Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Wednesday Morning With Noodles | FN Barn Burner - October 25th, 2023

Episode Date: October 25, 2023

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Hey, how we doing? Welcome to another edition of Barn Burner. Hot, are we hot? A little hot, a little hot, well, hot. Headphones, hot, levels, hot, levels, hot, hot, levels, check, level, level, level, level, check, check, check, one, two. Rhett, one, two, one, two, and three, three, and four. How now, brown cow. How now, brown cow. Unique New York, unique New York. A quick brown fox. The quick brown fox. Hey, welcome to the show.

We got a good one for you today. Jamie McClennan, going to join us. Mr. The man they call noodles. We'll join us. Mr. Noodles. Mr. Noodles. Yeah.

Delicious. Oh, my kid had two of them yesterday. My kid frigging. Mr. Noodles on the show today. What a select. Yeah, Mr. Noodles.

Saving your money. Things are going really well at the boomer household. They ate two. That age. That bastard could use body weight every day. If this thing goes well, maybe we'll upgrade to Itchabon. Oh.

You know, maybe get the, the high end. Nancy boy. Yeah, not yet. Not yet. We'll see how it goes. Welcome to the program.

Over your right shoulder is a cooler full of origin. Origin brewing. Let's go to the full screen. We announced it a couple weeks ago. We've partnered up with the Sterling and Spencer and the Hilton family out in Strathmore. They have a massive farm. They grow the barley and then they malt the barley and then they brew. the beers with the barley.

And then I drink the beers. And then you drink the beers. Now, we were at Grey Eagle last night, but I dare say that if we were in here, that fridge would be a little sparse. We would have been into the origins last night.

Yeah. Well, I mean, sometimes that's what you need is a little, hey, let's hash it out. Let's have a few origins. And I hope the fellas at the dome last night stayed around and had a couple origins and talked about how they're going to get

their poop in a group. I feel like maybe they were just ready to get to hell out. depending. Now, which one do you have there? That's, uh, this is the IPA, the pioneer. Pioneer IPA. If you like IPAs, I mean, phenomenal. Rett says he's coming out on the IPAs now, yeah.

More than that, he seeks him out. Yeah. Yeah. Crush. Sadly. No amount of origins last night was going to change the, the end result. I mean, maybe just Durkin had about 15. That was your only chance. Yeah, he was,

he was stone cold, sober from the looks of things last night. Flames drop there third and row. it's Columbus, it's Detroit, and now it's the New York Rangers. Oh, and that's why that was such a tough spot to face the Rangers, because you just came back and you didn't finish that road trip well, and they're good. I talked about a post game last night, Rhett.

Vesna candidate, Nett, Norris candidate on the blue line, one of the heaviest hitters in Hawker, great captain and Truba, and up front, Panarin, Art Ross-type guy, Zabinajad, and Kreider, guys, that can score 50. Yeah, let's call it. depth up for three 30 30 to 40 goal guys and it's just like who is the flames most talented player

and where would they slot in could they crack that group no now that said didn't mind the start they came out they were in good shape they'd given up four shots by the 15 minute mark they were up one nothing everything was going to have to go perfect they had clearly uh listened to the show yesterday yes taken it to heart 75 seconds in oh captain my captain that's right like the captain's game that line, I mean, I don't want to be like the pump back on the tires all the time, but when you put Manjapan and Coleman Backlin together, there's just, you never worry about that trio. They're just so consistent, they're steady, they play tough minutes, you know what they're going to do. It's the rest around them.

You can't fit everything above them on the depth chart you're worried about. Top two lines, what are you? You're right. I'm giving them, I actually thought that the effort was decent last night. Love the start, right? like Cadre has a couple chances. Really nice little dangle there in the first. Ooh,

they got chances, you know, even there's a power play about halfway through the second where they zipped it around. I was like, wow, they're moving it.

But they didn't score. It was a trocheque took back-to-back penalties. Two slashings in a row. He was furious, steaming in the box. He was very upset. Yeah, he was pretty pissy. But that's the thing.

You like the effort. It was obvious they, recognized the the importance of the game. Yeah. And came out and played well. And if, if you just, if, if, if, if, if things go a little bit differently and you find a way to win that thing, then you feel really good going against, going against St. Louis tomorrow.

And you feel good about it. We responded. It was a holy crap road trip. First game back played well, beat a very good hockey team. And you played well against them. but you didn't win. And it's another one of those games where when it becomes 1-1,

then 2-1, and then 3-1, you feel like you may as well just turn the lights out. Well, and again, repeat mode from last year, rest of the team plays really good. And then Mark's from maybe, you don't want to blame them, but won a game, right, isn't it?

Yeah, and it's the same kind of stuff where it's going through them. Like even that power play goal, that's a great deflection. Oh, man. A high end deflection. But I still want that save. Shasturkin made that backs, whatever, backdoor save. Like that's a harder.

Yeah, that's a tougher save than the deflections today. No, it's just Rican made, what, three to four post-to-post type saves? And you're like, who, he is on. Because he robbed Austerly on that play where he came down from the point. Zeduro found him. I mean, it was, you saw last night. it was on display why this guy gets Vesnevotes. You just don't think that Kreider's going to be able to tip it in from there.

He might get a piece of it, but is he going to? That's a really beautiful redirection. Right. It is. But again, Pinder, that's, you can't, I'm not taking away from the play. I'm just saying, you want to win the game. Yeah. No, the other goal is better.

I'm not fighting on that, rat. I just look at it and it was like, if you were going to beat the Rangers, you were going to have to be almost perfect. And they weren't. They were good. But when you're, when you have so much less talent than the Rangers do, you can't have one squeak through with Markstrom. You have to elevate the puck on some of those backdoor plays where Shasturkin look like a god.

Whoever's playing Shasturkin doesn't have the best goalie on the ice that night. That's just the way it is. Let's bring in one of our, one of our NHL, our hockey insiders. On the insider hotline, a presentation of TELUS, enter to win one of six monthly prizes, including tickets to Calgary hockey games and awesome tech like AirPods, Apple Watches, and more. No purchase necessary. All you have to do is fill out a quick survey to enter. get that chance to win.

Do it online. Tellus.com slash flames contest to the hotline we go for Tellus and welcome Jamie McLennan, who we had some, we had some spies out who apparently was at the airport yesterday. We saw Jamie McClendon. Saw Jamie McClendon noodles was at the airport yesterday. Must have been flying somewhere. I was.

Blowing your cover. What do you want me to wear a nose and a mustache? That's right. I don't know. It depends what you're doing, Jamie. Maybe you should. If it's small square business, that's fine. But if you're up to some nonsense, some Tom Fuller,

you better get a better disguise. Is there some of the canary going on? Flying to Ottawa to call the game last night. And then got back to my hotel room to watch some Alberta nonsense last night. So, you know, basically both teams had them on split screen and just, you know what it was? It's an analyst dream to, you know, if you're a hockey analyst, you could just dare. it's too easy to just, you know, pick apart some of the loose play early on in the season. But, yeah, I thought the leaves, sorry, I thought the flames deserved a little bit more,

a better result. You know, you had some chances on Chesterkin. Yeah, I didn't like that. I heard you guys talking. I didn't like the marks from third goal. That's a backbreaker too, right? Like you, you know, the game's close and then a little squeaker goes through. And you don't have the margin of error right now.

No. Like, you're not outscoring problems. where, you know, the goalie can allow three and just relax and play. And if you allow a bad goal, who cares because you know that the team will bail you out? They just, the flames aren't wired that way. You know, it's got to win two, one, three one. And that's pretty much what we're seeing. And, you know, lose three one.

And, you know, it looks good. You get a lot of chances. But, you know, I would argue this. And I'll ask you guys this. How many second and third opportunities were there? How many ugly mucking, you know, like, you know, it's just, had made some good side-to-side saves and a couple, you know, because he's, he is one of the best on the planet. But, you know, how, how difficult was it to find pucks for him? How difficult was it,

you know, was there a guy, his ass in the guy's face all night and bumping it accidentally on purpose? Like, that's how you have to get to top goaltenders to keep them in the net and keep them like off kilter a little bit. I didn't see that from the flames last night. Yeah, I thought they created some good lateral chances, but in terms of traffic, you're right. I mean, he saw everything or he had to, you know, move laterally for everything. If you're starting a team right now, is he number one or which goalie would you take ahead of him? Because I don't know that I could name someone better. Health-wise, it's still Vasilevsky for me.

He's my guy. But, you know, Sturkin's there. Sorkin, too, the kid on the island. Very Russians. It's a three-pack of Russians before he even blink, right? And just so you haven't forgot, Georgiev, who I think identifies as Russian. I think there's a different countries from Georgia or whatever, but there's a fourth through, I think, Colorado is 6 and O,

and he's played very well. But if you take a look at, you know, the Russian goaltender, Schisturkin's right there. Now, a couple years ago, he was the best goalie on the planet, and Vasselowski was still the guy that people would take in a one-game series. But I think Schisturkin's right there. He's that good.

And again, listen to you guys talk. When you're facing a top-tier goal tender, you've got to make life difficult for them because you don't have the best goalie on the ice that given night. So you've got to find a way to get to them. Yeah, it's like they found different ways to lose. They got beat pretty soundly by Pittsburgh. They maybe deserved a better fate last night. There's been games where their goalie has been the better goalie. Last night, the opposition's team was the better goalie.

Markstrom wasn't overly, overly busy when you think about it. What were the shots at the end of the night that didn't even allow 20 shots? He was 20 on the button, yeah. It's, it's frustrating. It's getting late early. And that's kind of a tired saying. I feel for, I feel for the coaches, they've had very little in the way of practice time. The power play goes over again.

I think it's an 0 for 16 skid that they're on right now. They're 1 for 19 on that road trip and they're 0 for last night. So that's one of your last 23. That's miserable. Dylan Dubay scored in the first period of the Washington game. There you go. And since then, it's been nothing. So Mark Savard comes in and now another first time guy.

