Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - USA Wins Gold 🥇 | FN Barn Burner - February 23rd, 2026

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

FULL EPISODE | FN Barn Burner: Boomer, Pinder & WarrenerTIMESTAMPS ⏰1:00 Intro Banter2:00 USA/CAN5:00 Americans Taking Over?? 10:00 Best On Best17:30 Canada Was Better18:30 Roster Changes CAN25:00 Matthew Schaefer34:30 Crosby Injury 37:30 Injuries 39:00 Hellebyuck 43:00 McDavid 47:00 USA Party50:30 Olympic Super Chats01:02:00 Kadri Talk01:15:00 Coleman Talk01:23:00 Pinder Report01:49:00 Bet36501:54:00 SuperchatsSubscribe to BarnBurner on Youtube🚨➡️ / @FNBarnBurner 📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiBARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/flamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTShttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9SHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Powered by @bet365. Whatever the moment, it’s Never Ordinary at bet365. Download the App today and use promo code:NATION. http://www.bet365.ca/ 👍🏼 McLEOD LAW https://www.mcleod-law.com/👍🏼 VILLAGE HONDA https://www.villagehonda.com/👍🏼 OUTDOOR DENTAL https://www.outdoor.dental/👍🏼 Crystal Waters Plumbing Company https://crystalclearcalgary.com/👍🏼 BON TON MEATS: https://www.bontonmeatmarket.com/index.html👍🏼 The Hearing Loss Clinic: https://hearingloss.ca/👍🏼 Vena Nova https://venanova.com/👍🏼Templ: https://drinktempl.com/👍🏼Canadian Rocky Mountain Resorts: https://crmr.com/👍🏼Renfrew Chrysler: https://www.renfrewchrysler.ca/Reach out to [e-mail] to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!Producer: Jack Haverstock#NHLPlayoffs #Hockey #HockeyTalk #Playoffs #StanleyCup #EdmontonOilers #StanleyCupFinal #NHL #CalgaryFlames #NFL #NFLFootball #edmonton #calgary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well, here we are again. A lot of us these days. Back in the McLeod Law Studios on a, like I say, it's a beautiful Monday. It's not crazy warm like it's been. It's what, uh, supposed to warm up today. Zero. Really.

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And the money that comes in by way of donation from use, from y'all, all y'all will go to these youth centers of Calgary. Cloud Law, LLP studios. A little somber yesterday. We've been reflecting, I imagine, over the last 24 hours or so and what we watched and what it means. Still kind of a bummer?

Do you think if we called Shane King or Peter Klein, they could review that when there was eight guys on the ice and it hit their skate, but then they didn't call the too many men? Or is it maybe too late? I call them for everything. Whenever I need advice,

they're like, it's great to hear from you, boom, it's not really what we're, it's not really what our expertise is. Peter, I wanted to do, what kind of yeast

do I need here with these buns? But I'm just, like, is this compost or recycling? Can it go in the compost? Because it's confusing to me. Some stuff can go in both and ones only,

I just need to, I call Peter. Thanks. Okay, Shane, I'll do that. Shane didn't tell you to call me, did he? Yeah, he did.

Yeah, I think, um, in the U, this is that you know I don't know that they're going to make movies about it in 20 years well they can use AI to do it dean it only takes a couple but so prompt lines it'll be easy but it's uh when you snap a drought against your most hated rival in that fashion on that stage it is the things that scripts are made that's that's beautiful stuff Was it the fashion at all, though?

Because it wasn't like they out played Canada, right? It was more just the stage. It doesn't matter when you win. There's no style points, right? They just want. They finally beat the Canadians who are only cocky about one thing and it's hockey. Otherwise, it's all. And no longer shouldn't be.

And polite and, oh, there's such nice people. But when you start talking about it's our game, it's our game, it's our game, and all this sort of thing. So I think one thing, just kind of seeing different people react. reacting on online and that is the scar tissue that is there was there for us hockey fans became evident with just how emotional and how huge the win was to see the players choking up about it to see you know i watched i watched the chicklets guys just to see how they had the the biz whitney dynamic Canada versus us and just to see those guys like it was granted whitney played but what it means to the American hockey fan,

I think we take a little bit for granted how many times we've beaten them specifically over at best on best. Yeah. And best on best. When they win at a round robin at Four Nations, that doesn't matter. The finals is the one that matters.

And it kind of felt to me like the Four Nations final was the script flipped of what we just watched. I thought the U.S. were the better team. And, you know, you had Bennington, steal you won at four nations. And then, you know, your goal is miraculous. USA gets goalied. Candace says, we're still on top.

And to your point, let's say you've played six or seven best on bests, you're not going to win them all when it's the two top in the world, right? There's also something. And they're getting better. They're catching up. Catching up. Yeah, like in terms of just number of bodies playing hockey, there used to be a massive chasm between Canada and the USA,

and that's not the case anymore. And, you know, we've talked about, developmental pathways and you develop differently. You say in the States, you're going only with your birth year. It's not two years of the time. We know they have a U.S. national development program. There isn't an equivalent in Canada. We can discuss how they're different, but it is not Big Brother,

little brother anymore. It is the top two countries in the world at hockey. I think we'd better even pause that and go, we might be the little brother. I wouldn't have watched that game and thought that, but I think it's coming in the sense of like the numbers. No foresight to think that the Americans have more people and they're getting more into hockey and now they just won the Olympics that may be more.

Yeah, in 12 years, if you had to ask me who I think is the best in the world, it's probably states the numbers that suggest they've got the best chance at that. What they haven't done yet is produce continually the best players in the sport. They've got a lot of stars, but who's their superstar? Is it Eichael? Is it Matthews? You'd take McKinnon, McDavid, Crosby, over all of those guys, right? There's another Connor out there.

Another Connor. The plays for the Americans. Isn't that? Yeah. He's better than what the kids. Canadians out. Okay. Yeah.

And was goal-tending why they lost Sunday? I mean, not their own goalie, but Hellebuck, yeah. Right? Yeah, I was thinking about that afterwards. I don't even, he was awesome. He was really, yes, he was awesome, but it was also just a matter of circumstance. And it was, I kept saying it to the people I ran into yesterday. It was just a good game.

It was great game. Like, we don't have to get into the weeds of, oh, Hellebuck beat us. Well, he was part of it. But Bennington made some saves too. Yeah. Like it wasn't a completely one-sided affair. You have an empty net. You miss it.

Faber hits post post, post. Yeah. Think don't. You like robbery of tapes on the goal line with your paddle. Could we have had a penalty? Should we have had a per? It's a good hockey game. It's why it has the makings of that legendary game.

And it'll be viewed through the USA lens different than we see it. Because they hadn't won for so many years. And it's Canada. and they were, you know, they were, they were. They were. Their backs were against the wall, and Canada was the better team, but they found a way despite all of it. And can I say that it's so fresh in our memory, well, we've felt good going in. We are the world beaters because we won last February, the Four Nations.

That's a made-up hockey tournament. I like it more than this one, but yeah. But you're, just let me finish. You're talking about the importance that the American hockey fan is feeling it. it's Olympic gold. Yeah. That is a, it's the biggest stage,

the most unique winning you can do. It's not a, it's not a Stanley Cup, it's not a made up tournament. It's not, these are the Olympics that have gone on for a millennium. Right?

Yeah. So it's going to hit closer to home for even the more casual fan. There would have been people watching the Olympic gold medal game that didn't give a rat's ass about the four nations or hockey at all yeah right like this is a USA yeah this is Olympic hockey this is important so there is that side of it if you zoom out this is why

we were yelling and screaming for more best on best for the last 16 15 14 years before four nations it hadn't been since sochi and how insane is that that we've robbed ourselves of this every at least four years and potentially even two years which is what it'll be now because they are going to go back to France the one after is going to to be in Utah and you're going to drop World Cups staggered two years in the middle of those Olympic four year blocks. So we needed this. It was taken away from us.

There were some bad circumstances around it. COVID for one of the Olympics. Pyongcham is not a place for the time zones worked well to go to the Olympics. But we have it back. Best on Best. I am somewhat concerned because the best on best is turning into, and again, the Russians were out. I think they would have had something to say.

Another good team. Yeah. I'm going to get bored of it. like I'm I guess I'm making I'm I'm not saying I'm is that a question that will become a concern because the American women are kicking the that one's more than crap that's a two-team tournament I know but it's the odd time there's another team that's put its foot in the door in hockey yes it's best on best and yes it's been very entertaining but who are you circling that it's for the next tournament Yeah, I mean, if Finland has Barkov, I think they're much better.

Swedes could be better than the world paper. Much better to the point where Bet365 is going to... No, and to your point, if Russia gets back in, and you've also watched two of these in the last 12 and a half months. That's never going to happen again. It was only a circumstance of them trying to get something on the books before the Olympics that you're going back-to-back years. It's not going to be every year of this.

It's going to be every two, and there's ways you can augment. It can be a World Cup, and the other could be a Ryder Cup, where you do a best of three against a rival. You can swap those teams around. You can do some in Europe. It feels very unique because the NFL is the NFL, and they want to go global, but they don't, they're only one country with all the players from.

They're not best on best is what we produce and what we provide. Like there's no, so basketball. Not really in the sense of the- So the only other comparable is soccer. Yeah, and their best tournament is nothing to do with the Olympics. But it's so global that, like, if I was going to design a World Cup. What's the model? Eight teams.

but they've got to be good. No, I agree, and I think there is. Let me sell you. Because we just watched a tournament with 12, and there was too many bottom feeders. I don't need to see France again. I don't see Italy again. And then those other teams that have some NHLers,

like your Germany's, those teams I'm not worried about. But like, it's the Denmark, Germany, like let those teams play in to join the group of hockey nations. Because you've got seven countries that continually produce NHL stars. It's Canada, USA, it's Russia.

It's Swedish. in Finland and the former Czechoslovakia, which is Czechia and Slovakia. Let everyone else plan for that eight spot. And an eight team tournament would be more exciting than when we just watched, because how many preliminary games actually had a good team against a good team? There's one. And in the end, maybe you could say Czechia, Canada was two. But like, Finland, Sweden was a preliminary round game.

Nothing else. I was terribly interested to watch. Aside from just watching Canada play. So is that the only downside then is just an inspiring hockey to walk? watch. If you're going to go for two weeks, I want to see more of best on best, because Switzerland, while they are respectable, they're nowhere close to where the powers of the sport are. And it's even worse for Italy, even worse for France, even worse for Denmark, right? Yeah. So I was going to ask you guys this, and I kind of mentioned the other day, it's like, when we look at the tournament and take away the spotlight and the stage was Four Nations not a way better experience for hockey fans? It didn't take as long. You didn't have any bum teams and 10-2 finals. And the talent, it was like you're watching almost 100% in the echelers, not like 60% of the tournament.

Because you didn't watch preliminary. I know why. The games were, there wasn't good country against good country. I agree with that. I would say. So, yeah. And I was not, and I was not. The stakes are nowhere near the same.

Well, the stakes are in the minds of the people watching and the stakes in soccer are much. It's not that, though. But I, but it can change them to say. But it's not just the fans watching. It's more to the athletes. Two, true. Yes, yes. Both of those things.

But my point is that these things can change. Like, Canada Cups and World Cups used to mean a lot. How many do we have? I don't know how many we had. I just can't imagine in our lifetime, a NHL World Cup will surpass the prestige of an Olympic goal. Sure. But, I mean, we also had a lot of people that said that tournament last year

was going to suck, and it was very captivating. But that's apples and oranges, not the debate. What I'm saying is that things can surprise us and change. That's all I'm saying. But like I say, I just don't think. In my lifetime, we'll see Olympic gold pale and comparison. You don't necessarily have to be right even. The Olympics, the Olympics or the Olympics.

