Beach Too Sandy, Water Too Wet - 133: Reviews of Gay Bars

Episode Date: June 16, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:23 Call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca. Please play responsibly. Welcome to Beach to Sandy, Water to Wet, a podcast featuring real reviews written by people who just need the world to know what they think. need the world to know what they think. Between you and me, I wanted to like this podcast, but I'd give it zero stars if I could. Hello, hello. Welcome to Beach, You Say Any Water any water too wet podcast where two siblings read shitty reviews from the internet my name is alex i'm christine happy pride happy pride thank you so much uh i'm feeling the love it's no longer your birthday so we're allowed to focus on Proud. I'm allowing everyone to switch gears and focus on somebody else for now, for once. For once, for once.
Starting point is 00:01:32 And she was gracious enough to allow me to actually talk about a little event we've got going on with Human Seeking Human, my other podcast that I co-host with my co-host Liz. And we're doing a Pride Month event, and we're raising money for Trans Lifeline, which is actually the first ever transgender crisis hotline to exist in the U.S. Yeah, they do a lot of phone support and micro-grants for transgender people.
Starting point is 00:02:00 So what we're doing is we're raising money through a raffle. So all the details have not been ironed out yet because we're recording this episode pretty early um but those details will be at human c on the instagram human seeking pod but basically you can enter the raffle and we're going to pick a few winners and the winners will get to watch live and be in the recording session online virtually when we record this bonus pride episode with our guests cool uh-huh that sounds fun yeah it's gonna be really cool so they get to uh it's like the site we use to record our podcast you can have multiple people in as guests so we're gonna invite a few fans into a little audience yeah be our audience it's only gonna be a few so if you live studio audience we're going to invite a few fans into a little audience yeah be our audience it's
Starting point is 00:02:45 only going to be a few so if you live studio audience we're really excited for it it's going to be lots of fun um it's going to be at the end of june so all the details though are going to come out on instagram once we've ironed it all out um it's going to be very exciting very fun yeah with a couple special guests that i'm not sure if I'm supposed to announce yet or not. So I'm going to hold off on it. But check the Instagram. It sounds just as enticing when you say mysterious special guests. It's going to be fun. It's going to be great.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Awesome. Well, that being said, we are just in our Pride Month episode here. Our theme this week was gay bars, to use the colloquial term. And Zandy, you had a challenge yes from martin i did it what yeah i had a good you're always on top at least as of late you're on top of it always from martin two weeks um and uh it was to find reviews of places that the reviewer saw on tv uh saw in a movie or saw in a video game how was that actually really fun good especially because it gave me a little bit of freedom to kind of do what i want like i i rarely give him freedom so when he does get it he gets really excited like a show a movie or video game
Starting point is 00:03:57 that i enjoy like you can tailor it about it and i think oh yeah this is featured in there let me see for whatever reason my first instinct was Grand Theft Auto, which seemed really strange and random, but that's where my head went. We'll have to wait and see to find out what I got for you. Very exciting. Well, why don't you go first since this was your theme idea? So my theme, yeah. Honestly, most of these reviews, the negative ones, could be summed up with just the phrase straights TM.
Starting point is 00:04:28 It was seriously just like. What's that phrase? Isn't there a thing that you can tag on Facebook, like a group that you can tag? Oh, probably. Like the straights are at it again, I think is what it is. It's very funny. Are the straights okay? Are the straights okay?
Starting point is 00:04:45 Like subreddit I enjoy. Yeah. And it appears not. Appears many are not. But yeah, a lot of it was about straight people who were, not that they were necessarily going to these. The issue was how they acted and the reasons why they went.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I'm just saying it. It was a lot, but, um, yeah. So there are a lot of those kinds of reviews. It seems like straight people ruin everything, which I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:05:11 What? Yeah. I'm sorry for doing that. For real? so it got some nice self-reflection. Speaking of which, I have a review of below zero lounge, which I went to a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Hey yo. I went there for a drag show it's my first ever drag show and it was a blast i had a lot of fun so this is a two-star review by beatrice that's here in cincinnati that is here in cincinnati yeah this place is a hit or miss you could go for fun on thursdays for karaoke or go to see all the gay boys of Cincinnati. Not really a place for the ladies. Okay. Right. The ladies who are just perpetually only in places where they could find others with whom to reproduce, I guess.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. It just didn't seem very nice about how many gay men specifically were there. there this is the point one star this is the point of this location and it does what it's intended to do yeah maybe maybe the problem was not enough gay women i don't know oh maybe but still i feel like what do you expect kind of thing yeah and also a gay bar like if you see a lot of just like go somewhere else yeah i guess
Starting point is 00:06:25 yeah but apparently based on an email we got there aren't too many like lesbian bars like yeah i guess gay bar does have that connotation of being more geared toward men yeah yeah i i can see that that's interesting and again i want to uh point out that that's a very umbrella terminology um that sounds very like a gay bar i felt weird googling that and like even bringing it to the table as the as the theme i was like it feels like it's not as inclusive as it should be it doesn't i agree it doesn't feel as inclusive as it should or could be but i think most of these places now like even though that's the terminology you we've i've used to find them most of them call themselves, like even though that's the terminology I've used to find them,
Starting point is 00:07:05 most of them call themselves different kinds of names that are more inclusive just in general for the LGBTQ+. Yeah, they call themselves terrible, terrible names to show how inclusive they are. No, they advertise themselves as like LGBTQ plus friendly bars instead of just gay bars. I mean, and I want to point that out so it doesn't sound like we're like medieval over here um i think it's just easier we are but we are just don't want you to know that i know if you hear some clanking it's because we're in our knight's armor um i'm sorry i am sorry okay this was sent in by carolyn this is all our catholic guilt is convincing us we're doing things wrong already.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And we haven't even gotten any emails about this. I know. I know. And I hope both of you know where we're coming from here. Both of you? You said, I hope both of you know. I said, most of you. We only have two listeners.
Starting point is 00:07:59 How many times do I have to tell you that? Where'd the other two go? I thought we had like four. how many times did i tell you that no no the other two go i thought we had like four most of you know that we're uh you know we understand we're we have a broader mindscape than what we sometimes project but anyway let's just get into this email this is just i know i listen i shouldn't have even gone there this is from carolyn it's just a saga, okay? Interestingly, my reviews that I found were not necessarily straight through everything. It was just kind of like typical one-star reviews that also had to do with gay bars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:37 That like occurred at gay bars. LGBTQIA plus friendly bars. The location just kind of gave it that extra flair. Yes, yes. Exactly. You could read that review about any place. Exactly. So this was a review.
Starting point is 00:08:51 It's almost as if people who go to these places are also people. Are similar. Or maybe even the same. One star of Mr. Henry's restaurant in D. dc and it is by simone i like that name i had an awful experience here i would leave no stars if i could however one star it is we went to this place during lunch i ordered crab dip and onion rings the dip tasted as if it were microwaved and just wasn't very fresh i informed informed the waiter that I didn't like it. He said he'd handle it and removed the dip from the table.
Starting point is 00:09:29 I then ordered dessert, thinking that would be better. The raisin bread pudding was also microwaved. What are you ordering? I don't know why you thought that would be better. That's on you. I like cringed at the beginning. Like, oh. Crab dip.
Starting point is 00:09:43 What would you like? Give me some crab dip and some onion rings i love onion rings and i used to like crab dip yeah but like somehow that just doesn't i don't know at a bar too like i don't know what mr henry's is like but i it just doesn't strike me as something you order at a place called mr henry's in the middle of the day like and then also to say i ordered dessert it was a raisin bread pudding. Like, what are you doing? That's your fault. It's no one's fault but your own.
