Bear Grease - Ep. 144: BEAR GREASE [RENDER] - Near Death & the Super Moon

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

On this week’s episode of the Bear Grease Render your host, Clay Newcomb, is joined by Kristy & Josh “Landbridge” Spielmaker, Dr. Misty Newcomb, Gary “Believer” Newcomb, and Kolby Morehe...ad, owner of Bear Hunting Magazine. The crew discusses the moon and its supposed power over human and animal behavior. Clay highlights the whitetail-focused First Lite's Specter Camo & how it’s benefiting conservation, the new Akern Grunt-n-Bleat from Phelps which sold out in hours, as well as the recent overwhelming success of the Auction House of Oddities (but more importantly Clay and Josh's Handmade Coonskin Hat). The renderers then transition to discussing the most recent Bear Grease episode, Alaska Stories (Part 1), as well as other harrowing tales from their own lives! We really doubt you’re gonna want to miss this one. Connect with Clay and MeatEater Clay on Instagram MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube Shop Bear Grease MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:21 It's great to see everyone. Is it really? Do you really feel that way? Man, I feel like I have an audience. The people are set before. I am, if the people were set in a triangle, I would be at the point of the top of the triangle. Right. The people would be set out in front of me as if in an auditorium.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Right. Gary Newcomb would be one point and Colby would be the other point. Are you trying to describe to people the layout of the room or the metaphor? That wasn't a very good description. Like, are you trying to say you're at the peak of the pyramid? So just before we started this episode, just before we started this episode. Who's in the downline? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Just before we started this episode, I said that I have a lot of stuff to talk about. Yeah. So y'all may not get to talk very much. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a monologue. Wake me when it's over. No, we have a very, very great group of guests here. Colby Moorhead. A bear hunting magazine is here.
Starting point is 00:02:24 It's been a while since you've been on. It's been a while. Great to have you. Yeah. If you're new to the podcast, if you're new to the Bear Grays World, Colby Moorhead, he and I worked together when I had Bear Hunting Magazine. Now Colby owns, operates, Pear Hunting Magazine. The world's... That's what, like, Donald Trump would say, I acquired a business. It just means you're rich and fat and wealthy. When you say acquired and don't say buy.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Right. So Colby acquired Bear Honey magazine. I don't know if you should be a... I receive it. Yeah, a lot of people, you know, there's a lot of ways to get wealthy in this country, and one of them is print magazines about an extremely niche content. Right, Colby? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:15 He's rolling in the dough. The passion pays off. Well, no, Bear Honey Magazine, I had it for eight years and it's a big passion of my life and a very incredible near decade of my life. Only print Bear Honey magazine in the world, been in print for 23 years. God covers Bear Hunting all across the country. Don't DM me and ask me for Bear Hunting Tactics, because I will say the same thing. I say all the time, Colby. What do you think I tell them?
Starting point is 00:03:47 Info at bearhappenhunting.com. Yeah, that's right. No, I say, hey, man, for real, you should subscribe to Bear Honey magazine because there's always going to be, you know, I always used to tell people, one single issue is not going to teach you at a bear hunt. But if you subscribe to it for a year, you're going to learn a lot. Everything you need to know to take a bear. Everything.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Plus, it looks good. That's right. It is a great looking at a magazine. So Colby's here. Dr. Misty Newcomb is here Thank you so much for being here Missy has some really cool shoes on Those are the trendiest shoes
Starting point is 00:04:22 The Newcomb's ever owned They probably are Like when I put them on I thought This is maybe too much for us No I love it That's great I don't know if you can pull this off Banana pudding colored pair of Nike tennis shoes
Starting point is 00:04:33 I think those are called just straight Nikes Nikes You drop the Nike Oh really? Yeah they're classy I've started running again And you know they say you you run better if you...
Starting point is 00:04:45 Feel good about yourself. If you have cool shoes. That's what they say. To Misty's left is Christy, the Landbridge spillmaker. Landbredge's... Christy Mrs. Landbridge spillmaker. Great to have you, Christy. Also sporting some nice kicks.
Starting point is 00:05:02 She is. Wonderful shoes on. This is like a Nike commercial. Let's get that little picture here. Barry sponsored by. Christy, great to have you. Christy, you're pretty pumped about the Alaska. episode we're going to talk about.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Oh, yeah. I'm ready to go. So if you're new to the bear of grief, surrender, we are going to talk about our last episode, which was a Alaska Stories episode, which was a new thing we've never done, which is something I'm very
Starting point is 00:05:28 interested in. Alaska. To Mrs. Landbridge left, it's Mr. Landbridge, Josh Lambridge, Spillmaker. Hello. Good to see you, Josh. You're looking spry like a fly. Thank you. Thank you. out on the river a lot lately.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Fish biting good? I actually learned something the other day that I was not aware of. I had a guide friend tell me a few months ago, and he said, you know, when there's a full moon, he said the fish won't bite. And that had just blown through my memory and not even thought about it. And I went out with a good buddy of mine the other night, and he's as good or better a fisherman than I am. and we put our lines in the water
Starting point is 00:06:12 and we just expected to just tear it up, went out after work. And we fished for nearly three hours and didn't get a single bite. And then on the way, like, we went home with our tail between our legs. Did you try? Just a minute, Josh.
Starting point is 00:06:28 He did they catch one fish. I caught one fish. I got one bite. It was not a single bite. The honest, Josh. But it was right at dark. Did you try casting your fly on the other side of the boat?
Starting point is 00:06:38 I tried casting every. everything. Okay. So on the way home, I look up and I realize it's that. It's that mega moon. That blue super moon. And I went home and started doing some research, and sure enough, it severely affects. Don't get me started on super moons.
Starting point is 00:06:55 You've done it. I think the whole super moon, I have seen, I'm a young man, okay, by many standards. Ish. And I have seen at least 10, once in a lifetime, super moons. I mean, does the media in the world not
Starting point is 00:07:15 hype up these super moons like something you're never going to see the rest of your life? This is the blue moon brighter than the first one? Did they do this when you were a kid?
Starting point is 00:07:23 No. Our final guest, Gary Believer Nukum. Welcome back. Yeah, did they talk about super moons when you're a kid? They were up front, honest, legitimate.
Starting point is 00:07:32 They were just moons. Good folks. Now they just make stuff up. I agree with it. This is nonsense. This is something you should be behind. This is something, this. Well, listen, I think there's a...
