Beantown Podcast - Easter 2020 (Tim Muther Interview)(04122020 Beantown)

Episode Date: April 12, 2020

Join Quinn and special guest Tim Muther as we nostalgilize over corn detasseling, Easter Sunday, and telling tall tales in the corn

Hey, what's going on? It's Quinn David Furnace and this is my show Quinn David Furnace presents The Bean Town Podcast for Easter Sunday, Sunday April 12, 2020. What's going on? How are you? We're under quarantine and You know, we're hanging in there. It's this this week. I'm not gonna lie. I had some tough days for example Wednesday night while in general this week was was tough for me. I So I haven't talked about this much on the podcast, but I've been doing one meal a day under quarantine. And I, what I do is I cook up a big batch of whatever on Monday nights.

And so that's literally what I eat for the next like six days. What I made this week did not turn out well. It was kind of a beef barley kind of feeling thing with some quinoa in there, and just a ton of veggies. I won't bore you with the details. Suffice to say, it didn't come together. So I, it, you know, was kind of a rough week

with the baseline of that's all I was eating this week. But Wednesday night, I don't know what happened, but, you know, I had my normal tubal serving and was just feeling like really hungry still, and you know, very much like wanting to just binge and snack and go back and visit all the skeletons in my closet there. But got through it, had some tea, which I don't think I've had tea in a year, plus. But you know, there are easy days, not easy days, but good days and bad days in quarantine,

right? And today was made a little bit better. For one reason, specifically, well, yes, the whole Jesus rising from the dead thing. Got that. That's, you take that for granted. But I was able to, and we're gonna, you're gonna get the full rundown in just a few brief minutes, I promise. It get an interview with my former boss, in fact, really, my first ever boss besides Mom and Dad. former boss in fact really my first ever boss besides mom and dad

Mr. Tim Muthir chemistry teacher to the stars soccer coach wrestling coach football coach extraordinaire and what we spent a lot of time talking about today detasler Detasling master really. I mean this is a guy who came up through the system true blue blood and the father of Northern Illinois corn to tassling, if you want to call him that. We sat down with Tim over the phone

and just left the tape roll. And you'll notice there is no traditional start to our interview when I play it for you on a little bit here because I wasn't really sure how to how to do it you know we just start talking to the phone I hadn't talked to Tim over the phone in probably seven or eight years or so at this point. And so there was some catching up to do and quarantine talk and we just kind of naturally merged into detastling

and then we finished up. Tim had some Easter Sunday kind of reflections for us. And it's always kind of interesting when you talk to somebody who you spent a lot of time with in your life, but haven't talked to them in a lot in a long time. You're not sure, you know, you know, how has that person changed? What all do they remember about you? Are your references or your jokes going to, you know, work? So there were some of that kind of my own anxiety going into a conversation with Tim Muthir.

But I'm really proud to report, and I think you'll find this, or you'll hear this for yourself, when we roll that interview that it was just like, you know, to two guys throwing back a, you know, a six pack, a corona, you know, pun intended, and just, you know, catching up. So that's what you got. What the one thing I want to do before I just let that interview roll, and I'll jump back in at the end of it with our ad reads and just some final Easter Sunday thoughts. But well, two things. First, I shall let you know, listen to discretion and advise.

We're going to listen to the Bean Tom podcast. Number one, we will occasionally use some language here and there. Number two, the podcast is objectively terrible, although today is like awesome. This interview, I think, was a really good combination of humor and nostalgia, but also just a kind of overwhelm with the poignancy of a lot of Tim's comments and his words of advice. I always kind of viewed Tim Euthor as just a funny man, I always kind of viewed Tim Euthor as just a funny man,

but boy, he really brought his A-game, his chops in this interview, definitely shared some wisdom, some advice that I just never expected to hear him say. And I was really happy to have that. And you'll notice the best part about the interview is I literally talk for all of like five minutes in a 40 minute interview. So I'm gonna let you listen to that. Before I let that role though,

I do just wanna preface sort of my history, my relationship with Tim Yuther. So you know sort of where we're jumping in to when that interview starts. So, corn to testling. If you're not familiar, it is a classic summer job in Midwestern states, states where you got a lot of corn, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Kansas, what have you?