Starting point is 00:10:07 This raisin bread pudding tastes like raisin bread pudding. It's gross. It also tastes like it's been microwaved, which is like, what does it taste like when it's not microwaved? Yeah, there's no good way to prepare that if you ask me. What's the relative? Okay. The raisin bread pudding was also microwaved and not very good. I asked for the
Starting point is 00:10:25 check and the crab dip was still on it when i mentioned it to the waiter he says you ate it so i couldn't take it off the bill at this point i'm totally confused because he'd clearly removed the dip from the table he then says i'll let you speak to someone else her name was kathy i believe i'm not sure if she's the manager or not but was extremely rude and racist she came to the table accusing me of eating the dip that i know for a fact I did not and tells me I have to pay for it. I'm super lost at this point because I was under the impression my waiter had taken care of this.
Starting point is 00:10:53 This entire interaction was unnecessary. He removed the dip from the table. Let me continue ordering raisin bread pudding only to have the manager insult me by saying you ate all the crab out of the dip so oh i missed that until now you ate all the crab out of the dip so you have to pay for it which did not happen because it tasted horrible i did not pay for the dip they claimed to have trashed but expected payment for later this resulted in police having to be called which was so embarrassing i'm not normally the type to send food back or
Starting point is 00:11:25 leave a review, but I have never been treated so poorly. If staff here feels compelled to argue over food that is disliked by the customer, that says a lot about the service and food quality. I've worked in the service industry for many years and would have never carried on this way. Even if I felt the customer was wrong, I would have taken that loss, apologized, and tried to offer something in its place. In this industry, we take losses especially when it comes to food and or drinks. It's just really sad that the servers here haven't learned which losses are inevitable. This place was a Capitol Hill staple.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Mr. Henry, please remedy this problem before losing more potential customers' best wishes. There it is at the end. The ask of obviously wanting a free meal or something out of it by saying, this remedy this problem something um there's a response from oh man kathy okay i can't wait to hear this response from owner my name is kathy and i am the manager i never spoke to you and quite frankly do not know anything about this occurrence i came in today when a police report was being filed for someone who refused to pay their bill and left i had no End of response. Yeah, hello. This is so confusing to me, though, because this reviewer was like,
Starting point is 00:12:42 I spoke to Kathy, the manager, and she accused me of eating all the crab out of the dip and then kathy was like i literally don't know what's going on i mean maybe they found out that the manager's name was kathy and was like okay kathy they were like okay my our manager kathy is coming in i don't know and then we'll contact kathy or something and then they turn it into like like i hate that attitude of like it's it's a loss you got to take it this is what we did it's like it doesn't matter even if i'm wrong yeah and it's hello like but you should recognize that it shouldn't be that way yeah agreed and i it just gets me that like kathy's like listen i'm not even like angry i'm just really confused like yeah who are you who
Starting point is 00:13:22 are you also i've never spoken about crab dip or otherwise and or otherwise and i feel like you'd remember if you had a very very very tense conversation about crab dip with someone yeah i hope if you accuse someone of picking crab out of crab dip i hope you'd remember that i feel like that's not a an everyday conversation unless that's maybe that's something that happens there maybe it is but yeah i honestly it sounds like you should have just fucking paid your bill yeah i mean like and i i hate that they never have when they say i worked in the food industry they rarely have empathy they they always use that as an excuse to the like to excuse their behavior yeah which is um yeah and i i feel like i get it like if someone says
Starting point is 00:14:13 i'll remove this from the table if you didn't like it i get it that like the assumption that they're gonna take it off the bill so i can see both sides but this just got so weird in terms of like it got to the point the police had to be called it clearly got escalated to a point that i'm sure a restaurant doesn't want to escalate it i was gonna say i don't think they want to have to deal with the police cassie was at home watching watching queer eye and got a fucking call called in like i just i just picked queer eye because i've been watching i was wondering what that was about i'm not saying it's because we're doing gay bars i'm saying because i've been watching Queer Eye. I was wondering what that was about. I'm not saying it's because we're doing gay bars.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I'm saying because I've been watching Queer Eye. I've also been watching Call the Midwife. Okay, so I could have said that just as easily. Okay, Francisca got to you. She hasn't gotten to me yet. Oh, she got to me. She's been dropping hints that I should watch that show for a long time now. Honestly, I had it on a list and I kept saying, it said next to it, ask Francisca because
Starting point is 00:15:01 I knew she'd talk me into it. And she did. So also, it is also the being pregnant part i was like well i guess it's relevant um but that is not why i said queer i i just this one of my faves we're gonna man i sound like a real douchebag this entire episode we're gonna be walking back everything we say i'm like an apologist i'm like i don't even know what i'm like i don't think anyone would have even thought twice about it if i just said and then now we had a whole conversation about it yep that's how we do this because they should be
Starting point is 00:15:33 used to this by now we always act this way one time i said oh i love queer eye and i got like the nastiest email being like oh you're spreading like really terrible or whatever. So sometimes I just get really nervous. That's all. Well, let me read a review that'll make you feel so much better. This is a review of Boxers PHL. It's a place in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. This is by Anonymous. Two stars.
Starting point is 00:15:59 This is the gay version of Hooters. Those are more like briefs than Boxer. And the bartenders are mostly straight would have been fun to see some more adult action but it was eh i didn't like it end of review oh so it was interesting because i thought at the first half i'm like oh they're criticizing how sexualized the employees are yeah but at the end it's like i needed some more action here yeah boxers do it for me not briefs i find boxers to be far more sexual i just realized that that was a reference to the name of the place boxers phl i was wondering about that i was like oh i wonder
Starting point is 00:16:40 if someone was like oh look they're wearing boxers and they're like no those are briefs i'm slow sorry oh me too i'm slow too um yeah um oh shit so i just googled the place and it's maybe should have done this before it says from the philadelphia inquirer it says a gaber hood bar said it closed quote due to hate the full story is more complicated and then there's a quote from someone they have literally closed themselves and are trying to pin it on other people so i have no idea i'm not getting into this because that was just the top result so yeah it's apparently closed oh my um we'll have to do it i was curious about that uh because i saw boxers and i knew it was a sports bar it was also like also it's a sports style bar which a lot of people had um issues with sure but yeah interesting okay don't expect boxers expect
Starting point is 00:17:31 briefs everybody i see i get i'm so i didn't get it i didn't get it well you know what no i don't different strokes just no for different folks okay this is from Amanda Sheher Shefer. Thank you, Amanda. And this is a review of a bar. And she said, North Carolina bars stop serving alcohol and typically close at 2 a.m. Just for reference. So here's the review. It's a one star of Scandals Nightclub.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Ooh. By Patty. They turned away our entire wedding party at 2 a.m they said they were cleaning the place out and it was clear that it was our clientele only even though we were 50 people strong and i was in a wedding dress the bartender even gave me the middle finger they completely ruined our wedding evening one thumbs up end of review 50 okay what are you like talking about like you're an army and you're gonna like we have 50 people why is there a positive thing like they're saying that's a reason they should have been let in because they were 50 people like they're gonna overpower
Starting point is 00:18:35 everybody turning the drawbridge up we couldn't let them cross the moat like it sounds threatening like we were 50 people and you dare to deny a service and i was in a wedding dress leading leading the army i mean if you're showing up at a nightclub that is not expecting you yeah at 2 a.m when it's presumably closing and they say we're cleaning out with 50 people with 50 folks in your group why are you surprised and all they did was say no and flip you off you got out pretty got off pretty easy there if you ask me and the middle finger didn't really clarify uh why also i just looked up their hours they close at 2 30 okay so there's no way in hell they're gonna let 50 of you in at 2 a.m do you know how many drinks they would need to suddenly open everything back
