Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Will Things EVER Get Better For The Calgary Flames?? 😬 | BB Clips

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

VIDEO LINK: https://youtu.be/wHqlloPHWa4Boomer, Pinder & Rhett react to the Calgary Flames’ 2–1 loss to the Winnipeg Jets, dropping them to 1–6 on the season. The Flames simply can’t score... — and it’s starting to feel like rock bottom. Will things get better? Can this roster find a spark, or is this just who they are? The boys break down every angle of Calgary’s early-season crisis.#calgaryflames #calgaryflameshockey #nhlhockeyislife #nhlfranchise #nhl #nhlhockey #stanleycup CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️FLAMESNATION MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Flames and home ice fall to the Winnipeg Jets by a score of 2 to 1. Did they go to OT? I thought they were going to. I did too. Son of I was excited for you. I thought it'd be 3-1 with an empty netter. Those guys love me down. Five minutes left.
Starting point is 00:00:24 I guess we're going to overtime for sure. But damn, a little two-on-one. Kyle Conner to Mark Schifley back of the net, made a 2-1, and they tucked that thing in. I said yesterday, and I'm sticking to my guns, Dustin Wolf is the least of this team's problems and after having some games that were probably in the just okay category, I thought he was again their best player like he was and their only
Starting point is 00:00:47 win of the season in Edmonton. I knew they'd play harder. Yes. And I knew they'd work harder and put out a good effort. So I watched the Jay's game. Yes. We knew how that was going to go. Yeah. I can only watch so many champagne-soaked interviews before I jumped over to a
Starting point is 00:01:03 one-one tie midway through the... I was amazed at how fast they put up the stands in the field. I thought that was... That's good. That was real high-end stuff. A lot of crying. It's good stuff. Yeah, it was real. But I did listen to you on your after burner.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Oh, yes. Podcasts. Yeah. So I feel like I'm well informed. You're up to date on what that took place. A lot of Js in that post game show. Oh, Cammy, couldn't wait to talk about the Js. She had the highlights all ready to roll.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Okay, Jack, do you have the home run? Yeah. Well, there was only one goal that the flame scored. Well, that's kind of the one. the one point that I made and I'll maybe throw it up there to the group here today. Feels like it's a tall order for your goalie when you score one. Yeah. In order to win, he can't really let any in.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Hey, if you want to win in regulation at least, you know. Is this team challenged to score goals? Yes. No. Were they last year? It's early. Yes. Did we expect them to be challenged to score goals?
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yes. Does your goalie have to be pretty much the best player for you to beat a good team? if they're on yes it's just early i played against hellabuck he's a good goal he's a good goal he makes a good saves they're late he's also huge i don't know how many are good saves versus just like damn there's no room for the puck to go in and it also just seemed like a constant fire drill around wolf's net it's like well now i've lost my steak i'm still making kick saves and it's like a it's a fucking pinball machine over here guys could we clear a goddamn puck maybe once in a while um I got a text from one Julian McKenzie,
Starting point is 00:02:42 you may recall. Oh, yeah. The two, too legit to kick. He dropped the two kickers in our first. Yeah, back to back. Never have enough kickers.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Can't have enough. And he, his thing was, when did the flames get this bad? I feel like I've thrown him under the bus here, but he's like, Jesus,
Starting point is 00:02:59 I'm going to, you can get me up the speed. And it's, I think they've always been this bad. Yeah. It's just right now, the, It's never going to go in at an incredible rate, Harry.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Right. But at this point, it's not going their way. It is now six games in a row that they've lost. Now, over the course of a season, when you look at a six game losing streak, a lot of teams will say that was the low point of our season. You're damn right. It was. And right now, the flames will say, no, that's pretty much our season,
Starting point is 00:03:31 because they've played seven games. So since they had the off-the-skate, high-stick shouldn't have counted, Stu Skinner Gift, they've gone one goal to, two goal, two goal, one goal, one goal. Don't get smarty. Well, I'm just saying, like they have not hit three goals since opening night. When to be fair, they probably should have had zero. I feel like last year we had this conversation and they were still winning.
