not fighting, but like, that is the result of having passion and being willing to do anything and just desperately wanting to win. And I think if, if there was a knock on Austin Matthews that, you know, of course, you mentioned his, his prowess with scoring goals and his trophies and he's got a heart trophy and three Rocker Richard's and that's great. And he's a great player. But if there was a knock, it would be, I think this market wants to see some more passion out of him and some more intensity. I swear,

I've used those two words a hundred times the past week and a half, but it just seems kind of flat sometimes. And he seems to just kind of wait for his opportunities and see what happens. And it's almost like, oh, well, hope we win tonight and maybe we will. And it's just like, that's not Nathan McKinnon. And that's not those leaders who lead with, you know, this furious energy that sets the tone that everybody else has to fall in line. Because if that guy's doing it, well, how the hell can I get away with not doing it? I'd like to see a little bit of more of that out of Austin Matthews. And I don't think I'm alone in that. Yeah. It's like it feels like, you know, like those guys are so amazing and you're just like, that's a captain. Like you could brand them on his

chest. There aren't 32 of them, right? Yeah. And they've been different. You think about Nick Lidstrom was not a raw, raw guy, but I don't think anyone had a problem when he was the captain after Iism and, you know, took the C off or any of that. It's, you can kind of cherry pick it. If the team's good and it's going well, what a guy. That guy's a leader.

Quietly. The team responds around him and if it's not going well. Now, it's not because you criticized them, but he was heavily criticized. And that's, of course, Mitch Marner, not directly replaced. It's good. The tape, do it by committee. team takes on a new shape and all of that and he seems to be doing well in Vegas. But when you sit down to watch the Leafs, how obvious is it that he's not on the ice?

Because he was a dynamic player, both good and bad. He would do things that would make you go crazy and he would do things that make you come out of your seat. Now it's only been whatever it is nine games, but is it very visible that the Marner is no longer on the ice? You notice it. I mean, he had a lot of puck touches he played. would play 20 minutes in a night. And he was well-rounded in the sense that he's killing penalties too and doing things defensively at times. Again, people think that the fans or the Leafs thought that, you know, Nicholas Waugh and Dakota Joshua are better than a Mitch Marner.

Like, it's not really the case. It's we have been banging our head against the wall with this core four for years. And we have been left wanting every single year. for the same reason. You get to the playoffs and you play the Florida Panthers or the Tampa Bay Lightning or the Boston Bruins in their prime. And you have too much of the same player. You have the Matthews and the Nealander and the Marner and the Tavares. And it's like you don't have the pieces that they have. They get them over the finish line. So now you're at a crossroads. Do you give this guy $13 million and just keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting it for it to work one day?

you know, they had enough cracks at it. It's not like they did it for two seasons and then said, yeah, screw let's bail on this plan. It was years and years and years and years of this. So I think, you know, and with some of the fans kind of turning on some of his antics and his no look backhand sauce while I avoid a body check, it was shitter get off the pot. And 13 million bucks, you're basically saying that this is the formula.

We're going to continue ahead for another decade. A, it was time for a change, and I think Tree Living did the best he could with the situation that he was in to try to make this team more playoff ready and playoff compliant and the ability to beat those heavy teams in the playoffs in a seven game series because they just kept coming up short with it. Yeah. Well, and he always talked about it here. Like there's a team that can get you in the playoffs, but the type of teams that wins in the playoffs isn't always your division winners of high skill. there has to be this element of sacrifice and grit and physicality and blocking shots. It's a seven-game war. You're lining up across the face off top from the same guy for two weeks.

Like you've got to want to lose more than that guy. I get it. What are they shopping for this year? Like where are the holes on this team? Is it a puck moving defenseman? Is another center? I mean, there's obviously a lot of buzzer on Nazim here. Boy, he doesn't feel like the guys you just described.

He runs hot and he burns to win. Big time. I feel like, you know, at center, if you could, if you could put like a cadre, another centerman, especially one with some tenacity and some grit and some aggression, I feel like what it would do to that lineup up front, it would just settle everything in its place and you'd step back and look at the forward group and go, my God, is that deep? Like, you might have Jonathan Tavares at 3C with some heavy hitters around him and, you know, a Scott Lawton or with a dolemy, maybe even on the fourth line and Bobby McMahon's very capable. He's fast, his shots on, like,

all of a sudden you're like, well, this might be one of those teams where you have so much depth that the other, the other opponent can't even line match against you because it's like, they just keep coming and wave after wave after wave. And that's the idea. And I do think a center would really make that happen. Problem is, is, you know, they don't, the cupboards are pretty empty, right? We don't have a lot of draft picks. I mean, Easton Cowan is showing a lot of promise. You got Ben Danford, a defenseman coming looking really good in camp. I don't think they want to part with him. Like you're not selling the farm this year.

So the realistic nature of getting a real game changer on roster, I don't really know if that's possible. But, you know, an Asim Cadry, a guy, he basically got moved out of town because he ran a little too hot. He kept coming out of the gates and the playoffs getting suspended because he was too horny. I think now what we've seen, I think we take a little bit of that on the roster. Yeah, he was drafted there.

He's from there. We find out, again, it's 13, he's got 13 team no trade. I think probably Toronto is on his fly list. I think he would be fine going here. It would seem like he would be exactly what they would want.

GM is a fan because we know he signed you. It's the one that just seems so clear. But to your point, the cap is one thing, but they've spent so many draft picks. If that's what Craig Conroy would want in a deal, it would have to be some young players. So it would have to be.

Yeah, it's funny. It's not a cap problem. And it has been for the Leafs for so long. They've been 25 bucks within the cap at times before. And they're real thin margins. And now they've got the cap space. And I just don't know if they can, again, if they can make it happen.

Like, I don't think you guys on the Calgary side of things are just going to empty the, empty the shelves for nothing, right? You want something in return that's, you know, when that building's done and when everyone's hitting their prime, you're going to want to be making hay at that point in time and just giving away all your players isn't going to happen. So that's my one thing is like this would be great. And yeah, the fit works and there's so many things that line up. But Calgary's not giving you anatham Cadry for nothing. Do they need a puck mover or is this D good enough? Because they're certainly tough enough.

I just, you know, are there enough guys that can hustle back, get a puck, find a winger on the tape to get back into the other end? Well, I think it's supposed to be good enough. I mean, look what you give up for for Carlo, you know, and, you know, it's supposed to be a well-round D. And it is. I think their one knock is that they're aging. But when everyone's healthy and you see them play, and this year hasn't been a very good example of that, there's been holes and there's been defensive breakdowns and lanes and players missed. And that's on the forwards as well. But defensively, they aren't the way they were last year.

It's more of like several years ago with, you know, we saw four on one the other. night with Jersey like what are we doing guys but um from last year if you watch them if you watch you know the way they pull the puck off the wall and use each other and are able to make that play they get out of their zone pretty damn well and get into the forward's hands um and again to get a a puck moving defenseman that's going to you know be a game changer like how how are you doing that you just gave up mintin a first rounder for carlo so you've kind of made the bed already and this is supposed to be the group to get it done. So I'm not holding my breath for some big stud puck moving defensemen to come in

and round off this decor. You sort of said, you know, this doesn't feel like I burn the boats here. Like you can't be giving up futures. I wonder, like, because it's like Shannon's out, Pelley's in, press conference is very clear. We're here to win nothing else. If we don't win, it's a failure. Like, would you really worry about, oh, in four years this guy might be a top two-line player?

We're like, that seems to me where Trilovie's going to be. am I willing to part with my best prospect to get a piece to help me win this year? Because I don't know how long the leash is for him if this doesn't go well. I think they're a playoff team, but if they're not, I don't think they're going to be afraid to say, see ya. Yeah, and I mean, you get closer, you get past Christmas and you start nearing that trade deadline. That might be the sentiment. And I mean, general managers sometimes are going, well, fuck, I'm not going to be here in five years if this doesn't work. So I'm going to make sure that it works.

I take my best swing. So that might be something on the docket like a Ben Danford. But again, like what does that get you? It's, you know, I don't think they're going to move Easton Cowan. Like you try Easton Cowan in his first NHL game and he's everywhere. He's buzzing. He's well-rounded. He's got the grit.

He's finishing every hit. He's got skill. He's got vision and hockey IQ. Like I think that he could potentially help the team now. It's not like it's unheard of to have a 20-year-old with that type of pedigree, you know, be valuable in the team. I think the forward group is better with him on the lineup than with him out. So are you moving him for?

It depends on the deal, right? At the end of the day, I think if Tree Living can make the team better, he will. But it's too early to say that to see who they are. I think they're still figuring out who they are and what they're supposed to be. and Barouba is still trying to get his claws into the team and have them understand what it looks like when you're doing the things right. You're an Alberta guy.

