Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - WHAT A GAME!! | FN Barn Burner - September 12th, 2023

Episode Date: September 12, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:14 Well, hey, buddies, how we doing on a, well, for most of us, in most cases, a wonderful Tuesday. Good to have you along in the program. It's boomer, it's Warner, it's Pinder. As we get into Barnburner here from the Tower Chrysler Studios, Tower Chrysler 10-901 MacLeod Trail South, Tower Chrysler.com Consumer Choice Award winner. Calgary's favorite Chrysler Dodge dealer. I was doing the old with Serge last night. both playing catch up weren't there for the start of the game got catching up as we go it's quite a game has it turns like three minutes and i missed uh the biggest you miss a little
Starting point is 00:00:54 miss a lot yeah no question about it no question about it so here in the tower cries of studios as we get underway today i was thinking you know we've talked about this we've used this kind of analogy or comparison before that sports is kind of like a lover oh you know you're infatuated with with somebody your whole world revolves around them and then every once in a while they treat you they treat you so badly and they do things to upset you so much that you couldn't believe they would do that to you yeah but you have it in your heart to take them back again you know what it's going to be different this time this time it's going to be different I'm
Starting point is 00:01:34 going to be better you're going to be better we're going to be better together this big things are coming for us and then that evil tempteress just as soon as he or she, I should say, you know, just as soon as he or she has you back and you feel like, man, we've, we've really got it this time. Then they screw you. They go behind your back. They screw you yet again. Yesterday we were talking. It was Jack and his Steelers.
Starting point is 00:02:05 How could they do it? Jack took it right and, you know, Giants fans were crushed after the Sunday nighter. Seahawks fans, but hurt, Chargers fans, shock. Yeah, there was a lot of it. Yeah, there was a lot of it going around. A lot of, a lot of sports teams screwed around on their fans. Yeah. The latest, the Buffalo Bills.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Good morning, Red. We're used to it. It's okay. Nothing new. It's not. Just another. We've been through it before. Just another Monday.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Yeah. Hmm. People are, yeah, Pinder were talking, and before the show, some great teams still, full of hopes and dreams. Nothing to see here. There's a routine loss. One, but there's still a team.
Starting point is 00:03:00 They're still a contender, right? A little slip-up, not again. Yeah, forgive and forget, Dean, right? Get to, you know, get to overtime after a doink and in off the outright. Holy. Bassmaster, Rhett, your boy. Bassmaster General. Yeah. What a game. Pro. For those that missed it, it had a lot and we'll walk through it.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Let's hear how it sounded Jackie Boy on this is the radio call. The New York Jets radio call. They've dubbed it over the TV feed. Here's how it sounded in New York in overtime. The bills couldn't get there. You see it. Fourth and 12, Josh Allen and the offense, ineffective punting away to the Jets. Getting away a line drive kick of Sam Martin. Gibson runs under it at the Jet 35. Starts to his left. Gets to the 40. Turns the corner. At the 45. 50. Black was in front. At the 40. At the bill's 30. Inside the 20. Stutter steps to the 10 to the five. Touchdown.
Starting point is 00:04:03 It's a jet touchdown. This game is over. What a way to end Monday night football. Gibson's going to take this one. Back 63 yards for the touchdown. Retro, at what point did you know he was making it to the house? Right about now. That's the psyche of a Bill's fan. This is the Music City miracle all over again. I think on the TV, they referred to it as a low kick.
Starting point is 00:04:36 And I'm like, well, that never is a good thing on a punt. Coverage. He was, and there are hard knocks too, Dean. I don't know if you watched it. Like, Star is probably too strong. But like, he was a character everyone loved. He was this undraft. There's two undrafted rookie wide receivers that they spent a lot of time talking about.
Starting point is 00:04:53 They both made the team. And it was, it was kind of, if you watch that series, you're like, that's the guy. Yeah. That's the guy. Xavier Gibson. Now, Jack, if you can roll it without the sound, the punter really didn't do a lot to put himself in harm's way. Now, whether it's a low kick or a high kick or a deep kick or whatever, I get it. You try and make a play.
Starting point is 00:05:20 And there are some other guys in blue here who certainly could have made a play. But as it's down at about the 10. Where are you going? Yeah, where are you going? It's really, they've flooded now. There you see at about the 15. Oh, he jumps and pushes his arms out. He does the jump and shove.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Here it is. Oh, dear. Oh, man. When you're a returner and you just see the kicker, you're like, yes. I just get to have a matter anywhere. No, it didn't matter because the field goal wins it at that point. But I love the coaches in there. I love it.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Coach first guy in there. Bob Salah. I'm a fan of this Sean Merc Dermott. You can get your papers and leave down. Okay, so let's start from the Bill's fans perspective. There's a few things to dig at. number one in the shit list. We're going to do a bold
Starting point is 00:06:14 predictions and I've got a beauty for the bills. Did we note the biggest news of the game yet or is that just... No, it's coming up. It's coming up. It's coming up. Because I thought I wanted to get the bills side of things. I don't know if it's McDermott or Allen. I mean, it's easy to say both. They're supposed to
Starting point is 00:06:32 kind of be the kingpins of this hole. Who runs the offense? Does McDermott... No, not McDermott. Yeah. Okay. I didn't think so. because I was this fucking defense against the Jets and the other guy. No, they held them to 13 points and 60 minutes. So I mean, I thought they were better than I thought they'd be. Do you have a certs or something going?
Starting point is 00:06:53 Have you got a lozange on the go there, retro? Well, you're just smacking and disgust, I guess. Josh Allen, 29 to 41, 236, a touchdown, three interceptions, a fumble. Two fumbles, one, they managed to get back. I just put a I just put a shot into the folder there, Jack. I think I renamed it. There was the one snap where it's a decent snap. And Alan grabs it, but drops it, then picks it up again and then kind of is tackled,
Starting point is 00:07:27 but runs into his own guy and the ball goes down again and then it's recovered by the Jets. This is a good one. It's always fun watching along on Twitter or X, I suppose. As games go along and things happen, there was a guy who was a former NFL quarterback who was familiar with fumbling the ball at about the line of scrimmage. Mark Sanchez, is it in there, buddy, or did I not get it in there? I got it. You got it. Let's take a look.
Starting point is 00:07:57 So Mark Sanchez, of course, former Jets quarterback. But fumbler. He of the butt fumble fame had a little reaction. Josh Allen just ran into his own guy and fumbled. Weird. Good sense of humor. Yeah. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:08:19 If you can't laugh, what do you got? But for Alan, it wasn't just, I mean, it was a lot. He didn't really look comfortable. Now, we've, everybody's talked about it. This Jets defense and everybody's talked about Cowboys after Sunday night, but the Jets defense is regarded as one of the best in football. Certainly the secondary. Those guys, unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:08:39 T lines the best in football for sure. Man, they. they gave Alan fits last night, Red. He didn't look comfortable at all. Did he give himself fits? Because a lot of those throws were not. He didn't look good. No.
Starting point is 00:08:57 The other thing is, you're up early, and the Jets have nothing going on. It is three and out after three and out for Zach Wilson. Why are you throwing into double coverage downfield? Thank you. You are not going along slow drive, dumping it. Like, don't get greedy here. Where was the patience for this Bill's office?
Starting point is 00:09:18 But that's what they've been criticized of all along, right? They can't. Their drives are never drives. They score points and the numbers are unbelievable, but they don't. They swing for the fences a lot, right? He's going to be a risk reward quarterback. He turns it over a bunch because he throws a lot of balls way up there and says, go get it, Diggs and others.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Most turnovers by a QB in the last five years. And again, I do think we're going to, look back at the end of the year and be like, yeah, that Jets defense was the best defensive football by a mile and we can hang them up next to some of the great defenses we've seen ever. I think they're that. To Rutt's point, though, it wasn't all just, obviously you take what you're given, but it was some of the decisions that were made that weren't necessarily because he was under intense pressure.