First time coach, first time GM, first time power play. Have fun, boys. Fill your boots. Well, let me ask you guys this. When you're looking at teams, who is the guy on the Calgary Flames that is the lead alpha dog? Who is the guy who, you know, the team circles around that guy? Obviously, we know you can name other teams. Colorado's got McKinney.

and McCar, right? Like those are two world-class players that, but, you know, when push comes to shove, those are the guys that step up. Edmonton, it's dry-siddle and McDavid. In Vancouver, it's Pedersen and Hughes. Like, you know, in Toronto, it's Austin Matthews. Even though John Tavares is the captain, Austin Matthews is the alpha dog there. He's the guy, right? So who's, who's that guy for the flames? They don't have them. We debated it yesterday on this show. We talked about it last night after the game when you need someone to step up who is it who is it and he's he's maybe in that locker room but we've not seen him not who who's in that locker room i'll go against my own argument who's the alpha dog in in in vegas is it jack ickel is it

stone probably stone right you got petrangelo twos one like i get it you can elaborate on that point right it's like there's there's there's it's it's it's it's it's it's It's by committee, but all of those guys are damn good players, right? So that's what I'm expecting out of Calgary. If you've got some damn good players who, when they play to their potential, Nazim Kadri just hasn't looked like himself. I don't know, you know, watching that Columbus game. I'll go back a couple.

There was two scene plays on the power play where he was whiffing on pucks. Like you're, you can whiff on one. You can't whiff on two. Like, you know, I don't know if he just hasn't found his rhythm. It was nice to see Coleman have a nice game last night. You know, I think he's, he's getting paid a lot of money to be an impact player, you know, a Stanley Cup winner, a guy who's kind of been in the trenches. And I expect more of him just because of the pedigree that comes with him. You know, we can go individually right through the lineup.

And, you know, Zedorov came out guns blazing. Was that yesterday or two days ago? Yesterday. He wasn't wrong. Like, he's not wrong. Like, what's the excuse in that room now? The big bad Daryl's gone. what's what's now what's the problem like are they treating huska who's a great coach they treating him

like the substitute teacher like what's the deal here like to me uh this is all the players in the room because i think huska's a a fantastic coach who prepares his team and you know you've had the hard coach you've had the the coach who's tactical and it's it's still the same product so you know this is the guys on the team they're going to find it um you know you want me to pull some positive stuff. I think Markstrom looks a lot closer to the Markstrom from a couple years ago for me. So that's a positive thing where, yes, he gave the leaky goal up last night. But I thought he was, you know, he's solid enough. Again, it comes back to one mistake on a team that doesn't score, you know, it's going to, you shine a light on it. But if you make one mistake,

mistake on a team that gives, that can score four or five, you don't even talk about that goal. So I think Markstrom closer to what I see out of his game than it was two years ago than last year very wildly and consistent. I think he's the closest guy they have to an alpha too. When he's on, you know, he runs hot. He can be a game breaker. No, there isn't a guy you can put down a pen for 30 on this team, noodles, and that's horrifying.

And Nazam Kodry's 33. What if he just doesn't have it anymore? He wouldn't be the first guy at 33 that couldn't hang. Like, he's 33. There's six years left. 33. Yeah, I think is a guy who plays on emotion, you know, and I, and I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like him running hot. I like him engaged. I like him playing in that gray area. It's tough to do

82, but you better find it when things aren't going well. Like that's when you rely on guys to give the team a lightning rod. Hey, I like I used to be him, right? Like that used to be what he did was the-destirmer. Well, it caused the shit that got everybody else riled up and ready to go. Well, exactly. Like, he's the guy that whether you wanted to be in a war or not, he dragged you into it. You're in one. Like I did that Ottawa Buffalo game last night. This Brady Kachuk was a man possessed. You know, by the end of the second period, they're losing 5'1 and it's ugly. And he looks like he has a, you know, a couple month injury, the way he left the ice with his, I don't know if it was an elbow or shoulder. He comes out in the third. And, you know, he's a man possessed. Like, you know, they end up losing and Ottawa's got some stuff that they got to sort out. But my point on all of this is there's no question who runs that room. There's no question who the pulse of that team is. And Kachuk dragged them into it where they almost got away.

They got back into the game and then gave up an empty netter. But, you know, Brady drags the minute. I think Nas is a guy who can drag you into it, but he has to do it. And I think, you know, it's a fine line. You can speak to this two confidence. If he's not a 100% confident in his game, it's tough for him to point out and go, I need more from you,

I need more from you, when he's not at the top of his game. And that becomes a scary story, though, because if you're 33, you've won a cup at what point do you need confirmation on what you are and how you're supposed to play? You should, by this point, haven't figured out.

You can lose your momentum him and a little bit of mojo, but I think that's based on kicking your feet up more than a confidence thing. And I think there is a little bit that's happened of that has happened for for Kaji. I don't think at the age of 33 and after winning the cup and after signing a big contract, that that that piss and vinegar that he was known for, I think it's all leaked out. There's, I think a lot of it's gone. There was a situation last year. And even if you hated the coach, They played a team Chicago, Blackhawks.

They win and they probably make the playoffs. Nazim was less than non-effective. He was a huge detriment and probably cost his team that game and a Stanley playoff berth. Okay, let's get over it. New year, new coach, new GM, new attitude. That's great.

I thought Codry's a little bit better last night. He showed a couple of flashes and had a couple chances. But he's not, like you said, he's not playing that Brady-Kuchak role where I'll be damned if I'm going to lose this game. And I'm not, and if I do lose, you're going to know damn well you were in a fight.

Or you leave the rink rangers. You're going to know that we were here. We lost, but screw you. I ain't taken it lying down. He doesn't have that anymore. He's yet to show it as a Calgary flame. The elephant in the room is that they brought a guy to pay him $10.5 million

and we haven't mentioned his name in 10 minutes when we've asked about game breakers because everyone I feel like is walking on eggshells around. You give a guy that much money and you make it all signing bonus and you lock him up until he's nearly 40 and you can't buy it out

and there's no way to get rid of it. You are expecting a game breaker. It ain't happening. Yeah. Another guy that I don't think it's going to happen for. That's been my concern for two years. Yeah. I mean, you're right. Huberto is, in my opinion, a terrific support player.

Like, you know, he's, if there's a one, he's not the alpha. He's a good two because you didn't even play on Barkov's line noodles. Like that, you're exactly right. It was him Bennett and Duclair. What a second line. Right. Like he's a, he's, you know, to me, he's immensely talented, talented players as we know, they run on confidence.

They run on field. they run on, you know, hey, is everything going well? If it's going well, they're creative. They just kind of, you've got to just let them be. And hopefully they live within the structure. But, you know, with that comes, okay, are you creative? Are you making people around you better? Are you helping lend home out?

Are you helping your linemates out? Are you giving them the looks that they need if you're an elite passer? And, you know, there was a time. And it's not that long ago that, you know, that, you know, that Hubert O was and should be an elite playmaking winger. That's, you know. Second end scoring to McDavid two years ago. Like, this is insane.

I said this to Ryan last night after the game. And it's not a feel sorry for him, but he has to be, as much as we sit here and we're confused and wonder where his game is gone, what must he be thinking? Here is a guy that is a year and a half to two years removed from being an, elite player. He really, it was 115, 118. He, he has to be sitting there and at home wondering,

what has happened? Where has my game gone? Because it, it happens so quickly. Why is it gone? And where has it gone? How has it changed so quickly without any real explanation? Well, the guy, the thing that I've noticed in the league and the guys who play till they're late in their 30s is where's the adaptation. of his game. Okay? So if you can't do something, you know, in your 30s that you used to be, used to do easily when you're in your 20s, you got to find a way to still be effective. And it's, you know, throw out the contract. The contract is a different conversation. Find a way to be effective for what you have right now. And that's not just for Jonathan Hubbard. That's for Nazim Kadri. That goes for, you know, Michael Backland, I feel has gotten better with

time because he identified what he was really good at and he worked at some of the things that he wasn't and he just became a really well-rounded player and one thing i noticed that i don't know if you guys would i i've noticed as time has gone on he's had a little bit more bite to his game like he he understands he's got to get underneath the skin and chip at people and stuff he's not going to fight but it's compete and you know huberto if he's at a crossroads of that transition from, you know, things are real easy. I used to be able to slow the game down, draw people to you and make that pass.

And all of a sudden, the game is fast and I'm not, I'm not able either to keep up from a mental standpoint, like, hey, it's quick and I got to make that play quick, or I want to try and slow it down and it's not there yet. He's got to adapt very quickly. And, you know, I think that's what you guys are pointing out is, you know, we're 10 minutes into the conversation and it's finally coming up. Like, you know, where is this guy's game at?

and what is a realistic expectation? Personally, me going into the season, I expected him to be an 80 to 90 point player. So, you know, on the score sheet, most nights, you know, have a big night three point here or there, and be a difference maker, especially special teams. You just talked about it, one for 23. That's his wheelhouse.

You're not getting hit. You should have time to slow things down if you get set up. Like these are the types of things that, If you're not going to be a five-on-five driving force, you better be damn good on the power play because that's what you're getting paid for as well. Is it a possibility? I mean, we're going deep dive now. Like, is it a possibility that the guys around him aren't creative enough?

You know what I mean? Because he's highly creative or was, or supposedly was. I didn't watch him play in Florida. So, but 115 points you'd think that and no one has a great passer and this and that. Well, do the guys around him need to adapt as well? Well, could that be part of the issue that they aren't that creative, that they're more straight line kind of guys? That's fair.

I actually think that's a great comment because not every team and especially knowing who the coach was the last couple years, they were a straight line team. They were, you know, let's play north-south. Let's get the puck at the net. Let's, you know, they're a shot volume team, all of that type of stuff where that was a huge adjustment for Huberto. So, you know, the way the look at the team is built, if you want to go, let's look at the players that he's surrounded with. Are they creative? You know, has he, as he developed chemistry with them where if you are a straight shooter, then are you getting

open for him? And is he, you know, sometimes it's chicken or the egg. Is he laid on the play, or are they not getting to where he needs them to get to, to get him the puck? You know, you're right. it's thinking outside the box, not just going, this guy's making 10 and a half million and he's not producing and not impactful. Okay. So do a deep dive on how do you make him impactful? How can he be impactful if he is now 30 years old? If he has still had a tough time adjusting from going from the east to the west. Now again, the west is a little bit grittier. Like I will, doing these games and stuff, noticing the style of play can, you know, east to west. West, the West does have a little bit more physicality bite on any given night.

