Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Where Do The Flames Go From Here With Jamie McLennan | FN Barn Burner - January 17th, 2024

Episode Date: January 17, 2024

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Hi, you buddies. Welcome to Barnburner here on the 17th day of the month of January. Sure. In the year of our Lord, the 2000 of 24th. Good to see you and peace be to you. There's Pinder, there's Warner. I am Dean as we get into it today. Our buddy Jamie McClennan are going to be joining us on the Insider Hotline for Tell Us. Always fun when Noodles joins us.

It is. He loves noodles. You know, he's just one of, he's one of our favorite people. And I think he's one of hockey's favorite people. So we'll talk to noodles and see what's going on. The Flames. We talked about it yesterday.

I'm trying to remember because we did after Burner last night and we did the show yesterday. The notion of maybe Craig Conroy is going to have to do a little bit of, you know, a little bit of this, little bit of that. He's going to have to be kind of like, like a sous chef. He's going to have to be preparing multiple dishes here. So just in case the beef's overdone, we got to be able to have the chicken ready. And if the chicken's too dry, then we got to, if we're close to the playoffs, then we might have to do this. And if we fall right out of the race and we're going to be far away from

the playoffs, then we've got to do this. So what if we're kind of well, you know, could be a little dicey retro. It's four straight wins now for the flames after a three two overtime win last night at the dome. Everybody's excited. the, it was, what do you call it, Armed Forces, military night last night. It looked awesome. Afterwards, all the military hook on the ice

with the team for the photo. It's one of the favorite nights of the year. Blake Coleman had a, he had a clip in the post game. He says, good teams find a way to win when they're not at their best. Suggesting that that's what the flames did last night. And through two periods, they, safe to say. and I would agree with Mr. Coleman, with Rusty's son.

They were not at their best. Yeah, they were not at their best for about 40 minutes last night. Flat, would you say? Yes. Yeah. First game back. Give Arizona credit. They wanted to bore the crap out of the 18,000-ish attendance, and they did a great job.

They played a perfect opening road 40, I'd suggest. Don't allow much. Boar the hell out of the other team. Don't allow shots five. on five aside from going to the box a little too much that's a pretty good road game for a a Arizona club that got shelled five days ago by the flames yeah I think the flames had seven shots halfway through the hockey game or whatever it was it was they were both at seven shots into the yeah into what they call that yeah low event hockey that sure is yeah that was low event hockey

uh let's do the opening statements for mccloud law of course our buddy peter klein I i assume he's Got his energy back from the trip to after the trip down to Arizona. He and his daughter had a heck of a good time. Yeah. Peter Klein, whatever the case may be. It's, you get into some legal issues and you need help. Who can you trust? You can trust McLeod law.

Calgary-based, they know what you need, they know who you are, what Calgarians are like, and how it works here. McLeodlaw, McLeod-Dashlaw.com, if you want good people and the best people in the legal field on your side. The opening statements, Blake Coleman, speaking of which, 20 goals for Blake Coleman. We're not near, I mean, I guess we're closer than we were a game ago, but we're not at the end of the season.

There are three games past the midpoint. There's three games into the second half, and he's two off his career high. That's some good work there, Dino. You know how we do those, what is that, bold, bold predictions, which we didn't do this year. Yeah. Um, would anybody have picked Blake Coleman to be leading this team in goals or to be a threat to God, no. That's what I was reading in. I went over the summer when I dug into the numbers and the.

Yeah. Yeah. So I take that back. I guess I'll, I'll take it. Well, and I did do some bolds. You guys didn't pay attention. Yeah, you see the bills were going to draft a quarterback in the first round. Do you remember that?

That was bold. Give you that one. Yeah. No, I know. I'd still bold. I'm not saying it's unbolded. They saw Stroud play last weekend. I think we all had some bold predictions after about the seven game mark.

You know what? They weren't that bold at the time, but they're proving to be so. Yeah. They were bold. Top five picks can change your organization. Yeah, they were something. They may still be accurate. You'd never know.

But there was a lot of, they were hoarse bleep. This is the, they tear it down. It would be interesting to go back and just pull some. I don't know, would it? I don't think they'd do that. It's not like they're a playoff team. They haven't accomplished anything yet. They're having a hell of a run.

They've got the worst. They get the chance of the worst pick and not make the playoffs. The worst possible squad among the playoffs. This is, they now have the eighth highest points percentage are chances of getting in the playoffs by a bunch of models. Now there's like a bunch

of teams with them. So they're still more likely to miss than to make. What is it again? What did you even say? Can you speak in English? Eighth. And seven. So they're, Their playoff probability by is eighth in the West.

It's only 32% but it's the eighth highest in the West. I didn't do well in school. This is not a show for you. You don't love math. Science and math. No, it's the way you're fixing. Oh, eight sounds good. It's 32%.

Oh, that doesn't sound. Those things are true, believe it or not. I know, but why would you use the non-English language? Like, we, I think most of the people that listen to our show, are dullards like ourselves and don't need the extravagant. I'll try it again. There's seven teams that are really good in the West boys. Of the rest,

blames could be the best. There you go. I get it. Very reasonable that they could finish first out of the rest of those bum teams. And see, it's not about, one playoff spot available for that group.

It's not about math. It's about how you're framing it. You know, of the, of the shit, they're some of the best shit. I mean, 32%. They have a 32% chance today of being a playoff team. It would have been like 18 a few weeks ago. And they could be in a playoff spot by the All Star break.

This is, we did not see this coming. Since that outdoor game, they're well above 500. Could they be in a playoff spot if they win the next game? I mean, there's lots of teams in there. They're in a large, muddy pack. But yeah, it would be interesting if they're going to pause for 10 days. And for those 10 days, they are sitting in a wild card by points percentage and points. Like that would be, I would think there'd be a lot of phone calls between Noah Hanifan's agent and Craig Conner at that point.

Do you think this is giving Hanofin some leverage? Maybe, maybe, no, just rethinking things. I think it makes more sense for everyone. If this team's good with him and he liked winning, I mean, it's way better than how. things looked after the game in Edmonton outside, right? Yeah. Losing. It sounded like he put a pause on the signing.

Yeah. And I would have too. That team looked shitty. Our bold. These guys are crap. They were. Now they're that. Go back and watch those first 10 games, 2.7 and 1. Now they're at the top of the crap pile.

They're right at the top of the crap heap now. Yeah. They're doing better. And when I say they're shit. I should, I mean, it's foul language. And I'm, I'm using that just to kind of, you know, exaggerate to make a point. Anyway, we should not be talking about them in negative terms because they've been quite good as of late. I didn't think they were going to, I was sitting there halfway through and I was going to text Pinder.

What the hell are we going to talk about on the after break tonight? This is, again, low event. They're down. It's now it's a one nothing game as you head to the third. and it just looked like they were cooked. And whatever excuse you want to dial up, if you want to use the excuse, reason, whatever. First game back, oh, they're tired.

Oh, the dads aren't there. Ah, whatever. Their wives are back nagging them again. So they're whatever. It didn't really matter. It just looked like this was going to be a night. They don't turn out at their best. It happens.

And the coyotes are better than they were a few nights ago. And then two goals in a minute three and you kind of start to shake your head. There's something about this group, for this there's i'll say i'll interrupt you for one second that second goal was lovely by possible soul and cadre that takes one ounce of brain power from the defenseman of the coyotes to stop well it was the dummy that that bent over that folded up a pospacil or uh the zary at the front of the net so that was some some sort of uh carmic justice there wasn't it it was something yeah uh it's a hell of a play it's a one-handed pious

pass right through to the back, to the back door, to a streaking Caudry, everyone in the building and everyone watching new, this is the play they're going to try. He's not going to get around him, so he's going to just try and throw one at the net. And Codry's going to try and get a stick on it. And the goalie didn't poke check it, and the D man didn't stop him, and the other D man didn't stop the pass, and Codry banged it. And at the other end, it was similar where Jersey hits. coolly, but at least, you know, the stick was tied up in that one and it went in off

of skate. That was Rasmus, I believe, that was tangled with him. You know, at least you're doing part of the job. It goes in off of skate. It's like, well, fuck, that's a bad bounce. Yeah. But like, they didn't tie up cadre stick at all. That's, there's, there's, that's, there's it.

Not to take anything away from, from our buddy possible, because that is a hell of a pass. That's a, you know, it's the old, he'd be, I'd be a hell of a pickleball player. Highlight. You know, like he's got, you know, wrist and forearm strength. You ever play Highline? I've not played Haida. Have you played highlight when you're in Miami?

Because it's a big game. It's a big game, but I've not played it. It's a card game, the sport? What are we? Yeah, it's a card game. Got to have strong hands. Deal with the cards. Yeah, that's right.

When you're going all in and folding. The cans deal from the bottom. Watch up for that. You can Google it. Codry, Ryan kind of brought it up. We talked about it last night. You watch Codry.

And it's hard to fathomile. them that this was the guy who looked so disinterested and disconnected at the end of the season last year. He was jumping on his tiptoes up and down in the crease last night when Sharon Gorvich scores the winner. When he scores that goal, he's

like blown away. He's like, what a bleep and pass from pospousal. He's been real good. That's now 10, what, 10 points in a seven game point streak. He has not gone. I threw that stat out and it would still. He does not go more than a couple games without getting a point and getting back on getting back on the horse.

He looks like the leader. He looks like kind of the gritty competitor, the guy that I'm sure Trillivin thought he was getting when he signed him to that big contract. Just a year late. To be fair, he was an All-Star last year had a good first half. That's right. Finished with, what, 24 goals for a year everyone was down on him? You're like, probably means a good year is closer to 30. Cup hang over?

Well, had a short off season for sure, but clearly he and Daryl weren't on the same page. You know, we're not hearing the whole, this is vindicating Daryl. And clearly there's lots of issues and there was lots of pros of having Daryl and there was cons as well. But it's a, it's a group that likes showing up to the rink a lot more than they did last year. Is there a cautionary tale to be found in this? Spin the tail. We've talked a lot. Give us the case here.

We attacked them pretty good. they proved us wrong, but they're still not in a playoff spot. Could they prove us wrong again by being, hey, these guys are the greatest? Sure,

they could. Yeah, and I don't even think we're saying they're the greatest. It's like, could they be the eighth best in the West? That's really what we're asking. And after a two,

seven and one start, it's like, you have to play pretty well to get there. Well, you have to play eight games over 500. Yeah, they were five under after that stretch. That is,

seven and one. That's quite a swing. But again, if you have five points for your first 10 games and you've got to say you get to 93 or something like that, that's a pretty decent pace you got to play out for the final 72, right? Yeah. So cautionary tale both ways. Don't. They can easily land in peak sadness here, fellas, which would be the highest draft selection of a non-playoff team.

Like, highest as in biggest number. Man, we had a chance at making the playoffs. Damn, that was fun. And you could lock in on a guy like Hanofin at too much money because you were so keyhold on short-term success. And maybe you convince yourself that you don't trade Chris Tannav because he's so crucial to this defense corps and you let him walk as a free agent. There's still all kinds of landmines that Craig Conroy can step on here. Conroy's too smart for that. He knows better.

He knows better. He's not stubborn. He's, he's no, but it's muddy. It's way more difficult now because. It's a harder sell to ownership, isn't it, right? That's what I think it is, right? It's a harder sell to ownership, and you do have to go, okay, if I trade them and we do miss the playoffs, and Tannib, and I get a second in return, is a second worth falling out of a playoff spot?

Owner will say no. Right? Owner would say no. And I think the owner's right at that point. If you had the nerds find the value of a second round pick, it probably less than playoff revenue. But, you know, if you get a prospect in two seconds, now it's like, hmm, probably have to take the other side of that one. Like we don't know what the market is for them, right?

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I love noodles. The insider hotline is a presentation of Tellus. Tell us has been a proud partner of the Calgary Flames since 2005. There's Jamie McLennan. How are we doing noodles? What's up, guys? I heard the spirited debate going on. about now I'm coming in late but is it because the team is winning lately now what the hell

do you do with some of these players correct 1911 and four since that miserable outdoor game that had them off to a two seven and one start that that's a tidy run of play yeah I mean I did the game you know I was in studio with that what felt like a month ago was that last week you know literally For me, I've been in eight different places since. I was in Ottawa last night, flew back to Toronto this morning. But you know what? Like, I was thinking about it. You've infused some young players already in.