You, of course, cover the Leafs, but you pay attention, obviously, closely to what's going on here? What's your take on the flames here through the first coming up month? It's been, there's been an eight-game losing streak. They have one regulation win in 10 games. Yeah, not one in a row. Not ready, right? But if you look at what they did last year,

like they go on a run and damn near get into the, the playoffs. I mean, with 96 points, was it? I mean, many other years, that gets you in. And nobody really saw that. Like at Christmas, were you guys saying this is? No, we're going to sell the deadline. Right. So, and it's kind of unfortunate that you didn't because it's like, well, I don't even think we want to get to that point if we're not going to get in. Like, you might as well. And it's, it's a handful of games. I think that that team is better than they look. Like you're, you know, we had staging on this morning. And he's, he's talking about Weiger and Anderson and Coleman and Huberto and Cadry and Wolf.

It's like, Jesus, you got some pieces there to be better than you are. So I think that this gross start to this season is probably going to be behind you before along. I mean, people are talking Tank and McKenna in early mid-October. Oh, Maria, for sure. Can you imagine how gross that would be? And I don't think they're going to go that direction. I think they're going to get better. and you see that, you know, the beating they laid on the New York Rangers there.

I think there's more there for them to get on track. And I don't want them to start flying their footing tonight against the Leafs or anything. But I think they're a better team than what they've showed at the beginning. Like those guys aren't going to quit. Like people are always like, well, why don't you just tank and get like being minus three every single night and having the turnovers be on your shoulders? And like, it's just those guys don't get to the NHL by having that mentality of, yeah, let's roll over and get mechanic like not a chance. I think the fight's still going to be in that group,

but I think they're better than they've showed so far this season. I've always thought the tank was the GM's job, the coaches and players, I don't care who it is. You've got to go try to win. And so the question is like, okay, Craig, you can help steer this a little, or you just, as Kent Wilson said,

let gravity take its course. If they're bad enough, all the signals are clear at the trade deadline. If you wanted to get ahead of it, that's a different conversation. And I think the only way for the Leafs to, get something like again they we always say that no one gives you something for nothing right like it has to benefit the team and make them better but if you get a position you know down the road of the

season if it does keep going this way where a guy's going well maybe i don't have to get the best part of this trade to to to pull the trigger on it because you know the more we slide the more it might benefit my organization here and you maybe unload a cadry for less than you would have a year or two before. Hard to say, but again, from the Leafs perspective, you're going to have to take advantage of someone in that way if you're going to get a game changer because you don't have enough to push it over the finish line and make the team feel like they won the deal.

You had a nasty wakeboarding injury this summer. What? How is the rehab going? How are we doing? It's going averagely, to be honest. Pay us a pitcher before we get to rehab. Like, walk us through this treacherous day. He's greased up, the six-pack.

shining. There's oil. Oil on me. No, I turned 40 this summer and I grew up wakeboarding. It was kind of a thing we did in the summer. Me and my brother and it can still do this flip, right? And you land a flip and I feel like when am I going to stop doing this thing in the summer? And I said, well, when you're 40 years old, go do the flip.

And, well, good for you. You said you could do it. And that was the end of the story. So I'm at this, my buddies like this time. And he goes, let's throw the wakeboard in the boat. And I said, nah, screw it. The kids will surf and everything. And then he goes, ah, screw it.

We'll just throw it in anyways. It's a beautiful night. The kids are done there surfing. There's just a couple of close friends on the boat. Oh, okay, screw. We'll go for a wakeboard. So I go and I'm doing it. And I'm going to go do this flip and I cut into the wake.

And I literally say to myself, because I've been doing since I was 12. And I go, well, last time, Rosie. And I chucked that flip. I kind of landed, but with some awkward balance, and I reach my hand. You know those wakes on those boats are six feet tall and these big monsters. And I put my back hand into the wake to kind of balance myself. It pulls it back and tears my pectoral tendon right off the bone. So I get in the boat and I go, my pecks all piled up in my tit there.

And oh, my God. And that was the end of the golf season, end of the good. So I knew it was going to be my last time doing that thing. and it definitely was. I won't be doing that. Rosie, you can't go out that way. You can't go out that way. One, you've got to end on a high note.

Part of me thinks that. Part of me is like, go say F you to your body, but no, the body's barking back these days. Forty's a real thing. I think one way or the other, that was the last time I was flipping around on a wakeboard like I'm 20. That torso modeling career too takes a hit.

That's too bad of that peck relocated. Shame, all those endorsements from those body wash commercials are going to go out the window. That's the thing. I got it repaired. I had surgery so I don't have the disfiguration. It's all, it's all vain. It's all about the looks, right? I was going to leave it. I wanted to leave it, but I couldn't even, I couldn't do anything. You have no, you have no peck. So I reattached it. Now I'm going through the rehab process, which it's shitty, man. It's a lot. I got these pinches and pains and I don't know. I see the, see the surgeon this week. I just really appreciate your guys as concerned. My goodness, this got very concerned. And there's certain things that a guy does that you may be better with. one hand than the other. Was that affected at all? Are you getting, are you more ambidextrous? It's, uh, I, I, I like to throw hands both on, on, when I had scrap back in the day,

but, uh, I am a strictly right hand man when it comes to behind closed doors. So, uh, and it's my left. It was my left. So I'm okay. And there's no more strangers. The stranger felt stranger for sure, but, uh, that's not my go to anyway. Love you, pal. I want to book you in for our Christmas show.

we don't have the date yet, but I feel like we need to give you months notice to have you here. Just Uber me back and forth. You guys got the cash. I hear the ad reads. Give me an Uber home and I'm there, boys. We've got legal counsel on side this year, too. So you can seek advice before speaking if need be. It'll all be good.

Thanks, buddy. Thanks for having me. Enjoyed you. Good to see you. There he is. Jay Rose Hill, you can catch him with Nick Alberga. Best eyebrows in the league. Yeah, he's got them.

He sure does. A lot of them. Yeah. Good guy out, of course, Central Alberta guy. Olds. Played for the Leaves.

Played for the Flyers. Great guy. Scrapper. It was funny because he was in Tampa system as a D man and just was like getting nowhere. Yeah.

Like, what the hell's going on here? Another year in the A. All these prospects got drafted me. They're up in the, how's this going to happen? And finally just said, bleep it and started scrapping guys. And it was like,

Ding, Brian Burke. place them forward, get your ass to Toronto, you're in the NHL. It's, many of us are not near brave enough to make a living the way he did, but God,

he was good at it. It is, I think it's probably more common than we know where it's like, oh, did it just kind of happen and it slowly morphed? No, it was like a,

I'm changing the way I play. I have to find a way. Tonight, I'm going to fight someone or I'm going to do something or whatever. And then it takes off. And it was like that for him. And we had a little sit down this past summer.

And so the coach didn't like me. And I mean, I was moving from East Coast to this to that's like I can't get traction anywhere. And then start playing forward. And then. Banging guys because you can skate and hit. I always liked running around. And if it meant I had to fight, he started fighting wasn't losing a bunch of them.

So just kind of kept doing it and kept winning a bunch of them. And then, hey, this kid's, um, this kid's a handful down there. And then your brother sending you notes on the tough guy and the team you're playing tomorrow. And I like, okay, I guess I got to start with left son on the sky. I'm a fighter. So yeah, the Leafs tonight. Four o'clock start. Four o'clock.

Note the weird start time, mountain time. It is a World Series special. They're going to get to start really early. It's also part of 16 games in a row that the NHL is doing all 32 teams in action. If you live in America, you can actually watch the frozen frenzy. America. We'll be there this weekend. In America?

America. Yeah, America. Get some America money. Codry. Remember, Elliot Friedman had the report about Codry. He's like,

if the Flames are going to trade, Codry, spent a lot of time talking about him. For a guy may not get traded. If the flames

were going to trade him, boy, they can imagine what they could get. Then it was, they're not, they have no interest, they're not going to be trading him before he plays

a thousand games. Yeah. He's going to do that. Tonight will be game 996. Wednesday against Columbus next week, game a thousand at home. So it sounds like, oh,

so a thousand. games, it's probably way down the road. Nope, that's next week. It's just there's a few things, right, that, well, he's got a no trade. Well, it's 13 teams. I've traded him until a game 1,000. Well, that's the next one. Next week.

It just makes so much sense. He's been such a good Calgary flame. That's the thing that I feel like these players don't sit and watch Barnburner, but they'll hear about the family members. They said this and they're trying to trade you. And it's like, Nazim Khadry's been a great flame. and Nassim Kadri might love it in Calgary, but that doesn't mean the Calgary Flames shouldn't be listening

because this is how you position your franchise for the next decade, not age 36, 37, 38 years for Nazim Khadry, which are the next and last three on his contract. He has been great. Aside from maybe a spell under Daryl, he's been better than you could have expected for a player of his age. He has not tailed off. He continues to create chances.

He's a dynamic offensive player. coming off a career year at age 34, like you tip your cap and I think Nazam is a smart or a guy you'd understand like, yeah, like even if I like it here, they can trade me and yeah, like I don't know that I have another contract after this. Do I want to get into the?

Of course I do. Yeah. It's, it's kind of like what Red said yesterday. It's less about what Codry. Not to make it sound like insensitive, but for, because it's flames.

If Codry wants to win or, Of course he does. Or what does he want? You've got half the league that's open to a trade. Yeah. You're not doing your job if you're not seeing what potential interest there is in the guy. Yeah. And that wrinkle with the no trade clause versus a no trade list of 13.