And, you know, notwithstanding, like the Bruins play hard. And there's some teams out east that play hard. But I'm just talking style of play. Huberto hasn't looked extremely comfortable, you know, really since he's put on a flames uniform, comfortable in his own skin, where it's like, hey, I know what I am. I know what I'm capable of out here. And I'm going to show you. And the challenge is,

like he's been rammed with one guy since he got here 13 months ago. He's played with Lindholm. He's played with Tofoli. He's now played with Sharon Govich. He's played with Backlund's line. He's played with Cadry. Like it's literally the whole roster. Manjpani Dubey, like there isn't a guy that they haven't tried. And to be fair, it wasn't like

he was with Wizards with Sam Bennett and Anthony McClare. Those are, but everybody plays different. Yeah. And so like I'm just, it feels like we're really scratching and claw to find why it isn't working. And the last thing you want to acknowledge is like, maybe he just don't got it anymore. Well, it's early-ish, you know, I know that that's the, we've had this saying on our shows.

It's like, okay, it's one game, but it's two games, but it's five games, but. Like, you know, at what point do you start to take a look at it and go, okay, we're six games in and going, not seeing much? So I get that everybody's upset as a Flames fan and we're hoping for difference. The only saving grace for me is if it continues, it just makes what we argued about all summer, are they good or bad? It just makes the clarity for Craig Conroy. Really crystal, crystal.

He does not need the crystal ball. He can see what's going on. Yeah. I mean, that makes sense too. If you're looking at extensions and looking to sign guys until they're 38 years old, you know, careful what you wish for because you're you're looking at we'll say two guys that have had slow

starts in huberto and cadry that have term and are in their 30s and you know i i was going to say too ret the saving grace out of all of this too and this is why i'm i'm trying to preach a bit of patience is the pacific division is a disaster outside of vegas right you know everybody else is kind of stub their toe or just trying to find their way. Like, LA, you know, putting it together a little bit. But Seattle got their second win. Edmond is stuck on one win. And, man, that's a disaster up there right now. You know, Vancouver looks good. But, you know, will they come back to Earth a little bit? Like, there's no, like, dominating force outside of Vegas. So, you know, the West is kind of wide open. So if you do get your act together and kind of climb out, there's, there's a long runway.

and an opportunity to be a playoff team and get better as the season goes on. So that's kind of my only like, okay, let's take a breath and see how this unfolds. But at some point, you're waiting for guys to go, okay, like snap out of it here. Our systems are tight. You know, they only get. And it's, I don't disagree with you. And that's a great point. The conference division, there's all kinds of opportunities still to find your way into playoffs.

but but you do not right now but if it continues you do see them going up against teams like the rangers and not being able to beat them or or or you know even Vegas like how so so if you make the playoffs because your division is shit how many of those teams typically do anything in the playoffs maybe it doesn't matter right but so you can either way it just it is what it is I wanted to make one other point because I'm going to forget. We don't mention Lindholm enough. A guy that's in a contract here, what are we, what's,

what how many games in are we seven? Yeah. And not that I would portray his game as bad and he does a lot of little things. Is he making a statement for what he's looking for by in the first seven games? Or have you been like, yeah, I'll be, you asked that at the start of this conversation.

you asked who's the alpha yeah who's like is that not like fucking contract year nine million you want the opportunity to put a stamp on what you're asking for he's not doing it no i you see a lot of you know his numbers are decent he's got almost a point of game two four and six and seven like he's but it's not this grab it and go hey i i i don't even know. I'm not going to pretend to know what he's asking for or whatever, but let's just assume it's something with an eight or nine in it, right? So it's a big number. And if you're asking for a big number, you're right, go and chase it, go and earn it. Go and make them go. Go get it. We've got to have this guy in our organization for the next eight years because

he is a difference maker. He is the guy we want to build around or be one of the core pieces of this group moving forward. And that's where you're right. It might make Connie's job either more difficult the way you look at it or more easy the way you look at it is some of these guys will tell you if you want them long term or not just based on their play. And that's, you know, Hannafin's a different story. Defenseman evaluation is a lot different for me.

But, you know, as a number one centerman, again, you look throughout the league, just look at, look through Canada alone at down the middle of the ice and how teams are built and, and where does Linholm fall against, you know, against Vancouver, against Edmonton, against Winnipeg, against Toronto, against Montreal, against Ottawa. He's the second line center on most of those teams noodles and that's, that's the challenge here. For a guy that wants better than Bo Horv that money, he looks more and more like an O'Reilly Bergeron light, not a number one center that can create on his own. I think he's really good defensively, but I would be really hesitant to pay him the number

that he needs to get to stay here. And you've got a month till American Thanksgiving. If I'm Connie, I don't think I should sign anyone until I have some clarity because at that point, you'll have an idea whether you suck, whether you're competitive or like, man, that was a rough seven games. We're actually good, though. And all that stuff, you know, with Lindholm and Backland and Hubertoe and Cadry, you don't have to have maybe, and again, noodles, you alluded to this,

you maybe don't have to have the alpha male if everything's going well and everyone's picking up the piece of, right? But you don't have that. Yeah. You got to have one or the other. You can't have neither. Kind of like that St. Louis team that won the cup, right? They just did it by committee.

There wasn't a superstar. And we just talked about it, Vegas. Like Vegas has some, I mean, you know, for me to not call Jack Eichel or Mark's, I love Mark Stone. I think that guy's just an absolute beauty to play against because he, it was so hard. He, you know,

he plays with the type of intensity every night that you want to see out of every player, right? But they, I looked at Vegas. They did it by committee. Now, their D, two Norris caliber defensemen.

So that's, you know, you got Theodore and Petro Angelo, and then you've got a big, mean core. And their goaltending was adequate, you know, Aden Hill.

really good goaltender, but not the Chesterkin type. So you look at the way that team was built. Their third and fourth line, they were a pain in the ass to play against, but they had some skill. And that's how they were able to chip away at teams. And, you know, if Calgary is going to be built like that, if they want more balance in their roster, if they, you know, want their goaltender to be more the Chesterkin like

instead of the Aden Hill as far as, you know, trajectory, then those the core that you're paying they've got to be all in sync and playing together and it just doesn't seem like that right now seven games in so you do the ottawa game you then fly home you've got your show your radio show coming up is it going to have a little you can have a little purr little little little little napy poo before uh i think i got time to shut it down i've got young kids that'll be yelling and screaming here in an hour or two and then now i'm i'm doing show and then I'm on a flight to New York tonight. I'm calling Ottawa Islanders tomorrow. So I got to do some prep for that. And then I fly back Friday morning. And then Saturday I fly to Evanton. I'll

be at that outdoor game Sunday. And then I fly back Monday morning. And then I fly to Calgary on Wednesday morning. I'll be at the Dallas game Wednesday night. That's a 630 start. But I got to do my show I'm going to do it from the saddle dome, I think. But I got a busy schedule coming up. This is called grinding, folks. Did you see Fathead Rob Ray last night? I did not. So I was in between the benches and they can't fit a mascot-sized person

next to me because I joke that he is so big. Like he is such a commanding. I love that guy too. Like he's just the back pedal. Back pedal. Yeah, that's good, James. It's good. No, he is.

He's a sweetheart. Oh, he's tough too. He's a mascot. Lovely. But he's a good guy. Okay, Rhett, tell me his head is not the size of a mascot's head. It's massive. Yes, it's.

I call the game in Detroit, in Buffalo. Two years ago, maybe two years ago. And he stands, you know, we're in between the benches. He stands, but he stands on a riser. And I'm like, why? You're so big. So trying to see around him. It was just like this whole.

I was like, section wants refunds. Yeah, like I was just like, but he's, he's so funny and very dry sense of humor. I really enjoy spending time with him, but I did not,

to answer your question, I didn't get to visit with anybody from Buffalo barely yesterday because they were on a back to back and they didn't skate yesterday morning. So they were in and out. And they were pissed from the Montreal game because they thought they should have won. Jake Allen was the difference there.

So, I literally said hello. I saw Kevin Adams before the game. A quick hello there. I chatted with a few of the coaches. Jason Christie, I used to play. Do you don't remember him? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. So Jason Christie, I used to play against. He was with the, what was Saskatoon? He was the blades, yeah. So, yeah, I said hello to him. And, you know, just a quick, like, but I didn't see Razor at all. He must have been up top because I was in between the benches last night. Must have been eating.

He might have been. They had a decent. Well, I don't know, decent. The media meal yesterday, there was some burritos working. It wasn't, I had the, I had the burps going in the second period. You, homes. Chuck. Yeah.

Well, James, like next Wednesday, if you need some help, we have our studio. We're in Martin Loop. We're not that far from the dome. If we can help in any way, you let us know. I will. Obviously, we'll be on. We'll sort it up, but we'll be in touch before that. So stay in touch, boys.

All right, fella. It's wine night and Mardalup on Wednesdays, too. Look out. Bring your cougar spray. Nice. Thanks, James. Appreciate you. That's soon, guys.

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What the hell am I supposed to. I think he's starting to pick up the vibe of the show, but I don't think he's. I think he knows exactly what the vibe of the show is, and he can roll in any sort of social gathering. You could drop him in anything, couldn't you? 100%. Parachute in, doesn't know anyone, friends with everyone by the minute.

Run the room, tell some stories, get people laughing. He's a sweet boy. He's a sweet, sweet boy. Sharon Govich, we wanted to, we wanted him freed yesterday. Get him off that line. Get him away. He was freed yesterday. Again, we're squinting to find potentially some positive. Again, of all the games, I didn't hate yesterday's game. You're not happy with the result. And had they beaten Columbus or if they're,

you would just, okay, they got beat by a very good team. But the effort was there. The try was there. There was more attention to detail. Markstrom didn't have to stand on his head. They're just goal start. They're goal challenged right now. You play like that. You beat Columbus. You play like that. You finish off, Washington. Like that's the challenge here is when you play poorly against poor team.