So this is the, you know, you're kind of having the, not the retool on the fly, not what the New York Rangers did. But remember the Rangers just, they sent out that letter. Yeah. Hey, guys, you know, nothing to see here for the next four years. We're doing a, you know, we're going to do a rebuild. And they were able to turn it pretty quickly. And now Schistairk can help with that because, you know, he had the all-world season.

And they went and signed Panera and they had some. Box arrived. Yeah. Yeah. They had some higher pieces. I would argue that Connie still has to, I heard the second rounder argument because you're right. Like, what is the value of that?

There's an actual analytic value of like, okay, this second rounder has a chance to, you know, 21% chance of playing and all of that stuff. You know, I've heard this argument too. I mean, is Iggy the greatest player in Flames history? I would say he is, right? It's the greatest flame, yeah. Okay. I can't remember.

What did they get for Iggy? Nothing. First and two college prospects. Nothing panned out. Kenny Agostino, Ben Hanowski, and a pick that turned into Morgan Klimchuk. So the hockey news, can't find any three of those guys, right?

Like it's literally. Not in the NHL. So like that's where I'm thinking like and I'm not advocating to keep these players. But I'm trying to figure out as to what is the marketplace and then what do you get for them to fill the team if you're that close to the playoffs? If you're 1911 and whatever moving forward, you go in on this team is my thoughts. And you don't worry about that. But I also think and I said at the last.

two days. I also think it's a committee team with a hell of a goaltender, which you've seen work before. And I think you can actually move even a Lindholm. We talked about yesterday and the day before. He's good. He's real good, but he's not $9 million good. I think you can move that guy and do another trade or in that process, bring a guy in to slot in as another centerman and fill that spot and still have just as good a chance in the playoffs because you're not, Lindenholm's not wowing you with offensive ability. He's not going to run your power play. You don't, he's not a focal point for the other team to shut down.

He's just a real solid, real good player. Well, they've got cadre. They've got backlund. And if they can get just another guy that can play, I think you can move a couple of these pieces and not cut your feet out as far as making the playoffs. I don't disagree. because what you're looking at is what Lindholm brings and then what is the next guy who comes in? How much is that gap, if at all?

I mean, and, you know, recency bias. I did the Ottawa-Colaroid game last night and then I watched the Flames, Arizona. And like, Bowen Byron, like he's available, right? I think, right? Like, I mean, you hear whispers that Colorado wants to beef up there up front. And he might be a guy that could be an odd man out just based on like, McCar's not going anywhere. You know, Gerard's come back and he looked really good.

Devon Taze is there. Like they might just have a lot of defensemen that they could part with. I'm not saying Lindholm for Bowen Byron. I'm not I don't, I'm not trying to patch anything. But what I'm saying is there are trades out there that can help your team get better with some of these players that we're talking about, the Taneves, the, the Lindholm's, you know who else uh hana fin uh you know i don't know i think at some point you do have to sign if you had to sign one of them is it hanafin he's younger it is yeah and they need d more badly um

i do think it's a little bit silly to suggest that you could just have some guy tossed in a deal that could play 21 minutes like last night but you don't need 21 minutes you're not looking for exact you're looking for in lindholm right you can get a third line center but it's going to be a drop from lindholm to the guy you get tossed in in that deal. Let's just acknowledge that. A hundred percent. What you probably would do is ask Cadry to kind of slide into different roles. You'd ask Backlin to, you know, absorb either some of those minutes or some of that responsibility.

But it is, I would argue this, this record, what did you say, 1911 and 4? Yeah, 34 games since that. 11 and 4. Was Lindholm the Catalyst or is he just a good player and part of that? the player part of it and for a lot of it not a good not I wouldn't he's never been a bad player he's not a focal player though

hopefully he can hear us at least did Jack just kill him Jack just arrived here Jack's alive guys Jack kill him I got a Jack update he's alive did you kill noodles Jack what happened Jack is he there we did you just die there he's back okay rather sorry guys continue Lindholm's been okay

for most of it and good for part of it right so I mean like if this is a by committee team, what you do is you plug and play, but you're asking somebody else to absorb some of his minutes or some of his responsibility and you kind of, you put the pieces together. I butcher the guy's name.

He scored the game winner last night. Sharon Govich. You got it. There's guys where I look on my sheet, and I'm like, I hope he does nothing tonight because I don't want to say his name on TV because I can't do it. Like last night.

A rough month for that. Everyone's saying his name a lot. Well, I know. And he's been awesome. But Sharon Goldovich is like, you know, there's a guy that you find value in a trade where, you know, Tafoli had a career high and he was at the peak there. And you go younger, maybe a chance, somebody who needs an opportunity to expand, somebody who's maybe not in a top six who could get a top six.

you know, the biggest lesson learned on some of this stuff is, you know, William Carlson, you know, players like that and Riley Smith that went in expansion, they got bigger roles. If you can find, and that's where your scouting, your pro scouting has to be dialed in, is who around the league on some of these teams that are valuing the players that you are willing to sell, how are these young prospects going to help your team and maybe with opportunity. Sharon Govich was a prime example. He scored 20, a couple years back, wasn't going to be on the first power play. They've kind of pushed past him. Now he slides in. He looks like a pretty good player for the flames. So let's think about this then. Boston's been linked to Lindholm, whether that's

real or just us seeing a fit. Ditto Colorado. You mentioned Byram in Colorado. Okay. How about this Poitra kid or whatever his name is in Boston that made the team that went to the world juniors? He's a center. There is a deal where the guy can come in and give you center ice minutes. And, you've got another theoretical decade of him as a pro not, you know, the expensive 30 plus years that Lindholm's going to be getting on his next deal. Like would that be a framework that makes sense to you? It would, but here's the thing. I'll be honest. I feel like is that too much, like what's Lynn Holmes value? He's a rental. Like you'd have to have an extension in place or something. Boston's not given him nine million? Like, you know what I mean? Like I-

No one's giving him nine. He knows that too. Like that ship sailed. Boston, they'd be doing the reverse that Calgary would be doing. So here's Pwatra. How far are we going to Lindholm? Right now? Is there windows now, right? Like, I know, Marshand and McAvoy. Like, it's, they don't have. No, I get it. I understand. I still think Boston, I swear to God, I saw Patrice Bergeron skating the other day. I swear to God, he's just showing up at the deadline. I'm going, yeah, you know what? Maybe I'll play for the stretch here. I swear to God he's doing that. I don't. maybe I'm wrong, but I've seen him more than often skating. Like I've just kind of, you know, he's around the dress room, the guys, there's always on Twitter. Like, you know, Boston, there's Bergeron in the room. What the hell is he doing? He's retired. Yeah, he was dropping the puck at the game the other night.

He was dropping the puck. That's all. It's ceremonial. But I agree. Like, there is a marketplace for him. I think Colorado would be a fit. I think Boston, I think there's several teams. If a hockey trade's available, like I don't know,

is Byram for Lindholm a trade that anyone would make? I don't think Colorado would make that trade. And then other people are saying it would be Byron Plus. Like, we really don't know. Byram's a good, young, Tulsie defense. I would make. If I'm the flames, I make that trade all day because I think you fill a hole with that. And then you can deal with Hanif in from a position of strength.

If he wants to. Yeah. Right. But I guess my point is, is Lindholm as a rental, I think Byron's worth more. That's my point is I think Byram is going to be, if he's not,

I think he's a top pairing. All right, I've got to deal, Lindholm and Vladar for, uh, there you go. Byram. The thing about it with Colorado would be too, though, is they've been so good. Yeah. We know that maybe Byram is going to be a great player

and Byron for Lindholm, but what makes us better right now this year? They got to win a cup. That's what they're chasing. They're not worried about who's going to be better in four years, right? We see teams that's what other teams are offering as well, too, right? It's not like they've only got one team to negotiate with. So they can go and say, hey, who wants Byram?

And the Florida Panthers call and they say, yeah, we do. We'll give you this and this. They don't want picks, maybe, but whatever it is, they're going to take. Anyway, you know, the thing. Sorry, Jay, I was going to say, the thing about this is, and you've been on this show, so you know this. we're very smart. We're very smart and we're always right.

Yeah, always. So here's the thing. And I talk to Red every single day. And there's a line that you cross and we talk about it where Conroy will be on this same line where it's, I know the team's playing well, but I know. I know what they are. It's great that they're winning games, but we're going to be rebuilt. And then you get a little bit closer and it's,

maybe this team's playing a little bit better than even I thought. But I still know that this, that's great to play well. I'm happy for the coach. You know, first year coach, this is so great for Huska. But watching Ret the last few days, the last week to 10 days with how well this team is playing, it's not just results, it's how they're playing. It's like, hmm, am I rethinking what I think about this team? Because just the three of us across the board, we're all right.

And I put myself there too. They're good, but, you know, we're rebuilding. You watch what they did last night. Yes, it's Arizona, but still two goals when they look dead and buried. Came back, tied it, went to overtime, great shot, win. Went into Arizona, pumped them. Went into Vegas. Yes, Vegas is short-handed.

Was by far and away the better team on the ice. I'm just wondering, I think we're all wondering, is this team better? than we thought. And you don't need to be the number one seed. Look at Boston last year. There's a lot of, you can be a five or a six or whatever and get in. And with goaltending, holy shit, what can happen? What you just said is the key there too. All that stuff, they're playing well and they got the Vesna goaltender. When did Florida start to play well? They snuck in. They're down to three one. And all of a sudden, the Bobber showed up and he kicked some ass for almost two months. No, I mean, I've said it a million times. This league should just be called goalie. Because if

if you got one, you're in good shape. If you don't, then you watch your team just melt every night and you try and outscore the problems. You know, I think that the balance or the debate we always have right here is you do the on paper test. Like I always used to do the whiteboard test. You do, you know, you walk into a manager's office and he's got the, his roster on a whiteboard, and then he's got everybody else's roster on the whiteboard.

whiteboard. So when you start to do the overlay, the matchups, okay, are they better than Team X, Team Y, all of that? But you have to be playing better. And that's what RET's coming back to. And 2004, it was, you had two superstars and then it was by committee. You had some really, really good players, right? So the goalie's going to give you a chance. I didn't hear the report, like, is he, is he playing tomorrow or is he like out a couple days? It's day to day. So it seems minor. They're being cautious, I'd suggest. Yeah. So, but outside of that, like, the goalie gives you a chance and this team is jelling. And it's all right for players, like, Blake Coleman's come to life.

Like, you know, you look at some of the players, like, he helps Tampa win a Stanley Cup. Like, there's a reason. Like, you know, he's a hell of a player. And maybe it took him a while to settle in here. But, like, he's really showing what he's capable of. Like, I think they're better than people are giving them credit for. but but how much better that's why and i think this week is a great week to figure that out they got Toronto and then they got oh my god um edmonton on saturday night okay boys things are

great beat them it'd be nice to have marxstrom for that test too right i don't know they're going to but yeah well it would be nice to have markstrom like he he needs to get over the the emmington thing you know and that's you know that would help because i You guys know, I'm a huge marquee fan. I love the guy. I think he's a all of a goaltender. You know, and I hope that he's all right because they shouldn't. They're going to get a pissed off leaf team.

And, you know, I'm in Toronto. I can see the fire burning outside my window right now. Four blown leads in a row if people aren't up to speed. We have a thing on our show called the underpants cam where, you know, a zero is no skid mark and a 50 is a skid mark. In Toronto right now, the underpants cam is at a 50. Like there are skid marks left and right because it's just people are just perplexed of what's going on like it. So I don't know.

But it's the leaves will be a crabby team tomorrow. And you're right. This is a big test for them. You know, you're passing markers. You go into Vegas. You know, Vegas is shorthand. It doesn't matter. Whoever you play, you've got to beat.

But that's right. They were dead in the water last night. that kind of looked like a, you know, a game that they lose, like, 3-1. Well, and those are the games that kill you at the end of the year. Right. It was, you know, you can almost go, yeah, well, they're a little flat. They were on the road. They've been playing.