It doesn't like, okay, it's trade protection. Well, no, it's a big difference. Because if it's an NTC, he's like, yes or no and you can't do anything about it. Yeah. Whereas now it's like, listen, here's what we're going to. to do. Talk to me about this list of places you don't want to go. Is anything changed? That team, oh, you thought they'd be bad, they're good, or the list is three years old. And at that time, you didn't like that coach, he's not there anymore. You know, I think they're going to let this

play out a bit, obviously. It's only 10 games. It's a bad 10 games. But if you look at their last three or four in a vacuum, they played pretty well. It's the goal scoring hasn't been awful. Far more similar to what we watched a year. And so when you get around to America, Thanksgiving or December 1, if you're in the same spot, this has to be a conversation. If suddenly you're three points out of a playoff spot, I'd understand them based on Craig's track record, just saying we're going to let it play out. There's a lot of teams. I think you can listen to Jay talk about the Leafs and Trilliving there. So this is a guy that could, well, I need to feel confident about what I have here.

If I'm going to spend big to bring in a player, you better show me at least you've, you're that close. Show me what you are, that I'm, that you're worth investing. This kind of asset in. And you'd probably want to wait until about December first. You get past American Thanksgiving, get into December, it'll be the same for the flames. Well, yeah, if we could get a haul, we'd trade them. But at the same, let's, we got to, we got to,

at the, the decent thing to do is to kind of let this team play, unless obviously have a blockbuster great offer comes in, you do it anytime, but here's just going to take some time. With the flames, like you look at the schedule here. Toronto, I think, is better than the record shows that haven't been playing their best hockey. easy place to play. Ottawa has found their footing offensively. They're hanging crooked numbers now. I think multiple games of seven goals, all without Brady Kachuk. Olmark's starting to look good.

But after that, it's Nashville, okay, not sure about you. Philly, not sure about you. Columbus, not sure about you. Chicago, well, we know you're going to be in the top five picks at the lottery. Minnesota, not sure about you. And then the sharks, who are the only team within striking distance of the flames second from the bottom in the NHL. Like, if you're the Calgary Flames in that room, you're the GM, you're the head coach, you're saying, this stretch of seven games is our opportunity to get back into this thing. So as much as while we look at it today, and we do a show every day, and they are dead last in the NHL, that does not mean in two weeks time they're going to be there. Like, it is a very reasonable section of the schedule where you'd expect them to score more

goals and get more wins than they did in their first 10 games. So if it's a four o'clock start here, I mean, six o'clock there, what time does that? does the ball game start? Six o'clock here, eight o'clock there. Okay, so yeah. So it'll be like early period first pitch, a little overlap. Early departing crowd, perhaps from the old. All those put on the jumbo, Toronto. They sold out the rush for the road game. Hey, I think at the Calgary game, they're at TV time out during the Mariners series and the final out, they had, they were airing it. I mean, there was a big home run in that game. Obviously, the Springer one. And that's Calgary. Yeah, so never mind. I'm just saying, this is in Toronto. Right. I would guess, but it's like, okay, what's the

score how much time left so i think they're putting it up 12 12 during play no probably whistles though yeah whistles but there's a few sports bars downtown sara there you're right you know what if it's if it's a three goal lead or two goal lead in either way maybe it is time to go that's yeah i understand that yeah don't take a personal Craig for ruby if people are on their way on Craig you've done great it's three one you're great Craig we're going to tuck this in I got to go say how the bebes is doing both beavers are there last night by the way is that right yeah Justin was one. He's got a lot more face.

Was he the one stretching in the That's the mustache beaver, not the facial piercings, Pop Star Beaver. How is Justin Bieber doing it? It seems like he's had a little bit of a little, you know, it's been a while. Some concerns. Maybe he needs some help.

I think since the brothel in Brazil, he's kind of taken on a little more. I do love a good brothel. Broth and brothel. Both delicious. Tough to rank those, too. Yeah, it is. You love a good broth. Yeah, some days I'm definitely more of a broth guy.

It's like I couldn't do a brothel today. Got him tired. I'm lying up. I'm so tired. Like today is broth day for sure. 100%. Talk you in. Nice, delicious.

savory broth. We'll get to the Pinda Report coming up. I guess there's some baseball in there. Should not, before we get there, just staying with flames. Coronado does come back in. I don't know that we've discussed it on there.

Haven't. So let's do that. Huska, prior to their last game, He scratches Coronado, first healthy scratch of the year. We saw Igor up there for a couple. He says, it's one game only. Don't worry, putting them back in.

And then they maybe have their most complete effort of the season with a 5-1 win over the Rangers on Sunday. And you're like, well, shit, I said I had to put Coronado in. So what are we going to do? And it's like, well, if you're putting them back in, you can't really, and you like to put them in the top nine, but those three lines are rolling. And it's like, does fourth-lane Coronado? Is that what the opportunity he needs?

Like, oh, yes, now I'm next to Kirkland. Watch the floodgates open. He's back in. He's on the fourth line. It's Kirkland at center, Longberg on the left, Clapka, the odd man out. And on defense, it's the same pairs we've seen for a while. Now, Ball Anderson, Bean Weger, and Hanley with Perrek.

It is Wolf that is starting again. Poor Braden Bahal. I don't know what he has to do to give it in this lineup here. He's a right shot, and that doesn't seem to work for this coach with Perrek in, and Anderson and Weger on the right. They have not really been keen to throw Weiger on the left, except for a couple of games, one game with Miramanov. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, it's not the most. most grave of miss misspoke ever. But I do wonder if Huska had his druthers, if you'd go back and if rather than just, it's one game. He's coming back in. Just say, this is a short term thing.

Yeah. He's just going to watch a couple of games. Yeah. Because you probably don't, we talked about it yesterday, having Coronado on the fourth line. That's not really where you want them. And the top three lines,

well, they all kind of performed in a way that they deserve another, another crack at it. So probably best case to be, hey, you know what, Coronado, you're going to watch another one. Clapka stays. the fourth lines. So instead of one game, it's two and there's no harm done, but

kind of said it was going to be one game. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of married to that take. And you're right. Like, this isn't the greatest miscarriage of justice. No one needs to be incarcerated over this. It's game number 11 tonight, I believe. And, but they tried some things that worked so you don't want to get away from them. Like, you liked Frost on the wing. He can take some draws. He's better on face off than Cadre is. And you like that line. You know, the Backlund and Coleman were taking some strays last week. And then I think it's been their best line the last two games. Coleman's up to five on the season.

He's leading the team in goals, backed on a couple helpers. Hansick's really cemented it. I was going to say, he got to kind of squint to see it, but if you're, that, that feels like the spot for Hansa. Yeah, and it's not new. Like, we've seen really young guys cut their teeth of back when we saw with Kachuk, we saw it Manchampany.

There's been a lot of guys. It's a, it seems to be a comfortable place for young players to play. It's, here's your job, go do it. And they've actually created some offense. And then you're trying Zeri down the middle. You don't want to just give them one and then say, no, no, you're, wing are like, I like to see Zerry down the middle, see what it looks like.

And you had Sharon Govich score in his return. Fairby's been consistently creating chances all season, arguably your best forward to this point, just with no puck luck. So you're in the spot where it's like, okay, it is fourth line with Lomburg and Kirkland. So hopefully those pucks aren't square by the time they get to Coronado. Cadre and Frost, both Toronto guys. Yeah. They'll want to put on a show.

There's a few. Perix got a ton of friends and family coming in, Uighers and Ontario guy. I think Kevin Ball is too. I don't know. Jack, did you know that Morgan Frost's dad was the PA announcer for the Toronto Maple Leafs? Do you like I heard that last year. Yes. Andy Frost.

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Yeah. That was in Brandon. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm Andy Frost. It's like this guy. God, those pipes are good.

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your dealership for life. Let's start aflamesnation.ca, where the pens are always dripping ink. The typewriters are always clicking. That's right. Sam Hansick's capitalized on his opportunity of the flames. It's almost like he's just there. Like if you were saying like who we're going to put Coronado in, like his name didn't even come up.

He is really solidified a spot here. On the flip side, you wouldn't miss him if he wasn't there. No, he just fits. You don't notice him in a way. He's doing his job. You know what you're getting next. Like I say, maybe you're right now you have to kind of squint. You've got to really look for it.

But I think there are signs. And again, what is he going to be? I don't think he's ever going to lead the team in scoring. No, God, no. Right? It's not just, but he's going to be in the middle of your lineup. And the way it's going, he's got, he might be a hard to play against reliable guy. Moves well for his size.

Going to make some smart plays and be, uh, be a valuable guy contributing in other ways than scoring goes. It's Sunday. He must have dented the post with that chance. Yeah, he's had a couple of posts. He had a, yeah, because he had, I think Husko was talking. about. He had a goalpost last week. He had another one here. Got his first point the other night. And it's not to say that Coleman is scoring because of Hansick,

but he's not holding them back. No, that line has been their best on the line the last two games. Now, it's a small sample, but there wasn't a lot of good lines at all in the first eight games. So you'll take a line on a bit of a heater. No. Where do they go from here? The Calvary Flames. It would be an interesting week. They're going to head Toronto to Ottawa.

