Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - What Are The Winnipeg Jets WITHOUT Connor Hellebuyck?? | BB Clips

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

Boomer, Pinder and Rhett preview the Winnipeg Jets heading into the 2026-27 season, but there’s really only one place to start — the absolute mess surrounding Connor Hellebuyck. After requesting a... trade earlier this offseason, the situation has somehow escalated even further with Hellebuyck now suspended by the Jets, leaving one of the NHL’s best goaltenders and Winnipeg’s biggest trade chip in complete limbo. The guys break down how things reached this point, whether there’s any chance Hellebuyck plays for Winnipeg again, what a potential blockbuster trade could look like and how the Jets are supposed to approach the season with this hanging over them. There are plenty of other questions surrounding Winnipeg’s roster, but until the Hellebuyck situation gets resolved, everything else feels secondary. Oh baby… what the hell happens now?Video Link: https://youtu.be/qQ_GnrnKteA#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #nhlpicks #stanleycup #stanleycupfinal #winnipegjetsCHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️BARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today we preview the Winnipeg Jets as we continue to move east to west and Canada. Would you have done it anyway with all the news coming out of Manitoba? We've been really lucky because we had some of the Domi news yesterday with the Leafs, or two days ago with the Leafs. We had some of the Leaves. Montreal had done some business. It's timed out very nicely. Jack's got the or he's the Oracle over there.
Starting point is 00:00:21 He's got the script. It's timing it nice. The Jets last year had 82 points. They went from winning the West and the President's trophy to one of the, biggest cliff falls we've seen in a while. This is a great, I have been meaning to say. I really like this page. I don't know where it came up, but you got it.
Starting point is 00:00:39 That's awesome. My bot. Now, if you want to look at the bottom left of the screen, there is an asterisk next to the name Connor Hellebuck. And we can talk all we want about the Winnipeg Jets and what they are, what they have been, what they could be. Hey, Connor. Cutter!
Starting point is 00:00:53 Yeah. Got her. Are you there? Goder! Well, we got news. He's not there. Oh, shoot. He is not reporting to.
Starting point is 00:01:00 training camp and this morning Kevin Shevoldaoff addressed the media they have officially suspended him for not showing up to training camp which is kind of typical American what a D move you have so much sarcasm today that if people aren't familiar with you first time watching him and like who is this guy so he hates Conroy and Conroy hates him and these people take life too serious I guess so idle idiots I mean somebody two people text me yesterday and they're like are you starting a new podcast well Jack's working on. I don't know if we have it right now, Jack. I know it'll be already soon. There would be more, probably you should drop the ass on idiots and be societal idiot.
Starting point is 00:01:37 And I'd just talk about myself. Carry on, Ryan. He's suspended when he shows up or if he shows up is the question. My gut is that he will show up before he starts missing paychecks, which is not in the preseason. You start getting paid once the regular season started. And Kevin Shevolde, I've said this today. I preserved that sanctity, sanctity until they made it public when asked.
Starting point is 00:01:59 about the Hellebuck trade request, which came ahead of the draft. The goalie market is unique. There's no clock. My obligation is to get it right for the Winnipeg Jets. That'll make sense, i.e., he's not getting the deal right now that are going to make the Jets better. And yeah, Connor, I would like to accommodate your trade request, but I can't do it until there's a good deal for the Jets. That's who signs my checks. I'm worried that there isn't.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Well, they will get a good deal at some point. Someone will go, shit, I need a goalie. And it felt like their crickets in Buffalo. No, No, noodles had odd takes on it from some of his connections. We're like, yeah, we like them. But, but. Yeah. Yeah, like the thing of it is, you start finding, well, who is it Ottawa,
Starting point is 00:02:41 is a Buffalo, is a Carol? Whatever. Winnipeg could, you could look through the same lens and be like, well, Winnipeg would be one of those teams that could use a Conor Helper. They're a good team. They had Conor Helplug. They could have a goal team that could really get them over the hump. They've had Connor Hellabuck.
Starting point is 00:02:57 They've had a star blue liner and high scoring setters and wingers and all of that, and it hasn't gotten them. Yeah, I mean, they win the President's trophy literally two seasons ago and then needed, what, a last second goal to get past the Blues in round one? That's kind of- No, it was, they needed a horseshoeing. And what let them down in the playoffs? Goaltending.