If you don't know what that actually means, corn to testling. Imagine a corn field in late summer, it's all green and stuff, but at the top you got those tan things sprouting out of the top. They're there for pollination purposes. It's how the plants reproduce. Those things are called tassels. Anyways, there are specific sort of methods and strategies to corn breeding and hybridization, to where you want to control certain rows of corn,

what you want them to pollinate, and then other ones you don't want to pollinate. I don't know all the science behind it. I'm not a botanist, but essentially what you do in corn to testling is you go through those corn fields in, you know, July before those tassels really sprout out and spread their seed. They're still wrapped up in green kind of leaves for the most part, and you pluck them out of each plant. Each plant has a

tassel. They all grow the same way and you go through every single plant in a field and take the tassel out. They're grown in rows, so you just everyone has a row, you walk down. You know, sometimes fields are as short as, you know, a tenth of a mile and then, you know, I've detastled fields and Tim probably detastled fields longer than this, that, you know, can be up to about a mile long. And you can imagine, you know, if your standard walking pace for a mile is, you know,

17 to 20 minutes, imagine having to, you know, pluck out a tassel from each plant. Essentially, it takes a very long time. It's a really grueling job. You get picked up by a bus anywhere around like 5 a.m. in the morning. I mean, you get to wake up earlier than that to get your crap together, pack your lunch, water, all that stuff, and then drive to the bus stop. You're usually historically in the fields by about 6am, 615.

If Gail was driving slow, Gail is the legendary bus driver who has since passed on, rest in peace. We had lots of stories about Gail. She was an interesting lady. But you're in those fields, you know, the shortest days could be, you know, four hours if you were lucky and just had a little bit to do. And then, you know, I don't recall personally ever working a field past like 3, 3, 3, or 4 in the afternoon, but you'll hear Tim mention on our interview that he recalls a day being in there till like dusk. So it's really grueling.

You get there in the morning and you're drenched from head to toe in corn due by about 9.30 AM. The sun's out. You are dying of thirst. There's corn rash, which is very real. You get your arms cut up. It's really uncomfortable and stings like hell. You get sunburned, really bad.

No matter what you do, it comes for you. It happens. And you're doing this as a young as 12 years old and making about $5 an hour. It's a wild phenomenon, and if anyone wants to hear more stories or tales about what it's actually like, email us at beantownpodcastyahoo.com.

Again, that's beantown, B-E-A-N-T-O-N podcast at yahoo.com. And I would be glad to share those with you because I could go for hours about cornytasling. I did it from the age of 12 through 18 every summer. You do it for about four weeks in the summer or so. Pretty much every day, usually you get one or two days off out of those four weeks. And we're not talking Monday through Friday.

We're talking seven days a week. Absolutely brutal. Just really physically Physically challenging certainly but the mental Just prisons that you place yourself in when you're you spend eight hours a day walking down cornfields Plucking tassels out of each plant brutal man absolutely scarring so but but Tim Tim did a really good job of kind of reigning that train of thought back and consistently through our, throughout our interview, which I'll share with you briefly here,

to sort of talk about, you know, or take this aspect of looking on the bright side of life, et cetera, which I really appreciate. So that's just a little introduction to what do you tassling is. I did it for I think seven years or so, rose through the ranks of, I remember day one. My squad leader was Michael Dobler. Doblers were a classic Lutheran family in Rockford. All the way up through, you know, I had my own bus full of kids by my last summer and I was making, you know, a lot more than $5 an hour, not much more, but a lot more.

So, yeah, that's all I wanted to share. I'm gonna pop in at the end once we finish up the interview there and I will read our ads for this week. And just briefly mention Easter Sunday. I know it's kind of interesting timing, right? Once we finish up the interview there and I will read our ads for this week and just briefly matching Easter Sunday. I know it's kind of interesting timing, right? Easter Sunday is usually pretty sacred on the Beentom podcast. I like to jump in and poke some fun mostly with the, you know, the Israelite Passover.

Really nothing to do with, you know, New Testament stuff, but I'll say a few words and, you know, it'll be a long episode, I apologize for that, but I think you'll find it interesting. So I'm gonna turn on the tape here, and you're gonna hear it's just like jump in mid-conversation, talking about quarantine and animals, and then we get to corn to tassling and we get to Easter Sunday and I'll see you at the end of the interview so without further ado This is my interview with my former boss probably the best boss ever had mr. Tim Muthar Sure All right now the critters are having their way.

Not much road kill because not many people driving. So yeah, I could imagine there they're taking over the earth. Oh yeah. I try to get out and get 10,000 steps a day and I try to get out of town just, you know, out in the country and so you're right. I mean, any coyote that ever thought about venture into a small town isn't going to be her ass now. we saw Fox the other morning that was right near the edge of town and so I heard stories of different critters, you know, kind of finding their way into places that they had. So yeah. It's been interesting. Yeah, I can imagine we

Chicago's kind of infamous Occasionally you get some coyotes that that come out and I haven't really heard Under quarantine if if it's really Increased the the sightings at all. I haven't seen any stories about it, but you occasionally get some some coyotes Roman the streets of Chicago, which is kind of interesting. I saw the first picture I saw of New York when they shut down was I guess it's the restaurants were closed. The rats couldn't find food scraps, you know, back in the dumpsters in the alley, so they're coming out on the street to find stuff to eat. Yeah, I was a baby bobcat was rolling around up towards the Illinois River up north of here. So I guess good for them. Maybe you could capture you could be the next Tiger King.