Starting point is 00:07:42 I threw a supermoon party, just so you all know, we're different here. And I literally invited people to meet me at a park to watch it. This special super moon. That's true. FaceTimed everyone in my family so that we could all see it together. And then there's the other thing is that the moon never looks as good in a video or photo. Never. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I will be looking at some incredible moon. Unless you have a samson. You're like, oh, look at that white dot. Yeah, I know. So, Dad, Dad used to tell me when we would be out and about and looking at land or whatever, and you would think, when you, in the mountains, everybody talks about views, like a land and a house, does it have a view? Is it beautiful? Is it aesthetically pleasing? And what would you used to say, Dad? When I was a kid, we didn't have enough money to think about a view. That's right. We wanted a roof. Actually, that's not true. I mean, we weren't, we'd have a lot of money. But views just wasn't, I mean, it wasn't a big deal. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:45 We wanted to be able to see our next meal. Yeah. Well, no, it made a lot of sense when you said that to me, when I was young, is that there was a time when aesthetics were not as big a deal. I mean, people literally coming out of World War II. Yeah. Relay this back to the moon. Views.
Starting point is 00:09:04 The world is enamored with all this. You should be External flashy marketing They've got us around their finger What on earth This is ridiculous It didn't cost anyone anything This is not a consumer thing
Starting point is 00:09:20 The supermoon is a conspiracy It's a government conspiracy It's the old Maslow's model We've climbed that pyramid To a point Where we got time We got time to talk about this And Judy said
Starting point is 00:09:36 Hey the super moon is going on outside and I didn't tell her but I like gun smoke better. But I went outside and I looked and I thought it looks like the same moon I see every night except maybe a little bigger. I'm pretty sure though that I'm struggling a lot here. I'm joking. I love the Superman. I'm just saying I feel like there's a lot of drama around the supermoon.
Starting point is 00:10:04 But that brings me to my next segment of the podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, it's going to be a monologue. Moons and wildlife. Oh, really? Oh, okay. Josh was talking about how he didn't catch a fish with the moon. Also children at school. I have spent 43 years studying the moon.
Starting point is 00:10:23 And people's reaction to it, okay, I probably became aware of it when I was like 12, 13. About how the moon affects everything. One of my best friends in high school, Nick Graham Cunningham. his father owned a body shop and I remember them saying they say it as if it's fact when the full moon is out business will be good because people will have wrecks
Starting point is 00:10:48 there was why because they're looking at the moon well that's just it why we don't know why why in banking you had crazy people come in and want to borrow money on a full moon in schools are you kidding no I'm serious
Starting point is 00:11:05 Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, not really crazy, but I mean, you'd get loan requests that was just out, you know, it just wasn't right up. It's a given in schools that on full moons, it's going to be a struggle. And when the full moon and Halloween hit or any holiday that includes a lot of candy, your next day is going to be awful. You're just going to be a difficult. It, like, for sure.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Is this a self-fulfilling prophecy? It impacts behavior. That's. I don't think so. One time. So I get these, like, discipline reports. And this is why I don't think it is. I get these discipline reports.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And one day... Misty's been studying this for 43 years. Well, my whole life I've been studying this. One time I got a discipline report, and I was like, what on earth is going on? And someone just kind of randomly... It was like out of this world, and someone said, hey, is it a full moon? And we looked, and sure enough, it was. That has happened to me over and over and over again, where you have these crazy...
Starting point is 00:12:03 It's like I tell my kids. I'm not superstitious. I am a little sister. Well, there's no doubt that the moon affects wildlife. I mean, there's just no debate about it. But in whitetail deer research, there's a lot of new studies that, because white-tailed deer hunters have very strong philosophies about the moon, including me.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And the research they show, basically the moon doesn't, really affect white-tail deer movement. Really? I mean, yeah. I think there's so much of human life that is anecdotal, biased confirmation of just things that we think or see. So if you're, you drive every single night of your life and stuff happens to you every single night.
Starting point is 00:13:01 But when there's a full moon, there's this shining beacon. and you remember stuff, somehow it imprints your mind that that happened on a full moon. That happened on a full moon. That happened on a full moon. And pretty soon, when the full moon comes up, you're looking for something bad to happen. Yeah, and it's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. I do think there is legitimate impact on... Do you take your dogs coon hunting on a full moon? No. Yeah. I mean, I don't even go. So you don't even know if it could be good. No, he's done it and he said it's worthless. I've coon hunted. I've used the... I'm
Starting point is 00:13:35 I'm contradicting myself. I mean, I'm telling you what I believe, but deep down, like in my heart and soul, I believe the moon is the most powerful thing on the planet. I mean, my brain is like telling me this can't be true. But I've coon hunted with such good dogs night after night after night after night. You turn them loose on a full moon night and just stuff happens. They get, yeah. We've had crazy stories.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I mean, in the last seven years, I have not purposely, if it's a full moon, I'm just like, tack on it. And I don't even go. But then, again, that's a self-fulfilling prophecy in a way because I don't even give it a chance to be good. That's right. Because maybe every time that I didn't go. Have you and Brent Reeves talked about this? Does he feel the same way? Every Coon Hunter feels the same way.
Starting point is 00:14:25 By the way, where is Brent Reeves? Does he have older, cooler friend of him? You know what? Brent Reeves. He's a celebrity now. He's saying. I mean, it's kind of like. trying to get Bayeance on here, you know. I mean, but Clay, just a second, going back to your moon research with the white-tailed deer,
Starting point is 00:14:46 did First Light use this research in the development of their new White Tail Gear? That was good, Christy. Really good, Christy. Well, since you brought it up. Very good. First Light. First Light does have. I've mentioned to my team here that I wanted to talk about First Light white tail gear.
Starting point is 00:15:08 First Light has made a big, big swing at the whitetail world, making full lines of white tail kits. And they even have stuff that's made for people hunting in hot, humid weather in the southeast. And so it's September. It's time you ought to check out First Light for your white tail hunting. And First Light has a pattern called Specter. It's designed for tree stand white tail hunting. A percentage of every sale of Specter goes to, a percentage of that sale goes to the National Deer Alliance.
Starting point is 00:15:44 So they, I don't want to say how much, but I want to say upwards of $100,000 has gone to, the NDA from First Light Spector sales. Is that publicly knowable information? I don't know. It is now, I guess. But that brings up another interesting point,
Starting point is 00:16:04 the National Deer Alliance, Brent Reeves, he's too famous to be on the Bear Grie surrender anymore, but he's not too famous to go to the premiere of a new documentary film called Wild Tale. It's a documentary about the, it's called the country's most successful wildlife conservation story, and it's a documentary about the white-tailed deer. and last night, Brent and I went to Little Rock,
Starting point is 00:16:31 and Brent was the MC of this, like, sports coat. Brent and I, we thought we were going to, like, a hunting event. And we show up there, and it's, like, people in, like, sports coats, hors d'oeuvres. Suits were there, Dad. And I told Brent to wear his overalls. Did he wear his overalls? He didn't. I was ashamed.