Starting point is 00:03:56 But they scored a bunch at the early part of the season. No, but there was, I remember Pinder going, we haven't got to over three in a month. Oh, sure. Four of 82, they were three or less. But three seems like a tall task now. Last year, three was like, okay, we can get three, but the fourth is impossible. This year, three only happened when... Trapp it up.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Trapping doesn't lead to goals is the problem. You can trap all you want. You don't get to three. You have to sometimes, listen, I am not a bean salad guy. But when bean salad is part of your defense that you're relying on, when Jake Bean Salad is part of your trap defense. Top four, Jake Bean Salad. That makes things difficult.
Starting point is 00:04:40 It's, yeah. That was a great defensive effort. Yeah, they held the Jets to two goals. That's the team that won the West. You want to win that game. Except you, you didn't. Didn't. Last year we came in and suspected that the defense and the goaltending was going to be an issue.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Oh, they'll get enough goals. And then it was, oh, boy, they can score a lot of goals. And then it started to regress. And right, you could see how that came to be. Now you're trying to squint and. see, okay, it's the, they're on track to be one of the worst offensive teams potentially ever at a one to two goal a night pace. Steen.
Starting point is 00:05:20 How, but the hard part is now to, so how does it, how does this improve? Because it won't be this bad all year. There's going to be stretches where they score and they win and you just know that's going to happen. But it doesn't feel like they're, I don't, it was 33 shots. I don't think Hellibuck at the end of the night was like, hey, I don't know who we're playing next, but I need that night off. because I got shelled tonight. No, but he was good.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Yeah. I agree, though. He wasn't like, yeah, they don't create enough. They don't finish enough. They don't create enough. And it's probably a function of having to be so good defensively that you're trading off the chance for an odd man rush to trap it up. And I'm oversimplifying.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And again, like who on this team would you write down in Penn and say, that guy's getting us 30? Nobody. Can you show me the lineup? Like in pencil, you could say maybe Cadre does it again. Maybe Coronado I don't want to rely on Codry at 35 or 36.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And so that's why it's not in Penn. They don't have a guy you can put down for 30. Do you think they're doing any hand ringing down at the? I said it to, well, I kind of brought up with you yesterday and I said it to Camry last night. So here's another day. You've lost six in a row.
Starting point is 00:06:32 What's Huska? What are you? Are we playing music during practice and having cake? Remember who was that? Are we lining up for a late? Jeff Ward playing Abbott practice, lighten the mood. Are we getting paddled before, like, I don't know what you do. Dullies thrown a stick into the 10th row.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah. Crumple, crumble. Crumbles in. Crumble, crumble. It's October 21st. It's real early. You're having to spin all of your, your coaching ploys and techniques. Every night there's a lineup tweak.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Always a new pair here and a different wing combination. He's trying to shake some offense out, but it's just like going to the chef and giving them shitty ingredients. You can't make filet mignon, not a crap. I think you should take the coaching out of the coaches hands and go into the room and say, you guys write the goddamn lineup. Yeah, right up, figure out what you want to do. Pull names from a hat
Starting point is 00:07:21 or play tag or put the sticks in the middle. I don't care how you could, whatever. Whatever. We don't have to have a, well, you don't have a one, two, and one, two, three, four line, right? You have a second line at best. Yes. Do you think of Lomberg's on the top line? The
Starting point is 00:07:41 or whatever you're considering the top line is that it's significantly handicapped? No, no. I say you get to the rink, husk, get to the rink, sticks at center, blindfold, one, two, three. That's one line, two, three, one, two, three, that's four lines, that's eight fingers, but four lines, and you have a little scrimmage and buy some pizza. Sammies, love Sammy. Get the F out of there. And Lee, you're sent it tonight.