Well, it was just one of those games. But you give up those two points. And come April, you go, son of, uh, yeah, like we just lost to Chicago. We come home, Arizona's better than probably we give them credit for. but still a team where you're thinking if we want to climb and get in a playoff spot, we got to have the two points. They're sitting there two nothing down two nothing with half a period left and they tie it and win it in overtime.

Those two points are massive. Those are the ones that add up at the end of the year that you maybe didn't think you were going to have that give you that chance to get in. Well, but it comes back to, you know, the debate we're having, you continue on. And there is some time still for Connie to sort through this, right? You know, it's a nice stretch here. You know, maybe they continue to climb and they, they even gel more.

Or maybe there's a, we'll call it a market reset where you're like, okay, you know, we kind of know they're going to be on the cusp. I still think you can have the best of both worlds. You can still trade players, but bring in younger guys to push up. What do you think they have to do, though? Because last year and the years prior, like we've seen, if you go back over the history, last 20 years of the flames, again, the leaves for. Zip.

Giordano leaves for zip. Kipersov leaves for zip. Zip. Like, they've never got anything returned and there's no guarantees him when you make a trade that you're going to get pieces that fit in like the, but what we did learn is you can't let

guys like Godreau walk for nothing. Giordano walk for nothing. Right? Like Connie has to do something. Yeah. He can't go into the playoffs with this squad of unrestricted guys and just go, Yeah, well, we were going for it.

Right. He's made the statement himself. He said the same thing himself in his press conference. What is he going to do? Well, I think there is, is there internal competition for guys pushing through? Yes, there's two guys in the minors that aren't playing. Peltier and Coronado aren't even up. And they're supposed to be relied on, I think, to be pretty integral moving forward.

The challenge is the blue line where it's Tannenhaven, Hanavan is two free agents and Shillington's played one game, that's a tough kind to say, oh, he's going to be, like you're just happy he's playing. And there's no one else that I think can do anything close to top four minutes. You can have come

guys playing five, six minutes, but there's no one else I can play top four right now. For me, it's a handkerf situation because if that bull and Byron, I think he's a hell of a player. And I think he's a, you would be a great fit for a blue line here in Calgary. I just wonder why is Colorado

talking with trading this guy. They know more than anyone else. This is a little weird. I don't think, yeah, we've got the cart in front of the horse. They're not looking to trade. I think what it is is there's been chatter as to if Colorado is going to be serious and try and get a second line center. Yeah.

You know, something like that. Because they're dealing, yeah, that's the position of strength for the Colorado avalanche. They can get rid of Byram and not really get roasted because they got those other guys there already. Yeah, that's, I think it's more like that's a really shining. any trade chip. Whether Joe Sackick just hangs up the phone when somebody calls, I don't know. I'm not behind the scenes.

It's just you hear these rumblings and, you know, our insiders are talking about it. So you're like, okay, maybe there is. Maybe people are just calling going, hey, he's, you know, is he available? Now, Bowen Byram's had some injury issues as a young player. So that would be a red flag. But, you know, Pinder, coming back to what you're saying, if D is at a premium and they don't have much coming through, doesn't that make hands? Tannifin more attractive to keep?

Yeah, he's the youngest, and he creates the hardest thing to replace. Yeah, it's hard to imagine his minutes going to someone that's here right now. It's a lot. We've gone back and forth. Trading TANF on Hattifan so often over the last couple of years. Like, what does he do well? Do you do anything well? And then you come back, God, he skates really well.

What has he done well this year? Well, he's put some points up to go along with all. He's been awesome. Like he's the one guy. There's not that many of it, but you're thinking Lindholm's going to have a great contract. Haniffin's having a great contract here. Yeah. And God love Chris Hanib.

I love him. I just, I wish he was 28. Yeah, 26. He's not. Right? That's the thing,

because they've already traded away Zedorov and haven't really replaced him. Even there's a guy named Dennis Gilbert. He's not playing right now. So you've got a lot of guys, it's Nick D. Simone and Austerly, some guys that Saloviav, Kuznetsov, really playing, playing too many minutes.

It gets thin. I mean, yeah, it gets thinner for sure. But that's, you know, that's where Connie, you know, he's got to be either creative or the team that is put it way this way. If the team that is coveting these players, Connie can replace it. If he decides, you know, I'm going to move Lenholm to Team X, but I'm going to move TANV to another team, I'm going to grab a defenseman from this team and a forward.

You've got a mix and match. And it doesn't have to, not all of them have to be live bodies if you do have kids pushing through that deserve to be on the roster. Well, who can't, feels like something a guy should know. Who's got no move clauses and can say no to a move? And we talk about signing guys, it ain't up to Connie.

Right? Like if Hanifone and Linda, I'm not signing. Haniffin's got an 8 team, Tanoff's got a 10 team. Those are no trades. Yeah. But there's, but.

Lindy's got no trade protection, so you can send him wherever you want. But us saying we have to sign Hanifin, which I think they should. If they could get him signed, I think they should. He's played well enough. He's young enough.

And I think if it doesn't work out down the road, he's an asset you can still move to get pieces whenever you want. If the salary's right, yeah. Yeah. You're the worst because, you always say the salary has to be right, but then the salary caps going up

so the salaries aren't going to hurt. No, I agree with you right. Like he's the safest of the three to sign, but that doesn't mean he gets a blank check. Like at what number do you say, no, this is the tough spot for Connie, right? It's not saying we'll commit to him.

It's at what number is like, oh, that's too much. Now I can't trade him down there. I don't know. What number would make that blue tooth pop right off your head? Seven and a half it don't like. Like, he's nowhere near what Devin Taves is. And Taves got less than that.

But you always say it's a Tave signed. win and now it's like everything signed a couple months ago right and it was in colorado and he's a better is is that a fair comparable did like that's a great deal for colorado quite likely it is yes and they do great deals so can you compare can you compare every deal to a terrific deal that's been signed i don't know i just think if you're giving them seven and a half it's an overpay that's all i mean i think it's close i mean could you live with seven oh i'd love seven so we're getting there right The other thing, too, is, and I know this, people don't want to hear this, but like, you know, Canadian market. Algary tax.

Calgary, like, it's, I say it, but I, you guys know, I love Calgary. I've spent so much time there. I grew up in Evanton, played junior in Lathbridge. Like, I'm an Alberta boy through and through. Alberta's not for everybody. Like, that's the thing. If you're making, if you're putting your hand up. It's the coldest place on the planet three days ago.

I know. isn't hannah from an american kid right he's from Boston Boston area now Boston gets cold in that but again you look at some of these things I call them cold weather tax or you know market tax like Ottawa has to pay that Winnipeg has to pay that Evanton has to pay that now emminton could sell the golden goose right now but they haven't they should be well they should be you're right they got three more years of cane at five plus what are they doing make a play for free to play with McDavid yeah but at the end of the day

like Calgary you might have to you know if you if you feel like Hanifins is $6 million defenseman or six and a half it might be a million dollars more to play in Calgary just based on you and we had a free agent that wanted to stay here you got to sell that narrative too

that's the way I would look at it is this guy wanted to be here he had options we were going to trade him but you know what he made the commitment yes we've given him a lot of money but at the end of the day he's made the commitment to stay with our organization, which, you know, Jonathan Hubert signed that deal without even playing a second for the flames, but, you know, it was 10 and a half million. So there you go.

What number do you say no is kind of the question I'm asking? I'm not saying, don't do it. I'm just saying, where do you get worried about it? And for me, it's around seven and a half. I, but you know what? And you mentioned it there. It's probably one of those things where you start to kind of parse it out and so, well, if I, if I like seven, am I that upset with seven and a half? and then it's close, 7.6, 7.7. Well, you're getting close to 8 now, and I sure don't like 8. I don't know. I'm with you.

If you've got a guy that wants to be here, that you're impressed and happy with his play, you like the guy, the guy's willing to stay, we'll call it Alberta, Canada, Calgary tax, whatever it is. I'd rather, it's the devil you know. I think I'd rather spend that money on Hanifan, then get that money back, whatever it is, 5, 4.9, I think he makes per year.

and going to July 1, looking for a guy that can play those minutes and play that well. No. And are you going to? I don't know. And it gets a, we go a million, round the clock a million times on this. But if you're letting him go and you don't have guys to fill that spot, you've got that open. Then sell everyone, which I'm fine with two. Yeah. It's true.

Like if you're going to sell Hanif and everyone else has to go. So you're not going to be good enough. No. Right. Right. Like you're cut. And not everyone, but the free agents, right? Yes, move everyone and get assets, and that's fine,

and go a little bit younger and see what happens. Totally cool. I'm fine with you. This is what's so hard about this, like, serve the master of make playoffs, but also serve the master of get younger and retool. Like, this is a really, really good thing. I think to serve the master,

the only move you can make is that Lindholm one and a Tanev one, you know, and if Vladar played, he played pretty good last night, if he can become an asset for you and move him and have Wolf come up, but you're not going to be a, I don't think, and I think that's what's going to have to happen. I think that's the mandate from above will be, you can make some moves, but in no uncircumstit terms, are you allowed to empty the barrel and start from scratch? Like, you're this, you're two points out of a playoff spot.

We're not throwing in the towel. Yeah. And you would expect, you would expect Wolf and some of the players that come up to help bridge that gap and keep them right there and keep them competitive right down the stretch. Rhett brought this up yesterday and you're a goalie, so I'm, I'm preaching to the choir here. But we all went down to Phoenix for the game on Thursday against the coyotes and Markstrom was great. And then I slid over to Vegas to watch that game. And I was telling the guys, I've been to Vegas a few times now. I've never seen the crowd that out of a game.

Rhett mentioned it yesterday. There's something about when you know your goalie is on and when he's playing great. You just play with a little bit more swag. Right. Use the term light. They were making plays. They were moving the puck around. They, they were having fun. It looked like it was kind of a scrimmage out there. It's the, and it's twofold. Being in that crowd, you could tell that the Flames knew Markstrom was on, and so did the Golden Knights. It felt like, we're just not going to score in this guy. And then Anderson pissed the puck away and they scored on, on a pretty little, on a giveaway. But outside of that, Markstrom,

Marksum was near perfect. You weren't going to beat him that night. And the further along we go, you just remember, like you say, you remember the Brovsky and what he did or just what any goal he does. When you get into the playoffs and we watch number one

seeds, you think they're going to cruise and a lot of times those number one seeds have a hell of a time doing it. It is very much the age of get in, chip in a chair. Get us in that. It'll be Colorado last year fellas. Seattle beat Colorado. Let's scrap it out. I just can't believe we're having this conversation. I don't know what happened last year with Markstrom. I don't know what's going on this year,

but they're two different guys, completely different guys in that crease. You know what? It's like confidence is a drug. And if you like you, you get it and it's like I watch. Like I come back. I'm doing these Ottawa games right now. They're they're immature, fragile team. It hurts my soul because watching Brady Kachak, I love that, Matt. Like he's an animal. He's an unbelievable player. Timmy Stutzel just turned 22.

Jake Sanderson is a superstar, in my opinion. They've got some pieces there that are going to be bargains at $8 million a year for the next six, seven, eight years. But it's they're going through the process. So I look at them Last night they're up four two on Colorado Oh yeah And it's like

Colorado is in like flex their muscle yet Like it was just You know McCar had played 30 minutes the night before And he was kind of like No you know Am I in this one or not And then he just makes a little play here

Little play You know rantan and just decides I'm gonna nobody's gonna get near the puck with me McKinnon turns it up like They just flexed their muscle and you could see if this was a balloon, the air was coming out of it. Like it was just, and you, and I felt bad because you're like, I said to our producer on the talk back at 4.3, I said, I'm worried because you could see it come.

So you talk about Markstrom. Same thing. I've been around goaltenders, you know, Red, you saw Kipper. Our team played so much different with Kipper in the net compared to McClennon. You knew exactly, like the drop off was, and honestly, my best game, Believe me, I was proud of my career, all of that. Amika Kippersoff was a special player. And it's rare that there's special players in that position nowadays.

Markstrom is a top-tier goaltender. He has the top-tier talent. Six-foot-six, good feet, good glove hand, handles the puck, has a good demeanor in the net. He checks a lot of boxes. Yes, he didn't play well last year. And, you know, in Vancouver, he was their MVP for two years. Kame had an off year, then was brilliant with Daryl, was Vezna, finalist. Like,

goaltending is a fickle position, but I look at the raw skill. Markstrom says, you know, he's one of the top tier guys. So when they have that force field around them, you're like, it doesn't matter what we're doing in front of them. This guy's going to give us a chance. And that's what I'm seeing at a Markstrom right now.