The tournament itself, yeah, there's no question. Oh, it's 8 a.m., Canada, France, I don't probably need to get up for that. If it's Canada, you ask, Canada suezes, oh, I might get up. So, yeah, from a fan, from a spectator perspective, it's, it's not as for sure. For sure, but the stakes are higher, I get it. But you've got to remember, too, that the, I don't know, if we're even on the same, train of thought but the olympics are completely different because the jamaican bobsled team

wanted to be in the olympics yeah it didn't matter where they finished right like you do you've got athletes in events that are so near and dear to their hearts they live and die for it yeah we didn't watch it and if it's not olympics we're certainly not watching it but for that 17th place finish they're pinning that on the fucking wall and this is when they have kids like it's big I went to the Olympics I was at the Olympics I was at the Olympic Games

I finished 27th so then put your NHL owner hat on or your Gary Betman hat or your head of the Players Association hat just let me play a long for a bit because you're telling me the stage is huge and it'll never change can we name five players off

either the Canadian teams in Pyong Chang or China because the NHL is going to say yeah it's huge when it's the Olympics but only when our guys are there. And I think they're right. Well, you're talking about, if you're calling it best on best, and that's what, Matt, like,

you don't need to get discussed it. We're just going to have a conversation. I'm trying to win you or prove anything wrong or right. I'm just saying the discussions that are happening at the NFL offices. Why do I care what the fucking NHL? Because that's what they're going to, that's what's going to happen is with the NHL and the billioners want. That's what's going to happen.

Okay, well, now we're starting to argue for no reason. There's this, yeah, there's no point in having this conversation. Well, it's fine to have the conversation. It's just I don't care what the NHL owner wants me, as a person, as a human, view the Olympics as bigger than the Stanley Cup final. I'm sorry, globally, the Olympics are bigger. Yeah, like if NHO players are never allowed to go to the Olympics,

is why we don't care about the Spangler Cup. If it's a lesser product, then of course we're going to care more where there's best on best. So what I'm not trying to do is convince you of anything, but what I am saying is what happens to the future of best on best, these are the discussions that are going to be happening. Is that, is anyone caring about what happened in Italy, if the NHL isn't there?

No, okay, so the NHL... Italians care if they're part of the Olympics, though. Right, but we just said it. We didn't give a shit to a China and Junction. This is you being an arrogant prick again, to a certain extent where I'm only worried about hockey and we're only focused on hockey. And I'm saying, well, you know who liked the Italians being in the Italians?

Yeah, the host country. There was a cool thing for the Italians to play in the Olympic hockey tournament. Yes, we got our asses handed to us. But guess what? all those guys that played on the Italian Olympic team what do the Olympics about to play like I understand

what you're saying and financially and best of best but I'm just saying that again I go back to the point of globally I don't care like if I'm a fan and you're trying to grow the game I don't I can't just take into account what the NHL owners want because it works best for them

like it's important to the Olympic people that love the Olympics that the Italian team was there and that the French team was for them it was everything. If you're from France and you get to play in the Olympics, this is the greatest. So we're just going to eliminate those people. I guess, are we doing all the above or

you're saying through the Olympic? I'm just trying to forecast what best and best going to look like in the future. And if people don't want to have the conversation. It'll be very well. I'll show you what's the format. What tournaments is only is exactly what you just said. And it doesn't matter how you create it. It's the top eight countries. And so this is what I'm saying is that

the NHO will want to make a world Cup that is the best 18 tournament. The difference, and that's fine, and we'll watch it because we're Canadian. The difference being that the World Cup of soccer is massive and huge and envelops the whole globe. Yes. NHL hockey

players, best on best for NHL hockey, is maybe, maybe at best eight countries. Maybe at best. So it's such a small subset of sport in general that, yeah,

For hockey fans, it'll be important. But no one else. I don't know why. We'll move on. Let's talk about the game yesterday. Again, just, I'm always curious. I like to kind of eavesdrop in other people's conversations. So just, you know, social media, different podcasts, that sort of thing.

And I think everybody kind of feels like Canada had the better. They probably play their best two periods of the entire, the whole thing, in periods It's two and three. Scoring chances, Hella Buck was terrific. Bennington made saves. Is it, because I feel like there's the one cyrus, it was a good game. If there's, goes post and in Canada, maybe you win 3-1 in regulation, whatever. On the flip side, it's, well, why did Canada, like, McKinnon didn't have any even strength points in the tournament?

Where is the depth scoring? Do we need to pick, do we need to pick more of a team, a second line, a third line? because Garon was kind of criticized for that by taking Miller and Trocheck and those kind of guys instead of Jason Robertson and Cawfield. Sure. Do you need four lines? Do you need just take your best scores? Just take your best offensive guys. And because defensive play at best is we're seeing it kind of deteriorate.

Where do you fall in? I think you're saying it's just a game. But would you look at roster construction differently in four years? I would. Well, I would have looked. it differently this year. I wasn't pumping my fists.

Sirelli. Bennett was off the team. I would have constructed it differently this year. So I'm not in agreement, but to hang the loss on roster construction is ridiculous. They were good enough to win, right? You can't really do it. And it's the same with the

U.S. You're going to say, oh my God, they went 18 for 18 on the penalty kill, Trocheck, and J.T. Miller being there, that's the right decision. Well, if McKinnaham's Sancted net, that narrative doesn't really work. I don't. Right? And so you what we had was the two best

nations in the world at hockey right now, play an incredibly entertaining game. And if you played a five game series, I don't know who'd win three. And that's just it. It's a one game winner take all. Everything's so, and I was like, how do you bring? No one knows better than you.

How definitive things are. Yeah. By just the smallest little bounce of a puck. Bounce of a puck. Canadians are losers, U.S. are winners. If it was flipped, U.S. are losers. Well, you see, you took the wrong guys, you did the wrong thing. Now in

four years, it's like, well, of course you're taking some penalty killers. Do you see what happened in Turin? I guess that's exactly in, uh, it's a good example because they've lost in the, they killed in the quarterfinals. Like it's just, it's just crazy how how much swings just on

literally one goal, one bounce. Well, I don't you're damn right. And it was over it is one goal, one bounce, but it's also one goal, one bounce per game, because they had to go to frickin' overtime. Check, yeah. And then Finn.

They were in our, sudden death the whole time. Yeah, all of this again is, we lose on Wednesday or whatever we did the, now we're having a summit. Now we're having a summit. So do you see any, because I don't like, you've said this.

I just didn't love the way they construct their deal. Did you, okay, so we'll get back. Do you not think, just feels like there should be more offense from a team like Canada? That's what I'm. talking about when he started talking this morning was, be real careful because like, and he agreed,

finally, in 12 years, we may be the little sister. Yes, we have David and McKinner. You're telling me that they're not going to be able to produce high, high, they have higher. Whatever it is, if they scored four or five, even strength goals in three games. I think sometimes maybe we, we overanalyze that because I look at the Americans and they scored one in

regulation against the Swedes and one in regulation against, Canada, no one's going to say they didn't bring enough scoring, right? It's just that when you get to these huge... They lost yesterday, they would have. Correct. And so this again goes to the point of like one bounce, changes the entire narrative around it. Could you have had better tournaments from your middle six guys? Yeah, absolutely.

But it wasn't like the Americans hung a six spot on you, right? It's just a low scoring game where the goalies were great and you had a ton of scoring chances. If they didn't create like 30 plus scoring chances, I would be worried. That isn't what we watched yesterday. It really isn't. Now, could they have finished better?

Yeah, but again, now we're kind of getting into luck. Post, out, post in. Oh, hit the knob of the, oh, there was McAvoy's chest. That stopped that one from going like, oh, the paddle kept it out. Like, if all those go in, Canada can't win this 4-1. Yeah. Well, and how deep into the weeds you want to get? We've brought it up over the last couple weeks because it's,

the Olympics are going on, or you're comparing development programs? You can go all the way down. Like, I read an article today saying, what would we finish in the Olympic medal race? It's one of our worst ever. The 21 medals, which if you sort by gold's first is 11th, if you start by total metals, it's probably like eighth. Regardless, the point being that we're not trending in the right direction, and the same thing can be said for hockey.

Now, does that mean that we have to have a complete overhaul of the approach and what we're doing? No, I think it comes down to a bit of science where numbers matter. Yeah, and you also had your heaviest metal favorite was a speed skating superstar from Quebec that ended up with zero metals. He was a guy that could have four. Like just like the Americans had their star skater falling. It's just things happen.

Halfway through the Olympics, people were saying everything's bleeped, burn it down, we're on pace to get 12 minutes. Well, they finish with 21. They're kind of where they finish in almost every Olympics minus when they hosted in Vancouver won the whole bloody thing because they pumped a ton of cash into the system for that Olympic cycle. Wow. Now we're talking about all kinds of stuff.

And then you think about the smaller countries that did better than us. Well, one of the benefits of being the smaller countries is that you can have one venue that everyone can go to. And if it's Norway, everyone cross-country skis, then there's 26 bleeping medals in cross-country ski or whatever. We can cross-country ski here.

And that would care, yeah. But I'm just saying that if I live in Halifax and the training facilities in Vancouver, yeah. Ooh, that's, yeah, that's not, you know. Totally. The metal counts are just misleading

because, like, the Germans finish really good metals. If you take away the sliding sports, it's almost nothing. It's not misleading. Well, no, but let me finish. And then it's like the Norwegians finish the top of the table.

The most gold is by a mile. It's all one sport. And so if your country doesn't have an affinity for that sport and you love hockey, but there's only two medals for hockey. That's not the same as love in cross-country skiing. Like there's 36 golds to give away, right? If you can't have all the hockey medals, maybe. Right.

And then it's the same in summer because swimming's got so many medals. And if you're a country that loves swimming like Australia or the U.S., okay, there's so much work you can get done in the pool. But if it's a team sport where there's one medal and that's the sport. and that's the sport we care about the most, and it is, it's not going to show up in a medal standings, right? So let's say this, though.

Is that part of the issue? I don't use any issue with it. Oh, no. Well, okay. Because I'm not too worried with the metal standards. I'm not talking about the metal standards. I'm talking about general sports and athletes. Should we be producing more?

Or because we're so hyper-focused on one sport that these kids don't have a chance to even learn if they like anything else. You like hockey? Yeah. Well, then on the ice, morning, day, every day, seven days a week.

We've got to go to Vegas for a summer camp. We've got to go to everything gets poured into one event. Just off top of my head, I would suggest there's more Canadians on the PGA tour than has ever been. There's more top end tennis players in the ATP tour and the way WTA. Then I can recall, there's a ton of Canadians in the NFL, majoring baseball. I don't think that's what you feel is what's actually happening right.

I think we're actually really good at a lot of other sports right now. They just don't get the limelight than hockey does. But you've got seven and eight Canadians on tour and event. That's insane 20 years. going to conceive. Anyway, back to hockey. The roster construction part, and I try and be honest with myself.

Because, okay, when was it announced? Well, the first group was announced long ago when we knew was Sid and McDavid. The first six or whatever. And Braden Point was going to be part of that group. And well, was part of that group was going to be part of this team, but obviously couldn't. And then it was December 31st,

where the rest of the squad was named. So, you know, we were sitting there, boy, Matthew Schaefer would be fun to have. Yep. Well, on December 30th, would you have, were we that, were we that in love with the 18 year old that he was going to be? See, I don't know that you were. Well, we have the show is on you too. I'm just trying to be honest, because it's so easy to be a Monday morning quarterback. I wanted this and I wanted that.

I mean, we loved the kid, but were we really lobbying for the 18 year old? In November, we talked with noodles about Badaard and celebrating. Okay. And so it's not crazy to suggest that by the end of December, we're talking about Schaefer because he's been on a heater before January. I don't know if we had a segment where we lobbied for him, but if you let me guess, I think all three of us would have taken him over Travis Sandheim. Would you feel comfortable with that guess of mine or no? I'm just trying to be, I try to be fair. I know you are, and I'm sorry to 31st. What's your overall concern?

because you keep going back to roster construction and you want to have a debate about it. It's like, well, you could debate, and I'm not stepping on it. I'm just hosting a show. I'm just trying to come up with things we just saying that we've kind of explained that you could take two teams from Canada and you might have just the hole in the flight

and the ointment would be your goal tending. But if you got Kemper on another Canadian team, can you say that when the one team that you thought was best lost? Yes, because it would still be better than France and Italy. And you're telling me that a second Canadian team wouldn't be as good as Slovakia? Yeah. Oh, okay.

Absolutely. The point of getting there is that they're on. There's never a clear cut, let's call it, how many guys did they say? 24. 25. Okay, so there's never going to be a clear cut 25. You've gone to kids evaluations. If you're in tier one and you're at the bottom of the group and the top of

tier two group, they're the same, they're the same player. Yeah. You're not, we're not debating between McDavid and, uh, and, uh, and Bennett, right? Like, these aren't the debates. Yeah, it's Tom Wilson versus Bennett versus, yeah, like, I get it. I'm totally with you. We could totally pull up 10 other guys that could have beat on Team Canada.

