Bear Grease - Ep. 433: Render - Evan Felker & Dale Brisby-Horses, Mules, and Wild Hogs

Episode Date: March 18, 2026

On this episode of the Bear Grease Podcast after a full day of hog hunting in Oklahoma, host Clay Newcomb sits down with Dale Brisby of Rodeo Time and Turnpike Troubadours frontman Evan Felker along with Donnie Daytona, Andrew Stubbs, and Bear Newcomb to swap stories about catching yearlings in the woods, bronc riding, training horses, and the realities of ranch life.  Evan discusses what life is like on the road playing music and working on a new album for "The Troubadours." Thank you to our sponsor, Tecovas. If you have comments on the show, send us a note to [e-mail] Connect with Clay and MeatEater Clay on Instagram MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and Youtube Clips MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube Shop Bear Grease MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They're the most comfortable boot I've ever put on. Good boots for good times. Welcome to the Bear Grease Render. I'm Bear Nukum, and I'm coming at you from the Tikova's Hot Seat. This podcast is presented by Ticova's Boots and Western Wear, but we've got quite the render coming at you today with special guest, Dale Brisby, from rodeo time and Evan Falker with the Turnpike troubadours. And I want to thank you guys for listening to the Bear Grease podcast.

And if you haven't already, go check out the Bear Grease YouTube channel. Let's get into it. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. This is Dale Brisby hosting the Bear Grease podcast. It's going to be the best episode you've ever heard. because we have muted Clay's mic, and Dale Brisby will be taking over. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Dale Brisby here.

I've got a welcome to Bear Grease. We've got quite the eclectic crew here. We are, we're broadcasting from a wall tent in Oklahoma. This is the first for me. At what point in the trip did you decide or realize, like, it was a mistake to invite Dale? Well, it was at 908, 1117, and 338. Those were the notes that we took in the edits. What happened at those three times?

You have to talk to my lawyers. Oh, okay. No, it's been a blast. It has been fun. So we are, we've been hog hunting. Let me introduce my guests first, though. We have, first of all, Evan Felker. I got to introduce Evan first.

Evan, you've been on here before a couple times. Yep. And good to have you. Thanks, man. And then your buddy, who you introduced me to, Andrew Stubbs, who I got to give credit to Andrew. I guess his name was on a bare grease because you were the one that brought up Bucky Garrison. Yes, sir. While we were at Shoney's, and you were eating peaches and cottage cheese.

Yes, sir, my favorite. And, yeah, we're at the Shoney's buffet. and uh love good shonies well so is Andrew and so to me and me and Evan Cowpox is closed now so we don't have a whole lot of options

yeah yeah it was good though but no he he brought up a game warden that had gotten killed and uh and it ended up being a great episode of bear grease so and Andrew is like real deal cowboy

and uh takes care of I mean you you you ranch for a living. Yes, sir. Yes, yes. And then... What do you think I do?

Well, everybody knows. You do that. Why do you say I was the real deal, cowboy? Well, I mean, on to Donnie Daytona. We've got Donnie here from the Winnebago. Yeah. Now, by way of Winnebago, yep. By way of Winnebago.

Howdy, howdy? Good to see. We've got Bear John Newcomb. Yep. Yes. So we've had a big day. Evan, can you describe the highlights this morning? So we were hog hunting, horses and meals, what was going on?

What stood out to you? We were chasing around some dogs all over some pretty good, big country. It's nice to get to ride through all that hardwood bottoms and stuff like that. It's nice to see it. I kind of had to leave before all the action started. So really my part of the story is not as... Well, I thought you might tell about Dale's little stunt that he pulled. Oh, which one?

Good question. The one that happened at 1117. My lawyers would be contacted him about. I did get a raccoon. That was the 908. Yeah, yeah, that was 908. Yeah. Caught a wild yearland.

And then caught a wild yearland. And rode it off into the sunset. Yep. Let him go. And then I forgot to actually... keep him. So we're hog hunting and we see some cattle and Andrew says, hey, there's some yearlands in there that we've been needing to catch but haven't.

And so Dale Brisby and the team, Andrew, Evan, Dalton, all take off with Lariat Ropes. It was fun to watch. I mean, just full speed. You know, we kind of just walked up to them and then you guys just put up. turned on, you know, put the spurs to them. And we were kind of standing back. And, yeah, it was cool to watch. And they run this herd, I don't know, seven or eight cattle into the woods.

And they just kind of disappear. And everybody that I can see fades, you know, kind of like quits, like, kind of like, oh, man, they got away. That's what it looked like from like 200 yards. except there was one cowboy who wasn't accounted for those he was unaccounted for for real and we just keep riding and then it was like I'm going to be really nice to you right here

just once it was like a scene from the man from Snowy River when they're like there's no way we'll catch him except for deleted scene deleted scene I know that's the way I remember it anyway And anyway We come around the corner and somebody

Sees Dale like through the woods Like 200 yards in front of us On the ground with one of the yearlings What can I say? I mean How did it happen? Yeah I mean it was just so wild You know I just

I I did in fact miss With my loop and into the wind. And it just kind of like, and yeah, I knew the way he was running that I could maybe get ahead of him and get him turned back.