Starting point is 00:03:16 It was good against the Stars of Colorado. Oh, wait. If you had a similar team with regular season success and then your goaltending let you down in the playoffs, you beat, well, we need to upgrade. our goal tenant. He'll be better than what some team has. But we never kind of flip it and be like, well, why hasn't it helped Winnipeg? Because Winnipeg seems to have everything if they had a top tier goal. I'll tell you who's doing that. Every other team in the NHL that I think that's happening for sure. And I think it would be fair to say that Connor Hellebuck is the best regular season goalie
Starting point is 00:03:49 of this era. You cannot say what you want to say because the next category is full of guys in his realm that have cups like Vasilevsky or that have carried you through series like we've seen Shisterkin do or other guys like he just it's the one piece missing on the resume. Yeah, like he's heart winner. Vesna winner. Three last four Vezna win. He's been nominated for
Starting point is 00:04:10 he was won two of them. And the one year he didn't he was hurt for six weeks. Absolute debacle for Shevoldea. Like he's do it does such a good job I think in Winnipeg. The drafts have sucked for 10 years with the trades for what you're given. Yeah. And he got those guys signed. It was and Integral will never,
Starting point is 00:04:27 the criticism was going well, they'll never be able to keep Shifeley and Hella Buck. So they're going to have to start over. Connor. Both got them both done, highly praised. I want to be a jet for life. And then two years later,
Starting point is 00:04:40 yeah, maybe I don't want to be a jet for life. Yeah. It's a tough spot. And it's a weird one because we see, like Adam Fantilly isn't at camp, but he's an RFA. This is the,
Starting point is 00:04:48 he's in contract. This is the, because even Dylan Larkin went to camp and then got hurt. I did see that. That's coming up. Which is interesting. Yeah. But the last time, I think we saw you like Alexei Ashton, it's the last time that somebody has had an existing contract and did not, and willingly did not show up to Canada.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Yeah, he held it a whole year. They say hold out. And it won't officially become anything serious until the season starts. It just makes everything. The fact that he put out that stupid statement, I get he wants out of there. He was doing the right thing. And I'm talking about Hellebuck back in April. They both the team and him kept him out.
Starting point is 00:05:26 shut yeah it's kind out there but and then he comes out with a statement what a month ago a couple weeks ago and you saw shovel they off say it like oh my god i respected the sanctity it was like i didn't say shit we kept it quiet why is it out there why is it a big deal because you did it and it's an asshole move by their part because they're trying to put the boots to the
Starting point is 00:05:43 jets and the jets are like we're trying to do the right thing so you sign this you hold our feet to the fire and not like they must be of the mind that don't tell me there's no interest we know there's interest and the deals that they think you're getting are good enough. Just make make the trade. Yeah. Whereas shovel they also like, why would I? Why am I? Yeah. I got no rush. You're going to get five years left to your deal. I'm not going to take a lesser deal just so you're happy. He's done well in really tough spots. I think of the Truba deal. I also think of Pierre-Luc de Bois when he fell in his face
Starting point is 00:06:14 there. They turned him into three very nice pieces and Dubois was a flop with the Kings. That really gutted the King's system. This is another really challenging spot. We'll see what goes. Don't know what the Jets are, though, by the way, we talked about Hullabuck, but not the rest of the... Well, he's their most important player, and he's not there. So it's going to be really tough to assess what they are, because he might show up the moment that he
Starting point is 00:06:33 needs to club baseball. How now? I think he shows up the last minute possible so that he doesn't... So you're just proving that you're a POS. It's a statement for sure. You're proving that you're a POS, but I want my money. Like, it's just oh, I have a hard time with that.
Starting point is 00:06:51 And I'll tell you what, right? Like, to your point, if he had kept his mouth shut up and showed up to camp and is in good form, the deal's easier to make if he was red hot in October November. You know what? We don't want to see if you're another GM, a goalie missing camp coming in and maybe not having a great year because we saw it was swimming two years ago. What does it not see?
Starting point is 00:07:11 When does character matter? Does this not speak to character? If I'm trading for a girl, I get that you want out of there, but you're really kind of screwing these guys. You're okay with it to me? Is that right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:22 It's interesting without knowing what the offers have been. Because it's a very similar thing to what happened with Brady Kachuk in Ottawa. He had time left in his contract. I want out. But the Ottawa trade seemed like that was good return under the circumstances. They got it done fast. Would we be seeing something similar if Steve Stales is like, no, I'm not trading? They had to be close.
Starting point is 00:07:44 There was too much talk with the Buffalo situation around the draft. Especially when that number four pick, right, came from Chicago in the Byron deal. It was like that pick is in place. something, I don't know, my gut tells me that something derailed that, maybe shoveled there. I've wanted more, but it is true. There are two sides. There's two sides to every coin, Jack.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Maybe we're out to lunch. But it doesn't come across. I have a hard time taking Hellebuck's side. It's difficult, how it's played out. I get the sense, and this is just my feeling, and I could be totally out to lunch. They were close before the draft. I made some really nice looking package.
Starting point is 00:08:22 because you had teams that were competitive with top 10 picks, be it Florida, be at Buffalo, after the trade of Byram, et cetera, et cetera. I don't think they've seen trades nearly as good as those as my guess, which is why you're hearing insiders say, yeah, they haven't been getting good offers. I bet you the best offer they got was one they wish they took at the draft. As for the rest of the team, I mean, it was an unbelievable year for Mark Schifley, 103 points, 82 games, 36 goals. Connor is still one of the most lethal goal scorers in the league.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Big time. At any given time. But now Connor's 29. Shifley is 33. Gabe Valardi's a good player, often injured, but he's 27. Call Perfetti is the guy. First rounder. It's time.