It maybe should have been. He's Schaefer, but are. You go younger, bring a Y Johnson. Like, there are, there's plenty of. Chicken Chickrens got 20 goals already on the blue line, on a blue line where we're like, geez, who they could use a few more puck movers. You're big, you can defend, but there's a lot of guys that look like third pair guys, not second pair guys.

Now the Josh Morrissey injury magnifies that. Huge. If you knew he was getting hurt, you might bring old close eyes up in Edmonton there. But I guess at the end. The guy that would help your power play. Yeah. At the end,

that's right. Bouchard wasn't there. 100%. There'd be a lot of other fans going. And if he's just there as an eight only in his insurance, if your power player where to get gets hurt, I like that strategy. Do you want Bouchard on that last power play at the end of the game?

He sure would. When you lose Morrissey the first game of the year, could Bouchard help you more? Like, good. Oh my gosh. That's hard. I know it's. hard. But all I'm getting

is they did not lose this tournament because they picked the wrong roster. The other part of this whole thing is that you usually have four years between you pick these teams, right? And so you allow yourself to understand that guys aren't what they were last time you saw them. Like, oh, in 2002, I really like this guy. Let's bring him to 06. And it's like, well, it's four years later or clearly he's not in his prime anymore.

They built this team a year ago. And so Ty just kind of went to the guys that were there. And so if they were picking this team and there wasn't four nations, I think Jacob Chikrin gets in there ahead of some guys that were. But it's like, well, they were just on this team last year. It was only 12 months ago. They have a bond. They have a culture.

They won the thing. Let's just bring the guys back. I guess what I, I only bring up roster construction. Not to say go back and you win. It's not, it's just now that the tournament's over, who impressed you, who didn't impress. There was some quiet bodies. It was massive for me.

because last year in four nations, I was like, holy, this guy is going to be a massive superstar. And you didn't. He wasn't that. Didn't notice him. And for me, Celebrini, if we weren't sure that he was a superstar already, he led. He led the tournament in scoring chances. It's crazy. He got nine goals last three games.

A poor guy was snake, but crying at the end, you're like, I feel of this kid so bad. He is such a weapon. He's been 19. It's amazing. I think they'll use pen when they write his name down. And to your point, on roster construction, are you more open-minded about taking a teenager after seeing that?

Because I wouldn't be surprised Matthew Schaever looked like a star in this tournament either. The way he moves? Yeah. And, oh, it's a three-on-three to break ties in overtime? I could use that guy. Yeah. You see him in the night, Austin Matthews,

broke the record for goals as a leaf? Oh, it was Schaefer that scored in overtime and spoiled the whole night. I mean, obviously, we're a day removed. But I think that if you don't use what happened, and at least incorporate that into your thinking. It is kind of pig-headed. You've got to look at a little bit

and be while we had a real chance to win the gold medal. Let's not rover react. But at the same time, through the round robin into the quarterfinals and semis, we could have used this. They were dominant. They were the solemn round robin was not the slobber knocked. I just don't think that you will ever.

If you win, you're shutting up about it because, oh, we picked away. And they were a quarter inch away from winning. I just don't think that you can ever. not have that debate. Yeah. Of those roster construction. Because if that guy's there,

that guy's not, right? And they're very equal. It's not. More so on the other side, because if they do not win yesterday, the Americans and Bill Guerin is going to have to answer questions about Jason Roberts and Nicole Caulfield after scoring one goal in a gold medal

game for the rest of his life. After watching the same thing happen in four nations, remember, he didn't take Tage Thompson. Tage didn't just get good this year. like that's even maybe more bold than Robertson not being on this team like tage can play center tage is huge tage wires the puck you said no to that guy yeah it's an amazing event oh amazing like event being yesterday yeah just because we were coming in here to see how many people were on the streets and out they were out watching the game that it had

the that it went the way it did first shift america oh my god they score one nothing if you just said they're not scoring again in regulation. That's it. Yeah, nonsense. How would you have felt? You'd have felt, I hope we get one at least, the tie,

because it did not seem like, it just to me, and I know, it seems to me that offense was harder to come by than I expected it. We sat and watched Czechia, Finland, and all of us, we watched all those games,

and it just felt like, where's, I wonder, where's Stone, where's Marner, where's Horvat, where's, because,

You knew when the top line was out there, but it felt like there was nothing really threatening if the were out there. Nobody did score in the tournament once you got to the elimination play, though. That's the whole thing. The Americans had one in regulation against the Swedes, one in regulation against Canada. Like who scored a lot? Okay, but so what I'm saying is not a thing?

No, because it was, it didn't, against their competition, they weren't bad at scoring. If everyone was scoring the term, you weren't, that's an issue. I think it's just a low-scoring tournament. It's still off. Playoff style hockey where things get tighter. Now, the goal tending matters too. You run it, like Saros and Helibuck were the top two net miners in the tournament

by goals saved above expected, which isn't everything, but it's not nothing. Those are two of the three teams they played on the way to the final. So do you give goalies credit for holding pucks out? I do. It's okay to hold. Suzuki makes that great tip in scores, right? But you didn't. I don't remember here's name yesterday, a whole bunch.

Stone wasn't. Good and preliminary, not real good. once the pace picked up. It's okay to critique guys for, hey, you could have been a difference maker, bud. I don't know where Bo Horvatt came out of to even make this team.

Am I outraged that he was there? Did I, I just thought, well. You could score a bunch of girls before Christmas and hockey Canada didn't look at a shirt. But that's where I don't understand where you had Sam Bennett on the team last year

who made a massive impact, won a Stanley Cup, won a Colin Smith, and you don't, like, that still to me is the one that stands out as, so you get Sorrelli and you got some of the,

even these other guys, Horvatt specifically, and you're not bringing, and you took Wilson, but this guy was like, if the argument is we're going with the guys we know, what I still don't understand what Sam Bennett did to derail his inclusion.

Because I'm with you. One or two players, I don't think changes the outcome and they were good enough to win with who was there. Yeah. you'd love Sid to be there. We're not talking about that enough. We're not talking about that enough.

The consummate winner, the leader. When you needed one bounce, one tip, one play. Just control of puck in certain circumstances, right? Low scoring, one goal game. That's a Cid game. As John Cooper to look down the bench and have 87 there in a sit. Okay, I need some defensive play. I need to get things going.

I need to calm things down. You can use him in so many spots. And it's not because, that's not why the. US won is because Sid wasn't there, but man. You can argue that the reason the Americans lost last year was because Hughes was hurt on defense.

And you can argue that a big part of the reasons the Canadians lost yesterday was that Sid was out. It's fine to say, man. Those are two things changing. Yeah. Right? You're telling me Finland couldn't get one more good look with Barkov there. Maybe they're in the finals. Fuck, I don't know. Right.

This is pro sport. Everyone was missing a good player. I think about what must go through his head. Wakes up yesterday. And in his heart of heart, as Sidney Crosby, I need to say I can't go. Even though if maybe I

can play one or two shifts and so. He's clear. No, I'm not going to do it. It's for the team. And then to sit and think, maybe I could have done something. I just don't think he's close enough

where it was, I know that they're saying it was a game time decision. I'll bet you that's what you said. Or if I don't, if I don't get hurt, could I have, well, that could I have done something here today to change this? And yes, you could have said for sure. And also if you had an empty net, it wouldn't matter. Just like it's,

this is talking for six personal. I know. I know we're talking, but it's like that is we can play though. This is the thing about looking back in time is like the littleest. I guess just specifically on Crosby because it just feels like he's that guy. There's an Elizabeth games it feels like, right?

Yeah, he was With especially after four nations When he stepped up at that event is like, boys McDavid, you're this and Nicknade you're I'm still one of the best in the world Well, I think that's just it I don't think he's not second fiddle to anyone I just feel like you you throw him in that lineup

yesterday and you just have that much more control the game And you already are controlling it, right? Like you just have And what do we keep saying that they felt like they're missing? It was lines two and three. Well, where's Sid play? Yeah, who's driving? Like one, you go one more line on there.

It will be interesting on the Crosby front to see what gets announced and when. There are some significant injuries coming home. Miko Ranton did not play in the bronze medal game. He's a huge piece for Dallas. Crosby, are we talking season? Are we talking weeks? Are we talking days? Are we talking months?

How does that change the Penguins approach at the deadline for a team that's second in the metro? Nealander was missing a ton of time leading in. into the tournament, wasn't practicing with Sweden at portions in the tournament. Kevin Fiala. Hedman. Fiala was that a guy that was going to play with Panarin in L.A. Not anymore. He's done for the year.

Yeah. I just see that. I hadn't heard about the Haman and injure. Headman. Headman was hurt, came back, played two games before the break, and then didn't play in the quarters. Like he was on the bench, but didn't end up not playing against the American. So that's something for Tampa, certainly coming back.

Yeah. Seems that are in tight, like, play. Pittsburgh, like, those are the teams that are worried about it. Fiala. That's huge, right? Like, I think the Morrissey thing for the Jets. Oh, big time. Right.

Is brutal for them. But I think they're hooped anyway, and it might give them more clarity that we can't fill Josh Morrissey's hole and climb out of a 15 point deficit. We'll just ask San Hallibuck to play three of the next four nights. I just hope they're doing that either, right? So, rant and thing? Yeah, it sucks.

as long as it's but if you're Dallas you're going we're going to playoffs we're playing Minnesota in round one anyway get like ready for that yeah hell of buck I thought about all the way in today so if somebody sat down and I don't really follow hockey but I've got my candid jersey on so what about their goalie you know he's really good but he cannot win the big game when the games when the ratchets up like playoffs five goals a game he's just not as good for some reason it's gonna sound like hyperbolic but yesterday punch his tickets of the hall fame because he's got multiple Veznas, the numbers are there, but he did not

have a signature win. Now he's got one. And not just signature win, one where he pulled one off the goal line with the paddle and held, you know, the top team on paper to a goal. Yeah. Like, I think that punches ticket. I can't, I can't deny it. It's not my take, but I'm repeating it because I thought it was fascinating. It's one of those, it's one of those things that

all you didn't win but that gold medal game for us the ending the drought that whole thing it's a massive deal in the US as it should be right it's it's like I said the scar tissue and that I was I see and I know it's scar tissue

and I'm not trying to take umbrage with that opinion I think it's a massive deal because it's the Olympics I don't think it's a yes beating the Canadians is, but that's who you had to be. I think for the Americans, it's Olympic gold. It's both. It would be both, but it's, it's, it's as much sweeter because it's Canada.

Oh, yeah. If they beat the rival Finland, then it's a gold medal and it's great, but it's not quite the same. I'd agree with that. Now, remember, it's a year ago, so memories fade. Americans lost the four nation final and did a late night TV tour with the Kachian. Chuck's talking about the fights. That was a huge deal. And then you win that tournament.

So, you know, I think we've forgotten how big that moment was. Jack's like, my dad's in Alabama. His buddies's like, are you seeing this hockey? They're fighting. That was strictly based on NHL rules and the fact that those boys went out of as hard as they did. It certainly helped a bunch. Without that catalyst, it's not being watched. But whether it happened and it happened, right?

I do believe, and I have a lot of CTE, did not the president of the country text, or tweet something out, X on X before that final game. Don't, like, those things matter in America. Yeah. Right? You get the president tweeting about, is it called? What do you do? I still don't know whether he did that for foreign nations or not, but I don't believe he did that before the final game.

That would drive a lot of people that are casual, not even know it was on. Anyway. It's, it is, anytime you can get better. on best, it's such a huge win for the sport. Because who could have watched that game and been like, yeah, I don't know, it's just a little boring. Like, no, that was a phenomenal hockey game. And when you get these condensed rosters of stars,

holy shit is a good hockey. Boy, I feel like arguing with you today because it was a one-one game. There would be people that don't know the game of hockey that were watching it because it is the Olympics. Yes, it went to overtime, but they still would have, if you're from South America and you're trying, Okay. I'm tuning in because this is the Olympics and it's a gold medal game.

They probably was. All those soccer's only won. Lots of scoring chances, right? That was with the saving grace. The score was misleading in the sense that I think your expected goals was like five to two. It was a seven to eight goaler. It was more than your NHL average. But the goalies were great and the posts were ringing.