And so when he, I got him turned, but there was still sunbrush. And I want to say I dove, you know, probably eight feet through the air. It was like, it looked like Michael George. and actually what really happened was he fell down in some brush. I got off. I ran up.

I saw y'all coming. I kicked him three times. I was like, get up, get up. And so he got up, and he started running, and I ran beside him. So it was kind of a fair chase thing, and I dogged him with an audience. Well, see, I didn't know that full story until later this afternoon. All day I had in my head that you were just like running. through big timber, full speed.

I mean, that is what happened. Just bulldog. Yes, that is what happened. That is actually what I thought happened until like two hours ago. You told him? I don't know who told me. Yeah, it was Evan who told me. Yeah, I told him in confidence.

You didn't say it was in confidence. Did you know that's what happened? No, I had no clue. Well, I figured. You know, after filming him for six and a half years, you just kind of use context clues, but you never count him out. He caught it. It was caught, caught cow.

Caught cow. 100%. Catch his catch can. What did you think happened, Andrew? First thing I've seen, I just seen his horse come out, and then Dale was riding the yearling. The reason I kind of figured that's what happened is because that cow almost fell down out in the open

and, like, stumbled and got back up, and he wasn't moving very fast from when he got back into the woods. Pretty easy to dog. Yeah. But, hey, I was. also the one that killed the raccoon. I was also the one that killed both the pigs. I'm carrying the team today.

My back is sore. I need me a little back rub, you guys. Yeah. Carrying the team. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So... Well, it was... We're all eating meat

tonight because of Dale Brisby. You guys are meat eaters tonight. Otherwise, you'd be like cracker eaters, bread eaters, grape eaters. Grape eaters. Grapeed. Yeah, we did eat some grapes.

You're welcome, Steve Ronella. Well, Andrew, how's the cattle business? It's good. Is it still good? Yes, sir. Even with high prices, does that not, does that hurt you or help you? I mean, obviously, you feel like it would help you. It's all the same for me because we just, we take all these cattle in and, you know,

we get paid by the head per month to take care of them. So, you know, it's good for the guys that own them. But, you know, we just got all the care on them and everything. But it's really good cattle markets. It's amazing right now. I mean, we're paying for that at the supermarket. Like, that's the short version. I mean, like, stakes are cheaper.

Or more expensive. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Evan, what do you think? Is it good? I mean, it's good to be a cattle farmer right now? Yeah, it's good.

I mean, it's a good time. It's a lot better than it was three or four years ago. But, yeah, don't get me to line about, obviously, if a calf costs more per pound, then it costs more per pound as a stake. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's going to trickle down. But it's caught up to me in that, like,

I've been keeping my own yearlings or keeping my own heifers. And now I'm at the point. Like I, I mean, I just keep a few, and I picked one. I was just, for a video, we were going to sell one, and she was ugly, and I didn't really want to keep her as a cow. And she weighed 610, and so we take her into the sale barn, and she was $4 a pound. Brought $2,4.24. Hmm. Seems like a lot.

That's a lot. Well, the problem now is, is, you know, do I sell the rest of them? Mm-hmm. You know, or do I keep... Because I keep heifers every year that way. I don't have to buy cows. Mm-hmm. And so, I mean, I've got five cows, you know, a handful that I know they're just so old.

I'm going to have to get rid of next year. So I don't know if I keep a few heifers to replace them or, you know, because they're worth $2,400. You can cash it in now. Yep. It's just all a market timing thing that you got to risk it to get the biscuit. Yeah. Yeah. I understand that.

But I think even the horse market's up too, you know, like what you give for a... That's clinking on you. A good gelding, you know. Mm-hmm. I mean, really anything. Mere Stod, whatever, you know. I think it's just more. Everything costs more.

Mm-hmm. You know, we brought a really nice mule into our office the other day. And on the Berger's Render. And I attempted to sell it for my buddy. Like a little online auction? Yeah. Oh, cool. Did it work out?

He got some calls. He got some calls on it. Nice. But it was a pretty nice one. So, yeah. Mule market's pretty good too these days. Is it? Okay.

Yeah. I was curious. You would know. I thought you would be curious about that. Evan, how's music? How's you're touring a bunch? You're writing music, recording music.

Yeah, putting a bunch of songs together and, yep, trying to get another batch of songs out. You got some good ones? You don't read some lyrics off your iPhone notes to us? Give us like an inside scoop thing. I think that would be not what I would want to do. No, I've got a few written.

They're pretty good. Can you tell when they're good? Hopefully. I mean, I don't know. Do you know something I don't? What have you heard? I wasn't going to say anything. No, what I mean is...