Now it feels like such a wasted effort, whereas that could be a heartening result. If that was the second game of the year and you beat Winnipeg and systems were loose, your goalie saved the day and then you lose to the range of it. Hey, the system's tightened up a bit. Like, oh, that's fine. But on the heels of that road trip, it's tough. And the lack of consistency. Like you'd not,

like, if you have last night's effort, 90% of the season, you're going to have decent results. Well, it's fine. But now you have to, you have to play with that jam and that desire. We just,

you didn't see that over the road trip enough. So then you have to question it. Yeah. I mean, and it felt like they limited their mistakes. There wasn't, the penalty kill got scored on twice, but they're both beautiful tips.

It's not like it's a system's break. down necessarily, right? And they were due for that. We talked about it. The number of wide open looks that guys had on one timers that missed or, you know, hit a post. Like, they were due for that to go away. I am worried about the power play. It's, it's rough, rough, rough. And it also ties into that alpha finisher conversation that we had last night and just with noodles. Like, who is going to score? Yeah. Yeah. We'll let you hear from a couple of the fellas in a moment. I want to remind you, we announced it yesterday. Already some sales already we're getting some people they're booking their spots to come to phoenix it is the

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Okay. And if any history has taught us anything, Rhett will then go to a different resort hotel and then ask for a refund on his room for the one we've booked for. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can refine me for that. I didn't use that room. Good to know that red is in the city limits.

Won't be with us. A greater Phoenix. Yeah, it'll be somewhere. Scott's Daly. Hey, you can stop by the pool. You know where it is. Do they let just? Yeah.

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I'm telling you that. I know you want to get to the comments of the players. There was also, like, we talked about the game a bunch without talking about maybe the most concerning part. And also, and it's, you know, presented and supported by Alberta Blue Cross. Of course, that's right. Border Blue Cross taking care. If you're going to travel, you need travel insurance. You need travel insurance. We're just going to go show up at the airport, start flying around. what are you, Rhett Warner? Seriously. Give your head a shake.

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It could be significant. It could be a head bump. It could be something busted, strained, sprained in there. He was very, very, very slow to get back to his feet. and didn't seem to have his wits about him. No, I reached out this morning,

and like I think with all of them, they're hoping it's not as bad maybe as it looks. Right. That he won't. And the other part of it is they had AJ Greer out of the lineup. Yeah. So if the game is tomorrow, if Ruzitschka can't play,

and that's a very fair assertion, then he comes back in. But then if they're so capped out, whatever you want to call it, their ability to maneuver, is pretty tight. So I don't know what they're going to do. They could put Peltier and Rooney on LTIR,

but you just don't want to do that until you absolutely have to. And if Rooney, sorry, and if Rezitschka can't go short term, that puts them in that bind because they'll need the space. If it's like collarbone C in three months, then you put him on LTIR. Like it's a tough spot you're in. You're already down Peltier.

You're already in the Rune dog. I don't think anyone was factoring in being here, Kevin Rooney, sorry. Schillington is not here. Anderson suspended. you don't get relief from his money. You're already playing Osterly and Gilbert. You know, AJ Greer, you got on waivers.

Like, this is, you're seeing a lot of the bottom of the NHL roster right now. We're almost in Warner territory, for Christ's sake. I remember a few years ago? He's like, I could play for the other than that. That guy that was playing 23 minutes in the Stanley Cup finals? That's right. That's around. Jeez.

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Yeah. We'll talk to the boys at Finning. Yeah. They got us. Fellas. Sort of. Back us up. We got to fix Marta Loop fellas.

Come on. That's going to go. Just loan us a little. Yeah, it's got it going. Want to play a couple of. things. Now we have some pre-game commentary and some post-game commentary from members of the Calgary Flames. Oh. Which would you like first, Rhett? Do you want to hear it makes sense to go pre and then chronological order to make it. I'm with you should. All right. Well, as now before the game,

there was some there was some optimism going to come out and play well. But there was still that that stench of the subpar road trip. Nikita Zedorov was asked a number of things, and you heard Jamie McClennan kind of talk about it. These are the comments that, whether you want to call them controversial, I'll say they're honest, but this was Nikita Zedorov yesterday morning

before the game against the Rangers. We have too many individuals playing by themselves, so I think we're going to figure out so we want to play us to the team or we want to play us the home guy. Well, last season was different, different. Like, the, I mean, it was Daryl. Now there's no Daryl, so there's no excuses.

You know what I mean? You guys don't like hard coaches, you don't like good, soft coaches, you don't like good coaches, fair. Like, I mean, you just, it's a new day league. You come up here, you play hard and you just leave everything on the ice. I think that's how simple is. Well, you gotta be uncomfortable in your life, I think. your life I think I don't think you should be comfortable in your life or you're not

going to be best version of yourself you know what I mean so I think it's definitely a good thing for a team we only six games into the season and we're trying to figure out who's want to be here who wants to play for who so we got lots of time so interesting honest now some of the players I know Nazim Kadri came out and was asked about those comments he's no I don't think it's individual. I think guys are trying to make plays and we're trying to create offense and this. But if you are, if you're wanting drama, if you're wanting intrigue and there to be infighting or whatever, then that will wet your whistle for sure. That there is,

there guys are trying to be individuals who wants to be here, who wants to play for each other. So now you want to coach stuff's interesting to him dabbling in that. That's that, that, that is not much less than a direct shot at some guys. Last year was there. This year there's no Darrell. Now it's hard coach. Now you don't like a soft coach. I'm not sure if that's your first time hearing those are not read. It came out yesterday.

But just, I guess, thoughts on Zedorov. It's, I don't think it's overly controversial. It's just very honest. He just spoke his mind. That's how he feels. I like that. I think that, you know, after the fitting cat, a little chat you had, we got to call him the big cat.

I like that. Yeah, that is good. And I think I agree with you, Dean. I think there's a lot of honesty. in there. He had some pause and he didn't know how to put it and he went with the truth. Yeah. And I think when it's someone's second language too, sometimes it's like, okay, am I using the right words? But like what he was trying to get across, he didn't. It might have been more blunt and maybe less politically correct than someone might in their native tongue. But it's all the things he felt lost in translation there. I think you would you could frame things a little less directly and say the same thing.

I just think, go ahead. You said wet your whistle. I think there's something there. I think there's. Oh, for sure. Yeah. So it's, and, you know, we, we griped with each other yesterday because we like doing that anyway about Backland, but that it's, it's an all encompassing thing. Backland doesn't have to grab the bull by the horns if they're all on the same page and playing the way they're supposed to.

And, right? So I just think we talked about it. We've, we've noticed it in past years. And I think we noticed it last year when teams are telling you how close they are and then you watch them and you go. Why doesn't show up on the air? It doesn't show. Yeah. It doesn't.

Something's not correlating for me. We're not that dumb. And I think you're, whether it's remnants of last year that are just kind of playing themselves out and they're going to pull out of this or not. I don't know. But there, there was something last year. And I think there's still bits and pieces of it. no. Yeah, we knew the room wasn't good. We knew Daryl was a part of that, but not the whole thing.

We kept saying, this is no one problem team. There's lots of issues here. I don't know. Like, Zedorov, I think he's kind of winning a lot of people over. You appreciate the honesty. You appreciate his work ethic. Big cat. But he's also the big cat, the guy when he's last man back trying to go end to end sometime. Talk about individual play. That could be perceived as individual. So, I mean, I like what he's doing here, but this is not the model of consistent. and see stability and like team first play. Let's let's acknowledge that too. I appreciate the honesty.

I'm willing to to look past that and just acknowledge that. I think that this is a guy that cares. I don't think he's trying to throw guys under the bus. I think this is it. It's honest and it's in an effort to say, guys, this is, there are issues here. What do we want to do? It's early. Let's get our shit together because we're better than this.

And I think, I think that they are to what degree remains to be seen. but they're better than this. They should be better than this. Yeah, and to be fair, they're two wins away from being 500 and in a playoff spot and in really good shape in the Pacific Division.

So fellas, can you beat St. Louis and as bad as Edmonton has looked at Benton Club in the last three years, like without McDavid, it's right there. Yeah, you could,

there's lots of ways to take it, one of them being that if you want real trouble, go north and let's watch what's unfolding up there. Yeah, I still think you'd trade to have those two superstars. Oh, you would.

But I know what you're saying. Again, you start reading the team like, oh, it's not right up there either. What's what's going on here? Like, they still have a, they still have a much better forward in Leon Drysidal. If you're looking for a game breaker, then flames do, right? So. Most, than 29 teams probably. Yeah.

The other thing I wanted to say was that comment about being uncomfortable. I'm sure Daryl Sutter's not the only coach that believes in that or has preached that. But I know for a fact. well, I guess it's not a fact. My perception of Big Cat using that yesterday, that was a Darrell Sutter, basically a quote from Sutter last year. He doesn't want guys comfortable. Yeah.

Right. And when you sign seven times seven and you're 33, please don't be comfy because you're not going to play well. No. It was the same thing with our pal Troy Brower. Like it was good guy. You can, it's the list of players. But it's just when you arrive in free agency in your 30s and you tell people you're building your dream home, it's like, oh boy, those deals usually don't work.

I like Troy. I do too. I don't blame him. The agent and the GM made the deal. Oh, and Troy. It's in Calgary. I mean, guys, you're mad? A guy wants to be in Calgary?

What the hell is wrong? I want to be here. You keep telling me. You guys don't want to play Calgary. Come on, hey. Pick your story. Love to be here. Now, so after that,

whether you agree or disagree or the guys in the room were on board with those comments or not, they came out and they played a better game and still came up with a defeat. Now, this is Blake Coleman post game and another guy, veteran brought in here for leadership, Stanley Cup experience, all of that sort of thing. scored in the first period. I thought their line was the best line of the night. They might have had five shifts in the first 723 because they went to commercial break and it was every other shift for the, right until the first TV time. out because they were great and Huska's like

all right you boys want to do this keep going creating chances and Coleman gets denied on that sprawling place saved by Shisterkin gets his own rebound gets stopped again like then later in the game he has a chance he could have had a hat he last night and that's your defensive checking third line so again it's it's whatever you're kind of

sniffing for but you know is it is it the losing to the Rangers that has him upset or is it something more here's Blake Coleman post game losing's got to keep you up at night I know it's It's easy to say, but I'm sick of losing. I think I could speak for the guys in our room that we're sick of losing.

