Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Zayne Parekh Might Not Have Been READY For The NHL 😬 | BB Clips

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

Boomer and Rhett discuss Flames rookie Zayne Parekh and whether the team should regret keeping him in the NHL this season. After getting injured over the weekend against the Blackhawks and struggling ...to find his footing early on, it’s fair to ask — was Parekh really ready for the NHL? Because of the CHL-NHL rule, he couldn’t play in the AHL, leaving the Flames with limited options. The guys debate if Calgary made the right call or if they might regret not sending him back to junior hockey.Video Link: https://youtu.be/ttcyEGYmyUQ#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #nhlpicks #stanleycup #stanleycupfinal #calgary #calgaryflames CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️FLAMESNATION MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Zane Perak injured in the game against the Chicago Blackhawks. He is on the injured reserve. IR. I are listed as week to week. We discussed this about a week to 10 days ago that there were some hits that he was taking. There was the hit against the, with the Vegas Golden Knights, Colton Sizzins caught him. There had been two or three instances in, albeit he's played 11 games here now, in a very short amount of time, where he'd, he'd live.
Starting point is 00:00:37 left himself maybe a little bit. I would say he's been exposed in every game. Yeah. There's been physicality, which has had him in discomfort. This one here, a hit by Nick Falino along the wall. Now, I read about it before I saw it. I had things going on. It took a heavy hit, a big, massive hit from Nick Falino. That's called finishing your check. It's just not what I would, and it's not a shot against the kid, but it's just to everybody. but it's not a massive hit, but he took a hit. Obviously, you can see he's kind of feeling collar bones in that area. The ACs, yeah, operation there. And cut and you know what? The head, again, is the first, looks like it's almost the first thing that hits the glass along with everything else.
Starting point is 00:01:30 So he's taken some, he's taken some punishment. And now he is taken out of the lineup. He's got one point. And again, it depends how do you want to be cheeky, right? It's like, oh, Zee, William looks pretty good. This guy looks pretty good. I feel for the kid, he wants to make the National Hockey League. He wants to play hockey. They won't let him play in the American Hockey League. Stupid. Next year they will. So he's got to go back to the Ontario League, which, again, for the development of the player, we're no good. He's already dominated and has, if anything, created maybe bad habits from being able to do everything. Well, is that I'd love to have this.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Is that better than what's happening? Or have him here. Have him in your, in your greenhouse. This is right down my wheelhouse because I'm living in this world. What's better? Do you play the piss out of a guy in a league that he's already played in? Or do you,
Starting point is 00:02:32 I don't know? Has your opinion changed? My opinion will change if he's going to get himself injured. Because if you're not ready physically, and we can't determine that. If you can't get your head up and you're not ready physically, then that's danger, right? So if he's going to get injured, then no, he shouldn't be here.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Now, anyone can get injured. I was injured all the time. And I'm like... You're massive. Super fit. You're so huge. No, but even that hit. It's like, that was not a...