Yeah. Um, give me something to do. Well, yeah, we're going to be talking about all that and more. Thanks, thanks so much for, for being part of the podcast. I'm really excited. You're probably our most, the biggest celebrity we've ever had on the show, and it's been two and a half years. So this is pretty exciting for us. Well, we certainly get to find plenty of topics to talk about. Like we did when we were telling a friend the other day about

detasling and they'd never heard of it and of course you know there's you know the straightforward fundamentals of what she actually do and it doesn't sound so bad and then you realize that you're out there for seven or eight hours day after day with not a lot of breaks or days off and it really starts to get into your head and then you catch the corn fever and then it's all over. Well, and then you get, you get nail use rain and then it's chased out by lightning storms and then you know you get the sun beat down on the day after day and you're right it affects the attitude and I think there are a lot of parallels between that and what we're dealing with now. I mean you know I think you're good proof.

There's no question. Should I get a, should I go to college so that my degree gets me a job that I know it's connected to or should I just do what I want for college and figure out the job part later. And I've always felt just get that degree and you'll figure out what to do, where to go. And you know, I forgot, you just reminded me, I forgot you championed that Rose Shell crew out of like an extra one year. That was bad, man. I was started with like 35 kids

and I swear probably three or four of them had detastled before and those were the three or four that quit after the first day. And trying to get, make squad leaders out of 13 yearolds who've never walked more than two or three days, corn in their lives is that was a really challenging summer. They really started to drop like flies. Well, as you can someday, when you're really bored, you can do some background checks on that cruelist and see how many of them were involved with the juvenile detention system.

I don't think I ever got to see your crew. There was not much to see. It was it was pretty rough. Or when I did it was down the just a sniffle of kid. And what was your bus drivers name, do you remember? I don't even remember. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't Gale or TR-Thur. It was somebody else. I don't know who it was. What's that?

Was this name Tom? It might have been. I mean, that rings a very faint bell, I'm not sure. Well, someday we'll have to put up the mountain rush more of detests and bus drivers that we have to deal with. Yeah, boy, they were characters. Rest in peace, Gale. What a lady.

I think you had a stop, too, one day that a woman maybe that I met Yeah, I don't I don't even remember I remember there being a year when the the story I'm not sure if it was true I think you told us that gale into Vegas to gamble for a week and we had a sub at one point But yeah, it's hard to keep track year after year of everything. Maybe it was a thing of Yale, hard and dirty, you have to use it. Unroach, yeah. And that was when I met the woman that was plus driving.

She was appalled that somebody went to the middle over by the wood. Because that was just so bad. Well, ma'am, I imagine he had to go and it went away from the turl it. And I don't think it's going to harm the field in too bad a matter. So. You mentioned Billy Hartenberger reminds me of his cousin,

Kevin, who was famous for peeing in the fields. And I also remember a couple of days where it was raining real bad. I think Kevin Hartenberger let us all in some singing of traditional African-American spirituals in the corn. It was pretty really bonded over that.

Well, I do remember having to get the human life came to get out of the mud, stuck in the mud like quicksand, and shoes got sucked right off of this date, and barely got them out. One of my favorite stories. That was a really bad day. I think we were at Hughes High Bridge or something, and it was real muddy.

Yeah, it was so bad. So did I open the experience before kids like you? I mean, now you go in, you'll never get a conference, whatever, where you've got to think that you could stop mud enough, then you go in, you'll never get conference, whatever, where you got to think a mod of nothing, you're like, I actually have a little experience in this area. And you certainly learn about how to treat people and deal with people and how to handle crises without

you know, having a Witcher 2. It's true. It's not much else you can do. It's just you and the corn. That's it. Day after day. Yeah. That's true. I mean, it's the, you know, the three big conflicts, the man versus man, the man versus the elements and man versus himself. Usually all by 10 o'clock, great. Oh, man. All your listeners can go to any detest and website and read the reviews from kids who just job like they are getting crucified and this was the most horrible job experience in the

world. And it's pretty good to experience to have as a 12-year-old, especially, I remember that the hardest days were when we would do the field corn, which can be so tall. And you know, when you're 12 years old and four foot five and that corn is you know pushing five and six feet tall. That's pretty tough on the the shoulders to get those tassels out. Oh yeah. Well and that's first thing you realize and then that's attached to your back which is attached to your legs which is attached to your feet so it becomes complete physical misery.

