Bear Grease - Ep. 340: This Country Life - Did It Really Happen That Way?

Episode Date: July 4, 2025

This week, Brent's searching the archives of his memory for some answers. Were the good ol' days as good as we remember? Were bad days as bad? Do feelings of nostalgia alter facts? Listen in... and see if you agree with his conclusions. He's also sharing a listener's story about a stubborn horse named Bob. Saddle up! It's time for MeatEater's This Country Life podcast. Subscribe to the MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube Connect with Brent and MeatEater MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and Youtube Clips MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube Shop This Country Life Merch Shop Bear Grease MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:24 First Light's new fieldwear gear at firstlight.com. Welcome to this country life. I'm your host, Brent Reeves. From coon hunting to trot lining and just general country living, I want you to stay a while as I share my experiences and life lessons. This country life is presented by Case Nives on Meat Eaters Podcast Network, bringing you the best outdoor podcasts the airways have to offer. All right, friends, grab a chair or drop that tailgate.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I've got some stories to share. Did it really happen that way? It's human nature to sometimes make events better or worse than they really were. We fit the narrative of what we're telling to benefit the desired outcome of what we're trying to say. Revision is history, misremembering, or just flat out line. I don't know. You'll just have to judge for yourself. But I'm taking my own memory to task today.
Starting point is 00:01:32 But first, I'm going to tell you a story. This story comes from this country life listener, Jerry Barker. Jerry resides in Nancy, Kentucky, about five miles from where this story took place 70 years ago. An earlier time when the art of swapping was more than a pastime in rural America and borderline on community entertainment. So in Jerry's words and my voice, here we go. When I was a child, the old men in our community would gather and swap not a lot of only stories, but various other items such as pocket knives and livestock and pretty much anything. I remember stories of pride and victory from some who gained the advantage of no more
Starting point is 00:02:24 than a dollar by outdoing their opponent on a pocket knife trade. The object of swapping was always to get the better end of the deal, to out swap the other guy. Story I'm sharing took place in the late 40s and was told to me by one of the principal swappers' relatives. And his name was Charlie. I never had the opportunity to meet Charlie, but from the stories that heard about him, I know that he and I would have been buddies. Charlie's community was at Fawbush, Kentucky, a spot in rural America that had a country store. Charlie was a successful dairy farmer, and after milking chores, he'd often venture
Starting point is 00:03:08 to the store to swap. There was also a locally infamous horse named Bob. Bob was a beautiful, strong, well-built horse that anyone would have been proud to own just from the looks alone. But Bob had an issue, a bad habit of sorts. Most all horses of this time were expected to work in a harness, requiring the horse to pull in some kind of capacity. Bob was no different.
Starting point is 00:03:36 and would do okay most of the time, but in a difficult pull when the struggle was real and a task when Bob was needed most, he'd balk or he'd just hesitate, he'd stop and refuse to move any further. No matter what persuasion was used, Bob held his ground and there was nothing that could be done. He'd gone as far as he was willing to go. Most of the farmers and swappers had their turn at Bob. Bob was a popular swapping eye.
Starting point is 00:04:06 him. Charlie had heard about Bob and was ready to accept the challenge. One day at the store, Charlie told the crowd that they just didn't know how to handle a horse. He could do it properly, and he could break Bob from this bad habit. It wouldn't be a problem for someone that knew how to handle a horse. Bob's current owner quickly gave Charlie his turn, and after the swap was made, Bob found himself on Charlie's farm. Bob settled in and Charlie put him to work. The first few days passed without any trouble. Bob and Charlie worked well together.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Then this happened. The day was hot. It was very humid. And Charlie and Bob were gathering hay. This was before mechanical hay balers and Charlie would stack the loose hay on the wagon. And all Bob was supposed to do was to pull it to the barn where it'd be unloaded.