Starting point is 00:16:57 of him. It's the first time I've seen him in just like regular pants in a while. But no, Brent emceed the event. He did a great job. Our friend Austin Booth was there. Austin Booth, the director of the Game to Fish, introduced everybody. The producer of the film from Florida that made that they spent 18 months making this documentary film has an incredible amount of people on it. I would say there's upwards of 20 people. It's a really, I like the film. It's a different kind of documentary than I've ever seen. In some ways, like the style of it is, it's very fast-paced,
Starting point is 00:17:31 very information-driven, very engaging. It's, but it tells the whole story of the, the American white-tailed deer and how, you know, there used to not be a lot of deer.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Now there's more deer than we've ever had since, since even pre-European settlement. There's more white-tailed deer. Really? Yeah. And so, and then the,
Starting point is 00:17:56 uh, Kip Adams. one of the main guys that the National Deer Association came in from Pennsylvania and so we all watched the film in this big auditorium and it was really neat
Starting point is 00:18:07 but a cool part of that film is that me and Steve Rinella are on it quite a bit. They interviewed me a year ago here about deer hunting and they did a good job. Did you remember that or were you surprised when it came up on this game?
Starting point is 00:18:27 I knew, I remembered it. I did remember it. I didn't remember what I said, but I did remember it. So you think they did a good job because they picked you and Steve? Could be confirmation bias. Could just be completely. Did you watch it and have regrets of what you said? Was there a full moon last night?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Yeah. Hey, how did our Render Boy get that gig, man? I mean, they just heard his voice and said he's a natural. We want him to narrate this thing. Yeah. Could we call him either Rinderboy or? Yeah, Render Boy. Either one of those.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I'm good with changing his name. Yeah, Render Boy. I like Render Boy. He doesn't even come up here anymore, old Brent. That's funny. No, he did a great job. Is he going to be available to watch elsewhere? Yeah, so they're doing a film tour all across the country.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Currently, there's five cities that it's going to be in, but they've got plans for how it's going to roll out, and eventually the public would be able to watch it. Great. But it was a good film. It was really well put together. Very, the style of it was unique. I'm taken back, Colby, based on your question, and Clay got to watch the film last night.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Remember earlier he was talking about that triangle where he was like the top of the pyramid and the rest of us or the base? So we're the base. Yeah, we're the shoulders. So the common people are going to get to watch that film at some point. Yeah. But not yet.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Well, at some point, Christy, at some point you can watch. So that was cool. What do you have in your hand, Newt? I have a Phelps Acrean Grunner in my hand. That's like a worth $10 million right now. Because you can't even get one. These went out for sale on Phelps website, and they sold out in about 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:20:16 They're going to make some more in November, but not very many. The reason that they can't just whip them up is because that that call is made a white oak. One of my buddies, Scott Brown, he bought one, and he called me and was going to give me a hard time for cutting down white oak trees to make grunt calls. A good point. Yeah, yeah. It's like, no, it's made of, it's made a white oak. And so they just only have, they only had so much wood, but then mainly the acrylic guts of that call, the actual innards of the call.
Starting point is 00:20:55 They have to order that stuff and it has to be machined. And a quality drunk call, or any kind of quality call is usually going to be acrylic, whether it's a duck call or something. So that's not plastic. That's machined acrylic. Really? Yeah. Wow. But this is that inhale, exhale call, which, yeah, I've talked about it.
Starting point is 00:21:15 So stop taunting us with it because we can't get it. Well, I'm just saying I wanted to thank everybody. America, you missed your chance. I wanted to thank everybody for, for. coming to the... I feel like everyone got one except me. Yep. You were out of eight.
Starting point is 00:21:31 How about that coonskin cap? Yes. And we put a coonskin cap on the Meteor auction house, meat eater auction house of oddities. What's the Meteor auction house of oddities which is set up to fund they were trying to buy a piece of land
Starting point is 00:21:48 that was going to open up public access. And Ryan Callahan leads that. This was a, They have specific initiatives, and they were trying to raise $150,000, and they raised way more than that. Ooh, nice. Yeah, way more than that. It's all public knowledge. You could look on and see how much they had.
Starting point is 00:22:09 What did the couldn't skin hat go for? $2,500. Wow. Josh's skinned skin hat. Did you see that picture of the lovely Mrs. Christie's millmaker wearing it, too? Sorry, Christy. Yeah, thanks. Now I wasn't going to tell anybody.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah, that hat, that's a nice hat. Somebody's getting to bargain. Those coons were caught on a full moon. No, I'm just kidding. They may have been. If you could get some coons on a full moon, they would be priceless. It would be worth even more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Thank you for whoever bought that. Yeah, thank you guys. I mean, there was some incredibly generous bids on them. Yeah. Did you see how much the dinner with Steve Renella went for? Yes. Dinner for four with Steve Rinella. 12K.
Starting point is 00:22:57 At his house. 12K, okay. 25K. More? What? This is a game that Barre and I get to play every day when he tells me. I think I saw it. I think I saw it.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I went for 50 grand. You're kidding. Wow. Somebody paid 50 grand. For what? Dinner at Ronella's house. Steve Ronella's house. And clearly it was someone who was wanting to make a donation or a donation.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I mean, you know, it was somebody who was serious about conservation, wanted to make a donation, and was just, that's what the auction house oddities is about, is people being generous for land access and different stuff. So that's really cool. Everybody at the eater was really proud. Yeah, I don't know. We better make it good. Gold leaf. On blood trails, the stories don't end when the hunt is over. They just get darker.
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Starting point is 00:25:16 the movie The Blind about Phil Robertson, the Duck Commander. Is it like an autobiography? It's like a Hollywood movie. What do they call it, a biopic? It's... Wait, wait, wait, wait. It's a Hollywood movie.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Does that mean it's dramatized? When I say Hollywood, I don't mean it was shot in Hollywood. I just mean it is a movie. It's a cinematic, like, well-done movie that could play on the big screen. Is there someone playing Phil Robertson? That's correct. 100%. So it's a drama.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Dramatized. Yes. I'm sure there's drama in that story, too. Oh, I've heard the history. I've never met the Robertsons. I never have. But Phil Robertson's hard not to respect. It's true.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I mean, he, for real is. I mean, he's, he's the real deal. And then I've heard bits, I'm familiar with their story to some degree, but when you watch the movie, you see how wild it really was. Like Phil Robertson was, was a wild man. He played, he had a rough upbringing. You know, it shows all this in the movie. He had a rough upbringing down in Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And he, but he ended up going to college on a football scholarship and started over. Terry Bradshaw. Terry Bradd. Oh, really? Yeah, he was, Terry Bradshaw was the backup corner. Yeah, yeah, and so they showed that. And then, and then Phil doesn't really want to play football and doesn't play his senior year and starts duck hunting.
Starting point is 00:26:47 But after that, his life kind of spirals, spirals pretty hard and gets involved in some pretty rough stuff. And it shows a lot. It really does. They were candid on what they showed. And, but then he, well, I don't want to give away the movie. movie. But it's,
Starting point is 00:27:04 it's good. I like those guys. But the movie comes out in late September. I want to say, can somebody look up for me? Yeah, I'll look at it. Like on the big screen? Like in theaters?