Starting point is 00:10:04 It was just play selection. Well, even, even you can laugh about it because he doesn't get hurt, but when he runs the ball and doesn't run out of bounds early on, stupid. He's cutting into contact rather than stepping out. Be smart. Long season. Go tries jumping up, exposing it. Like, it's, it's childish, childish stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:26 It's rookie stuff and it's dumb stuff. And it will catch up to you, right? Like you get banged around, the more you get banged around, the more chance you got getting hurt. And that's the whole point is that some of the decisions are just terrible. They're terrible. It's not, I'm a gun slinger and I'm going to, No, you're immature.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And you're irresponsible and you're immature. And you know what? He is accountable. Here was Josh Allen, obviously. Hey, can I stop you again? We've heard this fucking spiel as Bill's fans over and over. He's always accountable. Yeah, Walt, stop being accountable and don't turn the ball over so often.
Starting point is 00:11:09 So here he is being accountable, Josh Allen. There to go. Yeah, trying to force the ball. Really? Yeah, same shit. Same place, different day. Better days ahead, retro. Probably.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Remember how last season started? They went in and stomped the Super Bowl. Yeah, they played the Thursday opener against the defending Super Bowl champs. They stomped them 3110, and then they completely dismantled Tennessee with, you know, Derek Henry, accomplishing very little, 41 to 7. And it was like the bills are on top of the world. The bills are favorite to win the Super Bowl. The bills are the team to beat. And I agree there's some issues here and they're not a perfect team.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I also think that just like you probably would have been overreacting two years ago or two weeks in last year, it's probably an overreaction to a loss too that really like they're right there. Wilson had one drive of the ball regulation, right? Sorry? Sure. It's always only one game. It's always. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:20 That's the beauty of a team sport. It's one game. Basketball, it's one game. Football, it's hockey, one game. I don't know if I see a fatal flaw here is kind of what I'm saying. Like there's the best teams in the league have weeks where they. Turns the ball over too much. He did last night for sure.
Starting point is 00:12:38 No, he does it too much, Ryan. When it's five years of combined numbers and he has the most turnovers in the league. Yeah. That's not a one game issue. No, I get it. But there's guys like, that that have won Super Bowls too. Like Stafford's been a guy that's too loose with the ball.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Tell me that that defense is good enough to win you. The team could. The defense suppressed me more than anything last night to be honest. So why would you think that they're better than the fucking jets? Like they split with the Jets last year. I'd expect they split with the Jets this year. I mean, like it wouldn't be crazy to think they could beat that team. Is it?
Starting point is 00:13:12 But does that win you, is that make you a Super Bowl content? So I just looked at the odds today because they adjust every day. They're fourth in the entire NFL for Super Bowl odds. They're 10 to one. Ahead of them, Kansas City, San Francisco, Philly. I get that they're not perfect. Philly had a pretty unexpiring week one after getting up 16-0. I don't know if they kicked into the neutral.
Starting point is 00:13:31 San Fran was dominant. Casey lost and they're still Super Bowl favorites. I think I'd have Cincinnati maybe ahead in spite of what happened to them in week one. Sure. Since he should be in that group there, that's fair. Dallas is right there. But what I'm saying is like if you're going to overreact, week one overreactions are usually the worst because we're looking at the smallest sampler.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And I get what you're saying that there's a bigger picture issue. with Allen. But it doesn't mean this team can't win. Like, I'm just not really there. I think there's a lot of weapons. And the team is pretty good. I think we've said we're disappointed with the decisions of Allen and McDermott and how they continue to do the same thing over and over.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I don't think anyone said let's, that they can't win any games. No, I mean, like that they're super. But when does the learning start, Ryan? In the playoffs, there's a switch that you can flip.
Starting point is 00:14:15 No, I'm not suggesting that. I mean, I think there's been lots of games or Alan doesn't turn over the ball. and looks like he's a really smart decision maker and he looks mature. That last night wasn't one. So you hope you get three of those in the row.
Starting point is 00:14:25 You don't follow the bills. I was going to say I. Because I follow the bills. No, I get it. But I'm saying the sports books that aren't emotional, it's all of and forth. Like that's, that's something.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Okay. Great. Great fucking game, bills. I guess I should have come on cheerier. No. And high five in Allen for five turnovers or whatever the hell it was. Like, what do you,
Starting point is 00:14:45 then let's not talk about the game. No, absolutely talking about it. Like I was the one of this, why you throw it in double coverage. Like that, there was some weird decision making, and I think you're probably closer to the like, what the hell's happening with decision making on the offense,
Starting point is 00:14:56 blah, blah, blah, but the D was supposed to be their weak spot. They, they really couldn't, I mean, aside from a couple of briefs-all runs, they look really good and it's up for one drive. Yeah, but against two.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Against an offense that had the rookie of the year, two good running backs. And I mean, the jet's, really, Ryan, this is your defense is that, that offense is dialed in with what happen. No, no, absolutely not that, but that's a good team. You are saying it.
Starting point is 00:15:23 That's a good team. They held to 13 points. That's all in regulation, right? Not with the quarterback that they had. It's not. You mentioned the quarterback. That is probably the overriding, big story. The bills will play another game and they're, you know, all of that. For the Jets, and I was reading this morning, and it's guys, you know, the Adam Schafters of the world, guys that cover the game. And has there has there been a bigger disappointment, a bigger buildup to immediate near immediate disaster than what we saw with Aaron Rogers? Hard knocks, New York City, Green Bay, franchise player, everything that it's around going to a new team four plays in and is done for the season. there's maybe never been a bigger buildup and near instant collapse ever than what we saw last night.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It was confirmed this morning, Aaron Rogers, his Achilles tendon. It's severed and he is done. Here is, I took the liberty. I slowed it down. Oh, thanks, Dean. And gave it a, so you can play it, Jack. You'll watch here because it gets zoomed in on. you can see the exact
Starting point is 00:16:46 pwing pwing oh little guitar string in there shpong so there it is that is
Starting point is 00:16:58 the ruptured severed Achilles of 40 year old Aaron Rogers so yeah so then Zach Wilson goes in
Starting point is 00:17:07 the Milf Hunter goes in and leads the jets to a victory was he I've never seen milf prey I don't remember
Starting point is 00:17:15 that one once Well, it's a fine line, uh, yeah, pender because maybe he's playing possum. He's pretending, eh? You know, I was going to take my hat off. I don't have one. And you're at you got cans on. But I mean, tip of the cap at the very least to the guy who apparently, allegedly banged his mom's friend. Well done.
Starting point is 00:17:37 It's one thing. Is that his move? What's the signature for Zach? It's one thing to get into the milf territory as a young lad. but when it's somebody that's friends with mum that is next level that's
Starting point is 00:17:54 like does the friendship continue are they getting together in the summertime at the lake hey uh you know so on we're going we got the pontoon boat all loaded up we're going oh is uh is jenny coming Zach does jenny have a son no listen no
Starting point is 00:18:12 anal on the pontoon oh Jesus if I've told I've told you once, I've told you, no, no finger-bagging on the pontoon. So yes, now the question is, is it going to be the Milf Hunter or do they look? And of course, Bob Sala and everybody, oh, hey, this is, yeah, this is Zach's team. He was first-round draft pick, but this is Zach's team. All right, it's what you got to say today.
Starting point is 00:18:37 That's what you got to say. Carson Wentz's name has come up. Oof. James Winston's name has come up. Tom Brady's name has come up. So James Winston is on the roster in New Orleans or a free agent? I'm trying to remember. He's on the roster.
Starting point is 00:18:55 He's on the roster, but yeah, he would be available. They got a car there. That makes sense. Okay. What about TB 12? Look pretty good in New England on the week. Do you see him sprinting down the field? Doing laps before they lost, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:11 His face is still all gaunt and shit. He's all lean and stuff. He's in great shape. You never worry about him getting out of shape. He's kooky too. So you won't. New York City, TB 12. How long would it take?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Just manage the game. The defense, as you said, Peter, defense is dynamite. You got great running back. Just banish this shit. I would love to see it because it's, it's New York and it's the Jets and it's tremendous. Is that old line good? No, that's the biggest weakness on the Jets in my opinion. And I think that was the big concern.