Starting point is 00:03:03 First, flames do that because that's called finishing your check. Right. Just a real solid thing to do when you're playing hockey. But he wasn't crushed. Felina just runs. And I don't know that he did he leave himself open there? No,
Starting point is 00:03:18 it was sometimes it just happens. Just happens. That's a tough one to evaluate. They're not going to do anything with them. He's going to do spot duty this year. And it is what it is. And their approach would be, you keep your ass in the gym and continue to,
Starting point is 00:03:39 you don't need to go through the, the team isn't good enough that, and you're not contributing, that you need to go through the rigors of beating up your body and your first NHHL season. So come along for the ride. We'll play every other game. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:03:55 You could determine what you want to do with him. Right now you could say, okay, this is what we need to have out of him at the end of the year. And you look forward and sit down and go, okay, he needs actual workouts on these dates. And it's, the U.S. national team that they pick down
Starting point is 00:04:17 and they play in the U.S.HL League, they work the piss out of those guys six days a week. You are working out six days a week and they don't give a shit if they win or not. The point I'm getting at is that junior hockey teams don't do that. Like where he was last year, Zane Perak,
Starting point is 00:04:34 they were, I'm sure you're doing workouts, but they're winning hockey games and he's playing 30 minutes a night. he's not in the gym all the time maybe this is a good year to go you're playing 40 games here's where they are and develop a workout program development program around that this is not a we need zane per rec to help us get in the playoff situation yeah this is a we need zane perak to be really effing good in three years and by and the way to do that is skills continue it's got hell of the skills that's the thing i think it's off ice get a little bigger get a little stronger
Starting point is 00:05:08 whatever their focus is nowadays. It's not about size, but strength and mobility. Just do that. I don't give a shit if he has more points and, what's the guy's name? Zeevian William. Say it.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah, it's not that. Because right now it doesn't matter. I think Minnesota's in a better situation to try and make the playoffs than the flames are. So take advantage of it. Bring them along slow. And it's a stupid effing rule. If you want to send him to the minor for that two-week conditioning,
Starting point is 00:05:38 go ahead. But I think your focus with this kid is, it's not about how many points he can have for us this year. It's when he's, I don't even think it's about next year. Yeah. Because I think when this year continues to go on the piss, next year is not going to be, oh, we signed eight free agents and we're back to top 10. So I think you have a two-year window to go from 40 to 60 games, 60 to 82,
Starting point is 00:06:06 and in that season, have him ready to go and put up a bunch of points and play the piss out of them. Now you've got a 25 minute a night defenseman, whatever, maybe that's, but that should be the plan. Yeah. Not get him out there every night this year. Who cares if he's going to get injured? If he's out there and he's not getting crushed and he's contributed, plan. And I think that's maybe where we've seen, again, we talk about Connie for this. They see the same things we see. They see, and they also have the benefit of knowing what's going on behind the scenes. they know the whole story
Starting point is 00:06:36 injuries the mental pick the whole thing and that's why when he was being healthy scratch and everyone's like what the hell's going to get out to play the shit I is
Starting point is 00:06:47 well I said it you might as well play him but if he's going to get hurt then I disagree yeah I just it's I guess my opinion has changed a little bit because I was with you
Starting point is 00:06:56 you don't send him to the world juniors and obviously I still don't think you send him to the world junior I don't know what's the benefit of that I don't know it's like well he could have a taste of winning and play a bunch. He's playing in the piece.
Starting point is 00:07:07 NHL. This is the best league in the world. You're not going to get better. I don't give it. It's not a shot at the world juniors. I love turning the world junior. Awesome hockey, great opportunity, cool event.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It's not the NHL. Yeah. And if he's in the NHL, he's with you. You know what he's eating. You know what he's doing. You know what he's training. What is everything.
Starting point is 00:07:30 You don't, I think nine times out of ten, you can. But you send him to say, somebody else and he's now on their watch. Who was that kid? Well, even McAvoy last year. Yeah, you go to the Four Nations and how's, we got to play the shit out of this guy because gets hurt.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Well, out. Darn, that's not great for us. But it does change. And I don't care about that. You can go or not go. You can go to the miners or not go. I think, but I would. And the reason that Gawney has all this knowledge is that Jesse
Starting point is 00:08:04 he listens and she tells you what we're saying. So there. Map out of plan, get him into gin, get him stronger, and don't worry about how many games he's playing. Pick a number. 40. Great. So where does that come in?