Starting point is 00:19:23 up and it makes no sense it makes no sense for them to allow that to happen but they're gonna be there for what 20 minutes goodness they're protecting their employees from that bullshit yeah i mean scandals is described i just saw it on here scandals nightclub gay friendly mainstay with drag shows i love when they uh when google calls things a mainstay have you noticed that google always calls things a mainstay i don't even necessarily i Google always calls things a mainstay. I don't even necessarily understand what that is. Is that like a, it's a,
Starting point is 00:19:49 maybe a local place that has been there for a while and will continue. Longstanding mainstay. Yeah. Or like a staple maybe. I think that's probably a direct synonym. I like that. Anyway. So that's that.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Thank you you my dear amanda i've got another one from boxers this is from nate one star baby it's philly not new york city you're a four not a ten honestly if they looked like they acted you'd be in manhattan but in philly the staff acts like they are all that and they aren't i mean skills too not just looks pricey loud typical philly trying to be a straight sports bar fail eye candy is better at least they are good looking friendly and professional it's too bad it's a place by the way it's too bad i can't get in since i'm none of the above honestly fella cough up photos that's what i want to see cough up photos if you're gonna be pulling swings like pulling punches like this i hate it right you better
Starting point is 00:20:51 like prove you are hot shit and deserve like the manhattan treatment if you're if you're gonna be running around going you're a four baby yeah like oh my god yeah that's rude i don't like it doesn't matter what your sexuality is uh thank you okay no i'm just okay i know that came off like apologist again what i'm saying is it doesn't matter when people talk like that it absolutely drives me because you hear that a lot with guys too like oh this girl thought she was a like she she rejected me and then i said typical nice guy behavior it's like you yeah someone won't sleep with you so you call them like oh this girl thought she was a like she she rejected me and then i suddenly called her nice guy behavior it's like you yeah someone won't sleep with you so you call them a slut or something or ugly or suddenly they are disgusting you never want to sleep with them anyway i mean
Starting point is 00:21:34 it's the same thing and like it doesn't it just clearly happens across the board we're all just shitty people that's what i'm learning okay this is from carrie she here thank you carrie it's a review from her favorite local gay bar southern nights in orlando this is a one-star view by rebecca i encourage all to read the bad reviews about this place and take them as truth. Some are pretty shocking. I wish I had checked them out before going to this club. As for my experience, security was so rude. Before I was even able to make it inside the building, I got yelled at, I guess for not knowing where to pay. The club is small, which isn't a bad thing, but in my opinion, the music wasn't great. When I go to the club, I'm trying to shake my ass, not sit on a couch listening to 2000s pop throwbacks. That sentence doesn't equate to me.
Starting point is 00:22:33 They want to get up and dance instead of sitting on a couch and listening. To 2000s pop throwbacks. That doesn't equate to me. What do you mean? You can't just sit down on a couch and listen to 2000s pop throwbacks. Oh, so you're saying that... It's impossible. It's an oxymoron.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Yeah. So you're on their side because they want to dance too. No, because if you're listening to 2000s pop throwbacks, you can't help but get up and shake my ass. But they... Why can't they shake their ass? Are they complaining? I'm confused. Are they complaining about the type of music or how difficult it is to dance to?
Starting point is 00:23:07 They're trying to shake their ass, not just sit on a couch listening to 2000s pop throwbacks. Okay. They don't want the 2000s pop throwbacks. Okay. I can't tell if that's it or if they're just saying they want to be able to stand up and dance, but they can't. I'm not understanding this. They can't because they're being a big baby and refuse to okay it's
Starting point is 00:23:26 only about the music the reason they can't dance is just about the music i'm sorry okay they didn't say they can't dance they just said when i go to the club here i'll say it again the club is small which isn't a bad thing but the music wasn't great when i go to the club i'm trying to shake my ass not sit on a couchless needed 2000s pop throwbacks. Weird. I don't mind a variety of music, but there wasn't a variety. I wasn't there long at all, but none of the music made me want to dance.
Starting point is 00:23:51 It made me want to think about the awful time I had in sixth grade. Okay, that's very much a you problem. Yeah, okay, sorry. Yeah, I don't think it was making sense to me either because I was like, what? That is the ultimate dance music. I can't believe that they can't just dance to that. I got kicked out after maybe 10 minutes. Well, I mean, I guess they didn't know there wasn't variety because three songs played.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Why'd they get kicked out? I'll tell you. I got kicked out after maybe 10 minutes for allowing my 20-year-old friend to take a sip of my drink. She wasn't even holding the cup. I know it's still against the law, but I didn't get any type of warning. They just kicked us out and literally snatched my drink, which spilled it on me. I totally get having to kick me out, but the way they did it didn't make me want to come back. And the whole atmosphere from beginning to end didn't
Starting point is 00:24:40 make me feel like I was missing anything other than a drag show because all the staff was rude and the music was lame. I was there to see some drag, not to get drunk or to get my friend drunk, but even if I was trying to get my friend drunk, they could have just respectfully asked us to leave so that I wouldn't have to be upset and write a bad review. I get it, I broke the law, but damn, I'm still pissed at the way I was treated even before I let my friend have a single sip of my drink. All around bad experience from the music to the customer service. And like I said, I was there for only about 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:25:13 This is infuriating. Can't really judge the alcohol as it was confiscated almost immediately after I got it. But yeah, if you want a good time and good vibes, don't go. And they're obviously very strict about alcohol. End of review. 10 minutes and the first thing you do is literally break the law in there and doing something that can get them in a lot of trouble and then you have the audacity to write this review like i can't believe they even mentioned the fact that they didn't dance within 10 like they were there 10 minutes that's what i'm thinking and they say there wasn't enough variety it's like you heard us two songs you had
Starting point is 00:25:42 a blink 182 and then you got kicked out that's it like what do you mean you can't say oh there wasn't a variety you don't get to make that call no that makes no sense at all and it's so frustrating because they admit that they broke the law they admit what they did was bad and yet they're like you blame the location for how they oh my favorite though was when they said the way that they got kicked out. The way they kicked me out. It made her not want to come back. And it's like...
Starting point is 00:26:10 Everything else seems to be enough. Yeah, they don't want you to come back either. But also, like, everything else you said already doesn't sound like you want to come back. But okay. Yeah. Oh, Jesus. They just weren't respectful enough when they were kicking me out. That wasn't fun.
Starting point is 00:26:23 That was awful. My bad. No, whose bad was it? Who sent that in? Carrie. Carrie. Jesus. Come on, Carrie.
Starting point is 00:26:36 My next one is of Mad Myrna's. This is in Anchorage, Alaska. This is a one star by, this is by Myrna. Felt like I was at a low budget off-broadway musical all the songs sung were depressing ruined my high for 420 the dj has no skills anybody can spin a record had no crowd control changed tempo too much hashtag i miss nyc boy, here we go. I just love these. Poor Philly. I just love, this is, oh, Philly the person. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:27:11 No, I forgot. I thought we were still in Philly. Where are we now? We're in Alaska, Anchorage. That's why it's so wild to me. Like at least Philadelphia is close to New York where they can say like, oh, they're trying to be like New York or something.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I don't know. Not that I know any of this of this shit yeah but like it's at least close enough that there would be crossover yeah and yeah culture but like this is literally a bar in Anchorage Alaska and you're like complaining about how you missed New York City it's like again that's a you problem I know I brought up recently, but it's still my favorite of when that person described that really small art museum in Idaho and then said, this is nothing like the MoMA where I'm from. And I'm like, okay. It's so wild.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I don't get it. Really, no. I don't get it. I really just don't get it. Okay. Let's see. What do I have? What do I have?
Starting point is 00:28:02 Okay. This is an interesting one. This is from Catherine. And he says they, them pronouns. Thank you, Catherine. And this is a review of the North End gay bar. One star by Sandy. This place has no control over their customers.