And then there's that short line from your nervous system in your hands, to your brain. And, you know, looking at this, there is no light at the end of the temporal visual experience. And your brain starts running into the ground before your body. So it's very, very mentally just taxing and tolling and you know there are different stages too because it's you know even though you know start of the day you get into the corn at 6 a.m. and you're fresh and you're resting you're feeling good but it's not a fun sensation to be soaked from head to toe and corn do at

at 6 a.m. that's a that's a tough spot to find yourself in. been. Are you still there? You're cutting out. Still got you? Yeah. All right, there you go. pruny hands and pruny fingers and your feet are soaked all the way up here. You're waste. And then you know, know full well that you're not going to be wet the rest of the day by 1 o'clock, you'll be like desert dry. Yep. Yeah, it can be very tough on you. I actually, I want to pick up this pointer here because I'm going to ask you a question that I've always

kind of want to know the answer to, and I really don't know the background. But just your involvement with corn to tassling in general. How on earth did that ever become your summer gig? What's the history on that? Here's a story. You know, when I was in college in Nebraska, there was a professor at the university who organized the task and proofs.

And so kids would come out for three weeks in the summer. And one of the guys that worked there as a supervisor was my college roommate one year. And he actually started, he was a teacher as well. His first year, he started in New York City. You met Henry, a hamming house, Mr. Guy, I'm talking about. Oh, sure. Yeah. As a file as a teacher, just to tell me you would go over to the Metz games like Seventh inning, they let them in for free and

eat the surf after the fifth inning and he just sitting great papers up there. He cited the big city and then all teach it wasn't for him and went into full-time detest, and worked. I want to say that he started maybe in Iowa and then kind of worked in the Wisconsin Illinois territory for that same company and then He had been living and working down around Champaign and had organized crews in that area.

And they have a lot of contacts and a guy that, well, it was a guy at Twin Gardens at Harvard who said, yeah, we're looking to get this new task and you're tasking done for this seed corn we're making for sweet corn. And that's Henry, knew I lived in Rockford and said, hey, how would you like this job? As a crew leader at that point, that was the only grower. He didn't have many acres.

So, you know, the crew I ran was, I was in my area. The next closest crew would have been South of Rochelle and in Wisconsin. Actually, they had some work in the north of Lake Geneva, at each Troy, if you know what that is, and they worked out towards Monroe as well. But I was still only, you know, brewing that area, and it would just work for him.

So that's where it started. I became a crew leader. And, I mean, my training for that was, I hadn't been canceled for probably 15 years. So I went out with the crew in Wisconsin for a day and it was kind of like the experience you had in in Rochelle Poor lady that was leading the crew. I mean it was day one and they were cropping like flies and after that

After that one day it might, this might not be so easy. And then I had no idea that they really wanted me to do the recruiting. And I had passed out pamphlets at our school. And so there was a area manager, which I eventually took the same kind of a position. Anyway, she was actually a student at Vanderbilt University trying to get a degree in management of entertainers, like an agent for Boxcar willier John Priner, you know, Miranda Lambert.

She said, well you know we're starting next week. I go, yeah, well I'm ready, you know, how many you got? I said, well, the list I got has like nine people or 13 whatever it was that wasn't many shows well that's not good enough like oh okay well yeah so what are you gonna do about it I'm like yeah I have no clue. You tell me. She told me to go to Job Court. It'll count. Now, I don't know if you've ever been to one of them. State funded job site, you know, unemployment office kind of things.

But yeah, it wasn't going to be a good idea I didn't think. So the first year we had 90 acres or so to do I think and with nine kids for those of people in the audience to see how I'm possible that is, could you remember what we were told how much detasting, how many acres of detaster could handle on a day? I don't remember. Well, they always told me a good detaster could do an acre a day. So, you know, that was going to be a stretch for nine new kids plus me. And so she knew, and that was for the detastling where a machine comes through first.

As you look to the gardens, because the corn corn short, we pull every single tassel. We didn't have a machine that came through first and clipped off 50% 70% or whatever. So the grower met us out there, cliffingers all who still works with them. And he looked at it, after we got off the bus. He looked at the bus that goes to sat it. Like, yeah. And then pretty soon they were all on their phones trying to get us another crew. And that first year, I mean, we worked till 3, 3, 4, 3, 5, 30. I remember one night it was 6, 30. Oh my gosh.

And we're turning around to do another row. And the grower, and they never tell you this, says, you guys need to go home. And so we did only because he made us, but we brought in a crew from the Munro air. I don't even know where else. And they absolutely hated it because all the corn they went through, two thirds of the tassels were gone because of that machine that holds them out, had done it, if they'd been to the field before they got there. And their corn was all pretty medium height

and a lot less strain. And then we were bending over, you know, sometimes, you did straddle the row, or we even had kids down on their knees because it was so short that year and those kids hated coming back to you know if they ever said it worked you know I'm gonna make this do that sweet corn again aren't you so we somehow made it through so that's all I got started and it was it wasn't as, we picked up kids as you go. I don't know why I've been able to suck our kids into,

to do the castling after we lose kids, but I was always able to do that. I've done that with my coaching too. Most people just write people off and say, forget it. You know, I would have the office give me the extra applications because we'd fill the bus and say, we don't have any more room to keep on the waiting list and they'd say, do you want all these? I go, yeah, what do you want them for? Because we're going to go through them all because not many kids can sit there day after day and end over, you know, make the effort of getting

out of bed every day. It was quite an interesting experience. The only thing that was nice about that first season was the check at the end. That was pretty sweet. And I remember how much it was, but I'm like, oh, yeah, I don't feel as bad about the misery as I did. Before I got to check. Yep. Yep.

