Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Will Things EVER Get Better For The Calgary Flames?? 😬 | BB Clips
Episode Date: October 21, 2025VIDEO LINK: https://youtu.be/wHqlloPHWa4Boomer, Pinder & Rhett react to the Calgary Flames’ 2–1 loss to the Winnipeg Jets, dropping them to 1–6 on the season. The Flames simply can’t score... — and it’s starting to feel like rock bottom. Will things get better? Can this roster find a spark, or is this just who they are? The boys break down every angle of Calgary’s early-season crisis.#calgaryflames #calgaryflameshockey #nhlhockeyislife #nhlfranchise #nhl #nhlhockey #stanleycup CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️FLAMESNATION MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Flames and home ice fall to the Winnipeg Jets by a score of 2 to 1.
Did they go to OT?
I thought they were going to.
I did too.
Son of I was excited for you.
I thought it'd be 3-1 with an empty netter.
Those guys love me down.
Five minutes left.
I guess we're going to overtime for sure.
But damn, a little two-on-one.
Kyle Conner to Mark Schifley back of the net, made a 2-1, and they tucked that thing in.
I said yesterday, and I'm sticking to my guns, Dustin Wolf is the least of
this team's problems and after having
some games that were probably in the just okay
category, I thought he was
again their best player like he was and their only
win of the season in Edmonton.
I knew they'd play harder.
Yes. And I knew they'd work harder
and put out a good effort. So I
watched the Jay's game. Yes. We knew
how that was going to go. Yeah.
I can only watch so many champagne-soaked
interviews before I jumped over to a
one-one tie midway through the... I was amazed
at how fast they put up the stands
in the field. I thought that was... That's good.
That was real high-end stuff.
A lot of crying.
It's good stuff.
Yeah, it was real.
But I did listen to you on your after burner.
Oh, yes.
Podcasts.
Yeah.
So I feel like I'm well informed.
You're up to date on what that took place.
A lot of Js in that post game show.
Oh, Cammy, couldn't wait to talk about the Js.
She had the highlights all ready to roll.
Okay, Jack, do you have the home run?
Yeah.
Well, there was only one goal that the flame scored.
Well, that's kind of the one.
the one point that I made and I'll maybe throw it up there to the group here today.
Feels like it's a tall order for your goalie when you score one.
Yeah.
In order to win, he can't really let any in.
Hey, if you want to win in regulation at least, you know.
Is this team challenged to score goals?
Yes.
No.
Were they last year?
It's early.
Yes.
Did we expect them to be challenged to score goals?
Yes.
Does your goalie have to be pretty much the best player for you to beat a good team?
if they're on yes it's just early i played against hellabuck he's a good goal he's a good goal he
makes a good saves they're late he's also huge i don't know how many are good saves versus just like damn
there's no room for the puck to go in and it also just seemed like a constant fire drill around
wolf's net it's like well now i've lost my steak i'm still making kick saves and it's like a
it's a fucking pinball machine over here guys could we clear a goddamn puck maybe once in a while um
I got a text from one Julian McKenzie,
you may recall.
Oh, yeah.
The two,
too legit to kick.
He dropped the two kickers in our first.
Yeah,
back to back.
Never have enough kickers.
Can't have enough.
And he,
his thing was,
when did the flames get this bad?
I feel like I've thrown him
under the bus here,
but he's like,
Jesus,
I'm going to,
you can get me up the speed.
And it's,
I think they've always been this bad.
Yeah.
It's just right now,
the,
It's never going to go in at an incredible rate, Harry.
Right.
But at this point, it's not going their way.
It is now six games in a row that they've lost.
Now, over the course of a season, when you look at a six game losing streak,
a lot of teams will say that was the low point of our season.
You're damn right.
It was.
And right now, the flames will say, no, that's pretty much our season,
because they've played seven games.
So since they had the off-the-skate, high-stick shouldn't have counted,
Stu Skinner Gift, they've gone one goal to,
two goal, two goal, one goal, one goal.