Starting point is 00:08:18 No, no, no, those were just the forwards. I didn't do the Farrows. Yeah, those are just the forwards. Cammy was asking last night, what do you do now with Sharon Govich? You lost. Is there a lesson that's been sent or a message that's been sent? And, you know, just to repeat myself, he's one of the few guys that you feel like might be able to score for you
Starting point is 00:08:39 and you desperately need to score. You desperately need to score. Play him on D. So I think you have to. It's like, okay. Play him on D with Weaker. You're back in. You got to get.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Play him on D with weaker. I don't know what's worse. The other wrinkle because Miro's on waivers is that. Which Miro? Top four, cheapest top four defenseman, Mero? A 7, 8 to Miro. Oh, on waivers.
Starting point is 00:09:02 The. I wasn't sure to get last. years first 30 year mirror October 21st they gave it a try it got turnstallie it does leave the team in plus minus still wait they didn't put him on waivers a month ago and they could have kept solovia in colorado
Starting point is 00:09:17 uh... Pospisle's going to rejoin this as set management what's possible going to do well you got to find a spot for him now too that's the problem it's like maybe you're ready to put your go with back in for somebody okay it's a problem
Starting point is 00:09:32 how big a problem are we talking like If Husk is not losing sleep over this problem, he's got to call me. I'm going to walk him off the ledge here. You don't have to walk the plank. Don't lose any sleep over this. Put someone in the lineup. It doesn't make a difference.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah, I agree. It's just the problem is they've collected a ton of bottom six wangers. Yeah. And so now it's just like which guy is going to be overslaughted on the second line. This is one of that one. I would love it. I would, and I would do it. And then I'd get fired because owners are.
Starting point is 00:10:05 are too serious. I would actually go in there with the bingo machine with everyone's number and the ball in there and have it pop. All right. You're in and you're out. Sorry. Under the B-E-10, that's Johnny.
Starting point is 00:10:17 The guys would laugh about it. Holy shit. Is this happy? Yes, this is happening because I don't know what to do. You guys are terrible. G-47, that's Zeri. Okay? And B-11, Backland, Zeri.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You may as well have fun with it because it's stressing out is not. Oh, God, where do I put Paul? Sherigovic. Oh, popcorn again? I don't know. No. I'm not losing any sleep. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:10:45 I've sent a Jack the lines from last night, so. Short of a bingo machine. Because do we have the bingo machine? I've always wanted to get one. The kino machine. I've always wanted to get. I got the hand cranker one. When we had COVID, you had to play bingo online with your family.
Starting point is 00:11:01 So we could do like, okay, so number. here number two is a kick in the ass or whatever and just kind of okay whatever you want to do with that bank of machine is i20 blake coleman have a lot of fun with that yeah again i think this was said before the show they have a lot of wingers and unless the nchl is there's is are there 30 teams looking for middle to bottom six wingers so that's i like this uh lineup card though yeah fits on the screen who did that Jack. I didn't make that, no. That's great.
Starting point is 00:11:38 It kind of has a retro feel to it. It kind of does. And you can see everyone. It's good. So Kirkland at the center, he came in as Sharon Govich went out. And then if pospical is soon to be back, assuming you want Sharon Govich and pospical in the lineup,
Starting point is 00:11:54 again, it's not hard, but there are two men who will be coming out. You can send Hansik down and get him some minutes in the A. That's fine. He doesn't need waivers. That's not going to be a problem. I'm anti that move. I'm the other way.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Farabee has been snake bit. I'd leave. Again, I'm using the bingo machine, so I don't know who's going in and out. But none of you are staying in because you deserve it. But you told Husk to give you a call. Yeah. So let's just. Hey, Redd, it's Husk.