I've told this story before numerous times over the years. We're, I'm playing in Buffalo. I got traded to Buffalo. It's 1999. We're playing Ottawa in the first round. And that Ottawa lineup had everyone. Alfredson, Hosa, the It was deep and good.

And I can remember sitting in the room in Ottawa before game one, looking around in the dressing room, getting putting skates on, going from player to player going, holy shit, like we're hooped. Like, how are we even in the same spot as these guys? Like, how are we going to beat these guys?

And honestly, it was like, it's in a movie in my head. I'm scanning the room, scanning the room, scanning the room. And, oh, yeah. That guy. That guy. That's how we're going to do it. And I was looking at Haschik.

And the whole room knew that's how we were going to do it. And I think in the first game, he made 42 saves. Yeah. Like, it's infectious. And it's what you just said. The confidence comes. Look around the room. You're like, how are the feeling am I going to, like, how are we going to shut these guys?

Oh, yeah. This guy. He real good. But you can see it now. And I'll go back even watching that Euler team, the start of the year. They couldn't get a save. They couldn't get anything. And you could just see the bench just sag.

Play different. You can see bench as sag when they don't trust what's going on in between the pipes. Like it's like we can't. And it's almost like there's like that unwritten rule. They look at each other on the bench go, guys, we can't. We got to play a safe game here. We can't, you know, play a high-risk game. We got to give up 15 shots tonight, and that might not even get it done.

If you don't trust what's going on in between the pipes. Believe me, I've seen that look. I've witnessed it. I've been that look. Nowadays, when I'm in between the benches, I can see the sagging. And it's an unwritten thing, but I don't know how many teams, like, goalies are going to give up goals. It's the timely saves. like you just know hey i give up a bad chance that goalie he's there for me now i go and relax and play

i don't know i don't know how many even the emotion even the emotion of it noodles you know what it's like you're on the bench and there's a slight turnover it's not even a bad play but the other team has just above average scoring opportunity because of it and your whole emotion and your whole demeanor as a team and as a person is different when you've got a vesna caliber goalie in that as opposed to just a regular goal. Yeah. Regular goalie. Holy.

You tighten up and there's like you expend energy worrying about it. Hold your breath going. Yes. Are we going to get a save here on a routine shot? Yeah. Then the guys on the ice are that they're feeling it too. Subconsciously you're like, I got to clear the puck immediately because if I leave it laying around

so that you don't make the play that's there, you just get the damn thing and clear it. And then the snowball starts. and instead of playing the game, you're just playing like a 44 used to. So you need to give us the punchline last night because you didn't give us at noodles. The Sends were up 4-2. What was the final score against Colorado? 7-4 for Colorado.

Worst leading hockey. That's five unanswered if you need help with math. Well, there was an empty netter. Well, that's still a goal, yeah. It's still a goal. If you're up 4-2 and there's an empty-netter, it should be yours, right? we're on the same page there. I don't know if you guys remember

Louis DeMing got thrown into the playoffs in that quadruple like overtime. Wasn't he with the Rangers and I think they threw him in there and he, they asked him afterwards, he did a walkoff. I think it was against Pittsburgh and they said like,

you know, were you nervous? Were you guys eating? And he said we had the spicy pork and beef or whatever. Yeah, pork and broccoli. That's right. Yeah.

Spicy pork and broccoli, not the best. And he goes, not the best. best. Not the best. That's what I was watching last night. At 4-2 and then 4-3 and then 4-4, 5-4, 6-4. I'm like, ah, this is Louis Doming. Not the best. So what does the color analysts do in those situations to kind of spin the positive narrative? Well, honestly, like there was a, there was one game in Vancouver just before it came to Calgary. They were losing 5-0, 17 minutes into the game. You turn the podcast into a podcast. You just start talking about anything.

Because if people are watching, think of this, if you're in Ottawa and you're stayed up to watch that, it's a Vancouver 730 start. That's a 10.30 start. And you're down five Cobb 15 minutes. The people that are still hanging around to watch, you've got to entertain them. And believe me, we haven't had a podcast game in a while where it's been a blowout where you just start talking about the weather and talking about other stuff because you're like, you can't break down all these plays. Last night, the Sends were up, literally.

What is going on? Is that a blizzard? Yeah, they have. Yeah, there's a lot of travel bans going on. I was going to say it's a travel ban. I saw one of the play-by-play guys. He's like, I'm not sure if we're going to have the Sabres game tonight because we're not allowed to travel. It got postponed. Didn't you just see the email?

Did it come out? Yeah. Yeah, got postponed. own. Could have moved anywhere, right? Buffalo, right? You're on mute, right?

Oh, sorry. I just, you said weather, so I had to show the weather. No, but that's the stuff. Like you, for the most part,

it's been very competitive, but it's, you know, a game like that, like Colorado just, and they were in a back-to-back situation. You knew they were pissed off.

They'd lost in Montreal the night before. You're like, okay, they're going to be in one tonight. And they found a way. They played this guy, Eustis Ananan,

on an instance is like fourth career game and of course he stands on his head so i saw only allowed four noodles only four yeah he only gave up four and stood on his head but you know that's the game so yeah i that i didn't want to bury the punchline there or you know but i just it was a rough night seven four so we'll see how it goes against montreal tomorrow i'm flying back to ottawa doing that game tomorrow makes those young guys tougher makes the broadcasters tougher too noodle so you You're a better man for it, right? When things finally turn around and the senators are winning all these games, it's these tough times that you'll look back on and really now be able to enjoy the games.

Well, I'm glad that we've solved the life's problems for the Calgary Flames in the 45 minutes I've been here. Well, Conroy doesn't do anything. He tunes into the show and just follows our lead. So he will, yeah, if you ever need him to accomplish something, just. Just to hide them right now. You don't need to call him. Yeah. Yeah, we got him on speed dial.

He's been tuning in exactly. But honestly, there is lots of work to be done. But you know what? The more they win, you're almost dealing from a position of strength. You can hold on. You can kind of, like I like this. I think, you know, that's what the focus should be is that Sharon Povich and guys like Azari and is that his name?

Sharon Govich, yeah. Govich. What did I call it? Maria Sheridan. Yeah, Mori Polich. Yeah, Mori Polich. And I do play by- Do you get Maria here?

Her own the power. That's why. That's why you want those guys to be like, I'm not, I don't want that guy to touch the puck tonight. And of course, he scores the OT winner. And that was a rocket of a shot. Like that, that kid could shoot the puck. Yes, he can.

Yeah. Good for him. Are you at the casino? Quick, quick shoe at the blackjack table before. No, I'm actually in, I'm at home in my home office there. There's me and Grant Fear. Yeah, there we are. There's my craft dinner box that I was on the back of a craft dinner box in 1994.

I don't know if you guys. Yeah. Those great heights to hear. Wow. I'm about that. I mean, did someone, did you take the cheese out of it and use it?

Is that why it's all right? I haven't eaten it yet. I probably probably be pretty good, don't you think? 1990. My Nana bought a whole case of them. Yeah. I found like three of them still. So I've got a few of them on my shelf.

Your kids, when they get older, they're going to get drunk, come home hungry. Exactly. There we got to. Or their dad will be out by the pool and get all hammered up. I'm going to make some craft dinner. Some 1994 craft dinner. Brett's got a full box in his basement, but that's his doomsday food. That's when the world ends, he's going to eat it. So that's tomorrow if it keeps snowing.

Yeah. Nice to see you cash in on the big endorsement deal with the whole noodles thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's good. I love it. I mean, like I said, I'm disappointed. I didn't pull up the cove soda, but I had my protein shake here.

So that's what it is. We're all good. All right, James. Appreciate your pal. Have a good way. There he is. James, joining us on the insider hotline, a presentation of Tell us.

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you talk about who do you keep, who do you trade, who do you sign all of this? Their power play continues. Now, the game winner is on a power play in overtime. Their power play continues. I just look, they're still 28th, 13.7%. Yeah. Watching that game last night, that's what I was thinking about.

I was like, this team's playing really well. If you could add 5% success to that power play, you are. Yeah. Now it's not tight all the time. You've got like, it would make a huge difference. Well, last night it's down one nothing and it's a shorty that's got them down one nothing, right? It's your own power play that surrendered the goal and they were 0 for four at one point before overtime. You're thinking, shit, if they lose this, this is entirely a game that they should

of one if their power play is just okay. Yeah. You said, you said it, it was either last week or yesterday or whatever it was, they're not getting blown out. No, even in games that they lose, they're kind of right there. If your power, Christ, they've scored 10 shorthanded goals and 19 power play goals. It's wild. How the hell? They're, they're offensively challenged only on the man advantage.

I don't know where they are in terms of goals for in the, in the NHL. lead-wide, but I said it yesterday. They, they're having some success offensively. I don't know how sustainable it is, but they're finding ways to score. There's some chemistry between the lines, but the rig and power play continues to be an issue. And it's going to be a real issue if they continue to have some success in the wind column here. They are exactly middle of the pack and goals four in this league. 3.16. They're tied with Florida.

That's 15th and 16th in the league. Yeah. So you would expect, well, our power play should at least be middle of the pack. I guess. I don't know how you qualify it or quantify it. But yeah, it's been bad. I've liked it a lot more. It's been better lately for sure.

I think it was tough to delete Huberto for one game there because they had a little mo I thought going. And last night, I didn't mind the power plays in the first period. But after that, it was just, oof. I haven't gained the zone. Yeah. Sharon Govich can shoot the puck. Well, give it to him then, savvy it.

We said it last night. How eff and hard is it? On Afterburner. Jay. They go into, they get a power play with 157 left. It's a four on three. Igor Sharon Govich doesn't shoot the puck until the game's over. That was his first shot.

It's like, how are you not running everything through his shot? He's your best finiture. It's a four on three. Stop teeing up defensemen for one time. Yeah, especially when you're, looking for answers. Yes. Let's try this.

It's right there. Because you do see Anderson or Hannifin or Weger taking. It feels like the majority of the shots and they're from well out. Yeah. I don't know. Try anything. I'm telling you, get frigging Coronado up here.

Get that frigging power. If you're serious about all this, your power play can go a long way. Don't worry about trades or anything else. If your power play can, like you say, Red, you're going to get another goal. every other game here and there.

Yeah. There's no reason they should be nearly nearly at the bottom. 28th. Not 13%. If the bottom is 18%. Okay, well, whatever. Right? Like 13% is very low. Awful. And they've surrendered shorties too. Like it's, they've had five shorties

scored against them. That's not good. That's bottom third of the league type stuff. It's funny. They have some kids coming, but it's not the areas you'd love to see the kids coming. And I think they got two wingers that could really help this team in the very near future. That's Pellche, that's Coronado. And that's top nine. That's not like rolling a Klapka or Pedersen through the fourth line.

They don't have D that are ready for minutes. Like, Porier, this is bad time for a serious slice that he took this year. And he's still a guy that I think is very, very high-end risk reward, run your power play, third pair maybe. Like, he's not necessarily a top four guy. And they don't centers. You know, maybe Zeri will be, but it would be. be totally cruel to slide him to a new position in his rookie year when, you know,

you've seen how good he's been on the wing with, with Godry. If they had a centerman coming and a D man coming, I think this deadline's way easier for Connie. Did they draft some kid last year, a defenseman? Yeah, they took Poria and, or Moran in the second round. Moran, yeah. Out of the Q. And again, very, very high offensive OQ, IQ.

Can he play D? And that was sort of the rep on Porre as well. They slide because you wonder if they can defend. Well, that was the Shillington thing, right? Yep. Yeah, he was a year out top five projection. And it's like, it takes a while. And to be fair with Chilinton, he was playing against men when he was drafted.

And he took a lot of time in the A, but he figured it out. It just takes time. And maybe Hansek is a center, but like there's just, that's a maybe at best. They don't have centers coming. Take much time. Wasn't that? It didn't take me much time. to go right switch the center or figure out offense top top five's top five talent right you always

had the defense event figured out I would hold well I had the weight and the reach the arms poke check in clutch and grab with the best of them I don't is right in this all this though it is now a position of strength for Connor all of it explain how well okay we'll go back to October. The whole league is, I guarantee you, he had a hundred offers. Oh, yeah. I see what you're saying. All of them shitty.

