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Starting point is 00:00:00 So, I mean, we're obviously, we're getting ready for the Galgary flame season. A year ago, we did not have a lot of high expectations. We figured this could be a non-playoff year. Yeah. We'll see. Rebuilt. Rebuilt. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:00:21 We'll see what the goal he's all about. Should be excited. He should be a full timer this year. And then they tied for the final spot in the playoffs. Now, they did miss, but don't have expected what came. 96. So you'd think we'd, hey, we've learned from our mistakes. But we sit here, I don't think it's going to be a lot.

Starting point is 00:00:38 year. I don't expect there's going to be playoffs. So the goal he's going to play probably a little bit more now. There's some talk down at the dome about 97, not as much in this room. Oh, boy. Dressing room 97's the time. Yeah. Yeah. One more point. That's all they need it. Yes. Yeah, I get it. And I can appreciate the optimism. You know, look, there's, there's a ton of compete in that room. I mean, that was displayed many, many times last year. I still have the same questions. You guys probably do as well. You know, we wondered about the offense. where was that going to come from last year?

Starting point is 00:01:09 And then it showed up in a few spots that it needed to come from. Nazim Cadre, Johnson Hubertow, go down the list. The goaltending beyond expectation. So can Wolf do that again? And it's probably a redundant question because doesn't feel like he's going to have to be able to do that again. Or goaltending in and of itself is going to have to be as good. And that's a tall ask. And then you've got the Rasmus Anderson case that, I mean,

Starting point is 00:01:37 that's not going away anytime soon. And I think that Craig Conroy has managed it well to this point. Let's be honest here. If there was a deal that made sense that was even close to being what you feel you need in return via trade for Rasmus Anderson, Connie would have done that in the offseason. He would have done it, right? And we wouldn't be talking about it. But instead, here we are. And, you know, people are wanting, okay, well, what about the possibility of a contract extension?

Starting point is 00:02:06 Can't dismiss it. For me, it's unlikely unless the Calgary Flames overpaid in term and in money. And I don't think that they're in the business of doing that. So just if it's a distraction or if it's just pure media content, it's going to be there on Anderson and the Calgary flames, not just in Calgary, but league wide until the matter is addressed one way or another. So if they're looking for a certain price to be met, what is that price?

Starting point is 00:02:32 And is there a template for that deal? I always talk about that Lindholm deal because it's looking really nice with Restevich and Gridden looking especially strong in camp. Like is it player, prospect, first pick, pick? Like it turns into being quite a haul for Linda who wasn't good for his two months in Vancouver. Yeah. You know, and you're right, all of the above is applicable. And then if there is a contract extension that comes along with Anderson, I think that would be automatic, wouldn't it?

Starting point is 00:02:59 If you're a team that's ponying up all of the resources needed to close that deal with the Calgary flame. So then you get into that territory. of sweetener. And I'm also wondering about, go back again now, to Calgary's interest in Keandre Miller, then with New York Rangers, and how close that that got.

Starting point is 00:03:20 I think it got reasonably close until, I think it was Carolina, threatened the notion of an offer sheet, and then the flames just went, okay, yeah, well, I guess we're out of the mix on that. If Calgary had landed Keondre Miller, again, we're probably not talking about rest of Ms. Anderson. Maybe they, you know, Conroy would have felt like, okay, we're good in that

Starting point is 00:03:41 area on defense. So let's maybe acquire some other pieces to help our scoring and all of that. So, yeah, I mean, Ryan, you mentioned it. I think a little of the above. Typically, when we talk about players of this magnitude, it's always an NHL player. It's always a prospect, and it's always a draft pick. And the quality of each, I guess, depends on whether or not the extension goes along with it. I guess frustrating is the word I'll use. Because I was listening to the boys, hazy bee and noodles and the boys there the other day talking about the

Starting point is 00:04:16 leaves, obviously, and about what they could use and eat some depth. And Triliving wants top six, this. And you look around the league, could really use some center help. And it's like, it just feels like Nassam Khadry would be such a good fit for so many teams. He's got that dog in him, as they say. He's got to want to win a cup again because he's tasted it once. He's got a no trade, but I can't imagine if there's got to be a lot of scenarios out there that would feel right for him. And all of a sudden, caps going up, there's fewer years left.

Starting point is 00:04:45 It's four years. It's seven million, but it just feels like there's an opportunity there, but it still feels like a long shot. Does it rightly feel like a long shot to you? It does. And more from Calgary's standpoint than any of the teams that would have interest, and there'd be many teams with interest, not just the Toronto Maple Leafs. I mean, you look around the Vancouver Canucks need some help. The Montreal Canadians are still in the market.

Starting point is 00:05:13 Go around the league. I mean, Doug Armstrong joked about it, but he said 27 teams are essentially looking for the same forward. And really, you know, he says it tongue in cheek, but the same applies when you're looking at a top three or a top four defensemen, especially a right-shot defenseman. All teams need that type of player. But then what does Calgary do?

Starting point is 00:05:34 I mean, if you're talking closer to the trade deadline and the season has not gone the way that the flames are hoping, expecting, okay, then at that point maybe. But any time prior to that, then it's going to take, at least in my opinion, a tremendous overpay by the team. And now, if we're being specific to Trilling in the Toronto Maple Leafs, they spent a lot of assets in the last couple of years. They really have, you know, at the trade deadline, inquiring help on defense. and some of the other areas. You know, Scott Lawton, who it was announced earlier today, is out week to week with a lower body injury, which he's sustained last night against Detroit.

Starting point is 00:06:14 They gave up a decent prospect in Grubankan, and then a conditional first-round draft pick. This guy's playing fourth line for the Toronto Maple Leafs. And he's a better player than that. And I'm not belittling, you know, what Scott Lawton is capable of. I guess when I'm zeroing in on the Toronto Maple Leafs, curleaving might have to keep his powder dry for a while

Starting point is 00:06:34 because his cupboard of assets is running a little thin. Would it be fair to say the flames are going to start this season with the goal of 97 points? And then if things don't go like they did last year with the 5 and 0 start, guys performing better than you would have expected that they might be ready to sort of, what would be the word, I guess, like flip the switch into like maybe a light tanking mode. Like maybe don't play Wolf 3 out of 4, play them 2 out of 4. And we'll have the chat with Coleman who's got two years left. the near the end of his career.

Starting point is 00:07:05 We have the awkward conversation with Nazim. Like, look how old you are. Look at your term. Do you want to win? Do you see them sort of having that? Like, we hope it's good, but if it's not, we've got a plan B. Yeah. And look, they wouldn't be alone in that area.

Starting point is 00:07:18 But that has to be their goal is trying to duplicate what they accomplished last year and then some. And maybe that's a little too lofty, given how we look at the roster and the holes that we expect to see. but their focus going into the season is no different than the majority teams in the league. Look, we're all starting at point zero on game one. So, yeah, you know, we've got, I'm sure that management group has the same sort of offices that every team in the league has with whiteboards over here. They've got lists of expiring contracts, both RFAs and UFAs. Then they've got their pro-scouting list of the players that would be a good fit

Starting point is 00:08:00 and the assets that they might want to spend to give up all of that stuff is just a day-by-day process. But I think in Calgary no different than any other team, it starts with hope and optimism. And maybe a little expectation, too, from ownership standpoint, of why are we talking about taking a step back? Let's see where we're at, at least around Christmas. And then you start having to have those difficult conversations.

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