Starting point is 00:12:23 So you were saying, what do I do here? Okay, so what are my problem? What am I, what are my dealing? You want to get, you're probably going to want to get Sharon Govich back in and pospic. All right. Sharon Govich. And Pospical.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Kirkland's out. Who's playing the middle? Zary, because he wants to be a centerman. So Zeri goes 4C. Yeah. And the other two can play with Frost. Scratch Hansa. Hansa comes out or Klopka.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Yeah. Was there any passengers last thing? That felt like a good team effort. Was there anyone that was like, oh, this guy, like have a seat? That's the problem you have when you're trying to bring someone in from the rafters. if someone has to come out. Again, not Huska's biggest problem. His biggest problem is his team is not skilled enough to score much in this league.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Well, if 11 didn't have the C on his jersey in the extension, I'd consider sitting his ass too. You need centers. That's the thing. Well, what are you talking about? Those are centers. How are they helping? Put Zari at center and Hansiket's center.
Starting point is 00:13:25 What's the difference going to be? We're going to score less goals? You're going to lose more draws for sure. And? And you're going to not have the puck as much. Oh, God forbid. Yeah, well, I mean, look, I'm not saying these guys playing well. I'm just saying the one area they're flooded is wing,
Starting point is 00:13:40 and the one area they're of a dearth of is centers. So that's why Justin Kirkland's in the NHL. How many teams are Justin Kirkland play center in the NHL? A lack of. Yeah, avoid. Yeah, so get some of these dumb ass, sorry, they're not dumb ass. Get some of these guys to be able to play center. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:56 We have too many winners, you just said. I agree. So my point would be, if you're going to send Hosick to the A, play the ass out of them at center ice. Now, you might have something for the second half of the year. You said, just more than Hansig,
Starting point is 00:14:09 Ryan had said, send him down. You're like, you said no. I'm to the point. Well, we're still faking that we're going to be good this year. If we're trying to put the best,
Starting point is 00:14:17 put the kids in the damn lineup. That's what I'm getting. If you don't want to, and if you want to pretend that you're going to put a charge on and win 10 games in a row, okay, well, that's your prerogative.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Go ahead. But you're only, you're not going to hurt. your playoff chances by playing Hansik and who's the kid that's already down there, Gridden. Yeah. Or Karen's, yeah, like, you could definitely go way younger and it would not hurt your chances to get him in Kenna.
Starting point is 00:14:43 I'll tell you that. Or making the playoffs, because you're not. You're not. It's not the odds. Do we have the odds guy? I just, I got it in the Pender Report. We talked about on Bet 365 that the team total for the season was around 83 and half, 84, whatever, different books, different spots.
Starting point is 00:15:01 they now, they up to these every night, 77 and a half. Where do you think that ranks amongst the 32 NHL teams? 29th. It is tied for third from the bottom, which would be 29 slash 30th. Them in Pittsburgh, it's 77.5. The only teams projected to get fewer points by the unemotional, unbiased sports book, Chicago and San Jose. Like, believe it or not, you are right in the thick of Mission McKenna right now.
Starting point is 00:15:29 don't miss that. Don't think you're something you're not. You are in the McKenna sweepstakes. Operate as such. So to Rett's point, I understand coaches are paid to win. You just got a nice extension. Everyone in the organization has to understand that being bad for a short amount of time will make you much better in the long term.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Picking 10th this year does not turn the ship around in time for a new building. That kid's not in the NHL in two years. picking first, second or third, that kid might get a season in the saddle down before he goes to the new building. I don't, I don't disagree with it. But there is, you still have to get to the bit of the lottery balls.
Starting point is 00:16:11 But it's game seven. I know. Yeah, but you've pissed them all away. So what? It's not our fault. So we're supposed to lie and say, oh,
Starting point is 00:16:20 you guys are going to turn the corner. It's just, oh, you guys are right on the cusp. And to flip that around, we talk about the 96 points they had. Tell me about their 501 start and those 11 points. they got. Like, if they don't have those 11, let's say they got six.