Which ones do you think are good? We've been singing them all day to you. Do you have a sense of like this is going to be... I mean... Yeah, that's your main talent if you're doing this deal is knowing what's good and... Hopefully, knowing what's good and bad. Yeah. Sometimes you know it better.

What about like the super hits, the Turnpike Tribador super hits? Would you have been able to distinguish those from others? Or was there some surprises? That's kind of my question. Usually if I'm excited about something it lands, you know, with other people. Yeah. That's good. Andrew, do you help them write some songs?

I've tried. He won't have me. You try to give him some tips or some hints and what to write about? I stay out of the way on that deal. Do you get the cliche, like, will you listen to my mixtape? Kind of. My demo tape? Can you get that a lot?

You know, let's just check this guy out. Yeah, you get some of it on Instagram or whatever, yeah. And what are they wanting from you? You just sing one of their songs? I want, I don't know, sometimes, I guess. Sometimes they want to play a show, whatever. Different stuff. Yeah, yeah.

I get that with the young Bull Riders. Dale I want to come to the ranch You're the goat Come watch me ride Pull my bowl rope Let me ride there Just hold

Me and Evan We get it all this time He gets me I don't have time I can't do it for everybody Right yeah You don't listen to my mixtape Donnie

How long have you been working with Dale It'll be seven years in July July 3rd You're kind of making a career of it Yeah, I just don't have anything better to do. No, it's been fun. Get to do cool stuff. Like film hog hunts, horseback, you know, with my heroes.

Who you talk about? I'd rather not say, you know. I'll leave it up in the air. Y'all can decide. He's a big fan of Andrew. I really. Fair man, he's the man. Makes his,

on bows and the wood. Yep. Yep. That's incredible. No, but you're rodeoing. Yep, pretty good now. Yeah, or I mean, like going to a lot. It's pretty good now.

That's not what I meant. That sounded terrible. But yeah, I'm going to a lot of them, and it's been good. It's kind of was something I didn't ever really think would be possible, being the age I was when I started getting on bucking horses, but it's been a blast and starting early. What was the first year you made an Ami Finals, 21st? it would have been

this would have been my third one this year 22 yeah so 22 3 I got on my first bucking horse in 2020 right and I made my first amic finals two years later three years three four and five 23 four and five yeah so but yeah we're just rocking and rolling having a good time and meeting cool people along the ways it's insane like how this day and age

like the number of saddle bronch riders there are is insane like i i hate to keep saying that because i don't want to bake in some excuse for young guys but like it's wild like he said he went to a bronch riding the other night 25 guys there and he knew three of them like that would never happen 10 years ago why is it so popular now Dale brisby making youtube videos how to be a cowboy watch on netflix yeah i'm sure you saw it i did i I absolutely did. No, I think that the internet has made... But why Bronc-Riding?

I know Rocker-Stiner is, you know... Well, Bull-Riding and Bearback Riding have gained a lot of traction as well, rodeo in general, but I'm talking about Bronc-Ronding because, I mean, that's what he does, and that's what I love. I love Bull-Riding, too. It's neat to see Saddle Brank-Riding

get its do sometimes, because it's such a cool sport. like it's something I've always kind of been it's one of the more like interesting things that it's the most interesting event to me you know and it doesn't get as much hyper excitement I think it's like bull riding did you know I feel like real cowboys for sure tend to like appreciate bronch riding the most is it harder it's so much harder to learn and it's the OG sport it is the hardest to learn on the entire arena I don't Don't let anybody kid you.

Mm-hmm. Oh, we got our... Something about having to learn how to get in rhythm with a bronch. Mm-hmm. It's crazy, hard to learn. Hmm. He made a bronch ride today. Evan did.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it looked good. Brank buster. Did you? Did your horse? Buck? Yeah, I mean, almost. We've had a squirrel dog come in on us.

What are you doing, man? That dog, not to... I want to hear about your bronch ride. That dog last night, Bear was sleeping on the ground in here, and it crawled in the, he's in a mummy bag, and it crawled into his mummy bag down to his feet. I was nervous he was going to suffocate in there because, you know how when you put hot hands in your sleeping bag

and they get cold because there's no oxygen? Mm-hmm. I was thinking that was going to happen to him. But he did it on his own. Yeah, well, I had to kick him out because... He wouldn't leave Bear alone. He kept coming back. Yeah, I was not trying to share a sleeping bag with him.

It smells like a skunk. Bronc ride. Back to the Bronc ride. Oh, yeah. I had a fresh horse. It was windy this morning. It wasn't too bad. We got through it. Yeah. Okay. Well, Barry, have you ever thought about getting on a bronch?

I've never actually thought about it as something I would do voluntarily. Like for fun? Have either one of y'all been bucked off a mule? I have. Yeah. Been bugged off a slow trip. Do they spin? Is that how they get to?

It seems like meals always result to spinning. Not really. Well, not the times that I've been bucked off. I don't think they've spun. It looked like a bucking horse? Yeah. I mean, it's what it felt like. I doubt it looked like that.