And really close to Canada, you'll know. is Nashville, Tennessee, which is right next to Philadelphia. So it's just a really condensed, tight little four-game roadie. Yeah, that's the natural route, Ottawa to Nashville to Philly. I mean, if you're already in Canada, you may as well go to Broadway. Well, this is one thing we never thought if we're going to Nashville. Did we think about maybe going to Philadelphia afterwards because it's clearly on the way home? Is there a bus?

Is it a tram ride? We'll look into it. We'll look into it. Are they in Pittsburgh after that or no? No, they head home. They've got Columbus on Wednesday. That'll be game. What is we doing, Gary?

Yeah, I know. It's right in Pennsylvania. That's a good point, Jack. Game 1000 for Cadries next Wednesday, and then it is the Hawks, the second of the two-game homestand. All right. All right.

Okay, it's game day. We know that. Yeah, it's the Leafs. Note that start time again. Four o'clock. Mountain. Mountain. There's Whigs.

One of the Ontario boys. There's always a bunch on all these NHL rosters. You know that. Our time zone has the coolest name. Mountain. Like you could be in the east or the Pacific or the set. We're in the mountain. Bam!

Right? Bringing your weak ass in here. We're a mountain. I think everybody would want to live in the mountain time zone. Yeah. What's more badass time zone than mountain? Isn't what? Also prime for sports.

Nothing too late. Nothing too early. 5 p.m. Yeah. I don't know how they do it in the east. I don't either. Or it was almost 3 a.m. When that baseball game ended last night in Toronto.

No. Three! And everything starts too early If you're out in Vancouver So was it? One already? I'm not ready right now. No, I just had lunch.

Can't do this now. I had a late lunch. What do you mean? The game was thinking flames run at three in the afternoon. What? What? No. All right.

Let's take a look at what the lines are looking like. We showed it before. There they are. Another wolf start. Make a 10 of 11. There is a back. to back on the weekend. It's Nashville Saturday, Philly Sunday.

Poor Devin Cooley's looking at the schedule. Where are these goddamn back to backs? He's got to play back to backs at least. You'd think he didn't have out of the gate in the season. They've started Wednesday, Thursday. Well, it's game one and two. They're fresh. I don't know how fresh will be November 1 and 2. It's such, we've talked about this probably since

the dawn of time. Yeah. When the team's playing poorly, well, you can't play your backup because you need a win. And if they're playing well, it's probably because your number ones is right. He deserves to keep starting. You got to break up a winning. Yeah. It is not the Vlodar Wolf alternation that we saw last year at this time, that to be sure.

We may see Vlodar in the tail end of this four game, Rodey, which kicks off tonight. Leifes look a little like this. Nealander with the, uh, the Marloup construction sign there. That means probably good to go, but definitely not,

he left last game, I believe. Didn't play in the, left the game Friday. Thank you. Didn't play Sunday. Practiced yesterday on the, on the ice for morning skate today,

believe it to be good to go. We've seen all kinds of combinations of these top nine forwards, even Max Dolmy as well as moved around. They're trying to figure out where to put everyone without Marner. Eastern Cowan, we're going to hear that name

as long as we're going to talk rumor meals and stuff like that. He's their best trade ship. He's had a good start. I think he's got points in his last two games. Rosie's saying physical in there. You're noticing them. It's not a rookie that's out of place right now.

That third line's been a bit of a handful. Joshua's got a couple goals in his last couple. Nicholas Wogg, everyone remembers him from Vegas, correct? Yep. So they got him in the Marner deal because it was a sign and trade.

Yeah. And Dakota Joshua, they're hoping it's the version that narrowly lost out to the Oilers in round two a few years ago. He obviously had some serious health concerns that ended his time in Vancouver, but that's a big body that you'd love

in a seven-game series. Decor, a little dinged up. They're without TANF, not ideal. They've got a few injuries around. Who's the other guy I'm thinking of? Like it's not, it's not, they're, they're without TANF. OEL is still relatively steady for what he is.

And Carlo is fine. He's a defender. That's, those guys are fine. Morgan Riley is going to be in that top four. Benoit is, yeah, he's in a little liar. And Philippe Myers is the guy that comes into the line of Tanna about. He's their seven. So it's another one of those ones where there's some good D there.

no one really is a number one guy. No, Morgan Riley is not the number one he used to be. It's still a very good defenseman, but this is not a, oh yeah, put him down for 50. He's a menace on the powerplay. That's a true. You know what Trillivings put hit with McKay, Benoit, Carlo, he's happy with those. Big bodies. OEL2, not small.

Inette, Stalars, Woll not back yet. Caten Primo is the backup. You'll remember him from his time lately. in Montreal is a guy they were wondering. Could be in number one. The answer is he's a three and he's a two now because wool's out. Okay. Keep moving.

Where are the flames and the standings? Yeah. The bottom, although their last three or four games, you could argue it been their best three or four games, they have two wins, one gifted by the Oilers, the other a regulation win Sunday that they absolutely earned against the Rangers. We'll see if they can carry any momentum against the Leafs. Do you show up in the bottom 10 here?

there they are ninth from the bottom not where they'd like to be but they're also just at 500 it's not that big of a deal i find it's okay like criticize your nine games in your 500 yeah it's not the results it's how they've looked like the flames had one win through that an eight game losing streak you're going to criticize and you're going to maybe in st louis like three win it's we're still in october yeah and again the results are fine. It's just when you build a team that's supposed to be grizzled and nasty and growling and they look disinterested, you're like, eh, yeah, what's going to happen this year? Or it's just a veteran group that knows it's Tuesday, October 28th. Possibly. That said, you know,

the Rangers are there and they're not a lot worse and we watch them and it feels like big trouble for them. Yeah, it feels like Minnesota's really stumbled the last two weeks after a, what, a big shutout on opening night, if I recall. I just think the lost, it's drop six to seven. For the Leafs, Everything has to be so different from a fan. It's one thing to watch, but just to be in the room on the bench, going through your power play drills at practice without Mitch Marner, who's been there for so long and was such a big part of that team for better or worse. Maybe you couldn't stand the guy.

Maybe the guy was beloved. Maybe he's great. Maybe he's awful. But just every part of being a leaf right now during games in the room would be so different. A hundred point guy you deleted. Without. That's the thing. Right? Yeah. You don't just replace that.

And so how is this team going to play to have success? That's what they're trying to figure out. Some other teams worth noting in their Tampa still bottom of the Atlantic. Well, I guess Boston's blown them now in St. Louis off to a, yeah, not a great start. But again, they're just two games under 500. We'll take a look at some milestones achieved. Jack, tuck it under your belt. Tell us about this. What a stud. I got to watch some of this game before the Jays game started.

He was flying around still. like this guy just doesn't age. He wants out so bad. Dan the man. Another three point night for Sid. Damn the man. What's going on? How come we're not getting the Dan the man images that I feel like you, maybe we're jakes

again. Are we missing some memes? Well, let's just remember as soon as started the air, I was said of him. He had the ball, the bald headed Dan Muses, which is kind of that pensive look at whatever something good happened for the penguins, Jack would tweet out or would text out. I think they started two and oh and they got destroyed by the Rangers. and I was like, I can't do that anymore. They're actually after great stars.

Another win last night. Yeah. What does it say at the bottom there? But it's something about fourth player in actual history. With as many points, 1700, with just a single franchise. So not whole career, but with one stop,

1,700 points. That's going to be an elite list. Hoie. Good to have that list. I'm trying to think it'd be on that list. Yags and Pitt, probably wasn't there long enough. No.

Stevie. Mario, Stevie probably. Wayne and Edmonton. That might be end of the list. Gordy Howe in Detroit. That's only three other guys, so. Yeah, I mean, it's probably three of those four. Maybe the list isn't that hard.

Maybe it's not big deal. I don't know. I don't know. Top point getters in the league. There's some common names. There's some surprises. If you had Nick Schmaltz, the pending UFA centerman in Utah leading the league in scoring.

Schmaltz eh? Congrats on the island you've just purchased because nobody saw that coming. Jack Eichol's been off to a great start and look at Jack's. Gino. What is Dan Mews putting in the old smoothie machine over there? Dan the man. Vegetable food.

What's going on? You have 30 points already combined from Gino and Sid? What? Have the flames even scored 30 goals? Dumb it. It'll last. Yeah, it's not something that's just kind of happening. And so if you had one of these names on the list that you'd say,

I'm going to fade that continuing, what would it be, Dino? Schmaltz or Malkin? Probably Schmaltz. It's hard to say. Shmaltz. Not to say, I don't think Nick Schmaltz is going to be leading the league in scoring, but I also don't think Malkin is going to be tied for the league lead either. I think there's something going with Utah.

There is. I think they're closer to being for real. And a lot of people last your thought, and it was like, okay, they're just not ready. It's like, oh, a good young team. They got a bunch of young draft picks and that. I think Vamelka has been. good. They've made some moves there. I do wonder if maybe these, what are they? Mammoth. The Mammut.