Don't get smarty.
Well, I'm just saying, like they have not hit three goals since opening night.
When to be fair, they probably should have had zero.
I feel like last year we had this conversation and they were still winning.
But they scored a bunch at the early part of the season.
No, but there was, I remember Pinder going, we haven't got to over three in a month.
Oh, sure.
Four of 82, they were three or less.
But three seems like a tall task now.
Last year, three was like, okay, we can get three, but the fourth is impossible.
This year, three only happened when...
Trapp it up.
Trapping doesn't lead to goals is the problem.
You can trap all you want.
You don't get to three.
You have to sometimes, listen, I am not a bean salad guy.
But when bean salad is part of your defense that you're relying on, when Jake Bean Salad is
part of your trap defense.
Top four, Jake Bean Salad.
That makes things difficult.
It's, yeah.
That was a great defensive effort.
Yeah, they held the Jets to two goals.
That's the team that won the West.
You want to win that game.
Except you, you didn't.
Didn't.
Last year we came in and suspected that the defense and the goaltending was going to be an issue.
Oh, they'll get enough goals.
And then it was, oh, boy, they can score a lot of goals.
And then it started to regress.
And right, you could see how that came to be.
Now you're trying to squint and.
see, okay, it's the, they're on track to be one of the worst offensive teams potentially ever
at a one to two goal a night pace.
Steen.
How, but the hard part is now to, so how does it, how does this improve?
Because it won't be this bad all year.
There's going to be stretches where they score and they win and you just know that's going to happen.
But it doesn't feel like they're, I don't, it was 33 shots.
I don't think Hellibuck at the end of the night was like, hey, I don't know who we're playing next,
but I need that night off.
because I got shelled tonight.
No, but he was good.
Yeah.
I agree, though.
He wasn't like, yeah, they don't create enough.
They don't finish enough.
They don't create enough.
And it's probably a function of having to be so good defensively that you're trading
off the chance for an odd man rush to trap it up.
And I'm oversimplifying.
And again, like who on this team would you write down in Penn and say,
that guy's getting us 30?
Nobody.
Can you show me the lineup?
Like in pencil, you could say maybe
Cadre does it again. Maybe Coronado
I don't want to rely on
Codry at 35 or 36.
And so that's why it's not in Penn.
They don't have a guy you can put down for 30.
Do you think they're doing any hand ringing
down at the?
I said it to, well, I kind of brought up with you yesterday
and I said it to Camry last night.
So here's another day.
You've lost six in a row.
What's Huska?
What are you?
Are we playing music during practice and having cake?
Remember who was that?
Are we lining up for a late?
Jeff Ward playing Abbott practice, lighten the mood.
Are we getting paddled before, like, I don't know what you do.
Dullies thrown a stick into the 10th row.
Yeah.
Crumple, crumble.
Crumbles in.
Crumble, crumble.
It's October 21st.
It's real early.
You're having to spin all of your, your coaching ploys and techniques.
Every night there's a lineup tweak.
Always a new pair here and a different wing combination.
He's trying to shake some offense out, but it's just like going to the chef and giving
them shitty ingredients. You can't make
filet mignon, not a crap. I think you should take
the coaching out of the coaches hands
and go into the room and say, you guys write the goddamn
lineup. Yeah, right up, figure out what
you want to do. Pull names from a hat
or play tag or
put the sticks in the middle. I don't care
how you could, whatever.
Whatever. We don't have to have a, well, you don't
have a one, two, and one, two, three, four
line, right? You have a second line at best.
Yes. Do you think
of Lomberg's on the top line? The
or whatever you're considering the top line is that it's significantly handicapped?
No, no.
I say you get to the rink, husk, get to the rink, sticks at center, blindfold, one, two, three.
That's one line, two, three, one, two, three, that's four lines, that's eight fingers, but four lines,
and you have a little scrimmage and buy some pizza.
Sammies, love Sammy.
Get the F out of there.
