Bedros Keuilian Podcast Show - Building a Massive Side Hustle -151

Episode Date: June 5, 2020

There are a lot of opportunities for you to maximize your gifts and utilize them to create your own business. The difficulty lies in the execution and consistency. Today’s podcast , My good friend and I, Ryan Tillman, shares his perspective on the current state of the United States as a Black Police Officer. Additionally, sharing how he created he became a successful entrepreneur while serving as a police officer. There is a ton of wisdom in this one so enjoy !    Here’s what you’ll discover: 4:30 - The Media and how it desensitizes our perspectives 7:50 - The Entrepreneur vs The Wantrepreneur 21:50 - Two Principles that are Essential to success 34:00 - Emphasis on the importance of sales , especially for the youth !  41:00 - Ryan Explains how the power of choice and opportunity regardless of race “If you wait until you’re fully ready, then you are never going to launch ” “You’re not going to find the right time, You’re never going to have all the right information, you will never be fully experienced , so just do consistently“ “You make time for the things you value and find excuses for those that you dont.”   - Bedros Keuilian   --   Follow me on Instagram: @bedroskeuilian   Buy Man Up and get Bedros’ High Performance Leadership Course for FREE: https://manup.com/   Subscribe to My Channel for weekly videos: http://www.youtube.com/bedroskeuilian/?sub_confirmation=1   Youtube https://youtu.be/N_QIlFMu98k

You can go out there, have a full streamline business for the right reasons to do the right things and not have to fall into that category of being, oh, he's just trying to scheme on me to make money on me. Hey, welcome to The Empire Show. This is Bedrose Kulian, and this is an inside look. And we're doing something very unique and different today. We're going to talk about people who've got careers, who've got jobs. You might be a public servant. You might have a career in some kind of industry, and you might want to break out of that industry. and become an entrepreneur. And this is really the big thing

that we're going to talk about today. And we've got none other than my dear friend, Ryan Tillman, who's got an amazing company called Breaking Barriers United. Ryan, what's up, man? What's going on, man? Thanks for coming out to The Empire Show. And today we're going to do a deep dive

into you, your business, what you do as a police officer. Excellent. Especially in these crazy times. So if you're watching and listening to this, we are, what, a week and a half, since George Floyd murder? Two weeks, if not two weeks, yeah.

Okay, so this is a very critical time and, you know, it was one of those things that I'd always been meaning to bring you on the show. We've known each other going on almost a year. And, I mean, no better time than now. Yeah. So let's get started about, I just want to know, like, why you became a cop.

Obviously, you loved cops, and you grew up as a little child saying, I just dream of being a cop. Is that right? Oh, yeah, that's absolutely not right. Not right. So what's the story? So growing up, man, I grew up locally, grew up in Rialto, California, which is not that far from here.

Actually, I didn't really have too many interactions at a young age with police officers. It wasn't really until I start getting into high school that I actually start to, you know, see cops here and there. Some of my family members, uncles and things like that, they would have bad run-ins. They would get pulled over, harassed for, you know, stupid things, whatever. be and I just kind of saw that from a far distance didn't really pay much of mind to it so then as I started getting older I never forget the story man I got I was uh driving I had a Mustang had like a 94 Mustang just got my license man you could I was probably the coolest thing in town you couldn't tell me nothing man so you know I'm driving in the city man I'm like you know have my seat back you know back

you know back in the day you like roll your lay your seat back all you can see is the knuckles yeah yeah couldn't tell me nothing so anyways I had my beanie on and it was cold I was talking on the phone. Now, this was right around the time that they had just started passing laws you couldn't talk on the phone. And so I'll never forget I had some guys roll up next to me and basically start saying, you know, get the, you know, get off the mother effing phone and, you know, wipe the, you know, f-and smile off your face and stuff like that. Wait, these were cops? These were, yeah, these were cops. And I guess they were an unmarked vehicle. Got it. So in my mind I'm thinking like, they could easily just told me to just get off the phone. You know what I mean?