Starting point is 00:19:47 And if you watch Hard Knocks, that was the group that took it in the teeth. It's like the only thing holding. us back from a championship is this group. That was kind of how it was phrased bluntly with rhythm and they're like, oh boy. And it's a 40 year old. You got to protect him. And you got running back. But you were doing that with Rogers anyway.
Starting point is 00:20:02 It's not like it'd be a ton different. And I'm saying that's their weakness. And I don't know, like I think for peak NFL script and theme or like drama, like hell yeah, that's the move. I just probability wise, I feel like that's such a long shot. Like it takes a long time for these guys to soak up offenses.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Tom's retired twice already. I hate to be the The web blank, I just don't see it, really. I'd love it last year. I'd love to see it. I don't know if it will. He played last year. He's one of the Biong. It's the owner of the Jets.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Are you? Yes. Woody? If you're Woody. Yes. If you're Woody Johnson. The buildup's pretty big here. Netflix,
Starting point is 00:20:40 Netflix might pay half the salary. Oh, yeah. You imagine. Oh, my God. It would be so good. I'm with you. It's a hell of, of a dream though, isn't it? It's a hell
Starting point is 00:20:52 of a dream. And it's probably more probable than the likelihood of Aaron Rogers going down on the four snap ever outside of Green Bay. So, I mean, it's definitely a non-zero probability. Is he done? Oh, yeah, done for the season. No, the bad question is, yeah, because he will take a, you'll be probably
Starting point is 00:21:08 close to a year to get back to yourself. Then you're 41. I think that has to be a real quandary for him. Is this it for me? Or do I put in an incredible amount of work in the hopes that something like this doesn't happen again in a year. But is he going to come back and be a backup?
Starting point is 00:21:29 No. Fight for a number one job? Like what team is going to look at him at his age coming back from a severe leg injury and say, yeah, here's the reins and the money that it takes to sign a guy to a contract to be the number one? I think the Jets would instead of the mill hunter. But no, to your point, it's like there's, you know. you don't want to come back at 80% if you're 41.
Starting point is 00:21:52 You've got to get to, you know, 100% Rogers. And then I don't think you're going to have as much money on the tail because there's more risk there. You see a 40-year-old lose a season. You're like, yeah, durability's going to be an issue here. I just wonder for him, you know, with there's a legacy and there's your. Yeah, but do you want your legacy to end like that or do you have to come back to fix your legacy? Boy, but could it end worse, right? If you come back after a rehab and you aren't, you, that's not the mind.
Starting point is 00:22:20 set of most elite level athletes right like if it really isn't yeah right like well you would yeah i mean you'd have to wait until only you would know how you feel when you come back after a rehab like that and those suck hey yeah a rehab like that where you're 40 41 team moves on without you there's a lot of probably better than yours or well i suppose i i guess what i mean is you're just disconnected you're all in your own it's a high hype that's a high that's a high was built up. I don't give a shit. He's had a great career and he didn't have to go to New York, but there was a lot of buildup there. Well, rightfully so, because it was like Wilson was such a dud and you look at the weapons and you look at that defense and you're like, shit, that's the missing piece. I mean, I think I'm with you, though, I need some work. But like, that was the one piece where you're like, if you just had good quarterback play, like Garrett Wilson won offensive rookie of the year with three dusters throwing him the ball. Imagine if you had a Hall of Fame quarterback, go hang a banner. That was sort of logic, right?
Starting point is 00:23:23 Imagine what kind of fucking nutbar medical solutions he's got cooked up. We're going to boil some tangled root and nut bar because your approach. Oh, here it is. There it is. This would be your approach. Rice, rest, ice, compression. There it is. Elevation.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Rice. Let's have some rice. I saw the thing last night. Somebody had taken the side. They put the two screens up side by side. One's Aaron Rogers. The other one's Joe Rogan. He's like, listen, I got something for you.
Starting point is 00:23:56 He will have you back in six weeks, tops. Don't worry. I got a guy. I got a thing. It's going to be great. That's the Netflix show we need. The Joe Rogan Clinic? No, the Aaron Rogers is back in six weeks medical experiment.
Starting point is 00:24:13 You know what, though? Whether you like the Jets or you don't like the Jets or anything, I just as a as a fan, it sucks that he's gone because there was going to be some amazing storylines with him this year. And it's just not the same. The only saving grace is if Tom does. Tom, save us, Tom. Thomas, let's go.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Tom, come on in. I will say this. If you're going to play an underdog story for the Jets, which was hard to do, you know, a day ago, now you've got it. Now this bumbling, screwed first round pick has the weight of the world on his shoulders. I mean, it really does set up. Like, I feel like everyone's kind of rooting for the Jets now. If you don't have any rooting interest in that division already,
Starting point is 00:24:54 but like it would be cool to see this kid that's kind of been discarded, turn this thing around. Yeah. No thunder. Kind of neither here nor there with them, to be honest. Well, yeah, I just think like that's, that's a story everyone's going to be following, right? Like, that's, that's one of the bigger stories in the NFL now is how does this kid deal with this? Do you like his chances?
Starting point is 00:25:17 No, but that's why it's the underdog story, right? I don't think he's a good quarterback. I don't like watching hard knocks. You're like, this guy likes himself too much. And this guy doesn't realize how he comes off towards others. Interesting. At least that's sort of the vibes I got where Rogers is the subdued,
Starting point is 00:25:31 steady veteran. He's like, hey, hey, hey, did you like that throw? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:35 that was me that threw it. And so I, like, I think it's, I think if a jet's games on, no one's turning away right now. I might turn away. If it's,
Starting point is 00:25:46 because I just think it's going to be bad football. They're going to have to win low scoring, boring games, are they not? It's just going to have to be grinded out. Hey, maybe the time away I just don't see it. The legend of Rogers could be his tutelage for four or five weeks,
Starting point is 00:26:04 right? There you are. So the final game is done. That allows us to take a look at our Barnburner Betway point spread picks. Oh, baby. Retro Pinder, myself, and Jack.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Old Jackie boy. We put our, well, sort of put our money where I'm on this. You know, either way, we put our picks down last week with the Monday nighter now in the books. We get to see who's God bragging rights from week number one. Let's get at it. Let's take a look at who, who knew what they were doing. Who, who, because this week when we put our picks in, who do you, where's the faith? Where do you put it in?
Starting point is 00:26:45 Look at this boom. The Betway, Barnburner, point spread picks, Green Bay, Shook. Green Bay was a thing. Well, they were plus one. Chicago was favored. They went outright either way, so it does not matter. Cleveland. Got two points at home.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Got two points at home. They cover in the Chargers. I had them as three point favorites at home to Tua. And Tua put it right in my took us. Four point lead late for the Chargers. I was like, can this hold on? Can they hang on? They could not. So I wondered if it was the seventh lead of the day that they could hold on to, but it was a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah. It was a lot. So a two and one start for week one for myself. Uh, we move on the picks for retro had the bills as always. So close. So close. That is an ignorant move. Oh, that's court.
Starting point is 00:27:35 What's on the game? What's it's ignorant there? I don't know what's ignorant. Come on. It's a buffalo two and a half point favorites they do not cover. Dallas cruises. Yeah, that was good. A 40 to nothing win.
