Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Weekend Recap + Seravalli Joins The Show | FN Barn Burner - October 23rd, 2023

Episode Date: October 23, 2023

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How are we doing, everybody? Welcome to another week, another edition of Barnburner. It is Boomer and Pender and Warner here on a glorious Monday. The final week of October, in a week from now, it'll be November, if you can believe it. I mean, not really, but close, yes. Are we excited for November? Are we pumped for it? Ah, we're getting some winter, aren't we?

Yeah, sure. That ever happens in November, so, yeah, let's do it. Let's go. Let's get it going. Let's just get that. there. Busy show today, Frank Sarah Valley. I believe now, in fairness, I have not touched base. What is the nature of touching base with Frank? Is it just, if something's not going to go, do you need to talk to him? Or is it every week we need to clarify that he is coming on?

That's what I feel we're at. And now he's started his other show. You want to just roll the dice? See if he shows up? I'd like to have him. I can tell you this. He will or he won't. be on today's show. Thank you, Red. There's one. There you have it.

I heard it here. Frank Sierra Valley, you're going to be on the show today. I'm going to go with that. A huge Pinda report I've been warned. I've been bracing for a Pinda report of the ages coming out.

You know what it is? It's just there's a lot of time that passes between Friday's show and this morning. And I don't think I put much in there, but it's three days of me dumping stupid shit into Jack's lap. And he's archiving it all. And I got there today. I'm like, oh, my God.

we have like 10 idiotic kickers you're going to love it red looking forward to it always idiot kickers mike van der jats right idiot my drunk idiot kicker uh as well a little this day in history from a cloud law and you know what we're going to do we're going to uh it's kind of a salute it's a generous guy a generous guy out there for crown royal crown everything that's right the generous i love what you did with that bottle yeah it looks good eh i said to ret last night if there was a game that probably I needed to drink, it was last night's game. Appraised that's not half empty.

But then it won't look quite the same. But luckily, I do have another Crown Royal bottle down. There's always some in the, some stashed away somewhere. Well, we'll get to it. The flames wrap up their road trip in Detroit yesterday. The road trip that finishes one, three, and one. Who had three points?

Did anyone pick three? Who? I can't remember if I said three. no you said six I said six and it was right there for the fellas it was right fucking there for them you got a two nothing lead in Washington

you got a Columbus team that we don't think's very good you didn't have to beat Detroit you didn't have to beat Pittsburgh I mean fuck and they didn't in fairness they didn't oh they sure didn't they didn't beat them in now looking back probably had to beat them if they wanted to get to five well it was you know what the nice thing about it is

It was a great new coach, some new staff members, early in the season, get on the road, do some bonding, come home with some victories and some stories. Get the, you know, let's get that ball rolling in the right direction. Yeah, and now that you've seen the crew, you can lock everyone up into long-term deals and ride this thing out into the sunset for the next eight years. Mm-hmm. Yeah. More on that coming up. Flames lose by a score of six to two in Detroit against the wings team that looked pretty good yesterday. They look really good all year, Dino. They looked our first up-close viewing of the Detroit Red Wings. It seems like there's some skeed and some spill and some care and some youth and finally some movements there.

That's what they've been missing. They've got some stuff. They've got some stuff there. They had a day yesterday against the Calgary Flames. It was one nothing on the first shot of the game, and then shortly after it was two nothing. And they just continued to roll. Alex De Brinkett seems like a fine addition for Stevie Y and the Red Wings.

What did they give up for him? Less than what Ottawa gave up from a year prior, Dean, considerably. Pierre Dorian makes hockey decisions. Guy can score. Still, yeah. It was almost like you were selling a 40-goal guy, not a 25-goal guy. Maybe a 50-goal guy, to be fair.

under the right circumstances, yeah. It looks like the right circumstances in Michigan. It's close to home and he's still scoring. Where do we want to start, man? Do we want to start with the goaltending? Do we want to start with the line combinations? Do we want to start with the defenseman? Goaltending.

It wasn't playing. It starts with gold ten. Everything starts with gold time. All right. You start with the crown? Like, honestly, this is quite the shit list we've got to get through today, isn't it? All those things. Where's the good news here?

Dan Vlodar. Oh. Hattiness. No, six on 30, including, as I mentioned, one on one and then two on five and so on. We wanted to see Bladar, so careful what you wish for, I guess.

Yeah. I did talk them in the Buffalo game, and I didn't like them last night. There's certain goals by Detroit, but some stops you need to have if you're hoping to have have a victory on the last game of your five game, 10-day road swing. Yeah, Marky was really good too, and he had a couple of days,

a day there in between. It felt like a natural for Vladar to get into one of the two back-to-backs, and the other natural spot felt like Washington, but sounded like he wasn't quite a hundred, whether it was a stomach bug or something. There's some sniffles going around. Yeah, and so that changes your plans, but damn it, the more you felt like you needed that Detroit game, I thought the more you'd see Markstrom go. Well, we talked about this last night. Then you just fall into that same trap of, well, he's our better goaltender.

We better play him more and play him all the time. Yeah. We got a win. We need a win here. We can't afford to put in our backup and maybe lose one here. So you start Markstrom. And then when Marksum's playing really well, well, you can't take him out of the net because he's playing so well. So you start Markstrom.

Anyway, Dan Vladar, I feel like we're treading into Yoni oratorio territory. Can't lose this guy. This guy's great. The league, everybody would love teams would be jumping all over, all over this guy. And then eventually you put him away. Orio? Well, what do we, I mean, the point I'm making is Flames fans and we pump him up as this goaltender, Tampa Bay would love to have this guy.

LA should be trading for this guy. This guy, it's a value contract. This guy's good. Is he? Not for two games, but there's a bigger sample than that. I think what people like the sample where he's being. Not huge. Here's what I'll say.

A lot of tools that teams like, there's a lot of similarities to what he is and what we've seen with guys like Samsonov and Vanichek where they're kind of just mad guys and show up in other situations and play really well. They gave up a third for him. They've had really attractive offers for him over the last couple of years,

not this summer when the market collapsed a bit. And the numbers aren't great, which is weird because the appeal for his skills is great, but the data is not. Nothing about his numbers in Calgary. he's great, but he's the type of goalie guy's dream on because he's huge and when he looks good, he looks really good. It's just, it doesn't look at this year. So there's a lot of, so if I dress, if I put a suit on, I look sharp, but I'm still stupid. No, I just mean like the whole 666,

67, like when he is locked in, you're like, Jesus, this guy looks. You remember the first two months of his first season here? Yeah. And it was like, wow, that, this is something here. And then they couldn't play him because they needed wins. I also remember the Calgary Tower. He was tall. Yeah, but I just don't want to put him in the same categories like this because those guys never really even became any so backups, right? Yeah. Starting to wonder.

I'm just, I mean, the point I'm making is maybe it's possible that we built him up to be potentially more than he is. It's not been a very good start for sure to the season. Yeah. And no one's going to fight you on that, you know, it hasn't been a good two games. No,

tell me about the lateral chances the Flens are along defensively. How about switching to a new D system? How's that going, fellas? Because Markstrom's been spectacular and his numbers are still no good. So that tells me the environment's dog shit. I thought that we said last year the D was okay.

I thought, I thought this D core, this was to dream on. Hey, man. I don't line this top four, but like tell me how that new system's going. guys are left open in front all the time. I mean, Christ.

You're seeing it with the Oilers, too. It's like, oh, Vegas won the cup. Let's do what they do. Maybe that's good for their personnel. Maybe that's how you coach. You get the system best for your personnel. I'm not saying that isn't for this group, but this is not a perfected defensive system,

clearly at this point. And I don't like, it, it, like, what are we, this defensive system? So are you seeing a drastic change? You're seeing a different. in how they're playing? I don't even mean what I'm seeing in terms of the

Chancellor, it's just that they went to change how they played and what defensive responsibilities were around the net and they look leakier than they did last year. So with the same personnel. You can tell me that they're implementing some new system. It looks the same to me.

It does not, I don't see anything revolutionary. I don't see anything that's drastically different. I see last year's group and yesterday without one of their best in Rasmus Anderson. which doesn't help, obviously. No, not at all. And again, like, boy, if you had Schillington, that wouldn't hurt, but you don't.

And there's no certainty that you'll ever see him again in a day or a month or a year. But I just wonder about, like, I guess it's a small tweak, but it's what the Oilers are doing. They don't look good defensively. It's the whole D-Men, don't follow your forward up to the point if he goes there. You've got a hand off of the centers. And it feels like a system that needs a lot of communication, cohesiveness. And Vegas has been working with it forever. Of course, it looked good when they won the.

up. Okay. Well, how long do we have to put up with not criticizing? I don't know. How long would it take you? I mean, you've played last week. Yeah. I mean, you'd think how many practices they had? How much did you go over in training camp? Like, are you in the NHL? They're all in the NHL. Come on. And these four groups against them definitely look like they're in the NHL. I, to me, sure. Okay. We're early on and we'll give Dar some time. It's only a small sample this year. Okay. He's going to get better.

The D is learning a new system. Okay. We'll give him some time. Defense is hard work and commitment to getting the job done. Like, it just is. And there's too many times where they're soft as puppy poo. And that's a lot of how they played last year. And my concern for all of it is the similarities between last year and this year are

staggeringly consistent. The biggest issue I see is that the two guys that they bet big on in the forward group have been two of their worst forwards and that's Hubert and Codry. And people are going to say, oh, that goal count and he's a point per game. Watch. He's a turnover machine. He's awful defensively.

He's not impactful. No, he's not a game breaker at all. And it's like not even the power play can run through him effectively. They went one for 19 on the man advantage on the road trip. Like any sort of like, and we'll get Frank on at some point because he was buying the bounce back big and it's early. But if you just look at the points, like, oh,

look, he's back. No, he ain't. He's the same unimpactful player that you've assigned way too much cap to for this year plus seven more. Jack, can you bring up, and before you play it, I just want if you can bring up this, because we have the second to brink it goal from yesterday, the one that made it, it was their fourth goal of the game. But before you play it, if you can just bring it up so we can establish who is on the ice here. And they did this a lot of. But this was not turnovers. It was turnovers at different parts of the trip. It was just either transition off turnovers or just them rushing the puck with skill and speed.

So let it go for a little bit. They're out of Howie Maker here. Let it go a little bit here. Now you can see there is Hubertow behind. So Hubert was just out of the screen, I believe, here. It's a stick you're seeing. There is. Yeah.