Starting point is 00:28:21 This table and another across the room were taking their shirts off and fighting in the middle of the bar. On occasion, the staff would ask them to sit down, but as a whole, it's like COVID measures do not exist here. Maskless, shirtless, running around. I want to do my part to support local businesses, but I'll go to a bar that actually enforces the city's COVID ordinances and not put myself at this level of exposure um so when was this written uh two months ago why are you going like then don't go to a bar i don't understand okay well so you hear that right and you're like oh gosh don't be dramatic there's a photo i'm gonna turn the computer so you can see exactly what sandy was dealing with oh yikes there are literal shirtless strangers fighting inside the
Starting point is 00:29:06 book okay that's pretty not good i thought to myself oh come on sandy calm down and then i saw the photo and went always our instinct about when sandy says anything reviews reviewers but like i saw that and went oh dear like three feet from her own table. Yeah. Two shirtless men are brawling. Fist to cuffs. Yeah. They thought they were at boxers. Am I right? Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And so the owner responded and basically say like, we maintain social distancing. And it's like, well. Really? This photo doesn't really prove that. This is one of those where it sounds like maybe an apology. And not that they the rest the bar necessarily did anything to cause this no no but if they didn't manage to i don't know it just adds a little bit more uh control it more detail to this oh yeah that picture is yeah um and obviously i'm not composed it because his face is in it. But just basically picture like one man, one shirtless man.
Starting point is 00:30:06 They're squaring up. Charge at another shirtless man whose fist is up. They're both wearing, one's wearing a studded belt. The other was wearing one of those fun like preppy Fisher. I don't know. I just picture like the kind of boat style. Like yacht rock belt. Thank like thank you i get it um and they are ready to ready to brawl so uh sandy i'm sorry that i just really didn't believe you until i saw your
Starting point is 00:30:35 photographic evidence i know our instinct is always to just shit on reviewers and we always say oh come on it can't be what you actually explain and sometimes so far okay sometimes people write in they're like you're too hard on some of these reviewers and you know what maybe but so far no one has like written in with evidence or something to prove us wrong like it's specifically about ones that we've read i'm like you know what they were in the right i get it uh there's a brawl of two shirtless men maybe inches from your cheese fries so i can't actually fully blame you for this one exactly um so here is uh an email this is from ashley she her who says hello christine and zandy
Starting point is 00:31:21 my girlfriend alex and i are huge fans of your podcast and of atwwd we are so excited about this theme our favorite bar is henrietta's hudson and listen to this a queer human bar built by lesbians i love that queer human bar that's a that's a nice phrase yeah that's how that's how you're inclusive that's this is the email i was talking about earlier because um she also said it is one of the only 15 lesbian bars left in the country wow it is a fantastic place to hang out and now for some untrue negative reviews so and then also a redemption so first here is a one-star review by madeline this place sucks i wish i was back in columbus Ohio, where girl bars are rad. Yep, I said it. This New York City girl bar has nothing on a flyover state girl bar. Not even close. Weird backhanded compliment,
Starting point is 00:32:13 but I'll take it. It's so funny. I love this, seeing this email, because I read this email after I found the reviews I found, and mine were all like, oh, I miss New York. And then we get the opposite. We get someone who's like, the the columbus ohio one is better okay because i almost commented earlier when you were reading the alaska one like can you imagine if someone was in new york and said i just miss alaska bars but like honestly that's kind of what this is yeah it's this is it yeah i love it they're in new york and they're saying that they'd rather be in columbus okay to be fair this person who emailed this literally said like these are all untrue and true this is the best bar so i think we're just personally kind of well if ashley if she has checked out the columbus bar who knows maybe ashley will go to that columbus bar
Starting point is 00:32:56 whatever whichever one it is um and then we'll see the light and realize that ohio might have a gem or two did you guys know that that Ohio is actually the most LGBTQ friendly state in the entire world? In the world. It's true fact. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Well, that's not how Harvey feels. Harvey has a four star review of Henrietta Hudson. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:25 So, okay, maybe it is how Harvey feels. I don't know. Believe it or not. Don't put words in Harvey's mouth. Harvey did not say anything specific about Ohio in their review, but here we go. Four stars. You might find it odd that a boy can give a lesbian bar four stars, but since I secretly aspire to be a lesbian,
Starting point is 00:33:45 it's really not that unusual. Keep in mind, if you're a boy who hasn't been accepted into a tribe of lesbians, or you don't know the staff, you might not have a good time here. It's hard to get a drink at the crowded bar if you aren't accepted by the group. If you crave attention, you might get your feelings hurt. If you're not used to standing in line to wait for the bathroom, might get your feelings hurt. If you're not used to standing online to wait for the bathroom, don't drink. However, once you get past all that, HH is a great place. The music is varied and well put together. The staff know what they are doing. And who doesn't love a bar with a stripper cage? If I ever get to become a lesbian, Henrietta Hudson might become my go-to spot. Until then, have fun. H. I love these aspirations. If I ever get to become a lesbian.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I've talked. Aw. I mean, hey. Listen, the world is your oyster, man. All I cared about was the stripper cage, so I kind of ignored the rest. Go for it. Aw.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Well, I like when people can say, you know what, it has some flaws, but I aspire to's true it was actually information it was like informative it was very like hey just be aware might not be for you but it'll be for me someday yeah for me i'm like oh not stripper cage sounds great but then the whole not having attention that's not so good so that's why imagine alexander not getting any attention how sad would that be for you um okay let's see this is from becca who uses she her pronouns thank you becca and becca sent a really kind message and said there are a couple gay bars in tulsa oklahoma but i've only ever been to club majestic it's a wild place.
Starting point is 00:35:25 It's relatively cheap to go to, and the owner is great, but it's not for the faint of heart. So with that, here are a couple reviews and then a redemption. This is a one-star review by V. Was having a fun time until we got kicked out for my friend getting drunk simply dancing up on stage. He was alone on stage, but apparently he was a nuisance when no one was on stage with him thanks to them kicking us out he tried to throw himself off the bridge what i'm sorry it's just really a wild turn i mean hello yep this is hello that's it
Starting point is 00:36:02 thanks to them kicking us out he tried to throw himself off the bridge at the center of the universe. Worst, which I assume is something. What? That's, no, I don't know, Christina. That's some heavy shit. That sounds like... The bridge at the center of the universe.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I don't watch Marvel, but is that a Marvel thing? I don't, Christina. Oh, it's a pedestrian bridge in Tulsa. Okay, so that's what I thought. It's like a place. That's funny. Okay. He tried to throw himself off the bridge at the center of the universe.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Worst night ever and super judgmental atmosphere. Response from owner. We are sorry about the circumstances with your friend. As a general rule, we do not kick people out just for being a nuisance unless we've already had contact with them during the night several times. Judging by the behavior you have described afterwards with your friend, it sounds like there was more going on with him than perhaps you realize. Oh no. Going forward, keep an eye on your friend and watch for activity you find unusual. End of response.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Oh no. Okay. If you have to hear that from a bar owner response. To your negative review. Like, yeah. Maybe your first instinct wasn't, I'm going to write a negative review after this happened. Like, maybe figure out what's going on. Maybe sit down and have a talk. Yeah. It does not sound too good.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Yeah. So here's another review. This is from Allie. It's a one-star review. I am 19 and did not get in and was threatened that I would go to jail. This place is whack. Thought I was in the 1950s. These dudes are crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Response from owner. The only reason anyone is threatened with going to jail is fighting, breaking a law, using a fake ID, or underage drinking. In the future, before leaving a negative online review, please make sure you furnish people with the complete story. In your case, it was trying to trespass by climbing over the fence to enter the building without having an ID after you were told several times not to do it. And just to clarify things, paperwork from the city jail is not considered to be valid ID. What? Paperwork from the city? What what it appears it might be you and your review that is whack end of response oh paper can you imagine she's climbing over the fence and screaming i've got my id and it's just like that's your bail paper like i don't know what it is what the
Starting point is 00:38:20 paperwork would look like but yeah um, yikes. Yikes. Yikes. So. It's all about the context. Got to give the whole story. So this is a five star. This is a redemption from Trent. I'm still in closet, as they say, but I think I can come all the way out.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Response from owner. Oh, that's it? Oh, nice. I think. That's cool to hear. I think everyone should live their life happy and not be made to feel they have to hide. The reality is probably the majority of people around you are going to support you, but there's always going to be that one or two that have an issue. It is what it is. What I can tell you is that there are a lot of
Starting point is 00:38:59 folks out there that will surround you with love and help you navigate things. Never be afraid to ask for that help or guidance. Anytime you need to talk or would like to talk, ask for a member of our management team. They are a wealth of knowledge and will assist you in any manner that they can. Go forward in life and live it happy. Stop. I know.