Starting point is 00:27:47 You are going to cover that three and a half point spread. and the Eagles, not entertaining, but they get by New England, retro covers the minus four. So a two and one start for Mr. Warner. That was a very tight finish with New England and Philly. That was wild at the end.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Pender! Drinking the jack Kool-Aid. Yeah. I'd seen too much of the jack cam. I just needed to really just, my, I, yeah. You took the Steve.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Steelers and the points. It did not work out well. San Fran Cruz to victory there. Tennessee getting points plus three. That's a cover. And Tampa Bay, getting five and a half they outright beat the Vikings. So a two and one start for you as well.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Look at us. Starts. Good starts, fellas. Good starts. Not bad. And then Jack. What about the rookie? Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Had the Steelers, which we know did not work out. Took the Bengals. They were not good. They were awful in week one. not they were favored in Cleveland. And then also Philadelphia, squeaking out a
Starting point is 00:28:55 four, well, squeaking out a win, just enough for a four point spread win. So a one and two start for Jackie boy. Look at Kenny there. Look at Kenny. Now, is there drama with Picket and Pickens? What's going on? Jack is sending me all these Steelers
Starting point is 00:29:11 updates. I feel like nobody cares. That's the thing. It's good though. This is good. Pickens. Pickens isn't happy, apparently. Apparently. Jack, what's a story? from Steeltown apparently Pickens doesn't like his quarterback Yeah he liked
Starting point is 00:29:25 Someone commented on one of his photos After the game that No one can get him the ball And he liked it So like the comment Can't go liking comments Not today not in 2023 Yeah
Starting point is 00:29:36 A little bit of drama Some injuries too Yes Deonté Johnson a few weeks And then someone's got surgery What about Fryer? How was How about the muth
Starting point is 00:29:48 He'll be good. He'll be all right. The mute is dinged, but the mute will be running next weekend. The Deontay thing's not insignificant. No, and that's a big piece because you need some other people, not just pickings. Like, who else are they going to throw the ball to now? They traded Claypool last year. Like that really hurts the receiver depth. Claypool sucks.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Fair, but who do they have now? Alan Robinson. Yeah, old man. So someone will push that wheelchair around. That's good. Right, good. So the depth again, an issue. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:30:22 There you have it. Those are our Betway. Barn burner point spread picks will have our next round coming up on Friday. Back to the bills regardless, retro. Got to do it. Cowboys. It'll help the spread. They'll be their fourth to win the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah, their fourth. That lost week one, that'll help the spread for week two. And they got a cocky Raiders group coming in with Jimmy G. Cockey. cocky. Oh, cocky. Get the Betway up and your phone. Play along.
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Starting point is 00:31:16 yeah. Picks, fantasy, and nearly the bills. Yeah. And the Bassmaster, what was going through your heart when you saw that hit the upright because it's rare to see the doinck and through most most doinks don't go through I didn't know what to think
Starting point is 00:31:31 it was so frustrated and drunk and high and hello yeah how's a shoveler taking it oh dear she's not giving up the quarterback no I know she's got faith big fan
Starting point is 00:31:51 oh yeah well he's single I thought that was the difference this year right you were telling us that a week ago. Maybe he needs to. Single Josh Allen Swagger. I saw no swagger in that press conference. That guy looked like someone shot his dog. He looks like he needs some loving.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Yes. Someone's got to put their armor on that kid. Yes. He needs some Buffalo love. Buffalo has given him plenty of love. And he is not rewarding the faithful. Do you remember when Ricky Romero stopped dating Miss Universe? As a Blue Jays fan, I do, because he went from an all-star to
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Starting point is 00:33:26 news we have new jersey numbers for players which I believe this is a pike bomb Dinae accidentally Pike bomb Pike bomb it's a pike bomb It's a pike bomb pipe bomb pipe bomb Pyke bomb pike Uh Yigore Sharon Govich can wear number 17
Starting point is 00:33:41 Like that he is How could they do that to Lance Balma Honestly please Rennie Bork is pissed Rennie is livid He's up in lack of lbish No Colonna Son of a bitch cursing and swearing
Starting point is 00:33:54 That's my number I don't know who used to wear 82, but that's probably appropriate for Jordan Austerly, who is your seventh defenseman to start the season, although former Junior Saber, Denny Gilbert, or Dennis Gilbert may have something to say about that. We liked him last year. He was feisty.
Starting point is 00:34:14 He was feisty. And again, let's keep in mind, this is a team that is looking at a Noah Hanofan deal at some point. If you like one of Austerley or Gilbert in the lineup on a third pair was Zadarov, you got room to make a move. Now, you said deal. Do you mean a contract extension? No.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Noah Hanofan, I believe, informed the club this summer that he does not have any intentions of resigning in Calgary when he becomes a free agent on July 1, 2024. Time can change, we can only change our minds. It heals all wounds. It does. Yeah. We'll seal those wounds heal. And I'm not discounting that at all. I thought that was a pinder bomb.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I thought you had a pinder bomb there. No, no, just what we all know already. I'm sure that things could change, but the latest public note we have from Hanofin, not happening here. So we'll see if that changes or not. Either way, Connie, it's his job. He's got to be doing this.
Starting point is 00:35:07 You've got to work the phone. See what guys are worth. Let's go, Connie. It doesn't work phones when we phone them. It doesn't call you back, eh? What's up with that? Yeah, return your text, Conroy. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Thomas Tatar's got a deal. We mentioned his name yesterday. What if the kids are no good? You call Thomas Tatar. Well, not anymore. Thomas Tatar has been called. Maybe the abs kids were no good. Million and a half.
Starting point is 00:35:28 That is, how does this go wrong? I asked that on Twitter and I got like, what if he murders the whole team or throws the earth into a black hole? Like really, aside from those two outcomes, I don't see how this goes poorly. You just, it doesn't work. That's almost 100% variable in the age. Oh, that's a good deal right there, fellas. And they got a ton of dough because of the LTIR situation with what's his name there, Lantis cog. So they can, hey, spend it.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Yeah. Good, good depth there. good signing there and how about this red i told you one of your boys one of your guys one of your guys sons a little recognition you've been saying it for a while adam lowry a leader how much a leader the captain of the winnipeg jets nice pick by the jets i'm actually annoyed with it much deserved been trying to pry him out of there i want to get him out of there yes hey connie there's this guy named adam lowry he happens he's the son of Dave Lowry. Yeah, yeah, I know, right.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Thanks. He's a captain. Well, when they trade Hella Buck, they're going to need a goalie retro. So you can get, then you can get Markstrom in there. Right. Yeah. I feel bad for Lauer. I haven't living in frickin' Wittipake this whole career.
Starting point is 00:36:41 It's not ideal. He likes fishing and cold weather. So that's, I like that decision in terms of what you've said and what others around the team, how they talk about Laurie, watching playing the playoffs. Like, he just seems like that kind of guy that should have a letter. also in the mix would have been Josh Morrissey, the Calgary who had an outstanding season last year. And I think it's turned into a really, really, really good defensemen in this league.
Starting point is 00:37:03 And by this news, we can make no other conclusion other than he must be a bit of an asshole. That's Dean's take. Dean hates Josh Morrissey. And we'll move on to the football segment of the program, fellas. We've got the, when it's, remember the montageist when guys had come back and they'd be like, here was Val Burray the flame or you know Johnny thank you and they show all the highlights
Starting point is 00:37:27 we have our Aaron Rogers Jets montage. Hope you enjoyed it. It was shorter than we thought. He's got the flag. Yeah, there he is. Look at this, eh? On September 11th, look at this guy.
Starting point is 00:37:42 American flag. Savior has come to save this dump of a franchise. So much hype. The D's already there. You got weapons on offense. We just need a damn quarterback. There he is, folks.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And let's smoke some dubies with South's gardener. That was it, folks. That and four snaps and the season was over. Yeah. Dean showed you the slow-mo Achilles pop. Thank you for that. You're welcome. Injury porn.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Gross. And it's over. I'm sorry about that. Are we to dig deep into this, not the injury or Rogers? September 11th in New York City, respectful or disrespectful or indifferent to host a football game on that day. I think we saw the parley yesterday.
Starting point is 00:38:31 That was definitely disrespectful. I think honoring the frontline workers of 9-11 on 9-11 during a sporting event would be okay. Maybe you don't do sports a day. They have for a long time. We're what? 20-some-odd years out now. Have they done it in New York? I hadn't thought about it.