If these Mammute might be ready to make a statement. Jack Eichel two overall, Malkin one overall, Celebrine overall, Celebrini one overall and Crosby one overall. Nick Schmaltz, sorry I forget, but if you're a Flames fan looking for people to lead the league in scoring, I'd recommend picking first overall. For a second. Just do it already. Why are they holding off? What's going on, guys? Go get the next McLan, right, would you? Please.

Just go do it. What a great day to be a hockey fan, unless you're in Canada, where we will not see the 16 games with all staggered start times and a red zone type show on ESPN. Sure, you could have put this on one of your Sportsnet channels, but apparently no. Here's all the games that people in America will get to watch with a fun zipping around the league type format.

That's every team in the league if you need them. that's a lot of hockey. Six in that middle row, five top and bottom. Tune in for P.K. and mess to yuck it up. The electrifying. Yeah, exactly.

Obviously, I'm very excited. So, yeah, hey, chat, GPT, can I get this in Canada? Well, no. There's no mention of it in the local listings. Apparently SportsNet Plus will have individual games, but there's no legal way to watch the red zone like show in Canada.

sorry Canada, you're not included in the fun. Why? I'm not sure. I mean, stupid regional broadcast, whatever, but like, you're doing it once or twice a year? Is it really hard to call Gary and say, hey, you're doing this to grow the league and to, like, create a great thing that only happens rarely

and you want your fans to watch? So let's cut out the country where you're most popular on earth from watching it. It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to do. Correct. with the technology that exists now. So a slow clap to whoever didn't get that on TV in our nation. So I guess you can just jump around the app and do your own whip around show and pretend you're Scott Hansen. Whipp it around.

There you go. Last night, this morning, two days it spanned, two games in length, an 18-inning classic from Dodgers Stadium at Chavez Ravine in downtown L.A. Here was the final play of the game. Los Angeles. Herman sends a fly ball to center field. Marsho's going back before the count strikes. Bernie Freeman has ended it. It's a repeat hero.

Six hours and 39 minutes. 18 innings of baseball. They almost ran out of baseballs. It ties the 2018 World Series game between the Red Sox and the Dodgers is the longest in the history of the championship series. It started back in 1903. That's 122 years of doing this, Dean. 123 this year.

That was an absolute marathon classic. It ended at almost 3 a.m. local time. You heard on the call, it was just before midnight in L.A. These poor fans that spent thousands on tickets were subjected to three and a half hours with no booze. They cut off sales in the 8th. Yeah. Have you talked to Bender or Wock or Newman? Both of them were very kind enough to Zoom call me in where it was so loud they couldn't

hear me, but I definitely got to see them having fun at Dodger Stadium. Thank you, fellas. But more importantly, though, how was curling? You know, not unlike the Blue Jays, we were in good shape and then got walked off with a two spot in the sixth end, falling six to five to people that probably been collecting their pensions for two decades. Well, it's always next week. It's up that I'll be in Nashville. Me, at least, you get to watch another full game pretty much. Yeah, and we had the sound on in the rank, which was great. So we could hear what was going on. There were screens you could turn to when you weren't

sweeping her. The other team was up. That sounds great. It was just the best. Thanks for your support. When I'm not sweeping, I can watch the ball game. Well, I'm the skip, so I don't have to sweep much. You're the skip? That's why we're losing. Yeah, it was a night for show you

Tony. So here's the thing. Why are you pitching to this guy? Home run, double, home run double. Fifth that bat. Hey, why don't we not pitch to him? Now that he's at 12 total bases, maybe we just put him on ice. What they didn't know is that they'd play a second game and the rest of that first game and it ended up being four intentional walks, one non-intentional walk, two home runs and two doubles. That's nine on base appearances. Nine. That's a lot. The previous record was seven, which he set two innings earlier and then eight,

two innings after that. Yeah, it's a lot. And I don't know that you're going to see them pitch to him. much. Maybe with no outs early in games, but that's going to be about it. Our own Jack was in our group chats. Why do they keep pitching to him? And they aren't afraid to do it to judge. We saw it a lot in the season series against the Yankees. Now, it is a little different. Like after judge, you have some good hitters, but you don't have bets Freeman, like two Hall of Fame. That's the thing. Oh, so now it's Moogie Betts. And oh, okay. You better walk him too. Now they're loaded. Finally, they had to pitch to him, I guess, if you want to call it that.

And what was it? It kind of pitched him. Yeah. They pitched around the strikes. Yeah. It was like, hey, let's see if he strings at some balls because we're not throwing this guy. My kid was freaking. Throw some orange and throw some strikes away.

I don't think he wants to. You don't want to throw strikes to him, son. He's not trying to throw strikes. He's hoping that the best hitter in baseball is going to turn into an idiot. Just start flailing away at both nine feet out of the strike. He didn't. He was at first four pitches later. Yeah.

He was there. It sets up, well, first off, some bad news with J's. Not only were there. substituting guys to runners and trying to get platoon advantages and getting all their good hitters out of the game quite early. George Springer then left got an MRI. I mean, I live with right side discomfort. I got both side and front and back.

You must roll over. Come on, George. Yeah. You didn't hurt himself sleeping. It was a hard swing. It was a freaking world series. Kirk was taken out as well. Barger was taken out as well.

They were real quick to get Bichette out of there. And I get it. You got a runner on and a chance to take a lead. But still, if you knew there was another 14 innings. Yeah. hindsight would have been Yeah, if only they got the script from the commissioner, Rob Manfred

and just said, hey, this is an 18- Oh, shoot, well, we better save some bullets. We better keep some guys that know how to hit a baseball. No one got the memo. At this rate, with all of these guys out of the game, if we're in the 14, 15, 16, we're not going to be able to hit for shit. Lauer was unbelievable coming out of the pen.

You had Bieber loosening up, but really not throwing that hard. Yamamoto went pretty hard at it. And you saw the Dodgers pitching coach coach giving the head shake. He's a robot, though, right? He wasn't ready to go. And so maybe he would have been another inning or two.

He is going to pitch again in this series. Bieber will start tonight despite starting the loosening up process. We'll see how that affects this series. But I'll tell you what, the team that can get into the other team's bullpen first tonight, I like their chances. Well, so many of those Jays hitters had most of the night off after six. You will have a very fresh Boba Chet, Alejandro Kirk, and Addison Barge. Freddie Freeman's going to be gassed. That's right.

all those cuts, right? Otani, all those walks? He's not had nothing left. He'd actually tweak something on one of the. I saw that. It looked okay later. We'll see how he is today. It might have been just a cramp.

There's your odds of tonight. Dodgers, heavy favorites, minus 205. G's underdogs at plus 170. The overrunner set at eight. I mean, they only got, what, 11 runs and 18 innings. We'll see how that one goes. Big one. It's either 3-1 or it's an even series,

and you've forced a return to Toronto. Feels like a big game. right sure does dino sure does and they went and got Shane Bieber for the hope they could play games like this because i think you'd be a lot more comfortable Shane Bieber today than say Jose burrios because it's it sounds like coach speak but at the end of all of that and it's heartbreaking and that whole thing just win today you come in today it's two it's two to one we got Bieber going he's good dude the last series you're down two oh you're only down two one here win a ball game win a ball game force it back to Toronto. Get Canadian

customs to mess with Dave Roberts on the way in. Let's go. He's a little soft, that guy. It seems he's backpedaling pretty hard there. A little soft. Little soft. So it is Bieber. It is Otani. 608 first pitch. Game number four tonight. It will have a tough time living up to last night's epic. But again, monster implications on the

results of tonight's game. Let's go to some NFL. Jack Steelers, they're thrilled. They're absolutely ecstatic. AI or not, who's to say, really? Let's take a look at the very small Steelers locker room. I know it stings right now. I know we left plays out there, but listen up.

Fellas, we may have lost, but now we're on track for 9 and 8. Yeah, 99, baby, let's go. 9 and 8. I've been getting set this all day yesterday and today. There's this other one of like the Tomlin toy. I sent it in her chat. Didn't you have them at 12 and 5?

Then when you did the quick breeze from the sketch. Still there? There are only a couple games off pace. They're fine. People are getting sick of Tomlin, though. If you're getting sick of it, I can't imagine where the rest of the fan base is. I think it's every year, though. It's somehow, yeah, well, they make the playoffs and then he just survives another year.

There's some out-of-work coaches out there that they could try on for size and be like, I wish we had Tomlin. Yeah, I was going to say. I think they were tired of Rabel in Tennessee, too. How much crazy did we hear about Antonio Brown when he was there? Lots. Yeah, they've had some. No, like zero. Then he left and you're like, whoa, maybe Tomlin's best skill was keeping.

keeping him happy. Or he just got crazier as he got older. That could have been into CTPS, ESPN, yeah. That guy right there, not the SORA AI guy, but he would not be out of work long. No. Nope. Nope. So you make the playoffs every year with the roster that maybe or maybe shouldn't make making the playoffs?

Yeah, sign here, please. Yeah, we'll take that better than being the Jets of the Giants, for example. Yeah, and the other thing Jack keeps talking about is like, if you're spending more money on defense than the other team in the league, might be nice if that defense was good. It really hasn't been. They've been bludgeoned. Here was the final from last night. We thought the Chiefs were starting to roll, and indeed they are 28 to 7.