So this is Huberdow just about at the top of the circles, I believe here. So you can let it go. For those of you not listening. Yeah, I know it's playing. in the offense. Anyway, so here comes Huberto. He's in the middle of your screen. And then he's right beside De Brinket,

but what is he doing? Watching. Yeah, he doesn't think of his man. He seems to think there's three of us already. I don't need to back check. So now that we all seem to just, if you can play it one more time, you teach your kids that,

Brett. Look at him. He's at Center Ice and he hasn't taken, he does not take a stride. He's a pause there, hang on. Is he thinking there's three guys closer to my net than me already?

I'm the fourth man back, none of these are my responsibility, or is that just a cop out because you're close to that guy in the left wing? It's lazy and not committed to winning. I'd agree that, yeah. No strides. Still hasn't taken stride. He didn't even look. He stared at the puck the whole time.

He didn't, like. From center ice, he stopped skating. Where's the last stride? Where is the front of the logo? That's, this is a $10 million player. I mean, no. Take that away. This is one of your talk.

This is a very. veteran. And I said it yesterday. I don't want to, well, I try to be fair. And then he turned the puck over on the third goal that the brinkets. He turns it over all night. He's a turnover machine. Listen, different guys are held to different standards for different areas of the ice, let's say. You can only be allowed to play that way if you're outstanding on the power play and a threat to score every time you're on the ice. Drysidal can do that and he has for many seasons. Exactly. No one else could, without. that production can do it. I'm sorry. It's right. So I don't like it anyway because I think everyone should try to play the same standard, but you can get away with being soft in your D zone. If you're an absolute monster offensively, you're not. And I think when you watch some of these other teams with their high-end skill, they're all impactful and make a difference.

in a game to game basis, period to period. They get out there and they're a threat, and we don't have that. There's no top end on this team, fellas. If you need a goal, like who can you write down an ink for 30? Nobody. No one. Like 25 even? Who's a guarantee for 25?

The guy who has six NHL games under his belt is your biggest scoring threat. And the guy's center of your fourth lines. I'll play your $17.5 million dollar double down combo. the fourth line gave you the most yesterday. If you're confused with like, oh, geez,

Sharon Gova's much for playing well. He's, like he's in the same box as Cadre and Huberto right now and that is not a good luck for those two guys. That line, they shuffled the lines up.

You come off of a loss. And Cadry, Huberto and Dubet were put together, each of them finishing minus four. For those of you that care about plus minus, some of you don't. But when it's minus four,

You better care. It's telling you a little bit of something. Yeah, we got better stats and plus minus in the Pinder report, and it's the same story. It's, uh, what one of the things that Daryl did last year is he put these cats together because they both seem to almost just drag down the line they're on. They're not making people better around them.

It's even worse. It's like, it's to the detriment of the people will play with them. So Daryl's like, all right, I'm putting these assholes together. And like Huska's already there. We're a weekend.

Like we're, sorry, we're seven games in, six years in. It's interesting you bring up the coaches because I brought up the boom last night on after burner. Where's Huska's head and hear me out? New coach, all positive.

We're going to have fun. We're changing the mood. The dark cloud has left the building. We are a positive group and we want to hear the player's voices and we want to have their, take their import and use it to our advantage and make them feel blah, blah, blah. Huska knows he can't be a hard ass because that's what they just got rid of and quit on. Now what? Like,

when's Huska get to a point where it's like, well, I got to bring the hammer down. I have to let him know it's not acceptable. How do you, and then all of a sudden, oh, Mr. Negative? I can't play for this guy. He's too negative.

He's not. Huska is now in a shitty spot. And I don't know what he's going to do about it. Well, to be fair, it's the first time head coach. It's a first time NHL GM. It's a first time NHL guy running a power play that went at 10% on the road trip. Like there's not a lot of job experience you can lean on that's similar to this.

We like all these people. We want them to do well, but what can they lean on at this point? It's tough. Yeah. If you're a rookie head coach, how do you finesse this? I know they're, I believe they're practicing today. This is not an off day for the team. It's get to the rink.

and we need to get some, we've got to get some work in. Because you play tomorrow, 745 weird start against the Rangers. It's the 32 teams and one day, you know, red zone thing. So it's a 740 start. Sorry, go ahead. And then the, the oil. So you've got three games coming up this week, not a lot of time to get any work done. And they look like a team that needs a lot of work.

They need to work on some things for sure. It definitely looks like a team that needs to practice. And again, like even if you do practice and, play well with great systems and you get good goaltending, it's two, two and the third. Like, who can you look at and be like, that's the line that's going to go out and score me a winner? Yeah, Power plays to do that in Washington.

Power play was dog shit, the whole road trip. I'm sorry. One for 18. One for 19. And again, with the defensive scheme changing and with savvy coming in and probably trying different stuff on the power play, and it's early in the season, we have

so many built-in excuses, except that all these effing guys are NHL players that have played the game at the NHL level, pretty much all of them. Who? Coronado? It's the only one that. Right? Like, so, oh, wow, tough road trip early

in the year. It's hard to get some. What are you talking about? Not a tough road trip. Sorry. No, easy road trip. Two of your five teams played the day before you played them, and you were arrested. Detroit was playing the second half of back to back. Pittsburgh was playing back, second half of back to back. You blow leads in two of them,

including against that team in the third period that played the night before, and including two nothing in Washington where you played keep away and couldn't get to lead. Your power play was dreadful. Your penalty kills good, but it feels like smoking mirrors because guys are missing empty nets, goaltenders are making great saves, and guys are blocking shots like crazy. Like,

I'm sorry, if they keep penalty killing like this, it ain't the best penalty kill in the league. And like you said, they played two fucking backups on the road trip. It wasn't even like you got everyone's best. And none of these teams made the playoffs last year. Maybe one, your penalty kill. I guess teams like Columbus or whoever.

You weren't playing the elite. And you're going to have to at some point. I believe that's how the schedule works. There's going to have a road trip where they have all playoff teams, Dean. This was none from last year. So I said this to Rett last night. Everything turns around. They're going to play some good hockey.

They're going to go on some good stretches here. Yeah. How does it start? Is it just simply, you know, Markstrom has to steal? Well, no matter how bad. All teams do. all teams find a way to play better. Even the worst teams end up with, what, 70 some points?

Yeah, there's lots of wins for bad teams out there. So I'll tell you what it does, though. When do you do this? Was it five games, 10 games, 15? I don't know where you started to do your assessment, but through five games, it doesn't feel like a playoff team. Yeah, they're one game under. It's just that it started with a win,

and that was a long time ago. And the other win, Buffalo gave you one. And so it doesn't, it's not an inspiring star. Winnipeg was their best game in a weird way. And they got outclassed in that game. And going back to your Huberto, well, he's almost a point of game, the eye test. We need, no. There has to be some eye test, right?

Well, the only test that he looks okay by is if you just look at counting stats. And I'm not talking to just Huberto. I'm talking to team as far as making the playoffs. Where's the eye test that says, oh, yeah, I see it. It's just bubbling under the surface, couple bad bounces, a couple of unlucky. You know what I mean? Like they're not passing the stink test. for me. To me, if there's one thing that turns it around, Dean, it's, you got to sort out

your own zone. Like, they're just given the puck away all night. Like, if you could be a stout defensive club, I could see it with Markstrom. And maybe you're the Islanders and you don't have an offensive guy, but you do it by committee. But if you're going to be loose defensively, you're screwed. I just don't see the buy-in. You're right. I'm not, I don't think you're wrong in your assessment and what it's going to happen. That's how in my opinion. Yeah. I just don't see the buy-in.

And you would have thought that with all the changes over this, you know, the management changes, specifically in the coaching, that all of this bullshit that we heard over, oh, we're pumped. This is going to be great.

Happiest team. That it should be obvious that there's buy-in on this. And I, is it? Not for me. I don't see buy-in defensively. Whether it's a new scheme or not, shoot that.

Anyway, I've down the negative train we go. Well, and look, if you find a way to get two points against the Rangers tomorrow night, we'll be talking very glibly about the soccer club on Wednesday because the Rangers are legit. The Rangers have one of the best goalies in the league who happens to be bad against Calgary for whatever reason. It's just Durkin. The Rangers are deep. And that would be equality to points.

But like, they're going to be huge dogs in that game. Yes. And rightfully so. So if you go ahead and win that, yeah, we'll come in and talk glowingly. about you. This isn't us saying that, you know, like drop the axe, the season's over. It's just what you've shown us through six games is an incredibly mediocre body of work here, fellas. Yes, no question. And the thing of it is, like you said, that game against Winnipeg, Markstrom, in a way, stole them two points. He was terrific.

Again, early against what, Pittsburgh. He was really good. Yeah. And you look at, you look at the road trip. If you take, now, they did. So I don't want to put, Buffalo. Goley wasn't great. They scored four in that Buffalo game. Scored five. They only counted four. Two against Pittsburgh. Outside of that, two against Pittsburgh, two against Washington, one in Columbus and two in Detroit. Two goals a night.

It would also be interesting, Dean, because you're right. It's low scoring. It would be interesting to see how those goals are being scored. Like, against or four? Four. How are we scoring? Like, is it muck? I think it's muck. I think a lot of it's around the net rebounds.

And I'm not criticizing it. But I'm just saying you can't sell that there's high end talent if you're not seeing high end skill plays. And we are. It's like he saw Detroit make some real nice plays last night. That's right. And it's fine. I'm just saying if you went back and searched out all the goals they scored, how many are, well,

man, what a nice goal that is. Coronado's power play goal in the first game of the road trip probably ends the road trip is the nice of school. Probably does. Zips it like, sing, shelf, power play. Sharon Govich wires that one yesterday, but you feel like that's probably far enough out,

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minus 185? I was a little late joining the show. I wasn't planning on going this afternoon this evening, 5 p.m. first pitch. My old man just rung me up on the phone. He said, hey, I got two tickets. How good is that? Elite, elite. Salvatory.

What's that? That didn't go with your wife or no. That was actually pretty fun. Okay. A few parking lot beverages. I brought some shooters. It was good. Yeah, of course.

You guys. I don't know if it's a thing there in Canada. Do you guys have Rumpelmans? No. Do a couple Rumbleman's shots, a little, taste like mouthwash on the way in. It's cool. Oh, it's good.

Yeah. I can see why it'd be popular. That sounds really good. It's actually, it's actually ever clear. So it's great. Oh, good for you then. Oh, it's so good.

Yeah. You only need like two gallons of milk thistle after. We are, you know, things are not as well as you. You know, it's bad when everyone is, speechless after you say that. Yeah, no, that's good. It's good. No, things are great in Philly. The football team, I don't know what the hockey team is doing, but the football team looks good, big win, baseball. It not as, not as rosy here. Now, the stampeters did get a big win on the

weekend, but the flames return home. They return home from a road trip on which they went one, three and one against predominantly non-playoff teams. They were beaten by Columbus. They were beaten by Detroit. Now, those are two different things. I kind of think Detroit's got something in the works there, but they look a little bit lost. This has not been a flip-the-switch transition for the new coach, the new GM, this new team.