Yeah, I think my first summer, I was maybe making something around like six an hour. I think something around there. It was, when you're 12, it seems pretty good. Now when I'm in my mid 20s with a salary job, it sounds like some sort of illegal child labor ring or something. Oh, remember I told you that one day

went up to Wisconsin, so they sent me a check for it. And you know, this was not the company that you worked for, the company that Henry had worked for before. And in Wisconsin, there were two minimum wages at the time. I want to say, five, fifteen was minimum wage in Wisconsin, but there was, to help farmers out, you know, a kid bailed hay for you or something because the farmers couldn't afford to labor very well. There was an agricultural minimum wage which was 4.95 an hour. So here I am an adult. I have experience. I just worked as crew just, you know,

to get a day's work in so that I could familiarize myself. As it turns out that one day, you probably know that there's some mint that's grow up around late Geneva and Jamesville, and they were harvesting that mint. On that harvest mint, they put it into a vat and cook it to get the oil out. It's an area that I believe the riglies started growing mint and their for their gum back in the day. go by one of those kits, okay, where they're boiling, it's really thick, oily smell that is nasty, like warm, did you ever want to smell in your life. And so as we come over to Hill, here comes the wind blowing that mint at us and people

almost barved because it was so bad. And I can remember covering my mouth, still like we have to now with the masks. And I thought, well, geez, I was easily the best worker there, right? Well, the way they work is you get paid by the acre and if you wind up burning up a lot of man hours because they don't pull their weight, then everybody's wage drops. So if the money wasn't there, then everybody just kept paying minimal wage whether you were good or weren't so good. ways whether you are good or you weren't so good. So for that day, I made 4.95 aggregate cultural minimum wage like couch. And then subsequently, how do I work it in Wisconsin?

I said, Henry, please tell me we're not gonna pull this on these people. And we didn't, we never played a aggregate cultural minimum like it. And we didn't, we never played a bigger cultural minimal image. But, you know, you learn a lot of things like making sausage. Something you don't know. Yep. I think agricultural minimum wage could be the name of the all-detasling jazz band or something.

That would be hot. Well, you know, that was a, you know, what made it valuable was you could have fun despite the misery. I mean, like you said, you could start a singing group. You know, I was just thinking of some actor that has a movie out recently. I don't remember who it was, Matthew McConaughey or something. But do you remember playing six degrees to Kevin Bacon? Sure. of course. I mean, I'd go through the fields and I'm like, geez, what's wrong with this crew? Nobody's opening their mouth. Yeah. Are they going to...

I don't know, you're what? Well, they were all playing six degrees to Kevin Bacon, and they were all concentrating like, oh gosh, here we go. We went from Matthew McConaughey to a same movie that, you know, Val Kilmer was it? Okay, who would, who would be, was Val Kilmer in that we could think of that's going to get closer to Kevin. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. You do a lot of things in the corn to try to keep

yourself sane. I remember playing 20 questions here and there. And I think Tom Rieth had some Shakespeare memorized or something that he entertained us with. And you just, you let, you let Michael, people at the time he were done. Yeah. You remember a kid named, he was a Rodford Christian student, maybe his name was Scott. You remember Kyle Lindeen?

Of course. Okay, I think he would have been one of my first older kids that came back for a couple of years that was friends with Kyle. They got Kyle involved. Anyway, I don't know if you were involved. You remember, Kurt, a black girl by the name of McQueen or, I don't think I remember that. Okay, well, so we were getting towards the end of our trail in the season and we had a couple of empty days and I told Henry and he said, well you guys got some time, I could really use the

crew in another place and it was kind of my was like gum by Dixon maybe and South of Rochelle was to think Dixon or something. Anyway so it's a come down here for days. So I took, you know, what were my best kids and tried to get them some more hours. And I knew if I go out of my area, if I don't bring good kids, they kind of look at you like, you know, anyway, with a jealous eye or whatever, it was a little more scrutinizing. But the difference is that it was that field colon had a long rose and we weren't just doing long rose. We're really struggling to keep together, even just ten of us or whatever. And again, it's hot, dry, dusty, and that corn was dry, and when the cornstried cuts your hands, and we were ready for that.

And like, how do I keep them together? So I started telling them a story. Oh my gosh, I can't remember what it was, but oh, I know it was. I used some characters from the Harvard crew. I can't remember the names now, but there was one kid that he was the bad penny that kept turning back up every year. I mean, you were horrible last year. Why would you want to go through this mystery again? It turned out that it was kind of like special later some time on it all. But anyway, his mom baked me to take him for another year. So I did, but anyway, I made up a story about that bid.