All of them gross, but the wrestling. So this rookie GM with the shit team with terrible effort. These guys don't even care or try. The city's turning on them. They're brutal. Nobody likes them. It's been a year and a half of the same BS

efforts. He's going to have to make moves. He's got free agents. And he can't keep the it was a shit storm for him it was brutal he can put his feet up and go i'll make i'll just make the playoffs fellas let's go there's one area that's not the strength though and that's the closer this team looks like a team that can compete the harder it is to sell the owner on retooling and selling guys then that's fine it's still an easier spot for him because they are competing and playing well they're 1911 and four you see i don't i don't think it's a fugazi like i don't I don't think this is smoke and mirrors.

There's something to this. So if you get there and just miss and you, you re-sign Hanifin or you keep, let's say because of the depth that they'll make moves, you keep Tannafin, you don't, or Tana, Tanaf, Tenev, you keep him just because, well, like you say, do we take a late second round or a third, or do we just keep him and we continue to push?

We're going to keep them. I don't think that sets you back a ton. I think you've seen enough from your young guys, you're seeing enough from some of the guys that are here that I think, I think, like us, I think Conroy's in a spot where I am, I'm coming around a bit on this team that they're not what we thought of the start of the year.

Now, is that, uh, give us some play by play. Knock on the window. Knock on the window and wave. She's got to get a stiff back if she's going like that. Break it. She got some AirPods in. what a gal should I open the window and yell at her

yes just tell her nice work hun tell her she missed a squat hey she flipped the bird yeah yeah she gave us the bird oh that's so good she got to use her legs more red that's just brutal put your back into it

oh wow no uh yeah oh she's going fast now. Oh, sorry, go ahead. We're back to on top. If I'd asked you this summer, the worst spot in the standies, the flames could finish. What would you say? Right now, they're in it. They are in it. But they've changed everything. But they've changed everything. I agree. Both things can be true. Like, I feel so much better about this group. The position the GM is. And he's not selling as many distressed assets as you thought he was going to have to. And we thought maybe Coronado was going to be good. We thought, Maybe Pelchay was going to make the jump and show us what he is. Those two guys really haven't. But what we've been handed is two young guys that are making an impact on every game. I mean, I'm being dramatic.

They are. They are. To varying degrees, they are. And that's from their best line since they put them together in Seattle like two and half months ago. It's wild how good they've been. You still don't know what your most desirable asset is. And that's that wolf kid.

You think you know. But my point is they've already got two kids. Yeah. You didn't think. So those, I wasn't convinced. I think Pellcha played well. I'm, I'm still not convinced that he's going to be as impactful as Zari or Zeri.

What I'm saying it is. Right. But you've inserted two kids, basically, in this lineup that you had, they weren't part of the discussion in the off season. Yeah. And so you've immediately catapulted yourself forward. I don't know. You know what it is too?

I think in the past few years, there's been expectations. Oh, this team could be good. Remember going into last year, this team might be better than the Kitchuk and Godro team. There is teams, people are going to win the cup team. So then when you finish in that mucky middle,

it's, yeah, it's disappointment because you didn't make it. And you got all of that. I think it's, because I don't know what the, I don't think there were expectations on this team going into the year. And if you.

There was. Sorry, I'm going to interrupt you because there were a lot of people that had expectations think if they were going to bounce got good blah, blah, blah. But then they came out and played that way. Yeah. It looked like the Darrell team for the first 10 games, right? Yeah. It looked like a team that didn't want to work. They have bounced back.

The interesting to see what the record was last year this time. I could find that out. Like, I'm not, I'm not looking to read in and throw Jamie under the bus or anything. But you know he talks to Dregs and those guys. he's at the TSN headquarters. He would be piled in for sure. Because I'm with you. If Bowen Byram's available.

And it's, right? Is he available? Probably not. Would they part with him in a deal that they think could put them over the top? Okay. Even if he is that guy, I would be. Where was he drafted third overall or something like that?

Hi. I can look it on. Like, I just think what's happening? happened to him and what is the player? Because I think we're all in love with the draft slot and how highly touted he was. Not necessarily, Ryan. We didn't like where he was drafted and how he was a prospect? No, I'm not saying,

that that's the only reason. We watched him play in the playoffs a couple years ago. He's had some injury issues. Did he play in the playoffs two years ago? I thought he was hurt. Between the world juniors. He played 20 games. Number four.

Okay. He played 20 games in, uh, 21, 22 in the playoffs for the I don't know what he is, is what I'm saying. I love the name. I'm just wondering. 130 points or sorry, pardon me, 130 games played 55 points.

22 years of age. It's the type of guy Colorado locks up and never moves, if we're being honest, right? Cranbrook, BC, come back home, playing for the flames fans. All I'm saying, go get him. If he's available, go get him. If he's available,

go get him. That's the type of player. you would love to get back as opposed to quantity. We'll give you a pick and another pick and a couple guys that you're going to have to use hockey DB to find out who the fuck they are. I agree. And again, if you're making deals with Colorado and Boston, like you're talking about pick 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32.

You can swing and miss there, easy. I think you always make the hockey trade. And I never got to this final point I was trying to make with noodles. I think you always make a good hockey trade if you can. But it does make a difference that it's Colorado. it's a team you could play in the first round you give like whatever that if it's a you know we're just bullshitting and talking out of her but if it's lindholm and something and you get back like you you've stacked Colorado as well like you you you think you're going to get through them

you have to you've you've helped their cause yeah injuries look at that hey four seasons look at the numbers played yeah yeah that's probably why he's available i'm just trying to make sense of it all right like this is supposed to be a star but remember If Colorado, and I'm not, I'm just, if I'm Colorado and if I'm considering moving a guy like this, then it's got to be somebody we think is a difference maker. And I know that Landis Cog, if we talked about him last week and then, oh, Landis Cog is skating. There's a chance he could be back for the playoffs.

Now, because of the surgery, there's no guarantees there. But if they look around and they, and if they covet a guy like Lindholm, a centerman who can come in and play with some elite level players, We've seen how he does with elite level players. Yep. And we've got Kail McCar and Taves and you go down the line. It's a position of strength. You have to give to get sometimes. No question.

It's not the craziest thing. There's, I guess, I'm not even red flags. I'd be like, well, why isn't he untouchable? He's a fourth overall pick. Yeah. But young, good, young players get traded sometimes. And to your point, it is an area of strength. It's Taves McCar, Gerard Manson is their top four right now.

He's a top four guy. He's also hurt right now, which is very on brand, as you've seen from the hockey DB page there. It's the type of asset you would love to get. If you're Joe Sackick, I think you'd be saying, take our first. We want to keep this guy, but I get it. Like if that's the, if you're one piece away and you think you can hang a banner, of course you move this guy. Because what is, and I'm really putting it. people on the spot. Now, what is their, I mean, we know who's, what their top line is.

What is their depth down the middle for, for Colorado? Well, the Chuskin just got, he's a winger, but he's just going to player assistance. They got Ross Colton, who they brought in from Tampa. Ryan Johansson has been moved down the lineup. He's always been a skill, but not the blue color, right? Yeah. They've got guys, but Lindholm's better than both those guys. For sure. Yeah. And cap wise, you. You know, there's more challenges there, I'm sure, but it's, I keep coming back to Boston, Colorado with Linholm.

And maybe Boston is bringing back Bergeron. That was an interesting little tidbit that Nudel said. Yeah. Because it just made no sense when this team is poised to win that they enter the season without their top two centers. And we'll just slide like geeky and coil and the rookie in there. You're like, is that really the plan? What else is happening here? Yeah.

But if you, you have all of a sudden that's Berger on Lindholm one, too? It was like, yeah, okay, they're back. That wouldn't surprise me in the least. There's some digging. That's your neck of the woods, right? Boss. It's going to be a fun little run here, isn't it? Should.

Because we don't know. It feels, we don't know which way this is going. And if they start to play like bleep, then, all right. So who are easy? Now you are trading more guys. Now you are shifting gears a little bit. And so who's it going to be? Yeah, then you're,

hockey D.B in or this potter kid and boss, or whatever else there is. But if they keep winning, okay, well, how do you straddle the line a little bit? Is that surprising that record since the outdoor game? 19, 11, and 4, that's a 618 points percentage. 618 is like not only playoffs. That's, that's home ice type record.

That's where I started. I thought the dollar run was going to kill. Remember I said if they could go 500 in the Gauntlet run, they can do it. And it was like, oh, boy, that takes going to suck. but here we are. When's December 23rd? Because Fat Face here told you that,

let's just get to Christmas and I'll tell you what we're the bear shits and the bull rushes. I'll let you know what's going on with this team. Hey, just wait till the 23rd of December. To be fair, by Christmas next year, we will know how Thursday. I didn't say what year. I didn't tell you what year it was going to be. Yeah, 618 has them like, yeah,

second or third in every division in the league. And I'm right when I say this. I'm speaking for the group. We don't think this is smoking mirrors because that happens sometimes. They're playing way over their heads. They aren't this good. They may not be this good. Like you say, 618 good, but there's, there's something there.

Yeah, they might not be 618 good, but they also shouldn't have been 2.5 and whatever it was. Yeah, 2.7 and 1 to start a year. They weren't, they shouldn't have been that bad. They played that badly. now they've played that well. So. And we talked about it.

Okay, so you get a Toronto team, it's, it's, you know, spin the narrative how you want. If Toronto's playing great, it's like, oh, you don't want to play them now. Toronto's playing like shit. They've blown leads in four straight. Oh, they're going to be angry. Like, no matter what it is, it's, you can spin it as this is a trouble for Calgary. Edmonton, if they'd lost the tough one, oh, they're going to be grumpy. Instead, they went 11 in a row.

Oh, they're just playing great. I mean, you could still lose these two games and have an awesome homestand. You've got St. Louis, Columbus, Chicago after them, and you've won the opener of the homestine. Well, you've got your built-in excuse as well if Markstrom doesn't play. Well, we didn't have Marks. But I just, whatever it is, I don't see this team not showing up to be part of the game. It's not the opposite or fear last year. Yes.

Yes. Like, if they just showed up and worked, they would have got two points tonight. And the shitty part of it last year was that they would actually show up against good teams and try to compete and maybe not win because they weren't as good as a real good team. And then the flat teams, they just didn't bother to show up. So it was a real combination. Whereas I don't see that. They had that one flat game against Chicago. I still, I mean, it was a weird weekend of hockey with Philly in an afternoon.

And then Chicago the next day. Excuse us. You've not seen them have very many flat efforts. And last night was a flat effort. They still get a win. Minnesota, early December and Chicago. Those are the only two disappointing games, basically, since we got out of November. And you can pass the, who you consider to be elite, they will have the same story.

There's been a handful of games maybe at this point halfway through that they look at and say, yeah, we were no good. We had no business winning and we didn't. So let's do the Pinder report. It's a presentation of Village Honda. My understanding is road conditions, not ideal out there. Maybe this is. Well, Rhett showed us what's going on in Buffalo. It's much the same here, I think, Retro.

The school buses and city buses and everything, it's not great. Let's go to our intrepid producer, Jack, who's actually in the traffic helicopter. Jack, let's go to you now. Not good, not good. Two hour drive today. Oh. Yeah. So I live in Cranston and I can either go Deerfoot or Stoney.

and I make that decision every day. Stony has never failed me until today. Brutal trash. Hopefully everyone's okay. Thanks for RJ for filling in as well. But it was a long drive. I was going zero. Are you,

you're in the studio? I'm here yet. Yeah. I just think I'd have turned around. Why are you in studio? I called Ryan at 8.20. I said, this isn't looking good, buddy.

He said, I need you here. And I sent it. What a dick you are. Why? Department of Discipline filming after this. We've got another show to do. So what does that mean? That means we got to set up the gear in the other studio.

Hmm. Hmm. You're not capable of moving cameras? I don't think you're allowed to put another human in harm's way. Could Jack have talked you through that? Could he have talked you through that over the phone? We talked about what our options were today. We both thought that him coming in was the best idea.