Starting point is 00:39:17 What? I just love Trent being like, as they say, I'm still in here, but maybe it's time yeah i love it just such a positive holy and to clarify names are names are you know made up yes yes oh my goodness wow holy cow that was not what i expected i know finally a five-star review from me. That's actually uplifting. I did not expect that, but someone sent it in. Oh, yeah. It's not from me. You're right. It's from Becca.
Starting point is 00:39:50 It's from Becca. You're right. You're completely right. I'm just taking the credit. Okay. Now I've got a review sent in by Hannah, who sent in reviews of A Place in London, Bar Soho. And here is what
Starting point is 00:40:05 my favorite. There are a lot, but this one just spoke to me. Two star review by Peter. Ask for no ice in me whiskey and the only thing missing was the Titanic. No ice means no ice. End of review.
Starting point is 00:40:23 They felt like it was an iceberg in there. Ask for no ice. I got an iceberg. Got an iceberg. And we're like, oh, it's got everything but the Titanic because of all this ice. You know how often they probably say that? I don't know, but I loved it. I've never heard it.
Starting point is 00:40:37 So not enough. Not enough to spread as far as our circles. Exactly. Our very limited circles. I might have to start using that i might like ask for extra ice and then like get the drink and say what all it's missing is a titanic so like i asked for it but i'm gonna try to i want to make that joke what is the one dad does about lemons like he says oh extra lemon he does not joke about his lemons okay you're right he jokes about the
Starting point is 00:41:06 cracked pepper and he says i want the whole salad to be black with pepper and then the people are like okay no the thing i think you're thinking of is when they ask when he gets unsweet he gets iced tea and they say do you want sweetener he says no i'm sweet enough oh god why are there so many why are there so many examples let's stop talking about it it's it's it's a lot just wait i'm gonna start saying them all soon actually i already started saying that yeah actually it sounds like you're adopting them rather quickly and enthusiastically um i i'm out okay good i've got one more uh this is one more email this is from zane who actually uh helped out last week yeah with the uh pool reviews for me
Starting point is 00:41:45 and so i jumped at the chance to use zane's second email okay which included um cleveland gay bars so here we go a lot of ohio and him by the way a lot of ohio in pools and gay bars this week yeah yeah i also like looked at ohio first okay like in my own research so that probably didn't help with the ohio numbers okay this first one this is of a twist social club in cleveland this is a four-star review by sarah got kicked out of this bar twice but they still let me in thumbs up emoji end of review i brought my jail paperwork and climbed over the fence i kind of really like that they don't know they let me in but they let me in they're like like we it's like as if there's this mutual respect like yeah yeah you know like i might do something that'll get me kicked out but i know you'll let me in i took
Starting point is 00:42:34 out this one star but you know you know i mean you know i'm it's all about all the love all the love yeah and then here's one of cocktails cleveland this reminds me of our first ever beach too sandy episode or was it our second what it was one it was grocery store so i believe it was our first yeah yep this is cat clitter no this is cocktails cleveland um unless i'm misremembering or what that those reviews were about. But this is by Snoopy. Two stars. I fell there on the floor. The floor was wet.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Not good. I told both Kennys and Raymond. Not good. I'm angry. End of review. Both Kennys. Both Kennys. If you're telling both Kennys, you know.
Starting point is 00:43:19 The Kennys know. Yeah. If both Kennys know, something needs to be done. Also, that was literally the cat clitter review right and it was the same review in jungle gyms and like because how my wife fell and she was never allowed back again oh yeah she fell and then got banned for life or something um wow not good not good i'm angry you know when you fall and it's embarrassing and you just like you want to blame somebody else because you're embarrassed i fell in a bar very drunk but it wasn't my fault i wasn't okay i was pretty drunk but it was about my friends um my friend steven's bachelor party
Starting point is 00:44:00 in um scottsdale arizona scottsdale so we're in scottsdale and we're in a bar and i was like really really drunk and the bar or the table that we had was like raised off the ground and it was like a booth that was like a big step up to into the booth and i like was standing on the chair the the and i like tried to carefully drop down and i dropped down but there was salt on the ground from like margaritas or something like it was this story on the podcast never mind okay no no keep going and yeah i just like just slipped and just fell on my ass oxen are you said uh at the beginning of this telling of the story that it was not your fault so are you now saying it was well okay there was if there were it was no salt on the ground was that from you i could
Starting point is 00:44:45 have avoided it if i had acted not been standing on the furniture that's why when i left my one star review i at least admitted i will i know i broke the law i that i broke the law yeah oh my god um i don't i do recall that i don't think i ever mentioned that i was standing on the actual booth yeah i think you I think you did. Maybe not. Maybe just to me. Maybe. But now we're all piecing it together.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Someone can add it to your fan wiki page, whatever it's called. Does that exist? I hope not. I don't think so. But you know how they do those for different characters and stuff? The Beach 2 Sandy Wikia or whatever. I have one. What?
Starting point is 00:45:28 Oh, and that's what we drink? I think so. No, just for me. So maybe there is one for Beach 2 Sandy, but I'm not sure. But anyway, that's all I have. That's all I have. So thanks, Zane. It's time for a challenge.
Starting point is 00:45:44 The challenge, again, was from Martin. Places the reviewer saw on TV, movie, video games, et cetera. I'm going to give my emails first. OK. So I picked a couple emails that I liked. This first one is from Christine Sheher. I really thought you said Christine Sheher. That one actually did get me pretty good.
Starting point is 00:46:05 So here's what Christine has to say hello both of my parents have recently had health issues that have put them in the hospital I've been driving a lot to help them out Beach has kept me entertained the whole way and then says and when you announced the challenge for the next two episodes I immediately thought of the
Starting point is 00:46:22 Fremont Troll in Seattle from my favorite nostalgic movie 10 things i hate about you oh um and then so yeah this is a review of the fremont troll um on google which it's like a sculpture that's like a big wooden like wooden like stone sculpture underneath a bridge okay it's really creepy looking, too. Oh, no. It's not what you'd expect. No, it's not good.