But it burns me up. You've got to be one of those guys that hates to lose more than when. And I think, you know, we're just as a group, we've just got to be, we've got to have way more fire. Too flat in the second period. Let the game get out of hand. And it's just the same story so far. And we've got to figure this out real quick.

also went on to comment on the Zadora of things that said I know where Biggsie's coming from but I don't necessarily agree with the individual versus team stuff. So interesting. Yeah. This also falls right into that hymn book from a year ago. Do they hate losing at his point there? You got to you got to hate losing more than you love winning. Yeah. And it's when you are later in your career and you've got all the money in the world, and you lose games, and wings, what are we doing? Where are we going? And especially for some of those guys,

and not to say, I'm just going to throw Cadre's name out there, has his cup, has his money. Dude, it's been in the league for 15 years. I think that it is hard for guys in the later stages of their career to see that big picture. And to be able to say, I am going to do what it takes.

If it's more time in the gym, if it's the little things. Every day I'm going to do more. I'm going to do the little things to make myself better. And then if you look around the room and that's not reciprocated, I think it's hard. It's not even maybe about making yourself better. It's finding the energy at that level or at that age.

And it's not a cop out and some guys do it. But the fire that Coleman spoke about. the hatred of losing. And then at that age, after having had success and going through it, when you're 40, you feel different than when you're 30. When you're 50, you feel different than when you're 40. The hockey is so hard to play with the schedule and the physical demands of every game. It's not something that is just, it's not, this isn't a shot at, it's not baseball.

it's not baseball and football is extremely demanded but they play once a week and nobody plays when they're 35 yeah right like this sport you see in basketball the really good players now

when they hit 30 they start taking days off they skip games and it's not as I'm sure it is demand I didn't play but I'm sure it's very hard because they do play 82 but it's not as physically demanding as hockey hockey is its own unique beast

and you get above 30 with the way the kids are and they still got all that energy and they still got all that Vib and Vigger. At 33 it is extremely difficult to show up with it's not the emotion that you need to have

and play at a high level all the time. It's just an extreme guys do it but it's extremely rare and difficult too. You got to be obsessed. You'd be wired like Sid. And that's why guys like Sid or Chara, even Gio in a way, was obsessed with it. Like you have to, if you rest on your laurels at all, you are getting older.

And the league, we say it every year, getting faster. It was interesting going back to the, remember the conversation we had with Robin Reggear this summer? When he talked about getting that contract offer in L.A. Where he was offered a three-year deal and said, you know what? Dean Lombardi, right? I'll do two. So he turned down millions of dollars because he just knew I'm just, I'm not going to have, I don't have it in me to play three more.

I don't have three more off seasons. I can do this for another couple of years and I feel I can give you quality minutes and I can give you my best. It's going to be a lot of work, but I can't do three years, which we shook our head. Who does that? And it's $4.30. It's not nothing, Rutz.

Not nothing. Yeah, it was a lot of money. But you hear it all the time. If you think you're retired, you're retired. If you think you're done, you might be done. Nobody leaves, I mean, I shouldn't say, anyway, very few players leave the game on their terms. You're already seeing it with like Stamcoast. Career Bolt, first overall, still very good.

And he's like, we don't really want to give you a long-term deal. Like guys every year, I think I've definitely got a season or two. No, you don't. You're done. Sorry. Happens quick. How old were you at when all of a sudden it was like, wow, I was losing my spot. when it was over and it was 31, 32, when I realized,

I tried to change how I was going to play, which is, again, a ridiculous. It's hard to do. We're going to change my game. I'm going to be a smooth skating, puck carrying defenseman now or not play physical. Yeah. That should have been my first realization. And when I look back on it, I can see it now.

But I can remember, I'm going to change my game. I'm just going to play. No, you're done, buddy. And is that because just physically the toll to play the way you had was too much? Yeah, the emotion, the body was given out too, but the emotion, you have to have an emotional component to this game. And it's, and a lot of, a lot of people don't like that side of it. And I've said it before, I don't know if I've said it on the air.

My oldest was playing baseball one spring. You go to the ring, go to the ball diamond, high fives, having fun. Grounders. Oh, that. throw. Come on, you dummy, make a good throw. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's yucking it up. And it's, I love it. I love baseball. And I love baseball for that. I love you. Get to first, hey, how's it going, buddy? Nobody's mad and screaming and pissed off. We went. So, kids playing baseball. He's got a spring, or, uh, his team for the winter is going to play. It's early August and they have a random practice. They'd be practicing a little bit.

This is hockey now. And I said to my kid, well, you should probably go. You don't know all the kids. We should at least go there. And he didn't really want to, but I'm like, you need to meet everyone. We worked two minutes into the skate. For fakes, make up. Pass, what the way, no way.

It's a different. It's a different. And I'm not saying right or wrong. And maybe it was overreaction on that particular. But you go to the rink and practice, it's not. hitting grounders. It's not hitting pop flies. It's not right. Like

you're not playing one of the they even call it long catch or long ball. You go to the rink and there it's just there's a there's a you have to have a hatred and you've got to play a certain way and I think a lot of that's changed and it's not as maybe mean

as it used to the game. But it's still, you still have to have that emotional side of Coleman said You've got to hate to lose. And hating to lose means you're going to hate to be outbattled. And that means you better out battle the other guy, right? Like it just breaks down to that base of I have to be meaner, harder, tougher, and more aggressive and want it more.

And that's emotion. Two teams want to win. You're lined up across from another guy. You've got to want it more than them. Baseball, you can't do that. Baseball, they don't listen to Pantera and it's max effort, grip the bat harder. No, it's shorten your swing. You take less bad, be smooth.

They're playing five times the next four days. We've got to double it. Patience, this is not that. This is a run through a wall. If that guy wants it more than you, we might lose sport. You know, another guy, and it just popped into my head, was Dion Funnuff. What did you, when Dion was younger and was playing, what did you? Unbelievable.

Great skater, punishing hitter, slap shots, would drop the hit occasionally, but tough and would God. Blow the skates right off your feet if you didn't have your head up. And then you know, you get older. Yes, he's making very good money. But you just get to a point where this takes its toll on me too. I just don't have it in me to play that way. I'm now 33, not 23 or 21.

And you look at it, you criticize, what the hell happened? All this guys have that. I don't know that it's, I don't know that it's, I don't. don't know that it's fair sometimes to just to criticize guys and we saw it even with luch luch doesn't fight as much as he he found his passion when he came here when he came back to calgary i thought he found it like he was lost at cinceton and i i gave him credit because once you see guys lose that emotional investment they don't often get it back like give milan credit tough key and so we know that like i believe backlins emotionally invested i believe

zedorov and coleman they hate this you know markstrom burns hot there's a lot of guys here It's just that two guys make 17.5 million. They're the highest two players. And they're not the guys we're here in this Roman Post game. And they're also guys that we're just wondering how much is left. And they don't look emotionally invested. Time for the Pinder Report, a presentation of Village Honda, the good folks at Village Honda. You know what?

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Four games in a row in Alberta, Red, three of which indoors in Calgary. They started with a very good Rangers club that has been touted as a contender in that Metro Division and out east. And rightfully so with all their star power. It was not a win. It was a shuffled lineup. We saw top line Yigore again. We saw an injury to a forward and we saw another loss for the Flames third in a row. Here's Afterburner.

In a weird way, I kind of feel for him because he has to. to be wondering where did my game go? I was a hundred point player. I was a baffling. I was an all-star. I was a star forward in this league. And right now, I'm now into another season where I don't know where my game is gone. I don't know if you, if you'd only seen him in a flames jersey, how could you even imagine 82 points? Never mind. You've got another, add another 33 points to get to 115? Like how the fuck can he do that? This guy? Turnover machine soft on the puck, loses every puck battle, like low percentage pass all day trying to be pretty. What are we doing? And I feel for him because when you sign that deal, your expectations to come with it. And those are going to cripple him because he is not anywhere near a $10.5 million player. I was Hubert. I don't think we needed to give you that, though. That was. Yeah, we could have done a contest.

Now who which flame was it? text the show. The biggest contract in Flav's history. Who is it? Another uplifting edition. And the thing is, like, he is getting some points, but it's just so disheartening the way

he's playing. Yeah, we've. If it was the opposite, you could live with it. Like, boy, he's working his tail off. He's just snake bit and he can't get any points. I thought he was trying last night almost. To me, it was almost worse because he was trying.

Yeah. I thought he was trying almost. and it made it worse Oh shit All right Well keep moving Here's the the Roach injury Rosie your boy's been up and down

As this whole career has been Rather inconsistent But back looking like a productive Top 9 forward on the wing Until clunk head first And they go How is that not boarding fellas?

Like I know that angle's particularly the worst But if Rizitschka Like they have the stop signs on the name in minor hockey for a reason. This is directly headfirst into the glass. What the ref is? Look where the ref is. And then they gave out a boarding call later in the game.

I'm trying to remember who, and it was not nearly as bad. It was Cooley, got a boarding call at the end of the second. Like, it's very frustrating when this player looks, if you had to guess, like you're going to be missing him for a bit with some sort of an injury. And that you have Zedorov put his hand on somebody's hip. docy do and oh well you bet get get out of here do you mean the big cat

the big cat put his hand on a hip and got called for a hold that and uh that it feels like when it rains a porous fellas because he has been one of the few silver linings this season if you had expectations versus results he's doing better than you probably

would have pegged him at camp he would have him your fourth line center he's been good they're going to mess him if he's gone and not to say that the refing it's just that's it's just frustrated. That feels like a pretty easy call. And it's frustrated because the kid got hurt. If you get hit face first into the glass and you leave the season for a portion because of injury and it looks like a board, it just feels like negligence on the referees here. And I know that

angle is the worst, but still like that is a video of it happening. What the hell is the angle that shows it's good. Well, yeah, it's, there's no angle where he doesn't get hurt. I know that. There's no angle where he doesn't go head first into the glass. Meanwhile, Rasmus, you know, he's public enemy number one, I guess. Why does Betman hate the flames? He's espomming, too, apparently. Doesn't give a shit. That's what he said to Conroy.