But I get, whenever they take off in the woods, I feel like they use low-hanging limbs to their advantage. They're so smart. They're so smart. I'm going to run this guy off on a tree. Mm-hmm. You know, the time's the same mule bucked me off. And I felt like he was bucking like a bucking horse.

But honestly, he probably was barely bucking. Yeah, I just couldn't stay on. But I guess they, I don't know that they spin all the time. But got some wires. That's maybe just been my experience. Mm-hmm. Do you guys ever just get real tired while you're riding on and just want to quit and get off of them when they're bucking? I do.

You know what? I just don't like the way he's bucking. You know, if he bucked different, I would stay on. But I don't like the way he's bucking. I'm going to choose to get off. Last spring, Clay Newcomb and I collaborated with Jason Phelps at Phelps game calls in building each of our own favorite turkey diaphragms called prime cuts. Now, I'm going to tell you, I love mine because it's easy to use.

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messing with horses. It's been probably 2020, 2019, something like that. And I got pile-drived and pile-drived. Like, it was a regular thing. to get bucked off. I've probably been bucked off in front of you,

hadn't I? Why were you trying to break young ones? Was it, were you... I thought what we were doing. Were they two-year-olds?

Two years and three-year-olds. Yeah. Why are you still breaking horses when there's plenty of general ones in the world? That's what you did. You're supposed to do that. I was just quoting it.

No, really, like the guys I looked up to all-star cults all the time and ride cults all the time. So that's like, it was just what you're doing, you know? Yeah.

And really, it's nice to have a broke horse because you learn how to do it. I hadn't had any really good broke ones until I've been here in the past few years where we could team rope and stuff on them and you learn a lot of broke ones. Do you have any from then that you started as two-year-olds you still own? That gray mare I'll ride tomorrow. Oh, really? Yep.

And then that bay horse I got. I got three. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I gave my dad one of them. Nice. We rope on two of them. That's super cool. Now, Andrew, you train horses.

You train horses too. Yeah, for myself, yes, sir. For yourself? Yep. But you're always like riding one and going to sell it. Is that right or no? Yeah. That's my perception.

Yes, sir. I try to. I try to, you know, buy some two-year-olds and ride them. And, you know, if somebody comes along and wants one and, you know, I can make some money on it or whatever, keep them until they're four or so, you know, I'll do that. Yeah. Yes, sir. But I'll keep a few around.

Yeah. Well, I can tell that you guys are both training horses, by the way, that you spend your kind of the downtime. Like, you were constantly today making your horse back up and being. While we were just sitting there, like waiting or talking, you were messing with yours, and Evan does the same thing on his. Yes, sir. I got some young horses I needed to ride, but I just figured this deal was just like, Man. Dangerous. Well, I just, I knew we were going to be just easing around all day.

I was like, I'm going to take something enjoyable. Yep. Yeah. If I need to go and. I need to strap a hog to him. If I need to. I was totally impressed with your horse, Dale. Yeah, Bandito.

Yeah. Bandito go. Yeah. Bandito is pretty gentle. He'll blow two on two. He looked good. He likes the track. He's a sleeper in my string because, as Donnie has said,

looks like a horse you would draw as a kid. Like if you're just like, the way his neck is shaped and he's so short, like you might draw him. Like, yeah, that's bandito. That's what a horse is. That's the horse. Yeah. But, and that's most of my strength.

They look that way. But when they look that funny, they're also like usually more affordable. Yeah. If it's a balanced, you know, all the lines are matching, then it's probably not going to work out. I mean, it's probably not going to work out for my budget. Well, you, it'll carry a hog. Take two a year, Lynn. Take two a year, Lynn.

Yep. Yep. Yeah, I was impressed. I was impressed with a... Thank you. With a horse. Thank you. Yeah.

You don't usually admit that about me, so I appreciate that. I've said two nice things about you, but I redact... The first one, though... I officially redacted the first one, because it just wasn't true. Well, you knew the true story because my friend turned his back on me. Write a song about that, Evan Falkman. Yeah. Turn my back on Dale Brisby.

Barrett, what stood out to you today? Well, these guys. I would say the number of horses and dogs and people that we had was pretty cool. It was pretty cool. Yeah, I think we had close to a dozen, dozen different animals and people out there. I thought that that was pretty interesting. I've ridden like that a couple of times with mules, but the mix with horses and mules

was eye-opening to me, kind of the differences. What'd you learn? Well, the horses, I was shocked at how fast they were. I mean, I knew they were faster and more athletic than a mule. Yeah. But like, Dale, whenever you took off across chasing that yearling, like, as soon as you put the spurs to it,

it was at full speed. Whereas, like, on slow trap, I've got a, it probably takes me five seconds to get him to where he's at his full speed. So it was super clear to me the athleticism difference. Yeah. But yeah, I would say just being around the horses with the mules was interesting to me. Yeah. No, so, golly, I'm about to say something else that makes Dale look good.