Starting point is 00:16:34 We're talking about a team that's not even close to be in the tie break. I guess just understand. I'm not saying they're better than they are. I'm just saying as the coach's job is to try and win. Correct. You've played seven. So what do you do? Coaches.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Sorry, cut you off. Do you want to keep going? No, you've got a locker room full of guys who are like, I don't give a fuck about a rebuild. Yeah. You're right. You're right. I want to beat the Habs tomorrow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I don't know how excited they are to be that. Make it fun. And I'm not just, yes, it's a ridiculous and they'd never do it because it's professional sports. But you know what they should do? They should bring the bingo thing into the room and use it. Make it fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Because there's nothing that's going to rally these guys as far as a carrot or give them a carrot. Because the stick ain't working. It's not going to work. They aren't talented enough for a stick to work. It's just keep beating the dead horse. Like, come on hard. You better make it enjoyable for these guys to be at the rink. I think that's part of it.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Like a year ago, everything went great and they were 96, the whole thing. They were rallying because it was fun. Watching some of the, watching Blake Coleman talk after a game. Oh, it is dead weight. Oh, they know. Yes. They know. The deeper this trough gets, the sooner, I think, from owner,
Starting point is 00:17:57 through to the HL, they understand what the mission is this season. I understand if they're not there yet. I get it. But you've scored more than two goals once and you should not have. It was a gift. And I said this before and I think it's probably
Starting point is 00:18:13 something to just be, Craig Conroy, the GM says some things and does some things. Pay attention to what he's doing more than what he's saying. Because he's going to say the right things. If we can add some scoring help, if we can get some player, he's going to say these things.
Starting point is 00:18:30 That's doing your job. If we could get some defense, we'd really like to help this team, we've got to make a push, we want to make the playoffs, we think we're a playoff. He is going to tell you these things. But he did not add a big name on July 1st. He, like, this, he knows what he's got here. Yeah, he does. He knows what he's got.
Starting point is 00:18:46 The question I have is does the owner? And but, and that that it's headed towards, we don't hear, we don't ever hear. But it's headed towards being so vividly clear, unmistakable what they are. This franchise is. has never rebuilt by choice. They've only been forced into it because the team is so bad,
Starting point is 00:19:03 and it appears that this season could go that way too, very likely. They took two, too many men on the ice penalties in the second period last night in a six, seven minute span. Well, don't play with this one call. They went 0 for five on the power play. They scored one goal. Yeah, they get games there if you've got some more talent. But it's just, they got the habs.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Then the Jets, Rangers. Then the Rangers. We're good on the road. The trough could get deep. Good. So good. Then they can be forced into some good decisions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:46 For the organization. Like long term, that's the best thing to happen. And by organization, I mean management and up. Make it crystal clear. We've got no options here, fellas. How's it going to be going into Ontario once you're done with the Rangers? How would you like to be in the bingo for, McKenna and trade Anderson for another first and be like, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And have the chat with Coleman and have the chat with Cadry and move Hanley at the deadline. And of like, and and and and end. Yeah. And this team of the spring might be fun. I don't know that they'll be structured and good, but like you bring up a Brestevich, you have a gridon, Andrew Bashar, maybe you're ready to play. Like, maybe Hansick's in the middle. Like you can start to see this roster turning over because for all the talk of a rebuild, like they
Starting point is 00:20:35 really didn't sell a single piece until it was that one year where it was Lindholm, Tanev, Hanofin, Sadorov. Like, to your point, they stood pat. They didn't sell last year. Status quo is the same roster's last year minus the backup goalie. Yeah. And they did what they usually do, which is get to the deadline where if you were going to sell anything, you probably aren't going to because you think you're a playoff.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Sorry, Jack, can you throw that back up? God, Jack, just gets so fancy pants. Why? Let's get out of here. Let's go for your. So, yeah, it's the Habs who are one of the, they are rolling right now. They're offensively gifted. They are, they're having fun. They're having fun.