Starting point is 00:27:19 They're screening it in certain cities. But the movie's called The Blind. And, yeah, it's really good, really good. The Robertsons are, Phil's a,
Starting point is 00:27:31 he's a, he's a, man of faith for sure a believer and they're really strong outspoken outspoken believers September 28th September 28th so yeah the blind cool Phil Robertson mm-hmm well what did you guys think of the Alaska Stories podcast quite entertaining I like it dad why don't you why don't you uh once you tell the story that you were going to tell. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Me and Dad have a story. Yeah. Near-death experience. Mm-hmm. We were going to Alaska. Canada. Not Alaska. Canada.
Starting point is 00:28:14 To up. When we do our Canada stories. A. Well, why wouldn't that work? Canada is a wild, woolly place, but you can't have a Canada stories podcast. I mean, you can't even tell a story here and lie a little bit. You get caught immediately. It doesn't have anything to do that I'm 90.
Starting point is 00:28:32 two years old. My brain's about half right. But we were going to Canada, I guess, on your first bear hunt, sort of out of the country. And anyway, we were on a secondary flight, little puddle jumper, wasn't it? Mm-hmm. Air Canada. All of a sudden, a plane with maybe like 30 people on a small plane. It wasn't a little bitty guy.
Starting point is 00:28:57 So I'm just sitting there. I'm on the aisle and Clay's next to the window. I notice he's looking out the window all the time. And finally he says, Dad, there's something wrong. His plane's been circling now several times around the airport or city or something. And about that time,
Starting point is 00:29:14 a Sturdis came on and goes, things aren't going well. We're hoping. We're hoping a nice afternoon. Thanks for us aren't so great. Is everyone right with Jesus? Let me tell. I don't want to hijack your story,
Starting point is 00:29:29 but... It was interesting. We took off, you know, straight off the runway, and then the plane started to bank, which is common with a plane. You know, they can only go one of two directions on a runway. And if you're going a different direction, the plane has to turn. And so the plane banked, and you kind of felt it banked. And it just stayed banked for like 20 minutes. Like it never.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And so, you know, I was like, but it was just, it was subtle. Yeah. But I was like, we're going in. circles. And after like the second time, I was like, we're circling. Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty neat.
Starting point is 00:30:08 You observe that. And so the stewardess came on and, you know, she handled it real well. I don't want to scare you all to death, but we're about to die. But she said, look, we've got some problems with our landing gear. And this is, we're going to take this real serious. You know, we're not going to. So would you, young man, would you handle that door? This is what you do.
Starting point is 00:30:36 This guy, would you handle this? Get your oxygen down and put your head between your legs. And so she went through the whole deal of how we were going to handle this crash. I mean, the landing year wouldn't come down, at least one leg of it. And so what I found interesting was here I am an older guy. I got my family raised. And I'm thinking, well, Lord, make it quick. You know, I don't mind going, but I'd hate to just suffer real bad.
Starting point is 00:31:08 But Clay's young. He's got a family. He's got a wife. He's got a lot of responsibilities. So he had a few more prayer requests than I did. But anyway, how did it end up? Well, so we landed. Dad and I jumped out.
Starting point is 00:31:28 No, the stewardess came on and she told us what was going on. And what it was is that the brakes of the landing gear didn't work. And they were anticipating a potential crash on the landing. And the stewardess, she said, so we are preparing for a crash landing. This is what we would do if there's a crash landing. And, I mean, it was like, it wasn't a drill. And from the time we started our descent. Did you, is this over where you?
Starting point is 00:31:58 took off? Yeah, it was like, you're headed to your destination. Apparently they took off and everything was okay. And when they went to pull the landing gear back up, it wouldn't pull back up. And I just remember the problem was is that there were no breaks on the landing gear.
Starting point is 00:32:14 So you were just going to come in super hot and potentially like burn the rubber off the tires, spark up on the plane. They had fire trucks. So we circle, circle forever. for probably an hour because they were trying to run the fuel out of the plane
Starting point is 00:32:32 and so they run all the fuel out of the plane and then when we go down to land but from the time we start to descend that that stewardess at Air Canada was taught to yell what did she yell she yelled nonstop
Starting point is 00:32:47 like a phrase like cover your head, watch your feet we're going to give you something good to eat I don't know what she said But we had our heads down and she's going, like it wasn't erratic. It was, she was screaming something that she was supposed to yell at us. And yeah, I mean, we really thought this is going to be a crash landing. We did.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And they had fire trucks all down the airstrip. And I just remember it was just a rough, fast landing. Hey, you know, let me add one thing about that trip. I thought it was kind of fun as the daddy. we bear hunted and we couldn't get a bear and our guide couldn't put us on a bear and finally Clay said would it be any problem if I went back to this other pasture we were on and a guy said well yeah you can go back over there within about five minutes he'd killed a pretty good bear with an amazing shot with his bow so I mean he did his own guide work yeah that was a good hunt
Starting point is 00:33:55 That was that bear right up there, us sitting right up there. Yeah. Yeah, we'd seen a bear out in an oat field the first day, and I liked the spot, and we were having trouble, and we never went back there, and I just had a feeling. And I said, hey, take me back over there and just let me out of the truck. And he was like, okay. And he pulled me up on a county road, and we had permission to hunt this place, and I jumped to barbed wire fence, ran out into this oat field, came around a corner.
Starting point is 00:34:24 There's a bear in the middle of this. Oakfield laying on its belly, like right at dark, shoveling oats in its mouth. That is awesome. And I'd been shooting my Matthews DXT and Killed Bear. Yeah, that was a great trip. Thanks, Dad. Yeah, so that was the time we almost crashed.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Josh, have you ever had any near-death experiences? Trying to think. In Canada? I have, not in Canada. Man, but I was never much of a daredevil. You know, I didn't, I didn't, you know, I didn't drive my car fast and didn't. But one thing I'd love to do...
Starting point is 00:34:59 You did listen to Metallica. That's right. That was life-threatening. And then... But we used to... Man, we used to love to jump off bluffs when I was a teenager. And we would go to the lake and jump off bluffs, but we'd go to the river and jump off bluffs, too.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And there's a spot that was like... It had a... It had a... We all called it skull rock because it kind of looked like a skull. It was 43 feet high, but you had to hit a hole that was about, I don't know, maybe 10 foot around. And when you hit the water, you had to ball up because you would still hit the bottom. And, man, we used to do that. It was thrilling to me, but I look back on it now and I'm like, God, that was stupid.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Yeah. And we used to swim up into tunnels against the current that you couldn't turn around. Wow. And I just think if the slightest little thing went wrong. But I loved being in the water back then. And I know you had a close call in the water. But man, we just, we love doing stupid stuff in the water. So I look back and think many of those could have been life-threatening.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Christy, have you ever had a near-death experience in Canada or Alaska? No, I have not. Anywhere else? No, I think the only story I would tell and really just to make fun of myself is that there was a summer. We were hiking, and one of the people with us, I was actually with Clay and Misty Newcomb on this hiking trip, screams ahead of us, this young girl, and finds this huge timber rattler. Do you remember this? Oh, yeah, yeah. So Clay identifies it.