But I guess it's not what. Yeah. Thanks, Jack. Just railroad is. It is the Pender Report, so spin it, I see. We will. I think either way we were getting to the point, it's probably time for a nice, reliable vehicle, Dean.

Is that where we're headed? That's where we were going, Ryan. I get in. You want reliability, more than anything else, whether it's in co-workers or in a quality, newer used vehicle. Huge selection of used over at Village, all makes all models.

You know what? They'll even take one of those, the backpack snowboard. Oh, I like those. Yeah, I need one of those. I want two of them. I can only use. one at a time, but I feel like I need two of them.

It'd be cool if you had a bunch of guys with them. It would be walking around like Ghostbusters. That'd be unreal. Yeah, man. 70 units on site, more than 400 within the dealership group. Make Village Honda your one-stop. Automotive destination in Calgary.

They're worth the trip. Village Honda, Northwest Automol and online at VillageHonda.com. Present the Pinder Report. Start last night. At the dome, first of a six-game homestand. The flames were flat. But somehow, picked up two points. Let's go to Afterburner to find out how.

Dan Vlodar, I guess, just thoughts on him, because we knew this morning after Markstrom was announced day to day. He knew, for the better part of probably 24 hours, he was going to be going in. Thoughts on him? This is good to see from Dan Vlodar. This is the Dan Vlodar you're hoping to see if you're Craig Conroy or anyone else, because frankly, goaltending is a real big part of winning 6 of 8 in January.

And that didn't stop tonight. I thought Ingram was very good, but Vlodar, two breakaways, three against, I guess if you count overtime, time like there's one miss net and two really big saves a second opportunity off the break away from coolly and i'm looking the second sucker is sucker coming in following the play um really good yeah yeah it was not one of those nights where anybody could have tended the net and they would come away with a win i have can i sorry i don't want to interrupt you right away the bladard is lovely he's wonderful i have a request because i think it's going to come to an end at some point soon your hand you're

hair is wonderful, I don't want you to cover it. For the, for the, for the, however long you've got, ooh, however you've got, how long you've got left with that, I need, I don't want, because I see on the afterburner, you look beautiful, then you got a two on today. Come on. It's a no shower, no shower pre-work. This is what, this is what I roll out of bed looking like, hey, baby. Let it flow.

A little morning delights, huh? The boss is. I try and explain to people that most humans, when you wear a hat or a two, you. You take it off and it's just your hair is just sucked right down to your skull. There's, I mean, what the hell is happening on your head? There's a current running for that, man. Oh. Yeah, it's something.

And I'm glad you brought it up, Red, because that is the first thing that I was drawn to when that clip started was, that's quite there. Yeah. Last night's hair, suck on this. Let's take a look at the standings team. What are we doing here? There's the cutoff for the wild card, fellas.

Don't end up there. Oh, my God. They're in peak pain spot in the standings. Impressive stuff. They're going to catch Nashville. They're doing it. They've looked better than Nashville. They've looked better than Arizona in recent classes with both those clubs.

They're certainly not in the same echelon as Edmonton, unfortunately. I think they can be better than Seattle. I don't know about St. Louis. Minnesota's missing half of their team. Why not the flames is probably the question. Fans are asking themselves right now when you look at that final playoff spot. Schedule, we talked about it.

They're at home till the All-Star break. Then the CBA break. They won't go on the road again until Feb 6th, where they're in Boston. Maybe just drop Lindoam off right there. Does that work for you? Toronto, Edmonton, and then St. Louis, Columbus, Chicago next week.

All right. A couple high-flying offenses Thursday, Thursday, Saturday. and then look at next week. You got to beat if you want to get in. Will you win one of those games? Split with these two, yeah. Split one of these, the next two and win the next week. One, two, three, four, like, what are you going to be?

What's the math out up to as far as games over 500 at that point? Well, there's three over now, if I'm correct, is that right? Three over, so four or five, maybe six games over 500 at the All-Star break. Oh, baby. You're, what do you, there's, you can't sell. What if they take two of three? If you can get a split here, take two of three. Even then, I think five or six games over 500 at the All-Star break is.

That would be a four and two homestand. You know, that's very good. That's 66 hockey. Pretty, pretty, pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty pretty. No, they were five. Sorry, Ryan.

I was going to say they were five, six and two in December. They're six and two now in January, correct? So already. Six of eight in Jan. At the halfway point, they've surpassed their win total from December. Chances to make it. Let's take a peek. What do we got here?

Oh, there's the old Betway app, fellas. Oh. Betw? Yeah. Plus 140. Keeping on that number. And yeah, by the All-Star break, might be a very different looking number.

We shall see. I want to remind you, you're at the game. game last night. We got some free game and free at Greta. Our pals at Greta, anytime Flames went in OT, they're just going to shower you in riches. Last night's example of it, a $100 gaming voucher. You know those cards? It gives you credits on the machines. Jesus. Oh, no. A lot of Mortal Kombat, friends, and I'm all for it. Let's go. So how do you just show up at Greta with your proof of? Yeah, just say, hey, here's my ticket or I was here. This is

whatever. Where you go? Gaming card. Go get it. Nice. That's a in fellas that's a big win. Thanks Greta. Thanks, big time. Mario card still. The multiplayer, tons of fun. That's the move right there. Loser has tequila shots. Is that what it is, Dean?

How does it go? So yeah, I think, well, that's how you, that's how it goes for some people, yes. Better be good, because it's not going to get easier driving after five of them. Usually, no. Okay, so Toronto and Emmetton are the next two opponents. Teams in very, very, very different spots psychologically. The Maple Leafs have blown four leads in their last

four games to lose them all. Here's a quick look at them playing defense. You can also go to. I like that. It could also be the no metal detector security guy. That's right. Yeah. That's one of my favorite names.

Meanwhile, the Oilers, other end of the spectrum, let's have a listen to this one as our boy Jack Michaels brings them home. 11 straight for Edmonton from the depths of 30th place on the national. to a team that refuses to let this streak die for twos your final. It would be a shame if that streak died on Saturday in Jasper, wouldn't it? Yeah, we're not saying they have to miss the. They're 11th in the NHL, and the smugometer is already redlining. Like, we cannot have this go much longer for Oilers fans.

Now, that being said, we felt fairly smuggy ourselves early on in the year. Were we? We knew this was coming. Yeah, but we still enjoyed it. There was a lot of, we had, it's fine, I'm fine with it. I'm just, just Saturday.

Dear hockey gods, Dean, please, uh, grow, bow your head with me. Dear hockey gods, we don't ask for much here. We're not even asking for a lottery win, never mind four and seven years. Just a measly win Saturday in Calgary.

Against the rivals that failed their way into the guest, the best player that's ever played the sport. Thank you. Amen. Hallelujah. Okay. That's done. Sweet. Sweet jebus. Alex Barkhobs dinged up, fellas. Oh, Florida. We're going to take our time with him.

Take him up. Yeah. Come up. We want him to completely heal. If he's at 95%, he's not going to go in on that one. We've got to get back to 100 because the way he plays, we don't think it'll take too long to do that. This guy is going to go on a Berger on Tai Peter, I believe, with the Selki. This is just the Barcove trophy for the next five years. I get the sense. he's been sensational.

You guys mentioned the Selkie yesterday. Coleman, do swingers ever win the Selky? Yes. You could do like a Mark Stone type thing, but very rarely. It's often centers. And deservedly so. Lots of defensive responsibility. Whatever.

Let's go to the Buffalo where we have men on the ground and women shoveling the streets. There it is. We need to get, this is Kristen, someone on Twitter here. We need some verification from Ruffalo. Brett, just saw a TikTok, and apparently bills are building a new stadium and so far it's just a big pit in the ground. Five games ago, a fan fell into the pit and they won. Was it a fan?

A fan sacrifices themselves to the pit before every single game, and they've won every single game. I'm dead serious. Ret, can we get a pit update? I'm unsure of the falling into the pit scenario. I knew there was someone that fell into the pit and it shit himself and was all drunk up. Yeah, we saw that. Yeah, that's right.

Real mess. So I hope they're not all following. Yeah, do they all have to be exact same? One a week. Fill to the brim with crystal meth and shit themselves? Or can you just kind of roll down the hill and end of the bottom? Whatever it takes for the Super Bowl, friends. Could you find one volunteer a week in Buffalo to do that if it was guaranteeing a Super Bowl?

Yes. Give me the bath salts right now. They'd fill the pit with people. That was going to help. This is a nice. Unfortunately, this is in Tampa where, what is it, Todd Bowles, their head coach. He was asked about, well, traveling to Detroit. And I think we had a very green reporter.

Maybe someone from news had to cover for sports that day, Dean, that'll happen. Very short staff these days of the media. Let's have a listen to the question. Coach, looking forward towards Detroit. The weather has been a factor in some of the playoff games, even for the most prepared teams. Today, it's 13 in Detroit, which doesn't come. compared to some of the temperatures you can talk to. Any special plans to acclimate the team

to not only endure, but perform in those kind of frigid temperatures should you face them in Detroit? You do know we play indoors right in the other dome. I don't. Fire! Nothing planned. We're indoors and we have to be outside for 20 seconds getting off the bus going under the thing,

so we'll be okay. 20 seconds. You're fired. feel so bad for that woman. That's not what's real. I don't feel bad. You're an idiot. And what's great is they've only played indoors in Detroit for about 50 years because even before Ford Field, they were at the Silver Dough.

So a relatively new development, this indoor football thing for the Detroit Lions. How do you show your face the rest of the day there? Just get your bag and leave. You're done. Are you not shit canned with that? Like I said, I can't be a sports reporter. No one gets fired.

Just, you can go cover something else. Yes. Yeah. Ooh. Anyway, got a kick out of that. Thought you'd like it.

And she, and dug into it. Oh, yeah, really stretched it out there. Like, how are you? You guys,

we're in Florida. The answer is so good. And I thought Bulls rode the line pretty good of being, uh, hey, stupid and being respect. Uh,

we were playing indoors. You know that, right? No, we're not making for the 22nd walk from the bus to the building. We're not really doing a whole lot to acclimatize ourselves. Guys, do you miss Ozzy Brad? I do. Oh, where is he? He heard from our friend.

Well, he checked in on the Holiday Spirit show. Yes, he did. I don't know why I was thinking about him. I was watching some English premiership yesterday and just thought like, man, where's Ozzy Brad? Where's Ozzy Brad? Yeah, maybe it was these jerseys that we saw. I don't know if we can zoom in on those. was but what is

him? No. What are this saying, Dean? I can't. Nope. I can't. You know my eyes are bad. Rhett?

Okay. Is he the muted or he's not answered? I don't read French. So I, you know, I can't. We'll see you next Tuesday, fellas. See you next time. I actually wrote it.

I read it, but it was muted. Let's go to Buffalo, I assume, above ground pool here. And with the trampoline in the backyard, it's got to be Rob Reyes. I'm thinking. Let's go in for a live look. Oh, if he hits the bottom of that pool. I know, it's going to hurt me.

I know, it's going to hurt. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Come on, Rob. Bang. Is he dead? We've had a few near-death sides of the upground, above ground pool. Much more dangerous. Didn't realize it. People should be cut in half on like 10 videos we've seen.

Oh, my God. Now, we talked about percentages earlier. in the show. Yeah. What, what was the percentage that that was going? How was that supposed to end? If you're a professional trampolinist, trapezius, whatever the hell they're called,

I don't, that's a tough move for even them. Trapezius, yeah. He's going to have a sore trapezius for sure after this one. My God. And look at that decent form. No, good night, sweet prince. He did have a good form. I think he felt like he had it.

I think he did. Yeah. Someone moved that trampoline on him because he was another foot. Yeah, move it a little further back. I can make that. I got it. I got it. One more. What the hell? One more foot. And no one was the beauty of it was nobody's cheering him on. No one's. Yeah, the wife basically calls. Right. Everyone's like you're an idiot. Don't do it. And no one, yeah, because no one is cheering him on and no one is saying, no, don't do this. This is dangerous.

So I go, all right. Let's take a look. See. Oh, you didn't make. Now, you guys have made toast before I imagine. I love, well, nice cold day like this. Like cheers? No, like hot chocolate. You cut it in the strips. You dip it in the hot chocolate. The toast and the hot chocolate.