So I had that bad experience. And then, you know, moving forward in life, I started having some other bad experiences. I remember driving through a neighborhood. One of the things I've always been a visionary. So, you know, my vision for my brand, my vision for my business, it wasn't like it was just a brand. I woke up one day and just had a vision all of a sudden. It was, I've always visioned, you know, how can I change our society. So I like, in order to do that, I like to go find inspiration and things. So I was driving through a neighborhood in Ranch, Kukumanga, just trying to see like, hey, like, you know, oh, this is cool house, man, it'd be cool. So some guys following me. So I noticed he's fine

It's not like I'm in like a bad looking car Even if I was oh well like it doesn't matter But I was in a decent looking car at the time I upgraded I got an infinity G35 So I'm like you know now I'm really the next thing Since life's bright Yeah I'm bawling now So I'm driving to the neighborhood

And some guy pulls up behind me He's like hey you don't belong in the neighborhood You know you need to leave here If not I'm gonna call my partners And have him come arrest you So he was portraying himself I guess as an off-duty police officer So I'm like in the worst part about it was his young son was right there, and I'm like, you know, he didn't need to see all that.

So anyways, I was kind of used to at that point. How were you at that point when that happened? I was probably around like 21, 22-ish. So I had already moved back and I'd go into my story about where, because I went to college and played football at UNLV, so that's a whole different other story. But anyways, you fast forward, you know, I just start having these, I didn't like police officers. And then you start, you throw in social media into the mix because that was right, you know, At that time, Facebook was, you know, the thing.

It actually was MySpace first, and it was Facebook, and then people started sharing content. And it almost started fueling the fire against police and started developing this fire in my heart that I didn't like police officers at all. So then I'll never forget, and this is probably, I feel terrible about this and I feel ashamed of myself for this. But I'll never forget when Christopher Dorner was going out killing cops. and when he was doing that, part of me was like rooting for him. And it wasn't because I wasn't thinking about the police officers. It was because I had started,

I developed, and the media had developed this whole thing for me that, oh, you know what, like this Robin Hood mentality, like, oh, he's coming to speak out and be the voice. And I didn't realize how desensitized I became for human life at that point in time, based on my bad experiences, what I saw on social media. So you weren't thinking about the life, in the uniform

you were just thinking about the uniform the cop bad, bad, kill him yeah, that's it didn't think about family members behind it nothing, nothing and so...

And it's easy to do that. Super easy and especially with, you think about like content like Instagram, whatever it is, like back in the day, I don't know if you remember this,

but back in the day they would have those TV shows like two live for TV and like if you watched that you were like living life on the edge because you're like seeing like people getting like murdered and things like that.

Now you can go on Instagram And see death right away and make matters worse. Like I have a six year old, a four year old, and a two year old. So they have access to that. So we've become desensitized to it. And so that's the scary part. So anyways, fast forward all that. I just didn't like police officers at all.

Just based on those interactions I had, seeing what I saw on social media. And then I have, you know, family members that were pulled over multiple times, said it fit the description of armed robbery suspect. And then they were pulled over in handcuffed. And then they're released. And then nothing ever came about it. And there was no explanation. So my disposition to cops was like, no, like, I'm not about to be working for the man.

I'm not about to be a pig. I'm not about to be the po-po. Like, that was my mentality before I became an officer. Very interesting. And then you become an officer. We'll explore that in just a moment. And then what about Breaking Barriers United? That really got my attention.

And that was before any of this race riot and all that's happening right now. What's breaking barriers united? So Breaking Barriers United, it's a company to bridge the gap between law enforcement in the community. So it wasn't like this company was formed when George Floyd passed away. Like I said, I was always been a visionary. And so when I got into law enforcement, part of me was like, man, like, well, there goes my dreams of being an entrepreneur. Like, I always my dream was to be an entrepreneur my whole life. I can go down the list and share with you like idea after idea I had.