It was close for a bit, but then Mahomes and Company, well, Jerry's got the boys rolling, whoever. Yeah, that's that team. Yeah. They're rolling. Thursday night, only a couple nights away. It is, oh, look at this. They're the worst team in the league and their head coach is trying to get fired.

Oh, big win last week against the, these guys are buried, but hang on. Lamar's coming back. Oh, no, it's Snoop Huntley. we want anyway and we're out of buy and we're a little healthier. What do we make of the Thursday night or Jack? Do you sit Lamar another week? That's interesting. Yeah.

I mean, it felt like he was close to going last week. Yeah, that was weird. You're so much better with him, but it is Miami. But then it's kind of like, are you going to put your foot right in the trap? Because, you know, Miami, some play them last week and thought they were going to get rolled. Well, they got into some shit. There might be some fines coming because, oh, yeah, Lamar's on track to play. and then day of game, it's, oh, it's going to be Huntley.

You have to disclose these sorts of things. It's a different world we live in now. He was questionable all week, but you're right. It did feel like he was on track to play. He was in full practice, the Friday or whatever. You're going to have to be a little bit more clear with your disclosing of injuries and whatnot. It's an interesting question. The thing is, they can't lose again.

No, you've got to get rolling, especially against Miami. So the win last week means nothing if you go. and lose to the Dolphins all of a sudden. Yeah. A quick reminder, it is Calvary FC on the road this weekend in the semifinal. They play Forge on the weekend, and it's the stampeters on Saturday evening. Oden, in BC. It's the VA revenge match.

Third times a charm. I have it on good authority. The lions are going to be taking the stampeters lately. Excellent news. Love to hear that. Finally, we'll close with the marriage of two universes. We talked about the Venn diagram earlier. Yeah.

Canada's team in baseball, but they're all Americans. But we love hockey here. How could the Jays become even more endearing? Well, when you get to watch high school hockey highlights of Ernie Clement, let's go. Still on the second, Fairport up to 1, but Brighton on the power playoff, the face-off. Ernie Clement slides at home, and Brighton has upset on its mind, and Fairport into the Sylvarens get this down ice. The outlet to Michael Feinstone ahead to Ernie Clement.

And this one just does. To play a little hockey. Super's legs, the Barron's take the fourth re-lead. I don't know he's wearing two different numbers, and if this is AI or not, but I like to believe that Ernie Clement is a good hockey player. So thank you, Crem 13 or whatever that is. Or he's played some high school hockey. Yeah, which again, score now that's four goals.

God, Ernie Clements on a heater. That's a boy, Ernie. Three different jersey numbers. What's going on, Ernie? Could have mixed in a hit last night. One more would have been good. There it is. That's your Pinned Report this Tuesday, October 28th.

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Got an idea coming. No, it's due season. I mean, it's worse calls to make. we'll chill in here every day. Yeah, I don't even want to throw it out there yet because I need to do some, some logistics. We should do some homework on that recession buster meal in Nashville this weekend. Yeah, we can do some of that.

Bontan meets, get them in your, get them in your thing. Maybe you, do you celebrate American Thanksgiving? Maybe you don't. Christmas is coming. Are you going to do something? Are you hosting Christmas this year? I know it seems crazy, because here's the thing, it seems crazy. Christmas, what are you talking about?

But if you're the person who has to host. dinner. You're the planner. You're the cooker. You're the chef. How many people? 10, 12, 15. That's a major undertaking. Tell them. Number of people. What does everyone like to eat? Boom. Set it, forget it. They can help you out in a big way. And you don't have celebrated American Thanksgiving. You can just celebrate not working and watching three games of football. Yeah, there's that. I mean, maybe you're not American. Jack is. But I feel like we owe it to Jack. Yeah, if we don't need a bunch of turkey and watch three football games, you go to Jack to do something on American Thanksgiving. So I'm going to talk to Greg. Don't let you down, Jack.

going to talk to Greg. He's going up here. And selfishly we'll take part and probably enjoy it as much or more than Jack because we're older and likes to sit around, watch football and eat. Yeah, we enjoy paid leave a lot at this age. Yeah, we sure do. I did the, going back, kind of a throwback here, callback. So Sidney Crosby, fourth player, 1,700 or more points with one franchise.

Yeah. His teammate Mario Lemieux, Mario, we mentioned, 1723. Stevie Eisenman, 1755. You nailed it. Gordyhow 1809 with the Detroit. We're thrilled it. We're good at this. Wayne didn't get to 1700 before he was in.

1669. Close. Soon. Hmm. Nice. So we don't need to do the bets. Rett's not here today. Red will be back tomorrow.

So we don't need to talk at all about it. Yeah, we can recap tomorrow. I'll just look here. I do have some bets for it's nice. Oh, she's. What's going on? I'm just looking at, I could see the screen. There's a lot of red.

There's a lot of red on there again. I was over 500, but that does not get me back to 500. That's kind of how it's gone this year for us. Yeah, you know what, Rhett will want to be here for that. So we can do it tomorrow. Okay, good. Because tomorrow's what Wednesday? That's correct.

After Tuesday is Wednesday. As much as I know people are probably sitting there dying. No, please tell us about, can you tell us about your fantasy football teams or your teams you put on? Show us the games where you pick the wrong side. I need to see these. they turn it into a coin toss for you and you picked the wrong coin sides. How did you do it?

We'll do it tomorrow. What a tease. Here's four guys that clearly don't have any idea what they're doing. I'd like to invest some time in hearing them talk about it. Now again, Cabby said it a few weeks ago when you were gone. If you've been fading us, congrats.

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Boba Chette has been great hitting the ball. We're not sure how he's going to run, but he's just getting hits. Plunk a single in here, smack a double. there. Keep him hot plus 150 for two plus total bases. He's cleared that total a bunch since coming back from, what,

seven weeks away? And nobody likes the showcase game like Nazam and Toronto. Let's go. Hey, Bradley. Remember when you sign this guy? Seven years. Center. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Score the other day.

Yeah, it's not a bit of a eater. Yep. Playing well. Getting fired up. Doing the the dives into the glass, he would love to score and his return to Toronto against his old team. He had back-to-back

32 goal season with the Leafs, those were career highs until last year's career year in Calgary for goals. I guess, was it two years ago when the flames went into Toronto and Zodorov

had that big open ice hit and then was talking about it afterwards and basically just said, yeah, I'd like to be traded. His agent spoke and said, you know, we need to work on a new deal and he's the best defenseman on the team and you're like,

there's Hanifin, there's Hanof, there's Uigher, there's Anderson. I think he's the fifth best defense. Okay, well, I think this may be a distraction. And Craig, maybe instead of asking for a third, you take a fourth and get him the hell out of here. Yeah, it was into Vancouver less than a month later.

Lays a guy out in Toronto. The media is like, this is exactly the type of player the leaves could use. Yeah, I would probably be open to a trade. Toronto or wherever, I would definitely get traded. There's Zadarov's agent. What's he doing here? Oh, he wants to talk to all of us? Oh, great. And Zadarov's on the shopping.

less for other teams. Thanks for the hand grenade. Nikita. Appreciate that. It's awfully good. Offa nice of you to do. Not boring. The old Zadora roller coaster. Not boring. Well, a couple of things here to wrap the show. First, we'll kind of at the sink. We do it every day. It's a super chat. The horns. Throughout the course of the show, we have our YouTube chat is open. You can take part. A lot of people do. I get really feisty in there. They get at one another. A lot of Flames Oilers band. Every single day. And then there's the cash donation option, which then gets your comment shown on the program.

Here's what we got today. The working man. Hey, hey, the workman. The leaf glazers at TSN are insufferable, especially Hayes and O'Neill. Those are noodles counterparts. Noodles is good, though. Hope flames win so I can hear them cry more. Easiest team to hate besides the Oilers and their fans.

God, I love the working man. Yeah, he's in every day. You know what? Hayes played for, like, O'Neill played for the team. I mean to say. He's the old dog. He played for the Leaves. And Hayes is a Toronto guy. He's a Toronto guy. Loves the Blue Jays. Loves the Leafs.

It is funny. Like this is very inside baseball. But when you compare and contrast the SportsNet and TSM coverage of the Jays, like one's the right holder, right holder. Oh, yes. And the other one does not own the team and will definitely be talking CFL before Jays until it's playoff time. So tomorrow's Wednesday.

I should check with noodles because his schedule is so crazy. but I wanted to ask them because I've been watching and listening a little bit to the TSN stuff. They don't call it Rogers Center. No, they call it Skydoll. It's Skydoll. This Bell Rogers thing. It's really something else. When we were back at the old shop at the early days, sports talk, you know, maybe it was even before I got there, but there used to be a team network.

And the fan were the stations. Nothing was branded SportsNet TSN. Yeah. And then at one point, people in boardrooms in Toronto that had pissing matches said, we're branding a sports net, we're branding his TSN. And all of a sudden, the station that used to get Bob McKenzie, well, you can't get him now. He's a bell guy. You're Rogers.