Now only when you look at the roster, it's much the same. So maybe we're foolish to think that the results were going to be much the same because we sit here lamenting the lack of scoring, too many scoring chances. Dan Vladar was not very good yesterday, and it feels like it's getting late early

here in Calgary, Frankie. boy. Yeah, and that's not even what they're saying in Edmonton, which, you know, I was curious. I didn't really connect the dot on this until you had mentioned one three and one. And I realized that the Oilers are one three and one overall this season. Rhett, I'm curious your take on this. Is there any chance that both of these teams pretty dramatically changing what their defensive zone play looks like could have any, correlation or impact on what this start has looked like, or do you think in this case it's unrelated?

It could be related. The problem is for me, defense comes down to just working your ass off a lot of times. And I just, I know they've all talked that, oh, we're using a different system. I don't notice what the different system is. If you don't back check hard, is that, is that a system related issue? if you're too blind to take a guy in front of the net, is that a systems related issue or is that just poor defensive play? I don't cut, wow, because I took maybe too much pride on the defensive side of things,

I don't cut a lot of slack for guys or teams that don't play well defensively, because again, I think it's less about systems and more about effort. So has the effort been lacking in your mind to this point? I said it 5, 10, 15 minutes ago last night. They're not passing the smell test for me, Frankie. You can watch and, you know, you can squint and say, well, this, maybe if this changes or this changes early road trips, they don't get started off.

It's like, well, this is a veteran team. They've been on road trips before. This isn't a bunch of kids that are going into new arenas and kind of awed by the moment, right these are this is a group of guys that got rid of the dark cloud that was apparently holding them back and have yet to impress me other than i think the first period against washington they were phenomenal but there's been the odd period where they've been fine but for most of the season it's been very reminiscent of last year's play dis not engaged not bought in and not winning a at all costs.

They're the easy way out. Probably not a good sign because we talked, well, I was going to say we talked about how last year, everything that could go wrong did. And it was like, well, if you just got some buy-in commitment and effort,

you could make up those three points right there. And there have been other sort of bright spots to start this year, things that you didn't really have last year, you know, Markstrom has been a little bit better, for instance, things like that you think would take care of some of the ills that this team experienced and you're just not really getting right now. The worst, Frank, is that you were betting on bouncebacks from Cadre and Eubedo

and they look as bad or worse than last year in many instances. I don't know that Cadry can be effective anymore. Like, it's just, it's 33. And Euberto has turned over the puck like crazy and was never good defensively. and is playing soft. It's the same. There's points there, but they're pretty hollow. Is it all hollow, though?

Like, because I watched Hubertoe last week, uh, I guess it would be to start the trip in Pittsburgh. And it looked like he had maybe his best game as a flame. Uh, he's trying to pass the puck on an empty net. It hits the goal and goes in. And then he has three turnovers in the first two minutes of that game where he does score the opener.

I didn't like it. Okay. And I know you've got 32 teams the follow. And this is sort of the micro of overreacting to every team. But there looks nothing to be different about his game at this point. And they've already taken them away from Lindholm and put them back with Codry, which is where Darrell had him. Because it seems like neither of those guys are going to be game breakers.

You may as well put them on their own line if they can't give Lynnholm someone who might work better with them. Right. And try and spread it around. Well, look, I mean, they're not game breakers. So get them off the line that's supposed to be your top line. It ain't that. Look, the bottom line is when you're paying those guys to be that game breaker and you're not, it's not going to end well for you.

That's just look at your cap table and doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell you that. It's like I keep trying to think, how do you get out of this if you're Connie? Because I think there's a lot of pressure to be competitive in the short term. There doesn't seem to be an appetite for like a five-year plan or a rebuild, at least at this juncture. the only way I can see it is they're actually going to be spending on these two guys less than the stars have been spending on Segan and Ben for a while. And I keep coming back to that. The problem is that there's no Robertson Hince Heisken in here.

Yeah, and that's a pretty big problem. You throw in an Ottinger there too, and it's a heck of a young core to have sort of transition out from your, you know, your Ben Sagan era. look, I think it's, it's still early. I don't want to, you know, sound like I'm, you know, too easy on the flames as a greater to start the year. I understand that you look at this road trip and you say, look, not really a lot of playoff teams that you're running into to start the year. Some of them have improved.

I'm not making excuses. I'm just, we're six games in and the flames have played exactly one home game. Like, before we just, before we just. draw any lines that, you know, are in Sharpie, let's, let's make sure we know what we're talking about. Yeah. And you know what? If it wasn't so, if it wasn't so eerily reminiscent of a year ago, I think the tone would be different. Totally. Because it looks, it just looks so similar. The one thing I'll, I'll say, Markstrom has been better. And Andrew Mandrapan, he gets another goal yesterday, one way or than the other, he's scoring, he's, he's looking like a guy who's,

who's prepared to bounce back. But outside of that, it does look like this is going to be a, a goal. challenged hockey club that's giving up a little bit too much. And they started a stretch without Rasmus Anderson four games for his hit against Patrick Line. Your thoughts, I guess on the hit, I think we could probably all agree what the hit is, but on the four game sentence that was given to Anderson, which he is appealing. I think it was totally warranted. I think you look at the hit and there's so many different layers of it that I don't like. I don't like the angle that he goes in. I don't like the speed with which he goes in, leaving his feet. I don't like the principal point of contact.

And I think more than all of that, I really don't like the situation. And Rhett's probably, you know, snickering going, oh, this is so soft in today's NHL. But down two goals late in the game. This is pure emotions get the best of you. And I'm going to take my frustration out on you. And that can't cut it anymore in today's NHL. You have to be smarter. you have to be more composed.

And if you think that this is maybe worth three games instead of four, I'd argue that we're splitting hairs. That's certainly what the Calgary Flames are going to argue. They're going to want him to be in the lineup for the Heritage Classic on Sunday, and I get it. I just feel like this hit pound for pound was worth every bit of four games. I doubt it would have gone much longer, but when I saw the ruling come down,

I just kind of like nodded. I was like, yep, that makes sense to me. So is this the dirtiest hit we've seen in a year and a half? Because this is the largest suspension handed up for a hit in a year and a half. I think. That's where I'm kind of like, I think I've seen this a lot in the last 20 years where it's one or two. And I don't disagree.

I think if it was the first period of the game, maybe they knock one off, but it's one second left. So he's not missing any time against Columbus. Well, yeah, I mean, that I don't, they saved, by the way, that that has nothing to do with it. The idea of like penalty served.

I disagree. I'm with you on that. I just think it was senseless. There was not much thought put into this other than I'm going to maim someone in the last, you know, minute of a game that's out of hand. And I, in saying that,

like, let's park the hit part for a second. The whole idea that you're going to appeal this and be successful when it's going to the commissioner. desk is like utterly absurd. I personally think that the flames are, are, and this is not necessarily on Calgary or the NHLPA or any, I think the process itself is broken. And I think they're hoping against hope that the commissioner is suddenly going to part ways

with his department of player safety that works for him and say, no, no, no, you guys screw this up big time. Your process is off. And I'm going to reduce it. by a game. I think that's a little bit far-fetched. Maybe if anything, you're the PA pointing out how silly it is that arbitration hearings will be appealed to the commissioner. This is like an NFL scenario. Like you gave this up in CBA and it probably looks dumb. Well, that's, that's an issue that you take up with the NHLPA directly. Like shame on the NHLPA for the

last time around in collective bargaining, not saying, hey, all all appeals immediately go to a neutral independent arbitrator. What, what's the harm in that? Not only that, but we're going to have some expediency. It's going to be within 24 hours the hearings held. And then another 24 hours after that, we're going to get a ruling on that appeal. Good, bad, and different, whatever it might be upheld or not, it's going to happen and it's going to happen quick. But now look at the timeline. Hit on Friday night. The suspension comes Saturday. Appeal comes Sunday. Already misses the first game due to suspension. Now you've got games Tuesday and Thursday. and the hearing is going to be held today,

and then the commissioner is going to rule on it. And who knows how long that'll take? Is it 24 hours? Is it 48? Is it, do we not know by Thursday? Whatever the case is. He's ruled on it already. Well, that's kind of my point is the fact that it's even going to him

tells you how broken the process is, let alone how long it takes to actually get there. It was a shitty hit and he should have been suspended and it is what it is. you leave it at that. But I don't, I understand why the flames want to get it lowered, but sometimes you just have to take it, right? Remember when the wide dog got 20 games and they like knocked it down to 10,

but he'd already served like 13? Yeah, but that was all for getting the money back that it was like, we're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars that are coming back in, in Dennis Widman's pocket, which is the reason why you do it. And I was just thinking, boom, like, if you just, like, said exactly whatever was, like, in Rett's mind, do you think we could boil the showdown to nine minutes? Like, we don't need, like, an hour and a half. It's just like, shitty hit, move on. Flames lose.

Yeah. No effort. All right. Flames lose to Detroit, six to two. Thoughts? They were no good. Guys. Uh, is Rasmus Anderson suspended four games.

Thoughts? I had a great thought. I had one last night and I reiterated it. today. It's open for the discussions amongst you three fine gentlemen. What, uh, what does Ryan Huska do at the moment? Because my thoughts were you get rid of a hard ass like Sutter. He knows that he can't go in there banging his fist and kicking cans and has to approach this delicately. How do you handle this with, with efforts that just don't cut it or results. Look at what Pascal Vincent's done in Columbus. Damon Severson, you just signed a $48 million

or $50 million contract. Third game with the team, you can sit the third period, sir, for your pizza that you served up the middle of the ice against the Detroit Red Wings. Look, you know, Ken Johnson, 40-point scorer last year. You are sitting on opening night. This is something in his toolbox that I don't think you have to turn around and say, oh, this guy is an unreasonable asshole, we're, you know, he's too hard on us. You have to use the levers and mechanisms that are in place. My guess is that what he's going to continue to preach is process over everything. But I mean, I wouldn't be opposed. If it really is an effort issue, which I've, you know, you're watching it a lot more closely than I am because I have eyes on all

these other teams. If you're saying that's an issue, you've got to be able to use some of that to leverage more out of your players. I think it's probably oversimplifying to say, oh, Darrell was hard, so this guy can't be hard too. I think it was more that Darrell wasn't being fair or that Darrell wasn't being transparent. It was more nuanced than just he's hard. I don't think Ryan Huska can't be hard just because Darrell was. Yeah, I don't think it's this simple formula of you take bad cop and replace him with good cop and all of a sudden, that equals team is good. That's not how it works and no one is ever all black or all white in terms of trying to figure

all that out. And I bet for Huska, it's not even a situation where does he, can I, can I rip these guys? It's, it's very strategic. What if we lose the next three games? What if we win? What do I do today? Do I go in and act like nothing happened? Do I, do I tear a strip off of them?