Starting point is 00:08:19 And I'm not coming at you. But somewhere between play the piss out of him and just. He has to establish himself as capable of getting the piss played out of him and not exposing himself to injury. and can you I you can go back and forth and are you meaning it
Starting point is 00:08:38 into minors? No, I just send them back or playing the piss out of them here just because I don't disagree with you but it's build a program and it's less about how many games you play it's just more about
Starting point is 00:08:49 so it's like play some games or or play the shit out of them yeah but he has to establish if he's ready to have the shit played out of him and by continuing to get blasted he's got one point and I don't blame him for that because this team don't score. Yeah. I think you.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Yeah, you can have the conditioning and the skill level and all of that to play 20 a night in the NHL. But if for whatever reason, you're taking knocks and getting injured and hit over and over, then it's not worth it because of the year that it is. Yes, exactly. I think all we're saying is don't be short-sighted. and you can play the piss out of him and he can have a hell of a year and it sets or you could say after watching him for 11 games where are you at I think he's better than some of their defensemen but that doesn't mean in a season like this you need to play him all the time I've said play him all
Starting point is 00:09:50 play the piss out of him because he's better but now you're like well if you're going to get your ass wrong up every game then It's different than these ones we've had in the past. The Sam Bennett one was high profile and obviously that... The person I was watching with the game, the game was yesterday was critical of that situation again. I shouldn't even say that. Right, but to a lesser extent, Sean Monaghan, because, you know, he played well. But young player who entry-level deal kicked in when,
Starting point is 00:10:26 maybe in hindsight they didn't they should have gone somewhere else to play even though we lose a little bit of all or the other side of that quote or the other side of that coin is you played the piss out of a guy that's still on your team and didn't give him a opportunity to that's a little different for sure but i think when you talk to some people about sam but oh they you know they shouldn't have kept them they should have sent them down should have sent them back whatever the case may be I don't know. Maybe time will tell and it will come back to this and be like that. For that season,
Starting point is 00:10:58 which was a loss season, he ended up getting to 11 so you'd trigger year one of that. That was a royal F up. Absolutely royal F up. They didn't use them and they didn't develop them. And he was like Porek. Well, that's who I'm talking about now.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Okay. I'm saying maybe down the road we view it similarly. He didn't play anyway that year. He got injured, but you still triggered year one of that deal. I don't care about. the triggering of the because I don't it's not my job to worry about Mr. Edwards money and how we are like that shit's good and it's not like these kids are getting
Starting point is 00:11:30 held back you know what I mean like yes there are implications but are we if Perak's getting to where he's supposed to he's supposed to be in the Sanderson who else oh yeah just the young elite the young elite like it's supposed to go from here to here contract-wise It's not supposed to be, oh, well, we're not sure what he is. We're going to bridge deal him. Yeah. Right? Like, I don't think that's what they're looking at.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And I don't care. That's too. Yeah, I don't either. I don't either. And I kind of, like I say, I feel for everybody involved because it was two weeks ago, or last week or whenever, when I sat here and I said, you don't, you're not sending them anywhere. You did just, he's got to learn how to take a hit or he's got to learn how to avoid or we discussed this. but now as you sit here
Starting point is 00:12:22 going back to junior would it have been the worst thing in the world maybe it wouldn't have been there is no right or wrong it we will not know Sam Bennett you brought it up did we know he's good until he went to Florida how many years into his career was that so you're not going to know this by the end of this year
Starting point is 00:12:41 you won't know by the end of next year now if you put him out if you keep him here and he gets his bell rung again and it blows the same shoulder out you'll be like shit See, that's the thing for me, right? Because it's the human side. You've got a kid who gets injured in that. I feel for Connie and those guys because what do you do with the player,
Starting point is 00:13:01 Perak? Well, he's a first round. He's a commodity for the team. And if there's going to be success, how big a part it's going. Then you strip that away. Well, here's a 19-year-old who's taken some heavy hits, who wants to be in the NHL. His parents are, right?
Starting point is 00:13:16 I would feel bad if I... You're on the cusp of making the league. you want to make and then I just feel bad for, I feel bad for Conroy because it's like, well, now we got the kid hurt. Did you, you'll just question, did I make the right call? Did we do the right thing?
Starting point is 00:13:30 Because you don't want him getting hurt. No. Talent wise, he deserves to be here. But he's taken some knocks and now he's week to week. It's like, shit. Well, we didn't, can he, can he hold his own skill wise? We'll have that conversation.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Nobody wants the guy's getting hurt. And especially here, it wasn't even that violent a hit. but now it's there's literal and figurative repair to be done for this kid it's it's just tracking towards kind of a shit season for the kid when your team is horseshit that's kind of yeah that's what it'll be but there's no right or wrong yeah because it's you're not going to know for three years

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