Beantown Podcast - Quinn Goes to the Movies (The Lighthouse; Doctor Sleep) 11172019 Beantown

Episode Date: November 17, 2019

Quinn comes to you LIVE from the north side of Chicago to discuss the films 'The Lighthouse' and 'Doctor Sleep' whilst also discussing potentially making an audiobook, getting jittery on coffee, and why on earth do we need 2 Samuels, Kings, and Chronicles? #FriendsofthePodcast #Beantown #Quinn

Hey, what's going on? It's Quinn, David Furnace, and this is my podcast. Quinn, David Furnace presents the bean town podcast for Sunday November 17th, 2019, what's happening? How are you? What's going on? Nice little Sunday here in Chicago, Chicago, back off from off the road and I'm back for good for like three weeks here. I was actually thinking about this. I got I'm home this weekend. I was on the East Coast in Beentown this weekend. Baltimore, Maryland went back to where it all began and actually went by the old apartment. I thought about snapping a pic for the podcast, but my phone was low on

juice and also I didn't even think about it when I walked past so I didn't. But went to some of the old stomping grounds, you'll water and holes and other places and got some breakfast, saw some co-workers, saw some old friends, some old lovers, saw on an online dating app, right? Because I get there and you know, swipe, swipe, swipe. And saw an old flame who is now currently single. And what a loser checkmate, check please. I love saying checkmate or check please. Check is just a fun word to say. And one of these days I might date a check, who knows.

But something to keep in mind for the future. Got back from Beentown and back in Chicago, and I'll be here all week, which is true. I got to work next week, and then we can't, after that's Thanksgiving. And then we can after that, I'll probably be here, but then after that coming up, and probably we'll be doing a podcast with them.

It's been way too long since we had our friends, Ryan and Kristen, on the podcast. We're gonna bring them on, hopefully, and gonna have a good time. Haven't done a show with them in a while. It's been a cold streak here. And then after that, it's the holidays. Christmas time.

So we'll have at least one maybe two podcasts live from the West Coast. And we'll probably get some friends and family on as well. And around that time is when I would expect to drop our Christmas bean town unplugged special mom goes to prison. And and indeed my mom Jane did go to prison. She's doing a lot better now though so that's good but I think we're going to have a really interesting fascinating dialogue slash discussion around that. So what are we talking about today? Well the first thing we should always talk about is that listen to discretion is advised

when you're listening to bean town podcasts. Number one, we'll occasionally use some less than desirable language. And number two, this podcast is objectively terrible and has been for Ohio. This is episode or something like 98 or something in the original Beanentown Weekly series with specials where over 100 I think I've talked about

this on the last school of podcasts. I think it's in two weeks maybe I gotta go back and look at our records when we hit episode number 100 so we'll have something a little bit special for that. But that is pretty crazy, right? Started the podcast, second week of January in 2018 and we are almost two full years completely into it and something else that you all as listeners might love or

you might hate but I'm proud of it regardless I've never missed a week on the podcast and sickness and in health for richer and for poor and God knows has been poor. We've kept this podcast going every week plus some specials and just some you know online content creation in general that kind of revolve around the bean town universe which is really exciting. A bean town expanded universe. Did what? Who said that? I'm thinking a movie deal. We're gonna expand the podcast into maybe a TV show, like Marvel's agent of shields.

Maybe we could have bean towns, agents of bourbon or something. I don't know. There are a lot of potential there, and you know, now that Disney Plus, I feel like I'm super jittery right now. I don't know why. It's 10 a.m. on a Sunday morning. So everyone, take a deep breath.

If you're listening to this, if you're at your office or at the doctor's office or maybe you're watching the office and you just have bean town on just because you feel bad for me and you want to get me a play, Take a deep breath. Maybe I could do some meditation videos. I don't think I have a very relaxing voice, fresh, present, slash, aura, a-u-r-a, but I don't maybe I could do a yoga video, Beentown does yoga. I think there's a lot of opportunities here in this expanded universe feeling a lot more calm now. I got my head on my pillow. On my Craigslist couch, Craigslist, the place for couches. Yeah, I think there's a lot of potential there.