Starting point is 00:05:06 and stored for the winter feed for the livestock. The hayfield was under a pretty steep, long hill. With the wagon loaded, Bob started up the hill, and about halfway up decided to introduce Charlie to his bad habit, and he stopped, dead still, and he stood in his tracks. Charlie tried to persuade Bob to move on, but Bob wasn't going anywhere. Then Charlie had an idea, and he went to the wagon, And he gathered an arm load of hay.
Starting point is 00:05:38 He placed that hay under Bob's back legs and Bob didn't move. Charlie had given Bob every opportunity to do his part in this new partnership. Bob refused. And Charlie set the hay on fire. Bob decided that maybe pulling that wagon wasn't such a bad idea after all, and he quickly moved forward. And then he stopped placing the wagon load of hay. directly above the flames. The hay ignited like a fuse and burst into flames. Charlie had to
Starting point is 00:06:12 hustle to get the fire put out and almost lost the whole load and the wagon along with it. No idea if Charlie was still proud of his trade for Bob and I don't know how their relationship went after that incident. Maybe Charlie won the war who knows. But Bob, he definitely won that battle. and according to Jerry Barker of Nancy Kentucky, that's just how that happened. Well, Jerry, I appreciate you sending that in to share it with the rest of us. I'll always try to pick out the obvious lesson that come from these stores y'all send in, and I guess this one is sometimes the best trades are the ones that are never made. Thanks a lot.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Lightning bugs were further taken. Their soft yellow glow floated and pulsated on and off like a million little neon lights with loose connections. A mason jar with holes poked in the lid from an ice pick would be where the ones I would catch would spend some time as I ran around in the manicured St. Augustine grass that fell cool on my bare feet while the thick, humid Arkansas evening hung like moss in the air. My grandparents sat on the back patio of their home. In lawn chairs, each were the hand fan pushing the muggy evening around them while I made laps in the yard, running back and forth to where they sat watching me. After I added more lightning bugs to the jar so we could count them and watch the magic glow.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I can still see the reflection of light in their glasses as they smiled and marveled at what I thought was the amazing job I'd done in catching all those bugs. I know now they were smiling because they love me. I'm not sure why it's summertime more than any other, and maybe it's not. Maybe as I sat here reminiscing about a gentle memory of a summer evening and my grandparents from long ago, it just felt that way. Remembering a simpler time and a slower pace and a time that I thought would last forever. There's no doubt in my mind that I do that all the time.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Not just now, but now, this time of year anyway, is when I would spend a lot of my time at my maternal grandparents' house. Finis and Bula Sly. They lived in town, and my grandmother, Mama Sly, ran the day-to-day operations of the front of the store at the egg processing plant we owned and worn. And I could go with her to the store or she dropped me off at the YMCA for me to go swimming with my friends. that lived in town or I'd get up at the crack of dawn and ride to the farm with Papaw. The farm, where I lived. A trip that might have us first going by Johnson's hardware or the farmer's co-op or or Southern Lumber Company.
Starting point is 00:09:20 There were always projects and repairs to be made at the farm and at the eggplant. That's what we called that facility. And no grandpa I know of liked having a grandkid running around him always in the way any more than mine did. I didn't have to mess with school in the summer, and at the age of 7 to 10, my farm chore workload wasn't near as crucial as both of my older brothers were.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I was the baby, and I did what I wanted, and just about whatever I could get away with. Staying at Mama Sly and Papa's house removes me from the duty roster, and I was glad to be there. On blood trails, the stories don't end, the hunt is over. They just get darker.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I've seen something in the road. I instantly thought it was a sleeping bag. And there was a pool of blood. Oh my God, he doesn't have a hit. Blood Trails is a true crime podcast born in the outdoors. Where the terrain is unforgiving, the evidence is scarce, and the truth gets buried under brush and silence. Indications were he should be right there.
