Bedros Keuilian Podcast Show - 191 - Self Mastery Is Key To Manifestation

Episode Date: July 8, 2021

“Create the man you admire, then gift that man to the world!” Wes Watson returns with Bedros, this time here at HQ’s In House Studio for another amazing sit down. They go deep on Wes’ childhood, the idea of creating the ideal man, work ethic and locating the issues inside yourself, then giving the honest solutions that got you from point A to point B. 00:33 - Welcome back Wes Watson! 01:16 - Who is the REAL Wes Watson? 02:58 - Bedros asks Wes to take us through his journey starting from his childhood 07:23 - What would Wes say is happening with the new generation? 09:32 - How low energy is a result of living a “messy” life, and how to fix it 11:43 - What do you do with old friends who want to fit into your new life but simply don’t 13:21 - Compression vs. Compassion 20:10 - When Bedros and Wes connected and how they practiced “financial maturity” 21:39 - Showing up as a Role Model 24:41 - Wes’ choice to be a mentor 27:53 - Wes explains the California prison system and the correlation to our current state of society 36:22 - The Wes Watson morning routine and daily schedule 47:38 - Deep dive into Wes Watson’s coaching and businesses 55:23 - What fatherhood means for Wes Watson 58:45 - What marriage and being a husband means to Wes Watson and Bedros 1:06:10 “Love” is a VERB Connect with Wes Watson https://www.weswatson.com https://www.facebook.com/watsonfit760/?tn-str=k*F https://twitter.com/wes_watsonfit?lang=en https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWUxLYGeeIKxxioUqL54Q8g https://www.instagram.com/watson_fit/?hl=en   Connect with Bedros Keuilian:   Instagram https://www.instagram.com/bedroskeuilian/ Facebook

I came from absolutely below the bottom. Three years. Now I'm living the dream life out of my creation of pure alignment, like self-mastery. The man who has a certain level of self-mastery will manifest anything that he can visualize. America's most famous felon, West Watson, second time around on the Empire show. What's up, brother? Yeah, we're back. We're back.

Thank you for joining us. And this time you're in the studio because you are not on parole anymore. Last time we were on paper, so we had to, he had to come down to my pad. He just drove up like any other dude, just came straight to the condo. That was shot that right in the pad. Pro officer was texting me that day. Like, hey, you got to come, I got to come see you, come be in this cup. Did you ever end up going that day?

No, I mean, I put it off to the next day. He actually gave me a pass. I told him to look you up. I'm like, look him up. He's coming down. This is going to further my career. Help me out here. And he gave me a pass that day.

That's awesome. That's great. So I appreciate you coming down to the studio here in Chino Hills. For those of you that don't know Wes Watson, what, you know what? I'm going to let you introduce yourself. You're such a tremendous job. Who are you? What do you do?

And how do you do it? Okay, Wes Watson, GP Penitentiary Life YouTube channel, 55 million plus views. And the thing is, I was incarcerated for 10 years around people that just were horrendous, myself being one of them. And they just made me sick. So I, instead of hating on them consistently, plagued with this negative self-talk about the people I was around, I literally decided to fucking change them, these murderers, these dope dealers, the worst of people to get through to them,

build self-worth inside of them, self-respect so we can all get out alive. Because if you don't know anything about the California CDC system, we all go down if you go down. And that was the reality. That's what started all this. I spoke the same way on my GP Penitentiary Life YouTube channel. the same way I speak on there, I spoke on the yard to these men and built them up. So I knew that I couldn't change it once I came out. It was too effective. Too effective. And that effectiveness has spilled literally over to millions of people that you've impacted,

not only through your, I guess I'm going to say your passionate, aggressive, self-development teachings that you do on YouTube and now Instagram, but in addition to your business, which we'll dive into in just a second. But, you know, when we did part one of this, which was over a year ago, I believe, it was more of an interview style. And this is going to be more conversational because I've kind of been digging and getting people to tell me like, hey, what would you ask Wes? And because I know what I want to know, right? And so with that said, you started off as a kid in San Diego, parents, you know, they have a working household, et cetera. started off there, how life started as a young man, because I want to take that journey

and how you ended up into prison and then the pivot point of how you end up doing what you're doing here and then we'll pick up from there. So, I mean, my parents were just, my parents were good parents. They, I mean, we lived lower middle class. My dad was a construction worker. My mom cut hair until she finally just couldn't take it no more. Carpal tunnels set in and shit. But the reality was.

I just, I wanted more. I thought we were worth more. I was embarrassed of our financial state. I was embarrassed of my own physique. So I compensated with trying to attain financial success at a young age by selling weed. I mean, at first I started smoking weed, probably to dole the fact that I didn't like my body. And I was like, fuck, like, this makes me feel comfortable. And we don't know at that age. And our parents are feeding us dog shit. They don't know. They don't know proper macro nutrient intake. And so I've set out now to be the man I needed. Not saying my dad wasn't because my dad was a savage. He was a fucking man's man.

That dude, they're like big can fuck. Like what? 6-4, 270, 22's on the hang, construction worker, fucking heels cracked from just his boots soaked all day working stucco in construction plastering. And he was a man's man. He worked, his work ethic is what stuck with me. He never took a day off. He worked every day and he loved it because he was the motherfucker on that yard when they were working.

He always was. They're like, nobody fucks with that dude. And so, I mean, we grew up that way, but they didn't know that they weren't hip to what we know now. And what we know now is to create the man you admire and give him to the world. That's what I say our life's purposes. Creation of the man you admire and then give that man to the world. But what do we do first? we locate our pain inside and then we find the solution in us and make sure people around us aren't falling to this pain.

And this was alcoholism, this was eating incorrectly to not have the confidence we wanted. I wish these things that I know now someone was able to teach me. So that's my pursuit to everybody out there is to literally locate the true pain I've known my whole life and give the honest solutions of what got me from point A to point B. But the thing was is I did start smoking weed to dole how I felt. It started smoking. Then I started slaying and I wanted to smoke for free. And then I swear by 16, I bought a brand new truck off the lot.

Because I had been studying my credit score from 14 to 16. Like, oh, I'm going to finance this shit. I'm going to get this car. And then they told me you had to be 18. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, can I just buy it cash? And I did. They were tripping on me.

It was like 40 Gs at 16. I've been ahead of the game with all that stuff for a very long time. just because I will not be denied. I'm not going to be denied. All right. So you've got your dad's work ethic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a beast.

But you've got, you had this taste, this desire for great stuff. Yeah. And I think there's nothing wrong with that. I think money is a vehicle to freedom, to impact, and opportunity and experiences. And I want my kids to experience life at a higher level than I ever have. And also to have a higher level of impact that I've ever had. That said, you said, but I started smoking weed to dull the pain of the body that you had, looking back, do you realize that?

Or did you know that in the moment? I didn't know it in the moment. I know it now. Okay. So looking back. Yeah, I just didn't realize. I was just didn't, I wasn't fat or nothing like really bad, but I just had slight fat on my chest, slight fat on my gut. And I didn't realize, I was embarrassed to how thick my forearms were when I was a kid.