Faber, McKinnon, right? We thought it was in. Like, that's the thing is, because I agree with you. It was a one-nothing game, one-one, one. there were some dead there was some dead at times for sure where there wasn't things happening but then you go back so the first shot goes in for the americans for shift and the taves and the double doink and the mac david and celebrini missing five on three power play then the guy that gets high stuck to draw the four-minator takes a penalty of his Canada's rag in the puck now they're going to get a power play then it goes to overtime then the guy lost his teeth wins i'm sorry that's great theater it's crazy crazy theater. It really is. What about McDavid?

I feel for this guy and I don't usually feel for this guy. Cool. I think Connor McDavid has sacrificed everything and anything he is as a hockey player to try and win everything. And he's getting royally screwed and feels like he's cursed and he's stuck in the cultural capital making 12 and a half. What the is going on? your world. Like I am with you. I feel bad for him. I feel bad for them. I don't, I've lost and it

hurts. And I don't care if the Oilers ever win, but if I know what it feels like, and you lose back to back. And then you go and you perform the way you do. And you still can't. So that's a tournament record with the NHL is there for points of the Olympics. It's like another handshade. MVP. MVP. Yes. Oh my God. And I get that they won four nations, but it just, it can't feel as big as the Olympics because of the stage. The world's not watching. No. The world was watching yesterday and you created enough to win.

Like, what's he hanging? You had multiple breakaways, right? What's he hanging his hat on as far as, well, he can hang his hat on it. You're the best player, maybe him. Absolutely. But the best player maybe ever does not give a shit if he's the best player maybe ever if he doesn't win something. You don't want to be.

And it's not like, oh, I can't, wait to get back to North America and the California sun. He's going to Evanston in February. You don't want to be Dan Marino. Nobody lays in their bed thinking, I want to be the best that never won at all. And that's kind of what he's up against now.

And I don't put almost any of it on him. No, that's, like I've continually railroaded their front office because I think they've cost him multiple championships with their idiotic decisions over the last 10 to 11 years. But God, you've got to feel for him. him. All he wants to do is win. He's not sure and he steps up and performs. Now,

I didn't think he had two game seven that was. Well, that's the flip side is the haters will say, well, you look at game seven, game six against Florida and then this. What about four nations? I don't like that. I don't know. But I'm talking to the haters. I'm not talking to you.

Did you? Hators can hate Jack. That's right, Ryan. Those haters. Did he try too hard in the overtime? Yeah. He almost won the game. If you look at that play again, the missed poke has him behind the two defenders and alone on Hellebuck. And Jack Hughes makes a hell of a play as a forward back to get it off him.

I mean, we're going back to the quarter inch bounces game, right? I had more of an issue with McCar and McKinnon's pursuit of that puck after McDavid. Macar is reading, I watched it. McCar, I believe, is reading that McKinnon's going to go get that puck and he's going, fuck it now once Nate gets that and Nate pokes at it and it like we're talking

But he stops skating He should have just went and got it He could have just I'm talking about the ozone But you're talking about the diesel I'm talking about the diesel These don't just get it There's some weird hesitation there

Yeah, chop at get at something Yep He just kind of freezes for a moment And that's all they need He hesitated on whether he should be going And yeah 100% could have got there And got that pocket

Yep I agree That's what we said if you go back to the live stream, we're just like, how do you not get that, how do you not get that puck? You're right there. You're bigger, stronger, closer and faster. Get the puck. And I'll get. And he's the poke in the slot as well that if it just flips a half inch higher, Connor is behind the defense at the hash marks alone on hell of a buck.

It's just all the bounces. And we know how he's wired on the ice when they lose to have the puck at the tip of his stick to hit a goal. post on a wide open net, he may never recover. I would not talk to him for weeks. You can take a private. Until he, until he strikes up a conversation, I got nothing to say. I am so fascinated to see what,

because they do have to return and do their day jobs tomorrow. Like tomorrow. Tomorrow. Uh, there's a party tonight for the US team at a strip club in Miami. Like, I'd have a, like,

I'd have a hard time. Like, I want to watch. What is, what do you do with Helbeck? What happens to McDavid? How surly is Nate? Like there's a lot of guys you're watching to say,

what happens? Who's playing and who wants to kill people? Let's pause for a second. And yes, Nate, too bad. It sucks. A strip club in Miami.

So the fellows that are married and have kids and stuff, so they're all headed to the Miami Pure Plata. Let's pull it up. I sent it to Jack. Like, I'm just curious as to, And this is what the Iowa Olympic Committee and state events over. What happened was they were supposed to fly back to New York.

Now, serendipitously or coincidentally or whatever, that flight got rerouted to Miami due to some serious stories. That was terrible weather on the East Coast. And so for whatever reason, here you are in Miami. Like, oh, shoot, we were supposed to fly to New York. But when in Rome, come party with Team USA. at one of the most notorious strip clubs on the continent. It's quite something.

Is this, yes, but is this just them saying? I don't know. I just saw this before we went on air. It seems very bold. It seems like, hey, if you guys want to come, we'll give you open. And this is an open. To be fair, the 11 people are tight with one Matthew Kachuk who has had two years in a row partying with the Stanley Cup there.

That doesn't mean that. I'm not saying it means any. Well, you did say that they're, you said they're going to a strip club. You kind of said that we're flying back and because we've got rerouted, the whole team's headed to the strip club to celebrate. We shall see. I don't know if in Miami, if you even call it a strip club, if it's just a normal club and people just walk around naked. I don't know how you called it the strip club. You did.

For Calgary, and that's a strip club. I would have been there, people were naked. I don't know if that's normal Miami or not. Maybe that's just going up for dinner. It just feels very bold. bold to promote it as hey team scre like maybe you would go there feel odd that they're it's good marketing Brock Nelson's got to show his grandfather's gold medal off with his

gold diggers they've been invited to the white house that I know okay because I think they're what state of the union that feels Tuesday night is always state of the union that'll be interesting and fun I don't know if he's being serious or not. It's your guy. He'll be electrifying. Oh, so good.

I was a great baseball player. My mom said I was the best I could have played in the majors. Okay, bud. Back to the politics, maybe not. We'll do this and then we'll shift gears a little bit. Super chats, all the money goes to the youth centers of Calgary. Good spot local, local charity doing great things for the young people in our city. Flames and Joyer, two bucks.

Why would you want to end section to game three on? We said it before overtime. It ain't right. Nobody agrees with it. And we can be... O'BiX, I thought it was good. Yeah. Good take, Keth.

He is like the Barbie doll can, right? Like, funny, affable, but don't really love that take. Well, and I think he's saying it just to say, yeah, he's full of shit. There's no way you want to... Okay, well, when the... I don't know if I said, do you do.

So in the NBA go to the Olympics? Yes, sir. Do they ever tie games? Well, no. is not rightful is ties okay but if they were like they they can tie there are over competition exactly right what are we talking i know i know we're all the same page here it's two bucks for the kids and everyone agrees you want to see that played out to its end cheeks be no nan anna hey jack this one's for you bud USA baby we're number one insane game from hellie by

the way but here's my na nana nah to the kids who need it Canada played their hearts out good love you guys that's a good sport cheeks love that she's in with class working man ten dollars I won't lie if I didn't say I want to rub it in just a little bit as an American hockey fan but I won't Canada outplayed them just couldn't finish hella buck finally clutch McDavid still brides me working man so much there ten luxury kids yeah yeah hell about clutch indeed Scott Kerr five bucks fellas maybe we've been too hard on Bouchard nurse, goalies and why coilers can't win

in that cup. We can't win that cup. Cry Baby can't get it. It's a Mick Cry Baby. They should trade his ass, get him on his. I can't believe that we had some Bouchard love at this table. Just a few. Well, I remember, though, the selection one I was in Windermere and you got me in on my phone. I literally

made the case. She's bringing him as an 8 and just in a case of emergency. I disagree. I did say that you could have used him on that power play. I didn't want him on the team. And if I had to choose between him and Schaefer, it would have been Schaefer. put Schaefer of the power play. I feel like I heard a lot of the,

you want that guy on the ice doing that at the Olympics? I feel like we heard that. That was his take. I was in the truck getting rid of cool about my buddies saying that I'm the biggest Bouchard fan ever because I lobbied for him to be an eight as an emergency guy. So one day in like October, you said one nice thing about Bouchard.

So that's your Bouchard story? The day the Olympic roster was announced, we went over it. Your pursuit of being right. It's not about being matched. I just said I love it for him to be an eight. That's it. Sorry.

Sorry if you don't remember that show. That was a passing comment and I don't think you truly felt it. I didn't feel your heart was in that. Still get my balls busted by, my guy. You wanted Bouchard on that. Yeah, you're a Bouchard backer. It's still not really best on best until Russia is allowed back because they would have had something to say about who's playing for gold.

Yes, they would have. It's not a sound like deep everywhere team, but God, there's a lot of stars on that team. Like their goaltenders are the best in the world. It's not close. The D-Corps is a little meh, and there's not a lot of centers that aren't ancient. But the wingers are superstars, the goalies are superstars. You would have seen a lot of Zaddugg and Orlov and guys like that on the blue line. But I mean, the checks and they didn't have a lot of big name, D-Men, and they caused problems. They would be a good team. The lefty 250, Phyllis. You all played a great game yesterday. Sometimes you outplay your opponent and get

goalied or johnnyed that was beyond special to have his kids on the ice have a great week fellows uh good points emotional for sure yeah they loved loved it and didn't like it because i had to dab yeah loved every every bit of that rb six and n n n n it is mcbridesmaids defensive game slash back checking to the same standard as other greats prosby etc wayne was not known for back check it seems as a center he's not as solid defensively. Crosby's a different player. Poor guy.

I don't know about his back checking. He's still the fastest player on the ice. If he wants to back check, he probably can. I had this conversation with one of Bedard's coaches where he told me when Bedard was a youngster and junior that he needed him to play both ends of the ice and swiftly got his ass fired. You don't, you don't,

don't rain in McBride's made right like let him run he gets to do what he wants I'll read off of him thanks Phil Phillips 499 whose career will benefit the most going forward with this win Matthews hellebuck or someone else I don't know what you mean by benefit like whose whose legacy changes the I didn't hear Matthews name yesterday it's hardly at all hellabuck I'd agree with hellbook you know who's who's now tasted winning and it changed the narrative about a guy.

Yeah, Ken Jack Hughes had a good day. Finally won something. Nobody said Matthews was out there whoop an ass. He's actually one of those centers that is quite good defensively, but he didn't dominate the scoring.

Yeah, I'm not besmirching him or trying to say he didn't play well. I'm just saying that if we're talking, how many times have we brought up his name to him? We were very happy when he elected to pass on that one play. Yeah, but how many times have we brought up his name? right now and how many times have we talked about Hellebuck in the last hour? Or Quinn Hughes

or Jack Hughes or Eichol or a Cichuk. Yeah, he was one of the guys. He was not a superstar in the tournament. I think it's Hellibuck's brand to the point earlier. I think that gets him in the whole fame. He's now got a signature W. So let me go. That's that. We'll pivot a little bit. We'll talk some flames here. Speaking of flames today, cross-iron mills.

Up from where we are, at least, up to the north. Cross Iron Mills, a full team Calgary Flames autograph session today. Lineup starts at 2 p.m. The event runs from 5 until 7. So if you've ever wanted to, you know, get up close, get something signed,

see these fellas, press some flash. I'm guessing they'd shake your hand. Great. You want to think signed by week? Don't like that state. Please don't touch me. And then it's going to essentially kick off. It runs until March 8th. The Hockey Heritage Showcase and a collection of authentic artifacts from Alberta's hockey history,

including some memorabilia from the Flames and the 1988 Winter Olympics. For all the details on both events, visit crossironmills.com. Crossiron Mills, proud partner of the Calgary Flame. So yeah, that's today, this afternoon, from five till seven. That map there might not show up as I can see exactly what's happening, but I'll explain. They have dropped pairs and trios of players around them all, so you can literally tour the whole place and the flames aren't just in one place all bogged up.

They're nicely scattered around so you can wander, see all the stores and see all the flames. Nice. Five till seven tonight. I wonder why they had to white out the, get some steps brand of hockey glove. Couldn't paid for that. Maybe, yeah, I don't know.

Probably just a AI. Probably just give me a glove. And AI didn't know what to do. Because AI is, as you said. You should see the new movie it made. Unbelievable. What a movie. What a movie.