Starting point is 00:38:50 My initial reaction would be able to be able to. But he brought it up. I was sitting at the bar. This guy sitting beside me brought it up. I don't think they should be playing today. Well, I'll defer to him. He's an American. He's American.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Living in New York State. Yeah, there's more than we do about that. I'm just a fat, loudmouth in Calgary. Cooke. And this Harry know it all here got to see Robert Sala's face when all this went down. Because if you saw Hard Knocks, there was a lot of talk about how special Aaron Rogers is and how that might change everything for the Jets. Here's the moment he saw
Starting point is 00:39:27 what he saw, which was Aaron Rogers' season ago. And below is a piece of art called Self Portrait in Hell by Edvard Munch in 1903. There's someone that does famous sports photos and famous old art pieces. And that's just about what Robert Sala is feeling, the self-portrait in hell. I love that he was right in there at the end though.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I'll tell you what, he is he's well moisturized. That's not a guy with dry complexion. He's well. East Coast. Lots of humidity. That's true.
Starting point is 00:40:02 That's what it is. Yeah. Lots of humidity. You can't explain that to people. They haven't experienced it, right? It's just you got to be there to understand it. There's a sheen on them.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Boy, that's tough. Your whole off season, all those, like, how many hours has this guy spent scheming with Aaron Rogers under center? God. Four plays.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah. Yeah, self-portrait in hell. There he is. We'll move. Here is a Jets fan watching this happen live. His wife is filming. There's a little dialogue. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Let's all be quiet. Speaking of art. Are you crying? No, I'm fucking pissed. You don't know a journey. You don't know. There's the face palm's good here. The other underrated part, there's a little giggle from the wife.
Starting point is 00:41:03 He completely ignores her. But the best part, if we can listen to it again, you don't know the judge. journey. If we have easy. It's fun. Are you crying?
Starting point is 00:41:11 No, I'm fucking pissed. You don't know a journey. You don't know. These. Yeah. If we have another lost season for the Calgary Flames like we did last, because it felt like that, didn't it? It was like a death march the last three months.
Starting point is 00:41:29 They're losing to Chicago, being idiots. No. Sorry. At the end of that video, I was, I was more focused on what was on the side table there. It looked like you had a nice little tumbler of whisk. Oh, yeah. And it was that like some sort of an inhaler? Like in case he was hyperventilated or something,
Starting point is 00:41:42 it looked like he had some sort of a inhaler or some A puffer. Some sort of puffer sitting on the side table there. He's got a couple of fingers of scotch and a puffer. He definitely, yeah, it's about three fingers of scotch. And it looked like maybe it was some sort of a nasal spray, perhaps. He hurt him. He hurt him.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Yeah. He's done. Done with that. Caves need some work. Yeah. It's a vape? What's he got going on there? It's some sort of a...
Starting point is 00:42:14 Two remotes, three fingers a sketch, and a vape. It's game day, baby. There were videos from MetLife two nights ago. Similarly, Giants fans peeling off their jerseys and just tossing them to the ground and disgust. The American sports fan is another level. It really is. And so if we have another lost season for the Cowdery Fulins like we did last year, All we can ask you as loyal listeners slash viewers of the Barnburner podcast is that if you have someone in your life that operates like this in front of the television, please send us. Please send us the video.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Yeah, we need the overreacting. We needed the people watching Nazim Kadry's three turnover shift against Chicago in the last two weeks of the season in a must-win game. I'm fucking pissed. You're not on the journey? You don't know the journey? You don't know the journey? You don't know. Are you crying?
Starting point is 00:43:07 She didn't know the journey. Okay. How is she supposed to feel those layers of emotion when she doesn't know the back? You don't know the journey. She doesn't know. No, this is all weird. And, you know, four snaps. The only thing weirder would be if someone called it before it happened.
Starting point is 00:43:24 And so we go to Twitter. Yes, indeed. Two hours before the game, this donkey said this. Aaron Rogers is going to tear his Achilles on a rain-drenched MetLife turf in two and a half hours. And he was right. I believe actually Twitter has taken that down because you can see that millions of views. Over 10 this morning.
Starting point is 00:43:49 This was last night. It was 7.7 million views. And it was just some dude cracking on that turf is notorious for injuries around the NFL. The PA has taken issue with the league with it. The Niners moaned about it a few years ago. They had some ugly injuries there. Oh, Daddy Zazlov. Daddy knows.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Daddy Z. Yeah, he's obviously. He's got the NFL. all scripts. That's the thing, Dean. He's on the inside. Someone's leaking. He can be leaking the script. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:44:18 So that sucks. Here's what also sucks. If you're the Green Bay Packers, remember when you traded Aaron Rogers for a first? No, you didn't. He had to play 70% of the snaps. They get a second rounder now. Oh, dear. Now, that's not the end of the world.
Starting point is 00:44:33 It's just two draft picks better than first rounders, better than one first rounder. And, huh. I didn't think about that when that injury happened. Now here's the good news for Rogers. He goes down as one of the all-time greats in Jets' history. I don't know if you knew this. There's only three quarterbacks ever for the Jets that never lost the game.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Tim Tebow, two, and O. Aaron Rogers wanted to know as a starter and Dick Jameson. Oh, big Dick Jameson there, yeah. Big Dick Jameson who liked a few fingers of sketch. He finished his career one and O as well. Not bad. Tim Tebow. You talk about hype.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Oh, man. Holy Christ, I mean, that guy had unbelievable hype. Yeah. He'll hype in himself. He went to play baseball in the Mets organization. But he's still, is he doing college football? I think you see him a lot. You see him a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Well, he's, I mean, he's so dreamy. You know, he's good. Good looks, charm. Ripped. Now, here's an unfortunate situation. Imagine you had Aaron Rogers in fantasy, or if you made a bet on Aaron Rogers. Because sometimes what these gimmicky sports books will do is they'll say, oh, just a half yard.
Starting point is 00:45:47 That's all you need just to get you to put money in and then you're exposed to real bets. It's like a welcome bet. Aaron Rogers hit the under on 0.5 passing. Jesus. Some dope lost 100 bucks on that. That is pain. Speaking of pain, another fellow only needed 0.3 or 0.6 fantasy points. iahuascaholics was up on bayouc'd bejohn chicken by well down by point zero six points with
Starting point is 00:46:18 Aaron Rogers at the quarterback slot he resulted with zero points and you lost by point zero six that's the worst fantasy lost in history for these luts that's the team there so yeah oh well tough speaking of fantasy football fellas here's the standings week one media hacks football league look at this simply the brass second spot Antonio clown despite drafting two dead people sitting in third sitting in third stinking barn painters gets a win in week one new their dad not so hot out of the gates with an L that's me so there you are folks there's your power rankings of sports nerds right at the bottom by the way team two and on I don't know if you can see that that's our
Starting point is 00:46:59 Miami sports fan that's Derek wills of the flames broadcast yeah Eric Wilson, Derek Willis, Derek Willis. Is he partnering up with Lubos gone? I have not heard news on that yet. Birdie told me. Oh, really? The dog? Who you got?
Starting point is 00:47:21 You? Yeah, I'm going to go traipsing back in there. I'm sure they'd love to see my face walk through the door. Could you do all that travel? I feel like you'd be away. Oh, hey. All that travel, what, to the second floor boardroom? never mind. Sorry, I forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Draft Kings offered an apology. Remember they did the, you shouldn't be playing the game on the. How about you don't make stupid bets called the Never Forget Parley? Yeah. That's the apology. Yeah, we respect the significance of the day for our country and especially with the families of those who are directly affected. They said that, but they also did put up the Never Forget 9-11 Parley. Now, how many people would have seen that before they launch it on their app?