Like they were real thick at the wrist and I had big forearms. Now it became one of my biggest assets. So all you guys out there who are embarrassed of body parts of yours realize when you get the proper macronutrient intake, and someone dials them in for you, you are going to realize that the parts that seem misshaping once the fat comes off, these are going to be your best ones. And that's what happened with this too. Like I was embarrassed to speak on camera. And then once I finally did it, became my biggest strength. Under your weaknesses is your biggest strength. If you put the fucking work in, if you put the work in, it's all there, right? In your weakness. And so looking at

today. Today's 2021. Let's say we've got the young generation 16 to 24 25 year olds. The entire young generation of 16 to 24 25 year olds sitting in front of us. Seeing what you see in the world with how lost they are, how confused they are, what do you think is happening to them? You know what it is. You sent me that book, write a passage, write a fucking passage. I wouldn't have turned to getting validation from these other drug dealers or even from people from my stuff. I have. I have have some stuff now, but I don't really go floss it. I don't go drive around, hang out in front of places and be like, look at my Rolls Royces. I just fucking enjoy my shit. And it's a necessary evil when it comes to corporate America. But the thing is, is that really, back then I was seeking massive approval

from people I shouldn't have. And it got me in a lot of fucking hot water. And these kids, they're ending up in prison for that same fucking reason. Their parents are not giving them a right of passage correctly typically the fucking fathers they're not showing them hey man i'm the one doing that for all these lost kids from every age you know that right you see that from 22 to 52 to 62 i'm giving them a right of passage motherfucker you get up early you take pride in that wake up time there's no negative self-talk there's only gratitude for this life you've been given the second you rise yes you take care of your body because we don't disregard something that's such a gift and expect people to love us for something we've trashed that's crazy that's crazy

a successful man who trashes his physique and talks about gratitude and talks about success and all this shit. I'm like, are you missing this, bro? But anyways, and then just with love, love's a verb. I mean, the self-love we cultivate inside of ourselves through self-investment is the only way we'll be able to exchange it at the same rate. People don't understand that. They let their body fall apart and like expect their partner to still love them when they don't even respect themselves, love themselves at all. I mean, there's higher forces at play. Universal language is energy exchange.

And when we have low energy, no one's attracted to that shit. And low energy is, what I found is lower energy is most created when you're living in a disastrous situation. You look at someone who's got a messy car where their cars are mess, it's uncapped, it's, they're distracted, they're literally distracted drivers. And so if you're living in a messy body where your emotions are fucked up, up your mindset is fucked up your health the way you look in the mirror you look and you're not happy with what you see you're going to treat the world that way like the outer image is the outer image is literally a mirror of what's happening within yeah your your perspective of me is a reflection of you i mean the way we view the world is a secret confession of character anyone who hates the

world i think we know a lot about themselves and you can literally it's moment by moment though people think it's like oh you you hate the world you hate yourself and that's you for sure. No, you can turn it around. When you start to love yourself, when you start to cultivate that self-respect, you see love and respect in others. It's moment by moment. I will literally, if I even go out of alignment with my thoughts, actions, or energy that day, because everything's about alignment. If I go out of alignment and I start to hate on myself, then I automatically check myself and realize that I'm probably going to, I'm more than likely going to project that on to people. The second I'm failing, I'm projecting them as failures. So, I mean, people get my

messes misconstrued because sometimes I do that, but it's in the form of love. Like, they're so capable. They're so capable because how the fuck would I not believe that? I came from absolutely below the bottom. Three years. Now I'm living the dream life out of my creation of pure alignment, like self-mastery. The man who has a certain level of self-mastery will manifest. anything that he can visualize. And so I had this vision. I created this level of self-mastery, otherwise known as fucking discipline,

and then just manifested that through the daily steps of alignment. My thoughts, actions, and energy were aligned with the outcome I want, and I would not fail. I would not take a day off. I would not break. Because breaking was more painful

than anything. It just... Let me stop you right there. What happens? Because you nailed something. What happens if someone from your past comes and finds you and goes, bro, you're different.

You've changed. I don't know, man. How do they, how does someone deal with someone like that? When it comes to finances, it's like, I am different. When I had no money, you never used. No, actually, you're different. When I had no money, you never used to ask me for any. No, I'm just kidding. But, but no, but the change is, it's a different energy. We're on a different, we're operating from a different vibration. And so you make them feel uncomfortable. Well, I'm talking by way of confidence. It could be confidence. It could be money. It could be physique. It could be in any way, just the way you're outspoken. And if you weren't then and you

are now that they say you're different. What do you do with an old friend that may not fit into your life now but wants to fit in? Well, I just, I know there's two types of people on your level up. There's the people you make inspired, the people you make insecure. And the insecure people are going to need, it's literally the insecure people are going to need more compassion. And the people who are inspired by you are going to, they're going to thrive from compression. So it's the equal amount of compassion versus compression. The people, who really do know you from back then, they're projecting their in a,

their inabilities towards you. So then the way to work with them is to be compassionate, sandwich that shit, fucking tell them something good about them, tell them what they need to change, hit them with another good thing. So compassion works with those people who are confrontational. But with the people who are hard like me and you are like,

fucking tell me what I need to change so I can level up. Those people work with compression very well. So that's why my content is. playing compression for those who don't understand it. Hard truce. So hard, hard truce. Like you can fucking tell them. They feed off it. They're like, that's why my content breeds such a different client.

Like when your content is hard truce, you don't have to call to your client. They're like, fucking tell me, Wes, I'm fucking ready. And those are why I get those people who are so ready. And my transformations on Watson underscore fit on IG. I mean, they're the best in the game. Because literally these people come in wanting it. They're not to be coddled.

But then I get the ones. And they're usually the most roughest exteriors. They're usually the toughest guys. They're usually the most outspoken that need the compassion versus a compression. They haven't been made fun of. They've got their way too much. They're too soft. What do you prefer delivering?

Compression or compassion? I really love compression. That's my forte. But I like compassion now because it's harder. And I've just conditioned my mind to think what's harder is better. So, I mean, I've learned to just find comfort and discomfort. When did you start doing that? Fuck.

It was just in the penitentiary. It was through myself talking, the penitentiary when times would get rough. Then I would just literally feed off not getting my way. Like take pleasure and not being pleased at a sickening level. The door's not opening for a year. I'm not going to step out. And I'm just waiting for these pussies, these bitches to crack. I'm like, listen to them.

They ain't got no coffee and they're already crying. I'm going to do some more burpees and more push-ups. I thrive off of this. And at that point, I was still sharking on them and I hadn't realized that they, they were actually going to be my life's purpose, those individuals. Because I was sitting there sharking on them still. But at one point I flipped it and I realized that when I finally healed my trauma, that was going to be the prerequisite to my purpose. Is that the flipping point is when you started working on your trauma?

When I healed my trauma, healed myself, I saw that the solution I found there was literally, the it was a problem being solved to the greatest complexities known to man, us, us. Why were in our own fucking way? Everybody would be so ripped, rich and where they want to be if they weren't in their own fucking way. They've all made enough money.

They've all fucking, they've all done enough physical activity to look how they want to look. But what happened? The instant gratification got in the way. They, so many soft men choosing instant gratification over inspiration. It's sickening.

Like, I would rather be an inspirational figure than get my way any day of the week. And then guess what? When you choose to be inspirational over insid gratification, you get it from all ends. Because when you give more than you take, you get more than you gave. This is just how it works. So to that point then, in prison, if I remember correctly, it was a couple, two, three years in. Because up until that point, you were pretty bitter.

Oh, bitter as fuck. Like still using drugs, bitter as fuck. So how do you go from that and sharking on those around you that are in solitary confinement to having compassion for them and realizing that they're your purpose and you're going to serve them? It was selfish. Like that's a flip of a switch, bro. Yeah, I can't lie. It was selfish.