I might, I've, I've toyed with the idea of doing an audiobook in the past. I'm just not exactly sure what my market is or audience or if you can like legally put out an audio book of whatever book you want, but I'll tell you this much. And a quick sidebar before we jump into our actual topic for today, which we're doing a couple of movie reviews. And we'll talk about this more when it actually happens, but there is a man from Rockford, Illinois, my hometown, by the name of Scott. And Scott is a very unique and interesting man and someone who I don't have a lot of love nor respect for but Scott and I have a very short relationship in history, not in a gay way just in like a person to person way.

And he's just, he's got a lot of interesting things to say about himself and others, interesting in quotation marks. So we'll get to it more and maybe I'll do the audio book of his autobiography, which was published I think last year, something like that. But good hashtag friend of the podcast, Matthew Feedler, has been on many times before, is our text specialist and resident musician. And I like to share and discuss things happening around Scott's life. And well, when we found out that Scott had written in autobiography, we said, we've got to get on this. So you can read parts of it, like e-book style on Google Books,

but it's only certain excerpts. Anyways, I'm in the book. I have friends who are in the book. And eventually, just yesterday or the day before Friday, I suppose, we decided that we were going to get each other to this book for Christmas. So we have both put in an order to be printed for each other. The only downside of it was that we were supporting Scott financially. It was like $13 for the book or something like that, plus shipping. So not terrible, but also just, you know,

I just don't like the fact that I'm giving him any of my money because when I worked with him in the past, worked with him for about 10 weeks and made $35 off of that and 72 cents I think it was. So, you know, with inflation, that's probably up to like $37 now, but still, you know, I basically just gave him half of that back. So, yeah, not a deal, but this autobiography is something else. And I'm thinking maybe if there's an appetite

for it, you can let us know in the comments or email us, beantone podcast, yahoo.com against beantone, beantone, beantone podcast at yahoo.com. Maybe we will do an audio book of Scott's autobiography. It could be fun. We'll see. It could be a beantone on Pluk Special. It is, however, very long. It's something in the range of five to 600 pages. We're talking like Stephen King type length here.

So I feel like that it would take a really long time. So I don't know. I just thought of this idea while I was doing this podcast live for you. So I'll have to let it marinate, ruminate, and a fosquate, a little bit more. But something to put a pin in and something to look forward to. But what we are actually talking about here today, two movies, the Lighthouse and Dr. Sleep, two sort of, although very different films,

both kind of fall under like a psychological horror film and I saw both of them in the last two nights Excuse me Friday night I went and saw the lighthouse Wow belching like crazy here like a sailor like the lighthouse Friday night like the lighthouse. Friday night it's on the lighthouse. Last night Saturday night, saw Dr. Sleep, got to see, something I don't usually do, actually I got to see both of them with a friend, a different friend each night, but it was nice to be able to have someone to discuss the films with we had just watched in real time immediately following the end of the picture. So we'll start off with the lighthouse and then we'll read some ads and then we'll finish up with Dr. Sleep

and I promise it will be a shortish episode because I'm kind of kind of finagling this podcast recording into a larger, a little bit more busy schedule. And I haven't eaten yet. And in fact, I didn't really have dinner last night. It kind of just, I don't know, I was in a weird spot because I had a late breakfast. And then I was doing stuff in the afternoon. And then I had to go to the grocery store. But by the time I got home from the grocery store, I only had like 10 minutes before I had

to leave for this movie. So I got some gummy bears from 7-Eleven, it's smuggled them in, and my friend Steven, who's made an appearance on the podcast before it was our farewell to far-walled episode. You can listen to that back in June or July of 2018. It was a fun episode, a lot of guests on that one. But my friend, Stephen, I had some gummy bears, waltz, waltz. That's not the word, waltz, watching Dr. Sleep. And then after that, I went out and got a drink with another Hashtag Front of the podcast Ryan, who is also on our farewell to far well episode. And then next thing, you know, it's like 12.31 a.m. something like that.