Starting point is 00:48:02 Because the moment we saw it, it was like, ooh. insensitive and we're just some dumb Canadians up here. How many, because how many people pass this along? Yeah, do this. Yeah, put this on, put this on. Are they also tone deaf? Is there no common sense? I guess I know the answer.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Common sense. Yeah, that's a big mistake. Because all the things they said that they believe and that they respect, they didn't with that bet. So, uh, that was just closing the loop on yesterday's horrible. And if I'm not mistaken, it would have done, it would have been a shitty bet because the giants got blown. out, right? What else was on that parley? That's one. I don't know what happened to the Yankees
Starting point is 00:48:41 and men. Yeah. Oh, well. Do you get your money back if you bet and lost? That would be the way. You're missing the point here, Dean. It really wasn't about that. That's how you would show me that you're really sorry, draft kings. Yeah, pay it back. Give it back. It's about you. Dicks. You know, one of these things ain't like the other ones. It was a tough day in New York for the Jets yesterday, losing our Roger, but it was a worst week one for the Giants in some regards. Here's Why? Jay Kuda with another banger. Have you scored yet this season? These graphs and charts that you have sometimes,
Starting point is 00:49:13 Spender, it's so hard to decipher. It's tough to sift through the data here. It's so hard. Giants have not scored. Oh, is that what it means? NFL has through week one. It's good. I believe that concludes the NFL segment of this program.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Is that correct, Jack? We don't have anything else. There's a lot there. I feel like it's a lot. A lot of memes, a lot of memes to get to. Cavalry FCs in action in Halifax tonight. Boys, I hope you were well-behaved last night. You can go party tonight and celebrate a win.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Four o'clock kickoff. Here's your watch parties. You go down to Kildare's alehouse down by Spruce Meadows or downtown at the ship and anchor. If you go to Kildare's, have the muscles and the garlic bread. Actually, outstanding kitchen there. I was very, very impressed. I didn't expect that necessarily.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Muscles are very good. And there you go. So that's the top of the table. Wanderers are in that mix for one of the four playhouse spots. and our boy Trent McClellan's going to be there cheering him on because of course he's out east again shooting 22 minutes. Funny man, Trent McClellan. Soccer fan, Cavs booster.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Finally, here's a video I found and I think it's funny. It has to do with karate, weightlifting, and an ambitious young idiot. Karate's a scam and I'm going to prove it. Excuse me? Are you master champ? I was wondering if I could challenge you in a fight. What? I became a bodybuilder at 9 after.
Starting point is 00:50:41 They're spending hundreds of dollars on martial arts and only advancing to a yellow striped white belt. I quit instantly after seeing kids I would demolish in battle promoted to black belt. And I trained myself every day to become more powerful than any martial arts master. Eight years later, I would become untouchable. The only way to prove it is cold hard combat. So I scoured the internet and found the martial arts grand master chain. Recently moved to California after instructing the Korean army over the past two years. So I began my journey to see me valley to humble all martial arts entirely once and for all.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Excuse me. I was wondering if I could challenge you in a fight. What? I want to prove that bodybuilding beats martial arts. I don't think... Let's see find out. Find out. I will give me up.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I will give it to your my speedier-pice. Are you serious? Yes. No problem. Do whatever you want. Okay. What size discrepancy here? Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Okay. I'm going to get in 50,000. But also in 90 days And we're trying to take those kids. Yeah. For those of you not watching, we're sorry. It didn't go well.
Starting point is 00:52:00 As expected. Nice little spinning back heel there, I think is what that was. It was lights out quickly for the young man. I do like his ambition, though, Red. He's, uh, yeah, he's going for it. I watched Anderson Silver break his leg yesterday. My kid's nearly puked.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Have you seen that one, Dean? That's a bad one. Yeah. That's like chin on shin? Where does he do it? I'm trying to remember that. Yeah, it was just a low kick and it wasn't much. And the guy checked it and it went.
Starting point is 00:52:26 It's like snapping a chopstick. It really whippy. It almost circled around. Yeah. Like an empty rubber boot. Yeah. Next. That's your Pender report.
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Starting point is 00:54:27 Just for, you know, send us a shot of what you're eating. Let's see what you're hammering there at Madrose Pub. Because we had more than one occasion numerous times. People would, oh yeah, here, we heard about the pizza. We came in. Here's the pizza. Boop. And it looks just like that pizza that's on your screen right now, as if it were a
Starting point is 00:54:45 professionally photographed pizza. Ah, mouse sweating. I'm starving right now. Delicious. A couple of things we wanted to, uh, to get out to you. Now, we talked to Jamie McLennan, former fames, flames, flames goaltender and goalie coach last week, two weeks ago. Where do we talk to noodles there, retro? I think it was last week.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Last week. Yeah, it was last week because we were being all lazy two weeks ago. Anywho, uh, noodles. Great guy. Great. Doesn't get much better to noodles. Hey, retro. Is there anybody that doesn't like Jamie?
Starting point is 00:55:21 Uh, uh, There was a bartender at one of the bars downtown a few years back. Other than that, I got, I got noodles from that one. Yeah. Anyway, Jamie was a guest on the Cam and Strick podcast. Andy Strickland, a great reporter. He kind of does it all. Writer, does some TV, does his podcast with Cam Jansen there in St. Loss.
Starting point is 00:55:49 And they had Jamie McClennan as a guest on the. the Cam and Strict podcast and they were talking about Calgary and the Flames and his relationship with Mika Kiprasoff, who of course is having his number retired this year. Mika Kipersoff, if people don't know, he's a recluse. Like he just doesn't talk to anybody. He doesn't respond to emails or texts or anything. He's just a very, very private person. You know, quick story, when Calgary was going to retire his number, I get a call from, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:23 flame the flames management and they're saying we need to get a hold of kipper and you know we know that he flushes people so i text them and i'm like dude i'm calling you tomorrow i need you to answer the phone and of course flush flush i call him the next day doesn't answer and then i write him another text i'm like i'm calling you tomorrow like this is after that you need to answer and so he answers he's like what's up nudla and i'm like hey like the flage claims need to get a hold of you. You can't flush the call. It sounds like it's something really cool and special. And he starts laughing. He goes, maybe I'll flush them for a month. And I go, don't flush them for a month. I go, so right away, the PR guy called and Kipper was over the moon. And obviously, they're retiring his number in March 2nd. And it's really cool. And I'll be there. Noodle. What's up? Nudla. Yeah. Don't flush. flush this call.
Starting point is 00:57:26 You're used to having your calls flushed. Everybody's flushing your calls. Hey, Iggy. What's going on? Conroy? Kip. Go on. I got to talk. I get to talk to you to every day. I don't need. That's true. What a privilege, eh?
Starting point is 00:57:38 Some of my exposure. Anyway, so, and you know what? That is Cam and Strick podcast. A very good lesson. Cam and Strick. We get to chat with Andy every once in a while. Always great into it. Wherever podcasts are sold. Yeah. Something like that. Now, I don't know a whole lot about this.
Starting point is 00:57:53 one, but this was another podcast. And I saw it kind of make, I saw it kind of looping through and I, but I didn't click on it. I haven't listened to it. Spitting chicklets, which is real reaction. Everyone knows spit and chicklets. Now, can you set this one up? Mike Babcock, year one in Columbus. And Paul Bissonette is telling, uh, some things he's overheard out of Columbus about the early Babs impression in the room. He's outrageous. I get a text from a player. He goes, have you. Have you. Have you? heard what Babcock is up to again. And I'm like, no. So he gets to Columbus. And one of the first things he does is he calls in Boone Jenner, the captain of the team. And he says, let me see the
Starting point is 00:58:36 photos in your phone. I want to know the type of person you are. What the f is going on? Is that, is that even legal? It feels like it's totally illegal. I want to get him on the podcast to grill him about his antics as a head coach. Like worry about the for check. Worry about your your personnel worry about getting the power play humming at an alarming rate so you might have a chicken dick's chance of sneaking in a wild card spot why do you want to see throbbing dick picks from your captain on his iPhone i don't understand this by the way if i was going into one of these meetings having heard all these stories prior i'm putting on like rocky quotes on my photos I'm putting on like my workout routine.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Oh yeah, you know what I would put on my phone? I'd be standing here in this chair with my bin staring him right in the eye with me holding my legs like this. What's wrong with this guy? Now, I hope this story is true because then we look like real big idiots, but I think that Mike Babcock should come on this podcast and clear the air as to why he wants to see pierce nipples from Instagram thoughts in his player's phones. spitting chicklets Bizz, wit, everyone knows it's the best one going.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Now, I mean, Biz, I think probably captured the spirit of it there. Is this? What you doing, Babs? What you're fired immediately. Babs, what the f? Is he, though? I don't know that you're not fired immediately,
Starting point is 01:00:07 but you're losing the room immediately. Yes, I agree with that, 100%. And they're just committed. Like, I don't know. It's kind of like the Bill Peterson thing for me. I didn't see a lot of contrition from this guy. I saw a lot of like biding time and waiting for the right spot and playing PR. Well, what was he supposed to show, sorry, because I don't even remember what he got fired for.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Was he because he was a bad coach or did he get fired? No, he got fired in Toronto because it was time for a new coach. I don't think it was any singular event. But then you started to hear about, okay, Mitch Marner, the rookie, come in and write down all your teammates in order of how hard they work in practice. And you're like, but again, that's not a- do whatever you want. Yeah, as a coach. But I just, it's awkward and weird.