At first, okay, every endeavor we pursue starts off immature and ends up maturing. So this endeavor started off very immature. I was very selfish about it. I was like, fuck, I'm making myself insane with hatred for these people. How am I going to change this? I had to find a way to respect them. So that's how everything got created. I'm like, I just, I can't lie.

So I have to create men. I love and respect right here by getting through to them, making them do the work. So I could be cured of my just massive internal anguish that I was creating for myself by hating on people because I don't give a fuck. They are wrong. Who gives a fuck? But still the hatred corrupts you. The resentment. I mean, it just corrupts you. Resentment is like drinking poison and wishing the other would die. I'm resenting these motherfuckers for being who they are when I see the light and I can change them. Too many people do that. Too many successful people. They just teach from an elevated standpoint and hate on people below them. And they don't realize they're corrupting every moment of so many lost moments that could be complete

clarity to negativity and just being ungrateful and hatred and low vibrating emotions. I learn to just saturate right there. So anytime I'm inconvenience, anytime I have negative thoughts, anytime I go ungrateful, I magnify that second and I say, this is my time to shine. And I pull myself up and I'm as grateful as I can be at that moment, as loving as I can be at that moment, and I exercise who I really am at that moment, because at that moment, that's who the fuck you really are. You're not who you are when everything's going your way. You're who you are when that motherfucking cell door slams and ain't opening for a year, and you got everything taken away. Who are you then, motherfucker? All these tough guys out here would pee on their balls,

straight cry baby motherfuckers. And like literally, at that moment, I learned to be like, show who you are right now to yourself, motherfucker. And then through learning that, and exercising this forever. I'm like, I have to teach these men this because it's so fucking empowering. So how do you teach them? I'm just like, like, so take us into the prison system for a moment. How do you teach them when they're cells apart?

No one sells opening up for you. You have to personify the teaching for others to wish to learn, but they would see my feet in the window doing handstand pushups before they're up. Got it. They would hear me sounding off outside of the door, like sounding off for my people, you know? And then I'm telling them, hey, Dego West cell 123 sounding off.

for my daily routine and I'm telling everyone I'm working out again and then I'm working out again and I'm working out again and even in solitary in the shoe you go to the cages and we came out to the cages it was a different level of veins and muscle popping that these soft-ass motherfuckers didn't know like they worked out but they didn't understand how to track their food and withhold instant gratification when that brownie was on the tray they'd oh they would trade their meat for the brownie I'm there take all the sweets take all the carbs I'm eating just meat and I'm going to train triple this hard until I just got fucking diced. And then when I get diced and I get some canteen, I would reverse diet.

And I'd properly write down all my macros as best as I could with the measurements I had and the foods that I had to be able to reverse diet, cut myself down and even reverse diet while in prison. Just a deep understanding. Let me just, let me just catch everyone up if they missed that. You were trading out your desserts and your sweets and your carbs and stuff for the meats on their plate just to get enough protein to be able to train and get jacked in prison. So when a motherfucker out here says, I don't have access to a gym because it's corona, it's locked down,

I don't have money to get a gym membership, I don't have money to get enough protein. That's all a fucking excuses. They're all fucking excuses. Literally like, I mean, I can find a way for anybody to make it happen. When I got out, I was still, when you called me the first time, I'm like, holy shit, I tell my boy, this dude, bedros call me, this dude's a fucking legend.

This dude's a mogul. What the fuck? It's about to start cracking. and we're about to, we're planning the interview. I was still living at my grandma's house, living off canned chicken, and making six figures a month. That's what motherfuckers don't see.

They don't realize I lived on a twin bed, making six figures a month for four months on end, stacked up about $400,000 to $500,000. Before I even moved out, I didn't even tell anyone I was making this money. I'd even tell it when I still ate canned chicken, I'd even buy a car till I had over $3.50. Like, I'd even buy my first car.

I hadn't had a car for, fucking 10 years in prison and then about a year and a half after that then I got my first car and I had well over 300 grand before I even bought the fucking first car and didn't even tell my family that I was making any money because I... By choice or

you thought you were going to go back or what was the reason No the reason it was is I just literally knew from previous I have financial maturity like I've gained money and lost it I had a lot of money before I went to prison and that that gained my financial maturity like I'm not doing that a fucking gin

So this time I'm like, I'm getting so far ahead before I spend money that I'm never going to fail again. Like I have such a cushion on all my shit. People may see on Instagram the purchases I make and stuff. I'm fucking light years ahead of what you think I'm doing. So I mean, the point was just I knew that I have to take care of everybody because they don't see the route I see. So I have to be so far ahead that I can even take care of them if they fail. They would sink me because they don't understand. They see a million dollars and they think it's a bad.

billion dollars like literally a million goes quick when you got 150 plus k a month in business expenses i mean so so to that point what i'm hearing you say is that you were a role model before you were actually a mentor to these guys when they're seeing your feet in the window and you're doing handstand push-ups when they see you doing a second workout when you're calling out roll call and what you're really doing is you're showing up as a role model and everyone who says that hey i want a coach i want a mentor i want to inspire people all you motherfuckers out there who say you guys want to inspire people, inspire through being a role model first before putting up a goddamn sales page and trying to sell something. Fuckers. Go on. Literally, personify the teaching and others will wish to

learn. Personify the teaching and others will wish to learn. I was branding myself in prison. I was like, I'm going to make the guy this guy they would listen to. Oh, when my coaching calls the other day, about a 52 year old guy goes, hey, Wes, my nephew won't listen to me. What do I do? I say, I said, get him up. And I get him in front. I said, what the fuck? I said, bro, I wouldn't fucking listen to you. Why do you think he would listen to you?

I said, motherfucker, do you even listen to you? Most of you guys don't even listen to you and you want people to listen to you? What the fuck is that? Wake up every day with goals and plans and fucking piss them down the drain. I do not do that. And that's why I'm successful. Woke up at 2.45 a.m. for the last 13 years straight without fail. without fail. That's the corners. Literally that self-mastery from that. Like literally,

all these small daily wins, like we've said, that we stack to literally boost us every day to just tell ourselves that, nah, I'm not fucking stopping. This is how we defeat our greatest weaknesses. You want to defeat alcoholism? Wake up early. Have five fucking meals a day that are based on purpose over pleasure, workout in a manner that's based on your fucking health over fucking. want to go kick back on the couch, like 10 wins a day stacked based on purpose over pleasure. And then by the time, that loss that you take at night, which is going and getting fucking shit-faced with your buddies comes, you're going to be so strong that you're going to choose purpose over pleasure again.

And you're going to be able to defeat that weakness because you've chosen to be strong all day. Boom. Boom. And so let's shift gears for a moment. As we're going through prison and you realize that, holy fuck, man, I'm going to be. I'm going to work on me first. It's the most selfish thing I can do. And that is the most selfish thing we got it.

You got to work on you first because if you're someone's drowning and you're going to save them, you better be a strong swimmer. You better know how to hold your breath underwater. And if you don't have your shit squared away, then there's going to be two people drowning and when you attempt to save them. And so you go, all right, I'm going to be selfish first, work on me first. All of a sudden you start being a role model. They see it.

They probably start asking questions. Maybe some of them start doing it. Maybe you start seeing their feet up in that window. At what point do you make an active choice. I'm going to mentor these guys in prison and take druggies and murders and help them see the light. I literally did it so selfishly like you're saying. I was so bad that I could not be around 200 motherfuckers. Because then once we get out of the shoe, we go to a block, you know.