And it was time for bed and dinner never happened. So pretty, pretty hungry. And it's about 11 o'clock now and haven't eaten yet this morning. So that's got to happen. But long story short, we're going to key the podcast short. So the lighthouse directed by Robert Eggers. This is his second movie. He did the witch or the VVitch depending on how you like to say it. If you haven't seen the VVitch,

it's on Netflix. It stars on Utilier Joy. And then the rest of the cast is largely people I don't know. And it's only, I mean, it's a mom, dad, and then some kids. That's the whole movie. But it was, you know, the Vitch is a good supernatural horror movie. It was very kind of like Jordan Appeal and get out just like a very strong directorial debut. So this was his sophomore film, something that a lot of people have been looking forward to. It's produced by A24, who's my favorite studio, and it stars Robert Pattinson and Willem

DeFoe. So, a lot of people these days just know Robert Pattinson because of Twilight, some Harry Potter fans will know him as Cedric Diggory. He did that, he fell in that when he was like 16 or 17. That was, I believe, maybe not his first credited role, but like what put him on the map. And then Twilight happened, which disclaimer, I've never actually seen.

But since Twilight ended, he's been very much like an art see actor. He was in the law city of Zed. He didn't play the main character, Percy, whatever his name is, Percy Jackson, but he sort of plays his assistant. And he was solid in that. So I was excited because Robert Pencens, the kind of guy who is very much known for one role

that's not exactly considered an acting master piece by any means and the movies are kind of a joke. But you can tell underneath all that, this guy's actually got some acting chops. And of course opposite Robert Pence and Willem Dafoe, who I think finally now is like starting to get the mainstream, just like Daniel DeLewis or Gary Oldman, like kind of Christian bail. People are now finally recognizing him as like a powerhouse in Hollywood. And I mean, he's been doing it for so long, right? Platoon, last temptation of Christ.

You know, tons of people know him for Spider-Man, obviously. But I mean, this is a career that's been happening for 40 years or so, just from Little Appleton, Wisconsin, there, up on Lake Winnebago. And I think people have finally recognizing him as just like the amazing actor that he truly is. If you've never seen Quick Sidebar,

if you've never seen the Florida Project, which came out in 2017, I think, he is amazing in that. And I am bummed he didn't win the Oscar for that, but he's been nominated four or five times. He was nominated last year for the Van Gogh movies, nominated for Florida Project, nominated for Platoon, I think, and maybe one other, I don't recall. So it's Robert Pantson, William the Foe, the film, the best parts about it. There are three things that are just crazy good. One, the acting, which I

have already discussed a little bit too. Cinematography is beautiful. Clear sort of connections can you made to the cinematography of this and the cinematography of Roma. The obvious one there is they're both shot in black and white, but the aspect ratio of that Robert Eger shot the scene was amazing too. I don't know enough about film to discuss it. I think 35 millimeters what it was. But, you know, it's amazing how much you can do

with shadow play and stuff when you have a movie that's in black and white, felt very hitch-cocky and also for that obvious connection. But the cinematography was just amazing. It was fantastic, great. Like, weather scenes and the the sort of world building that goes on in this movie, the physical world building was really good. And then finally the music slash the sound. Super kickoff in this movie. Kind of reminded me of Dunkirk, not in that Dunkirk is a kickoff in this movie, but that's the sound plays such a critical role in the overall understanding such

appreciation of the film. It is very much like a psychological thriller. There's a lot of good suspense. The editing was really strong, I felt like that was something that stood out to me. It is also Robert Eggers, so there are going to be parts of the movie that are going to be a turn off to some people kind of in the same vein as like Eureus Lantanus or a Lars von Trier style where there are just some images here and there that are like, oh wow, what am I looking at? That's really gross, it's really disturbing.

That doesn't dominate the movie, but the movie is fantastic in that it really devolves from this fairly straightforward story at first to all of a sudden, and the story gets a little wacky. And it kind of follows the character's going a little bit wacky and by the end of it you're not sure what's real, what you're supposed to believe, who you're supposed to be rooting for, all that stuff.