Starting point is 00:36:39 It's a 30-year-old, you know, whatever. Single male. It was the biggest timber rattler I've ever seen personally. Really? Alive. Bigger than that. No, no. I mean, I didn't see that one.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Okay, you didn't see it alive, yeah. And it was a super intense hike that had like a, it has the biggest drop off. So you're kind of unnerved anyway, just doing that with kids. Right. So we did that. Like a month later, we're on a camping trip. And we're out with your brother, Misty. We walk by, there's a rattlesnake.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I highly respect the rattlesnake because it tells you I'm here, get out of my way. So rattlesnake, like two weeks after that, Josh and I decided to go hiking in Fayetteville, Mount Kessler. We're up there. and I am terrified of snakes and I've had these two experiences and I hear this sound. She's a little gun shy. And I jump up on a rock
Starting point is 00:37:27 and just start screaming. And Josh is like... For the Lord to help her. That's true. It's true. I'm always crying out to Jesus in these moments. And I'm on there and I was like Snake Raller!
Starting point is 00:37:40 And Josh is just looking at me like I'm insane. And a half a second later this man comes by on a mountain bike that is clicking. It was a It was his hub.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And the click of his triggered PTSD inside of me. Anyway, no, I've not had any near-death experiences. So her near-death experience was that she was within 60 feet of a timber rattler. Well, actually, I think her near-death experience is that she was within 60 feet of a mountain mud. That's right.
Starting point is 00:38:09 That was a near-diving experience. Dad, what would you say your nearest death, nearest two-death experience has been? You know, I just hadn't had any. I'm safe driving about being. Vietnam. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that would be. Oh, you know, I really wouldn't. I mean, anybody can die in Vietnam, but I didn't get put in crazy situations.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I was transferred to within just like 20 miles of the DMZ with a bunch of Marines. And my buddy down in the middle part of Vietnam called around and had me transferred down to him. and he was getting hit every night. And there was shell in the base. And I was mad at him, man. I mean, I got off the plane and started looking for people with faded fatigues. I'm thinking, man, you can't survive in Fubai. And my mother prayed every night for me.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And, I mean, once I stepped in Fubai, a rocket never hit for a year. Really? Wow. And Kwong Tree, Kwong Tree just got, boom. That's where you were? That's where I was.
Starting point is 00:39:22 The Marines base right on the DMZ, and it got hit all the time. Now, I've never heard you tell that story quite like that, or I don't remember it that tight and concise that. Hey, it was serious. I was mad.
Starting point is 00:39:35 My best friend, in fact, I spent the day with him yesterday in Lulrock. And I wouldn't even hardly speak to him. I said, Sears, you've got, with your CEO and got me moved down here into a pit that's chances of us getting out of here is slim and none. And an area rocket hit, not even one, you know, so it's pretty, that's pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:40:03 But hey, hey, while we're talking about being numb, I wanted to, I think I've done this, but the guy, when you said thanks to the people that bought that hat, it made me think of this, The guy that looked up my old buddy. Yes. I hope he's listening. And we got a hold of him. Had a great reunion and probably going to go to Florida and see him. So dad talked about,
Starting point is 00:40:25 I mean, you had to have said his name, didn't you? Yeah, Quinn. Yeah. Dad talked about Quint on one of the podcasts. And Quint was this guy they knew in Vietnam, lost touch with him,
Starting point is 00:40:36 thought he was dead. I mean, they didn't hear that he was dead. They just assumed he was dead. and then 40 years passes. Yeah. And we look for him. We look for him almost every few years.
Starting point is 00:40:48 You know, we're just whatever you do to look for people. Dad and his buddy that got him into the war zone down there always wondered what happened to Quint. And I've heard Dad talk about Quint my whole life. And he always says, we figure he's dead. Well, a Bear Grie's podcast listener who has some incredible research powers for, real with his job he has wink wink he could know about anything you wanted to know he uh legally it's not it's not like an undercover deal he found quint reached out to me and said hey here's that guy's phone number i mean pretty much yeah i love that and i think he i can't remember the details it was
Starting point is 00:41:32 it was it was all within the boundaries of something that was ethical and in he may have even reached out to that lady i think he reached out to that lady i think he reached out to Quint's daughter and said, hey, do you mind if I give your, you know, this? Could have. He talked to her because I never did. But we contacted her first. Okay. In fact, I was the one that contacted her, even though Quentin Sears were the really, like, brothers.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And anyway, he had a real nice daughter, and she was just excited that we'd called her. Yeah. So, anyway. It's pretty wild. In fact, she just sent a picture of the three of us. Sears yesterday. He got it a few days ago. He sent me.
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Starting point is 00:43:07 I think you'll be glad you did, and you'll find out that the Steve Ronella cut is an easy-to-use cut for beginning callers who just want to start making good turkey noises and getting action. Colby, near-death experience? I got a couple. You want a longer one or shorter one? Well, let's see how good they are. Why don't you grade them for me? Grade them.
Starting point is 00:43:29 On a scale of one to ten, how good are they? The longer one is the better one. Okay. The shorter, and it involves duck hunting. Okay. The shorter one is squirrel can't. Wait, no. The long one is squirrel camp.
Starting point is 00:43:42 shorter one is duck hunting. Well, just take us right to the good stuff. Okay, squirrel can. So growing up, my dad just, like, knows the river, like, back and forth, like always on it. When I was born, like, he was a commercial fisherman. So he met a lot of characters. And so at one point in time, every year, he would go to squirrel camp. And I was excited.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I get to leave school early. We're going to go to squirrel camp. We're going to camp out with all these guys. It's great stuff. But we're mainly just fishing. but we camp out on this bluff on the on the river and uh they had made this big they constructed this big overhang to put all the tents under that was made with bamboo and then they show me what happens whenever you put bamboo inside of a fire you know it just like pops real loud and i'm like third
Starting point is 00:44:28 grade and so there's this drop off that uh it was about 15 feet of a drop off is kind of like a pretty steep grade and so that night there was a fire about six feet from that drop off and so that night there was a fire about six feet from that drop off. All the guys, the grown guys were over here talking. And so I'm just throwing bamboo in there. And I'm just like, Fourth of July over here, just like popping and everything. And it's just great. And so, you know, growing up with fireworks,
Starting point is 00:44:54 you just really feel like you understand certain principles in life, like the law of the dud, where you throw, you, you know, light one, and it just doesn't go off. The law of the dud. The law of the dud. And so I was like, I threw this piece of bamboo in there and nothing. And I'm like, DUD. Where's the next one? And I go to throw it in there and that thing just explodes with fury and you got all these embers just popping out. And to me it could have been like an atomic bomb. Like, you know, it just seems huge. I took one step back too far and all of a sudden I just fall off this thing. And so like I'm just sliding down it and I'm just grabbing, trying to grab a hold of whatever I could. And before that might. It's at night. It's at night. Nobody and nobody's seen you fall. No, no, no. And before then. It's a big river. It's a big river. And before then.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And then my dad had told me to put a life jacket on if I was going to keep doing that. And I was always obedient. And I was like, all right, all right. He's like, you either stop doing that or you put a life jacket on. So I had a life jacket on it. So he could see the threat that like you don't fall off into the river. He's like, there's possibility. And this isn't like a little creek.