And then that block was like a 270 block. It's a certain shape of a building in the CDC system. Where was that one at? This was at Centinella. So Sentinel, 270 block, level four yard. and you come out and everyone's working out, but no one's really getting what they're doing. But at this point, I'm talking the way I talk on my YouTube channel to everybody,

and I'm putting myself in harm's way, and they're seeing what it is. They're seeing it. They're like, no one ever cared about me this much, Wes. I know that you're putting your ass on the line for even talking to me like this. Like, I could fucking just go make a piece and come cut your fucking head off. And these are hard motherfuckers that will. But they're like, dude, you would risk that much for me? They saw the underlying issue because in prison, your emotions are heightened.

Everything you know is heightened. It's not this superficial bullshit out here where you could just lie and be like, hey, fuck, why are you talking to me that way? It's because you got a little dick or whatever the fuck people do. Like they just want to make up a lie because they're uncomfortable. People in prison are like, wait, why is he talking to me this way? damn this motherfucker wants me to change and they saw it

and so once they saw that you want them to change and you woke up every day before them like you're personifying the teaching to a T you're up before them reading they see that and they just see it over and over and over and over and over again and you never crack once again being a role model

over being a coach that's that's the difference being a role model over a coach and I'm not a Christian and I don't believe that there's a man in the sky and the beard judging my fate But I'll tell you this, Jesus lived more as a role model than as a coach. He told less people what to do. Instead, he did. And they saw.

Gives me a chills right there. That's the difference. And you can go back all those years, all the way to now, the role models are the ones who enact change. So with that said, let's talk about some of the shit that you have to deal with an experience in prison because, quite frankly, you were a really good athlete, great surfer, skater, snowboarder, right? Yeah, yeah. Sponsored. Yeah, I traveled to the world.

I went to Tokyo a few times, Shibuya, Tokyo. Traveled around. I was in Bear Mountains videos, the park videos. I actually had parts and was sponsored by a lot of people, electric, mathematics, a bunch of other companies. And with some of the top people, traveled to Tokyo with Rom Clamper, Mike Burton, some big-name people. And that young man. That young man finds himself in prison and finds himself like in the California State. prison system where it's very different it's highly segregated it works best when it's highly segregated

gangland yeah it's gang land it's gangland you're in a gangland you're in a gang when he comes in it don't matter do you have a choice explain that to our friends here i mean like b would have to be a south sider or roll with the others i mean but you probably have to go south side you know and it's just like most most like armenians and middle eastern and anyone like that they they either go other or or with Southside Mexicans, because Mexicans take anyone, and they might get pissed, but they take everybody, because they're numbers game. Nobody fucking runs more than the Southside Mexicans in prison, South Siders.

They run it. And the white boys are part, there's a split down the day room. Here's the day room. On this side of the day room, there's Paises, white boys, and Southsiders. White boys are called Woods, you know. So Paises, which is Mexicans from Mexico, and then South Siders, Mexican-American gangs, and then there's the woods, the white boys.

That's on this side. The other side of the dayroom is the blacks, the others, the Northerners, and, yeah, that's about it. And so when you've got that divide, what happens to say on the yard when ball rolls over there? Oh, you just don't even grab it. They just, they got to, you don't cross the boundary line and they got to throw it back over to you.

What happens if you cross the boundary line? Oh, you ain't doing it. Like literally, you're going to. get smashed. Like, there's war right there. I mean, so I mean, everything is boundary lines. Like, there's, you'll go in the day room, it'll be like, these are the whites tables over here. These are the blacks, others and northerners tables over here. And we don't intermingle. These are the showers for you guys. These are our showers. These are our sinks. Those are your toilets. We, you don't walk this way. You don't go that way. And I mean, everything is like that for a reason

because, like, and you can't intermingle. You don't sit on another, you don't sit on the people from the other side day you don't sit on their rack you don't you can the only thing you can buy off him is drugs really but i mean the thing is that's that's how sicting the system is but um you you can't really trade much lower levels sometimes cds and you could like buy stuff off them and shit but um it's segregated like that it's for a reason because it's just like it's just got to be that way for for fucking that there's too many wrecks as individuals so to govern races as a whole it's a lot easier than to just let it be a melee. So explain that because the point I'm trying to make here is everyone made such a big deal in terms of the crisis of lockdown during 2020 of the coronavirus.

And listen, I'm the first to tell you that I think it was overplayed by the government, that it was fucking bullshit, that small businesses did not have to die the way they did. But so many people got emotionally so hung up and wrecked their own lives versus having their lives wrecked by the fucking system who did this. Yet, The entire prison system is designed of segregation, off control, even what, I remember last time you were telling me about the driveways. And I was like, bro, what the fuck is a driveway? Yeah, you can't walk in a certain way. You can't walk in a cell, you said, a certain way.

Your rack area. So like in like a day room, there'll be like, say there's a white rack right here and a black rack right here. Well, the black rack would come over this driveway and the white rack uses this driveway, even though we're basically sleeping right next to each other. If you whipped your arm over far enough, you'd hit the motherfucker sleeping. Like, that's how close you're living in that close to quarters. And the point I'm trying to drive here is that even in a scenario like that, with massive amounts of oppression, there's another way to put it. Yeah.

Like, the prison system is high levels of oppression. Because then you got shot callers who are also oppressing the dudes in their own fucking race, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's all about drugs. It's drug politics. So, I mean, whatever... You're not the only one that came out successful and ability to mentor, et cetera. us. My point is. Very few made it. Yeah, very few made it. Exactly. Very few made it. But you're a

byproduct of the system because you made a deliberate decision. Yeah, simply because like, when the material world falls around you, the spiritual world is awakening. And people don't realize like all answers are abundant when attached to infinite intelligence. And so literally, I spent all that time within just really listening to my conscience. And so I've come up with like a coin phrase conscience congruency. And I just. really followed my conscience. I mean, most cultures refer to it as the authentic voice of God, the voice of creation, but it's infallible. The conscience is the only incorruptible thing about us. And so, I mean, once I just really learned to live by my conscience, I started expelling

everything that wasn't in alignment with it. And so I came up with like a coin phrase of mind. I don't really, I said nothing's my phrase. I don't ever put really quotes on myself. Sometimes the people who run my ads and stuff do, but I just, I give all praise to the universe. to wherever it's coming from, this message is coming from. And it's, I'm saying, I'm not saying, I'm the deliver of this message. You know, I'm a good, I'm not a good speaker. I'm not a good writer. I'm not a good anything.

I'm a good listener. And I listen to my conscience and my conscience tells me what to say. But the thing was is like literally, once I learned to live in a conscience congruent manner, I came up with something called regret is your guideline. So anything you regret in your life must be removed. And then just standing from the fucking mirror. Your conscience is going to tell you. every move you must make.

Got to drop these 15 pounds. Drop them. It's just you're aligning with your vision, the way you see yourself the 10.0 you. Like the only true grateful state is flow state in the state of creation where time doesn't exist. So I mean, inner peace is the only state we're conducive in,

but everybody lives in a forward state of projection, which is anxiety, or a backward state of negative projection, which is, or negative recollection, which is depression. So they're either depressed or anxious and they don't realize action alleviates anxiety. So the work, the work is the gift, the work instills the worth in your life. And so if you're always working to create that vision, as I have been, every single moment of every day for the last 13 years,

I've created what I believe and I know I'm being told to be because above is creating speakers down here to get through to people. To get through to everyone down here, the universe has created. creating speakers that can guide us correctly. And I don't know, I don't, you may see a Jesus tattoo. I don't know what is, I don't know what religion or care what one you identify with or anybody, but I just know I'm being spoken to. I know I am. The universal consciousness is not lie, bro.