And like, okay, we used to get, like, no, you can't get him anymore because you're a TSN. Like battle lines were drawn like 20 years ago. It is intense. And like borderline crazy how competitive the Bell Rogers thing is. And it's weird that you talk about being competitive that I've actually been told that somewhere like, some guys that used to work for Rogers and worked for sports net that maybe went on and did their own thing. Sportsnet won't let their people on their podcast now.

That's weird. Wasn't even to T.S. No, no, no, like not really, like I think they're on the internet or something. It's like, it's not even a radio versus, it's not even a, yeah. That seems petty. I don't know.

Competitive, I think, is, you know, it's, it's, that's one word. The competitive juices are. Yeah. Thank you, work. man, that's very nice. Yeah, very nice. More on the old, the daily.

Richard. Richard. Dick Braley. What's happening? $5. Without a doubt, Cadre will be gone sooner than later. There's a lot of teams underperforming.

You will go to a team nobody expects. Okay. So the expects list would be what, like Toronto, Montreal, who else needs a center? We talked, I think, with Dregs about Carolina. Yeah, that would.

They could use some center help. Yeah, but again, until Dregs mentioned, I don't know we would have had them that high. That might file as nobody expects. But now the Dregor said it. I do wonder about the 13 team, if that would be a destination. Do you guys think they'll only trade him to somewhere he really wants to go, though?

You know what? This is the truth that I was going to say, this is not going to be a trade that blindsides Nazim Codry. Yeah, it happens. Correct. And I think the win-win for everyone here is a team that really wants him, is a place that Nazim wants to go, and you get a nice return.

And I don't know that that's too pie in the sky to think that that could happen. Yeah. It's, it'll be a team in the top 16 in the standings or a contender that's outside of the top 16. That's what I'll tell you. He's not going to Boston.

Yeah, I mean, it's hard to say. Yeah. I mean, again, the standings will change. But again, he's going to a contender to try to win a cup. That makes him happy. The team that says we're a contender and Naza makes us better, they're willing to give you lots because winning a cup's really cool. I guess more than that though, it's not like I guess my point is he's not going to be

at the team Neil and phones start exploding. Oh my God, you got trade. What I've been trained? They are going to be up front with him. Yeah. Here's where are some, what are some teams? Here's teams we've taught likelihood that he's going to be very much involved. And I think if you involve them that 13 list,

team list might only turn into a 14 list. Which, yeah. It only makes sense if you're Craig Conroy to make this work for everyone. And he's been a good soldier. He deserves that. And if it is a team that he doesn't have on his list but says, I wouldn't really want to go there. But the return is great.

I'm sorry. Naz, it's a business. You get it. But at least we talked about it. Yeah. Yeah, he's not going to be getting hauled off mid practice.

No. Right. No. He'll be very aware of what's going on if. If we get to that point. Yeah. That's my. That's, man. Willie?

been legit good since the start of the 24-25. His net front game, defensive improvements, and hitting slash physicality is hand slash passing, which are all elite, all caps. I'd like Rett's thoughts on this, please. Nope. Well, well, I can't do it because he's not here. Uh, it is weird

because when he arrived versus now, like that's a very different hockey player. Like they're using him on the penalty kill. He's much more physical. He's more defensively responsible. And he's certainly not a 115 point guy anymore. but if you view this as a reclamation project after year one or even year two here, you've turned him into a good top six winger. It's just a very different top six winger than the one you acquired in trade.

Yeah, you just can't look at the return salary. You can't never do that. And don't even look at the signing bonuses in the structure. I think maybe Williams a little bit further down the line than a lot of people would be on this. Like that's clear. I don't think his, I mean, elite. Yeah, he might be very good, not elite anymore. I don't think of him as being overly physical.

I mean, I guess he's taking some runs. it guys. More fiscal than he was, sure, but no, it's not Tom Wilson out there. No. So. And I think part of that is his realization. I am a little bit older. I'm not,

I'm not going to get to 100 points again. It's just not how it's going to be. So let's, let's be the best Huberto we can be right now. Well, look, he's married to this organization with the contract. Yeah. And so it's like, okay, how are we going to make this work? Aska, Huberto, how are we playing?

What do we need from you? how can you help this team pull the rope? Because in other teams, you could probably just let them fly the zone and, you know, like just go create offense. Don't worry about the rest. This team can't win that way.

He's doing what he has to do to help this team win. Is he? I mean, because he missed those games. He doesn't play a lot. He hasn't played a lot. He hasn't played a lot. Five games, one goal, one assist. Nineteen 42 in terms of average ice.

He caught her in Frost. We'll see tonight. Yeah. Huska liked them. All right. Yeah. All right, William Holden. Willie.

R&B 6. 99. What was with that umpire's strike zone last night, zero consistency? Go J's. Oh, and Trade Wager, Mission McKenna. A lot there. You know what? When you go 18 innings, there's going to be some missed calls.

I always go look at the umpire report cards if I feel like it's egregious. thought you had a pretty good job last night. There's a few misses, obviously. There's a few misses. But I think he was like a 96% consistency, which is like a well above average grade for umpires. So it, it feels like you're always getting screwed because we got fan goggles on, but last night was a well-unpired game by the home plate guy. Do you like, do you like the microphoneed ump? It takes a bit to get used to. Um, and I think they got it on a delay for cursing on the Fox broadcast. And so you'll be going to break and he's like, I got a gate right. And you're like, Okay, I didn't need that.

But I do like hearing the like, okay, the catcher gets dinged. Then he says like, hey, Ernie, you got a moment. Like I'm going to go walk around to buy time for the catcher. Like that sort of stuff is pulling the curtain back something we don't see. But it's not perfected yet, I'd say. I like it. It's different. I don't hate it.

Yeah. Yeah. Don't hate it. I don't like the Fox almost impossible to see Strikebox because SportsNet is so prominent. Yeah. And a fox is like the light of shading. And if the catcher and upyer in the wrong spot, you can't even see it. Opeaky.

Yeah. Very lightly shaded. And it's with the wrong ad behind it and the umpire moving, I can't even see the zone. I'd like to see the zone. Kind of used to it. I kind of surprised you being a J's Hawk. You're not watching the sports net one.

I watched both last night. So I'm just back and forth. At home I was watching Sportsnet. After curling, I caught a couple of innings. It was Fox. You can't be going down to Ken Rosenthal on the field, right? Like, just the level of, expertise that surrounds the Fox broadcast is better.

I think they probably have a better production truck. There's a little more talk about game nuance. But I love Dan Shulman as a play-by-play guy. And if you're a Jays guy, like, God, you've been listening to these guys all year. It's weird to watch and play without them. So, you know, they're two really good broadcasts. Buck is so, I mean, he's getting more Buck. He's really getting into that thing.

And you don't like it when they go down to Hazel May and who is this other guy? who is this skinny, lanky guy whose coat's too big? It's like, who is Caleb? Caleb, who the fuck are you? Caleb Joseph used to be a backup catcher back. Oh, yeah, great. We only go to him like two or three times a game

because he's got, I mean, he must be doing so much insight for these other networks and stuff. No, I don't think it's not. We're very lucky to have Caleb Joseph for a moment thoughts on the game so far. No, and Kevin Polar makes sense. L.A. guy played for the team, Superman and Centerfield for those 15-16 teams, but yeah. He's very manicured.

He's well-groom. The beard is this. and the eyebrow. Everything's, everything's, LA, buddy, come on. Getting work done? What's LA?

You got? Maybe. It's L.A. Clearly I'm not too concerned about that. Phillip. Who do you think might be the first coach fired? Well, let me take a gander at the standings.

Generally, that's going to be. Either that or sort by goalie save percentage and that's usually the first guy is the kid gunned. It's so not fair. So near the bottom, you got the flames.

Coach just got a extension. Sharks, second year. Orsovsky, he's not going to go anywhere. Montgomery's not going anywhere. Boston. Who is coasted it? Oh, they just brought him in. Yeah.

He's not going anywhere. Marco Sturm, German. Dean Heson's gone there. That's the new guy. No, Rangers, they already changed. Cooper's not going anywhere. Columbus isn't performing that poorly. Leafs aren't going to change anything.

Buffalo may. Yeah. I can see that. I can see that. It's year one for talking Philly. Anaheim, it's year one for Quinville, Islanders. They've reloaded recently. Preds are interesting.

Andy Burnett's year three. Yeah. But they're not struggling. They're 500. Interesting question. New coaching in Vancouver. Obviously, the Panthers aren't doing anything. Kings should have fired the coach last year for the,

Steele. Oh, that's definitely good. It's interesting. I don't know that there's a great candidate out there. That's a good question. Wild isn't. I don't know. Research on that.

Anyway, there's so, Philip, we don't really have an answer for you. I feel bad. You threw down $1.99 there. That's huge, though. I just Googled Philip.

We'll say, we'll say this. It's a very, it's a very tough question to answer. So in that sense, good question by you. That's what I'll go with. John Heinz is the head coach of many.

Ah, Evanston, I believe, went to Columbus. That's correct. Yeah, that's great. You've got a tough start. I don't take Marty St. Louis getting fired. Pittsburgh, Dan the man. Can't fire him.