Starting point is 00:21:20 The Jets will play Thursday and then Friday. So the flames will go in there catching them on a back to back, I guess. So you might not get Hala Buck? How you would frame that. I don't know what the Rangers are. it seems like there there's some turmoil there as well as they win and lose and the
Starting point is 00:21:39 They're taking a lot of heat for being three, four and one. Yeah, they're taking it's because all their losses are at home. That's why. And then it's a road trip into Toronto and yeah. It doesn't matter. I know. Schedule is a schedule and there's good games coming up and some
Starting point is 00:21:58 but if you've had your first tap-ins when you're in the last place, good luck. They're running. If you've had, if you had your seven or eight game losing streak in your first nine or ten games. They might do it twice. Right? It's not.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I know it's disheartened. And it's going to make for one hell of a long season. But where are you expecting this to go? Like long seasons end with high draft picks, boys. I'm ready for one. It's like I said to the kids when they were trying out for their teams, Dean. I said, listen. You go out there, you give her you're all, you do your best.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Whatever happens, happens. There's no downside, Dean. You know why? Because if you get cut from that team, you get dad to coach you. So if they play bad, a Rets coming in? That's called a balance. That's a balancing act, Dino. Eby, Stevie.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And they worked their tails up to make those teams. Yeah, those kids really seem motivated after that. You owe them a dog. Yeah. I got called out on that the other day. You lied to me about the dog. Well, you did. I mean.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I said, prove it. That is circumstantial. Time doesn't stand still. There's still. No smoking gun. No one recorded it. Oh, well.
Starting point is 00:23:21 You know. Zane Perrette got hit again last night. Get out of the way, kid. Along the boards. Again, I don't. The Sisson's hit, going back to the game. Vegas played here caught him at the at the blue line did we think that was it is that a you kind of give it to the old chicken wing maybe a little bit but maybe that's what you do to kind
Starting point is 00:23:44 of he also he also corrects the leon what's he's doing he's just his right oh what's the noise he made they though though well he's looking at the puck down in our i'm not saying i just i think saying smart what he were just off mike that's all he was off killed he uh explained yeah i because i didn't think it was a egregious or 30 hit. And last night, Nito Nita Ryder comes in and finishes him along the boards. Again, I think maybe Zane was a little
Starting point is 00:24:12 unaware and left the game. Did come back. Two hits in three games? Yeah, yeah, it's a young man finding his way. I don't know if, is this, you have to learn how to take a hit because we learn that you're going to get hit. You better
Starting point is 00:24:30 learn who you're out again. Yeah, at all levels, we've talked about it. There doesn't seem to be as much physicality or big hitting anymore. That's my kid. And then and I would guess in junior where he's so many levels. No, I'm talking about the one in.
Starting point is 00:24:48 No, I, yeah, I know what you're talking. Oh, you're talking about. Back to, back to correct. My kid's great. Back to me, Rhett. Do you worry at all? Because all it would take, if it's Tom Wilson and not Nino Nieder writer, if it's somebody who's looking to make an impact and I'm going to, I'm going to finish this hard. worry about a lot of things, Dino, and this is not one of them. Honestly, the whole thing about this season with Preck is it's a guy that should be in the A
Starting point is 00:25:15 that's not allowed to go to the A. And so he's going to figure out what works and what doesn't in this league. And he's smart. We know that. I would expect him to figure out. Time and space are different in this league. You weren't going to get hit there in the O, you are in the NHL. If it happens every third game, I'll be worried. But he's figuring out what works and what doesn't here. Yeah. Perg Gustafson used to get crushed in Florida all the time. There's a 26-year-old, so it doesn't matter if you're young or old. It's got to get used to the league, do you know?
Starting point is 00:25:42 Figure it out. Figure it out. Better to not take those hits. Figured out, dude. I'm looking at the goals for us. This is very fair. What do you? There's seven.