It is. I always just said the universe because I feel that way. Like the way Bejro said it, I feel that way. I know I sit at the table with, with, with, Infinite intelligence. I tap into the stream of consciousness. And I just, I've been doing it for so long because your evolution requires isolation.

And everyone fucked that up. During this lockdown, they could have just, they could have 10x their internal growth. Talk about that. They fucked it up. They could have 10. Because that's where you had your biggest breakthroughs was in lockdown.

Oh, yeah. They could have had their biggest fucking level ups, 10x their internal growth. And really saw their flaws that are, keeping them from the path they're supposed to walk, but instead they victimized. Instead, they stayed ungrateful. I mean, yeah, fucking, there's a lot of fucked up shit going on in the world, but you're supposed to have a grateful heart even in the worst of times. And gratitude kicks open the door to higher infinite intelligence. Gratitude is a sole emotion that opens

the door to higher intelligence. That's why when I wake up, the first thought has to be grateful. Like, literally, like people, if you make someone wake up a 245, listen to their self-talk. Are they great? fucking, fucking. Like, these motherfuckers tell me, well, it's just not all about the money. I've never seen them get up early for anything but money. I get up early every day for personal development. I get up early every day to be a servant of others.

I really only think about other people when I'm delivering my content, when I'm getting up early, when I'm creating this role model. And literally people have never gotten up on their day off to better themselves. They've only gotten up early in their life for fucking money And then they tell me it's not about the money I said what is it about then? Because did you get a thousand DMs today Saying you changed my life you saved my life

Because I thought that was pretty fucking good Boom They never got up early for them They never got up early to better themselves Only for the money They say it's not about the money Hypocrisy bro hypocrisy To that point

Let's talk about your morning routine You get up at 2.45 in the morning still What does your morning routine look like walk us through if some of us want to live the West Watson. Oh, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's still full, is it still the, uh, dehydrated coffee? Same, same, same everything. Folgers, uh, instant coffee, but that's the first thing I drink in the morning.

You know what you and us foreigners have in common? Fulger's instant coffee, man. That's the best shit. I mean, it's, it's humbly. It keeps that, that just, that attaches me to my roots. But, um, 2.45 wake up, non-negotiable last 13 years, never missed. Seven days a week? Seven days a week.

Never missed a day. But personal development and true creation of your highest self is every day. You don't take a day off of that. I mean, you'll habitually construct a weakness on that day off, deliver some self-doubt and some anxiety by taking the day off. And then you'll have to backpedal all the way through the next day, which is typically why people hate Monday. But so 2.45 a.m. wake up straight to taking my morning shake, my coffee,

my pre-workout, my stuff. And then the craziest thing happens. the craziest fucking thing happens. The whole time I've been doing this, I did not know I was really falling in alignment with the power of 3.40 a.m. The whole time, every crazy thought I've had, everything I've written, was done at 3.40 a.m.

And I didn't know about the power of 3.40m. Where you're most aligned with your purpose on this earth is at 3.40 a.m. And I, the whole time in prison, 3.40am, reading my quotes, writing out this crazy shit that was just in filling my brain. And I just had endless flow at that moment because they were going to count at four. And I had to be on my rack. This was a perfect time after an ab workout and some stretching to get on the rack and do my reading and writing until they were done counting, which sometimes took a long time. And then I would get back off and get into another workout.

But now my gym opens at 4 a.m. and I find myself sitting in my vehicle. writing my post for everyone for the day to take with them on their day, their strength, their aim for the day at 3.40 a.m. I have never deviated from this time. And I found out through other people that cultures since the dawn of time have used the power of 3.40 a.m. to tap into their purpose. Hmm. 3.40 a.m. That's a powerful thing. So obviously someone, once you're waking up at 2.45, you're having your shake, your water, your coffee, you're going through your gratitude at 3.40.m. You tap into the flow state where you can just then be the messenger of what's what's,

what's to be shared with the world. You do your workout at 4 a.m. What happens after that? 4 a.m. Workout, then I come home. What did the workout split look like? Do you have a routine? Workout split.

Push, pull legs. Push, pull legs. Push, pull legs. Repeat. Seven days a week. Seven days a week. But it's basically push, pull legs. And then push and then just back.

and then arm day super set arms buys and tries and forearms and then legs on Sunday again got it so I just have to hit arms fucking as their own day but um a lot of people would think that's the trick it's not the trick is time

like the length of time you've been working in a hypertrophy specific manner and consuming the correct macronutrients if you don't know what hypertrophy is and a hypertrophy specific training and if you don't know what fucking macronutrients are just smack the fucking shit out of yourself and Google that shit, figure it the fuck out, or DM me fucking shoot.

Go on westwatson.com. We'll dial you into a fucking T and you'll just be like, holy shit. How the fuck did I, my whole life this fucking eluded me? What the fuck? It took this fucking guy to tell me. Yeah, those transformations that you're putting up are nuts. It's so much mindset. But once they got the blueprint, we deliver the mindset through the Zoom calls of my program.

And we all talk about everything. We do it through the content. and then, but what's when the blueprint is there? A lot of these people are learning something for their first time and getting a result. Like they're learning something for their first time. Oh, research these foods. Oh, put these foods in alignment. Oh, really stick to them.

Oh, shit. And I really got a result. This is like the start of their life for the first time. They really research something, stuck to it and got a tangible result for the first time in their fucking lives. Most people, like most people. I don't care if you're 50. A lot of people show up and their whole goal is to do less that day and just get a check.

That's it. That's exactly it. So 4 o'clock you're working out. You're probably consuming proteins right after that, right? Yeah. What does the rest of your day look like? Do time block? Do you go, how do you, how does your workday flow?

Are you screen sucking from your iPhone or randomly working? Because I doubt it. Yeah, basically, I, right after the gym, I go home and I'll usually create a YouTube video because I'm just in that heightened rate of vibration. I know the energy exchange is going to be correct. I'm in the exact state that I want them to know. I want them to feel that energy, feel that motivation, feel that love for life. I believe people are just buying like that lust for life.

Like this like undeniably through the camera, this guy loves his life. And that's what a lot of people don't do on their social media because you can't lie about that. Like they don't even, I could fucking share. a story about my morning cup of Fulgers better with more conviction than a motherfucker could talk about the birth of his child. These motherfuckers are just dull, dude, on purpose.

Because it's their self-talk. You can see a glimpse of their internal dialogue about their life by how they fucking showcase it. Incongruency creates hypocrisy. That's what it is. When they live an incongruent life, they show up as a hypocrite even on the most thing that they should have the highest level of conviction

on which should be the birth of their child. Fucking gold. That's gold. I mean, literally, I like to say, um, hypothetical is hypocritical. So these, a lot of these guys who like, um, they speak on a lot of these deep topics and commitment and this and that. And like, they're a business man. They don't show up with any type of physique or anything. I'm like, wait, are you just standing on your fucking strengths?