Do I say nothing? Like you say, Frank, do I just start to take away ice time? Because I think if you're the assistant coach turned head coach, it can work. But I think a lot of times guys try and puff their chest out. I'm a head coach. This is how I have to portray myself now.

And then you come in with a different, you just act different and you treat people different. The guys, we look at your house? This isn't you. What are you trying to do? They're not going to be fooled. And I think if Huska comes in and, like, like you say, Red starts kicking cans.

Guys are going to be really husk. This isn't you. For him, it's probably going to be walk softly carry a big stick. And the stick is probably ice time, power play time responsibilities. It's probably all he's got. And I-

Fair about it, right, Dean, like to say, here's why you're sitting. And if you have issues with that, we'll watch film together. I don't, I don't know Ryan Huska that well, spent, you know, 15, 20 minutes with him in training camp to stay.

the year and asked him specifically about making that transition from assistant to head coach. I don't see any of those issues popping up that you're talking about, someone that's going to try and be something that they're not and puff their chat. That's not, none of that I don't even think enters his thought process or vocabulary. It's not that, I don't think that's the way he's wired. But watching all this, like you have to have some system, some form of accountability that pushes back when you see things that you don't like. And it doesn't need to be nasty. You don't need to yell and scream. It's just a very simple, hey, we're professionals here and you made a mistake or you've made this same mistake five times.

Now you need to take a seat next to me. Is there no concern. Okay. Then you're right. Take the ice. but I feel like there was ice taken away last year and they quit on a guy. Kind of felt like he rolled more than he took away ice, to be fair, Brett. Like it was just your one, two, three, four, that's the order to roll.

It wasn't like there was a lot of, but Huberto didn't play the third. Either way. I would say that there is a handful of players in that room that quit on a coach and didn't like his style and that's fine and good. But if they start to not like this coach because they're not playing, What makes you believe that they're not going to quit on him? I think that it was easier,

it was easier for the team to turn on Daryl for how Daryl treated the team. And they had more time with Daryl, right? Daryl had, it was two years of, of Daryl. And you played for the guy retro. You would know there's the Sutter, the Sutter vice is a, that's a little bit different. When he is hard on you, I feel like that's probably,

there's not many coaches in, today's game that are going to be that that hard on you. I just I know I know what the point you're making is is that it's less about the coach and it's more about the guys and you have to glad hand these guys. Those players, someone, and again, I guess is it backlin now because he's the captain? Someone's got to grab a hold of the room and just say, listen, coach be damned. Do we care about each other in this room? Do we want to win? We're not in February where a season is lost. We control this. We had a shitty kind of a road trip.

But as Frank said, we've played one home game. Let's come out and be better against the Rangers. Let's just let's be better. Let's dig in here. I still, I still don't know. It just like you say, right, it doesn't pass the smell test.

It just feels like it's a collection of players. It's not a team to me. That's the one of the unwritten, you know, things that was not talked about nearly enough. I mean, we talked about it at some point in January or February when Nazim Cadry called them out and said, we will make the playoffs if we play like a team. Allsterberg, yeah.

That was, to me, the defining quote of the season. And then he pursued to be one of their worst players, Frank, the rest of the way. Well, and multiple guys, including him, ended up quitting toward the end. And there were some certainly some unacceptable efforts. but that part of it, you can change out the coach, you can change out the system, you can change out whatever it is that you want, but if there's no cohesion,

if there's no chemistry, if they don't like each other and want to do well for each other, I don't know that any of that's going to matter. The collection of talent, you know, it's a collection of individuals. And what's interesting is over the weekend, And we hear the suggestion circulates that maybe Noah Hanifan and the team might be interested in getting a deal. I think the flames have been interested in getting a deal done.

But maybe Hanifan would want to come back. And then you watch this type of a performance. You're like, you're bringing back more of these guys. You want to lock into more of them. Where, you know, on its own merit, I would be very okay with Noah Hanifin signing a contract extension. He's still young enough. You can sign a six to eight year deal. I don't worry about him.

But then you worry about having another guy to a big ticket that's aging. If you could wipe those other two out, yes, get Hanif and done. Get it done today. But I wonder, do you worry at all about keeping more characters from this team while we critique them harshly on one hand and then talk about signing them to long-term deals in the next? I mean, I'm with you and I would say you're a couple contract, extensions away from being the New York Islanders.

Yeah. If not worse. A team that is totally locked in term-wise and dollar-wise to the same core from here until the foreseeable future where you already are on the outside of the playoffs looking in or you just squeak in and you don't really have any hope to vault yourself into the contender or threat category that you know, you're hoping, wishing and praying. that you can somehow have the stars align in any given season that will help get you there. And that part, I think certainly is a real concern and would have to be something that the

flames are thinking about, which is why, look, I'm not here to offer advice, but if I were sitting in the chair, I'd say, we need to have a little bit of a contract moratorium here. Because let's back it up for a second. And let's go back to June when Craig Conroy took over. And Noah Hannafin more or less says to the flames, and not so direct words, but the overall thought process was, I don't want to play in Canada.

Last time I checked, Calgary's still in Alberta. What happened here that allowed you to suddenly say, you know what, I'm in? And whether it's, you know, the next one year, five years, seven years, whatever the extension ends up being, you are still playing for a team that's based in Canada. Is that feeling going to grow? Is it going to have you suddenly settled in? You're like, hey, I'm good. I'm committed for the long term. I mean, last time I checked, there are other Americans that have stayed a long time, Craig Conroy being one himself.

You know, it's an interesting question of, do we have people that are just, and I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth. Do we have anyone here that's selling out for the security? Well, I think we've seen it in almost all these markets too, Frank. Like Brady Kachuk committing to an Ottawa senator's before an ownership change. When the outlook for a new rink was grim. Cole Cawfield's locked in in Montreal. Connor Hallibuck just re-upped in Winnipeg, despite an offseason where everyone thinks he's going to leave. J.T. Miller's re-uped in Vancouver.

I just feel like all these guys looked around and said, this is my best chance to get paid. And this whole cap going up, well, how's the attention? tenant's looking and how many teams are going to be capped out immediately anyway because of built-in raises for next year. Like, maybe we just take the bird in the hand. Which is fine, but you better acknowledge that fact then and say, hey, I just told this team three, four, or five months ago that I, this wasn't the place I wanted to live. And that's kind of a shitty spot to be in, right?

When you're a team and a player reengages in contract talks, you have to be, you have to kind of look sideways. What's your motivation here? Why? Where ordinarily you would be great. We want you to stay. Let's get something done. Here you have the kind of question. So what is it that you're really wanting to do? Well, and here's the other part of it, though.

Like, let's now bake in the spot that this team is at. You know, I've been saying as great as the idea of getting Elias Lindholm and especially as good as he's looked to start this year, you want to try and keep him.

but what happens if things go sideways? What happens if we get to January and the flames are 17 and 23? Honestly, we've been saying the worst case scenario for this team all summer we've said it, is that they're right on the cusp of playoff spot at the deadline.

If they were just clearly not good enough, it makes things really easy if you haven't locked all these guys into long-term extensions. Because if you put a Lindholm and a Hanofin on the market at the deadline, you're getting a pile of assets, whether that's picks or young players,

players you pick. But locking into both those guys before you're good or not seems really, really fraught with risk. And so then why do it right now six games into the year? That's the question. Because as the reports of this morning, Elliot had said, quote, it's, it would be surprising at this point if it didn't happen. That's really strong. It's very strong. I was surprised to see it the about face of what came from June. It's a big stark difference. And I just I would want to see more from my team before going about and making sure everyone's nice and comfortable. Yeah, like maybe these guys are just saying, look, I'm going to get more here and it's about money. That, I don't know that that helps. I don't be grudge any player

ever doing that or getting it. Just from a pure team building perspective, I'd want to see the first quarter of the season before I did anything else. Yeah, like if he's going to get Devon Taves money, great. The problem is Devon Taves are way better defensive than no hand of it. like by all makes yeah and all Devon Taves is a multi-time

50-point score that defends as well as he plays offense and he gets seven seven and a quarter so if no one can get that here now I understand

why he wants to stay a little more because he's getting overpaid and your my guess is somewhere between McKenzie Weger

and Devon Taves it's it's just hilarious that all of these UFAs and it was like so what are you going to get for them you've traded to Foley, you've signed Backland,

now you might sign Hanofin. This is not how I saw this going. And again, I like Noah Hanofan. I'm fine with him staying. But again, like you say, the context of it all now. It's just everything else with it. Well, and the other thing Frank kept saying was the summer is like,

look, like you're just not going to be bad enough to bottom out here with these guys. Well, I'll tell you what, if Cadreys going to look like this and Hubert was going to look like this and you do sell, let's say, a Markstrom, a Hanofin, a Lindholm, I think you could get bad enough. And I didn't really believe that this summer. And it's very early and this still might be a playoff team. Oh my God. The sky is falling in Calgary.

No, but there's no game breakers, Frank. Like they've gotten great goaltending from Markstrom and they have two wins and one of them was Giffrat from Buffalo and the other they got outplayed. Maybe they beat the Rangers and their 500 great. But the notion that they can't be bad. I just watch them lose the five-down playoff teams. It's what you said, Frank, about the Islanders. They are the Islanders of the West. But they don't play as well defensively and they don't have to fesda guy necessarily.

They tighten it up and they even do. they're going to get into the playoffs. And what's their hope for moving, okay, you made it. You got a chair, now you need 930 goaltending. And other than that, it's not happening. That's the scariest part is the Islanders might actually get 930 goaltending and they might get in. And that's a big difference between, you know, you go from Sorokin to Markstrom, who's entering his mid-30s.

Before we let you go, just a question for you. If we can go, Jack, if we can go to the full shot on Frank, Please don't. On Frank's set there. We were just curious last week. We saw it. Now, your Crown Royal bottled,

have you got a slow leak? Yeah, going there, because Ryan has one and I have one, and Red has one. I had to go like this. We just kind of,

it's not a... So you were watching that Detroit game yesterday, too, then, Frank? Yep, yep, yep. Missing some schnapps out of the, out of the crock pot there. Oh, here we... Getting,

ready for the game. Yeah, go Phil's. Ooh. Fresh, hey? Let's go. That's a way to start a Monday. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy. Go Phillies. Go Crown Royal. When the flames are over 500, Frank. Let's have fun. Live generously. Does that fit inside your shirt pocket with you and pops when you go to the game tonight? Yeah, I don't know about that. I think that's, yeah, probably a no go.