And Lee, you're sent it tonight.
No, no, no, those were just the forwards.
I didn't do the Farrows.
Yeah, those are just the forwards.
Cammy was asking last night, what do you do now with Sharon Govich?
You lost.
Is there a lesson that's been sent or a message that's been sent?
And, you know, just to repeat myself,
he's one of the few guys that you feel like might be able to score for you
and you desperately need to score.
You desperately need to score.
Play him on D.
So I think you have to.
It's like, okay.
Play him on D with Weaker.
You're back in.
You got to get.
Play him on D with weaker.
I don't know what's worse.
The other wrinkle because Miro's on waivers is that.
Which Miro?
Top four, cheapest top four defenseman,
Mero?
A 7, 8 to Miro.
Oh, on waivers.
The.
I wasn't sure to get last.
years first 30 year mirror
October 21st they gave it a
try it got turnstallie
it does leave the team in plus minus still wait
they didn't put him on waivers a month ago
and they could have kept solovia in colorado
uh... Pospisle's
going to rejoin this as set management
what's
possible going to do well you got to find a spot
for him now too that's the problem
it's like maybe you're ready to put
your go with back in for somebody
okay it's a problem
how big a problem are we talking like
If Husk is not losing sleep over this problem,
he's got to call me.
I'm going to walk him off the ledge here.
You don't have to walk the plank.
Don't lose any sleep over this.
Put someone in the lineup.
It doesn't make a difference.
Yeah, I agree.
It's just the problem is they've collected a ton of bottom six wangers.
Yeah.
And so now it's just like which guy is going to be overslaughted on the second line.
This is one of that one.
I would love it.
I would, and I would do it.
And then I'd get fired because owners are.
are too serious.
I would actually go in there with the bingo machine with everyone's number and the ball in there
and have it pop.
All right.
You're in and you're out.
Sorry.
Under the B-E-10,
that's Johnny.
The guys would laugh about it.
Holy shit.
Is this happy?
Yes, this is happening because I don't know what to do.
You guys are terrible.
G-47, that's Zeri.
Okay?
And B-11, Backland, Zeri.
You may as well have fun with it because it's stressing out is not.
Oh, God, where do I put Paul?
Sherigovic.
Oh, popcorn again?
I don't know.
No.
I'm not losing any sleep.
It doesn't matter.
I've sent a Jack the lines from last night, so.
Short of a bingo machine.
Because do we have the bingo machine?
I've always wanted to get one.
The kino machine.
I've always wanted to get.
I got the hand cranker one.
When we had COVID, you had to play bingo online with your family.
So we could do like, okay, so number.
here number two is a kick in the ass or whatever and just kind of okay whatever you want to do with that
bank of machine is i20 blake coleman have a lot of fun with that yeah again i think this was said before the show
they have a lot of wingers and unless the nchl is there's is are there 30 teams looking for
middle to bottom six wingers so that's i like this uh lineup card though yeah fits on the screen who did that
Jack.
I didn't make that, no.
That's great.
It kind of has a retro feel to it.
It kind of does.
And you can see everyone.
It's good.
So Kirkland at the center,
he came in as Sharon Govich went out.
And then if pospical is soon to be back,
assuming you want Sharon Govich and pospical in the lineup,
again, it's not hard,
but there are two men who will be coming out.
You can send Hansik down and get him some minutes in the A.
That's fine.
He doesn't need waivers.
That's not going to be a problem.
I'm anti that move.
I'm the other way.
Farabee has been snake bit.
I'd leave.
Again, I'm using the bingo machine, so I don't know who's going in and out.
But none of you are staying in because you deserve it.
But you told Husk to give you a call.
Yeah.
So let's just.
Hey, Redd, it's Husk.
So you were saying, what do I do here?
Okay, so what are my problem?
What am I, what are my dealing?
You want to get, you're probably going to want to get Sharon Govich back in and
pospic.
All right.
Sharon Govich.
And Pospical.
Kirkland's out.