Like, do you realize that quote you said it is supposed to be across the board? Right. You get that that's wisdom applied. That needs to be unbiased. You get that right. And they're just like speaking this big old. quote about fucking dedication and all this shit with three fucking chins and shit and i'm just like what is this dude does he not even see it just got to smack him sometimes so to that point

you get home you have that protein doesn't matter how long it takes that we're going to get this guy through his daily routine that's what i love about west he'll go off on like a massive teaching lesson and then i'm going to bring you right back to that day yeah yeah i figured you out bro i've figured you out so we had the protein you get home how would you start well You make your YouTube video. That's right. You do your YouTube video and then bam, what's next? YouTube video.

And then I literally am booked out for calls an hour on and hour off the rest of the day. So then I'm on Zoom calls for one hour and then I have an hour break. For one hour, an hour break, one hour break, one hour, an hour break. What do you do on the hour breaks? Hour breaks, I eat and then I go ask my wife anything she needs me to do. So any free time I have is for my wife and my son. Any free time that I have throughout the day is for them. And then when I get off at 3 p.m., it's,

any music she wants to listen to, anywhere she wants to go, anything she wants to do, I'm just, the answer is yes. So, I mean, what I want to do is work. I get my worth from the work. Like, there's, driving around my brand new fucking $450,000 Rolls-Coyce Cullen and does shit for me already. It's already like, fuck, like what the fuck next? It was just like an identity shift that needed to take place. But I mean, the craziest part is, is like, it's just really the work that instills the work to me. Getting that breakthrough in someone is the only thing I really feel anymore.

Everything else is kind of just pain to me other than flow state. So whatever gets me in flow state is the compass rails of where I need to be. And with them when I can just let go and let them tell me what they want to do, then perfect. Then I'm just serving. I'm a servant to them. And I feel so

fucking good. So three o'clock comes, you know, it's whatever, it's music or you, Valerie, and your son or out doing something, whatever. At what point do you guys get home and start decompressing, dinner, relax, go to sleep? She probably wouldn't like it, but we go to bed pretty early. I mean, it's about 9 o'clock. But sometimes she's like, fucking shit.

Like, we're going to go to bed at 9 o'clock for the rest of our lives. I'm like, no, plan something. I'll be ready to do it. I swear I'll do it. But the thing is, is like. Val, do you get up at 2.45 too? She did for a little. For a little bit.

Not everyone has to. She was actually going to the gym with me at 4 a.m. for a little bit. Yeah. And I'll get back to it. I'll get back to it. Notice how she says she'll get back to it because it felt so fucking good. Fatigue is the best pillow. So any of you guys who have trouble sleeping, you're not fatigued enough.

Slap your fucking self. Yeah. But I'll tell you this, though, for me, the gym time is the most selfish time of all. I want to be alone. I want to be secluded. I want to be isolated. So it's funny that you said she was going with you. I actually try and talk my wife out of it. She goes and does her own.

She does her own thing. at that same time, but not with me. That's my time. When she goes to yoga by herself and shit, I'm like the biggest advocate. I'm like fucking handle it. Like I know how powerful that is to everyone. But for me,

I like live in a constant state of vision construction. So I'm always kind of meditative. Like 24-7, I'm really creating something that's yet to exist. But I have the dumbest answer that people would not believe for the gym and why I go every day. And it's like the best thing in the world for me, because I literally say I go to the gym every day

so I can not be bothered by you. Like I go so much and I've gone so many times that I'm so far ahead with how I understand training that no one can bother me in the gym. Like if they come up and like need to talk to West Watson about his videos, he's like fucking like fuck yeah. Like let's talk more. That's how I met my buddy here.

He fucking, he came to the gym every day for six months. We started talking about click funnels and business. And his name's so hobby's back here. And he literally said, he's like, bro, I've worked with, I've done everyone's course, and I've worked with top people. He's like, no one would just talk at your level, nobody would just talk to someone for two fucking hours at the gym. And I just love it. I'm in flow state when I'm gifting everything that worked for me. I really just believe that.

That's our true career as to find what worked for us and then just gift it. Gift it. Gift it. So nine o'clock you guys go to sleep and obviously then you rinse and repeat the next day. And you do that on a consistent basis, and that's how you build legacies, empires, lifestyles, and impact. So we talked about click funnels. Let's start kind of shifting gears.

I got an award coming, the two comma club. Oh, you're going to. Russell's going to send you the two comic club. They're coming. Hey, Russell, we're like, no, shit. No, but it's on its way. Good for you, man. Well deserved.

So that said, last time we didn't talk much about business. And obviously, the Empire Show was a business show for entrepreneurs new and old. So let's talk about your business. I really want to get into the nuts and bolts. of what it is you do, how you get your leads, how you make your sales, how you keep recurring income, how many multiple income streams do you have, what's next, what's coming up. Who, yeah. Start where you want.

First, like, year one was just a few months. We start off six figures first year. How did that happen when you start off at six figures from your grandmas? Because you get out of prison and you go to grandmas. Is that right? It was monetizing views and likes and monetizing social platforms. So, I mean, I was already online coaching making like 3K a month. Okay.

And then then I started to really branch out and speak on bigger platforms. When I spoke on a bigger platform, I got millions of views on this first platform, Big Herk. And that one got millions of views. And automatically my sales of my online coaching went from 3K a month to like 15. But 15, I was tapped out with that system. Yeah. So then once we introduced my YouTube channel, introduced the ClickFunnel to that, introduced multi-tier programs, we automatically went from 15K a month to about

150. Now that 150 was that one stream which was mindset training nutrition. So on the mindset training and nutrition, we were pulling in 150 right away that that first year, like first four months at the end of that year. So the end of that year was like a six figure year, high six figure, almost seven. And then we come into the next year, which was 2020 when everyone got crushed. And we did a great year. I mean, this was a seven figure year, mid seven figure year. And what we did differently this year is we created a low ticket offer for we were pooling together all the emails that came through my ads and we were getting massive amounts of emails for the people who couldn't afford my mid-ticket program, which was a mindset training nutrition program, done through

trainerize and direct Zoom calls with the groups. And then we had the low ticket program, which was 47 bucks a month, which now has 10,000 members, 9,600 members, 47 month, massive value. They're actually able to get on the Zoom calls with me twice a week for that price to speak to What else do they get? Because we have a lot of coaches here, so whether their fitness or mindset or whatever coaches, they could learn from this. It's vague. So it's just all vague nutritional advice, content, and workouts. And it has to be because you've got 10,000 people. Yeah, yeah. So then the mid-level program, which has about 1,200 people on it, which is about $2.99 a month. This mid-level program is directly to you. Like, it's spot-on macros for you, getting adjusted to every time you plateau, we're adjusting macros to, break the plateaus. And then the workouts are being adjusted to what equipment you have, any changes, whatever. So it's completely custom right there, not cookie cutter.

If you're just cookie cutter, I'm like, first off, cookie cutter works. Second off, no. Here's a template. Tell me what you can't do. We'll adjust it around you. If shit changes, we'll adjust that. That's not cookie cutter, motherfucker. And then the diet is adjusted as you plateau.