Yeah, well, you'll figure it out. What's that, what was the, the, uh, ever clear? What's that called? Rumpelmans. rumplements. Yeah, it's actually grain alcohol with a hint of mouthwash flavor. So it's good. It's really good. I mean, what's better than that?

You get a shot and some fresh breath on your way into the game. I mean, Crown would be better, but okay. Yeah. Beautiful. Thanks, Frank. We'll catch up with you next week, buddy. See you guys. There you go.

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Learn more at tellus.com slash gives back. Rumpelmans. I feel like Frank gets disappointed in us. Well, here's the thing. The mood is never a joyous one when he comes on here. We're never celebrating something terrific or some huge victory. It seems like, Frank, you said this. The first week the last year, maybe, the first week we had them on,

they were, oh, what a great start. And then they lost one game to the Oilers and everything went in the shitter. That's, yeah, I don't, I wouldn't want to come on here either. I don't want to come on. And I'm here every bloody day. That's your job. You don't want to come on. You're getting paid to shop, but you don't even like coming on.

Rangers tomorrow, eh? Oh, great. Christ. Yeah. And if they're going to be the flames, they'll suddenly somehow play well against the Rangers. I mean, it's just, it's, it, uh, it still feels like a very, very seven to 10 in the West, six to nine in the West type team. And I see some people in the chat and that's fine.

And guys are overreacting. And we might be overreacting. But here's the thing. What would be the, is it boy who cried wolf? It's just we're not going, we're not going to be fooled as easily. Or we're not going to be. convinced as easily because we've been watching this same drama unfold year after year. What are you hanging your hat on? Okay,

so call it overreacting, but what are you hanging your hat on? Aside from the fact that it's early, that they've only played six games. That's the only thing. Well, Markstrom too, but the problem is Marks was giving a good goaltending and you have one. Even with that much improved Markstrom, you still went one three and one on a road trip against teams that don't even say that you should have beaten, as you've said, Ryan. were non-playoff teams a year ago. Yeah, and you're a non-playoff team from last year, but you want to be one.

So there's a chance to measure yourself against the rest of that field. Teams that missed that said, we're going to be better. We've got to get in. The results aren't good. No, Bueno. Not good.

Yeah, so congrats on their win tomorrow night against the Rangers. Yeah, that's right. What I want to do now, we talked about Crown Royal. And Crown Royal, we, you know, you know them, you love them. it's it's crown royal season here in calgary it's a little uh it's a little chilly isn't it

snow is falling it's definitely crown royal season crown royal the generous guy that's kind of the promo that they've got going right now you treat be generous right look for some who's out there doing good good things they deserve a little bit of crown royal in their life how about uh how about this one here okay this is a friend of our friend our friend our friend buddy, Matt Stajan. We had him on, on the show this summer. And, you know, good guy. Hey, Hey, Retro. From all accounts. And everyone who talked to. From all accounts. There is he, his, his wife, Katie, and they're two boys. And this is the, the Emerson Stajon, infant transition room. The Stagin's have raised a lot of money over the years on with their own endeavors. And they hooked up with the Flames Foundation. This room is going to be available.

I believe it's at foothills for newborn children that maybe you just need a little pocket, a little area in the hospital where you need some private time, some alone time because, of course, Emerson Stagian was their young boy, newborn that passed away in the hospital, the day of his birth. And they continue to keep his spirit alive. And look at the two boys. Look at this happy family. You got to love it.

There they are in the room. Look at old Maddie. He's good people, Rhett. It's a generous guy. Makes you a little bit teary-eyed, actually. For them, how wonderful it is to have that healthy family and still do everything they can to keep Emerson's spirit alive. That is awesome.

And for, well, not for the two young boys, of course, but for Matt and Katie, little crown royal, generous guys right there. Generosity lives in the small things. Doesn't need money or an audience or even acknowledgement. It just needs a few good people. Crown Royal, crown everything.

And Pinder was away for all that, but it's all right. Just know that it's a good thing. Great human. And I had to tinkle. Is that what it was? Yes. I thought maybe your internet was shit

because, is he glitchy for you, Rhett? He looks glitchy to me. Move, Pindra. It's worse than that. Yeah, he's locked right tight. Jack, what's going on? Your camera is, your camera is completely out of focus.

It's out of focus. And your internet's shit. Is Jack back in studio yet? We really, this, Pinder can't take care of himself. I am here. Well, Jackie Shivers is back. He wasn't here. Everything worked great.

Don't blame me. Jackie Shivers, yeah. Because, of course, now it's time to do the Pinda Report, but I'm kind of worried. Let's give it a go. Because I have nothing prepared if you, if you crap out or need a tinkle. This epic Pinda report would be hearing. Village Honda. Village Honda.

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and online at VillageHonda.com. new in-stock inventory arriving daily, more on the ground as we speak. Start your automotive adventures at Village Honda. New vehicle pricing is MSRP, which means more stinking Ryan Pinder. It's time for the Pinder report. Fellas, we'll start with yesterday's matinee against the wings. Why would I tell you about it when Rhett and Boom could? Here's a clip from Afterburner.

Problem. This is no longer I'm not playing on the right wing. This isn't the coach doesn't like me. This isn't I'm new to town. It's six games in. I want to try and be fair. But these are mistakes and things that you should not be seeing. Take the cap hit away.

This guy's a veteran. He's a veteran who has led teams and scoring. He's got offense in his game. I don't know what we're watching. Well, we just mentioned another veteran guy. And you don't for Detroit, Peron. Play as good as him. I don't care about the contract.

Play as good as him. Like, it's, it's, there's issues to come with this. just believe that's starting to build up. That is the fellas from last night. 11th of the season is in the books and it's not been overwhelming for the fellas has it. These shows we've been doing are just real, you know? Well, we're supposed to be all positive and wins and we're having fun and love each other.

The team's good. I like spring training better, preseason, whatever you call it. Everyone was in great spirits. No one had lost the game that mattered. That was a waste on her. Yeah, training and, back home working out back home life was good for everybody how uh how many games do they play 82 so i don't want you to do boomer math lab on the air but safe to say there's lots left a few more

to go they're going to turn it around one 14 like i was saying around that that's how much they come on boys turn it around eh yeah start with a big w for uh red zone hockey let's go let's go so styrkin always soils his trunks against terrible in calgar um you had talked about he not looking good. But what about the data, Dean? I mean, look, that's just the ITETs. Humans have biases. I can't see shit, right?

Well, all you want to see is the bottom of the screen. The further left you go, the more you hurt the team. And there is Dubay, Cadrean Yuberdo. Clearly their worst line. Defense of black holes, no offense. And yeah, yikes. Clearly, their worst line and two of their top two paid forwards. Not a great sign, fellas.

Do they'll bring anybody down. though. Yeah, it's just too happy. It's a lot to care. Now again, Huberto had a goal waved off because Cadre bumped the goal. Don't care. But if you do take that away. 13 minutes, 38 seconds of ice

minus four zero shots on net. Oh. So maybe you can give them the one. Here's the road trip. I was sitting at a pub instead of watching my kids power skate yesterday and ran through some of the data. That's what good parents do. You got to stay away.

Don't over parent. Beef dip or anything to go with? Oh, just a couple of words. Five non-playoff teams. Yeah. Blown leads in two of the five games. Scored more than two goals just once.

Their best players by salary, looks like they're worst players. D-Zone's no good. Penalty killing Markstrom. Oh, and the power plays only 10.5% on the trip, too. Tough, tough roadie. That doesn't mean everything's going to be awful. It just means it's a bad bleep and wrong.

go, boys. Turn it around. Let's go. Lots of room for upside. Lots of room. And you know what? Let's go sign one of these guys to a big extension. Here's the news on Noah Hanofin. Elliot Friedman saying, quote, it would be a surprise at this point if it doesn't happen. Keep looking for more updated information there. I know Pike's got a mailbag.

He also had that from the Saturday notes. They updated that this morning on Elliot's podcast. It sounds very close, which is a little concerning. Which is too bad because on it, on the surface, sign Noah Hannifan. Well, let's break this down. Five-year plan, though, right? This is where Rhett and I are going to go.

Let's break this down. Right? If he gets signed, is it the worst thing? No. Probably a movable asset at some point. Unless it's a huge overpay, which you hope it isn't. Yeah, I'd agree with that. It's not like he's 30 or 32.

I was thinking about this yesterday after they shit the bed again. Right right with you, boys. We're right there. You do have to, like when they, if they miss the playoffs this year and they sell a bunch of stuff, you still have to have a team next year, right? I look, you'll love this, Red. Guess how many defensemen? Sorry, go ahead, Red.

Just let Red finish. Yeah. No, well, that's kind of what I'm getting at. And Noah Hannifin has played a bunch of hockey. He's still quite young, eats up a bunch of minutes. he is not a concern, in my opinion. No. Because you would be coming back with Hannafin, Anderson, and Weger.

Yes. So you would have a very solid decor for a few years to come. The only downside is what assets were available. Yes, that is your opportunity cost. It's not, hey, what would it pay to get a guy like him? It's no, no, no, no. What young talent could we get for him? That's what Connie has to be measuring here.

a kale macar or maybe not kale macar but someone you know what i mean like is there a is there a de brinket and remember he just went through a summer fielding essentially fielding hanaffin offers before the draft at the draft after they're all summer long and there was nothing that just i don't want to put words in his mouth what miners there was nothing that was close yeah teams teams were positioning themselves as yeah they were capped out or didn't have a need or hey you're will help you you out because you have so many UFAs. We'll throw you a third and a fifth. Yeah, no one, yeah. Everybody was on end.

New GM, let's see if we can take him to the cleaners. It was undercutting. There was nothing close. So that's why you sign him. Or that's why you go to the deadline when teams can't play, you know, oh, I'm going to call your ball. No, you either get the guy you don't. It's the deadline and you need

top four D man. That's where his value is the highest. It's always been the highest for players at the trade deadline. It's difficult though. It's an interesting point. you make, Red, because from where I sit, I find it nearly impossible to view any of it without the Caudry Hubertow. Yeah. You know, shielding my vision. I think if you, if you just sit in Conray's shoes and Dave Known as shoes, they have thought this through and they've spent many, many hours. I think they're resigned to the fact that they've got these guys.

there there is no plan if even in a rebuild situation those guys are here under what scenario are you moving those guys if you pay half not even who's which GM's going to hang their nuts on that term on other than it's not worth it right so you so you you can put together make these plans and think you're going to be better this year and pray and keep your fingers cross that those guys start producing, which would be great. But I think deep down in the back of their minds or in other scenarios, they've mapped it out where they're here. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Those are removable objects. We've got these contracts for the next eight years, six, eight, whatever it is. And that's just, that's, it's spent. it's kind of like me with with the goat I just have to I've come to the realization I'm just going to have to live with this like I can't get around anymore I can't leave the house it's debilitating

it's painful I can't sleep like I'm just going to have to live with this so what am I going to do with the rest of my life Hubert O'Codry A lot of positivity there fellas of goat Okay so debilitating goat You can keep Hannafin because he's a fine asset

That's right. Guess how many players are under contract in the NHL and American League that are defensemen for the flames next year? The entire system. Four. Three. Is that not insane? That's crazy. That's a great spot to be in.