Who's playing the middle?
Zary, because he wants to be a centerman.
So Zeri goes 4C.
Yeah.
And the other two can play with Frost.
Scratch Hansa.
Hansa comes out or Klopka.
Yeah.
Was there any passengers last thing?
That felt like a good team effort.
Was there anyone that was like, oh, this guy, like have a seat?
That's the problem you have when you're trying to bring someone in from the rafters.
if someone has to come out.
Again, not Huska's biggest problem.
His biggest problem is his team is not skilled enough to score much in this league.
Well, if 11 didn't have the C on his jersey in the extension,
I'd consider sitting his ass too.
You need centers.
That's the thing.
Well, what are you talking about?
Those are centers.
How are they helping?
Put Zari at center and Hansiket's center.
What's the difference going to be?
We're going to score less goals?
You're going to lose more draws for sure.
And?
And you're going to not have the puck as much.
Oh, God forbid.
Yeah, well, I mean, look, I'm not saying these guys playing well.
I'm just saying the one area they're flooded is wing,
and the one area they're of a dearth of is centers.
So that's why Justin Kirkland's in the NHL.
How many teams are Justin Kirkland play center in the NHL?
A lack of.
Yeah, avoid.
Yeah, so get some of these dumb ass, sorry, they're not dumb ass.
Get some of these guys to be able to play center.
Yeah.
We have too many winners, you just said.
I agree.
So my point would be, if you're going to send Hosick to the A,
play the ass out of them at center ice.
Now,
you might have something for the second half of the year.
You said,
just more than Hansig,
Ryan had said,
send him down.
You're like,
you said no.
I'm to the point.
Well,
we're still faking that we're going to be good this year.
If we're trying to put the best,
put the kids in the damn lineup.
That's what I'm getting.
If you don't want to,
and if you want to pretend that you're going to put a charge on
and win 10 games in a row,
okay,
well,
that's your prerogative.
Go ahead.
But you're only,
you're not going to hurt.
your playoff chances by playing Hansik and who's the kid that's already down there,
Gridden.
Yeah.
Or Karen's, yeah, like, you could definitely go way younger and it would not hurt your chances
to get him in Kenna.
I'll tell you that.
Or making the playoffs, because you're not.
You're not.
It's not the odds.
Do we have the odds guy?
I just, I got it in the Pender Report.
We talked about on Bet 365 that the team total for the season was around 83 and
half, 84, whatever, different books, different spots.
they now, they up to these every night, 77 and a half.
Where do you think that ranks amongst the 32 NHL teams?
29th.
It is tied for third from the bottom, which would be 29 slash 30th.
Them in Pittsburgh, it's 77.5.
The only teams projected to get fewer points by the unemotional, unbiased sports book,
Chicago and San Jose.
Like, believe it or not, you are right in the thick of Mission McKenna right now.
don't miss that.
Don't think you're something you're not.
You are in the McKenna sweepstakes.
Operate as such.
So to Rett's point, I understand coaches are paid to win.
You just got a nice extension.
Everyone in the organization has to understand that being bad for a short amount of time
will make you much better in the long term.
Picking 10th this year does not turn the ship around in time for a new building.
That kid's not in the NHL in two years.
picking first, second or third,
that kid might get a season in the saddle down before he goes to the new building.
I don't,
I don't disagree with it.
But there is,
you still have to get to the bit of the lottery balls.
But it's game seven.
I know.
Yeah,
but you've pissed them all away.
So what?
It's not our fault.
So we're supposed to lie and say,
oh,
you guys are going to turn the corner.
It's just,
oh, you guys are right on the cusp.
And to flip that around,
we talk about the 96 points they had.
Tell me about their 501 start and those 11 points.
they got.
Like, if they don't have those 11, let's say they got six.
We're talking about a team that's not even close to be in the tie break.
I guess just understand.
I'm not saying they're better than they are.
I'm just saying as the coach's job is to try and win.
Correct.
You've played seven.