I got business plans. And the funny thing about all the ideas I had, I would make it a little bit further than fail, a little bit further than fail. And I stopped classifying it as a failure. I started realizing it was a success. It was just preparing me for what the next thing was that I was going to do. And so when I got in the law enforcement, I was thinking like, man, like, there goes, God. Like, there goes my opportunity. Now I'm-

Let's talk about that for a moment. So our audience, our audience consists of entrepreneurs and then what we call want entrepreneurs, people who have jobs, who have careers, and some in industries that they love, but have that burning in their stomach, that gnawing in their stomach that maybe I'm supposed to be the person that signs the front of the check and not the back of the check, right? And so I'm curious, why, what ran through your mind when you're like, well, now that I'm an officer, which pays well, health benefits, pension down the line, all that stuff, why would you think that now that I'm an officer?

Like, what's running through your mind that now there goes my dreams of being an entrepreneur? It's because, you know, we've been kind of ingrained, you know, I keep my, so my parents, phenomenal parents. I love my parents. And I wouldn't be anywhere without my parents. They were very hard workers. Both my mom and dad, you know, worked full time. And not only did they work full time, they made it a point to come to almost every single sporting event I had, everything I had growing, you know what I mean? And I grew up in a neighborhood where majority of my friends didn't have both parents in the house. And so I just really appreciate my parents. But at the same time, they grew up middle class, you know what I mean? Middle class lifestyle. So the whole

idea of taking risk was never introduced to me at a young age. I didn't start seeing that until I went to college in Vegas and start seeing all these people from all around the world and then having people looking from a far like, man, like that is like a cool lifestyle to live life on your terms. So when I got that job as a police officer in my mind, I'm thinking like, well, this is, yeah, it's a decent paying job, but that's what it is. It's a decent paying job. Now, don't get wrong, it's an honorable job. It's a very honorable profession. And for many, this fulfills their desire for service and self-sacrifice. But for me, I knew that I still had a bigger calling.

And that's why I was like, at first I was like, I couldn't see the vision. Even though I was a visionary, I couldn't see the vision of entrepreneurship as a police officer. Gotcha. I guess at that point, it hasn't crossed your mind that I could do this and that. And I didn't know what the need was at that point.

And see, a lot of people get it twisted. And one of the things I learned and all those failures I had is, you know, when you jump from me, when you jump from thing to thing to thing, of course you're going to fail. You know, your success comes with a consistency. And so me and my buddy Billy, who's in studio right now with us, we were talking about this other day is like, I think we've been successful because we've been consistent. Our content hasn't always been the best.

There have been some times where we put out some f-to-up content. You know what I mean? But we were consistent with everything that we did. And people started seeing a message. They start seeing that we were consistent. And so, you know, when you have such a time as this with George Floyd, you know, you almost realize it's almost like a commercial, like how many times that we watch commercials on TV and never thought about it twice? Yep.

You can let's just use a vacuum cleaner, for example. You'll see the same vacuum cleaner over and over and over again. And then the moment you actually need a vacuum cleaner is like, that's the moment you realize the commercial you just saw. Yeah. So what me and Billy have been doing over the course of the last, you know, five years or so is we've been consistent with changing the narrative of law enforcement in the community. And now the last two weeks, my phone's been blowing up. off the hook from anybody and everybody. Because all those times when you were speaking out,

it's like, ah, it's kind of falling on deaf ears. Because it wasn't a need. It wasn't a need. It wasn't a need. It wasn't a need until it was a need. Yeah. And by the way, the piece in our brain that catches that is called the reticular activation center. And I learned about this years ago through, I've got to give credit to John Ashcroft.