Starting point is 00:09:06 It's definitely time. It does seem like Vigo Bjork's going to make that team. Yes. And he's really impressed in some of the prospect stuff. He was the centerman that we kind of had penciled in for the flames. If maybe the D, they liked more. weren't there at six. Carl's was there at six,
Starting point is 00:09:21 and Bjork looks like he's going to be a very good player. And the back end, you like Pionk, right? Pionk's good. Morrissey's great. Morrissey's a stud. But it's... Ebony and ivory.
Starting point is 00:09:33 That's right. It doesn't feel as strong as it has in the past. No. And you also lost an Eilers in there, right, Dino? Yeah. And if you're automatically deleting a hellabuck in your head, well, who's going to platoon with Skinner?
Starting point is 00:09:46 Because we've seen Skinner as the one. That doesn't go good. I don't mind. him in a platoon as much. That's why I still go back to the Buffalo thing. I know. Even now it's like, I don't know if you wanted Rudolph at 4,
Starting point is 00:09:56 but boy, UPL the other way, so the prospect and a pick is going on it. It seems to make sense. And like not in that, in that subtraction because they went at the, at the deadline. And who knows what he is,
Starting point is 00:10:05 but Logan Stanley was a first rounder and played minutes for him. He doesn't have a deal, so I'm not putting him in the big category. It's just looking at this D. It just feels. It's okay. Ivan, he was in Pittsburgh last year,
Starting point is 00:10:16 Jack? Is that right? Yes. Mara Ferrero, long-time shark, they're not bad players, but it's a third pair. And Skinner. If I'm Hunter Bersstavich, really, really? Yeah, really?
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. I'm looking at that going, I'll play every night there. How about I go play in Winnipeg where I can be in the lineup every night and play in the NHL? Last year, 82 points over understead at 85 and a half this year, so they'll be a touch better, but geez, that's not anywhere near playoffs, 85 and a half points.
Starting point is 00:10:53 They are 40 to 1 to win the conference they won two years ago. 33 to 1 to win the division that also houses Colorado, Dallas, Minnesota, won that division two years ago. Plus 2.30 to make the playoffs. And I do think there's real pressure there. It's a small market. Winters are cold. Ticket prices go up.
Starting point is 00:11:11 You're bringing in Canadian bucks. You're paying American. It's not great. We saw softening the last 16 months. in attendance as well. I don't know that that market can just say, yeah, yeah, we're going to jump into another rebuild. Maybe you should, but. Dumb Manitobans, go watch the game. You've got nothing better to do. Absolutely nothing better to do. Spend your money at the rink. Let's go. You get mad at Jack for
Starting point is 00:11:36 clipping stuff. But how is he not going to take? Listen, you stupid Manitobans. Sorry, go to the game. Like, are you guys worried about the future of the, Winnipeg Jets? Kind of, yeah. I'm not because the owner's got so much Donaro. Yeah, and I mean, they will be able to keep it there if they want to,
Starting point is 00:11:55 but it's going to be one of these things ain't like the other ones. When you look at the market size, the rink size, it's a different thing. I better shut up. No, I don't want you to shut up now. It'd be shit for saying things. Are you saving it for societal idiots?
Starting point is 00:12:11 You're at the show? Let's say, come on. I actually forget. All right. What was I going to say? Oh, I was going to say. say there probably shouldn't be an NHL team in a town of the 750,000 people. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:12:24 It's a small market, guys. It's small. And it's Canadian and it's not tax friendly nor good well. And it's, I don't know the economy in Winnipeg so well, but I got to think that there's probably one of the big issues in Buffalo is the fact there's no corporate dollar there. Yeah, they got all the insurance money there.
Starting point is 00:12:42 That's about it. There's only so many companies you can go to for sponsorship. Ken Weeb and Kevin Oth, think it's great. Absolutely. 4.5 million bucks in cast space, but until we sort of, what the hell is going to have
Starting point is 00:12:55 with hell about that number could go. Split time between Winnipeg and Saskatoon. Ah. There's no home. Half the season for Western Midwest Canada's team.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Jack wouldn't remember, but the Expo is famous that played half a year in Puerto Rico and half a Montreal. That didn't. What? Oh, yeah. They put home games in Portland, Well, it sounds cool on paper, but.
Starting point is 00:13:20 But we love Adam Lowry. We love Adam. A great third line center. Leader. God is down. Josh. Horacey. You are on an absolute role.
Starting point is 00:13:30 First star is already locked up on the show today. Yeah, it's really good. That's it for the Jets. I think it's waiting to see on their best player. It's a big thing.

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