Options. I mean, if you want to be bad, it's an amazing spot to be in. If you're trying to be competitive next year, it's a nightmare. You're not making this any better. Yeah. And so I guess the context of that is that you are going to need players. and Hanifin's not a bad one, and he isn't as old as any of the other guys we're talking about.

And he's going to age well because he skates well. That's the strongest correlation to not looking like shit right away when you turn 30. So I don't mind it in that sense. But God damn it, what's the pile of assets look like at the deadline for this guy? You saw Hampus Lindholm go for like a first and two seconds. How different is he? Like a little more offense, a little less ice time.

Do we have rose-colored? glasses with Panofin or rose-goly. I mean, he's a two-three in my world, and I think those guys get nice returns at the deadline. Is that Mel McDaniel? Who sings Rose-Coling Glass? Oh, John, Google it. Fellas, we're being so negative.

We're not talking about the Abbotsford Heat, Adirondack Flames, Stockton Heat, Calgary Wranglers enough. That's what we're not doing, okay? Because look at the start, Connor, Zeri's off to. You want to talk about a flush system of prospects. Eight assists in four games for Zari or Zeri? Tell us how you want us to say it. Keep playing like that. You'll be here soon, son.

Yeah, you put up those kind of points. We'll say however you want us to say it. That's right. Love that. John Conley. So not Mel McDaniel. So not Mel McDaniel. Not Mel McDaniel. That's, you know, that's his baby's got my blue jeans on.

Their baby's got her blue jeans on. Down on the corner by the traffic light. Are you sure? Everybody's looking as she goes by. I know the song, but I'm not sure. It's Mel McDaniel. Watch until she's gone. Bada b'am bop bapada.

It's not a bar da, Bada, ba'da. Boat daisy. Baby's got a shot up. Blue jeans on. Nobody wants to hear you sing. That's incorrect. Lots of people want to hear him sing, right?

Including Dean. It's only who makes them happy. Oh, Lord, it's hard to be humble. Oh, Lord, that's, uh, T.J. Shepard. Is there a female cover of that one? I don't know. I think you're out to lunch on these names. I just, like,

the guy literally was a disc jockey when such a job existed. Okay, so how do you want to know? Which one? Oh, Lord, it's hard to be humble when you're perfect in every way. Just wait. Can't wait to look in the mirror. Ah, shit. Each day. Who did I say TG. shit?

Mac Davis. Mac Davis. I knew it was an M. What does T.G. Shepard's saying? God, damn. Go ahead, Ryan. Come on. Ryan, would you please keep going with this thing?

It's so long today. Only two years left on the dry-sidal McDavid current contracts. And now one to two weeks for the. best player in the history of hockey, they'll be absent. That may slow down the steaming hot start of the Oilers that has one win in their first five games.

He appears to be on track to miss the Winter Classic. War is hell on the home front too, right? That's the one that TG shit. I know it was some kind of a quirky War as hell. War is hell when the men have gone on to war to fight in the military guys, it's hard

for the ladies, the wives, who have been left The home war is hell on the home front too. God only knows what a woman goes through. Thank you for that, Dean. We got some video of Leon Drysettled hearing this news about Connor McDavid being out. Let's have a look here. Oh, what we got going on? That's not the video I thought we were going to have.

Oh, Leon. Hey, he's going. He's pissy. Well, at least Evander Kane didn't have some snipes at the coach at the intermission on Saturday. Yeah. They lost there. They blew a two-nothing lead. If only we could take some pleasure, if the flames are going to be god-awful,

please just have the Oilers screw up one more year of two of the greatest players in their prime. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please. Yeah, Evander Caney said, well, you know, I wasn't getting much playing time, so I figured I'd just go out and fight. And then sit in the box for seven or eight minutes. Toss the bucket off. Do you see that tilt, Red? And we've already got an F-bomb.

You mentioned it last week, already an F-bomb from the coach. F-sharp from McClellan as well? Or not McClellan as well. Excuse me, did you a woodcrown? Is that we fought? Brendan Dillon, former teammates in San Jose. Brendan Dillon. Remember when Evander was not with the team and then was going to be brought back

and the whole shark's room said, we're good. Just don't bring him back in. I know he's allowed to plan out. We don't want to win. Patrick. Patrick Kane? Yeah, we'd love to have him. Oh, wait. What?

Evander? No, no. We thought he was gone forever. Please don't ever bring him back. Okay. You're going to love this, Rhett. How hard are the equipment guys working in the NHL? Hardest working guys in the whole organization, equipment guys?

100% massive hours get in at 2 a.m. Hang up wet gear, go to bed, get back up, back of the rink at 5 a.m. You love to see them

getting an apple. Here it is. But I thought so far he's made a nice impact for sure. Obviously the goal, but everything else aside is good shots.

Oh, here we go. Babelro's got a man open. Evangelista with a new stick. Coming in. Evangelista, scoff! Yeah, Pete!

Yeah! I love that they cheered him. That's awesome. Well, because he's quick too, right? Stick breaks. Bang, he's got it. Right number. Zips it out. Catches it on the fly. Breakaway goal. Fellows don't miss that. Love that. And in, uh, it's like a team. Teams having fun. Yeah.

It was sweet Pete Baru for the, uh, Abbott's right? He's now with the Calgary Heats, right? Sweet Pete. Love the heat. To put the cap to you, fellas. Okay, we'll move along. Uh, Anze Kopitar just set the new record for most games played by an LA King. Watched. He's just wonder. Past his prime, or not.

We shall see. He's so young, his kid, well, watch. He's reading the opening lineup. It's pretty cool. In goal, number 39, Cam, Talbot. Talbot.

On defense, number 44, Mikey Anderson. Number eight, Drew Doughty. Forward. Number 55, Clinton, Byfield. Number nine, Adrian Campi.

Yeah. And my dad, number 11, Anj Copatat. There it is. He's got one of those homemade jerseys on, too, with the 11 and the... That's pretty cool, and you can play that late into your career that your kid can come in. What is he? Like, five to eight there? That's pretty sweet. 16?

I just have a kid when you're 18. It's not that hard to do. Making the NHL and having a kid when you're 18, those are things many of us can never even dream about. It's not that hard, Ryan. Jesus Christ. Yeah, just play like 1500 games. Have a kid when you're 18.

You can do that, right? It's so hard about that. You can't be a first ballot Hall of Famer? Come on. It's amazing. Not hard. Calgary's own Logan O'Connor having a start to the season, fellas.

A fight. A shorty. A shorty. He had shorty goals two games in a row. Yeah. You know anything better than that? You know anything better than that? How about three games in a row? Car in pursuit on the near side. That puck is loose.

Look at the speed. Oh, God like Kid Beauty. Let's go. Calgary's own, the LOC. Good kid. I do like the speed. Zoot fly. Yeah, he's an avalanche player. He seems perfect for his role on the team. It's like they have an identity.

It's like they know what they're doing in the front. doing in the front office there, they've, uh, go hire those guys. They've been really, really good at everything. When they peeled off Devon Taves for two seconds. Yeah, what the hell were we doing? We got Hamidick for more than that, a first and two seconds for Hamannick. Hmm. I was, we got the wrong honor.

Oh, and they got Noah Dobson in that swap. He was still playing and not washed. Okay. Did Hammec play in the bubble? No, he didn't. Okay. Monday night game. Look at this huge slate we got tonight.

Who, buckle up, fellas. It is Buffalo against Montreal. Don't go up against Monday night football. That's not going to go, Gary. That's smart. And they're unveiling some pretty special tomorrow. All 32 teams will be playing tomorrow. Going to be fun.

Weird start times all day. Staggered games. So to make that happen, it's got to be a light slate tonight. I'm okay with it, Dino. I'm okay with it. I probably won't watch any of the ones tomorrow, but, you know, good. Good job here. You're going to watch the flames tomorrow?

I'll probably watch the flames. You're doing Afterburner with me at the Grey Eagle, so you better be watching that one. It's a goddamn post-game show. All right. Worst idea ever. Major League Baseball, we got some action tonight, Dino, two games. I don't want to tell you the series scores and get you all hot,

but it is a do-and-die-die-game seven for the Astros and Rangers in Houston, the road team 6 and 0 in this series. The Rangers, they haven't lost a road game all post-season. Oh, pretty good. Winning Baltimore. Who's pitching? Who's pitching? Who's pitching?

Chesa. The other matchup has Frank and his dad getting tanked in the parking lot. Love it. Before they head in to watch the Phillies wrap things up against the D-backs. Do you think they got all the empties and stuff picked up from the parking lot from the Eagles game last night? Just bringing like a snowplower or something to clean up all the shit? They got deposits on those. So people grab them and take them in for money.

The monies. Max Scherzer, Christian Javier. That's your matchup in the Battle of Texas. And the other one will see Merrill Kelly against Aaron Nola. It's quite good at pitching baseballs. Come on, Scher. I write something this morning when the Nationals beat the Astros, it was Scher in the must-win situation for the Nats back then.

Cool. So he has experience in this sort of a scenario. Congrats to Tommy and the Cavs. They did it, boys. They're going to the final. Second Pacific. 2-1, your final. A couple pretty goals.

They got it to an early lead. Good-looking crowd out there on Saturday. And now there's no more home games. Not until Messi comes in the winter, Dean. They're off to Hamilton. Let's go. Forge, Calvary, the greatest rivalry in the history of this five-year league, continually almost straight from the first game of the season.

How come the games there? How come they get home pitch? because they'd be cavalry at home two weeks ago. Oh, shit. Yeah, I know. We could have had that shortcut to the final instead. You had to play Pacific. Now you're on the road.

That's all right. Don't matter. They don't want it the easy way. Who's got it better than us, Dean? Huh? Just how we got it. Right where we want them. Let's go.

Just how we like it. It's just how we like it. That's right. Saturday. There's watch parties at Killed Ayers Elhouse and the ship at anchor. Do I need another excuse to go to the ship, Dean? You don't. There it is.