Starting point is 00:10:36 But he wasn't. This season, we're going deeper. from cold case files to whispered suspicions, from remote mountains to frozen backwards. Each story begins in the wilderness and ends in darkness. Because out here, there are no witnesses, no cameras, just fragments and the people left behind trying to piece them back together. He's not an honest person. He's incapable of being honest. Somebody somewhere knows something. I'm Jordan Sillers.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Season two of Blood Trails premieres April 16th. Follow now on Apple, Iheart, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts. I was thinking about those times early this morning at the dog pen as I freshened up the water in Jesse's bucket. It wasn't yet 7 o'clock and the water in the hose was already hot and took a minute to cool off as I stood there, spraying the dirt around the pen to knock down some of the dust. And just thinking, I'd sit with my papal as he watched the evening news and weather, and then we'd have supper. Afterwards, we'd help Mama Sly clean the kitchen and watch a little TV. My grandpa read every night, Western novels and National Geographic magazines.
Starting point is 00:11:55 He liked history and learning about things and places he'd never seen or been and would never go. Mama Sly would have my bed fixed next to theirs, and when bedtime came, I'd lay on top of the cotton sheets, both windows raised and the metal window screens, the only thing separating us from the outside. There was no central air, and only winding unit air conditioners were in the other end of the house. But regardless of the time or the steamy temperatures, you'd be scratching for the covers before you got to sleep good. They had an attic fan in the hallway ceiling that was so strong. It would pull the Coke money out of your pocket if you walked under when it was running. It didn't take very long to cool you off, laying on top of the covers, especially if you were still damp from
Starting point is 00:12:45 taking your nightly bath. The fan, drawn air across you at a volume unmatched by anything outside of a tornado. It was loud, but the steady drone was white noise that would have me in a coma by the time one of them
Starting point is 00:12:59 would be getting me up the next morning. Breakfast came early, and if I was going to the farm with papaw, it came real early. The sound of meat frying in a cast iron skillet and the kitchen radio tuned to KWRF, the local radio station and Warren would greet me as I turned the corner from the living room into the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:13:20 The aroma of coffee and bacon hung in the air, and to this day, more times than not, when I smell either, I can see my mama Sly standing at the stove in the dress that she'd be wearing to the store that day. Her hair fixed, earrings, pearl necklace, kitchen apron, and house shoes. She'd say, good morning, lazy bones, hug me, and asked me, how I wanted my eggs cooked. Fried was always my response, and she dropped two in the hot grease she just took the bacon out of.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I prefer my eggs over easy, but my mama's lie had two versions of eggs, fried or scrambled. There was no other choice. And her fried eggs would be heat-treated until the very edges formed a brittle lace that would break when I smashed them with my fork. If ham was the meat of the morning,
Starting point is 00:14:11 you could count on red-eye gravy as being on the menu as well. Well, if you've never had it, you should try it. She'd fry up a skillet full of salt cured ham, remove the meat, and leave all the rendered fat, and then she'd pour black coffee in the skillet and let it simmer, rendering that concoction into a gravy worthy of what was coming next. Biscuits. She could whip up a pan of biscuits before quick could get ready. They were always the same, always good, and always on the breakfast table.
Starting point is 00:14:42 They'd hit the table last. And when they did, it was time to pray and commence to eating. You know, a fellow can conjure up quite an appetite just sleeping because I would absolutely wreck my side of the table while Papal waited for me to finish, polishing breakfast off with a big glass of sweet milk that was so cold it would hurt your teeth. Then I'd find my shoes and we'd hit the door. Papal toting two biscuits with ham wrapped in wax paper that Mama's lie had fixed for us to take with us.
Starting point is 00:15:12 One for each of us, to have, love. later that morning. And I'd have them both eat not long after we got where we were going, regardless of where it was. Sometimes we'd stop and visit with neighbors that were out in their yard or near the gravel road as we passed by their farms. Meeting someone on the one-lane county road required you to slow down, and if it was someone that Pipeau wanted to visit with, he'd just stop.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And we'd set talking from truck window to truck window. Too much rain, not enough rain. They never seemed to be the required amount. Cattle prices, egg prices, cutting hay, there was always something to talk about. One thing for sure, if we didn't have time to stop and talk, the wave was automatic. Whether you knew the person or you were meeting on the road, you waved at them. And not like you were standing on the dock waving goodbye to the troops as they shift off to war. It was more of a courtesy how to do as we passed, usually with the hand that was on the steering wheel.