And at the end of the day, it's just the type of film that really gets you talking and there are a ton of different interpretations and symbolism. And I don't have a great understanding of everything that the director was trying to say, and it's the type of movie where perhaps there isn't just one clear thing he's trying to say. But if you're looking for just top notch

psychological thriller, you know, I'm thinking like, Shutter Island style, iniller, you know, I'm thinking like a shutter island style in that, or like memento or Mulholland Drive. It's that type of movie, but the cinematography in the acting just really takes it to a whole new level. So a fantastic independent film just really underrated everything. Sound, cinematography, acting. So if you get the chance and you can, you know, you're able to stomach just a couple of like, grew some things here and there, and it's really not over the top. Like if you've seen a large Von Cherry movie, this is,

this is, it's not that extreme. Or even your islathamist, but really amazing. Get the chance to see it if you can in theaters. If not, if you watch it at home when it comes out on Netflix or Primer or wherever it will come out, it's the type of movie you have to sit down and pay attention to. You can't just turn it on and be doing something else because you'll watch it and you'll just be like what WTF like I don't really understand when I just watched. You really need to appreciate all aspects of the film. It's really an experience. So if you have two hours, I absolutely recommend it. Fantastic movie. Amazing. That's the lighthouse by Robert Eggers, starting Robert Pence and

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But why do Bible books need, like, especially old testant ones that are not letters, they're just histories, why do we need like two kings or two chronicles or two Samuels? Why don't we just get, you know, we just make condense it into one. Why do we need to break things up? It makes it confusing. So you can have, you know, right now maybe you have,

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The Shining film by Stanley Kubrick, and this film by, I don't know, Shen and Rural, my favorite director. It stars you and McGregor as Dan Torrance, aka Danny. And it also has Rebecca Ferguson, man, really struggling with the words today. Rebecca Ferguson as Rose the Hat and a couple other actors here in there.

I'm trying to remember, there's a semi-famous actor who plays like Dan's friend in this, and then they live up a new Hampshire. And then what's his name? Bruce Greenwood, something like that, has a small role in it as well. So it's the sequel to the Shining. It takes place approximately, I don't know, 40 years after. Danantorance is an alcoholic kind of down and out. Homeless has a lot of personal demons and skeletons and his closet that are born out of the events of the first movie that he's struggling to escape from. Kind of running away from himself.

Anyways, he kind of with the help of some strangers, gets his act together. And then we're sort of introduced to this interesting world building that is a controversial choice that Stephen King made. Basically saying all the kind of weird apparitions and creatures and people that you see in the original shining, sort of talking about like the twins or the old grandma, Nekka grandma, in the bathtub or

the dog or the bear or whatever it is given the blowjob. Those are all like these demon people who aren't really people who feed off of the shines of certain people, which is in this in this movie slash book is given they call it steam. And it's like when people die they give off steam, people who have the shining like day and deterrence like Dick Halloran and the chef who plays an important role in the shining. They all have a greater steam amount. It's kind of like Medi-Clorians. That right there is just like a world building choice that I didn't like. And it didn't do it for me.

Anyways, the movie is not like the shining at all. It's very much, or, the movie is not like the shining at all is very much, or Dr. Sleep is not like the shining at all. It is very much focused on these people who feed off steam and they're hunting people with the shining to try to remain strong and immortal, eternal, whatever. So I was talking to my friend who I saw it with last night. The shining is very much a psychological horror film with some minor supernatural stuff thrown in,

but it is very much contained to the one setting, just a couple characters, and it's just they're devolving into madness. Dr. Sleep is much more like a supernatural action adventure movie. And it really doesn't, I don't know, if the, it feels really all over the place. Like Stephen King wasn't quite sure which storyline slash aspects of the story he really wanted to hone in on. So you get, at the beginning, a lot of like Danny Torrents trying to escape the demons of his past and his father and that sort of thing, but then that just kind of goes away.