Conroy's like, well, it's still four games, really? Like, gosh, gee, golly, gee. Oh, gee, scare, come on. Now, this really hurts it out of good time for the scare. Gary's like, you know what? World Series is on. I don't give a shit. It's four games. Here was the lines after Roach left, fellas. They put Nazim on the wing and rotated two centers through four lines. That's why you probably didn't see a lot of Hunt Coronado down the stretch.

And then in the post game, it was like, yeah, we probably played Linholm too much. Moving cadre to the wing probably isn't a sign that thinks you're going well after a good first period from him. Huska is just trying everything. You don't want to panic and overcorrect, but you also don't want to sit on your hands and do nothing. it's a tough spot to be. On the other hand, if any of you donkeys want to find some chemistry somewhere with one another. Aside from the one line that we've counted on,

which has been Backland for years. For years, the one man, Japan Trio, if any of you other guys want to find some sort of comfort in playing with one another. And if you're in that dressing room, you're college, and you don't like who you're playing with

and it's been moved around, you're telling me that you don't feel comfortable walking into Coach Huska's room, and listen, just five games. See this? Five. I need five games. Let me play with so-and-so. Husk is pretty. All right. Yeah.

Please. Cool. Let's give it a go. And you go back to a year ago. It's clear that's the Lindholm-Huberdell thing. There was no chemistry again. I can't play with this guy. Yeah.

And whether it happened that way or the coach just saw it and like, this ain't a fit. And I still think. Watch this. So I'm going to take them off your line and put them on the right side. And play them with God or the problem, child. Have fun. What number is he? Let's move.

There's a lot of data coming out. There's a new NHO website called Edge, and they've got this player tracking data. This was a bunch of stuff, hardest shots, fastest skating, largest distance covered, blah, blah, blah. Boy, that's a lot of data. All you need to do is look for Flames logo is Michael Baxter. Mackland, 25 miles an hour.

One of your 20 fastest players in the league, apparently by top speed. There you have it, Bax. The only other guy on there is Lynn Holm. Leon is the 10th fastest. Top speed. You know, why all this stuff? And there's some guys there that it's like, really?

But look at Chucky. Less surprising. Heavy feet. Anyway, that's some fun stuff. If you're into that kind of nerd stuff, that's from J. Fresh. 400, 404. It'd be great. Haniffin had a hard shot.

get one at 95. So hard. Hard. Hard shot. And I guess we go to the preview Sunday. It is the Alberta team struggling a bit here. Let's get a little preview of the Heritage Classic fellas. I don't know if this NHL or the Flames and Oilers doing this. Oh, it's a

very hard common about threat. It's the it's the toilet bowl. It's going to be a clash of the Titans. Oh, dear. Yeah. These two meet finally. That's Calgary on the right. Oh, boy, the Oilers just lost the bowl there. That is I got stuck watching that stupid thing

And then it got in the algorithm And then I couldn't get away from it They're just constantly smashing shit Well you're saying how do you find this dumb shit It's you find one then they know Yes it's just oh so you're you're an idiot I've got a full folder of idiot check this out What are you doing for the next five hours

Because here we go Nine plus hours of hockey last night It was the frozen frenzy If you were in the States What a what a day Did you do any ice surfing there last? Last night, Red, game to game with our friends on ESPN? I just watched the flames and the baseball, so no, I wasn't.

Not a frenzy. Again, more confirmation as times passed. This absolutely is something that you could have gone and syndicated in Canada. Easily, yes. The galaxy-brained humans at SportsNet said, no, despite a huge marketing push from the league and our biggest television partner, we will pass and show you World Series of Poker over to Phil Helmuth, who's the big blind. Well, and I think they had baseball on four channels.

No, but they had one and 360. 360 had poker. I understand, but I- No, there's a channel open showing the same thing on four channels, fellas. Keith Pelly. It's not cute. It's not got more.

It's not your way. Great parlay, Dean. I almost hit all them. Almost. What is almost pay? The Seattle. You won one of the bets. Yeah.

I won the one, and then the other one I was off by stupid cracking. If you've been betting on Vegas, you've been doing okay. Close game last night. Where are they finding these guys? Paul Cotter is a guy we've noticed. Mr. Cotter? Mr. Cotter? Watch this move.

Welcome back. Retro. Cotter stumbles into the skates of Carlson's center circle. Potter back on his blades with speed between the... Oh! Left shot coming in. Was like Chris Terrian on the point for the flyers? Oh dear, that's a shot.

Is that Chris Terrian? Shel Samuelson? Catching a stray. Moving like a hatcher brother out there. That is so dirty. Looks like he's going to shoot it, pulls it through his legs, gathers it, and then goes high glove. That's Jeff Carter, Carter's brother.

No. Cotter. That's what I said. Mr. Carter. Pretty. That would tie the game of two. They'd win a three, two. Vegas.

Vegas, six, seven, eight, nine, seven in a row, one more win, eight in a row, I believe. That's, that's good. Yeah, it's really good. They're good. They're good. Colorado's good. Boston, we're going to lose Char and then we're going to lose Bergeron. And we're just, and we're just, and we're just, man, and we'll bring back

passed on some super team friendly deal when he could get on a big 15. We're just going to win every game. Why not? It's a pun of losing. One game tonight. Let's take a peek. What do we got? I mean, 32 played yesterday. Everyone's got to be tired. Oh, there you are. Caps Devils. Look, Capitals with one win.

There you go. And Ovi, did you see what he did in that one win? 14 shots. Remember, we went back-to-back games without a shot. 14. What was their one win? That was what against, there was a couple, it was last night, two nights ago. He scored the goal. Who did the Capitals? Oh, the Flames. Yeah. The Flames, sorry. Yeah.

It was an overtime, but it still win. That's one win. Dean, you're not helping. Sorry. And by the way, the devils, they off to a great start as well, they won last night. Let's check on what's going on in New Jersey. Jersey. That's off.

Oh, boy. So he's got a hat that says hat on it. What kind of cheeseball move is this? So you know the third jersey is in Jersey? They say Jersey. And it's a jersey. So it's a Jersey jersey. Now they've got a hat that says hat.

It's a hat hat hat. And he got a hat trick because he's tailored to full. And why is he standing in front of camera dancing like a clown? This is what the team social media does. When you get a hat trick to put on the hat hat hat. And it's a huge oversets. Now, I would not get a hat trick or be chosen as any sort of star. So I probably wouldn't have to do this.

But can you imagine Boomer back in the day trying to get myself or reggear or one of us crusty old bastards to. Hey, guys, we're going to just do something here for the internet. If you could just put on this hat hat. It's oversized and funny. And here's a fan chain for you, sir. Put this on. And then if you could just kind of do like a little dance or something. And then we'll put it up on the internet.

Do you want to do the gritty? We could please start now. You'd be halfway through that sentence. They would be in, they'd walk through the door into the shower. Excuse me, Mr. Bessier. Could you do a dance for Instagram? What's that? Hattrick last night.

He's having a great start. He's playing with Jack Hughes and Esper Brow on the top. Oh, you know, I'm happy for Tom. He was a good flame. Good for him. New Jersey is a good team. Now, if you're Craig Conrad, like, Jesus, you could just settle down over their top. Man, you look at me.

Look bad here. Come on, geez. You know. We've scored three goals all season. You had three last night. The whole game, you had three. You're making us look bad here. And this Sharon Govich guy, he's shit.

Yeah, I wouldn't go to. Could be. Oh, geez, they told me he scored 25. You sold me a bill of goods. So, Tafoli's good. The devils are good. No, who else is good, apparently. Apparently.

Some young hot shot quarterback with the Giants that Rhett made some money on last week. Let's listen to some high-powered sports talk that makes no mistakes ever. Here we go. Final story, New York Giants, you nailed this one. Tyrod Taylor. What a performance from the young quarterback. Maybe there's a controversy at quarterback in New York. The young quarterback's 33.

Yeah, this new quarterback. Brett, how old were you when you saw Tyrod as a bill? Yeah, exactly. good God. This is not a young quarterback. Do your homework, son. Possible. I was still living in Buffalo and the shopper was dating the other quarterback.

And that show with Colin Cowherd. I almost feel like they're doing it on purpose because they have had so many ridiculous claims. Who was the, wasn't it the Steelers quarterback who died? Yes. Haskins. Haskins. There's no quarterback so too. He's not going to be able to lead the Steelers to a championship.

Well, no shit, dummy. Six feet under. guy died. Just in peace. Yeah. Call and hey, he's calling Calhurt. He's making millions. I'm a fat guy sitting in Mardaloupe.

So, I mean, who's got the last laugh? But they are, uh, they make some very huge, huge mistakes. It is wine night in Mardaloupe. Don't say yourself sure. I like this show.

Well, we're perfect. So that's why we can point out other people's mistakes. Yeah. Chad Johnson's still, uh, available for signing. Why would you? Like,

I was pumping Johnson one year. We all get a little. Oh, sorry. I was thinking of the other job that feels quarterback. why are you thinking about that? No reason. You're both things. Johnson's?

Let's go to the NBA. Bapapapap but a basketball game again. Regular season underway. Look at the nugs are still good. Yokic. 29 points. They beat the Lakers. Jack.

We go to the Jack Cam for our NBA break. down what do we got jack last night in the NBA Anthony Davis still sucks 17 points in the first half did absolutely nothing in the second half zero points so it's good first half though very good first half okay and then flames yeah does actually watch this shit

oh yes I do are you a hooper I do like this a hooper and a dimer I love this yokech guy the hoop and the harm the hoop and the harm yeah other game who do we have jacko jack what we call here sons warriors sons warriors the warrior's son. Sun's 108, Warriors 104.

Devin Booker leading the way with 32. Wachia. Wash away the rain. Lockeroy, son. Oh, chica. He's also dead. That's a terrible. Good voice.

Unmistakable. They're doing an in-season tournament. You heard about this? Sounded? Yes. They're going to play NBA teams. One of the guys is dead. I think they're screwed.

You're going to be downed, man. talking short-handed. You'll get some audio slave and some other guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. We'll move to Major League Baseball. We have a World Series, fellas. And Blue Jays are well represented with Gabby Moreno and Luritus Geryl Jr. Because the D-backs got through in game seven,

Philly lost game six and seven at home. Bryce Harper, I've let down the city of Philadelphia. Hey, man. What are the lessons to learn here? Like Texas came in on a miserable string. They coughed up the division late. Their bullpen's no good. Okay, well, you need to get home runs.