So what do you do?
Coaches.
Sorry, cut you off.
Do you want to keep going?
No, you've got a locker room full of guys who are like, I don't give a fuck about a rebuild.
Yeah.
You're right.
You're right.
I want to beat the Habs tomorrow.
Okay.
I don't know how excited they are to be that.
Make it fun.
And I'm not just, yes, it's a ridiculous
and they'd never do it because it's professional sports.
But you know what they should do?
They should bring the bingo thing into the room and use it.
Make it fun.
Yeah.
Because there's nothing that's going to rally these guys as far as a carrot or give them a carrot.
Because the stick ain't working.
It's not going to work.
They aren't talented enough for a stick to work.
It's just keep beating the dead horse.
Like, come on hard.
You better make it enjoyable for these guys to be at the rink.
I think that's part of it.
Like a year ago, everything went great and they were 96, the whole thing.
They were rallying because it was fun.
Watching some of the, watching Blake Coleman talk after a game.
Oh, it is dead weight.
Oh, they know.
Yes.
They know.
The deeper this trough gets, the sooner, I think, from owner,
through to the
HL, they understand what the mission
is this season. I understand
if they're not there yet. I get it.
But you've scored more than two goals
once and you should not have.
It was a gift. And I said this
before and I think it's probably
something to just be, Craig Conroy,
the GM says some things
and does some things.
Pay attention to what he's doing
more than what he's saying. Because he's going to say
the right things. If we can
add some scoring help, if we can get some
player, he's going to say these things.
That's doing your job. If we could get some defense, we'd really
like to help this team, we've got to make a push, we want to
make the playoffs, we think we're a playoff. He is going to
tell you these things. But he did
not add a big name on July 1st.
He, like,
this, he knows what he's got here.
Yeah, he does. He knows what he's got.
The question I have is does the owner?
And but, and that that
it's headed towards, we don't hear, we don't ever hear.
But it's headed towards being so vividly
clear, unmistakable what they are.
This franchise is.
has never rebuilt by choice.
They've only been forced into it because the team is so bad,
and it appears that this season could go that way too, very likely.
They took two, too many men on the ice penalties in the second period last night
in a six, seven minute span.
Well, don't play with this one call.
They went 0 for five on the power play.
They scored one goal.
Yeah, they get games there if you've got some more talent.
But it's just, they got the habs.
Then the Jets, Rangers.
Then the Rangers.
We're good on the road.
The trough could get deep.
Good.
So good.
Then they can be forced into some good decisions.
Yeah.
For the organization.
Like long term, that's the best thing to happen.
And by organization, I mean management and up.
Make it crystal clear.
We've got no options here, fellas.
How's it going to be going into Ontario once you're done with the Rangers?
How would you like to be in the bingo for,
McKenna and trade Anderson for another first and be like, yeah, okay.
And have the chat with Coleman and have the chat with Cadry and move Hanley at the deadline.
And of like, and and and and end.
Yeah.
And this team of the spring might be fun.
I don't know that they'll be structured and good, but like you bring up a Brestevich,
you have a gridon, Andrew Bashar, maybe you're ready to play.
Like, maybe Hansick's in the middle.
Like you can start to see this roster turning over because for all the talk of a rebuild, like they
really didn't sell a single piece until it was that one year where it was Lindholm, Tanev,
Hanofin, Sadorov.
Like, to your point, they stood pat.
They didn't sell last year.
Status quo is the same roster's last year minus the backup goalie.
Yeah.
And they did what they usually do, which is get to the deadline where if you were going to sell
anything, you probably aren't going to because you think you're a playoff.
Sorry, Jack, can you throw that back up?
God, Jack, just gets so fancy pants.
Why? Let's get out of here.
Let's go for your.
So, yeah, it's the Habs who are one of the, they are rolling right now.
They're offensively gifted.
They are, they're having fun.
They're having fun.
The Jets will play Thursday and then Friday.
So the flames will go in there catching them on a back to back, I guess.