Starting point is 01:00:44 But again, this is awkward and weird. Yeah. Why are you doing? Shit is what I'm saying. It doesn't feel like it's a different cat. And I mean, to elaborate for those that didn't hear, it was, it's one thing to bring in Mitch Marner, who's one of the leaders on your team and say, give me a list of who works hard in, in order.
Starting point is 01:01:00 And then showed it to the rest of the team. And basically pulled the rug out from under Marner in front of his teammates. What the, with that's, you would think, still fresh in your mind. Now you're, hey, give me. your phone. What would you do? What would you? Retro?
Starting point is 01:01:15 If somebody asked your coach. Well, this is what I don't get. Boone Jenner, I've said this about, fuck off. No. Yeah, I don't. The answer is no. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Right? Maybe that's what Babcock's. We're thinking he's going to hear. Maybe that's the test of, right? Like, I don't know. It's an awkward request. It's idiotic. the answer sitting across the table is absolutely not no sir these are not your images even still
Starting point is 01:01:48 wrong tactic babbs how percent could you could you try and win your team over another way or if if you're trying to have them galvanize themselves against you isn't it awfully early for the let's get them to hate me shit well here here's my thought if this is already leaked out he's already lost the room because if that was a mistake and he made amends for it we don't hear this exactly Hmm. Yarmel. So what are the odds like Columbus making the play?
Starting point is 01:02:18 You can bet on the first coach fired. It just would be quite something because I believe he got some term and some serious dough. I was just going to say, because didn't he wait until all the term was done on that leaf deal before he even sniffed around an NHL job?
Starting point is 01:02:31 They couldn't announce to the end of the June until he was entirely off the books of the leaves. I'm going to get myself a new guaranteed contract because this getting paid and doing nothing. nothing is way better than getting paid and having to do stuff. Oh, no, he was, he was down at the rink at the U of S. Oh, he was showing that he's, he's, he's, he's learning. He's getting with the kids, he's going to learn how to communicate with them, give it back.
Starting point is 01:02:54 His coaching job. Oh, he did that too. Whoops. Yeah. Now, if it's wrong, now, if, I tend to believe biz. It seems like an odd one to throw out there without any reason, right? I don't even know how you would make. that up if it weren't real.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Well, and that's why I think business inviting him on. He's like, there has to be some context we're missing here. This can't be right. And I think that's the right approach if you're busy. Say come explain your side because the angle that we heard is no good. Not ideal. And I guess if you're Columbus, it's like if that's an invasion of someone else's privacy, have you violated your terms of employment?
Starting point is 01:03:32 Who knows? Like it's what I was thinking. That has to be, that's a slippery slope, right? Now, for the sake of the conversation, if I were to ask you, what are the last five photos on your phone? If you were going to have to share the last five photos taken on your phone to share with the group, what would they be? Mine would be very boring because all it is is screen grabs of. Well, let's go to screen grabs and get kids. It's walking into school.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Do you want video or just picture? Oh, just describe what it is, yeah. My kid walking into school. Nice. Good dad. There's a picture of we were at a high school football game. Quality time. Blank shots.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And then there's the pictures from the meat raffle that I sent you, fellas. So those would be. Gotcha. Different meat raffle than the one Boone Jenner apparently had gone. Now, I did have a video pop up. you know you get those five years ago or six years ago in August we went to Cabot to
Starting point is 01:04:46 golf a bunch of guys and I had a funny video that I wouldn't want to get out pop up on that yeah share with class Jack and Jack do we have that video come back yeah jeez look out So Pender, uh, yeah. Dejected Josh Allen at the podium because I just looked so down and out. It's just show stuff, right? No, I just, I get rid of the show stuff because that's obviously all screenshots. It isn't going to mean. I got a ball glove I dropped off from another dad's house.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I got a picture of a bar. Where's this? I don't know that one. Uh, kids playing baseball. And my kid said he turned the lights off in the washroom. So I got two pictures in the washroom with the lights on that little turn. There it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:32 That's good. What about you, Jackie? you sick freak. Do we want to know? What do you got in your phone? You pervert. I got bullshit screenshots. Kenny Pickett, no tarp.
Starting point is 01:05:42 What's that all about? The last photo I took was all my Steelers gear, sent to Ryan before they proceeded to get blocked. Prior to the blowout. Oh, that was so good. It just, it all worked too perfectly for Jack, because he's just so keen and all that preseason hype
Starting point is 01:06:01 and, like, you've got young players. And there really is nothing more exciting than good. like a young elite quarterback. And maybe Kenny Pickett will be that. Maybe he isn't. But that is just, that's the best phase of the football fandom life cycle,
Starting point is 01:06:12 the good superstar young quarterback. And he wants to believe. And then they're good in the preseason. And then he's looking at all these Vegas. I was like, these is he'd still get it. Don't they know what I know? And then they completely fall in their face and get steamrolled.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And he's like, yeah, I might have fallen for the hype. It's like, so beautiful. I had a long off season. I was able to recalibrate my love for this squad. God. Yeah. I am doing it.
Starting point is 01:06:37 You know what I would love to do? And we can't do it on the fly like this is to go back to the Friday show. Yes. And have Jack's explanation of his Steelers pick and why this was going to be the year for Pittsburgh and how great this was going to go. I thought about this on Sunday night longer than I should have. And if you just had a buzzer and a ding sound, it would just be amazing to just listen to that 45 second jack off of, that's what we call it on the jack cam where he was. really hyping up the Steelers as this completely overlooked Super Bowl contender. I remember there was, he's like, oh, look at that.
Starting point is 01:07:13 The Chiefs, they're missing this guy. Kelsey's hurt and they got this holdout. It's now the Steelers conference. AFC's open. It's wide open. To be fair, the best teams in the AFC all lost. Cincinnati, Kansas City, Buffalo. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And so many people love the Niners. Hey, Jack. You may, the Steelers may have faced their toughest and most formidable fall of the entire year. Except that on Friday, he said the knife drove her blowing a purdy was no good. Well, you know, maybe he was a little off, but in hindsight now,
Starting point is 01:07:43 uh, it's as though preseason stuff almost doesn't matter. I have to do my weird prediction now because if I go a couple weeks without doing it, all right. The bills will be drafting a first, in the first round, a quarterback next spring. The Jordan love treatment.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Now, is this the, the judgment or no judgment prediction you want oh dear yeah tough and no hat oh man week one right don't overact too much just a little bit overreaction yeah it's all right i like it tough loss uh you were now did you get your uh the stuff done yesterday afternoon you were going to do there pender were you on did you make a little venture down to the south part of the city yes yeah i was down at south health health campus right across the street, outdoor dental there. We had Tan Man, we were ripping around, taking some videos.