So when you plateau, I'm going to adjust your macros personally by looking at... Explain why cookie cutter works. I'm not going to let you get away with that one. The cookie cutter fucking works. I got where I'm after. Because he got two arms, two legs, and you're no different

than the fucking guy next to you, friends. That's exactly it. These special ass. What are your fucking snow leg? Motherfuckers, bro. When people tell me that about, the same thing applies for business,

so I'm like, we're going to drive leads this way. We're going to create a low end product. We're going to have a fucking flagship. No, but they're special. Yeah. No, no,

your special. No, no, you're special. It only works for you. Your same tactic won't work for them. It's not their self-doubt. a less special. But anyway, so then we introduced my elite program, which is a one-on-one, one hour a week,

where we're actually breaking down, like I shared my morning routine, we're breaking down so on as direct morning routine, and then breaking all their limiting belief systems. We're getting into deeper issues they have, and this is a true one-on-one, and this is a much higher ticket. So we have a high ticket, a medium ticket, a low ticket. Now we have a business program. So now we have four streams off of that. and then we have other

merch subs that's not subs merch but I work with a supplement company and I work with other companies where I code usages all that but I mean basically like seven streams of income but I mean do the math 9500 people on the 47 1,200 people on the 299

and the elite which is 7500 where we usually maxed out at about 50 right there until we change the system a little bit I don't want you guys to all fucking email me tell me hey it was I heard Joe Pedro says and I can show you how to scale this. Fuck you. I'll do it fine. Like literally, I know how to do this shit. It's not a, we got this. Okay. Just let us grow. But anyways, I, I appreciate the offer, but yeah. Because you know

that was coming. It's going to come like a motherfucker. Every dude who watches Bayfield's a shit is a power player. He's, I can show you how to scale the business coaching thing. And he makes less than me. Right. I mean, he makes less than me. He's going to show me on a scale. I don't know how that fucking works, but whatever. All right. So, yeah, I love the tyrants that you want. That's what they fucking do. That is what they fucking do. All right. So, so that said, let's talk about your best sources of leads. Obviously, you're a very polarizing personality. Obviously, very specific in the person that you're speaking to, do you make an attempt to be that specific? Or is it just, hey, that's how I am. That's how I roll. If you're attracted to me, great. If you're not, see you later. I mean, I murdered the organic

space for like my niche. So, I mean, most of my, most of my leads are generated from organic. I do, I run a lot of ads about 70. People are going to laugh. About 70K. 75. 5k a month. That's low to all you big ballers out there, but normal people, you know, that's fucking, it's significant. Bro, can I tell you something? Yeah. Because I see the fucking inner, I'm in the green rooms with the people who say they do spend half a month?

Yeah. And then I see how they, they fucking, what they're driving off in. Not that that determines anything, but the, how they skip out on the check. In fact, me and Dan Fleischman. Dan's a beast, yeah. We've been all on Dan's mastermind. Yeah. We're just talking about that.

about that the other day how a lot of the people the fucking blue check marks who who pay their way into the green room by the way you can pay your way onto stage you either get paid to speak like I do or you pay to speak so that you can be in the green rooms with us and those are the dudes who will flash and floss but in reality don't have so let me tell you the numbers that you're generating they're real they're honest and they're fucking legit they're not to be fucked with the craziest thing is I appreciate that so much because you're this motherfucker fucker's a legend like who the fuck comes from immigrant to where he's at today and does it this way like he has by helping a lot of people. Fitness is the fucking the start for so many people. So thank you

for that. Because it was my start. That's how I built myself for it. So I appreciate when people find it the same way and conduct in the fitness sector. But the thing is, I profit like 85, 90% to. So I mean, because I do the work. It's not automate delegate. Automate delegate. automate and then delegate Hawaii feet kicked up do you want to only work two hours a day no I don't want to work two hours a day no I don't I I'm in the middle of my fucking calls with my clients I find peace and happiness and straight flow state I learn more about myself about them I'm really about inner peace motherfucker and I find that by alleviating others problems this if you ever have a problem you're lonely you're any of these things or or you're anxious your negative go solve that for someone else literally what you feel the world is withholding from you is what you're withholding from the fucking world done that's it there's no debate tell me about fatherhood oh father is the best that dude i was i watched his i was just telling your boy that i watched two clips from him last night just being a two-year-old two and a almost three i just watched them over and

over like while we were sitting up there laughing over and over like just classic but the thing is he's got a mean right hook and he can't stop using it on me one of these times i'm going to roll in with the black guy and you guys you're back what happened i'm back do you seen the videos this dude cannot stop hitting on me what are your goals with your son that that that as he gets older as he reaches four five six seven eight ten twelve fifteen like milestone goals that you're going to instill in him pour into him. Obviously you're going to live as a role model parent. That's a given.

That's how you just show up in life. But do you have any specific milestones that you've mentally set? I know you're a planner. I'm always tripping on how people pay their kids allowance to pull weeds and take out trash and all that stuff.

Yeah, they're going to fucking do that shit. But he's going to get allowance for what I do. He's going to get allowance for personal development. His nutrition, his workouts. The books he's reading and the reports he's given to me on them. This is a allowance. is coming from that. Yeah, you're going to take the fucking trash out and do all that shit

because you're a man and those in that inconvenience factor of all that plus the work I have you doing. That inconvenience factor shows you who you are right then. And that's when we check ourselves and we humble ourselves right there. But that's just a given. You don't, I don't want you to think that's what you get paid for. You habitually construct a belief system in your kid that they get paid to wash cars and fucking mow lawns and shit. Fuck that. Like my kid's going to, he's literally, his name's Wolfie's a shit. This dude's a sats. But how could you not with a name like that? But anyways, the thing is, is like, give them an allowance for personal development.

Please, you guys apply that fucking now. That's great advice. And I forget who it was and said that. It was one of the John... Damn it, but I thought I came up with that shit. No, no. It could very well be you. It was the universe.

Not John wouldn't. John, fuck, it's on the tip of my tongue. It doesn't matter. I'll think of it. But anyway, he says that I'm not going to reward my kids to take out the garbage. And watch the car. Because if I do, then I'm conditioning them to look for that as they grow older. Instead, I'm going to reward them for reading the books and applying those books to their life.

Massive. Look at that. Lit up. Massive chills. That is. And that's something that my wife and I have done instinctively. And I think by accident, because that's how I was raised by my dad. He was like, you're supposed to take out the garbage.

I'm not going to reward. Because I remember said, hey, all my American friends got an allowance. He's like, allowance. I got a roof for your fucking head. your allowance take out the fucking garbage you what you have to do is a fucking man of the house with me and then go and fucking serve society the more you serve the better problems you solve the more money you'll make there it is and and and that was the start of the the empire all right let's talk about being a spouse the last last part of that people people want to be

successful fuck chasing success seek to be fucking valuable and success will chase you people come through my funnel who west i want to make money i'm like how are you valuable they don't even fucking answer after that shit i'm like i can go go on you know what the fuck how are you valuable that's a great question to ask all right what about being a being a being a husband being married oh it's the best i mean i i really think soulmates test you you know yeah so the areas i'm weakened she builds me up there is what areas are you weakened everything fuck no everything that has to do with relationships i'm very new to them you know i was incarcerated for 10 years you know i just was with myself it was very selfish you know and i mean the

thing is is I don't always see stuff but I'm honest I'm like I don't think that way you got to help me yeah so I mean the weaknesses are you know being compassionate fucking you know just really thinking of addressing someone's needs listening I mean just understanding that everyone's not so fucking tough and driven I mean just really just stuff like that like just I mean living learning to fucking live in the matrix a little bit

and they have fun what people call fun and stuff I mean stuff like that I mean I was in prison for 10 years I kind of like shed all that

yeah yeah it's okay to jump in and out of civilian life yeah it's what I think it's needed I need to do it more

because if not what happens I lose what I care about most so am I going to lose what I care about most to gain the whole fucking world I mean

obviously that'd be pretty damn foolish. I know that my relationship is the highest priority to me, because when we do fight, when everything, the energy isn't good, I can't even fucking breathe. I can't tie my shoes.