So you might not get Hala Buck?
How you would frame that.
I don't know what the Rangers are.
it seems like there
there's some turmoil there as well
as they win and lose and the
They're taking a lot of heat for being three, four and one.
Yeah, they're taking it's because all their losses are at home.
That's why.
And then it's a road trip into Toronto and
yeah.
It doesn't matter.
I know.
Schedule is a schedule and there's good games coming up and some
but if you've had your first tap-ins when you're in the last place,
good luck.
They're running.
If you've had,
if you had your seven or eight game losing streak in your first nine or ten games.
They might do it twice.
Right?
It's not.
I know it's disheartened.
And it's going to make for one hell of a long season.
But where are you expecting this to go?
Like long seasons end with high draft picks, boys.
I'm ready for one.
It's like I said to the kids when they were trying out for their teams, Dean.
I said, listen.
You go out there, you give her you're all, you do your best.
Whatever happens, happens.
There's no downside, Dean.
You know why?
Because if you get cut from that team, you get dad to coach you.
So if they play bad, a Rets coming in?
That's called a balance.
That's a balancing act, Dino.
Eby, Stevie.
And they worked their tails up to make those teams.
Yeah, those kids really seem motivated after that.
You owe them a dog.
Yeah.
I got called out on that the other day.
You lied to me about the dog.
Well, you did.
I mean.
I said,
prove it.
That is circumstantial.
Time doesn't stand still.
There's still.
No smoking gun.
No one recorded it.
Oh, well.
You know.
Zane Perrette got hit again last night.
Get out of the way, kid.
Along the boards.
Again, I don't.
The Sisson's hit, going back to the game.
Vegas played here caught him at the at the blue line did we think that was it is that a
you kind of give it to the old chicken wing maybe a little bit but maybe that's what you do to kind
of he also he also corrects the leon what's he's doing he's just his right oh what's the noise
he made they though though well he's looking at the puck down in our i'm not saying i just
i think saying smart what he were just off mike that's all he was off killed he uh explained
yeah i because i didn't think it was a egregious or
30 hit. And last night,
Nito Nita Ryder comes in and finishes
him along the boards. Again,
I think maybe Zane was a little
unaware and
left the game.
Did come back.
Two hits in three games? Yeah, yeah,
it's a young man finding his way.
I don't know if, is this,
you have to learn how to take a hit because
we learn that you're going to get hit. You better
learn who you're out again. Yeah, at all
levels, we've talked
about it. There doesn't seem to be as much
physicality or big hitting anymore.
That's my kid. And then
and I would guess in junior where he's
so many levels.
No, I'm talking about the one in.
No, I, yeah, I know what you're talking.
Oh, you're talking about. Back to, back to correct.
My kid's great. Back to me, Rhett.
Do you worry at all? Because all it would take, if it's Tom Wilson and not
Nino Nieder writer, if it's somebody who's looking to make an impact and I'm
going to, I'm going to finish this hard.
worry about a lot of things, Dino, and this is not one of them.
Honestly, the whole thing about this season with Preck is it's a guy that should be in the A
that's not allowed to go to the A. And so he's going to figure out what works and what doesn't
in this league. And he's smart. We know that. I would expect him to figure out. Time and space are
different in this league. You weren't going to get hit there in the O, you are in the NHL.
If it happens every third game, I'll be worried. But he's figuring out what works and what
doesn't here. Yeah.
Perg Gustafson used to get crushed in Florida all the time.
There's a 26-year-old, so it doesn't matter if you're young or old.
It's got to get used to the league, do you know?
Figure it out.
Figure it out.
Better to not take those hits.
Figured out, dude.
I'm looking at the goals for us.
This is very fair.
What do you?
There's seven.
What do you look at?
How much time can you spend looking at all of the goals for?
Well, the Rangers are second last in the league.
There are even two goals a game.
The flames are almost at one and a half.
Horner.
I still don't know what you're trying to find solace that things are going to come around.