Atlanta hit more home runs than anyone in the history of baseball in a season, they were upended. Oh, you just got to get hot. Philly was the hottest team. I mean, it's a crazy tournament. Two wildcard teams playing for the World Series. And what did we learn? Frank's dad, jinxie pants. Yeah, seriously.

Tell Sarah Valley to keep his dad away from that frigging baseball team. Hammering that mouthwash drink they were talking. about the parking lot. Settle down. Frank's dad. Sober up. Wormwood. Christ. Settle. You know, uh, Mike Mad Dog Rousseau's, the legendary sports talk guy, who's Mike and the Mad Dog, he, uh, earlier this week said, uh, and I got to talk like this. Uh, the Phillies, Rob, if the Diamondbacks win game six and seven, I'll, I'm going to retire on the spot. Oh. So then the Diamondbacks on their Twitter last night. So, uh, so Mike, uh,

About that retirement party. Could we host? Because they didn't. Brighan Diamondbacks. One, six and seven. I don't know how to. I don't know. I was kind of into the Phillies.

You felt like they were. It was vibes. It was all vibes. We had a guy that was there. We had an insider. He actually participated. And no one's cared about the diamond backs since it was like shilling in the big unit. Another Johnson, right?

When they won a well. And I love watching Philly when they win. They get all drunk and crazy. Yeah. They're climbing. They had grease the poles. Don't they win? They grease the poles.

You know that in Phoenix, that ballpark? Yeah. They can't, like the roof still opens, but they can't open it or close it when there's people there. Hmm. Danger. It might fall. There's like shit might start just falling from the roof.

What a great build. And the grass is dogshed in there too. Yeah, it's not great. How do you have bad grass in Arizona? You got all the sun and what you do? You got a roof. You can put shade when you want it. Come on.

Get a better grass guy, D-backs. Come on guys. Let me get on the road, though. Who are, D? Texas, Arizona. I don't know. I have no emotions, but I, they've actually been playing

entertaining ball and you've got lots of form of Blue Jays on those sides. It's the World Series. If it's close and every pitch matters, it's still hard to turn away. That Shurs are in there. People are crushing Atkins, though. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I mean, if you did Lutus Guerrille Jr. One for one with Varsho, a lot of people, we're upset with that. And I think that's ignoring the great defense varshal plays, but offensively is not close. And then you add the top prospect in baseball that you had.

Oh, we got Kirk and Janssen. Don't need it. Right, but you don't throw away. Don't throw in Adam Fox to get a deal done that doesn't need Adam Fox thrown in. You don't know if that's true. I'm just comparing that, you know, a really good young player, highly coveted, touted.

Not a throw-in piece. You never know what it was going to turn out to be. You know what, though? I do look forward to hearing from Ross Atkins. As maybe he can, you know, explain and talk about it because there's nothing quite as scintillating as Ross Atkins chatting to fans by way. And I mean, look, what have we accomplished in our lives? He's cured insomnia. That's impressive.

That is a punch me in the face. Let's move. Calvary FC. They got a big game this weekend. Saturday. Stinktown. The hammer. Let's go.

Is it going to be nice weather, Rhett? Beautiful. Beautiful. Just beautiful. Okay. So let's go. I think we got a Tommy Poundland. piece first. So this is Tommy Willden Jr. tweeting after the big win.

Tommy's peace. Uh, careful. Tommy's father. Tommy Wilden's senior because he is junior. That's a picture on the left of them when Tommy's a young man. His old Papa was coaching him. And then that's from last weekend after the winning over Pacific. There's dad cheering him on. Tommy, are you bringing dad to Hamilton for the league final? No, I sent him home to England. We lost last time he was at the final. He surprised Tommy. It was kind of a nice thing. I saw the video. surprised the boy. Tommy Jr. had no idea that dad was coming. He didn't dress up just for his dad. You tell me he always dresses that nice? Yeah, 100% he does. That's what we tell you every week.

Do you have that picture? How hard would it be to go into my folder and find that? There's a picture of Tommy. Tommy with the dish. Oh, the plate. He's screaming and yelling. Did you delete it? No. It's in there? Yeah. Go take a quick peek. And while we're doing that. It's a great photo. It is a Saturday game. There are viewing parties at the ship and Kildare's Ale House in the south, which is really close to Spruce Meadows, Zachofield. Ship, and Rhett could be in the hammer if he wants to to support Tommy. Did he really send his dad home? Dad, he's a dad.

You were at the last final we lost. Can't do that again. Dad, it's so great to see you. Don't be a jinxy path. That's what happened to guess. The flames in game seven in Tampa Bay, my brother showed up. All the dads. You're going to have to be.

Too many, Trev, too many. Trev, too many. Too many. You got a pitcher here? What do we got? So there's the bracket. So this is not the final. This is the messy tournament

where we're bringing them to Atco Field. Remember that? 27 teams. That'll be finalized by mid-December. Calvary is one of those teams. We've got to fill the rest of that bracket. I just want to make sure they did the bracket correctly. They did.

Yeah, they looked different than the CFL. All the branches. Yeah, funny you brought that up, Rhett. Let's go to the CFL. So we'll start with this year, what we talked about yesterday, if you don't mind, Jack. So yesterday we showed you the

bracket that the CFL threw up on social media. And they don't really seem to understand how a bracket works, which is odd because, again, we do this with my five, six, seven, and now eight-year-olds every year. Because it's fun and they like keep track of tournaments. They always have the bracket. You got the bracket up right next to the Poutine

place, next to the curling and the bowling and the in the rink. And so this is two years ago this was going to happen. And so they had put the team's play show and then go to an empty box. Like, you screwed up the bracket last year. It happens once. No worries. This year you'll get it right. And then this year they did

this, which was, oh, so the teams go to the empty box. Got it. We'll put the teams in the empty box. That makes sense. Good. Awesome. No problems here. We can totally nail that. Not both teams. One of them's got to go to the empty box. Just stop. Who is doing this? Stop what you do. Who? You've had brackets since the 1800s in this. League. Why are you making this hard? Come on. Imagine if there were more teams.

Good Lord. They'd have lines all over the place. It's to look like a word search. If you're, if don't put this on your resume, if you're wanting to get a job with the March madness or anything like that. The World Cup bracket,

the hockey bracket, the NBA bracket. My damn kid should be working to the league office. What is it? Some billionaire's kid. This is idiotic. Holy shit. Anyway, Stan Peters, meaningless game this week. Look forward to that at home, fan fest.

And then they had to BC for the West Semifinal. There's the photo. Look at it. There's Tommy. Everybody. Look at how jacked he is. I got a plate. I got a bunch of players behind me. We're the winners.

That's the shield, baby. That's what they got into the messy turnouts. Look at it. He's just pumped. People are more confused about the C.L. Playoffs than they've ever been. It's really simple. There's three on each side and then, you know, the first place team gets a buy.

Somehow we've confused everyone on how the CFO playoffs works. Yes. Okay, finally, lots of kickers today. Watt, have you golfed in Vegas since the sphere has been erected? No. Here's what it looks like. Time for golf when I go to the course by the win. The wins at that end of the strip.

You liked it. All right. He doesn't like it at all. So I don't know if they're messing with them. I don't know if this AI dean, but that sphere is huge and dominates the skyline in some parts. I really do want to see it. Yeah. We should go.

If the Flames played games in Vegas, we could organize something like that. I know. Once they get a team there. Actually, they are there right around the... Vegas has a team in the NHL? Holy shit. On that January trip, there's a... Go, he-hoo.

ESPN, love when they get the ads going for SportsCenter. They're big back into the NHL. Their second season, I believe, and the new broadcast deals off the border. They had the frozen frenzy yesterday. Here's one of the ads they're running. I thought it was quite good. Ryan, you did not get that.

Oh, very good. No ads. We don't do ads. Shoot me in the face. I sent that to twice. Or I didn't. We'll move. There's people that like to go viral by doing dumb things in their backyards.

We love it. This is one of them. And while, hey, if you're going to do this to yourself, we'll help you go viral. So he's on a picnic table of some sort. I hope you like it. Whoop, whoop. It takes his shirt off. That's collarbone, I think.

That's ribs. That's ribs. That's ribs. That's your liver. He is standing on a platform of sorts. A platform. Let's just pretend it's a picnic table. It'll be easy for people that are just listening.

And he has a microwave that's sitting on the ground. And he jumps macho man Randy Savage-esque dropping an elbow. But his entire torso, the side of his torso, lands on top of the microwave. Which is a metal box. It's a metal box. He's learning really quickly here. That's definitely ribbage. That's me on the sidewalk after the...

Yeah, that's me walking my dog. Well, enjoy going viral, bud. We're worth it for sure. We're here to help. It's like, I was on Barnburner? Worth it. I'd do it again. Now, remember when you were in the stands

dancing around to music and stuff? Yeah, I do. We've seen you in a few different ranks. I don't even know if this is an old one or not because you've been so good at this. But I just thought, Vegas, great start of the season. Let's go back, doodoo, doodoo, when Dean really got the night's hot. This is, I think that their season opener.

So good on you. It's mony, monie. I can't help myself. I know, this. You know the moves, Dean. My denim shirt on. I'm all tucked in. Watch this slide here.

Woo! Haven't lost the game since, you know. They have you to think. It's good vibes in that rink. People love showing up to work ever since you started dancing there. Yeah, see, I was lying to you when I said I hadn't been to Vegas trying to cover that up. Yeah, right. Thanks for blowing my cover.

I think we have one more. Is that it? One more. Yeah, okay. We'll see what it is. It's got to be interesting if I put at the end, right? It's that ESP. Why parents shouldn't use VR?

That's the shoveler. Yeah, Flip her. That's a tough loss at the Warner House threat. Yeah, the old fair fish is down and out now. So she's wearing a VR headset and is playing baseball. She's a bat. And swings the bat and smashes the glass out of their aquarium. And then the fish and all the ornaments and the gross water that's now soaked up in the carpet.

It would smell good, right? No, no, sir. I think she meant to. Is that AI, Dean? I don't think it's AI, but do you think it was on purpose? Porpoise? If that was on porpoise, you better not own that house. I don't want to live with that smell.