And I don't know what kind of nonsense. But it was a pretty believable tale. And there was some ob-and-danger and mystery. And I was in the story. And I had to do some things that it turns out it was believable enough that they thought the story was true and it was total BS which I'm sure you could hardly believe that that kind of stuff came out of my mouth but I mean we're talking like a two-hour story and I'm trying to remember who was there.

Kyle might have been there. But maybe a couple of them towards the end, you know, but one of them just stopped. Wait a second. It's a story of a two-hour. No, I totally made it up. And then I remember that McQueen or whatever name was, and another kid, the homeless or mute

are unbelievable. Oh, God. They don't lose that too. Oh, God. And like, what did you tell us? I said, so that you didn't think about how long these roles were. And I'll bet this car was cut car was cutting you off that's why Just what do you call it?

Diversionary tactics. Yeah Like a clinically trained psychologist over there. Oh Yeah, well one time I made up a and there was a kid over in Wisconsin that would wear Well, you know, kids would have all kinds of hats. Sure. And, uh, those scarves and you, handkerchiefs around their neck and whatever you could do to keep yourself from getting destroyed, you know.

So the kid always wore a handkerchief around his neck while I of them red, white, you know, like all the cowboys were. And he lived out by a town named Clarnal. He heard a Clarnal. I haven't. No, neither's anybody else, but it's by Monroe. And so I start to make no stories about the Clarnal kid. He was a train robber. So I mean that became quite popular. So a lot of a lot of tall tales in the corn. Yeah well like you said, I mean

you've got to come up with something to divert yourself. And I feel bad for people who don't have, to some extent, miserable experiences to look back on to say, you know, there's hope. It's not something to have to be this add, or maybe it isn't as bad as you think it is, stuff like that. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's true. Both eptox and see the light at the end of the tunnel. Yeah, that's a good perspective to take.

I tell you what, next time you need a tall tale like that, you could just say, talk about anything that Kine and Obi actually did in real life and the Udhaston good stories there. True that or the legend that is the in hogshead. I was going to ask you about that. Why do you think he never made it to the MLS? Oh wait a second, wait a second. Let me start the theme music for his television special. theme music for his television special. I don't know. I mean, it'd be interesting to find out what he's doing. Like, is he in a, uh, I don't know, what was your guess, be? Maybe like a prison gang or something.

Well, I was going to say like he's probably got a country music band that plays gigs on a weekend. So, you know, some of those country west bars. I think it's called agricultural minimum wage. AMW for short. Yeah, you got to go like them on SoundCloud and Napster. Well, the thing of it is, I always felt like those kids enriched me a little bit. I learned more about life through them.

It was a learning experience for me to be in charge of their crews and, you know, to help them through the crises of, I hate my boss and this job sucks, and I can't believe that bus driver sits around on flies and gets paid more than me and all the stuff that you learned that you know, are growing up and realizing it's not shitting grow out there. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's, it was a wild experience and to go back, I think I did maybe seven or eight summers,

something like that. And yeah, it's a lot, but you're right. I think I learned a lot of things when I was 13 and 14 years old that other people don't get to learn until college or their first job out of college. So for all the misery and just absolute torment that job provided in an awful paycheck. There are plenty of life lessons along the way and I can tell you personally that your

name holds very much like a revered larger than life just like idea or concept and not only my head but I think a lot of other people's heads as well. You are an awesome boss to have. Well thank you. It's very kind of you to say that. I've done, he's always wanted to know if you were coming like every day because he thought you were like the best he tests or ever even better than Tom right. I'm shocked that you say that, because Tom, he was always or Tim, whatever his name was, he was always scared

to living crap out of me. Well, somebody's got to do it, I guess. I was always worried he was going to chew us out or because he would more often than not. But yeah, I tried to just not make eye contact and just go back to my role. That was always my strategy. Yeah, well, this is what I always

said about these guys that only fields and on these companies. They can be nice, they can be mean, it doesn't matter. Will you get below a certain standard that they're expecting? They're not your friend anymore. They don't expect to be so. He just got off, you know, he would get that out right in front, but the truth is they're all the same at some point. But you think about standards, I mean, how important is that for us get that right in front, but the truth is they're all the same at some point. But you think about standards. I mean, how important is that for us in today's world, right?

I mean, yeah, the shelves should have toilet paper on them. Why don't they have toilet paper on them? Well, here's the truth, guys. The shelves don't have toilet paper on it. Now, what are you going to do? You know, you want to get something done on your tooth or something because, you know, you're looking here whatever, you're at the back of the line now because we've got other priorities. How are you going to deal with that? And then what do you do when no one listens to your whiny complaint?