Ah! Ha! Ha! Ha! Let's go, fellas. Bring home some hardware. Kids hockey. Yeah, we'll move that practice.

Stan Peters got in, fellas. Nothing like a 6 and 11 team getting in. CFL. Playoff football. Good job, Dave. That a boy. It's not how you start. It's how you finish.

Nothing matters to Labor Day. No, nothing at all. Or American Thanksgiving even. Let's go, fellas. It's good that there's still a month or so left this year, season. Yeah, they got a meaningless game this week on the road against Winnipeg, I believe.

And I don't know if they've called you yet. If you got any 306 numbers showing up on your phone, Rhett they're going to clean house in Regina land. It is, uh, whoof. Not pretty. People of Saskatchewan won't come out and support your team. You've done something drastically bad. When you've been chased from behind by a six-win club,

people will get fired in an 18-game season. no less. Hey, Zeus. We laugh because we care. We laugh because we care. And you know what? Who gives a shit what you look like in July? Damn right.

To get in. It's a trophy's handed out. A trophy's handing out when the weather's good in Canada. Late November. Let's go. Dave's brother in Saskatchewan, though not as ideal. Sorry for you, Dave. Your brother, son is going to come to Calgary.

He's a good guy, though. Come to Calgary, yeah. Fellas, saw this thought of you. Hope that leaves you feeling love today. This is some sort of a hot dog thingy. And it's got beautiful music. You like hot dogs. Oh, I saw this.

It's like a hot wheels track. Oh, you need that with your goat? You've got to change your diet, Tina, for this goat. I'm telling it. It's the only way you're reviewed it. It looks like you. Who's loading the dogs, though? That's good work.

Right from the beginning, Jack. Look at this. That's just great stuff. Talk about, you know, humanity and mankind. And you always say what the aliens look down at us. Aliens are looking down. They're intimidated. They're looking down.

We don't want to go near these geniuses. Look at this shit. Do we know this is real? This is AI. Everything in the Tinderport is now. And dude can't get out of the launcher to take the black. Like you're burning the glass. I love it.

He just raises the glass of the, the, uh, the beer bottle. Just awesome. Yes. We're doing this. Score. It's beautiful. Yep. We're stupid.

It gets more beautiful, fellas, because there's more food. And it's food that helps you avoid taxes. There's a restaurant in Toronto that switched all their menu items to office supplies. Let's have a little perusal through the menu team. This is genius. You can expense them. It's on the menu. There's a mini dry erase whiteboard.

That's a burger, $11. Wired earphones with Mike, 1250. That's another burger. USB wired mouse. That just looks like French fries. Thunderbolt to HTML adapter. Those are soft drinks. And what else have we got here?

Delicious. Oh, ergonomic aluminum laptops. Why did you buy four? Why did you buy four steel staplers on Tuesday? Oh, I was really, I mean, we had a jam. This is genius. How many silicone keyboard covers do you need? We've had a big problem. There's some sort of silicone eating rat in the studio.

Somebody's been rifling them out the back, stealing them. Is that not amazing? I like it. That makes me happy. Almost as happy as seeing bad things happen to people that do the wave. Let's go to Edmonton or in a two, two. Oh, I'll start in Arizona. Look at this. Diamondback fans doing the wave.

This series is over. That's Jeff Passon. Remuto, two run shot less than a minute later after the wave started. An appropriate response, Philly six, Diamondbacks one. beautiful. Wow. But that's just a one-off, Dean. It couldn't actually have been twice on the weekend where the wave cursed the team.

Fans at Edmonton doing the wave with five minutes left in a two-two game, and that moment was the last shift Connor McDavid will see for weeks. Keep waving it up, folks. Hope you're having fun. You hate the wave. It's great when it's not a close game. But if there's something important happening, you did purchase a ticket to a sporting event. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

NFL Sunday, Rhett. The shoveler got this video. This is you and Rob Ray, down to the basement, down to the man cave. Let's have a look. Got a lot of grub here set up for the weekend. She's so mean. Listen to the shoveling cackling at you. It looks like you clip the post.

It looks like you clip the post. on the staircase there? It looked like you clip the top of the banister, yeah. Yeah, the banister got you. Damn it. It was huge. And then they lost anyway, so I was going to be a shitty day no matter what. Get to that. They were cursed when I picked them. You were right, Rhett. You were right. We got some snow coming in Calgary, Red. I want to keep you abreast of the situation. I'm looking outside. There's a tree. It's gathering snow on one side. Not the top,

a side of it. So that tells me it's windy and snowy. There's your snowfall warning. snow heavy at times, expected today, and tonight with a total amounting to 10 to 15 centimeters. Well, that's nice. What's just a minus A plus there on? I think that's the font size that they're talking about there. But yeah. Anyway, this is for all the shovelers out there because, Red, I know the shovelers, she'll be jealous to see people in Calgary letting it rip.

And I know last year. With a lot of people about shoveling today. That's right. And one of her great disciples, we met. we met last year in the winter. This is the Parkdale shoveler, knowing that this snow is coming, happy birthday Parkdale shoveler,

fueling up with some Costco Poutine. This is how you get ready for 15 to centimeters of snow. So all the shovelers out there, get ready. Get the gloves and shovel by the door. Get your boots out. It's coming. Got to fill the tank. Looks right.

Can't lie. It does look good, hey. Now, did you buy the drink or did you get a dog? Because, of course, as we all know, The drink comes free with the dog. These are some of our hardcore listeners, and this was sent in. So I don't know if this is birthday hijinks or carb loading before the shovel, but thank you for loving the barn burner. And this is the Parkdale shoveler?

The Parkdale shoveler. Happy birthday. Yeah. If it's your birthday, happy birthday. That's right. And good technique on the pooting there. You don't want that end up on your vest. Lean over your plate.

You're sharing that? Or is that just for you? looks intent. Doesn't look very sherry posture there. No. Finally, we told you about a little meeting I had with the grade three teacher last week.

Set that prick straight? Well, that lovely teacher, she didn't tell me there was cameras in the room and the CBE, it's got to be some, what would you call it? Like some sort of privacy laws here.

I'm a little concerned about because apparently this is what one of my kids did. So let's have a listen. Oh, Dave. Oh, thank you. thank you. You need to leave? Okay.

Oh. Yeah, he's out. Dave. Dave. Dave's no dummy. Dave knows how to get out of class. Yeah. Dave's going to place.

He doesn't even time of his parent nonsense. I'm out of here. And that's not the first time Dave has let one notice. No, Dave. Dave, no. If you see Rhett loading up that S earlier, he had an S-bomb, he loaded up, he hung on the S. Dave is throwing every ounce of that 48-pound body in. into this F bomb out of the gate.

Let's see. Because it wasn't even a what? Whoa. Hey, what is ready? Dave, Dave. They instantly know who it is. Dave. Dave has been here before.

No, Dave. Come on, Dave. Good afternoon. Nice. No, thank you. No, thank you. You need to leave. Okay.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, no. No, not nice. Sorry, son. No, thank you, Dave. No thank you. don't say the B word Dave

it feels like a key and peel sketch almost and now how does that phone call go to the parent well like you said we got called in we had the chat yeah yeah okay talk about it and Dave is understood I have a feeling Dave maybe comes by it honestly

certain times of place language and the teacher monitor moving forward Mr. Terwilliger Dave was removed from class today for an F-bomb. What the fuck did he say?

Apparently, someone in the chat saying that's actually Evander Cain that was, and that was talking to Woodcroft after the key. Oh, is that with Daryl's. Yeah, okay, maybe. Do we get Dave in to yell at Hubert O'clock? That's your painer report. Brought to buy Village Honda. Huge selection of used slash pre-owned vehicles,

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How old would Dave? Shut up. God, you know what? If you were that age and Dave was in your class, you would love Dave. How old school go to date? You wouldn't believe what Dave did. You should have seen what Dave did today. It was unbelievable.

No, just go today, dad. And the dads would be like, What did Dave do it? Dave do today? What did Dave do? Then you'd learn to egg them on. You'd get a teacher what? Dave, I don't think she heard you.

Dave. Oh, thank you. Whoa. Oh, Dave. Dave. Dave. Dave. So is Dave done his suspense?

Is Dave back after his? No screen time on the weekend for Dave and short leash. No, no candy in his lunch, no recess. I feel like Dave got some Dave Chappelle vibes. going on. I'm not worried about Dave. Dave's going places. You hear that passion in his voice? Yeah, jail, but he's

going places. Yeah. Was Dave in class today? No, he's in juvie. It's over for Dave. Dave finally went too far. Too far. Yeah, Dave slashed the teacher's

tires. We're going to see Dave around these parts for a while. Hey, Dave, that would be funny. School sure sucks now Dave's talking. Yeah. See, you need Dave. No one swears anymore since Dave left. Oh, sorry about that. A little love it for you there, Phil. Yeah, that's good. I appreciate that.

That is a great clip. It's all good. Like, that's right up there with Terry and the fireworks. Like, there's a few layers to it, right? Yes. She is screaming, right? Like, she's, what are you yelling for? What is this all about?

And Dave's right in the front row. obviously she's blowing his doors you gotta keep your eye on Dave Dave's ready and then he doesn't even get the full like curse slander out before one of the oh yeah Dave Dave

Oh Jesus Dave They are well versed in Dave Yes There's a Dave situation in room 8 We know that God damn Dave Talk about this day Fuck sakes Dave

Dave Dave didn't choose the thug life. The thug life chose Dave. No, they did for sure. Where's Dave hearing those words? I feel like the parents have got to be the most cringe more of anything there. That's what I'm saying.

I wonder, what do you expect to get when you phone call the parents to tell them that Dave was swearing? It's been the same language at that house for the children were born. Daryl wants to know what number, Dave? Well, you know what Dave's going to need? Dave's going to need some legal help.

Who better than McLeod law? Yes, it's not Dave's fault. He just needs their representation. Dave's going to need to get, Dave and Peter Klein are going to be on a first name basis. They're going to need to know. He's the disability insurance claim guy. Peter Klein, he's the personal injury guy. McLeod law, whatever your legal situation is, if you need legal assistance, you need legal help,

then there's only one place to go and it's McLeod law. They cover the full gamut, whatever it is, they will take care of, care of you. Their Calgary, Calgary born and bred, Calgary roots run deep, big part of their longstanding client relationships. They get our city. They get the people in it. And the way things work like the communities they serve, McLeod Law team, is varied

and diverse and share a commitment to making a positive impact on Calgary. Now, we sometimes do this day in flames history, that sort of thing, because of their roots. This one isn't necessarily Calgary, but it's one that all Calgarians will know and likely fondly remember. Frank maybe not so much.