Starting point is 00:46:49 It's like crawling at you. It's giant. So here's a review. Here's a review. This is by Belinda, five stars. I was so excited when I discovered this is the troll under the bridge. The same troll I saw in 10 Things I Hate About You.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I climbed all over it and laughed like a little kid. Such a cool idea. Parking is limited and strict in this area, but there's a nice view and a delicious coffee shop nearby to enjoy. Go check it out, preferably when other people are working, and it can be you and troll quality time. End of review. Also, that coffee shop serves six espresso shots in their iced coffee, and I had a quality time. End of review. Also, that coffee shop serves six espresso shots
Starting point is 00:47:25 in their iced coffee. And I had a great time. It sounds like a two-year-old is the activities of a toddler, but written by, like, I climbed all over it giggling. Like, it sounds like a child. Yeah, clearly written by an adult,
Starting point is 00:47:39 yet the content sounds like something a child would do, which is what makes it so fun. Yeah, I did like that. I mean, why not run around and giggle and climb on things? Exactly. Exactly. Inner child, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:50 Yeah. Yeah. And now that we're done, now that I've read the review, I will give a little more context about the bridge. So it's a mixed media colossal statue under the north end of the George Washington Memorial Bridge, or also known as the aurora bridge but it's clutching an actual volkswagen beetle as if it had just swiped the car from the roadway above the vehicle has a california license plate and originally the car held a time capsule
Starting point is 00:48:18 including a plaster bust of elvis presley which was stolen when the sculpture was vandalized. The troll is 18 feet high, weighs 13,000 pounds, made of steel, rebar, wire, and concrete. Yeah, and it was sculpted by four local artists, Steve Bedanus, Will Martin, Donna Walter, and Ross Whitehead. Why would you do that?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Why do people ruin everything nice in this world? Because people suck. People suck. But thank you, Christine, for that. That was fun. You're welcome. I'm glad you wrote that why do people ruin everything nice in this world because people suck people suck but thank you christine for that that was fun um i'm glad you wrote in and then here we've got an email from holly they them um who says howdy she for family my name is holly and i unironically call myself a non-binary hatchimal because of one of your earliest episodes slash YouTube videos. Yay!
Starting point is 00:49:06 I'm also one of the many people who went to the Tweeds Cafe, which is the real-life location of the Double R Diner from Twin Peaks. Aha! Thinking it would be a good experience. Can confirm that the staff is inattentive, the restaurant is dirty, and the food is overpriced. Oh. Here's a link for their Yelp page. dirty and the food is overpriced. Here's a link for their Yelp page. So here is a review that I want to read of Tweets Cafe in North Bend, Washington. Wow, I rarely write reviews,
Starting point is 00:49:33 but I'm quite frankly, I write. Not only did they not have a single table that could accommodate our group of six, but the ceiling seemed to be oozing rusty slime. I had just concluded a hike with my pals, and it wouldn't have taken much to satisfy our needs as we were absolutely ravenous. But after eating my below-average omelet with the dripping and greasy hash browns, I realized that I would have been better off if they dropped a turd on the plate. Because that way, I wouldn't have eaten anything and would not be full of all that bullshit. After being in a horrible mood while stuffing ourselves
Starting point is 00:50:05 with the piles of grease, it gets worse. Our friend, who only acts with strength, honor, discipline, was charged $26 for coffee, waffle, and bacon. Greed, comfort, gluttony is all I have to say to you guys at Tweeds. I would rather share a hotel
Starting point is 00:50:21 room with a demon serpent for the rest of eternity than spend another minute inside that establishment. Greed, comfort, gluttony. End of review. Oxenher, that got some weird Old Testament, like, vibes going on there. Yeah, right? I was so lost with it. It got really weird.
Starting point is 00:50:38 And I, like, Googled both phrases. Like, strength, honor, discipline, I think is, like, a military thing. I was going to say, that sounds military. And then, but when I Googled greed, comfort, gluttony, I was thinking maybe this is a reference to Twin Peaks or something. That would have been fun. But all I can find is like seven deadly sins. Like that's it.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Yeah. It started to get kind of dark and creepy. And then to say like a demonic entity. Yeah. Which also I was like, could that be also a thing from Twin Peaks? I'm not sure about any of this. I've watched Twin Peaks, but it's one of those things that I don't remember very well. And if someone told me there is a demonic serpent in it, I'd be like, yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:51:14 I believe you. I remember that. Yeah. Goodness gracious. Well, it sounds like your friend needs a lot of explaining before the incident i don't know why you need to kind of qualify this person's character by saying they're very upstanding citizen no they have oh i just realized i misread it strength doesn't even say strength it's a strength strength strength strength honor discipline um which It just seems like a strange thing to...
Starting point is 00:51:45 Therefore shouldn't pay a certain amount for coffee, waffle, bacon. Greed, comfort, and gluttony. Like, is comfort a bad thing? I don't understand. Yeah, comfort sounds like a fun time to me. Yeah, it's like, oh, good, you're comfortable. Ugh, they're being greedy and gluttonous. And as a gluttonous person, like, I'm down for that as well.
Starting point is 00:52:03 And honestly, it sounds like their friend's a little gluttonous too. i'm down for that as well and honestly it sounds like their friend's a little gluttonous too looks in her sorry did you not hear how strength he is he's so strong oh man you're right i'm so sorry so thank you to holly that was that was nice and now i have just some things that i came up with. So great. Here is my first one. This is a review of the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, Colorado. Sorry, I just got too excited. And you're familiar with this, right? Certainly.
Starting point is 00:52:37 This is the hotel that I believe Stephen King stayed at, which inspired the Overlook Hotel featured in his book, The Shining. Here is a review of the Stanley Hotel. One star. Don't be fooled. Booked this hotel on the premise that The Shining was filmed here. They play it up to the hilt. Red rum beer, the maze, etc.
Starting point is 00:53:02 The lobby, the bar, everything wasn't't looking the same because none of the film was filmed here stephen king apparently stayed here in a snowstorm and got the idea very disappointed can you imagine uh very disappointed the rooms are old and tiny and way overpriced a photo op at best stay Stay somewhere else. Estes Park is beautiful. End of review. What on earth? I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:53:37 I like, like it's, I had no, when I looked this place up, there was nothing that made me think, that they did at least, that made me think it was filmed there. Nothing. Nobody ever says that. That's not a thing. It's not something I've read like if you think that that is on you it's like it's called like the inspiration for the shining and he based a lot of which is true yeah and the decor everything like it's based on that hotel and also it was a book yeah people i think forget that part right like so then the movie was made
Starting point is 00:54:03 based on the book whatever i mean obviously there, obviously, there's no winning, I guess, with some of these people. But no. Goodness. But there are those like the. And the reason it inspired him is because it is haunted. And he did have like really scary experience there. It wasn't just like he was laying around by the pool and was like bored. It was like he actually had some creepy stuff happen that inspired The Shining.
Starting point is 00:54:24 I read. I don't know if it was of this one or the next place i'm gonna read but someone did say that the hotel like the story of the hotel was very impressive yeah just without the shining like inspiration episode 17 and that's where you drink check it out there it is yeah i'm pretty sure somewhere around there yeah because there's one i've listened to i guessed it's early early ones definitely uh so now i have a review of the timberline lodge do you know what this is timberline lodge it's rel it's related timberline i didn't know this until i know i'm not sure this is the hotel that they filmed the outside shots of the hotel of the of the film oh so they so what we've seen on the movie yeah so not the inside but the outside of the hotel like the ones which is freaking gorgeous yeah uh we're filmed at uh the timberline lodge which is in on timberline road in timberline Oregon. Love it. I guess it has its own city or something.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I don't know. Anyway, so it's in Oregon. Here is a two-star review. I'm going to skip a lot just because it's... There's a lot. I think that sound you just made is enough. When you made that weird under your breath sound, we were like, oh, we get it. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:55:43 We get it. Here we go. Tired and dumpy old lodge in a great location. Our family spent three nights here in August. First, the good. We had great access to beautiful hikes, summer skiing, and swimming. The staff were excellent, particularly the bartenders at the Blue Ox, the waitstaff at the Cascade Tavern, the hotel lobby staff, and the park service volunteers
Starting point is 00:56:05 who advised us on hiking trails. These positives could not outweigh the substandard rooms and the fact that the common areas were completely overrun with grubby, stinky Pacific Coast Trail through hikers and their backpacks. Whoa, ouch. Grubby. And I'm going to continue with that.
