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Starting point is 00:00:01 Calgary probably in some small way is relishing in what's going on in Toronto. I mean, it's always East versus West, right? And then you've got the Trillivan connection back to the Calgary Flames. You know, it's borderline impossible to explain how this team has just unraveled in the way that they have. You know, and I mean, look, there's simplistic hockey elements that aren't being observed. And last night was part of that. You know, not to. to just pile on Anthony Stollars,

Starting point is 00:00:35 who's just fresh back off a long-term injury. But, you know, it seems like every mistake of late is ending up in the Toronto net. And that was certainly the case against Seattle. And that would be demoralizing. I mean, and again, I'm not trying to pile on the goalie, but right, you've probably been there where, you know, you're just in that rut.

Starting point is 00:00:56 And a small mistake, just automatically, poof. You know, one play, two plays later. it is in the net when it can be okay somebody stands in on a shot block or you don't turn that puck over on the half haul or your goalie makes a save but one of those three things has to happen in order to not go down the road that the maple leaves are on right now so it's a tire fire it really is and based on volume we know every canadian market you know we in the media we get our teeth out every once in a while the claws come with it and and we we expect answers just based on volume in Toronto, it's coming from all corners. And they're 10 points out of a wildcard spot. So they deserve the heat that they're taking right now. We went the last two days at length about this,

Starting point is 00:01:45 talking with noodles on Wednesday about how you fix this. Is there a fix or is this like all of a sudden we're looking at a major pivot? Who's even the guy to do it? Do they trust true to do that if they haven't liked what they saw in the last six months? And then yesterday a row still came in and basically said, it's been the same core forever and this core has shown you over and over and over again that when the games are at the biggest and they matter the most, sometimes they just don't even show up. And that seems to be more often than the signature performances you'd expect from

Starting point is 00:02:12 stars. So where do you assign blame and how in the world can they fix this? Well, it's a hard one to come to terms with because you need all hands on deck and everybody on board to accept if you believe what Jay Rose Hill is saying and that this is maybe not a leadership, but a core issue, right? Yeah. And I can appreciate that argument. I mean, this collective group has been together a long time, long enough where, you know, look at McDavid and Dryside. I mean, at least they've helped the Edmondson lawyers to back-to-back Stanley Cup finals.

Starting point is 00:02:43 Toronto hasn't even come close. Right. Now, you can play the what-if game. You know, what if they eliminate the Florida Panthers last year? You know, maybe things are different for the team, but they didn't. They didn't do that. And so I understand what Jay is saying. but who's making that call?

Starting point is 00:03:03 And I'm not belittling Brad as general manager of the Maple Leafs. When you are considering trading a core piece, and let's just cut through the BS. You're talking about Austin Matthews. You're talking about the captain of the team. You're not doing that in season. You do that in the off season. You know you're going to get a boatload of return,

Starting point is 00:03:23 but is the fan base going to be okay with it? And then by extension, ownership. You know, where's ownership's position? Because there wouldn't be a general manager in the league who could pull off a deal like that of that magnitude without getting full clearance from ownership. It wouldn't happen. So beyond that, and that seems highly unlikely, are there other pieces? Sure. You know, can you go to Morgan Riley and say, we need to, you know, we, we, you've had enough time.

Starting point is 00:03:50 It's all working out. You have a no move clause. You do that only if you've got a partner willing to take on the contract of Morgan Riley. otherwise why would you do that you're not going to go to the player and say we want to trade you are you interested no you bring one or two options to the player and say these teams are interested you do you want to change are you willing to consider it and then i think that's more likely than not is management targeting a guy like morgan riley and saying are you you know here's the interest we have does any of this interest you and i don't know that you can do that between

Starting point is 00:04:27 now in March 6th. That might have to drift the end of the summer. So then you're talking about the easy stuff, making an decision on Bobby McMahon, making a decision on Scott Lott and Carly Yarncroke, Troy Stetcher. Those are the unrestricted free agent guys. Yeah. Okay. And so I agree with you. Like when flying the wall in the room is interesting because we have questions about the core. Flying the room in the coach's office is interesting because, you know, they brought Beruba in to play a certain style. And this team is as far away from Craig Burubi hockey. So that's, interesting. The GM's office is interesting for the reasons we just talked about. But what you're saying and what I agree with is it might be the fly on the wall in Keith Pelley's office that might be the

Starting point is 00:05:05 real telling fly. A number of different reasons too, right? I mean, with a trade of the significance of moving even a core guy. You know, again, that's being run by Keith Pally and ultimately ownership. But then as you alluded to earlier, you know, Brad Trillings been looking for top six forward since, you know, the rumblings around Mitch Marner, the Carolina hurricanes debacle last year, all of that, right? Now, I don't blame him for not being able to find one, but I would submit that other teams find good players and players that fit into, you know, what they've built. That hasn't been the case here in Toronto. It really hasn't been. but I don't see anybody out there right now.

Starting point is 00:05:56 You fire Brad Trilliving today. Who's coming in that's going to replace him? Is Rob Blake better? I mean, I don't know, maybe, but Rob Blake is going to deal with the same assets that Brad Trilliving is looking at right now. But to your point, I think, Ryan, and how this, you know, creeps into the office of Keith Pelly,

Starting point is 00:06:18 if you believe that a full, rebuild is necessary here and you're willing to tackle with the top of the food chain from a player standpoint, then I think it's fair that you have to have those questions answered. You're either on side with Brad Trilliving being the guy to navigate you through the next phase, whatever that looks like, or you're not, or you're not. And you fire Brad. You know, nobody is telling Brad Trilliving out of manager Toronto Maple Leaf's. including Keith Belly.

Starting point is 00:06:53 He may have opinions on things that he would like to see, but he's not commanding or demanding at this point. So any fundamental changes like that, I think, are probable or more likely, if not probable, if this team misses the playoffs in the summer, than anything else.

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