Sarajevelli, maybe not so much. But let's go back to this date, the 23rd of October, in 1993. 93. On the way, a swing and a belt. A field way back. Blue Jays win it.

The Blue Jays. He's already run home run. Blue Jays have repeated as World Series champions. Touch them all, Joe. You'll never hit a bigger home run in your life. Mitch. Back to back.

Wow. There's a mob scene over in front of the Philadelphia dugout. Suck it, Kurt. The fireworks exploding. The Blue Jays have mobbed Joe Carter. He's somewhere under the big pile up. He hits a three-run, home run. And for the 19th time, and the first time since 1978,

Major League Baseball has a repeat World Series champion. And it's your Toronto Blue Jays. They defeat the Phillies, eight to six, on Joe Carter's three-run home run in the bottom of the night. You will not find anything more dramatic than what we just witnessed here in this ballpark. On a two-two pitch, Joe Carter screamed a line drive home run into the left field bullpen. and the Blue Jays as Joe Carter is lifted aloft by his teammates have made the journey all the way back as repeat World Series champions.

There you go. Tom Cheek. The great Tom Cheek. Touch them all, Joe. Didn't hear his color guy. Tom, what's going on there? You going solo? When you're a color guy, I don't know.

You may not know this bender. There is a time. back away and just let let it breathe and let it go. Ricky Henderson, Paul Moliter. Yeah. Look at young Ed Sprague there. Almar. Juan Guzman.

Greasy mop. That's coming from me. What was the, uh, that this was the last time. I was truly happy. Yeah, that's the hugger, I think. It's 93. I thought when he hugged you, he was happy. He looked really happy when he gave you the hug at Greta there. Bottom nine, game six.

Jays go back to back on this date in 1993. You know Peter Cline of McLeod Law, he's the personal injury guy, but he's also the go-to guy in Calgary. For your disability insurance claim, your long-term disability insurance company is refusing to pay your insurance benefits. So I've been paying for those, Dean.

I deserve those, Pender. I've earned those. Contact Peter. He'll get you the disability benefits that you paid for, yes, and that you deserve it. Yes. Your peace of mind.

It's great having McLeod Law on your team and on your side. MacLeod-law.com is the website. This cannot have gone well for any of us as we look at our Betway point spread picks. Hey, I'm still hot, baby. I've been making people a lot of money for a few weeks here. Have you been? You kidding me? You bet against my picks.

You're fucking on an island right now. Fair enough, yeah. I feel pretty good about my picks. Well, you picked five. Was it six or five, yeah? Six. because you had the bills. Well, once I picked the bills, you got off the bills.

We'll see what Jack. In the last four years, he's never picked the bills, apparently. You guys both had the lions and the bills, and I said, no way, Jose. So look at this, Jack will back him up. He gets away from the bills. You had the giants with Tyrod. It's our Betway bets from going back to last week. Our Betway point spread picks for Betway.

Get the Betway up. Get it on your phone. play along. The game's already started. Don't matter. In game. Get there. Get the Betway up and bet the responsible way with our buddies at Petway.

So you did pivot away from the bills. The Giants plus two and a half. They went out right. Arizona, Seattle, plus seven and a half. It was only so much Josh Dobbs can do, I guess. And then Kansas City, you laid the number five and a half. They went going away.

I'm close. Chargers are brutal. He heard it here first. Yeah, Chargers. I was reading a thing again this morning in the middle of the night that they bring in Kellan Moore. It's going to help the offense. They're going to make some tweaks that they are, in fact, worse pretty much all around. Not terribly worse in some. The offensive numbers are kind of the same.

I don't hang much on the offense here, Dino. They cannot stop anything on defense. Two for three, Retro. What was the, so sorry, Jacko. what's his overall record? 10 and 8. 10 and 8. Yeah.

And you've screwed me on a few. Hey, that's accurate. This week, Dean and I are taking five and we get to pick the three we want. So we're going to catch you, bud. We're going to catch you.

It was a bad week, buddies. I cursed you. I went goose. I went goose on the week. I like Buffalo. Coming off of an embarrassing loss. They lose an embarrassing fashion again.

Detroit. And you know what? After I did this one, I got thinking about it. Why is it? Everyone's loving Detroit. No one trusts Baltimore. All of this is. This is too straightforward.

The public pick got crushed. And it was what, 38 nothing? Oh, it was a shellac job. 28 zip like in the second quarter. Yeah. So yeah. Lamar had a day. You tweeted it out early.

It was clear. It was clear. They scored in their first just nonstop. Bing, bang, bang. Bing, Bing. It was a pinball machine. And then Cleveland and Indy, they went back and forth and back and forth. Not quite minus three for Cleveland. Deshaun tried to help you, but.

Who, I mean, we can talk about that later in a week or whatever. Pick and gone. Man. Woff. He's a bad human and a bad quarterback. And Pinders terrible with football. Please. Guys, if you have been listening to us, you go again.

my picks, you make money. That is 10 in a row. I am on a heater for the ages baby. Don't ask me how. Just keep betting against me. Like me, you had the lions and the bills X, X, and you had the dolphins to keep within two and a half, and they did not. You fall to four and fourteen. So yes, if you have been going the exact opposite of Pinder, where are you going on your vacation this winter? Where aren't you going on your multiple vacations now that you don't have a job anymore? Wow. If you tried to pick 10 wrong in a row against the spread,

you wouldn't do it in 100 tries. Honestly, it's just like they're coin flips. How do you go 10 heads in a row? Jackie Boy, let's take a look, pal. No Pittsburgh or Pittsburgh? He did go Pittsburgh and they covered. Look at that. We were all in the lions, except for red, I guess.

Stupid lions. You had Vegas. Oh, minus two and a half. And maybe you never heard of was awesome against them. They're terrible. Yeah. Badgent or whatever the hell this name is. Tyson Bagent or whatever.

He's popping up the crowd. And yeah, the Steelers. Road dogs. Yeah. Yeah. That's, again, some of these trends with Tomlin and the Steelers and all that, just pay attention to them and you'll be okay. Off by, home dogs, all that.

They were a road dog getting three and they went outright. So Jack improves to eight and ten. on the season. I'll be back on Friday to win you more money. You're welcome. I just want to find this, uh, this stat here.

Because there was no real reason. Um, entering Sunday, only one of, uh, Baltimore's 18 possessions over the last six quarters ended with a touchdown. One and 18.

The lions, meanwhile, had held their past four foe, to 14 points per game. So yes, the Ravens and their awful offense against the Lions and their defense was going to end up 38-0 or whatever they ended up lines to get some points at the end.

You know what it is? We got to change our way of thinking. Rhett, you're doing very well. Don't think about it. The Lions, yeah, plus three, hey? No, they want you to think that way. Don't think that way. How do you know which games they want you to think that way?

Whichever one feels that you feel good about. Look at that. I've been mastered that for three weeks. Shit, I could have told you. Press record and download so that you can keep listening. Right? Like Pinder, you're, you are right there. You're right there.

You're just picking the wrong side. Well, I could, so again, you just go the opposite of me, or I'll give you the wink and I'll pick the opposite of what I actually would have done. Either way, we don't know what to do with you now. See, now we don't know what to do with you. you are you going to continue this methodology that you've been using or are you going to try and switch it up or what are you going to do i mean if i basically go to the exact same process i've been using and then switch the team at the end i'll just win the next 10 in a row and we're back to

500 but then we don't know what to do with your bets so you can't wink because some people are listening no you'll see you wink it'll be very clear what my plan is here i remember you a couple years ago you're like boy i really like Atlanta here this is a great spot the offense is looking good defense boy they've been stout we're going with carolina That's right. That's what we're doing. That's what we're going to do this Friday. I really like them, thus picking the other team.

I look forward to Friday. I do too. I can't wait. Can't wait for it. We got a decent game tonight, hey, Monday nighter? Yeah, San Fran and McCaffrey's going to play is the latest. Is he? Whoever spent a billion dollars on all the San Fran backups.

Jordan Mason. Sure. Eli Mitchell. Mason McDonald. You got that and two baseball games, nice little slate. Yeah, yeah. One NHL game, which brings us, of course, to DoorDash. What's on the menu with DoorDash?

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What a deal. Get on board. Let's go with some DoorDash. Pinder, there's some options. What's on the menu? Honestly? Where are we going? This is like when you go to a great restaurant,

but they have a signature dish. And it's like, sure, the other stuff's sensational, but you don't go away from the signature. The signature is a do-or-die game seven. We've got that in the Battle of Texas. Houston hosting Texas. This is as good as it gets. We have not had an elimination game for both sides,

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Subject to change. Terms apply. It's DoorDash dash that for the win. Nation 25. Nation 25. I had something, you know me, I like to get on the Kijijis and stuff, right? The Gigi, yeah. For noodles, he goes and it's informal.

commercials. What did he buy? Steak knives or what the hell did he buy? He said on the on the show last week. Not the pen with the hook in the in the yeah, the earwax. That's what it was. Yeah, yeah, the earwax camera, whatever it was. But I was on the Kajij and I found this one last week. I should check. Actually, this one I think was on the Facebook messenger or whatever the Facebook marketplace. I believe it's going. And Jack, I threw it in there last week. And if you want this because there's kind of a tie in for you, I wouldn't. I would do the negotiating if you were interested in buying this. It's a poster that's kind of a one of a kind. Congratulations, Calgary Flames, 2004 Stanley Cup champions. And there you could buy your commemorative Coca-Cola can for the 2004 Stanley Cup champions, the Calgary Flames. This guy has the poster.

I don't know that he's got the can, but he's got the poster. I can text the guy or email I'm sure it's gone see what he wants it's probably gone well I got check for you because you were on that 04 you were on that 014

I think sick I thought maybe how much I'll see what I can get them down to I'll uh this is going great I'll do some heavy duty negotiations never did see any of those like the hats or the or the shirts because they had to have done up on you if you always print them oh geez i'd tomorrow's game day

flame is back at home first game back after a road trip and they'll take on the new york rangers so yes 740 745 somewhere in there will be the start time a little clunky but as spender said they're trying a red zone esk type of a deal they want to have a tuesday in October. Cillatory. ESPN, baby. Yeah. So they're going to do that.

And the phone talk. Let a rip. All right. I got to go. See you, buddy. Where do you have to go? I got to get my kids.

Okay. Me too. Okay. See you later then. See you tomorrow, buddies. Missing anything? Just the bad way to end.

I shouldn't have done the thing, I guess. I don't think you liked it very much. Because they want to. Actually, did they win? Well, I mean, They looked like you kind of went in, but 2004.

I got to go, Dean. This is, it's not working for me here. Good luck the rest of the show. See you tomorrow. Buddies.