Got an extension. I just got no deal. Don't care. Here's a new one. All right. So that's that. Is that it? That's all.

That's all. So that's how that works. Every day, we do the super chat during the course of the show. People chime in. We put the comments. comments up and and the money comes in. And it was actually someone within our network, because we're not super. It's like, what's a super chat? I don't even know what this is. They said, well, some of our podcasts and some people are doing it and then picking a charity

and putting the money that way. Okay. Let's let's give that. Let's give that a try. We had no real thoughts going in. Here's a label coming in. I felt back the other day. We wrapped the show and then two had come in late. I hope you guys understand. Hey, it's not like we're shafting you on it, that your money is still going to a good... I think we hung around until after Tommy to read them, but you know. William.

Willie. Willie, Willie, Willie. Pinder and Boe appreciate the insight. Heart emoji, you beauties. I'll be in Calgary in March with a high school bud to play some pond hockey, eh? And fade the casino. What of beauty.

Well, good luck with all of that. Sounds like one of our boys. Yeah, good luck with all of that for sure. So anyway, just like that, there's another $4.99 that comes in. So we were, you know, the people on the network were like, hey, you should try the super chat thing. And we're like, sounds great.

It's like, do you guys have a charity in mind? And, you know, we have a bunch of different charities to support. We love having kids sport at our playoff draft. Obviously, closer to home is the charity that has the Christmas campaign. We support with our silent auction. And my folks, heavily involved in the charity. And they keep like, you're all right.

And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, mom. And so what they said is like, look, we're old, we're in our 70s, we want to get younger people aware of this charity work that we think super impactful in the city and they hosted a cocktail party at the house and it was like, all are you bringing like five couple friends and this had happened like weeks before

we had this super chat conversation. I was blown away hearing about the youth centers of Calgary and I pitched it to you guys and said yeah, it sounds great. Amel, our network producer was like, that sounds awesome. And that was the tip of the iceberg in terms of just learning about the charity. And there's been massive spinoffs since that one night with people that were there that said, yeah, we are going to direct attention, cause,

marketing towards us, whatever it is. Today, earlier this morning, Jane Walkowitz, who started Youth Centers of Calgary, came in. We presented her with over $7,200 of Super Chat money. And she has a chance earlier this morning, which will play now to tell us about how the charity works, where the money goes, and what the future holds for the youth centers of Calgary. Nice. See you, buddies. We are here with Jane Walkowitz from Youth Centers of Calgary. Jane, we've been collecting silly little comments for a year and we're super excited to raise over $7,000 for use centers of Calgary. But I thought it'd be a great opportunity rather than to boast about what we've done to talk about what youth centers of Calgary does in our city. And I guess for

the people watching the show that have contributed money, give them a little more insight on what's happening with this proudly raised money. Well, thanks, Ryan. First of all, over $7,200. Thank you. It's incredible what we can do with that money. We buy food. We buy school supplies, art supplies, sports equipment, all the stuff that kids need after school every day. And it's amazing. So thank you. I have been challenged the last three and a half weeks with a teacher strike.

I cannot imagine what's going on in communities that are struggling more to get by than, you know, how fortunate we are to live where we live and the support networks that we have. never mind that I've got parents and family. What's it been like the last three weeks that you sent us in Calgary? It's been hectic, but it's been incredible. One of the silver linings of the pandemic was that we got the chance to learn what it's like to completely switch gears and do something different depending on what the needs are. So this time, we were ready when the teachers struck, we started opening during the day. And in the two communities that were in Ogden and Forest Lawn, both really low-income neighborhoods, families already struggle to meet their kids' most basic needs. We knew that we could give them an open house a safe place for the kids to be every day after school.

So lucky for us, we co-locate in communities where kids don't have enough. They can easily access what they can walk to and from school and home to. us every day after school and during the summer months. And we keep them safe and fed. And safe is big because the two neighborhoods we're in have high crime relative to the rest of the city. And kids are untethered. They can wander around do whatever they want. So we keep them out of harm's way.

So you've been dealing all day, full shifts with this strike. Incredible stuff. You've got the two locations. Yeah. One of them has just recently come on stream or whatever you want to call it. It's just been opened. It started as one. It feels like this thing's kind of blown up on you in the sense that, you know,

it used to be one house and now it's growing and now you see need elsewhere. And it sounds like you've made some great connections, fundraising was too. Yeah, we've made great connections. Well, you guys throwing a cocktail party for the 40-somethings was very helpful, opened all the doors for us. This idea came to me 30-some years ago when I lived in Chicago and had the opportunity to work in the inner-city projects at the time, one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in North America. And it was from that experience, fast forward through a long career. It was that experience that made me realize and my colleagues that if kids who are otherwise statistically destined not to thrive in life for all kinds of reasons, no fault of anyone's,

had three things, a safe place to be a kid, consistent access to healthy food, and relationships with adults who truly care about their future, that their chances of thriving are just that much better and breaking the cycles. And so I've been doing this work for 15 years, the two houses, yeah, it's blown up and lots and lots of interest. We're working with one of the universities. Hopefully they want to start something. We'll all oversee it. We can do it all under the umbrella. It's a very simple, relatively inexpensive model. All you need is a house and a bunch of really nice people who want to see kids thrive. I know you've had a lot of people come through.

You've had open houses. You want, you know, when people can see the youth centers themselves, I mean, gosh, it's easy to believe in. You had a few Calvary Flames roll through, and it sounds like they have been incredibly committed to helping you guys, you know, keep the fridges full. and chase those great fundraising goals you've got. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. It started with Andrew and Claudia Mangupani.

They worked with us for a couple years and with the Italian Center and fed the kids, ran our hockey program. These are guys that show up. They don't, you know, they don't come just for a photo op. They, because, and the photo ops are pretty adorable, I have to say. Everybody's welcome, by the way, to drop by, either center. but they'd show up in the minus 28 and put on their skates and skate until the kids were done. And then Justin Kirkland and Jonathan Huberdow and his lovely wife, I believe it is, maybe not.

Fiance wife either way, yeah, one of the two. Yeah, they were showing up and they've offered to help us throughout the year this year. and it's going to be an amazing year, our hockey program, to watch kids who have never put on skates and would never otherwise have the opportunity to put skates on. These guys with the Flames Foundation have given us all the equipment, tickets. The kids were at Hubertos Box last week. It's a labor of love, and these guys have really stepped up.

That's amazing. And it's funny because, you know, hearing from, behind the scenes that they're involved. Like, this isn't a thing where it's like, hey, let's be there. Let's get a big photo. Like, they truly are cared and connected to the cause. No, they are truly care. They truly care about the cause.

It shocked me last year how they were willing to be out in the minus 28 with these kids and not. And then they just didn't come in until they were done, as I said. But yeah, it's the nice thing about being small and nimble is that we can adjust depending on who wants to put some time and energy into what we do. And hockey's become big because we've got these incredible guys who said an example and care. So it's perfect. A couple quick questions. So I've heard some of these stories about, like, you know, obviously you're impacting youth incredibly.

And to your point, if it's food, it's a safe place and it's an adult that cares about their future, just those three things can really alter the course of. someone that might be a challenge for society versus a contributing member or society, even a leader in society. Who are the people that are working at your centers? How do you get, find, I guess, just the programming? Like, how do you operate like that? Because it sounds like there's a lot of people that have in spots you might not expect

that have come in and been really important for you. Absolutely. Our staff are largely kids in university, kids who've graduated from university. wanting to get into law school or med school and they, you know, want to participate in the community and have relationships with young people. People just show up. If I get a phone call, someone says they want to help, they want to coach, they want to mentor, they want to do homework help. They want to do yard work. They want to read with kids.

We find a spot. Yeah. And they, and that's that's the key to our success. is the people who lean in. Yeah. Amazing. And finally, what, I guess, what is the future hold? You know, you have lofty goals. You've grown from one to two locations, but the need certainly doesn't stop. Well, this is a replicable model. It's simple. It's, it's, as I said, relatively inexpensive. Costs $100,000 a year to incarcerate a kid. And a lot of kids can end up on the wrong path

because the communities have nothing for them to do except belong to something that isn't healthy for them. I think, and I've spoken to a lot of different people who want to do this, we'll develop the template so that we can essentially hand it off to anybody who wants to start a youth center in an underserved community. I'd oversee it, and sky's the limit.

We could have one of these in every underserved community in Canada, if. Sure. The opportunity opportunities were there. Well, it's an incredible start here in Calgary. Thanks so much for being involved. And if someone's watching to say, oh, my gosh, I want to know more, I want to figure out how I can help, would you drive it to your website? Is that the best thing today?

Our website, eucentersofcalgary.com. My email address, Jane at Eucentersofcalgary.com. The phone number's on the website. Call me anytime. Come by for a visit and just, and I'm sure you'll light you. up. All right. Thanks to you, viewers, over $7,200 for the U. Senators of Calvary. Jane Walkowitz telling us more about the great cause you've, I guess, spearheaded. So thanks so much for what you do.

Thanks, Ryan. Thanks, everybody.