Starting point is 00:56:24 So they complain a little bit about the size of the rooms and how it wasn't up to snuff and then they say the through hikers are an overwhelming presence most are not staying at the lodge but are just passing through they come in starting at 6 a.m to help themselves to the free hotel coffee twice during our stay there was a long wait for fresh urns because the through hikers had quickly drained the first two that were put out. They hang around the hotel common areas most of the day. Most are wearing filthy clothes and look and smell as though they haven't washed in a week or more. Their backpacks, which they prop up against the walls, the fireplaces, the sofas are also dirty and smelly.
Starting point is 00:57:00 The hotel needs to get over itself with the grand history and the quaintness shtick yes it is somehow connected to the shining yes fdr inaugurated the hotel yes the wooden posts and beams are cool yes this is actually the white house okay yes is actually the taj mahal but that's so wild i don't know you can't live up to this person's standards no but it's 2018 and there are upgrades that are badly needed first build a new wing with modern amenities then close the existing hotel and renovate everything outside the center hexagon in two years you would have a stellar lodge that could live up to its historic reputation also needs to address the pervasive presence and smell of the pct through hike of the cockroaches
Starting point is 00:57:46 oh i mean hikers i mean really they're talking about these people as if they're an invasive species like a bug a termite my suggestion build hikers lodges nearby that serve their needs for what timberline charges per night guests shouldn't have moved tables in the middle of breakfast because the hikers next to them stink. End of review. What an ass. Yeah, and then I have an owner response, though. Thank you for taking the time to let us know where we can improve.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Your observations of some of the challenges we face are spot on. We welcome everyone to our lodge. This sometimes makes it difficult to meet all expectations. our lodge this sometimes makes it difficult to meet all expectations i will promise you we are looking at the best way to accommodate our valued pct visitors as well as all of our guests august is a busy time of year for the lodge the through hikers are getting near the end of their journey they have been on a quest to enjoy the best buffet breakfast on the trail this becomes a meeting place or a point of reconnection for them we will take your suggestions along with some of our solutions and continue to work towards pleasing all who come through our doors. Thank you again for taking the time to help us become a better place.
Starting point is 00:58:56 We appreciate your business. End of response. Well, that was way too kind. I love the way they talked about the hikers, though, to be very like, we love our hikers. We're so proud of them. Exactly. And they should be. I do kind of wish they were a little more like, not defensive is the wrong word, but
Starting point is 00:59:11 I wish they stood up for the hikers a little more. My next review is of Forks, Washington. Are you familiar? Twilight. Twilight. I've been to Forks. Unfortunately, too familiar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:22 But you haven't been. No. I have so so i'm not even close to as familiar i guess as some people in this room um here is a review this is a four-star review from trip advisor of the city of forks okay i'm very excited for this and this was from 2010 which makes it just all that better like that it's's really, it's so long. It was 11 years ago. Timely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:46 It's very, yes, yes. It's not like 2021 there. Cause I feel like it's probably not quite as popular. Anyway, here we go. Forks was great. Great little town for all the Twilight book fans. Remember, you have to keep in mind, this is the town from the books, not the movie.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Try the Bella Burger and Vampire Punch at the local burger eatery called sully burgers i believe the authentic bella truck from the movie is there as well most of the high school was demolished as the town is rebuilding a new one but the authentic sign still stands then we had a wonderful drive to la push the surfing looks like it can be awesome if we knew we would have brought the boards we stayed at the olympic suites which had one bedroom condos for 85 a night damn nice people live in this town and they all appreciate the fans who come as one lady said the town was almost dead before now twilight keeps it alive end of review wow 10 years later it was in its twilight years sorry that was so stupid that was really stupid i loved it though really dumb um but wow that's great yeah i like
Starting point is 01:00:52 a positive little i feel like twilight is 99.9 of the time not being referred to as something positive it's definitely one of those things where it's like you hear twilight you know like rolling your eyes because whether it's the fandom or the whatever it's like it's become less the fandom and more the like anti-fandom yeah yeah yeah that's more relevant yeah pop culturally speaking but you know what it fork seems like a lovely place i know it sounds like a cool time and i love that they kind of embraced it and have a bella burger whatever that is and right now between Stephanie Meyer and like JK Rowling those are the two I have in my head I'm like maybe maybe we should have been more yeah maybe we should give Steph a chance for a second you know what I mean and then Stephanie Myers is
Starting point is 01:01:37 probably like I don't know she seems nice I don't know anything nice I guess I guess be careful what you say because we said that about JK as well, so who knows? Anyway, here we go. This next one is of Mr. Car Wash. Take a guess. Any idea? Like, does anything ring a bell? It reminds me, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:57 The name is different. It's not, but it's a car wash. Yeah, it reminds me of, like, Breaking Bad. No! Good job. Where'd I come up with that? I guess there's a car wash in Breaking reminds me of like breaking bad no good job what did i come up with that i guess there's a car wash to break it bad it's the only thing it's a pretty major location okay i guess i mean i haven't actually watched in probably eight years but um but it is an actual running car wash in albuquerque okay which i should have i should have stopped there to wash my car on my way back i did go to albuquerque and drove by walter white's house because i was like i don't know i didn't stop and take a picture because i read so many things about people going and throwing like harassing and so they had to put a fence up because they
Starting point is 01:02:34 would throw a pizza on the roof just like a normal like little ranch house right yeah so um so yeah i didn't even stop because i didn't want to like like even to take a picture because it was in a neighborhood it felt weird anyway you just rolled that did just roll by and just take a look with your tinted windows so what i could have done is go to this business and giving them my money to like be like okay well i'd like the bella the bella bubble wash bella i'm like the the what's his name um walter wash the walter white walter white wash okay here we go walter white i heard it i heard it come out of my mouth oh no i regret it i regret it okay here we go um this is a review by danielle this is five stars had to get my car cleaned at walter white's car wash i got the exterior washer nine dollars and change you don't pay for the wash inside like they did on breaking
Starting point is 01:03:31 bad you pay the attendant that comes to the window a guy spent a good amount of time spraying all the bugs off the front of my car it is a drive-through wash and you sit in the car while it washes one nice thing that i have not seen at any exterior only car wash is that they towel dried my car as it exited. It was a quick drive, but I appreciated them getting most of the dripping water off my car.
Starting point is 01:03:52 After the wash, you can park and go inside. Another bonus is all the Breaking Bad autographed pictures that are displayed inside. They have a good amount of Breaking Bad stuff for sale.
Starting point is 01:04:01 By the way, they do have a tip box that one would not see unless they got out of their car. End of review this was like so multiple things first of all you know clearly like walter white breaking bad cool cool cool but the fact that they gave so much information for an anxious person like me when i go to a car wash i need to know i need to know how the process works where do i pay where do i tip like christine uh francisca and i just went to uh mike's car wash is that what it's called the like chain here i don't know if it's
Starting point is 01:04:29 a national thing but i had no idea how it worked and francisca was driving and i was thinking thank god she's driving because i'm nervous right now because and she did it fine because she's more well adjusted than the two of us like a normal person yeah and it was her first time going through a car wash are you serious yeah because she didn't even have her license yet it was before she got her license we were just driving around yeah um like for practice and she just drove up and then paid for whatever wash and then went through the whole thing and i was so nervous about it turns out it's just like a normal car wash but there's an attendant that you pay instead of a machine like at a gas station where it's like a
Starting point is 01:05:05 machine you drive through it or do they hand wash it they don't handle it so you drive it's like a machine i mean it like drags you through but there's an attendant and then you have to pay the attendant tell them what kind of wash you want which is to many people are like what's the difference between that and a machine but for me i'm like that's a big difference y'all know we like the walmart self-checkout okay exactly you know that about us exactly so i'm getting defensive anyway i was very nervous and so i very much appreciated this review because it had every detail like i know that i don't have to go inside i know oh the tipping thing especially was good i love it i love it and i will say that the business owner did respond very positively in thanking them for their review and that they greatly appreciate their business.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Do you, what do they sell? Like air fresheners that are shaped like Walter's head? Like, I don't know. What are, I wish I could participate in this gift shop they apparently have. Yeah, let me check really quick. There's literally a website called carwash.com that has an article the famous wash from the hit show breaking bad has been sold from octopus car wash to mr car wash according to the associated press and it's like a full article on carwash.com what is this website it sounds a lot like cruise
Starting point is 01:06:21 critic i'm not gonna lie it's all about like the car wash industry this is fascinating then there's an article the southwest car wash association is excited to welcome car wash professionals back to the first industry trade show since january 2020 that's it i don't know i can't find any information but i'm fascinated by that so sorry i i don't know i they people called it a breaking bad gift shop so So I assume they just have little key chains and things. I'm not sure. I'm very excited about that fact. Wow. Cool.