Starting point is 00:45:53 This is like the red river. This is a sulfur river. So, I mean, this is like a huge, big, nasty, muddy river. Yeah. And so, like, I'm sliding down and I'm just grabbing whatever I can. And then I land in the water on my back. And there's a little shuffle. there that's probably about three foot wide
Starting point is 00:46:10 and there was just enough water where I couldn't turn over so I was like a turtle wheel on his back and I just remember how big the moon was and then oh no you don't no no no
Starting point is 00:46:25 no superverse you pull-moon anyways at that same time there was a boat going down the river and so all of a sudden there's these waves just like coming over me and I'm just like freaking out.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I was like, is this how this happens? And I remember like, yeah. And then I remember like just a silhouette of a guy just like full dive off of it. And he lands like maybe like five feet to my right. Oh wow. He jumped off the bank into the river. Yeah. Earlier that day he had like jumped out of the boat and he's like throwing me some ivory soap.
Starting point is 00:46:57 He was wanting to take a bath and stuff. So like just love the water. And then I see another figure come over and just like come down at like the silver surfer, you know. And they reached me at the same time. And then my dad had always told me, like growing up whenever I was in trouble, where I was really getting close to getting in trouble, he'd be like, boy, I'm going to plant a boot. So they reached me at the same time. My dad grabs me.
Starting point is 00:47:23 And the only way to get me up is he would lift and then he would kick me. And so I thought he had finally planted a boot. That was a good. I'd say that was a strong room. Yeah, very good story. Eight and a half. Yeah. Maybe even a nine with a super moon comment.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Yeah. That's a good one. That's good. That's good. That's good. Misty? Near death? You know, I don't really have any near death experience.
Starting point is 00:47:48 My parents rode motorcycles. One time, I mean, like punchline. We hit a deer on a motorcycle. Oh, man? No. Yeah. You know. That was good, Cole.
Starting point is 00:48:03 But I think, I think, I mainly just watch my brothers. do stupid things and just thought, I'm not going to do that. That's good. That's good. That's real good. That's real good. You know, I was always too afraid to get too risky. You know, drove slow and all that made you good bankers.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Actually, probably driving is probably the nearest death. When I was first, when I was dating Misty, she was young then. I was young too. And she would come and tell me, she'd be like, man, I was driving down the road today. and the car just did a 360. It just is. Yeah, I mean, for real. Like, that happened.
Starting point is 00:48:43 And I just said, what? And she was like, yeah, I cut the wheel and the road was wet. And it just like zip just did like a 360. I mean. Oh, my goodness. Do you remember? I actually remember that evening. And I just remember being like, this isn't okay.
Starting point is 00:48:58 You've got to learn how to drive. Hey, the geotracker she had was quite entertaining to Jenny and I. I mean, there was not a spot on there that didn't look like somebody beat it up with a hammer. Yeah, it's true. It's true. I learned by doing. My money had a Geo Metro and we used to pick it up and put it on the sidewalk. You know what? She lasted a long time. Everyone kind of made fun of it because we got it new and it looked fine. I mean, geometros aren't like fancy cars, but we paid for our own cars so I could afford it and I was super proud of it. I beat that thing.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I mean, like, I was super rough on it. When we got married, we ended up... Oh, you had that car when you got married? Yeah. Yeah, we drove it. So many of our friends. And it was like the car that we passed down. We ended up giving it to my brother, to Zach.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I do remember that. And we gave it to him as a gift. And one day, I remember we were, he was driving it. And he said, hey, Clay, it was kind of like, thanks for the car. Did you know it'll do this? And the steering wheel would pull off of... of it. Mid drive.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Like all you're going. You could just like, just the slightest, you know, you had to get it lined just right, but just a little jerk on the steering wheel. And the steering wheel would completely come off. And then you could put it back on, like in a flash. But there was just this little like Allen head back in there. Man, the day I got it, actually literally, like within 48 hours of getting that car. I got it.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I was a waitress. I bought that car. You know, my parents signed on the low. with me and I was super proud of it. I was going to make the car payments. We go to school and I wanted to take the back roads. My mom didn't want me to. I did not understand that was her preference until she started yelling it.
Starting point is 00:50:44 And I'm like just barely got my driver's license. And she's like, no, go that way. And in a panic, I turned it and immediately flip the car. Oh, my goodness. Like that was literally 48 hours after getting it. And her coffee cup was the only thing. It went flying across my face. It didn't hit me, but like it broke the window to the left of me.
Starting point is 00:51:05 And we were just like suspended in the air. Like she, I'm looking at my mom. And you looked up at the window and all you could see was the full moon. I know. It was daytime. It was before school. And we were on these back roads and it wasn't too far from where my parents worked. And someone went to that workplace and said, said, hey, there's been a car wreck.
Starting point is 00:51:25 And everyone came and it was me. And it was no fun because everyone there, you know, knew me. and we were suspended in the air. My parents were like, you're going to have to, you learn, they were the type that you learned the hard way. So I paid for it, we got it fixed, you know, a mechanic, fixed it, all that. I was grateful to have a good waitressing job and that it was fall in Arkansas when the colors, and we get lots of visitors.