No, like honestly.
Some weirdo scientificy bullshit that'll tell us that.
Well, they're not getting any puck luck.
That's obvious.
And the goals against and the Frank of and beans is.
Yeah, the expected bean salad per 60s a little high.
No, they're going to.
More of these pucks are going to go in.
But they might get to two and a half a game.
But they're not, like, they're not going to be a top 35 in the league scoring team.
They don't have the horses.
They didn't last year.
They finished 29 plus year out of 32 teams.
Bean salad's going to stick around for a little bit.
Whatever things aren't going.
What is a photo?
I'll tell you what, last night, there was a lot of fucking bean salad going on out there.
I was watching champagne and filet mignon and I switched over to the flames game and it was bean salad.
That was my night.
Weirdo scientificy bullshit.
don't you have any of that talking about.
Yeah, like,
Cadre's not going to be stuck at zero goals
of the zero shooting percentage.
We know that.
He's going to get his 20.
He's shooting a lot yesterday.
That's what you got to do.
Three minutes I saw.
Zane Perak, you're saying?
No, Godre.
But honestly, we've sat here for three years
talking about, you probably need to look in the mirror
and be honest about what you are.
This is your chance.
Somebody on the, I guess it was last night on the,
uh, on the post game was kind of talking about the,
they've got young players, but there's no game breakers.
And you saw that even like with the Jets last night,
it's a tie game, five minutes left.
We got a chance.
Connor Shifleaf, bang.
Game breakers.
Yeah.
High end talent guys that can change the game with just like that.
Yeah.
And it, yeah, it does not feel like the flames are close to having that.
maybe it's a goal post,
maybe you get a shot on net.
Yeah, and some post will start going in,
but you're still going to be incredibly
hindered offensive.
I don't even want to say it.
I'm getting cheeky.
But McKenna is the greatest thing that could ever happen.
And I understand you need to win a lottery
and I understand the Chicago and Pittsburgh
and Santa's there going to be bad.
McKenna, maybe it's the next best girl.
Yeah.
Jack Eichols are pretty good point.
You want a six foot five, right shot top pair D?
Yeah, I do.
let's go. But point being, like, if you can start the wheels turning a little sooner on this,
it's going to help your odds. It's not guaranteeing anything. It doesn't make things simple,
but you basically want to have the safest bet you've got at getting a good player at the draft in June.
So if there's a deal that's fair for Rasmus in December, do you need to wait three months?
You don't.
Yeah, that'll be
Deletion is addition long term.
As soon as you start pulling away these guys that are NHLers,
that's going to hurt you in the point column.
Because they're not going to win one out of every seven.
They'll be better than that.
Nobody's this bad.
The Sabres tanking for McDavid weren't this bad through.
If you want to prorate seven games over the whole year.
Well, what's 71 points?
Is that what they have them at now?
37 and a half
was the
bet three six five total
and they've got
how many points you get for a win
you get two
so 35 times a
is 70
yeah
are they going to get
35 wins
and no
jack made a noise
that I know
that came over
that's a no
the mic
you're not
honestly
now's not the time
right
they they're not
storing
they're looking
well I mean
this this could
and truly this
could be the worst part of their season.
They may not lose six in a row.
How does it get worse than this?
What are you talking about?
I'm just,
you mix in some,
maybe you lose four of six.
If Jack has the schedule there,
it's like Nashville,
Chicago,
like there's some teams that aren't division leaders coming up.
If you have the effort you did last night
and the goaltending you had last night,
and it's not Collar,
how about hell of a other?
Those could be wins.
You're going to win some games.
But don't go getting yourself in the mucky middle again.
Get ahead of this.
Like flyers,
let's lose the next black bucks.
That's four in a row.
those are all winnable games to this team in the sense that
if you have the better goalie you outwork them you can win those
you can outwork and have the better goal tender in the games before that and
still lose because you just they're so much more talented than you
the talent gap is much smaller with the preds flyers blue jackets of blackhawks
plus we're going to be in nashville for that one they're going to be they're going to be so
excited to have us they're going to be so excited he's so pumped it
week's going to come and give red a hug he loves hugs wearing wearing our
brassiers and cowboy hats.