You know, imagine being in this virus situation and living and say Ecuador or something. Or do you think that hospitals, right? Like, forget about rooms that would be equipped with ventilators and that. Let's just talk about hospitals to start you know. Yeah yeah. Yeah I don't know is it? That was one thing I remember about the test liners. I'd say I always have coolers say so and so sucks canal water. So and so don't all so and so I have to go to the bathroom three time on a fire and I'd always say well who's there replacement do you have the replacement because if you don't, it's easier to do with one you've got and train

them up than it is to find a new one who might just quit after it anyway. But I think that's a big, you know, a big thing. When you're on a team, you know, as good as Hogg said was, it helped him with his team that Ian had had to deal with people that didn't have the same expectations, didn't have the rules. That's why the Rock for Luther and soccer program was so good. And as well as that rock for Christian, I mean, you guys had those experiences that the leadership is key, you know. Sure. Sure. Those experiences, you get leadership without experience. And then dealing with co-workers that suck, has that ever happened to you

since the Tesla ended? Have you ever had to work with a co coworker that maybe is not meeting the standards. Every time I look in the mirror. Yeah, right. Or a boss that you can't stand, you've never had one of those since detesting, right? I didn't have one of those during the taskling either. Pretty much your route for quiz. Yeah. You got a lot of good sage advice over there. You ever thought of putting it into a

book or something? You know, I have, um, uh, sitting here, this last, well, we, we opted on on March 16th of school and so somebody had mentioned to me before school ended that probably spend more clock hours with individual students in a day than any student any teacher on our staff and our staffs got a bunch of hard work and conscientious people who really invest in kids.

But I didn't argue with them. I do turn into a lot of people. And so I just, I thought about it, but I, you know, life keeps you pretty occupied. But when that shutdown happened, frankly, I felt like that guy was the, you know, the manual transmission that couldn't quite find the gear or get slowing down in life. Now what do I do? And so it's been a transition, but someday I wouldn't mind something together, you know, but there's nothing else

to be entertaining. I have a lot of pretty crazy experiences in my life. Oh, you absolutely do. I would buy the first copy. I would read that right away. I don't. Talk to you, my friend. Yeah, I don't, I don't want to keep you, you know, any longer.

I appreciate you coming on. I do have one last request. Tomorrow is Easter Sunday, and I'm wondering if you have any spiritual words of guidance for the audience members out there. spiritual words of guidance for the audience members out there. Well, the first one that comes along mind is the idea that it's to show past. I have spent some time on the last few days contemplating

all the different parts of the trauma of Jesus unfolding where he kind of got told and placed in a position where he's kind of absolutely no win for him. And I guess I admire that whole process. But it also inspires me to know that his work was not in vain. And I think, you know, a lot of people with Scripture, we get to, when we're younger, it's about, you know, Jesus died for sins and that's about as deep as we get, but there's so many hurtfuls to life with scripture. You know, thinking what Jesus went through, again, like the detasting experience, the boss was off to get him the establishment. He got, he did the right thing and that told that wasn't good or blah, blah, blah. And so I think it's good for us to have

that understanding and patience. I feel like that's one thing our faith gives us an understanding of perspective and that we don't have to get all mad that you know, so and so, or whatever, it doesn't start social distancing soon enough, or the guy on the other side that says, well, you're going to ruin the economy, you better get back to where we were, or we wait for us as ridiculous, blah, blah.

But I think having a problem with the storm is an important thing. And if you look at how Jesus dealt with a very, very difficult situation, it's a great example for us. And he's his So he is risen. In another seven hours here, don't get too far ahead of yourself. Right, and when you get to heaven, don't drink the water. And I did appreciate, I did note the passing of one of my favorite singer songwriters of all time, John Prime. Yes. I've passed away this last week and he had his written a song just in the last couple

of years called, Well, I get to heaven. It's kind of a classic, I think. And you know, I feel like that kind of boys, your spirits, the thing that you got a future in the whole stuff. Sure. Sure. Mr. Prime, you've been spending many. Yeah. Thank you so much for the words and for coming on and joking around and talking about the

taskling and just your time today, really appreciate it. Yeah, well maybe we can get together and pick a different topic or that. Sure, yeah, we would love to have you back any time and hey if you ever come up to Chicago, let's get a slice of deep dish and next time I'm down in Edwardsville I'm gonna shoot you a message and and we can go Bet on the horse race or something I mean, let's see how the numbers come out on the podcast see how many people before we commit to another one.

I don't want to give you another lemon for an hour. We've got nowhere to go but up. I don't know, but I need to why go to Chicago. I need somebody to take me to some of this to blues brothers authentic land workplaces before they're all gone. I don't know. It might be something we could do as a broadcaster, that sounds pretty good. I'll do some research. I'll find all the secret spots.