What a movie. We'll talk some flames here. As they were going to, as a group, you know, they get all those Olympians back. Get down to work. They, well, they had someone at the tournament. Yeah. I saw Sean Kelso doing media work for Canada. That was great.

Kelsey was there, yeah, looking good. Always dressed well. Yeah. Always dressed well. We have to talk about the flames. Yeah. people. Really?

Fitching that we aren't. Well, I feel like we've got time to get there. Thursday they'll play. They haven't been around much. They haven't played for a while? They've been practicing since what? Friday, I want to see.

Have you guys gone down to, have you watched? Are they at the dome practicing? Some of the Wranglers were playing some games. The big clubs have been off, right? Because, you know, the whole thing in I tally. I just, I feel bad because, honestly, you know me. I love homework.

I just, you're not feeling the hooks yet? I haven't done my flames homework and I feel like I'm a maybe a little I don't want to miss speak. People would be disappointed. They're in here. Well,

let's have their questions. Brett, come on, bro. Oh, what do I want to talk about? They just want you to talk. They just want you to talk about the flames. They just want some flames. So just talk.

Flames. So if I just name names of players. Do this. Just say we're going to do the PINN. Playoff push ahead. I can see it. Go flames. Yeah.

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Do you think they're talking about down at the dome? Oh, well... Same stuff we're talking about. They should have taken that Braden Pahal, you know? He's such a good guy. That's fair to the point I'm getting at is that we're supposed, they wanted, people want to talk about the flames and even the flames down at the dome aren't busy talking

about the flames because they've had all those conversations. You were on the media beat the last like three days. The only thing you're asking is like, what do you guys think about the Olympics? Who's going to win the final? Who are you picking, Canada, USA? Well, we can spin back. Friday, we had our TSN Hockey Insider, Darren,

joined us. And now it was a different, you know, we didn't do a regular slot show. It was a little bit earlier. We streamed it. So maybe you missed it. But we did have drags on. And the topic made its way to Nazim Kodry

as we head towards the trade deadline. But I do think, I think the appetite for change is increasing with Nas. That's not to say that he wants out, but I think that I know there are offers that are available to the Calgary Flames that are viewed as being good offers, offers that would make the flames better. But in defense of Craig Conray as general manager, here's why I think he takes a little bit more time before pulling the trigger.

People around Cogry might go, okay, well, those seem like good offers. The interest seems pretty high. you've got Vinnie Trocheck, who we know is available, and the possibility of Ryan O'Reilly coming into play, we've speculated on Orion O'Reilly for several weeks, but that doesn't mean that he was or is a true trade target, right? Nashville has to terminate, you know, in concert with O'Reilly. So that's what teams are waiting for. So even though the offers are good, if you're Craig Conroy and teams are swirling around those two guys, maybe in conjunction with Cadre or slightly ahead of Naz for whatever reason, I don't know.

Why wouldn't you wait? I mean, if O'Reilly isn't available, well, Nassab Khadry's expected return probably goes up and the willingness to accept that price probably goes up. So there could be more of a waiting game, but I do get the sense that it's going to happen with Khaddy. So there you go. Naz.

The appetite for Nas to leave or to move on seems to be there. Is the trade deadline open again? Like, or the trade deadline? It is. The freeze is off. The freeze get lifted. Yeah. as of last night.

Okay. So the trades can be announced or can be completed starting now. March 6, I believe, is our deadline. Yep. Which is not far away. Next week is the second. It is two to sweet as, as the bad bunny would say. As the bad bunny would say.

As the bad bunny would say. This is starting, all the boxes are kind of starting to get checked. Just like, well, the flame's going to want to move them. well what does nasm what does nasm want well know what nasm wants and the offers are there or the offers seem to be palatable from what dreg says um i guess depending as the host i'm trying to build something well i thought it's interesting that he said why wouldn't you wait my thoughts are because i don't want to be sitting on my hands i brought this up to the day where it's like hold in the bag if it's a decent offer i've said it a million times hence i

this gets a little stale. I'm not looking for a home run. Just get the deal done. Give me your own pick, get way higher. I want to build. I'm going to make room for kids to come in play. Find out if they can play center. I don't need more points this year.

NAS might actually cost me even if it's four. Even if, you know what I mean? If it's a tie game and there's a list of players who can win that game for you, Nasm's on that list. You get rid of them. You're doing this in the standings, right? And you get to find out. So my take would be on the other side of it. I get why he's, well, Drake's is saying, why wouldn't you wait? For me, it's because I don't want. The challenge.

O'Reilly and the other guys get traded and then all of a sudden it's a worst deal. The problem is this is all black box. We don't know what a good offer is. Like, what does that mean when Drake says that? Does that mean you're getting a first? I don't know. If that's the first, you better move off. I think you should be done. No, it's a second and a just okay process. Maybe if we hold out, it's a second and an A process.

Okay, well, now I'm in. But if you're, what is Craig's threshold where he's like, we do it and what are the offers now and how big that gap is? We can only guess. We have no idea. Again, so if it's minuscule, then I would say, let's get her going. But if there's a size of a gap between what he thinks he can get and what he's being offered, I understand the weight. We just don't know what those things are. Again, just to guess, how much salary retention are we talking about?

Is it zero? Is it 50? It's all part of the equation. I would think two million is the number that I think when you look at what he's offering you and how much terms left at his age, that's a palatable number. And it also doesn't hamstring the team with a lot of money like three and a half a year. I'd go. All of a sudden, that's over $10 million of your owner's money. I don't give it.

Of course, the contract, right? Again, easy for me to say. I don't care how much you can retain all that you can. Just get more. Yeah. If it means you're getting more. And we also don't know what, well, if I eat half, I'll give you a this or FD at all, like we don't know.

I think, I'm just happy that this conversation is at this spot because what you have been fearful of and what we've all been fearful of when we look at their history is don't give yourself the BS excuse to get caught holding the bag on this player when you could have moved them for a return and when you could have helped your own draft pick this year and when you could have turned over some more minutes to some younger players. There's just so many things that needed to align perfectly. that it may not be, older player that needs to be playing well,

was playing better before Christmas, but still has shown that he has game left. Okay, well, that's good. Well, the player, it's not a full no-tray, but he's going, okay, he's willing to move. The team has to be willing to move off. That's happening. Would you have appetite from other teams?

Seems like it's there. Can you eat money? All of those things, which have been very cumbersome to this point, they're all lining up. They're all more or less kind of lined up. Yep. I am with you. Do not let this.

Don't fumble it. I wouldn't play him another minute. You think that Anderson, like, honestly, like I understand the, oh, what's the rough? The rush is deal with this shit. That's the rush. The only flying the ointment there is if the teams that want Nossum are just saying, well, I just have to get a firm word on player X first. And then when those sweepstakes are done, we'll circle back.

Because we have seen that happen before where there's the first don't know has to fall before. Okay, well, we didn't get player X. Now we want to talk to your camp. which there kind of again it comes back to conroy do you say that's fine for you but for us we're keeping the player he's he's ready to move yeah we're ready to move and we have offers we're not playing him you're not getting two weeks to figure other shit out if this is your player now is the time to make the decision and not that's fine i'll hang up the phone and you we both move on but we're prepared to move this player in the next 48 hours and they did that with rasmus yeah but the difference

was rasmus was the top right shot to be available and you can do that you just don't want to diminish your return a ton by doing that. We don't know. I think I would love to have this done today. Your return goes to shit if he's hurt. You do you. And it's different because you're, you're really kind of hoping for big return in Erasmus deal.

Yes. With this, you'd like a return, but it's also about getting money off the books and moving on an older, like there's your own pick is the biggest asset you have in play here. There's, let's remind people of that. I don't understand what you keep saying then. It's over. So let's say you keep the team's record would

Deerate so let's say with Nossum the rest of the year you finish fourth from the box got you gotcha Could you be a top two pick like is that if that's the difference in one of these top three mega studs to me? It's more important to be in the bottom five And if you he take he can help you take you out of it I think I agree I don't know if losing him could drop you into the bottom two But keeping him can definitely get you to seven or eight instead of four ride so another way to phrase it is trading solidifies the top five pick it feels like that's yeah and that's what i mean when i say your own pick is one of the biggest assets you're getting in the trade because you're just picking high you're just ours it's not like you have a 20 year old centerman lighting up the a that has been blocked by nazam and he's going to come in and dominate you're now going to start playing wingers

and hLers at center ice which is fine because you don't have long-term centers no and that's you're going to allow you to draft a really good center in the next two years being bad at center it feels like it's hard to see it any other way. Right? I feel like a lot of times we see it here. So why do what's it? What is the, if you have a counterpoint, if you have a trade that you're like,

okay, that's good return. Then I, that's the cutoff. There is. Well, there is. Well, so play it out since we have to have Flames talk. Where's the cutoff? A fifth round pick? God, no.

I think it's a second. I know what you want. Oh, no, I'm just guessing. I'm saying where don't you do the deal? Less than a second. Because when Dregor says there's reasonable deals, that's what I'm including some retention. I'm not alluding to what's reasonable.

I'm saying in absolute, if you're not, if Craig Conroy is going to get fired over this deal, what is he getting in return that gets him fired or doesn't? What's the word? You're right. If you walk out, I got us a third or I got us a fourth.

Where is the guy? No, you're right. I think because of his age, you can't really get fired over this deal, can you? Not moving them is what's going to get you fired. Yes, that's what I'm getting at it. I thought you were talking about like, where do you pull the trigger,

like get the best value, but you're like, for this to be a failure. The other side of it where it's like why, how is, yeah. Like I think probably you're a little too far. I don't know that I disagree with you. But it's if they only knew how little I'd take. Just take it. But that's, but that's what. Yeah.

Because the other side. of it is effort. He's under contract and he can play and it's fine. We're not in a rush to make the playoffs next year. We're going to be same position. Here's one for you. If it was for nothing, could you? Futures. Not, yeah, just. But you, they had to take the whole salary. Is that still a win on the deal for Craig? Because I kind of think it is. Like putting them on waivers. Well, right? But that's my, and that's where we're pro. I mean, we're being a bit. It is. It is.

Because this guy can, how do you have 30 goals plus last year? Oh, right. And I do believe at the same time would be a great asset to whoever gets it.

And do believe they're going to get a good return on it. But to Rett's point, it's going to be hard to lose this deal, given that you're a team that needs to rebuild, and he's going to be 38 when his contract. Yeah.

What point do you not care about getting something in return? Fifth rounder. It's going to go on whatever. And you might as well just keep them. So just for the sake of the debate. or the discussion, I guess. Not to refer,

we need more cadres, not to bring that back. But he's a veteran guy who gives a shit. Oh, for sure. And you need, in a younger room, you need those guys. The question is how many? Because that would be part of it is, we'd hate to lose Naz, the guy in the room.

This is, and this might be with the debate down at the dome, in all honesty. To me, you've got plenty of veteran guys. You brought back, back then he ain't going anywhere and that's great Coleman's awesome

Uyghurs here if you're not trading cadre you're trading Coleman because your return might be better and if you feel that it's important to keep something then fine keep cadre

and pay him and let him play and let him be a positive role model trade Coleman then because what the conversation is different if they trade Coleman isn't why do we we wouldn't just dump

Coleman no God Why? No, right? It's too valuable. Now, I mean, maybe we're idiotic in thinking then, well, so you're just going to dump caught? You know what I mean? Like, you can have that debate down there to go, well, if we're just getting rid of a player, which is ridiculous, and they won't just get rid of a player because I think Goddry is valuable. But if that's where we are and we're saying, well, I can trade Codry for a, again, I'm just saying it, a fifth.

Or I can trade Coleman for a first. Sorry, Blake. And I don't want to do both. I don't want to do both. These are the paths I can go down. I'm trying to call him. The other piece of it is you've got one retention slot left. And both of these deals, I think other teams would want retention.

Not as necessary with Coleman because it's only one year and he's making 4.9. But in a perfect world of asset management, you move cadre now with some money retained and you get a good return because there's lots of interest. And you're not worried about holding the bag if he doesn't look himself when he's 30. 36 next year. And then next year, in the final year, Blake Coleman, you have two retention slots open. You can do it again on a guy with expiring contract, eat half and send him a contender for two point something million.