Oh. Yup. Delicious. You've never made toast like this, I'm guessing. So I just want to take it. Someone's having a great start to the day. Let's watch this here. Which is it down.

He's on a swing. It's at some workshop here, Red. He's with the knife with the peanut butter. Right. Yeah. Trying to pop it. Pop it. Pop it now.

Come on. We saw that ending coming. I didn't see that ending coming, actually. That's what your face looks like when a bolt of electricity goes through you. And no, I'll just hold on to the swing. No, you can't. You've been electrocuted. You're a man down.

That's a D-shirt. So there again, what was the possible outcome of that? Was he just going to grab a piece of toast and then put the peanut butter on instead of getting electrocuted? It's beautiful stuff. Also, a trapezeist of some sort. Yes. Phineas. It's a trapezius.

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That's, uh, those are the ones that resonate with us, which I don't know what that says about us. But it's, uh, here, oh, here's a, uh, power play goal from the game last night. here's a guy getting his dick caught in the dryer. Yeah? Okay, let's take a look. I can't wait. Play it again. Play it again.

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We're here for you, buddy. Yeah, he said he was buying. I just suggested to him. I said, are you sure? Now, abandoning the Cowboys, it seems like that's on Vogue. There's a lot of people doing that. I said, are you sure? He said, or Detroit.

I just love the small market fan bases. So, Greg, come down. Sunday, 6.30. We'll go get here early. We'll go shopping with you. I'll get your supplies. We can work together. We can coordinate a beautiful meal.

We'll do our best to actually I don't want you to have to work when you come just show up we're going to go down to the stadium. We're going to cruise around. We're going to see some of my buddies. You're going to have some great food. Show you what it's all about. We'll throw you in the pit. Yeah. It'll be awesome.

Yeah. I'll tell your wife about that part. But yeah. Yeah, we'll fill you right up with some crystal meth. Throw you in the hole. Dig you back out again. It'll be a great time. Just a great time.

Yeah, I don't know. Travel ban, eh? be tough for Greg to get there I don't know Is it going to clear up by Sunday? What are we looking at there? Oh yeah. Are they paying people another 20 bucks an hour

to empty the stadium of snow? No, they built the roof. Oh, they did. This week they threw a roof up. Yeah. Seems smart. Get those questions in. Ask her at tomorrow for Bontan meat market.

Calgary tradition since 1921. There are only three games tonight. Three. Only three in the national hockey league. That's it. That's all. That's all. But yet we've managed to put together some Betway bets.

I know we're talking DoorDash. It's kind of the same thing. But we'll do some Betway bets for our buddies at Betway who are, we're going to see this weekend. They're coming out to Jasper. Goodness gracious. Now, are they playing? Are they throwing on the blades to take part in the Jasper Pond Hockey?

I'm getting conflicting scouting reports, but I think there may be at least one player, maybe two from Betway. nice we get deeper in mosser we're good it's not been the strongest scouting for this rent to me it sounds like you're talking about we're bringing back championship team pender is selling this squad like last year's flame squad where people are oh they're going to be better than the year before we're going to be unstop look at all the depth i don't like how this lineup is looking did you what did you see last year from the same lineup plus dean had the boom cat in there to motivate people and keep them honest. He was he was doing his thing.

And here's like a lot of people do this in life, Ryan. And I want you're young. So we've got to teach you. To compare yourself to shit. Does it make you good? We were great last year. We didn't even lose a game. You were not in Jasper.

I hate to tell you how the results went last year. Listen, I'm just saying there's a, there are a hall of famers crawling the streets of Calgary. are they and you've approached none of them you got like you've got no depth i think you're overestimating that you could continue at the pace you're you had last year i don't think he had incredible pace his pace is incredible or skating either yeah he and he and he and deep one high kick away from a pulled hammy and being on the i are like it's true yeah i might be uh i might be kicked out of the tournament after friday night al berger's gonna drop mits for opening face off friday night he's

told me, set in the tone. I said, game one against Leafs Nation, Rose Hill's going to be running around. Oh, yeah, is he ever? He's going to pop you right in the mouth. It's going to be a line for that, though. I think you should still, I think you got to look for a real ringer here in the last couple days, 48 hours you got to. We, we re-signed the leading score of the tournament last year, right? He's coming back to play for us again. We're good. Depth, Ryan. Depth. You don't know what some of these guys, they fly off the handle from. Friday night. They're not feeling well. They crap their pants.

The underpants cam that noodles talked about. What are you at a zero or a 50? Like, I don't. Hey, prove me wrong. It feels like you're the GM. Prove me wrong. But you're resting on your laurels. Who have you invited Dean for the team as the head coach and GM is. I'm not the G. I am not the GM.

This has been your baby. So you've probably extended all branches to at least a half dozen people, right? it's not it's not my role okay he's a scout he just how's the scouting doing he said i agree with red there's a lot of hall of famers around and you've talked crawling around on the street he said yeah it's all i can do well they're all old they paid in the 80s so those hall of famers are not really it's unfortunate i'm confident betway bets for tonight's uh i'm guessing you went with hockey i know that i took i saw your bets i've got a similar you similar with detroit and Tampa bay in the outdoor.

I don't outdoors. Outdoors. These games are they go outside and the weather. You can't trust it. God, the ice be shitty in Florida tonight. Hey, it's a one. Yeah, that's right. It'll be terrible down there. Sam Reinhart's having a hell of a year.

I don't know if you've noticed. It's a contract year. He's been dynamite. Yeah. Anytime goal for Reinhart pays plus 120, he has goals in seven straight games. Jeez. Nine goals in those, in those seven games.

I'll take in any time one, please, at plus 120. And a power play point or more pays 162, plus 162, he has power play points in six of his last seven games. So I am going to ride Ryan Hart into tonight's Wings Panthers matchup. And it's Matthew Kachuk, Bobblehead Knight. Oh, good. They'll be wound right up. I'm going to stay with the hot hand as well. First goal, that same game.

And Dean pays plus 700. Big day hot kid. I'm also going to jump on a Tage Thompson first goal of the game of plus 700 to Chicago's in Buffalo, but that game been wiped, I guess. Yeah, that's tomorrow. So we'll have to wait another 20. How's Tage doing? See, he was.

Had a kid. He was the talk of the town last year. I guess having a kid is a major. Don't do it. Uprooter for success in the NHL because there's a few guys. Is the kid arrived yet? Because that really messed up Markstrom. It was the whole pregnant thing that was bad for Markstrom.

Having the kid was great. It recently arrived, so I don't know that he's, he's certainly not set in the world, but on fire anymore, like last year. And their power play stinks too, and that guy can shoot the pocket. That's crazy with Dalline. Yeah. Oh, God, that's crazy. Okay, I'm going to start my goals and see where all tages here.

What the hell's going on here? Those are our Betway bets. Get the Betway up in your phone, your tablet, your, uh, your desktop and play along. Yeah, there's only three games. Actually, there's only two games tonight. How do you make them? interesting how do you make them fun you get involved with betway the official gaming partner of barbler it's not showing up on the first page jays i if you went back a year because i think it

was around christmas time last year thompson had almost 40 goals well but she's got he was right like he was lights out what are we doing tage red what did you make of the uh just kind of while Ryan was taking a look. The Kesselring hit on Connor Zerry last night. I talked to the bunch of people over the last weekend about hitting and stuff. And I think that guys are so not used to getting hit, they don't protect themselves. And anytime a guy gets hit, we overreact it. This is more of a shove into the goalie and then cross checks than a hit, if we're being fair, right?

This isn't a hit. Well, then I didn't see it. So here comes Zeri. Push him to the crossbar. Cross check to the mush. Another shot. And then one more for good measure. But what are you asking me to comment on?

What do you think of it? There were just some people that, is this going to send us to the league? Does Kessel Ring? Is he getting a game? Is he getting a fine for that one right there? And then there's no need. 14 goals for Tage.

There's no need, but. That seems like a $5,000 parking ticket, doesn't it? Yeah. I think they should make him a little lighter in the wallet, please. You won't notice, but yeah. Poor is, poor is airy. Who was it? No, it's Ben.

Yeah, in the playoffs. In the playoffs, right? It's similar, but it's completely different as well. Like, he cross-checks him in the arm-shoulders area. It's not. And Ben was measuring him from above, too. And I brought up last night on Afterburder, when Madjupatti this year

in Seattle against, I think it was Jared McCann or he was one of the forwards. When he crossed, he bounced his head off the ice and got, what did he get a game? But I still don't see, I'm a hypocrite because, yeah, it's not necessary, but I don't care. Like, Zari, get up.

And he did. He was out there for the PowerPoint. There's nothing to see there. No, right? Like, we all have this want to throw the book at everybody. Well, okay, go ahead. but that's the time since you're not that Zari's going to fight but that's where a fight's a good fight

yeah and Austerly chased him around the lines was got in the way they had like whatever it is it doesn't have to be but a reactionary a guy played him hard give him a bit of a you know sure it's a bit of a cheap shot absolutely but that's where it's like you i'm going to scrap you now you bastard right like that's where i want that emotion in the game and so i don't need the refs to yep give him a penalty absolutely but i don't need you to throw guys out of the game and try to take all the emotion out so that none of that ever happens i'm okay with a little bit of piss and vinegar let's have that there was one of those hits last night and it was blake coleman he was coming through the neutral zone and i think it was wasn't a derzy that stepped up on him and popped

him pretty good because coleman hasn't he's not going to get hit no one's hitting anybody anymore and then all of a sudden one guy to steps decides i'm going to step up this time Not last shift or the shift before, but this shift, and maybe not again for another 20 or 30 shifts. And you have popped on a good one. Whereas if you're used to getting hit, you're ready for that. It's just an observation, I guess. I'm not asking for more hitting.

I don't know that I terribly miss it. The game's pretty exciting and fun, but. Dumbah drilled Pospisole. Pospisole got them back with a little backwards check. There's some physicality. That's good. Oh, hit. It makes the games more interesting.

And to be honest with you, as a player, it hurts, but it gets you in the game. Right? Like, give a hit, take a hit. First shift, get into the game. Like it's the saying the oldest time for hockey where if you get hit or give a hit early in a game, you're probably in the game. You're probably going to play better. If you're floating through it, yeah, absolutely.

It's easier on the body and it doesn't sap your energy and this. But a little bit of physicality. and some shit disturbing. Good thing for the game. They miss that with Gilbert a bit. He's a guy that's played quite physically. It sounds like he's close. That is good.

He's been skating. Happy to hear it. Kind of losing my, the first thing that popped into my head was how far we think Pelchay is away, but I don't know that we really know because he's been skating. Your head coach said they're around.

It's good to get them in the environment and we'll learn a lot in the next week. So. And in that same vein, a lot of people ask, so what's, how's, how's Schillington? What's happening with Schillington? That's, you know, it's going to, he's going to have to be healthy. He's going to have to be ready.

He's going to have to feel right about everything. So to predict is, I would think Schillington's decision is 100% on Schillington. Yeah. Right. And he's just not healthy right now. Yeah. Growing right, let him play a bunch. He's feeling good.

His post game quotes were phenomenal. He was smiling ear to ear, talking about how much fun he had. That's the good stuff right there. And he was coming to Jasper, right, until the groin injury? You had him locked up? You know what? We've had a lot of injuries. We had a wrist surgery.

We had a knee issue. It's tough out there right now. Too bad. Too bad. We are heading this weekend out to Jasper. It is the Jasper Pond Hockey Tournament. There's going to be a bunch of Lugans. Nation Network Lugans out there.

We are going to be doing a, what sounds, like, now we have creative control of this show. We do not need to do a joint afterburner with those dummies if we don't want to. But the notion has been after the Oilers and Flames play on Saturday, we'll just all get together and huddle around some microphones and do a show together, which sounds about as fun as, I don't know, getting kicked in the balls. But, um, my suggestion to you guys is, yeah, let's, let's, let's do the After Burner show and drink too much. And at the end of the game, go, I can't be on the air like this.

You guys better, you guys handle this. Take this. Pinder was in as soon as he said, drink too much. Whatever else came after that. That was happening. It takes for that show. They can't handle my takes. I'm going to count of $23 million a dead cap for them next year on their show if they do that.