May we get to meet you at the show? We had prison. All right. All right. thanks so much. All right, bye. Bye. And we are back. Welcome back to the north side of Chicago. And thank you a million times over to Tim for joining us today. Really, really poignant, surprisingly poignant, not to take anything away from Tim,

not to say that he didn't have it in him or I wasn't expecting him to kind of have that level of clarity and insight. But I just think it really was delightful to have. And we spent a lot of time on this show, goofing around and all that fun stuff. And, you know, I think that's what a lot of people expect week in and week out on the bean-tongued podcast. But occasionally, it can be really nice to have a show like this as well. So thank you very much to Tim and not kidding. We are gonna get him back on this show. I you know if this show goes on for another

five, ten years, which God gonna have to get a lot more content. I can assure you Tim will be back on and We will go find all the blues brothers locations including the Joliet prison where I believe The canfields are located Inside joke for any form of detestlers listening, although I will have to share this with some of my old detestling buddies and apologies for testing buddies. And apologies for, you know, specific names that we listed in the interview, not for private series,

but just, you know, you don't know who Tom Reeth is, you don't know who Martin Dobler is, you know, but you don't know who Gail is or T. Arthur. But that's okay, because it's fun to have anyways. So let's read some ads here here and then we'll finish it up with a little Easter Sunday message, which I haven't prepared. And I'll leave it there.

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that sermon was an amalgamation of a lot of Christian talk radio that I had been listening to, I think at the time I had been spending some time in Kansas City for sure and Memphis. I think at one point and maybe even like Mississippi or something. But if you're interested, go check out that Easter sermon podcast or 2019, it's fun. And the only reason I plug it now, plugging my own material, is because there is some tongue-in-cheek commentary kind of laced here and there in the sermon that I think it's like 35 minutes or something, but at the end of the day, I actually think it works really well, like legit, as a Christian Easter Sunday sermon. And, you know, I think I could, you know, send that to a radio, a Christian radio show in Birmingham, Alabama or something, and I, I think they would find it to be quite

tasteful. So here I am tooting my own horn, plugging my own material, but I will listen to it tomorrow. It's fun. It was my first ever time writing a sermon. I don't have any training or experience in that, but I think it came out very well. So check that out if you're looking for some additional words of wisdom guidance. Hey, you know what, it's Easter Sunday. Have some candy, have a chocolate bunny. Watch the Veggie Tails, Rad Check, Me Shack, and a Bed and a Go episode of the three tenors,

I think it's called something like that, where they sing the chocolate bunny song. Oh, man, one of my favorites. Go into the fiery furnace and hey, I won't spoil it for you, but I sure love some chocolate bunnies, man. I was at the grocery store a couple hours ago getting some gatorade and turkey to refuel from my runner in 12 miles this morning. I felt great. And boy, I was, I tell you what, man, I was tempted. In the checkout line, they had like a Reese's bunny, chocolate bunny for like two bucks.

And you know, like large chocolate bunny was a steal. I almost went for it. Plus, I, you know, I was thinking about this yesterday. It's like, you know, been really hardcore on my diet, really strict like, I would, you know, it'd be nice to splurge a little bit, have some candy. Maybe we'll see, I'll go back tomorrow. We'll see, I'll report back, because I know you all

are on the edge of your seat. But, you know what, have some chocolate. Have some jelly beans, you know, do it. And if you're searching for Easter eggs tomorrow or an Easter basket or you're having some, hey, I'm, you know, have fun. Good luck whether you're in person or virtual, you know, whatever your situation is. Happy Easter and take some time to reflect. Listen to a bean town sermon and, you know, have some fun.

Last thing here, I am in the middle of the last chapter of the Scott Ferrell audiobook. I physically will finish it this week. The tall task then is twofold. One, figure out how I want to upload slash distribute it because things are kind of wonky with file sizes and limits and yadi yadi yadi, boring tech stuff that I have to figure it for myself to writing my critical review of it is going to take some time because I I have all the thoughts in my head, but I want to get it right. Well, that's not entirely true. I don't write that much when it's not about law school admissions events. So it's going to take me some time to do that.

So the overall kind of project as a whole will not be ready by this time next week. But the physical recording of the audiobook will be, which is very exciting, because it has taken me a lot of time to do. OK, I'm going to queue up some Tishamanga blues. And I think you all, if you made it as far, I thank you for listening.

And that's, that's really what I got for you. So everyone, stay safe, you know, get through, get through another week, quarantine, you got this, whatever you got to do, the state mentally healthy, whether, you know, quarantine, you got this, whatever you got to do, the state mentally healthy, whether it's splurging on chocolate bunnies or going for long runs, or catching up with your old boss, who you haven't talked to in seven years, whatever you got to do, make it happen, just be happy, be healthy, like honey nut Cheerios. So for all of us here at Bintown Podcast, productions,

my name is Quinn David Fernes. Thank you for listening. Happy Easter 2020, and we will check in on you next week. I'm just going to be a little bit more. I'm just going to be a little bit more. I'm just going to be a little bit more. nd nd you