Business is out the window. Leads could be coming through, like the people are like wanting to buy, and I'm talking them out of it. I mean, that's just a, I'm so not whole. And I appreciate you being this vulnerable,

bro because here here's where I'm going with this and a lot of dudes listening are going to relate to this for the longest time and sometimes now if I'm not in a great state and I was just talking to one of my coaching clients earlier before I came down here Nick Connollopoulos and we were talking and I'm like look man if I wake up on the dark side of the bed there's a fucking process I got to go through to find the light but if I'm in that state I'm not going to be the most loving and compassionate person, and I realize that about myself. But it's ironic that on a coaching call, I can show that empathy and compassion to a client where in that moment I won't be able to show it to my wife.

And one of the greatest growth areas of my life for me have been able to show my wife, my family, the same level of empathy and compassion that I'm able to share it with my coaching clients and I realized why my coaching clients are just far enough or if that relationship ends I won't hurt it won't fucking hurt yeah but vows close enough diana's close enough where if I show that level of vulnerability compassion and empathy and something fucking goes sideways and one of the greatest areas of growth was just to be fully fucking exposed bro to fucking share it all and to grow out of that for me that was about four years ago and it was just this massive breakthrough that I had in my personal growth.

And I share that because I'm 46, you're 30. About to be 38. 38. So 37. Right. So we've got about almost a decade in between. And one of the biggest things I hear men talk about is like, hey, man, I show up to friends in ways that I don't show up to my spouse.

I'm like, let me tell you why, dude. Let me tell you why. Because your friend might end up abandoning you and it'll hurt, but it's not going to, you'll feel betrayed. Your fucking honey does that, abandons you? I can't breathe. Yeah, you won't be able to... Exactly.

It's like I'm underwater. Yeah. So if you can show vulnerability at that level, that is true growth. That is true development. That is true vulnerability. Yeah, I was always telling my people, like, when they ask that question, how they teach their spouse, I say it's hard to teach in proximity. And like, teaching in proximity is very difficult because your weakness is their way out.

So your weakness is their way out. So they've seen... My wife's seen me fully lose my shit angry. So anything I'm trying to hold her to that she has to change. Like there she wants to work on and I'm talking about, oh, you got to work up or you got to die, you got to work out or these things. If she wants to do them and I'm pushing for them, then she's just thinking the back of her head like, you're weak in areas. I've seen it, motherfucker. But then when I tell my coaching clients like my weaknesses or I share it on here, everybody's like, oh, thanks for sharing your strength.

But they ain't seen it. They see me like fucking bitch, don't you, brother. Like she's seen it. So she knows the weakness, but your people will fucking cheer it on for you sharing a vulnerability and a weakness. So there's no downside to your followers, your fans, your coaching clients, the people you work with, people who are other than the direct individual that has seen your weakness. So you guys, your weakness is their way out. If you want to get through your people more, work on that weakness, double down, laser focus on that weakness to level up. And for me, it's in that moment when we're when we're fighting, when it's.

It's when it's like that for me to just realize that I don't have to push a needle forward. I can just control my thoughts, control my energy, and control my actions. If you've already acted out incongruently with the outcome you want, you're fucking up. But, I mean, main thing is, is people don't realize they're washing the dishes. And they're, like, after a 15-hour day, and there's, like, three dishes in there. And, I mean, you kill it all day. You made 30 grand. You live in the penthouse.

You're murdering. Multiple rolls. Fucking Lambo, this, that, the other. It's going through your head that you're the fucking shit. you're the man ego's just run a wild and then you're just now you're doing the dishes like motherfucker these people can't even fucking help me with the dishes like in that moment if you can be the rare man that i want to be and i'm i'm getting very close to at that moment i go i go in there and i take those dishes as like my main validating source if i can control my thoughts and energy

while doing that being inconvenienced like that at the end of a long day then i've i've i've in my eyes, I've achieved massive growth because a lot of people will do the dishes. They'll take out the trash. They'll do the shit. But they'll be cursing you up and down the fucking block while doing it in their head. And they'll have negative energy towards them. And then the guy's sitting there like, what? When she's mad at him, he said, what, babe?

I didn't fucking do anything? And she's like, fuck. Do I can feel you from two rooms away, you piece of shit? You make me sick. Enough years of that. She's gone. Yeah, that's exactly right. Well said.

Well, said. What is it that we haven't talked about that we need to talk about? to better serve society. Man. The biggest thing is what you're touching on with a lot of your programs and content is the right of passage. It's really that. I mean,

if we can create better men around us that we respect more, then we don't have to compromise our integrity and lie to people. Like, what type of man wants to be fucking lied to? Like, these men want to be like, no, honey, like,

that D cup looks great on you. We'll just get you a two piece for the summer. Like, it's all good. Don't worry about it. Don't diet. Don't hit the gym. We'll just we'll get you a bikini that fits them cones you got where you're working on home boy

Like what the fuck is that like be a man step the fuck up show the fuck up and respect them with your accent Love's a verb like show the fuck up for them you know and it's like oh no dad it's okay It's okay dad you never really were good at making money I don't need the bike you just never really got it bro Like imagine if your kid talk to you that way like they want your kid it's okay dad's okay you know I'll go hustle. Mom's got two jobs. Here's dad all a broken bitch. Fuck that.

Loves a verb, action, which means if you're going to be a role model, you've got to live that fucking congruent action. The greatest source of impact is going to come from there. Wes Watson, where's the best place they can find you? www. westwatson.com,

Watson underscore fit on Instagram, GP Penitentiary Life on YouTube. I mean, I'm on my Instagram like a motherfucker. So that's like the main daily place I'm showcasing stuff. But the YouTube channel is just, that's the one area I stress on putting my heart and soul into those 10 minute videos. Because I still need that. Like I need that discomfort and that stress to like really fucking deliver. And I watched some of my old videos, people tag me and I'm like, man, that was juvenile.

And so I just know I'm leveling up because the ones I watch now, I'm like, okay, I like that message. I like it. And then I recent, I got- But that's your revolution too. That's it. But I got the book dropping and write the book's a motherfucker. If you take too long to write it, then you go back. You're like, fuck, I'm way past those times.

If you're a quick, evolving person and you're dropping a book, man-up's fucking savage. I mean. Tell me about your book. It's dropping soon. It'll probably be out of December. What areas is a cover? Like just how much can you share? It's basically like what we just did here.

Like enough visuals of prison and then a lot of just fucking really. civilizations, understandings, deep fucking topics. I mean, just, it's, it's truly self-mastery in its finest. How to be a non-negotiable motherfucker and master yourself. Like I said, self-mastery is a key. And the key to self-mastery is through what we ingest. So, I mean, what we read, what we actually fucking eat, the energy we fucking absorb. I mean, fuck.

The beliefs. Yep. 1,000%. All right, Wes, Watson, thank you so much for your time, brother. Really appreciate you. Guys and gals, here's what I want you to do. I want you to take a screenshot of this episode, share it on your social media, tag myself, tag West. And of course, share it with everyone that you know because we want to add a lot of value, cost you nothing other than sharing it.

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