And then you're introduced like why it's called Dr. Sleep, so he works as an orderly, or that's there's another word for it But he's at like a hospice unit and he along with the help of this cat Like help transition people from life to death in a very and a more comfortable way But that part of it doesn't really come into play at all It just is like part of his character that you get introduced to in the first act and then it's not a thing again. And then you get so much time spent on,

you know, these crazy creatures who aren't really compelling because we don't really know much about these characters and they're not necessarily likeable nor dislikable. They're just kind of there without really any character arc or development. And then you get introduced to this little girl who has the shining like dantorns but even more extreme level. But it's kind of like the Jedi and the prequels compared to the Jedi and the original movies. Their powers are just like tenfold and way more extreme than what we've seen the shining. So it's just like, I don't know, it felt like, and the one thing that the movie has going for it is that it follows the book very closely. So the issues I had with the book when I read it for the first time are more or less the

same issues I had with the movie. A big challenge with a movie adaptation of a Stephen King novel is the editing because Stephen King does such a good job at weaving characters and storylines together with each other. I mean, it is a classic example, right? It's constantly jumping around different times and same with a stand, right? There are a million different characters. You have to try to keep track of and Stephen King will just jump around all of them. It works out fairly well in Stephen King novels. It's a total pain in the ass, try to execute on screen. And I struggled with it.

The editing in this movie, it just jumped so much from scene to scene. It made building up any tension or suspense or really thrilling aspect of it, really difficult. And because of that, the tone of the movie suffers. It doesn't really feel like a horror movie in any way. It feels like an action movie, frankly. And so it's just, yeah, I struggled with it a little bit.

I appreciate it because if you can execute, if you can turn a Stephen King novel into a movie and put something on there that's halfway decent, you've done an amazing job, because it's a really big challenge. That being said, have some issues with the movie which I've talked about already. It starts June McGregor, Rebecca Ferguson,

they were both good. I just wish, and the movie tries to expand on it a little bit more, which I appreciated, but it's just, yeah, it's a sequel to The Shining, but the, I just wish the story that Stephen King had chosen to write was more compelling, slash focused on, just dantorants and trying to escape these demons from his past rather than just these real life demons who we know nothing about who are just subtly introduced to. We don't know anything about them.

They're not really compelling in any way. And that's just what the story turns into. It's like these demons versus this little girl and you and Gregor is kind of just along for the ride. So yeah, not a huge fan of the story and that's the biggest issue I have with it. So the movie itself was fairly well done outside of the editing, which again, we're really tall-task, but I struggle with it and I think it detracted from the film. Otherwise, a solid movie, if you've seen the shining and you're looking

for a solid kind of secondary installment into the mythology or the universe, yeah, it's worth your time to watch it. And I saw it because I'm a big Stephen King fan. I'll see anything that you and McGregor does, but yeah, definitely some issues with it. Anyways, it's out now in theaters. Go check it out. Probably not one that you're gonna benefit anymore from from seeing any theaters. The music, the sound is good. Again, sound in this movie is kind of underrated a little bit, but it is present throughout and it's important.

So make sure you watch it with the volume turned up a little bit. Completely different project than the shining, even though they're in the same universe. Good, it's just a completely different kind of story. But you do get some action at the Overlook Hotel. And that happens mainly in the third act and that part of it was really compelling. So that's Dr. Sleep. That's our podcast for this week.

We wanted to talk about the lighthouse. We wanted to talk about Dr. Sleep. And we also got to talk about our friend Scott. And I don't know what happened during the Samson Reed, but it got a little bit funky. It's time to get funky, funky, funky, funky. Slide to the left. Slide to the right.

Crease cross. Every single high school dance ever. If somebody plays that at my wedding reception, I swear to God, I will find the DJ, and I will just shut it down. I will shut it, the F down. Those are my feelings on the cha cha slide. On that happy note, thanks for tuning in,

everybody stay warm. If you're traveling this next week for Thanksgiving, although probably not until the week after, watch planes, trains, and automobiles just to get a sense of what you might be going up against. And if you haven't seen it, if you're listening to this podcast and you made to the end and you're like, oh, I've heard of that movie. I don't really know much about it. I haven't seen it.

You got to drop everything. Stop this podcast right now and go watch it. It's one of the greatest, if not, and some people do consider to be the greatest comedy film all time. I would have to think about that a little bit more. Maybe we'll get a list out there at some point. But I mean, Steve Martin and John Candy,

those are two of the funniest men to have ever walked to this earth. So go check it out if you can. That's what we had for you this week. I hope everyone has a nice safe week. Stay warm, get ready for Thanksgiving, and go bikes, right? We will check in on you next time.