We were riding through this big open area and Bear and I were. side by side and Dale and maybe you, Donnie, yeah, you and Carson were just up in front of us and a coyote runs across. We had a lot of action today. Man, coyotes, hogs. And this coyotes running out in this wide open field and Dale just put the spurs to him

and just took off after him. And we all knew what you were trying to do. You were going to try to rope this coyote. And, well, I knew you didn't have a chance, but it was fun watching you. But me and Baird, we took off after you. Well, there's always a chance. There's always a chance.

We got our mules loping. Also, I had a gun on me. Yeah, that's right. So, I mean, like, if I could have got close enough and then they always do that one look back, you know. And I don't know. I had already thought I had seen a coyote in the brush, like moments before that. And I was like, hmm, that'd be neat to see a coyote. And when you said coyote, I just immediately dug iron into my horses.

ribs and said let's go i just well i knew because i knew the first pig we we were going to let bear try to get with the bow but i just felt like everything else was probably fair game it was it was everything else it was expressly forbidden yearlings raccoons and coyotes i was going to go to and you did and you did when we were in texas that was the first time i saw people rope and coyotes like really being serious about it every time they saw one like seen some guys get pretty close i've got i've had one run through my loop too but like it's all flat there too yeah you could those guys can run one down and that rice and stuff yeah pigs too yeah that it's just weird because of their the way their head is shaped like they got to have

cutters for it to stop unless you get them in the belly rope them in the belly but like if you can get them around the head they've got to have the cutters to stop the rope from just sinking all the way down off their nose. Oh, yeah, because their neck just kind of shrinks down. Tell us, tell me a little bit about going to, was it Arizona, with Derek Begay? We talked about that a lot today because Andrew was talking about, like, having to catch calves that had been out on this kind of big piece of property. The main thing about it is, like, catching any of, like, the cows or, you. Or yearland bulls would have been, like, pretty much, like, I can remember one yearland that it went just like it did today on today's yearland.

Like, in Arizona. Start at the beginning, though. There are wild cows. Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess some people don't. Yeah. So, Arizona, there's reservations, large reservations that have wild cattle, and they can be, I mean, they say. say they're never going to run out.

Like he'll never catch him all. They're like wild animals. These reservations. Generational, generational and wild cattle. Yeah, they're just wild cattle. Like spook like elk. Why don't you let me tell this story?

So they have this wild cattle. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Well, it'll be like hundreds of thousands of acres with no fences. So yeah, the cattle just populate like an elk. And these reservations have, are divided up into, I think they call them ranches, and they'll be a ranch manager. And so I know some guys that know the ranch manager there,

and so what happens is they'll put together a team, and you can't just go any time, you can't go all the time. It's because you can't go too, you don't want to go too much in one area and just blow all the cattle out of there. So you may only go to a spot, like, maybe twice a year. and so you got to have permission and then you put together a team and you know the ranch manager's got to okay everything and he communicates with the res and then all the cattle they get taken out that team splits with the res so all the money you have to sell it you can't just take them home they have to be sold like at a certain sale barn

within a certain amount of days you know buy this and so and so and Anyway, they're just kind of like hunting parties. You know, it's just like what we're doing here. Exactly what we're doing here, except when we go out in the day, we just, we literally scout for mavarez. Did y'all camp when you were there? Yeah. So you camped out, you woke up every morning, you got binoculars. Yep.

You're like setting on high points, like glassing for cattle. And they got certain high points that they glass from every year and they all know it. And half the crew were Indians. The other half were just like random guys that worked on reservations or rodeoed in the area. But all handy. But what I was going to say was when I started, like the normal, like a Maverick cow or a yearland like what I found today, like that's all pretty standard for any state. Like, guys from Pennsylvania could catch these with no problem.

What was crazy and different to me out there was how handy these guys from Arizona were with, like, imagine just a full-grown buck and bull with full-grown horns not tipped on the hook. like those guys the way they would rope and tie down something like that as if it were a baby calf that's what was so impressive about the whole thing like the way they handled and it was like

it was like they wanted it to be on the side of a mountain with just sheer rock everywhere yeah that's the scary I mean that's like I'd be worthless you know they wanted it to be wild is the way they angled

I heard you say something today when you were talking about them you said they had no breaks yeah that's how they They just live life. But they, I mean, they see it as, and today, like, you get a big, you know, 1,600-pound herford bull. I mean, that's $3,000.

$2 a pound, essentially. So how many cattle might these guys catch? The last trip they went on, I was talking to one of the guys. When we were there, we caught 60 that week. This last trip, they went to a. Were you there a full week? Until Thursday? Until Thursday night.

When did you start? Monday morning. We got there Sunday night. Yeah, four full days. Okay. And he caught 60. They caught 76 this last trip. Well, over $100,000 worth the beef probably.

Yeah, yeah. And they split that and it goes, half of it goes to the, it goes to the, they're not doing this for, as a hobby. This is like, I mean, they do, they do like it. They do enjoy it. It's one of those seasonal type of incomes for them that is lucrative. Yeah. Yeah.