Starting point is 00:51:49 So it paid for it. So I probably had a couple different wrecks, and I have a feeling that Zach's steering wheel trick was a byproduct. Could have been. It could have been. Clay, going back to the story, the Alaska stories. Yeah, yeah. That's what I want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I think the thing that stood out to me the most in it was the story of the outfitter that took the two guys. Yeah. Was it two guys or three guys? There's three guys. Three guys. I appreciated the assessment after the fact of all the little things. Like it wasn't this, I made this huge mistake, and that's what put us in this. crisis, but he recognized I pushed it too far here, and I pushed it just a little bit too
Starting point is 00:52:35 far here, a little bit. That really impacted me in thinking about how I do things, whether that's in the boat, whether that's in life, whether that's, you know what I mean, making commitments and you know what I mean, tying myself up so I can't make that commitment. I thought it was really, I thought it was a really profound, profound story. Yeah, I agree. Just every time they, they, they delayed for whatever reason that river was just rising. Yeah. You know? Yep.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Yeah, that was scary to me. I mean, that big fast-moving water is wild. No, fast-moving water, golly. I would have been scared crossing a river that fast, that tall. I encountered a deal like that. A friend of mine and I were going to hike and get to it. You had to cross the river. Been raining real hard.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And we knew once we got across the river, we'd be fine. And so I said, hey, man, we got rope. I'm going to put the rope around me. You hold on to it. I'll get across. I'll tie that rope to a tree. And you come across with the rope. And it worked really well.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And when we got in the wilderness area, you had to cross the creek so many times. I just got tired of it. So I thought I was going to go up this steep ridge and go back down. And I got up there about 60 or 70. feet and I got scared man I looked down and I had that rope with me and I was too scared to come down that thing that's how steep it was and I tied the rope on again man slid down left the rope there but you know rope pretty handy honestly carrying paracord it's fit so small and it's so strong it comes in handy man yeah you could have done the same thing mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:54:27 Always respect the water. Josh and I fish a lot. We're out where we usually fish tailwaters here in Arkansas, and so you're near a dam. And if you're weighed fishing, you've always got an ear open for the horn. They'll sound a horn saying we're going to start flowing the water, whatever the word is. Did I say it right? Generating. And so you're always listening and you're moving as fast as you can.
Starting point is 00:54:52 The most unnerving message that I read last year was the horn on the dam has become inoperable. We don't know when it'll be fixed. So we're out wait fishing. It's like, okay, is the water going to rise? You put a little sharpie marker on your waiters. If the water gets above here, let me know. Tell your buddy, pick a partner. It is fixed.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Colie, which story did you like the best? Can I ask you a question? Yep. How did I get punked? Because I wasn't clear. Yeah. Okay. So the last story, I don't know if you guys, how much y'all were paying attention when you were listening to the podcast.
Starting point is 00:55:35 The podcast told the story of a man, two men nearly drowning. It told the story of two men nearly getting their heads knocked off by a widow maker on an Alaskan river in the back country. It told the story of a man. and woman who had to spend the night underneath a goat hide. Yeah. What was the other story? It told the story of a man who was charged by a
Starting point is 00:56:02 grizzly and had to shoot it. Yeah, that was pretty crazy. What would be the common theme of those stories? Near death. Near death. Okay. The last story was about a guy who didn't bring enough pairs of underwear to Alaska.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Didn't bring any pairs of underpants. No, just except the one he was wearing. So that story being in the lineup, would be funny. Right. We understood it. It's funny, but it's... You got punked.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Because you thought it was going to be life-threatening. Yeah, yeah. Did you get it, Josh? But was it a true story? It was 100% true. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:36 I mean, I think... Man, the punk fell through. Well, the punk, I didn't... I just feel like you kind of accuse people of getting punked and it's like, I don't know. I don't know that that was getting punked. It was just like, yeah. It wasn't...
Starting point is 00:56:49 Well, okay. Here's the backside. This is a back side. This is the dirt that people come to the render for. Here's the back. This is why the show's back story. I wrote that VO of saying, you've been punked. What's a VO?
Starting point is 00:57:06 Voice over. So when it's me talking. Yeah. And it's like scripted talking. I wrote that VO before I ever heard that story because we did it at the last minute. And I didn't even hear that story until it was on the podcast. I got you. I just, it was supposed to be, it was kind of going to be like a, like a joke.
Starting point is 00:57:28 It was just a joke. Like, I went to Alaska. I was a fishing guide. We had all this stuff happened. Da, da, da, da, da. And then I almost ran out of underwear. We just got punked. We thought he was going to die.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Well, it was a great story. Did you understand? I had the effect you were looking at. I love the story. You know, I saw it was kind of goofy. Yeah. I mean, I didn't have it all figured out, but I was clearly. Clearly. It was my favorite story.
Starting point is 00:57:54 No. It was a good story. I was just thinking Chafin and B.O. is not a joking matter. Especially on a full moon. Especially. Okay, okay. Well, it's my fault, guys. Bear Gries, world, I am sorry that that joke fell on deaf ears.
Starting point is 00:58:12 You didn't ask me what my favorite story was or what stood out to me. Let me just tell you what stands out to me. Both in the story you told this afternoon, right here in this live render, and the story that I listened to this afternoon on the actual original Bear Greece Alaska shows, Alaska stories. Something that stood out to me is that I think you downplay
Starting point is 00:58:33 your potential connection to death when you come home to me. 100%. Like when I was listening to those, I was like, gosh, I didn't know it was that bad. And then today when you're talking about the airline, I'm like, I always just kind of thought it was in his head
Starting point is 00:58:49 that it was actually a dangerous situation, not like the stewardess yelling. By the way, she probably yelled, brace yourself. Brace, brace, not. It was a weird Canadian phrase. Move your feet. You know how when you're in Europe?
Starting point is 00:59:04 When you're in London, when you're in London, they say, mind the gap. When you're on the subway in London. It was something Canadian. But it was like, be prepared for danger. Take off you.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I think this is a common thing, Misty. And I wonder if other people who are family members to the people who share their stories would say the same thing. My son, David, when he was 19 or 20, goes out west by himself and goes hiking and comes home. And I say, tell me about your trip. And he tells me about his trip. And, you know, it sounds like he had a good time. And then like a week later, my daughter, who's two years older than him, comes over. And she's like, good Lord, mom.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Did David tell you about his trip? And I like, I make a face. And I was like, yeah, he did. She's like, can you even believe that? And I was like, tell me what I can't believe. What are we talking about here? And the story she tells me about his trip. And the story he told me about his trip were very, very, very different.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Where he spent like eight hours in a tree well that he wasn't sure he was going to be able to get out of all by himself. Yeah, like it's snow. It's snowing. And, you know, under the evergreens, it drops down in. the snow builds up and if you drop down in and you don't have anything to dig out with, you can get stuck in there because they can be 10 or 12 feet deep. So he's stuck in a tree well. Like anyway, we don't have to go into the story.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Maybe David could be on your next story. But what David tells me and what actually happened were quite different. Right. Yeah. Very, very different. And as a parent, you have to hear that story and not look surprised as Mallory's telling you because you've got to play it cool. And then you can't call David and say, hey, I've got new intel about your tree well experience. and I'd like to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:00:50 You clearly are a better mother than me because the next time I said, David, I was like, what the heck? That's good. Good story. Did we ask everybody? Colby didn't tell a story. Yeah, which one?