Like you can really kill on these two deals when you look at the big picture. Speaking of Coleman, he was obviously injured prior to the break, had gotten some limited skating wearing the yellow non-contact jersey. Since they, the team has reconvened, he's been skating and is his back in the ice. This was Coleman after practice, I believe it was yesterday, just kind of asked about,

so your name's kind of in the rumor mill? I don't know if you're aware of that. I'm just thoughts. If I said I wasn't aware of everything and not keeping up with it, because there's a lot of moving pieces at this stage of life with family and kids, and it's not just me anymore. So, yeah,

but it's been good. You know, the dialogue's been open and pretty clear and, you know, I've always looked at it the same from day one as I'm a flame until I'm told I'm not, and I'm going to bring my best every day here and continue to do what I do. And I enjoy coming to the rink here every day still. And it's a really fun group of guys to be around. So I'm just going to, you know, try to keep my head in the sand and be where I am and be in the moment. And let let the chips fall where they go. This is a good thing about Connie, he's, he's lived it. You know, he's been in my shoes and guys in the room shoes. And, you know, I think there's a lot of mutual respect and understanding the situation on both sides. I think, you know, I don't think

it's a lack of appreciation for anyone here. I think it's just the situation right again. And, you know, I think that's one of the greatest things about Connie is his ability to talk to players and and connect on that level. And, you know, he's got a, it's a tough job. You know, he's got a job to do. And we have a job to do as players and we haven't lived up to it this year. So it's why we're even discussing these things.

But, you know, I think there's a ton of respect for the way he goes about it. And, you know, whatever happens, you know, it'll be the right decision. Holy cliches, Batman. There's a few of them in there. I guess the takeaway is they've had a discussion. Dialogue.

They've been, they, they, they, are very much in each other's ear holes about what is happening. I can't imagine if other teams are in the league aren't the catalyst behind this dialogue. Yeah. Totally. You're going, dude, Connie, what about that guy? I want that guy.

It's the whole thing for me, it's just, I'm refreshed not hearing the, well, you know, we wouldn't want to go and talk to. That sounds like a guy. We wouldn't want to bring that up with Blake, you know, like he's got a, he's got a no move. Mark, he doesn't talk about these things. Exactly. Like, it just feels like some maturity has entered that, yeah, we're a non-playoff team.

You're an older player. You have a, yes, there's been dialogue. Cotty's played. He gets it. We're on the, we know what's happening. It's the Tileys, but you love what you hear about Connor and you love what you hear from Coleman. And you're like, yeah, that guy's a leader. I can tell.

Yeah. Well, that looks like he's leaving tell to me. What's that? To me, that sounds like a guy that was okay with leaving town. So, and that's why I did one. want to play it because I felt the same way it gets it. We'll see how it plays out. It's not even,

but yeah, of course it gets it. He lives it. But that sounded to me, those answers were from a guy that has had conversations, which is great and we like hearing, but is in the, hmm,

yeah, feel like we're packing here soon. I may be guilty of reading in on some, on a lot of this stuff. But it, I had the same takeaway. Doesn't it feel like he had a conversation with Conroy's? And Conroy said,

dude, there's a lot of teams calling. And you're going, well, which teams? And then he tells you the teams. That sounds okay. So yeah, for maybe he's there. Like that's what. And what I said the same. What I don't want to hear spun here is that Blake Coleman wants out of Calgary.

What I would ask people is what, what, fourth from the bottom wouldn't want to get airlifted into a contender with a chance to win a cup. Which player would say, not for me. And it's guys that are like, I've already won cups. I'm Sidney Crosby. I'm a penguin for life. everyone else wants to go to the contender, don't they?

Can I also add when he talks about family? His family is set up. Where? In Texas right now. He's not retiring here. No. Right? There are certain guys that would be like, no, I'm, you know, some idiots after their NHL career is done.

Yeah. Well, so. I'm Saskia too. Backlin wants to be a flame for life. Coleman came as a free agent when this team was supposed to be trying to chase cups and there was one little run in 22 and otherwise this is the business and I absolutely think he's going to be great as long as he's here and I think they're going to haul for him and I think he'd love to chase another

cup. And I don't think he'll be a sour puss if he doesn't get moved. But he looks like a guy that's maybe got the suitcase. How do you not feel where it is? I got some stuff if I need to get out in a hurry. If there's dialogue, how are you not thinking, right? You've heard these teams and you're like, oh shit, that's not. I did that.

He's actually fucking good. Oh, how much ill is. I can play that guy's like. I did like kind of contradicted himself. Well, if I didn't hear, right on, we're at conversation. Of course, I kind of know what's going on. So I'm going to stick my head in the scent.

He's like, I've heard enough. Now I'm going to go away. No. I know where we're at here. My name's going to be out there and I might get moved this year. And I give it to you all the time. It's like, don't read into too much what you hear in the media, this whole thing.

But it just in the past, it feels like when the, when the team has had an opportunity with free agents or just here's an opportunity to do something. And that's like, oh, but we're, you'll be awfully. Oh, it's like, God. No, you have some assets that are, they're good players. You're in a rebuild. Call it whatever the hell you want to call it.

But yeah, we're adults having conversations. We're on the same page. We'll see what happens. And if you're in the camp of, you know, the president of hockey operations came out and isn't really great at talking to media and tried to say things and they came out the wrong way, but actually behind closed doors, they know what they are, watching that helps you believe that's real.

The thing that you brought up about salary retention, and I think people, you're allowed three spots, and the flames have already used two. They're eating on Markstrom. That deals up at the end of the year, and they're also eating on Rast of Sanderson, who's a free agent in the summer. So you have three retention slots

where you can eat salary for guys you've traded. There's one that remains, and next year you'll have all three available unless you eat on Nazim this year. That would carry to the jurisdiction in this contract. It would feel like a cadre deal would be, it would hinge more on salary retention than Coleman. but it's still a big number for Coleman.

It's over four. It's not that it's not worth it. It's that your contenders are capped a bit, right? You wonder, does that get pushed to next year? I don't think that's a big deal. And there's other ways to get around it. You can shoot money the other way coming back. Take the worst player.

So just to explain that a bit, because I think it's important people understand this, you can retain salary without using a salary retention. It's, okay, we'll take hawk and paw back. Yeah. Like whatever overpaid guy there is. that you will take him and we'll pay his salary and that essentially we can put that body out on the ice and we yeah whatever i don't think coleman i think coleman's he's a value number is an easy deal but you could still take a contract back and get more right that would be if that that's the math for connie

but if you try to do both you can't you the cadre one is way more important to be able to eat on that i think you would have a difficult time getting a return without some retention on codry with With, I think you can do well. There you go. Spend some money, Mr. Edwards. Spended it anyway. I guess here or somewhere else. I'm not adding any expenditures.

It's already on the books. So some flames talk. God, there's good stuff, right? Now, get ready. We're going to do that again tomorrow. So tomorrow we're back and we can really dig into it. Then we'll really dig into it. We got a bit distracted.

Sorry, folks. We got a little distracted by the Olympics and all that went on yesterday. But I'm glad we got. One are these guys going to talk about? Like, truly, guys are like, talk flames and say, I regret asking for flames talk. What are they going to talk about the gold medal game? We did an hour on that.

Biggest game for four frigging years. That's all right, Phil. Flames. It's tracks. It is a Pinda report for our good friends at Village Honda. The big buy-in's going on, Dino. You're least expiring. You've got an extra vehicle hanging around.

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There are also prospects that played over the break. William Stromgren, very nice. Three point night, including an OT went, okay, good. Nice development young man. That's for hate to Will Stromgrim. You ran him out of town. They were pumping his tires like he was the next coming of Christ. And then you had a game and you were like, this guy's terrible.

Why you feel that way? I think it was when someone tried to compare Perrex Ice to William Strom. Oh, sorry. We'll keep moving, shall we? Long show, God damn it. Yeah. More from Flames Nation.

We got some prospect. It's on YouTube. It's on the tubes. Arseni Sergiv. We've got a mid-season prospect report card on him. Also, Karel Zerubin. That's a couple Euro net miners. I believe both Russian.

Okay. Let's keep going on flame stuff. Pike. this is intriguing. Look at this, boys. A lot of balloon? Have you been down there to see how big this thing is?

Because that photo does not do it justice. It does not do it justice. It's going to be a big building, Rhett. You don't say. Yep. Like how big? Big? I think it's going to seed over 18,000 people.

Wow. I don't like to sound. So that's going to be too busy getting it out of there. Too big? Too big. Look about extra security tunnels for Rhett where you can just come in and not have to talk to people in and over the years. I think it's going to be in that building?

Fall 27? You'll be dead by then? Busy. Jackie, dead then fall 27? No, you'll be good. I'm downloading myself. I'm downloading yourself. Whatever rat's doing.

Yeah, you're at. That's exciting. Wouldn't that be great if you could just have a clone and just send it out to do all the stuff. You're like interact and be kind and do good things and all that. You just kind of get to sit at home. And then you come back and you just take all of that hard drive. And you're better for it. You're smarter.

All the experiences that that thing had. and went and did on your behalf. It'd be so great. You can do it right now. I'm going to go out and do some charity work for four hours. You're actually just home crushing it now. You can text the person that your robot, man. You don't have to.

It was good seeing you today. Just make it. So good seeing you today. You know what? Lunch next week. Let's do that again. Yeah, sure. Look at that.

I got a lunch booked. That was amazing. Then the robot, which is very much like me. It starts to get piss. It's like, I just had lunch with that ass. Damn it. And you go again? This fat bastard's got to go to another lunch.

Talk back to me. You're a robot. Yeah, but have you seen robots? We're super smart now. Smart than you, idiot. Oh, no. My robot's smarter than me. And in much better shape and stronger.

Well, they had a kung fu robot fight and it was not good. Hey, fat boy, you're going to that lunch. Oh, no. This is totally backfires. This has been your robot reports. Ryan back to you. Put a note in that. Hold off on robot plan.

Let's check in with the Flames Olympian, shall we? Because Marty Possible was there. Barely healthy before the Olympics started. Dealing with those concussion, post-concussion syndromes that kept them out of the entirety of the first half of the season. I had a pretty good tournament. Piker noted didn't even take a minor penalty and was second line center for the Slovaks that stemmed the tournament.

Oh, I'm very afraid. The robots. Oh, yeah. Robots are very afraid. I'm afraid of robots and clowns. Keep going, Ryan. It's not sure you watch me a video while I'm doing it. Robots.

Robots. Okay, well, there you are. Marty Possible. Effective Olympic tournament. I'll read it. But I thought he had a really effective tournament. Most importantly, played fast and physical, but took zero penalties. That according to Ryan Pike.

Pike bomb. Thank you, Dean. Pike. Mike bomb. Ryan N. Pike. Because I'm guessing Ryan Pike, somewhere in the planet, already had at Ryan.

Ryan Pikes. That's what I found that Ryan Pender song. I had the Twitter handle. Is that why he has the wrench beside his name? That's right. Yeah. What do we think his middle name is? Nick.

Ned. Nerd. No, we love nice. We love it. Stop it. Boom. Nick Pike. Oh.

It was my robot. I don't like these fighting robots. You get these with the Boston engineering dogs of guns in their mouths. I want no part of this. Look at it. Wind it back. Wind it back. No good.

No too much. It happens way too often where I mentioned something And then you immediately show me a video on your phone Like I thought I'm going to have a robot and send it out And then you had How did you think of doing this? I was just looking at a scary robot vid this morning To do this stuff

I know Beecher's back Coleman's back Topline Yegor's back Backland 1C is back Because Netsov Weiger ball white cloud Hanley prick

No one's talking about Zach White Cloud that's because he's a great dude and you want to keep him around. And that's why teams are calling on them. But yes, do you think they would like the idea of keeping them? Someone's going to offer them a lot. I say just like, well, I think you could. So my list of two trades, cadre or Coleman, Weaker, or white cloud.

Take one from each box, please. Pick a forward and pick a D. Yep. I'm down with that. Yep. I have 2.75 for another two years. So cheap. A haul for him.

Sheep like what, though? Chip, Borsh. Oh. Borsh. Not Borsh. Borsh is not cheap. It's not cheap anymore. That is a saying.

Yeah. But he probably needs, we probably do need to refresh that. Because ships are still cheap, to your point, right? Ships are not cheap. You go to the goddamn grocery store. You got to go on Tuesday of the first month. Jack's one of the gas.