Right now. You can't just go. You've got to know the guy and you've got to be invited and you've got to have horses. You've got to have a truck and trailer. You've got to have. It's a specialized group of people. But, yeah, I mean, it's just like me being here right now. I can't just go.

Like, you've got to know the guy. I know Clay. So, and Andrew, Evan. So, yeah. Like you got to, and so that's how that is too over there. But he said it in our film and Derek did. He's like, if y'all do a good job with this, every kid in the country is going to want to catch Mavericks.

And that's what they've all said that, that like it is like there's been a interest grown in it. Yeah. But I think that, and Donnie is the one that film, them to edited it. Yeah, you were there, Donnie. What was your perception of the whole deal? It's the wildest thing I've ever been a part of.

The drive-in, the guys that we were with, they have no fear. Like, it's all gas, no brakes. It's just go to them. But I don't know. I've never been so desolate in my life. I don't even know how to explain it, but it was wild. So it was way in the back country. Way back.

Way back. It was the first, you felt like you were in the most remote place you'd ever been. Yeah. You were there. Yeah, and it might have not even actually been that far from, like, a town or something. But just to get there, it took us three and a half hours from paved road. Like, from the last paved road, we were driving three and a half hours. You know, it's interesting for me to hear y'all talk about these, these cowboys that were so skilled, all gas, no brakes, living on the edge, fearless.

you know, because, I mean, that's kind of the way when I watch you guys, I'm like, dang, these guys aren't afraid of nothing. No, I'm not nothing compared to these guys. I mean, you're a Bronc rider. You do some stuff. Do some stuff. Thank you, Evan. How did you forget that? No, and I was thinking about what it does to a human to be around people that are just on like another level than them.

And it's really powerful on anything. Like if you're a basketball player, if you're a songwriter probably, if you're a cowboy, if you're a hunter, like to be around people that, I mean, you just, you feel like inside of this, like your own head that there's a certain level of competency that's capable of a human. I mean, it's just like, I live in this little world and I am the absolute best that I can be at this thing I've dedicated myself to. And then you go somewhere and you meet somebody that's just like on a. another level. And all of a sudden, you have expanded your world, your capabilities, what you think is possible. Yeah, that's the thing, right? I think it's only, it's that environment, like, that they're in.

It's so harsh and so rugged and so rough that you have to be that or else you don't catch the cows. Like, they just go, and they're there to catch the cows. Even when they're not out in the mountains catching cows, like, You know, they're all number nine, number ten, team ropers. You know, like they're all like turning steers at rodeos in 5-1. And so that's fast. That's what I think that, that's what I think that, you know, if me and Donnie are picking on the guitar, there's a big difference between us and Evan because of his time behind the guitar.

and those guys time in the saddle in that terrain, your guys is time actually hunting, compared to, like, basketball, you know, Kobe Bryant's time on the court. I think that's like the main, you know, the work ethic and the time you dedicate to the, that's what would set. I like seeing guys in their element.

Like, you could, you might take those guys out of that space and maybe they wouldn't be extraordinary other things in life, but there, they're like, you know, that's their space. Yeah, seeing Derek Begay try to play golf would be funny. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's what I've always appreciated in the hunting space

is that there are guys that you'll never know their name, their accolades, their external accolades even aren't that great. But for their region and their county, or maybe they're corner of the county, they are the best on planet Earth for what is possible for what they do. For the area, yeah, and the species involved. And they take it just as serious as, you know,

as anybody would if they were trying to do something that might seem bigger and more robust. But, no, I like seeing people that are really good, you know, really specialized. And then connected to the land like these guys are, you know, like, I mean, just doing something. stuff that involves harsh terrain i mean in a lot of ways there's there's there's components that that are like just like hunting yeah sounds like that's why it was intriguing to me when i saw it

yeah and i watched the i watched the film when it came out a couple couple years ago what was it called it was a year ago catching mavericks or catching maverick cattle in arizona yeah but i did a podcast with derrick baguette i mean he's the he's the godfather out there and he's he's just yeah like the best human i'd done a podcast with him It was my longest ever podcast, four and a half hours. Like we just talked and talked. And, of course, I had a thousand questions about catching Mavericks. But that's how he described a week out there.

It's like a hunting party. I mean, just like what we have set up here. Yeah. You know, with the horses and, you know, TPs and eating in the mornings and evenings. And then you just go out and catch. And so. You need to watch that film, Bear. We'll do.

Yeah. That's pretty cool. How far would that have been from that, uh, Warner Glen, Clay? You know, is it in Southern Arizona? San Carlos Reservation. Yeah, Southern Arizona. Not exactly sure where that's at, but yeah, Warner Glen was... Globe?

Globe. Yeah, I think. Globe, Arizona. Warner Glen is near Douglas, Arizona, which is in the far southeast corner of Arizona. This is that direction, southeast. Yeah, it probably would be. Last spring, Clay Newcomb and I collaborated with Jason Phelps at Phelps game calls and building each of our own favorite turkey diaphragms called prime cuts.