Can't wait.
Can't wait.
Still in our Halloween costumes from the night before.
The other thing that tomorrow could be,
we know what the Habs experience is like at the dome at the best of times.
Now the flames are on a skid and the,
the Hab fans are excited.
Like last night,
the Blue Jays got a bigger roar than the flames did at any part of the night.
Not even close.
This is the hard.
It could be, what I'm saying is it could be bordering on kind of embarrassing
morale busting for the flames.
People as fans need to stop.
And I, maybe stops not through one shot.
Don't.
Do you want either one?
Well, whatever.
I'm just saying that we'll be smarmy and we can laugh about it, but don't go to the dome and throw a jersey on this.
It's what they are.
Yeah, yeah.
It's what they are.
Let's think about our eyes wide open and our brain actually working.
well, they don't score.
They're not offensively gifted.
They've got no high-end talent.
They're getting older with a bunch of guys.
They've got some real good second, third line guys.
Anderson wants out of here.
They're playing them with Bean or Hanley or whoever else.
Like, recognize what the team is and don't,
don't piss and moan about it.
I think there's such a huge portion of this fan base that is ready to sacrifice.
I know, but that's the,
That's where it gets shitty.
As a player and as a fan, because we're seven games in.
I'm kind of throwing in the towel however you want to describe it.
Don't go to the dome and boo.
Don't go to, yes, it's your right to cheer or criticize, but I'm just.
This isn't the players.
I'm with you.
Go ahead, boo.
Don't throw shit in the ice.
Don't be wearing.
Yeah, this is not a team that should be.
at a, you know, tremendous levels.
This isn't that are Rangers, right?
This isn't a group that won the President's trophy.
They aren't underperforming.
Yeah.
They are what they are.
And this might be the best thing for you as a fan.
I think most people get that.
I really do.
But I'm with you.
Don't question here on paper bags.
Yeah, don't wear a pair.
Early for paper bags.
Early.
No, there's nothing to be embarrassed.
It's not embarrassing.
It might be disappointing.
It might be, you know,
Darn.
This is a lost season.
Except if you win the lottery.
Yeah.
When Game 82 is over.
Except that in three years,
if you're significantly better because you didn't have a good season,
just don't be ignorant about it.
And we will be because we have to talk.
Oh, we're assholes.
You know what we need to do truly.
And you brought it up early.
And I think it's great.
It's all coming together now.
You're an idea.
I do.
We do need to invest in a bingo machine.
Yeah.
Because with the draft lottery and all that,
We're going to be doing so much bingo ball talk and everything.
We should really get a bingo ball machine.
Jack, run that up the flag ball.
See if the bosses, we can pull off a $7 purchase.
Is there some sort of a kinsman group that's got an old one trying to get rid of?
That's a great idea.
Some sort of keynote thing from Channel 8 20 years ago.
There's some community hall.
Charity group out there.
Because, yeah, there's probably one that's sitting there.
Are we going to get rid of this goddamn?
But I actually meet it.
I know that we have.
we have fun and we take cheap shots.
You can call whatever,
I don't care that they're bad.
Would I prefer they're good?
Yeah, but I prefer they're really good.
And in this year,
middling good.
In this year,
your actual big picture preference
is to be god-awful and get McKenna.
I'm sorry, that's it.
This is the best case scenario.
Two years, great.
The next two years.
Get studs.
Get studs.
High end.
Keep picking,
grabbing first rounders,
keep getting rid of guys
that are on the wrong side of 30.
keep amassing young talents, keep having strong drafts, keep developing kids in the A,
and finally hit a superstar at the top of the draft.
Finally.
Stop giving it.
Because you're a friend of, I get it now.
Funny of that works.
Double standard of sorts.
Oh.