Starting point is 00:25:52 What do you look at? How much time can you spend looking at all of the goals for? Well, the Rangers are second last in the league. There are even two goals a game. The flames are almost at one and a half. Horner. I still don't know what you're trying to find solace that things are going to come around. No, like honestly.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Some weirdo scientificy bullshit that'll tell us that. Well, they're not getting any puck luck. That's obvious. And the goals against and the Frank of and beans is. Yeah, the expected bean salad per 60s a little high. No, they're going to. More of these pucks are going to go in. But they might get to two and a half a game.
Starting point is 00:26:37 But they're not, like, they're not going to be a top 35 in the league scoring team. They don't have the horses. They didn't last year. They finished 29 plus year out of 32 teams. Bean salad's going to stick around for a little bit. Whatever things aren't going. What is a photo? I'll tell you what, last night, there was a lot of fucking bean salad going on out there.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I was watching champagne and filet mignon and I switched over to the flames game and it was bean salad. That was my night. Weirdo scientificy bullshit. don't you have any of that talking about. Yeah, like, Cadre's not going to be stuck at zero goals of the zero shooting percentage. We know that.
Starting point is 00:27:17 He's going to get his 20. He's shooting a lot yesterday. That's what you got to do. Three minutes I saw. Zane Perak, you're saying? No, Godre. But honestly, we've sat here for three years talking about, you probably need to look in the mirror
Starting point is 00:27:34 and be honest about what you are. This is your chance. Somebody on the, I guess it was last night on the, uh, on the post game was kind of talking about the, they've got young players, but there's no game breakers. And you saw that even like with the Jets last night, it's a tie game, five minutes left. We got a chance.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Connor Shifleaf, bang. Game breakers. Yeah. High end talent guys that can change the game with just like that. Yeah. And it, yeah, it does not feel like the flames are close to having that. maybe it's a goal post, maybe you get a shot on net.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Yeah, and some post will start going in, but you're still going to be incredibly hindered offensive. I don't even want to say it. I'm getting cheeky. But McKenna is the greatest thing that could ever happen. And I understand you need to win a lottery and I understand the Chicago and Pittsburgh
Starting point is 00:28:32 and Santa's there going to be bad. McKenna, maybe it's the next best girl. Yeah. Jack Eichols are pretty good point. You want a six foot five, right shot top pair D? Yeah, I do. let's go. But point being, like, if you can start the wheels turning a little sooner on this, it's going to help your odds. It's not guaranteeing anything. It doesn't make things simple,
Starting point is 00:28:54 but you basically want to have the safest bet you've got at getting a good player at the draft in June. So if there's a deal that's fair for Rasmus in December, do you need to wait three months? You don't. Yeah, that'll be Deletion is addition long term. As soon as you start pulling away these guys that are NHLers, that's going to hurt you in the point column. Because they're not going to win one out of every seven.
Starting point is 00:29:24 They'll be better than that. Nobody's this bad. The Sabres tanking for McDavid weren't this bad through. If you want to prorate seven games over the whole year. Well, what's 71 points? Is that what they have them at now? 37 and a half was the
Starting point is 00:29:42 bet three six five total and they've got how many points you get for a win you get two so 35 times a is 70 yeah are they going to get
Starting point is 00:29:52 35 wins and no jack made a noise that I know that came over that's a no the mic you're not
Starting point is 00:30:00 honestly now's not the time right they they're not storing they're looking well I mean this this could
Starting point is 00:30:08 and truly this could be the worst part of their season. They may not lose six in a row. How does it get worse than this? What are you talking about? I'm just, you mix in some, maybe you lose four of six.
Starting point is 00:30:18 If Jack has the schedule there, it's like Nashville, Chicago, like there's some teams that aren't division leaders coming up. If you have the effort you did last night and the goaltending you had last night, and it's not Collar, how about hell of a other?