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What's the wildest place venue you've played in? What do you mean? Like, what constitutes wild for a venue? Well, I was thinking, like, I can't believe we're in Ireland or I can't believe what, but I guess also. It's been a month in Sweden one time. Sweden. Yeah, that's not a really huge place to spend a month in. Yeah.

Texas size. Because they know the Turnpike Trooboers over there? They didn't then. You're just like playing on the street? Oh, no, we were playing it. We were indoors, but it was about that good. We had a few good shows, but we played, they had us playing in hotel lobbies, restaurants. It was, it was nuts.

What point in your career was that? That was about 10 years ago, 12 years ago. Probably. I bet that would be 2011, so it would be farther back now. Yeah. Yeah. What about wild in terms of like, man, we may have to fight our way out of here. Oh, there's a bunch of those.

There's been just bars in Oklahoma that were that way. It's just things get nuts, you know. We've had some nights at the Red Barn where it just, you never knew what was going to happen. Or you play someplace that's like just far enough off the beaten path that it's kind of druggy or something, you know, not knowing. Yeah. Over in Lawton or something like that, like Southwest Oklahoma? The VFW? Anywhere down there.

Don't even go down there. I'm telling you guys. Oh, I'm thinking Vanita. Yeah, Vanita's up northeast. Down around Lawton, down southwest. It can be pretty rough. Andrew, have you gone and watched them play a lot? I watched him at the Cains there before we were friends.

I went up there a couple, two or three times, and then we went and watched him at the, he got us tickets to the, what was that, paycom. And we really enjoyed it. It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. How did y'all meet then? Well, my father-in-law had a bull get out on him.

Yeah. And I just called him and wasn't even. Yeah, and we didn't even realize, you know, I didn't realize. You can just Google his phone number. Probably. Who he was, you know, at the time. And until he showed up.

You know, he said he wanted to come. You know, and so we said, heck, yeah. And he came. And, you know, it was a good surprise. Yeah, we've been buddies ever since then, and I just moved here then. And I didn't, I'd just come back from Texas. And I loved it down there, you know. I knew we needed to come back up here.

and I mean it's a good thing I'm happy to be here and I'm getting to build something that's really great but I was kind of down in the dumps about it and then we came out to this place that we went today and with you and Dustin

and then that first time and I was catching those cori-cats and stuff and I was like this is it's not going to be so bad this is good living here? Yeah like getting to do all this stuff like there's some real

so you moved here without knowing people like Andrew Yeah, I didn't know anybody My parents live here, you know Yeah But as far as like the people that Ranch and they work and cowboy and stuff I didn't know anybody

I just assumed you had some connections around here Mm-mm Mm-mm And you're gonna start putting on team ropings I hear? Maybe Probably That sounds like some work Yeah

If it's a lot of work We would just do something else We'll just rope. We'll just use it for personal use. Yeah. Well, man, it's been, so we're here just for a day and a half, two days, and riding mules, hog hunting. Killed two hogs today.

Man, it's been an awesome time. It's been a lot of fun. Yes, sir. And at some point, some of this stuff will be out on some YouTube channel. channels. Maybe. We'll see. Oh, yeah. We'll see.

No, they will be. We're not sure exactly where ours is going to go, but it's possible that it's going to go on the Bear Grease channel, which you guys have heard us talk about by now. And which bears leading up everybody's. We had our first video come out this week that me and Bear did on, and it's the former bear hunting magazine YouTube channel, which says, set dormant for the last five years. And we cranked her back up. And at the time we're recording this podcast, it was a week ago. Yeah.

Right? Yeah. Yeah. Last Wednesday. A week ago. And so, anyway, we're cranking that back up. That's exciting. I'm excited for you.

Yeah, I think it's going to be good. As I was saying, you guys have interesting lives. What's our time, Josh? 45. Oh, man. Okay. Well, we can, we can, Dale, where can, what are you excited about? What do you want to, what do you want to tell people to go check out that you're doing right now? Kind of a closer. Man, I just love getting to do, same thing you do, and you and Bear. I've got my podcast. We released a podcast Monday and Wednesday. and then we do two vlogs a week.

On YouTube. Yeah, the one on my channel, it's called Rodeo Time. Just released my 479th episode. And then we have another one that a guy at the warehouse, Kevin is in charge of, and we've done 17 episodes of Heavy Ranchin. It's what we call it. It's on the Rodeo Time channel.

And so anyhow, that's just my passion. and I just get to do fun stuff like this, you know, buck bulls, buck stock, and make videos about it. Or just talk to interesting folks. And so it's the best life I could have ever dreamt up. So that's what my passion is. The content's everywhere, but YouTube is where it starts. That's where it starts. Awesome.