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So you're saying fooey. You're calling fooey on that. You're saying that this is somebody trying, they took a video to try and get to. She released, she released the bad. And why are you filming the bottom of a stairwell and a basement next to it?

It's weird. With a camera spot, it doesn't seem like a spot for a security camera. Now that guy jumping onto the microwave. That's the kind of tenacity. You want to see how to Huberdao, huh? Yes. Give me some of that.

It's the, who are they playing? Give me some of that LTIR midsection laceration. Oh. Oh. Does I have an oddly wide shoulder right now? Yeah, that's a weird look there. Is that in or out of its socket? Well, your arms look normal at the best of times.

Thanks, buddy. Doesn't seem nice. Remember there was that news clip of the female news reporter that was squashing the grapes. She was in the big vat and stepping on the grapes and then slipped and fell right over the side, A over T kettle, and then was laying on the grass. She had some awful. Jack, can you get that first place? Yeah, if you could and get her on the phone as well.

On the grapes. You could get that going. One NHL game tonight? One. Devils, caps. Who's that one win, the Capitals? I forgot already. It's when Ovi had 14 shots.

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That's DoorDash coming through for you. So tonight, we're going to do some DoorDash, need to know what's on the menu with DoorDash. Okay, retro, here it is. And I'll tell you what's on the menu, and you got to tell me whether you're in or out, because every year we ask you this question. Raptors kick off their season. They're hosting the Minnesota Timberwolves. That's correct.

favored by a point and a half, 530 tip off. You part of the North threat this year? No. They got no. Oh, that was way too quick. You're just on the other side of the lake. No.

It's the closest NBA team to you. It's got to be. They stink, don't they? Who's their coach? I can't pronounce his name. Sounds like Pagesostoyakovic, but with more more consonants and less vowels. Watch your mouth. Hmm.

Grady Dick, the rookie. Siakum, walk here. Ogeena and Obie. I got some players still. Still, he suits. Poodle. Jacob Poodle. He's not part of the North this year.

So what else? Because this is, I mean, now. Okay. That's 530. You don't want to watch the Raptors? That's your thing. You're hooping the harm? Dish her in a dime?

Or you could watch the struggling, Washington Capitals, with their lone win in the season, taking on The exciting New Jersey Dallas. My old coach, Lindy, Ruff, thank you. Please. Yes. All right.

Yeah. Rough enough. Favor. Minus 240 are the Devils? Oh, they're at home hosting the caps. 530 start as well. Take your pick, Rhett, and tell us what you're ordering on DoorDash. There you go.

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Chicken bar. Oh, that's a good call. Makes it look easy. I'm actually going to steal one of the kids chicken farms from the rink here today. So, chicken parm. How do you do that? Do you have a kid that you pick on or is it the worst player? No, there's a kid that's sick and that's not going to show up. We've ordered food, pre-ordered

food, so I'm just going to take it. Yeah. So is this just a regular practice day what's the feeding kids geez this is getting fancy oh it's big the school program yeah yeah does they even feed you in the NHL when you made the Panthers no

half a cold cut assorted and a bag of salt and vins ooh S&Bs underrated but again Miss Vickies I don't know I think they'd be lays down yeah probably be lays down there that's what Messier told us

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Washington as I mentioned they have not been very good. They are in a bad way. Minus 105 for the Devils to win by two or more. Minus one and a half for the Devils. I'm going to take that. Jack Hughes. You may not know this.

He leads the National Hockey League in scoring. We do do that. And he had four points again last night. And he has been a host on a blaze to start the season. Were you aware of that retro? Because I maybe wasn't until I. I thought I heard to break cats name when he lit up the flames. Well, that was goals.

Lots of goals. Jack Hughes, five games, four goals, ten helpers. 15 and five, if you need it. So I'm going to, against these struggling capitals, I'm going to say that old Jack Hughes gets two or more points, two or more points for Jack plus 110. I like being on the plus side for a two point night for a guy that is absolutely rolling. So those are my bets of the day. Okay, I am going, you think that's bold on Jack Hughes? I'm going to take a three-point day that pays plus 300.

You already has multiple four-point games this season. And oh dear, it hasn't been great for the caps. Devils are at home. Why not? I'm also getting a little bit sexy with Aljovets. Can remember we went back-to-back games with no shots? 14 shots on net against Toronto yesterday. Five shots on net against Montreal on the weekend.

That after two games with zero shots in each, the first time I believe in his career, he went back-to-back games without a shot. He's bounced back in a big way. I'm taking over three and a half shots. That pays minus 125. He's going to start because he's just going to start shooting from everywhere. Oh, 14 the other night.

Like that's, there would be 99% of the league would never have a single game. They had 14 and he's doing in his late 30s after people said he's no good anymore. I think we see the pushback from over here. Come on, Ovi. Let's go, buddy. Do we want him to break the record? Oh, hell yeah.

Do you see him party with the cup? Come on now. Yeah, do you all love this guy? I'm a traditionalist. I feel like Wayne's got enough records, you know? Seriously, at what, 56 when he retired? I feel like, can you live with 54? Wayne has enough records.

And to me, Ovi is the more exciting goal scorer than Wayne was. Well, and he played in a way harder era. Did you see the blippin goalies when he was playing in the 80s? Oh, don't do that. I mean, come on now. Of course it was, but soft wristers from the blue line. Go grab a, go grab a Yofa stick and see if you can shoot a fuck. Go grab a Titan.

That's a valid point. When you think greatest goal score of all time, I do think Ovi. I hope he gets it. Wait. You guys going to fight again? No, we're going. Love them. I'll fight.

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Hopefully your medulla album got it will be nice and marinated. Better than... Yes, my... Dula. I've started. Ablangata? Yeah, that. I'm just going to save something, but I can't.

Bruntal, cortal. You can't because you're getting trouble? On the internet? We're on the internet. I know. We can swear on everything. I caught myself because the person would listen to this and I'm not going to do it. Really? Chevlerina. Hey, you know who's, you know whose birthday it is today? You say it's your birthday?

Da-na-na-na-na-da-da-da. Yesterday's was Clark Will. It was Clark Will. film and Jim Poplinski and Mark Smith, former flame. It was a bunch of guys. And Derek Newman. And Derek Newman, whoever the hell that is. I don't know who it is.

Nice, Dean. A couple Sasker's retro. Come on. I'll give you a hint on the first one. This will give it, you're ready for it? Calvington, Saskatchewan. Kelmington. Killer?

No, uh, Wendell? Wendell Clark, having a birthday today. Oh, yeah. How old's Wendell? I don't know. And the second one. 50s, older 90. A buddy of yours.

Also a very tough customer from Saskatchewan. One o'clock? That I don't know. What era? Just a little before your era was part of those tough St. Louis Blues teams. Not Tony Twis? It's Chasers' birthday today. Didn't you see him in Nashville recently?

Yes, the fat Kenny Rogers. Oh. that's what the birthday referred to him as it was so good a fat Kenny Rogers now is that a fair assessment not a skinny I like that we've taken runs at

very tough people from a hundred million miles away oh yeah that Rob Ray he's got a head like a mascot is he in the room right now didn't think so Yeah, Kelly Chase's having a birthday today. Because you were buddies and then he hated you

and now your buddies again. I think we're on demand. I think we're, yeah. Yeah, you guys are good now, right? We're back, baby. Like if you were to text, uh, text me, uh, you'd be good, right? I'm going to text.

Happy birthday, Chaser. It'd be funny if I set retro up and it wasn't his birthday. That would be so good. Hey, happy birthday. What are you talking about? Just like Rhett did to Ray over the play-by-play game, the color with the flames. That'll do it for the program.

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Was Kenny Rogers fat? Like, was there a skinny Kenny Rogers? Like, if you just said he's a Kenny Rogers, because I feel like Kenney had some... Well, I know. Well, so what's, what's that make you think? He's got some heft. He's a bit of a chef, apparently, chaser, like a. Appreciate it.

Well, Kenny Rogers is making that chicken, right? Kenny Rogers Roasters. For a while he was, yeah. Sure he was. Kramer loved it. Yeah, he did. He loved it. He did.

It was weird. It was a neon light sign, though, that was coming in his window? That's right, yeah. Was that, Roger? Thinking about fried chicken today. It's so good. So good. Hey, you want to know something?

Yes. You will appreciate this. You know where I live? You know what opened about a three-minute drive from my house? Come on. Do not. Cluck and Cleaver. Shut your mouth.

Yes, sir. That's what I was thinking about. I thought you were going to say something from Louisiana. It was a Starbucks. It moved to another location. Excellent. It's still there. And then all of us, I remember, because the thing came up,

coming soon, clocking, there's this, somebody, is somebody, am I being punked right now? Does somebody have a camera on me watching to see him? Because I'm going to start dancing. I'm going to wet my pants. Like I'm, this is a joke, right? Somebody is pranking me.

Nope. The signs have gone up and there is a fucking cleaver in my neighborhood. I don't know what I'm going to do. It's not going to, well, it's right there every day. Every day you're going to drive by. that best. Every day. I'm going to have to stay home more. I'm 13 blocks from one. My goodness gracious.

Oh, and speaking of Kramer, this is another stupid thing. I don't think it makes me old. I think it just makes me dumb. I'm going to buy a meat slicer. I got one. Do you? Oh, my God. Yeah, Kelly slicer, absolutely. I don't, I've never really thought about it. Are you dealing with very, very large cuts of high-end meats?

Yes. You are. You need a meat. But here's the thing with the crazy prices that you're spending right now. You can buy it. It just makes sense. Don't buy your deli meat. It's all processed and shit. You can go buy the quality meat and then slice it up yourself. Big cats, buy volume.

All right. And tons of fun. It is, right? Watch your fingers, eh? Why don't you go borrow mine? All right. You got a shovel of a walk to get in, but yeah. It's just sitting there?

I mean, you didn't take it with you to Buffalo? It's yours to use. Christmas came early, Dean. A great day. We started off with shitty flames game. Now, look at me. Cluck and Cleaver, Daly Slacer. Best day ever.

Ha! Have a great day, everybody. I'm not shoveling your driveway, though. Come on. You're getting them.