They spend nine bucks a $9. You can't do that. That's ridiculous. If you ever see them on sale, you just got to stock up. Just feel your basement with four chips. You know what's not cheap either is those Croucho Classic tickets.

They can't run you 100 bucks. I can't stock up on chips because I'll just eat them until they're gone. I could crush two or three bags. A chip Nami. Yeah. That's what that. Chip Nog. Chips.

Chips. Chipsillow there. Thanks, bud. Let's take a look at the schedule. You got them. Fellows are on the road a ton here. I know you're disappointed right because you want to go down to the dome. I love going on the road.

Yeah. Big road trip. Brody. I feel like we spent way too much time to get. It was way too much. And it can seem there. Yeah. We need to take a week off here.

At San Jose, at L.A. at Anaheim. That is this week, friends. That's a nice weekend. Head out to the West Coast there. It's out in California. You don't want to go to the East Coast right now. It's a shit storm.

Like, literally. Yeah? Well, it's not literally. No, it's literally a snowstorm. No, that's, there's shit falling out of the sky. Literally. No. Freakal matter.

Difference is right. Pooh. Can we go to watch. wine country. Yeah, they'd start in California. Drink some wine. You've got enough to get days in between

the Kings game and the Ducks game. You'd think so. How many days are there in that month? Nope, there's zero days between the dogs. Stupid calendar, messing us up. God damn, AI calendar with a fuck. When did this start?

There's how many, prove it. That huge break between the Kings and the ducks. Prove it. I love this show so much. I hate it. It's so dumb.

It's the best. McKenna had a weekend, fellas, and let's get back on track here, all right? Mission McKenna. I never wavered. I will own one. I have wavered a little.

I like this outfit they've got going. They're wearing the outdoor kits. And that is assist number seven on game one of Gavin McKenna's weekend. Are you kidding me? Seven apples. fans standing up let's do that at the dome oh boy let's just go to Penn State that sounds well better actually good idea new rank no seats everyone stands think about it murray imagine how about you could save chairs those chairs aren't cheap

they're not like chips or bors i'm gonna get these bastards to stand when they do this all right here he goes again what happens so this is the next night after his eight point night uh okay well there's some more points hey goalie gonna need that so this game in ends up going to overtime. It's 4-4 Ohio State, Penn State. Or is this the, this is the, is this the 8-point night, Jack? This is still the same video. Yeah, okay. So there's seven assists in there. We can watch them all. It's quite something. You let me know when you had your quote out. We're not. McKenna's. Ohio running. Lee. Operation. We don't

know much. I get distracted with the calendar there. Now we're back to us. Tip the goal. Overtime the next night. Four for the score. Guy with eight points already has one in the second game of the weekend. Let's pick it up there. McKenna. A few spins. Over for Jackson Smith, the defenseman. Back to McKenna. A little finesse. A couple draft. Shoot.

Scars! Brilliant! We're doing math at home, which we don't recommend on the show. That's 10 points on the weekend. Or they should do it at home because we can't out here. Well, someone had done the math for me. I'm just reading the experts. You're a brilliant coach. Math

of magicians. You put McKinno. Three on three. So the Jackson Smith's my favorite. The Calgary guy, Glenn Lake product. I'm going to take this, give it back to him. Nice assist. There you go. It's all McKenna.

Can you start it again? Actually, Jackson Smith's folks. Okay, stop. Stop. This defender. I don't know what, like, he does not deserve this. I don't know what he's done. Did he throw someone down a flight of stairs?

Like, just watch red shirt guy on McKenna. It's like, uh, once. Okay, where are you going? Okay, I've still got you. Okay, I'm going to come back here. Oh, you again. All right. Well, certainly you're not going to, oh, you are going to do it again.

Oh, fuck. Kids. Play the body. Which is very difficult to do against Mr. McKenna. But don't back off there. Give him space. Bad idea. Stay tight.

This guy's creating some ugly whiteboard sessions, this 10 points on the weekend. We're back in love, Dean. You know what? The heart wants or the heart wants, Mission McKenna. I think this is. going to work opposite for his flames, thanks. This is sewering us.

Vancouver? I want him to go pointless the rest of the way. He's a dud. He's a bad apple. Well, he was, you know on him. He was trouble. His charge is pressed not long ago. And then we just come scoop them out. Yeah. You know what? We'll take a kid, give your chance. Get Huska, teach out of play D.

Nationgear.com.com. Or maybe a ripoff website for the mission. Oh, nation gear. Yeah, sure. The one. Okay. Good. Awesome.

Don't ask for it. Red. Uh, yeah. Brick maybe. Let's go check out the, uh, NCAA scoring leaders because 10 points on a weekend.

That's going to move a guy up. God, I wish I had 10 points one year. Still anything we'd, Matt, I went back to Flint's script. Now, is that another Hughes boy?

Like, are they still popping out kids here? What's going on? That's, I don't know. Wouldn't be surprising. Another goddamn Hughes. No,

it's not. He's not related. And Cruz Lucius. Is he a penguin prospect, Jack? Or is that someone else on this list? Cruz. There's Chas. Chas Lucius, which makes this feel like it's got it.

Chas and Cruz have to be broke. Well, this guy's older too. He's a senior. Okay. Speaking of Hughes, I was thinking about that also. As a parent, you sit there, it's like, oh, my son nearly scored the gold medal winning goal in overtime.

And then my other son did actually score. So like, what about the other kid? Yeah, he didn't make the team. He makes 80 years with the devils. He couldn't score. Was he heartbroken? Then his brother did score. Oh, so we got the gold.

Fourth round, 124th Carolina did Cruz, Lucius. Thank you. Good work. ASU. Okay. That boy Wittenback. Keep it going, buddy. Keep it going.

Okay, let's move. What else we got here, Jackal? Sizeable lead by this. Wittenberg. Impressive. God. He is a penguin now, though. I think he was in the Gensel trade.

Oh, there is. Yeah, I thought there was a penguin time. Oh, the F does AI? screw that up. The same idea that's going to take over your life. Makes a lot of mistakes. 10 point weekends. Top 10 in the sports center top 10

side of the border. McKenna is a problem. That's a big weekend. I love to see it. Pain, fellas. We talked about it off the top of the show. If you're Canadian, that's pain. If you're the American, that's euphoria, Jack.

And this photo also the same two descriptors. Pain if you're Canadian and euphoria if you're American. I saw someone put together the Pinder trifecta. There was those two and then the Vlady this close to sliding in safe at home. Oh, yes.

Some angst for. Also, me, it's like the brown sweater friend. The 90 plus percent of Canadians that are. That's fair. That's tough pain for the last few months here for Canada. Well, it has been tough pain because all Canadians were Oilers fans as well in the America.

I didn't feel much. Paying on that one, that's maybe I was numbed at the time. Here's Mac Daddy if you need him, by the way. Looks like he's eaten since he got home, but he's probably going to miss out again. And you know what's funny is this guy's trying to do something to go viral, and he couldn't reshoot it when he had the angle wrong, so they just mirrored it. So he gave us shooting from the right side of the net. We want to give you credit for the meme, but we're going to make funny.

It's good work, though. I mean, knows how to do a reverse clip. Made the pin or a mirror clip. Oh, geez. That's a high bar. Cichuk brothers, you want to hate them. You want to say these grease balls, gher. And then, you know, when they're not chirping about being bridesmates, there they are with Johnny's daughter, incredibly moving scenes.

And to the point some others had made, you brought Johnny's stuff to Four Nations. You didn't win. You could have said, look, we don't need to keep the family hanging around. No, this is one of our boys. We're doing the Olympic thing, too. I'm about getting these guys on the ice through Olympic security. Great stuff. Heart wrench and stuff.

Tear jerking stuff. Yep. Real good. Calgary Hitman, punch your ticket to the playoffs, boys. That's good news. That's real good. Rookie coach. Good coach. See what they did the inn and clinched.

Pooh. Some next level stuff here. I knew it. So many messages. It's like that Hartford Whale. She's an H and a W. And they kept the chat at the end, separate.

Is that the right shoulder? They love J-A-Ots, right? And CL, of course, is the division. That's C-L smooth. That's their goal song, yeah. All really plays and nice out together. Congrats to the hitman. Let's take a look at the standings here.

So top team in each division retro will be sued one, two. And I believe for this year, they will then just go three through eight. Is that your understanding of the playoff bracket as well? Yeah. Good. So loud wrong. Like, no idea. I literally just asked.

I read it. on the WHL website this morning because I know if I'm correct, last year it was the hell of the Blades the NHL one where it's basically two versus three years of the shammy. I miss Cammy. It's got Cammy in this sort of. Blades get in there. Let's get a hip and Blades one. And then

Wreck can go down and pump up the boys at the dome. Pump up to champ. Pump it up. Pump it up. For all your feet are pumping. Pumping. Remind us that one went. It was hitting in against the blades. And they said, look, we got a really notable alumni. I was so excited.

an alumnus you get in there you're pumped up i'm a room guy like you know and do shit once i get on the ice but they don't know that speech is great and you play or laughing they still make a foot of me let's get that blade's hitman first round hey shall we uh doesn't look likely to me well they just got to pass the weakings then you're good well they're five points back with one short a game and there's about 12 left games played her son of again it's true and the hitman going one that doesn't and all these teams want to play all their games it seems oh what's that crap all right come on mowlin and swift let's go how about the raiders say well they got to not uh not often the old pa raiders are the toast is mike madano there last time the oil

it's been a while king's had to ditch that deadbeat again let's trade his ass out of there they're finally going what happened there is wrong won't come on the show why rat i was actually going to text Jerome and say, listen, let's come on and just talk about the Olympics. Don't we won't bug you about it. I didn't. But it did cross my mind. It's one of those lazy, motivated but bored things that he keeps on. See, that's where that AI robot would be awesome.

Go talk to Jerome. Get him on the show. Come on. Hello, I am Rents AI assistant. Jerome, would you like to come on the show? They don't sound like that anymore. It's like you're talking to a person. It can sound like you, but I can sober you.

What would that sound like, Ryan? The Red Robot. Dirk, come on the show, turd. I'm kidding. I love you, buddy. Let's go to Wisconsin. Here's the thing with the Winter Olympics. Every four years, Americans rediscover curling.

Because no one gives an ass, upset in Olympic years. This is the craziest sports. It's like shovel boards. It's like darts, it's ice. It's weird. It's catching on in Wisconsin here. What?

Curling. Catching on in Wisconsin. Because what do they do in Wiscoe? Ice fish. Drink beer. Bose. Anything with booze they'll do. And so, of course, they love curran.

Wow, that's a draw away. Nice. Wow. Nice. What a beautiful day in Wisconsin. I like that there's no fences. Everybody's backyard is just wide open.

The bars and beers. A little bit of a block. That's a guard there. They call it a block. They're learning the house. That's fine. Top of the house. That's okay.

They kind of move all over. So they basically just have two force of beer in like cooking pans. Beautiful stuff. I believe this is the hammer here this big shock on oh no there's another couple that's probably enough though skip I go see how it's gonna end now the beast beast what kind of bears that beast says that's something on me right couple more hang in there that's the thing about curling the first few rocks

you gotta get to skip stones or kind all right setting things up skip stones here we go this miller is coming in with he counting two oh wow that all right to count three that looks like like shot stone there yeah try to get in there shot rock okay throw the out this the hammered dick router here they are from appleton wisconsin the bush battle stone in this first end wow and make the final it looks like we'll need a measurement i don't yeah can't see because we don't have the overhead all right last item of the pin report friends on this monday february 23rd what beer is that That beast?

Beast? That's not how you spelled beast, Jack. Best. Best. We've talked about it for a while. We need a good punishment for last place in fantasy football. The problem is they either seem too mild or too severe and nothing feels quite right. Well, we don't like each other enough to have that kind of discrepancy.

But we don't hate each other enough to really like maim each other. Do you believe this one? Yes, but I'm an idiot. So let's watch and figure it out. Last place in fantasy, he gets the blue. recycling bin over the head and I believe probably the winner or at least the commissioner

gets to punish him for his last place finish in fantasy football this is it going to get scared mouth fuck it's gonna fucking up so he puts the blue bin in his head and then dude rifles a driver right into the heribage there

not a real goal here's the thing that wouldn't it be bad if this It was this not AI, but this happened to you. And everyone was like, no, that was AI. They didn't happen. You're like, I have the welts. What do you mean?