Starting point is 01:08:41 May or may not have been a drone there, depending if you could get in trouble for a drone or not. You wouldn't. Probably not. Not around a hospital. Couldn't be bad things. No, no. No, no. There's no line in there or anything. And yeah, I got, I got lasers put in my, in my, my mouth, my face hole. So I have been describing
Starting point is 01:08:58 this sleep apnea treatment, the snoring treatment at outdoor dental for months. You have two, 15 minute treatments. It's a soft palate. He put some topical kind of numbing agent on there. And then this is it? Did we kind of nail it? Is that pretty much what to? So you're back in the dentist's chair.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Nice recline. It's a lovely brand new facility. Dr. Jay, wonderful dude, says hello, loves the show. Trying to figure out Rett's life decisions, as many of us waste too much time on. So when did you decide to go to Buffalo? Oh, that's anyway. We get in the chair. You get to put on the cool shades, the old grandma at the Saddle Dome shades.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I hate people that wear shades. Yeah, the ego. Worst. Boom cat. Thinking they're cool. And then, yeah, they get this laser thing and all you do is got to lay back, open your mouth, watch TV on the roof. Where you go? Pretty easy.
Starting point is 01:09:49 10, 15 minutes, she going. And then I go back in a month for my second one. And the tension in my soft palate. And by the way, fellas, Dr. Jay, all right. And you do have a larger than average, a long soft palate back there. So, you know, the second treatment will probably, you'll see more results after that. Shocking development. Did ask about the talking thing.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Said he could try. And I said, well, don't get too sexy with the laser. Just stick to the snoring. I would hate if Dr. Jay got in there and there was any kind of damage to your vocal cords or anything to have. Remember the sinus surgery I had? That was tough. We'll need that again.
Starting point is 01:10:27 You make a living with those pipes, Pender. I'd hate it if the smarm, I think, is where the living's made. Yeah, but. Yeah, I don't know. right. We need a little, can you do it a lobotomy with that laser? I think that's the only way we're getting, we're getting to your smarm. Um, we're detecting high, uh, smarm levels here.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Well, that's awesome. There you go. And again, check it out. Outdoor. Dental is the website. We're going to have that video coming up as, uh, we get to see firsthand what it looks like. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:56 And 15 minutes in and out. And if you do have dental insurance, most of this procedure is covered. A lot of people are shocked and thrilled to hear that when they walk in. Not exactly everyone, but. Most people with dental insurance will have most of this procedure coverage, which is great. Let's get Super Nintendo for the kids there too. A couple games in my R-A-3. Good stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Good stuff. I saw, before we go, I just wanted to give some love to the St. Eugene Golf Resort Casino. You know our buddy Haynes? Darren Haynes? Oh, yeah. Flames from 100 feet? 80. Whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Darren Haynes, long-time sports rater in our city. He did the, you know what? Summer's almost over. Getting some guys, we're going on a golf trip. We're going out to BC. we're going to hit some spots stopped in at st eugene the photos unbelievable really again believe what we're telling you take what we're telling you as gospel championship golf course resort casino spas beautiful hotel it's you know what there's nothing else kind of like it that hotel it's a
Starting point is 01:11:57 legendary hotel go to st eugene dot ca and check it out you've you may know what we're talking about with even knowing what we're talking about because i think everybody at one point at one point or another has seen a shot of that uh unbelievable hotel still time as hainesy will tell you firsthand get down there to cranbrook and book yourself in for some unbelievable golf got a fellas golf trip this weekend that i unfortunately are not able to attend the annual the big stupid one that uh you always make fun of me for going that's right yeah i'm going to miss it this year so there it's a lot of golf left in bc it's the warmer side of the rocky steen that's a tough for pindore Why do we make fun of you for that again?
Starting point is 01:12:36 Probably just any old reason. I don't really know. Probably because we made a name when we were in grade 12 and you think it was darky. Oh, is there a name for it? Yeah, that's right. I forget. I don't spend a lot. No, you don't.
Starting point is 01:12:48 No, you know what it is. It's a gentleman's annual golf poker and beer invitational. Come on, no. That's, I believe, it's year 23, 22. Mm-hmm. That's commitment, though. Yep, good for you guys. Except it's not gone.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Correct. Bad planning. Yeah. People shouldn't have got married that week. Fender is just, you know what? I feel like you're there early, you said. One little early. And what are you doing over there?
Starting point is 01:13:13 Not just going to be swinging by Denmark for a little bit, see if I'll. That's all. Buddies. Quick little. Just the globe is full of buddies. Best friend from high school. Let's go. Best friend.
Starting point is 01:13:25 100%. Would there be about 30 other guys that think they're your best friend from high school? Be like, what's he talking about? I thought we were best friends from high school. This idiot, too, in Denmark. No, this was the, the pal. We spent the most time hanging out for sure out of the whole crew. So.
Starting point is 01:13:40 What does he do? Yeah, he works in video games. So there's a video game campus in Malmo, Sweden. It's on the new Star Wars. You can't make this shit up, people. Like, it's just, it's wild. Hey, coming up, I got a wedding. Oh, yeah, where is it?
Starting point is 01:13:53 Sylvan? No, Italy. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. But I'm going to swing over ahead of time meet a buddy of mine. Oh, yeah. What's he do? Is it laborer or construction?
Starting point is 01:14:01 No, works in video games. There is no one else who lives, who has your life. No one. You got to go and meet people, talk to people, Dean. Oh, that's what's holding me back from no one, a fucking guy in Denmark who's in video games is because I don't go out enough. Nice and Sweden. It's a fourth one of the Denmark. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:20 You should interview Kipper if you're over there. Yeah, while you're over there. Noodla. Nudla. Nudla. Newtla. St. Eugene.ca is the website.
Starting point is 01:14:30 There you are. There you go. So you will be, you will be on the show tomorrow. but then you are jetting off shortly thereafter. Yeah, I want a bird at 315, so it'll be right to the airport from here tomorrow. Can't go along. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:43 You know what? Lights aren't, they're not running tightly. I hope that these big ones are, because it's like you got eight, nine hours to make up a little time if you need to. I feel like you have the big, big windows to get people off and get people on.
Starting point is 01:14:59 First class, you got the pod? God, no. No. Oh, come on. Have you got the pod? I was just having money if you're not going to spend it. I was only 770 games light in my NHL career for the front of the boss. Did you book two seats for yourself?
Starting point is 01:15:15 I'll take your family history over my professional life. Yeah, well, I mean, I'm not getting gifted a flight here. This is, come on, Tom, pay for your kids' flight to Denmark to get on. Tom's not paying for the flight. Tom's wonderful man. Come on, Tom. Tom's a great man. I'm going to see my.
Starting point is 01:15:34 best friend. You know what you you neglected to bring up at the Pinterport? I thought for sure you were. Would have been the release of the rookie camp and training camp
Starting point is 01:15:47 rosters. Pinticton is coming up. Yeah, it was right after the show you. I'm going to do that tomorrow. And I don't know. It came out yesterday. Yeah, I feel like it's definitely
Starting point is 01:15:56 something other sports shows would talk about and that I would probably in the past try to talk about and you guys would be like, nobody cares. Wow. And again, I hate you. in front of you dean but i just checked tickets bills tickets and there are yesterday there was zero yeah available zero season zero season tickets available there are now no way pick your spot
Starting point is 01:16:17 eh pick your section don't over that people come on what loss happening and not a bad loss really like a tough loss but like the jets yeah ryan like it's like losing to edmonton for the flames like It's a bad. Yeah, it hurts, but they're supposed to be good. And I know Rogers hurt. I get it. There's, it would be emotionally difficult in Buffalo today. That sucks.
Starting point is 01:16:42 That's a rival. I'm not sure you do get it, Ryan. Yeah, you don't have, you know what? Your problem is you're not invested enough. You don't know the journey. You don't know the journey, Ryan. You don't know the journey. I don't know the journey as well as you.
Starting point is 01:16:59 There you go. Support the sponsors, subscribe and like. We appreciate you. Have yourself a fine remainder of your day, and we'll see you tomorrow. See you, buddies.

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