Starting point is 01:06:51 That was a good one. Yeah. Thank you. I try. Do you have any more? Yes, I have two more. Oh, great. So this next one is of Venice Canals Walkway.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Do you know what this is from? This is from the show that was on with Will arnett no but that's exactly what i was thinking when you brought the netflix show that you and alexis watched yeah alexis and i like binged that together i think that was like our only show together yeah we've never watched i feel like we disagreed probably on most tv on everything except this but for some reason that show just it just it made sense to us uh flaked flaked yep what the hell i guess that's just done with probably no that's a very good guess but uh it's actually grand theft auto what listen i should have clearly like always be just a tough
Starting point is 01:07:38 guess here's a four-star review i wanted to go here pretty badly, but was worried how the kids would react. They loved it. It was beautiful. And since we are gamers and play Grand Theft Auto, it was nice to see an area in the game. I highly recommend for a nice stroll. Plus, it isn't overcrowded. End of review. And then they had a cute picture on a bridge.
Starting point is 01:07:59 I was really hoping it would be like, it seems a lot different than the game. No. It's a lot less dangerous the game no um actually i realized i forgot the title which said exactly like gta so they were wait for real yeah that was their title at least they know how to separate fact from fiction a little bit because i feel like in the last episode i made some dumb comment about how you'd be scared of all the cars coming down that we're gonna swerve off the road but i guess some people have a more well-adjusted sense of reality they don't believe it or not they like recognize that video games are not real life and vice versa so i've played
Starting point is 01:08:32 too much sims i think you're getting there someday oh my gosh i remember that time you took the ladder out of the pool when blaze was swimming and he just like got out the other way and you're like what you're not supposed to get out he's like you do that? What were you trying to do? Wait, who was this that was in the pool? Blaze. Oh, yeah. It was right after that like crazy life insurance policy. It was weird timing, but. Well, it was that life insurance policy where I kept calling and saying Rosebud over and
Starting point is 01:08:57 over. And they were like, we don't know. This is like this is Liberty Mutual. Stop saying Rosebud on the phone. It didn't work quite as well as I had hoped. And're like well okay fine what's my simoleon i really wanted i really wanted that shower you know where you spin around and magical instead you basically got that for your cat i got a little robot instead fancy ass thing okay uh this is my final one this one here's a uh to describe the movie it's from. This is a sentence from Wikipedia.
Starting point is 01:09:26 In the 2003 film Elf, Santa Claus tells Buddy the Elf, second, there are like 30 Ray's pizzas. They all claim to be the original, but the real ones on 11th. Oh. So this is Ray's pizza on 11th in New York. What a nice little Easter egg. Yep. Isn't that cute? Yeah, because there's so many places in Elf that you could think about.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Yeah, and this is the one that Santa specifically mentioned. That's fun. This place actually has been mentioned in other forms of media as well, but this is from Miranda. It's a four-star review. We stopped in for two reasons. A quick bite, and because it's quoted in Elf,
Starting point is 01:10:02 the pizza was able to be made quickly, And it was tasty The staff on the other hand not so friendly They were yelling at people to move down The place was over packed and we couldn't move The dough was very nicely rolled out The sauce was good A little sweet
Starting point is 01:10:16 And the toppings were pretty nicely covered The buffalo wasn't too spicy The three meat had bacon sausage and pepperoni It was also good I would not deal with the crowd again if there was a line out the door. Be warned, all slices except cheese are a specialty slice, so four slices
Starting point is 01:10:32 cost us $24, which is a little outrageous for pizza. End of review. I read that whole thing mainly because they had a four-star review and then listed a bunch of things they didn't like, so I was like, okay, that's kind of nice that they gave it four stars still also i actually thought maybe it is four stars because when i was listening to them say the manager was kind of gruff and everything i was like that
Starting point is 01:10:53 actually kind of fits elf like the vibe you know what i mean like i feel like santa being like that's the real raise and it's like actually pretty you know kind of new york and gruff don't eat the bubble gum off the yeah yeah yeah i feel like it's like all about you know kind of new york and gruff don't eat the bubble gum off the yeah yeah yeah i feel like it's like all about the grumpy new yorkers like you run into the store congratulations on the best coffee in the world and no one has a sense of humor about it yeah i feel like like loosen up a little bit but i feel like that kind of fits the elf new york vibe that they were trying to go and apparently a lot of the people that Will Ferrell's character approached on the
Starting point is 01:11:28 street were just real people. Every time I watch it, that entertains me now because it's so much fun to watch the street scenes. And I think I could be wrong, but it could also be the person who was wearing like all red with a white beard who looked kind of
Starting point is 01:11:44 like Santa. he was like santa santa apparently supposedly i think that person was also not just paid to be there they just happened to be walking down the street like a red jumpsuit that's the third time today someone's done that to me yeah so uh that makes it all the more enjoyable so hey miranda got miranda got that new york uh i know you're trying to do a thing with the music that plays or something in the movie, but I'm choosing to ignore it. I know it's the first time you did it. Your mouth was like, really, it was like pursed lips,
Starting point is 01:12:17 and you're just like waiting for the chance to do it again as I kept talking. I was like, oh no, I got to keep going, talking about Santa. There's a moment there's a breath. She's going to go. Little did you know, I didn't wait for a pause. No, you did not. I just kept doing it. I just couldn't wait any longer.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Anyway. Okay. That was good. I love that. I didn't expect an elf reference. Yeah, no, neither did I. So fun. That was, I don't even, i think that was from when i was just
Starting point is 01:12:45 searching with certain quotes like i saw this in whatever about it from this yeah that was because the breaking bad one i specifically looked up breaking bad yeah um and then i think there's another one that i was i did very specific that's what i was talking about it was like just very fun to like like the stanley hotel that was me because i was like i know i can just go to that trip advisor page and find them instead of having to do special google searches so yeah no it was a blast so thank you uh to martin for suggesting that that was lots of fun and um yeah if you're listening to this we've already recorded the next uh i believe we've already recorded the next episodes so uh but we announced the theme and challenge for those already um i don't even know what they are now and we literally announced
Starting point is 01:13:32 them in our time in our timeline about an hour ago so that's our bad but if you do go back and we're new wait you know what we could do no i don't mean either no i'm just kidding what if we every time we released an episode that announces the themes we like put it on twitter and pin it or something for that week that's a good you know what i mean and that way you and i it's more for me since i never remember yep yep yep that makes sense then we could tweet it right away and then have it there so if anyone like needs to double check or yeah oh that's a good idea and by them i mean me um needs to double check okay so let's see that so our twitter is uh at beach to sandy so head there and uh at this point hopefully we've tweeted it and you'll be able to see the um tweet and i assume we'll do uh episode number and date that it'll come out and
Starting point is 01:14:22 the time we need reviews by we'll at least put something helpful hopefully uh we'll try fingers crossed it's a work in progress uh anyway thank you all so much for being here i love you all we will uh talk to you next week all right bye everybody bye Bye.

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