Starting point is 00:16:15 one or two fingers and eye contact as you passed. Always eye contact. I'm not sure when that tradition stopped where I lived, but it did. The world is a little worse off because of it. I never heard of road rage back then, and if you met someone you didn't like, you just didn't wave at them. You didn't try to run them off the road or challenge them to a rassling match at an intersection. Ignoring their presence was the...
Starting point is 00:16:45 ultimate disrespect. Waving at an oncoming vehicle got to be a habit. Every car you met on the county road or the highway got a wave out of you, and they waved back. Sometimes, even the guy you didn't like got a wave because you weren't paying attention or they were driving in a different car. When that happened, you got mad at yourself, not them. You got mad because you know they saw you do it because of the eye contact thing.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Dang, that was Dennis. I can't stand, Dennis. Now Dennis thinks I want to be friends. But inevitably, Dennis would realize the mistake because the next time you met, he'd wave and you wouldn't. That even the score. Gotcha, Dennis. But the Dennises were few and far between. Our rural community was small and we operated in familiar circles of family and friends.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Folks that sat behind us in church were the ones I saw when we walked into the store on Main Street. my Sunday school teacher delivered me as well as most of the kids in my class. It was an ideal childhood in raising the way I remembered. How accurate my memory is is one thing I always called into question. Even though I know the events of what took place and what the eventual outcome of what came to be, I knew what that was, but the middle part, was it as good or bad as I remember? Or am I subconsciously fudging my mind? memory with emotion and nostalgia. Now that's a question I asked myself a lot as I
Starting point is 00:18:19 weigh deeper into life. I see things differently now or at least I try to and it reminds me of how I must have saw things back then as a child when the wonderment of a jar of lightning bugs was enough to focus my attention and secure the feeling I got sitting at a table with folks two generations ahead of me and not wanting to be anywhere else but right there. a place and people I wish I could wake up and sit with in the morning. In my mind, I go back there to that table, to that farm, and with that community often, and it's a great place, but was it as great as I remember?
Starting point is 00:19:01 I don't know for sure. Probably not. But there's a quote from a movie, a movie that came out in 2003 called Second Hand Lines. You've probably seen it. It's a great family movie with some good lessons. in my opinion. I don't have to tell you anything about it. You can look it up and decide for yourself if you want to watch it or share it with your kids. But in that movie, there's a line that has stuck with me for 22 years, and it sums up my feelings on how well my memories are played out
Starting point is 00:19:33 when I think about them, and I share them with you. Here's the quote. Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. These stories I tell help shape who I am, helped me identify my values and strengthen my courage and resolve to live with a purpose, even when the world will try to harden my feelings against it. The world will try that and will succeed only if we let it. It's all up to us how we make today a good memory for tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Thank you all so much for listening to all of us here on the Bear Grease channel. If you meet someone on the highway and they wave at you, wave back. It might be me. Until the next week, this is Brent Reeve, signing off. Y'all be careful. On blood trails, the stories don't end when the hunt is over. They just get darker. I've seen something in the road.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I instantly thought it was a sleeping bag. And there was a full of blood. Oh my God, he doesn't have. I have a hit. Blood Trails is a true crime podcast born in the outdoors, where the terrain is unforgiving, the evidence is scarce, and the truth gets buried under brush and silence. Indications were he should be right there, but he wasn't. This season, we're going deeper, from cold case files to whispered suspicions, from remote
Starting point is 00:21:32 mountains to frozen backwoods. Each story begins in the wilderness and ends in darkness. because out here, there are no witnesses, no cameras, just fragments and the people left behind trying to piece them back together. He's not an honest person. He's incapable of being honest. Somebody somewhere knows something. I'm Jordan Sillers. Season 2 of Blood Trails premieres April 16th. Follow now on Apple, Iheart, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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