It's AI. No one believes you. I happened. I was, look at this. Yeah, that wounds. AI. There it is. I'm not saying they didn't do it,

but that's not a real ball for ball. Is there a welter or anything? Looks like an indentation, but yeah. That's insane. And these donkeys are from somewhere other country. Yeah, that we have an exit. That might be a fantasy soccer. I don't know.

Takes a golf. golf ball. Everybody's like, I saw this little jackass 20 years ago. No big deal. It's an AI fake. That's makeup. That's not a real scar.

I'll tell you. It's going to get harder for guys to go viral with dumb shit. Because everyone's just going to say it's AI. Yeah. That's your pinned report on this February 23rd. A reminder, Village Honda. The prelude is back, baby.

Reimagined and ready to kick some ass. VillageHonda.com for more in stock and in inventory, the new prelude. Love to see it. There you go. Whale of a show today. I never thought we were even going to come close to this type of event for today's show. My goodness.

There are some people who are saying that we've done a disservice by not having Jack make a comment. I never, I guess I'm on what? He said beat, beast. Yeah, he did. His team was victorious yesterday. Here I am talking about these American fans who are finally. tasting victory, best on best, Olympic gold. Jack's been dead for so long.

I've been dead since they won this thing. Yeah. So what's the last 24 hours been like for you, Jack? It's been awesome. I've had a lot of people reaching out and pissed off at me for wearing the American gear and cheering for the Americans. So that hasn't been that great. Well, hang on.

But I got, I had a good talk with my dad. and they was like people there are people there were like proud of the boys like people that don't even watch hockey care about it and it's cool it's cool for them so have you always reped the stars and stripes or do you

sometimes cheer for Canada in some sports like is it what's the where is this allegiance born because you're duly right the four nations last year was all in on the US you did cheer a Chechia v Canada goal as I remember call last week. Yes, he did.

Hey, every good careful. Carney's going to have the elbows up on you. Careful now. Running your ass right out of the country. Yeah, there was a lot of people not happy with me.

I was getting in text conversations with people that. Yes. Who the hell do you text? What? My buddies. And they're like, people that hate McDavid are now

defending McDavid. It's pretty interesting. Quite a pickle people have gotten ourselves into here. The world am I living in? You and your shoveler want to play pickleball tomorrow at six? No. Is it Reggie? No. Good

God, Almighty. Pickleball. Are you a pickleballer? I love pickleball. He was playing it off the other way, wasn't he? It's kind of fun. That just means we're old, funny. Yes. The only reason it's fun.

Someone you knows texting you, do you want to play pickleball? Where are you in your stages of life and enjoyment? Do you want to come, or you're 86? Pick me up off the ground because I've fallen and I can't get up. Yeah. That's about where we're at. I'll tell you, I saw that the Inde Dome Boys are going to do one, right? Really?

Good, the Domewit. The End of Noe podcast. Yes. They have been on record. I can't cheer for McDavid. I can't hear from it. I can't do it. I would think this only elevates their disdain for 97.

The next episode. Thanks for not winning for us, you asshole. They'll hate him even more. now. And I think open up the floodgates, fellas. Finally let loose and don't know you're right. Finally it's just no more. Oh, how you're feeling. No, no more pulling punches, fellas. Time to be authentic. Yep. Don't let the bosses tell you to stop carrying the weight. For it. Denying your true self. I can't cheer. Sing. Go to the mountaint tops and yell it. And you still lost. So keep an eye. Yeah, keep an eye open for the end of that jack.

drops. Let me see some good clips from that one. Jack, we're happy for you because you need some good things to happen. I got a tough run there. He's on. Holy. Oh, let's do the bets.

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Flames play on Thursday. Tomorrow, all your Olympians should be practicing with their teams, I imagine. Really not a hockey. I think I read this morning. I forget who it was that I read. Today is travel day. Yeah.

And then you get a league mandated day after travel. Okay. So whoever, so they'll fly today. Yeah. Tomorrow off day. So some guys have come back to a game day. Yeah,

or miss it. Oh, yeah. I expect lots of guys get healthy. It is going to be curious to try to, if you like wagering NHL, there's going to be some late scratches and we don't know if this guy's playing.

It's going to be really curious first few days coming back from the break. So what we did today is we, went into the futures file. And on bet 365, you can shh to the right to futures, then all the way over to the season totals for points. You can bet the over under for every team in the NHL. Flames are on pace for 76 on the button.

And I expect they will be deleting, not adding talent. Also, their schedule gets nasty. Also, the next 11 games, eight of them on the road. Also, three of those are Colorado's, also two Dallas's. They've got a very tough schedule. I'm going to take the under on 76 and a half points at minus 105. And the Sabres are on pace for 100 points.

You over under set at 98.5 and they were no good in the fall. Keep it rolling Sabres. We need Buffalo in. That is plus 100 slash even money to get over 98 and a half points. Did I see that spring training games are old? Exactly. Yep. J's one in one.

And Okamoto hit a home line moments ago. Just hit a home run. Holy. The Japanese guy, no one wants to say it was a good signing. Home run, baby. Let's go. One's saying to you, that's your spin. The spin cycle is always on. Yeah.

They have been very good in free agency. They have missed on superstars. All this can be true. That's 365. Now, what about the sabers? Are they go, because I think that you don't want to stop when you're on a heater, right? Are they going to puck her when it gets close? Like, we've never been.

We're two points back. We're one point in. It's a week left in the season. Can I give an analogy real test for those guys? if you'd won like 10 blackjack hands in a row and you're at a casino, do you just leave the table? I'm just smart. But you know, you're in a heater.

This two-week break came at the worst time for the Sabres. They were unreal. Best team in the league coming into the break over the last two months. I'm not sure that's great because they have to keep playing cards. They have to play until like to the end of the shoe. So if they were up anyway, now's the time to leave. I would think that it's a bad thing for the sailors. I hope they want to come.

mode strong and they play the first game back from the Olympic break, one of the early windows. I think they get in. I do think they get in. I don't know how many. Get in. They can be home ice, man. Like they are right there for second in the Atlantic. We're going, Jack.

Jack, load up the jet. Yeah. How is the jet? Put some miles on this last week going to Italy and back. What a, what a country. What a mess. What a mess we've made. Fish and ships could have been better.

So there it is. All right. There's the east. Oh, there it is. Okay. We'll talk, we'll talk, you know, more standings and teams and that stuff tomorrow, but that's where we sit. So look at the games played. Buffalo's got one in on Detroit. Two back of second in the division.

Oh, God, our Montreal Buffalo bets way too close. Yeah, you thought you were home for you on that, didn't you? It was looking really good. So Buffalo with 70 sitting there, as you say, two points back there. Of Montreal and Detroit. And where is the outside looking in? Yeah, what's the bottom? Like what?

Well, see, it depends what division you're in. Columbus can get in with a lower number than the wild card in the metro. But if you're a team in the Atlantic like Ottawa, Toronto, Florida, it's going to be tough.

Yeah. But for Buffalo specifically, if they have to rely on a wild card in the end. They were at 70 and 65s out. So there's a bit of a cushion between the second wildcard and missing. There are teams I expect to play better.

Washington, Ottawa, primarily. Florida, who knows what kind of injuries are announced. There's a thought that there'll be some wounded Panthers returning home that did play in their last games. There you go. There you are. Stupid Rangers, but on the clinic here, another stupid letter to the season ticket.

I was trying to get McKenna. Your hands off him. Let's get to the Super Chat as we wrap things here on a Monday. Oh, more Super Chat? So many. Yeah. Well, we had the, uh, the more. Yeah.

Great stuff. Great stuff for the, uh, for the kids. Uh, switching lanes. back to the Flames future. I've been telling my friends and family about going all in on McCar a few months ago, thoughts? How? I mean, yeah, go.

And Colorado can say no to whatever you offer and they probably in their right mind to do that. Yeah, I don't think the Colorado's going to trade him. Probably what the DJ, Kara, is talking about as a free agent because he'll be, he's scheduled to be at UFA. At some point, if he's renewed by then or not. Yeah, if he's a free agent, offer him the moon.

Max salary, go. Yes. I agree. All in. If he gets, if he gets to July 1, Connie, sticks to your game plan. You can't get him. Stick to your game plan. How old will that get be? It's two years ago. It'll be 40. No, it's tough. That's what we need. Some more veteran as leadership. It's 27 right now, retro. I'd sign him up. It's only seven years now, isn't it? Yeah. Seven max.

September 15, that changed. All right. All right, DJ. DJ, we're with you and getting him, but I just don't know how. RB back in 6-9-9-9. Look at what the Kachuk brothers

slash wingman podcast posted. They've added an image to the definition of McBride's maid. McBride-made. I'll tell you what, the Kachuk guys, they are not, they're not like me in that,

it's maybe a little jinxie. I don't want to say it. They do not care. Oh, boy. Oh, my goodness. the Germany one is kind of on the nose, isn't this? They better keep winning these tournaments because they've won one of their last six, right? It doesn't imagine.

You get the Reagan Rice today, but I don't like this social media stuff. Have some class. Is that AI? Is that real? Oh, those are real nice. Yeah, they had the stage this whole thing. Very quickly. You don't like this rat too much?

It's too easy. I thought it was going to be something worse, but it's, does it come across as arrogant? It's a nice. Does it come across his class? But I love them. No, and so... Online trolling from this is amazing.

Right. And so if I totally, we said it before the tournament. Sidney Crosby would never be supposed to anything like this. And the Cichucks are. And that's kind of why you've got the heel and the good guy. Well, you go back to, because they were chirping the Oilers with the pink pony club and do like, they're trolls. They have had a great time giving it to the Oilers. Mm-hmm.

So it's, yeah, this is not new for the Cachuck fellas. Was it actually Cachuck that did the... I don't know if they have a social idea. They have a Jack. What are they? I think Brady's out there doing some of the energy. Don't think they spent the flight back. Doing artwork on a laptop or a tablet.

Or they're just going to AI do for eight seconds. Make us something funny. Then why can't we? Jack, you can want it. AI coordinator. New job title. Next. AI coordinator.

R. B back in, 279. More, Codry's less Uighers, we biggle, Mission McKenna. RBA really on a,

if you're new to the show, every day he checks. in and tries to run McKenzie Weger out. I feel like it's just part of it. So his take here is more Cadres. So if we want to piggyback that with the less week. I've already explained Conroy's

conundrum. Check one for the rest of you have two forwards and two D you get to get rid of one of each. Simple. It's simple math. And R&B if I was going to play devil's advocate, which boy, I wouldn't be comfy, but I could try. Who's near their max value and who's near their lowest value out of these two?

because Codry's coming off of career on goals and Uyghur's having the worst season. I still think that's short-sighted for- Oh, for sure, but my point is, no one will be surprised weir has a better year next year. There's no, I'm very worried about how Codry's going to age till his contract's up at 38. I just find it's, well, you can trade weaker for you know what? We can talk about it tomorrow on flames. Have a flames conversation. We should just keep going, but we've got so much to do tomorrow too. Yeah.

Yeah, we're right up against it here. to time wise the YouTube out of Johnny YouTube says we got to wrap up the show so can we get Mike and Jordan from in the dome on the show love those guys we'll save that for a big event like the Oilers elimination this spring they have their own show where they do a whole bunch of watching I would be fine getting them on the show like those guys very curious to see if they're disappointed or are they relishing in the fact that they might have been turned into pretzels last Canada it's that's a tough they're 100% shit on them. Let's not. Oh, they are. No, but what did they do in the tournament?

Did they actually convince themselves to cheer for only to lose? Their last episode they did, they were, they talked about how they were actually cheering for him. They're on his side. They're going to be so sour. They will be so sour with him now. Now that only adds to it. It really does. Look what we did for you and you did what to us? You've got one opportunity. This is your one chance. Don't blow it. I say it. It's Lucy with the football. Yes. We finally trusted you to hold the foot. you've pulled it, you son of a bitch. Go watch that one.

Just when you thought. The In the Dome plus McDavid Alliance. Alliance. This is like pro wrestling. Yes. Well, Jack, how was the show today? You know what? I thought it was a very good show for a Monday.

He hit everything, I think you hit every single angle from that final game in the Olympics. We close some angles I don't even thought about it. Yeah. Flames talk, right? Well done. Robots. Robots. Odd AI. Awesome.

Judo robots. Look. Robots. Little goods, right. Got more coming off on the show tomorrow. Can't wait. See you, buddies.