Starting point is 01:01:07 Man, I liked them and I felt like I could identify with a lot of them on some level. But one made me change how I'm acting now. Okay. Yeah, it was the sow charging him. and bait and bears it's like hey i better take a pistol or uh can of spray today because this bait is on fire yeah yeah so uh but then like the one that you told about the flash water i think that one is the one that that uh would scare me pretty hard yeah and i can tell
Starting point is 01:01:37 it a bold story well that one too yeah both of them like anything with water i like how he tied the like the whole thing to don's childhood and like his takeaway where he broke through the fear where he felt like he was just going to look forward. Yeah, that was a profound statement. Yeah, it was. It was good. You know, what he said, too, would be real handy for people to know is if you're retrieving somebody out of fast water,
Starting point is 01:02:01 don't take them a 90 degree straight to the bank. You go with a flow and do a 45. Yeah. Yeah. And most people wouldn't think of that. I wouldn't have thought of that. I mean, I'd be fighting trying to get the guy straight to the bank, shortest distance, you know, between two points.
Starting point is 01:02:16 You'd have had rope, though. I wouldn't have gotten that situation probably. I think that in addition to being a great storyteller, providing useful information and practical knowledge that people should take with them into Alaska, Billy Moles also has a name that could be a great country singer name. Yeah, no doubt. Billy Moles.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I've known Billy for at least 10 years. He wrote for Bear Honey magazine back in the day. And Billy made incredible documentary films about Alaska. He has, back when DVD, he still sells DVDs, but, you know, DVD sales aren't as hot as they used to be. And they, but you can still buy them all. And he's putting a lot of his stuff on YouTube and different stuff. But yeah, Billy, Billy is a, he's a great guy. Yeah, I really like Billy Mills.
Starting point is 01:03:06 We got a lot of emails, people missing him whenever he got out of the magazine. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was a real good writer. Just, yeah, he just, he's really meticulous. And he was a good guy. He was, he just was really, really diligent, big, strong guy. I mean, just like kind of a athlete, tough. Kind of guy you want pulling out of water.
Starting point is 01:03:29 He didn't even want to tell a story about a boat wreck that nearly killed him in Alaska. I can't, it's not that he hides that. I've heard him talk about it, but he was just like, ah, that's not that exciting. I'm like, that's pretty exciting. You know, the story, the underwear story, when you listen to the very first, he goes, you know, we saw a cabin float down the river. We saw crasets coming out. And he mentioned stuff that would have been probably the best stories of anybody. I know. Randall Williams. I told you I didn't get to listen to that before I heard it.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Yeah, if I would have done that again, I would have been like, hey, Randall, why don't you tell me about when the graves came out of the cut thing? Josh and I were listening together and both of us were like, whoa, how loud? Because I asked Randall, I knew Randall was a fishing guy fishing guy in Alaska and I was with him last week
Starting point is 01:04:20 and I said, hey, do you have any good like harrowing near death stories in Alaska? And he was like, not really, but once I did have to wear the same pair of underwear
Starting point is 01:04:31 for 30 days. That's perfect. And so that's how it all started as I said, hey, I want you to tell that at the end, and it'll be funny. But apparently, it was funny. No, the story was phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:04:48 The accusation of having been taken advantage of it was not. We don't like being manipulated. Exactly. I heard that. I was like, excuse me? You were like, I take offense at that. I have not been pumped. I knew what was going on.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I knew exactly that that was a funny story. Did it bother you, Josh? Yes, I was offended. Personally offended. Did it bother you? I just thought it didn't bother me I just wanted
Starting point is 01:05:11 how the you know the take we have on it is different man when I go back I went I had to go listen to an old Bear Grie's podcast today or yesterday for
Starting point is 01:05:21 for some I can't remember what I was listening for but it was one I did like two years ago and I was like golly man why are you yelling and then I came in here
Starting point is 01:05:37 and did VO. today and did the exact same thing. I can't help it. It's a joke in our family's house that Clay wakes up. Like sometimes, Clay and I are at this weird age where sometimes we just wake up at like
Starting point is 01:05:49 four in the morning for no good reason. We're like, well, I guess we're up now. Let's get up and work. And so we get up and we work. And the kids talk about, like, in those times, like they'll see me like tiptoe. I have to walk through Shep's room to get to my office. So he'll like sometimes wake up to me like tiptoeing
Starting point is 01:06:04 trying to stay quiet so I don't wake him up. And he's like, but not dad, man, dad. He talks at a pretty much full yell 24-7. He is deaf in one ear. You got to give him a lot. It's true. Yeah, you got to yell. You got to talk loud, passionate.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Loud and passionate. Chef said he woke up at 5 in the morning the other day Clay telling me about how he cleaned something yelling from the top of the stairs to me in the living room. I'm like, that's enough. Sleep's important for kids. Maybe that's where the vow. you is is differing.
Starting point is 01:06:40 My kids, they've woke me up so much. He's not wrong. Well, thank you guys so much for coming. Thanks for being on the render. There's another, we've got another Alaska Stories podcast coming out. Can't wait. The next one is another one.
Starting point is 01:07:02 All different storytellers. With a different mother. All different brothers from a different mother. That's right. There's some good ones. Are we going to get punked? No punking on this one. No accusation. Actually, actually, the last story, I had to put like a disclaimer on it.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Like, if you have small children, you might want to listen to this before. You let them listen to it. I'm ready for that. Yeah, it's a legitimate disclaimer. Legitimate disclaimer. Oh, man. Could you, gosh, I want to comment since media this. You have to tune in.
Starting point is 01:07:35 You have to tune in to the next bar. Do you think that I can listen to it, like, based off of your... Yeah. Well, yes. I don't like being scared. Well, you'll see what I mean when you hear it. It's different. It's different.
Starting point is 01:07:50 It's very good. It's told by someone, folks. No, I'm not foreshadowing at all. So, you have to tune in. Thank you guys so much for being here. Dad, good to see you. Josh, Christy, Misty, Colby, Bear Honey magazine. Good to see you, too, Newk.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Maybe one day we'll get Render Boy back on. Render Boy, Brent, the Render Boy. Last spring, Clay Newcomb and I collaborated with Jason Phelps at Phelps game calls in building each of our own favorite turkey diaphragms called Prime Cuts. Now, I'm going to tell you, I love mine because it's easy to use. I'm not going to go, I'm not going to win a turkey calling contest. It's just not going to happen. But when I run this call, I get the sounds that.
Starting point is 01:08:47 gobblers are looking for. I have a great turkey hunting track record. If you go listen to real turkeys out in the woods, they're not going to win calling contests, right? That's who I listen to. I can make those sounds on my cut. I also hunt with Phelps's cut, and I hunt with Clay's cut because they're all three great cuts. Check out prime cuts at Phelpsgamecalls.com. I think you'll be glad you did, and you'll find out that the Steve Ronella cut is an easy-to-use cut for beginning callers who just want to start making good turkey noises and getting action. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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