Starting point is 00:30:28 Those could be wins. You're going to win some games. But don't go getting yourself in the mucky middle again. Get ahead of this. Like flyers, let's lose the next black bucks. That's four in a row. those are all winnable games to this team in the sense that
Starting point is 00:30:43 if you have the better goalie you outwork them you can win those you can outwork and have the better goal tender in the games before that and still lose because you just they're so much more talented than you the talent gap is much smaller with the preds flyers blue jackets of blackhawks plus we're going to be in nashville for that one they're going to be they're going to be so excited to have us they're going to be so excited he's so pumped it week's going to come and give red a hug he loves hugs wearing wearing our brassiers and cowboy hats.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Can't wait. Can't wait. Still in our Halloween costumes from the night before. The other thing that tomorrow could be, we know what the Habs experience is like at the dome at the best of times. Now the flames are on a skid and the, the Hab fans are excited. Like last night,
Starting point is 00:31:31 the Blue Jays got a bigger roar than the flames did at any part of the night. Not even close. This is the hard. It could be, what I'm saying is it could be bordering on kind of embarrassing morale busting for the flames. People as fans need to stop. And I, maybe stops not through one shot. Don't.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Do you want either one? Well, whatever. I'm just saying that we'll be smarmy and we can laugh about it, but don't go to the dome and throw a jersey on this. It's what they are. Yeah, yeah. It's what they are. Let's think about our eyes wide open and our brain actually working. well, they don't score.
Starting point is 00:32:14 They're not offensively gifted. They've got no high-end talent. They're getting older with a bunch of guys. They've got some real good second, third line guys. Anderson wants out of here. They're playing them with Bean or Hanley or whoever else. Like, recognize what the team is and don't, don't piss and moan about it.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I think there's such a huge portion of this fan base that is ready to sacrifice. I know, but that's the, That's where it gets shitty. As a player and as a fan, because we're seven games in. I'm kind of throwing in the towel however you want to describe it. Don't go to the dome and boo. Don't go to, yes, it's your right to cheer or criticize, but I'm just. This isn't the players.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I'm with you. Go ahead, boo. Don't throw shit in the ice. Don't be wearing. Yeah, this is not a team that should be. at a, you know, tremendous levels. This isn't that are Rangers, right? This isn't a group that won the President's trophy.
Starting point is 00:33:16 They aren't underperforming. Yeah. They are what they are. And this might be the best thing for you as a fan. I think most people get that. I really do. But I'm with you. Don't question here on paper bags.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Yeah, don't wear a pair. Early for paper bags. Early. No, there's nothing to be embarrassed. It's not embarrassing. It might be disappointing. It might be, you know, Darn.
Starting point is 00:33:41 This is a lost season. Except if you win the lottery. Yeah. When Game 82 is over. Except that in three years, if you're significantly better because you didn't have a good season, just don't be ignorant about it. And we will be because we have to talk.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Oh, we're assholes. You know what we need to do truly. And you brought it up early. And I think it's great. It's all coming together now. You're an idea. I do. We do need to invest in a bingo machine.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Yeah. Because with the draft lottery and all that, We're going to be doing so much bingo ball talk and everything. We should really get a bingo ball machine. Jack, run that up the flag ball. See if the bosses, we can pull off a $7 purchase. Is there some sort of a kinsman group that's got an old one trying to get rid of? That's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Some sort of keynote thing from Channel 8 20 years ago. There's some community hall. Charity group out there. Because, yeah, there's probably one that's sitting there. Are we going to get rid of this goddamn? But I actually meet it. I know that we have. we have fun and we take cheap shots.
Starting point is 00:34:41 You can call whatever, I don't care that they're bad. Would I prefer they're good? Yeah, but I prefer they're really good. And in this year, middling good. In this year, your actual big picture preference
Starting point is 00:34:53 is to be god-awful and get McKenna. I'm sorry, that's it. This is the best case scenario. Two years, great. The next two years. Get studs. Get studs. High end.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Keep picking, grabbing first rounders, keep getting rid of guys that are on the wrong side of 30. keep amassing young talents, keep having strong drafts, keep developing kids in the A, and finally hit a superstar at the top of the draft. Finally. Stop giving it.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Because you're a friend of, I get it now. Funny of that works. Double standard of sorts. Oh.

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