Evan, what are you excited about, man? Where can we go find the best of Evan Felker? Oh, man, we are just touring all over the U.S. this year. We've got a, you know, we've got a show, we're doing a pheasants forever show in Minneapolis. I was there last year. Yeah, with Dave Simonette from Trampled by Turtles. Yeah. He's a big bird hunter, and we're getting to do more and more stuff like that.

But, I mean, all our stuff's on our website, and we're playing a bunch of shows, just getting and doing more of the new songs and then been back in the studio doing another record and um when's that come out hopefully this year you know um that's that's the plan for sure and uh it looks real possible so do you know the dates of the pheasant fest um i think it is uh i know it is thursday we play it on Thursday in Minneapolis. Yeah. After tomorrow. Oh, this week.

Yeah. Oh, I was thinking it was like in March. No. No, that's the shows this week. It's this week. Awesome. Awesome. So you're not going.

I am not going. I was there last year. I spoke at their banquet last year there at Fescent Fest. It was in Kansas City. But no, I heard you were going. That's going to be awesome. Oh, that's going to be awesome. Yeah, and getting to do a bunch of cool stuff like that,

I think Steve's maybe going to come and We're going to try to shoot some turkeys in April, and then... Yes. A bunch of ranch and stuff, you know. Yeah. And stuff like that. So Evan had a... Evan and Steve have a video on the Meat Eater main YouTube channel.

It's got a million views on it. Oh, nice. And they went to Alaska. Oh. Yeah, they killed... Didn't you kill two bears up there? Yeah, we each tagged out. They flew in and bear hunted.

Yeah, that was cool. That was cool. Donnie, closing thoughts. Where can we watch you buck a, buck on a horse? Well, first off, you can watch it on the Dale Brisby YouTube channel because it's on there a lot. But just rodeos all over Texas. You never know where you might. You never know where you're going to find you.

Yep. Yep. Yep. Bear, closing thoughts. What do you think of these guys? Pretty cool guys, I would say. It's been fun. hanging out with y'all and uh we've had a good hunt so far now we just need to get a big one yes we do

so i was hoping that hanging out with all you guys would influence bears decision in the shoes that he wears these these shoes are good he's wearing crispy boots i mean those are like legit hiking boots but but bear typically wears like white converse not not converse and That's exactly. Nike Blazers. This podcast is sponsored by Decovas. I wear Chuck Taylor's. I like Chuck Taylor. So, but Barry, so anyway, just think about it.

I mean, just look around. Look at Donnie Daytona. Look at Dale Burns. I'll tell you. I'll tell you what it has. Now, Andrew. Andrews got tissues on. I wear a CV slip on shoes all the time.

If I'm not wearing cowboy boots, if I'm not riding, these things aren't made to walk in. Yeah. I'll tell you what. What opinion it has changed has been on how big mule I want. Oh, you want a bigger meal? Yeah, I rode one of Justin's big mules yesterday, and it made me realize what I'm missing on a little old slow trip. I hear you.

What you want a big mule for? Well, faster, bigger, faster, stronger? The gate is way better. Slow troughs a little bit. Yeah, it's a little rough. Can we interest you in a quarter? quarter horse. You probably would like a horse.

I mean, most of the things we do, a horse would be great. I mean, it's the truth. There's some gnarly situations where, like, a little thin-bone horse like I'm riding today would not be very fun or would not be very good. I've been meaning to bringing this up, and I know we're teasing everybody out that we're closing down. So we're closing down, but I'm going to say one last thing. I meant to say this at the very beginning, Dale, with bears saying how fast your horses was and how good they all did today.

I mean, most of what I do would absolutely be just as good or better on a horse. But we went to Utah back in December, me and Justin House, and we rode with McLean and Hunter Meekam and Ty Evans. And we put 80 miles, like legit clocked 80 miles in five days on meals. And we were hardly on a trail. And we were in like some of the roughest stuff in Utah. And we rode the same mules every day. And it was unreal.

I'd never been a part of that much riding and that short of time and that rough a country. Your mules are theirs? We were riding theirs. I mean, we were at elevation out there. And yeah, I... You'd want something legged up. I knew... If I had brought my meal, she'd have done good for three days.

Right, correct. And would have been... I think she'd have been done. But... And one of the mules was 25 years old. Dang. One of the mules, like, on day five, I said, man, how old is that mule? McLean and he's like that meal's 25

but they but that's where I think you at the extremes of like difficult terrain do that would a meal probably there's a reason people have them yeah you know I mean there ain't no joke yeah I like them yeah

yeah in country like this I see where a horse is beneficial open stuff today I feel like today was horse territory yeah yeah it was yeah and the Ozarks the mountains, the rough stuff, I feel like I could see where the mule comes in handy. Yeah.

Yep. But, yeah. Andrew, closing thoughts? Doesn't mean, I'm not going to make fun of you. Oh, that's all right. Man, I'm just thankful to be here and get to go with you guys. And I'm just glad to be here. Well, thanks for helping us put this together, man.

Yes, sir. It was a pleasure. All right. Is that all, Josh? We done? All right. Thanks, guys. Keep the wild places wild.

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