They're going to get it. We're going to talk about Connor Brown's bonus overage for half an hour if those assholes want me on their show. Oh, geez. So anyway, we are heading up there. We're going to be, you're going to see some stuff on social media. We'll be throwing some content your way. And all our trip, our journey to Jasper is fueled by booster juice.

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It's a lot of RB teams tonight. I'm not really keen on. I got something way better, way more exciting. It is for DoorDash, what's on the menu. With DoorDash, it shows up at your door. It's what you want from where you want whenever you want it. And for a limited time, you can get 25% off and zero delivery fees on your first order of $15. or more, download the DoorDash app, enter promo code Nation 25, Nation 25, to trigger that deal.

So what is on the menu for DoorDash? 530 Mountain Time. We've got an incredible clash of Titans. It's the Bosch Bowl, CB4 bragging rights, Toronto, Miami from Ogtown. Take our towns to South Beach? No, we're going to take them north of the 49th or south of the 49th. I don't know where it is, lotitude-wise, in Canada. That's on the menu tonight. It's Miami. It's Toronto. It's the Association. appreciation. Chris Bosch, just ear to ear smiles.

Chris Bosch. The Bosch ball. Yeah. I watched him the other night. He's, he's still got it. Still tall? Yeah, still tall. Still, uh, taking it to the rack. Still hooping and diming. Hooping and diming. He's a hooper and dimmer. That is what's on the menu for DoorDash. Dash that for the wind with DoorDash. I would think it's a lot of DoorDash with the cold temps and the snow and everything right now. I would have DoorDash.

I wouldn't risk it. driving to do it. I would. Why would you do it? Just let Doordash do it. Just let DoorDash do it. Can they drive during the snowstorm? Like you're driving.

The driving van? Oh, I don't know. I don't know what you got going on there in Buffalo. COVID happening and we were, they were emergency workers. Like what's the terminology? I get the wrong words.

But it was like, oh, your job is a first responders. No. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was like the term. Because we were that at the radio station. That's what I mean. That's what the,

DoorDash drivers would be. This is very necessary. What was that word they used? I don't know. Questions, comments, give us that word. People that were allowed to walk about during COVID. Essential workers. Essential workers.

Yes. There you go. DoorDash drivers, essential workers in Buffalo. Let's go. How's the Scholar? In the next 36 hours, three to four feet of new snow accumulating. Three to four feet? Read that again.

What to expect on the next 36 to 48 hours, three to four feet of new accumulation in areas already pummeled by snow. Pummeled. Good verbiage. Pummled. Wow. It's not good. Shoveler's going to be just flush with 20s by the time that Bill's game rolls around to kickoff.

What am I? I need a series or a trilogy or, you know, like a free part or a rig. You need a binge here. I need a binger, but something. that from 10 to me will enjoy. Oh, I have a good one for you and the shoveler, but not the kids. Have you done the White Lotus? There's two seasons?

Oh, that's a good one. Is that the hotel? Yeah, that's good stuff. Yes, I watched that when I was sick. But I don't think that's good. So you need one with the kids involved? It's got to be family friendly. Have you done the Ted Lassel?

Oh, Ted Lassel. Oh, Ted Lass is great. No. That's a good one. It's good family, family stuff. Heartwarming, sending the right message, what you're all about. Coaches on acid, all kinds of great stuff. Rambo.

Rambo, a little more violent. Yeah. Judging how your hockey team plays, that might be a perfect good anymore. This is another question. Is Rambo any good anymore? I, I'm willing to bet it's not as great as we thought it was. Because it was pretty big. Yeah.

I went back and I showed my kid Terminator. And Terminator 2. Dude, this. It doesn't get any better. Layer 2, please. Judgment Day. Yeah. That was the big one.

Terminator 1 was like, hmm. It's not, okay, it's kind of draggy at parts. It's no good. And then even Terminator 2, because at the time,

those special effects were unbelievable. Oh, yeah. It's a coughing into the metal. It's like, um, that's going to be the cop again right oh you're ruining it kid shut up this is like this is one of the best movies ever just shut your face i'll let me guess he's just gonna go right through the bars because he can melt through oh because he's you know this shit so if he can do that why can't he

all right yeah shush it's a lot of those things i sat down i showed them a groundhog day this is one of the funniest movies ever there was no laugh there was no laugh what about what about a good comedy like a john candy is planes trains too old you gotta go to adam sandlers that's gonna work go do uh what's the one where goes back to school billy madison that's a hit for a 10 year old though yeah i feel like yeah because some of those because i i feel like Tommy boy is still a good one so remember we talked at the when we were on the radio with our buddy peter klein not from a cloud law we're like you've got to watch kingpin king pin is one of the funniest movies i've ever seen so good and he watches like i don't know

I gave it like a six out of ten. I was like, I was going to bite him on the nose. I was like, what are you talking about? That hair. He's unbelievable. Ernie McCracken? Come on. Now, is the moms charity?

Does dumb and dumber still hold up if you were to pull it out and run it today? I think we've walked it if they weren't blowing away. Jeez. The great outdoors they liked. There's some funny part, man, when the, with the bear. Was it the bat gets into the cabin? Matt. Yeah.

Yeah. God, I love John Candy. So good. A beautiful man. Love that guy. Let's do Uncle Buck. I wondered about Uncle Buck. Yeah.

Yeah, Uncle Buck. Ace Ventura. Did that one already. Again. Tell me they like that, please. They were okay with it. Wayne's World, you got no chance. It's too much pop culture references from the 90s.

And you know what I think it is now? It's almost like kids can't do moves. because of TikTok and that. Yes. I can't. How long is this? An hour and 40 minutes. What?

Is there a 30 second version? Yeah. Can I just watch the trailer? Yeah. Everything's Coles notes. Yeah. God. Kids today.

Kids today. You know what's the hell with them. I'm going to shut all the screens off. That's what you do, right? Oh, now he's mad. So what do you do and there's a, yeah, what do you do there in Buffalo? Because there's a travel band.

So what do you do today? Well, there's no one on the road. So if you go rip, Broan and weeping nuts on the road and it's a lot of fun. Whippin nuts? Small town. Yeah, a snowmobile. He's probably king of the county right now.

Yeah. It would be, right? There'd be guys whipping around on snow machines. Curtis Brown and I owned snow machines when I played here and they had a massive snowstorm. The problem was we couldn't get to the damn things. In storage somewhere? Mm-hmm. That's not very smart.

Not ideal, yeah. Couldn't ride the snow machine. Why is it too much snow? Too much snow. Too much snow. I'm going to make ribs and a brisket, though. I'm going to. Oh, yeah, you are?

So you lied to go to the grocery store? Is that full no, no, no, no, no, no. I went yesterday. Like, people here get it. They're ready. They're like, all right. And it's just a perfect place to you. They're all doomsdayers just to a very, very small degree, right?

Yeah, I don't know that. They just realized they've been through this before. Yeah. And again, this isn't as much last Christmas. Yeah, it's only three or four feet, not 10. already pummeled? Yeah. In areas that have already been pummeled by snow.

Good choice. Good choice. Buffalo. Always. He said that a lot in Arizona. Did you pick up on that, Dean? Yeah, it was a lot. Yeah.

Buffalo, huh? You know why I don't live in Arizona right now? Because Chuck Kobus is an idiot. Okay. Oh. Is there anything to. He's a real estate agent there. Realtor Chuck.

Chuck in 2019 told me, I think prices are a little high right now. I'd waded out. Nope. You, yeah. I'd have only doubled my money by now. Thanks, Chuck.

How's the housing market in Calgary? Because I feel like you could sell, you may as well just sell this house that you have here. You want it? I don't know that anyone in the show is in the snack bracket to buy that home. It backs onto a lake. Yeah, we would need to work out some sort of a payment schedule. And I'm dying soon.

Are you? Did you get that news? Yeah, yeah. See, I believed you the first time you told me that. That was like 10 years ago, you bastard. I'm not falling to that one again. I'm dying soon. It was, you know, I think the doctor was like, I have some bad news to share with you.

Is that the bad? That's the bad news? Dude, that sounds great. Bye. Thanks. Your blood type is ragu. You have two weeks to live. Leafs in town tomorrow.

Stupid leaves. The return of Brad Trilliving. There may many a word. Will he be booed? Somebody asked, will there be a montage? Will there be some sort of a stand-up and clapety-clap thing? For sure. I don't know if it's up for sure.

There could be. I would think there might be one. I can't think of any comparables. Like if Pittsburgh rolls through Toronto, are they giving Dubus the thing? I don't know. Listen, stay classy, Calgary.

That's right. We do it differently here. Yeah. In fairness, yeah, Toronto. It'd be pretty funny. They like,

they take the cameras. They pan up to the press box and it's like, oh, there's Brad and he gives the wave. And then you're like, oh, there's the flame scratches. There's Hubert.

Oh, dear. Oh, or they just, they scan the banners and then just stop at an empty spot. Oh, is that where that? Okay. Yeah.

Dubas didn't get it. They're in the comments, if that's correct. And you know what? That's probably the right move because they would have booed the shit out of them. Toronto would have booed Dubas for sure. And they, and I get it. Like they didn't do the lot of the playoffs,

but that was how many years a row over 100 point seasons? Like five? Yeah. So it wasn't like a bad job. They just never finished the job. Good teams. No playoff success. A trophy to win, eh?

It is, yeah. Off trophy. Again, only one team wins it. No, what about this year, though? Well, check with Gary. No, we got that memo. Check your email. Yeah.

Well, they've got the best on best this year. Don't they hand it out for that? It's next year, next winner. It's the best on best this year? Next year. Yeah. I'm actually very excited about that. What are you talking to?

Me? He's looking for the email, about how many cups are going to have away this year? Yeah, I'm looking here. Yeah. I'm looking here. Let us know when you find it, Dean. That would be helpful.

Yeah. So given two or three, I think they should add at the deadline. Sure. Did you miss Huberto last night? Who? Hubertel. Did he play? That'll do it.

Talk to tomorrow, folks. Tomorrow is Thursday, game day, helmets. See you, buddies. Quick note, Walker Dewer on waivers. Oh, is it, Coronado time, friends. Is it Peltier time? That's wonderful Peltier Coronado, but.

Well, that's what I was looking for. And I didn't have it from a reliable. We did a lot of. Last year. Said it last night. Talked about it last night. And he makes almost nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if someone's like,

hey, you make 8, 10, like come play for Anaheim for a year. Like something like I wouldn't be surprised. But at this point, he's redundant. They've got Klapkas and Pedersons and Durer. can't be better than Greer or Dubay or Rizitschka, here we are. I'll tell you what I'm glad I didn't buy that new jersey. I said last night we were buying jerseys. We were yelling his name, the whole thing.

And then he got married and he can't play. Caution or tail. It is a bit of a, it sucks. It's on four. Now, again, what was the, right? What was the highest ceiling? Probably about where he was, was being an impactful bottom six guy. It's made and hit.

but he wasn't close to even that. I wonder if we don't see Huberto again, if we don't see a dube back to the fourth line, Coronado airlifted into the top nine. You don't want that guy playing fourth line minutes. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

Right. Right. Right. Right. You know what? That reference we just made. That speaks to what used to be funny. Remember that show?

What was it called? Home improvement. That was a home improvement. Right? Like people, dying laughing to watch. Like Pam Anderson had the two belts on. You're like, I see how they got their ratings.

Yeah. Tad tops. Pam was hot. Binford. Binford tools. She was hot. And loved, love boating.

A neighbor was a bit of an ass hat. I didn't like the neighbor. That guy doesn't know it all that neighbor. Mm-hmm. Quit looking over the fence into my yard, you creep. Get out of here. What are you doing all the time? Trying to look at my wife. Like, what are you doing? Bugger off. It's like a little bit next door to Rob Ray. That's right. Although it looked like it was maybe the other way around when somebody's taking video of Rob

Ray top of us. Well, it's, you get to view that. That's a special sighting right there. That's like you found an extinct species. It's quite the upper. I wish it was extinct. Hey, uh, Jack. Hello. Can I end the show now or you got other shit? You got to just jump in. I got nothing. That's it. At home, it's right.

Yeah, why did you even go in today? The roads are treacherous. We've talked about this. Good night, everyone. We'll see you tomorrow. Bye, Walker. We loved you.