He's just like this amazing dude that studies the brain and how and why we think. And the way he explained it was, you know, you and I are talking, and since we're talking Mustings, let's say, what if I'm like, hey, Ryan, when you guys leave, when you and Billy leave here, you guys are driving down the highway, see if you can spot any of these new Mustangs, right? The new Mustang, Shelby Cobras that are out there. All of a sudden, you're going to see a Mustang everywhere. And you're like, where the hell they come from? And that's your articular activation center looking for them. Or filtering out the things that you don't need because there's so much information coming at us. If we had to pay attention to everything, we'd just. go banana. Exactly. Yeah, but that's such a great mechanism in our brain. And for you and your business, that's serving you well. Unfortunately, George Floyd's death shined a spotlight in what's always been happening consistently throughout our country. But now it's serving you in your business well and allowing you to really shine a light on something that needed a light shined on. for a while. So what kind of stuff, what kind of offers? Why is your phone blowing up? What are people

asking you? What is the media asking you to talk about as a cop or as a black man? Both. Both. So I think one of the things that makes my business unique is that, you know, I come in and coming in the middle because I came up from somebody that didn't like police officers. So I understand that side of it. I come in as a black man in America. I understand that side of it. But now I'm a police officer. And so there have been situations that I've been put in that if you look at it just the video that posted is not going to give you the full context and people would be bashing me based off of a short 20 second video

so I see that part of it. And so I think people, because I've always been neutral on it, you know, and I can see both sides of it. I think that's why people want to come to me because they know they're going to get a fair shake. And so that was important for me. That was important for my audience. And I think that's why people are coming to is knowing that,

like, hey, Ryan's going to give me a fair shake. And one of the things I want to highlight too is, you know, we're looking at protest, and we're looking at, you know, people being, businesses being looted and just all this division in our country. And one of the things that I can't stand the most is that you have all these people that give lip service on social media. Like all this lip service, like, oh, this needs to be done,

or justice for George Floyd, which I'm all about, you got the hashtags going around. But my point is that in two months, when all this is, you know, when the next big headline comes out, whatever that headline is going to be, how many of these people are actually going to forget about George Floyd? A majority of them probably are. A majority of them probably going to forget about the movement.

So the cool thing that I want to highlight the hope that I want to bring to this. And if you're an entrepreneur out there listening to this is that real protest comes in entrepreneurship in many ways. Because, you know, when you go out as an entrepreneur as a business owner and you start creating a solution for a problem, that's where the real protest comes. The real protest isn't necessarily a hashtag. That's going to fall on deaf ears many times. And so I've been about, you know, all this business for five years. been consistent because I saw a plan. And I've been attacked from both sides.

I've been attacked from officers and I've been attacked from the community. But I think as people are starting to see the need, I think now more people are starting to see the globalized vision that I have from day one. Like my son wants to be an officer so bad, like my oldest son. Like that's all he wants to do. He's a six-year-old? Yeah, he's a six-year-old. Like, way different than what I ever was.

Like, all he does. Every morning we wake up, he has a freaking police uniform monitor. He's walking around the house with a freaking gun on his hip, like a little play gun on his hip. Like, that's all he wants to do, right? That's cool. But we're living in trying times as a profession. So my grandfather would always tell me, like, Ryan, when you walk into a room, when you leave that room, make sure that room is in better condition when you leave than when it was when you got in.

I look at that the same way as my profession is like, when I get out of this profession, if he wants to go into it, I better make sure this profession is a lot better than what it was when I got in. And so I've had that globalized approach. And so I think as people sometimes, we just have this, you know, this short-sighted view on things of perspective. that because in that short side of view sometimes only is you thinking about yourself and your own what like what's in it for me it's immediate gratification

because most of us want to know like what could I do to feel better now what could I eat to feel better now could I sleep longer to feel better now can I just watch one more show to get that dopamine hit but what if you take the long approach the long game and you say you know what I'm going to delay gratification

and I'm going to work hard and maybe stand up against cops who are crooked and society who just paints us with one brush, a broad brush, so that if my son wants to be a cop, or any young son wants to be a cop, and if you try to leave this industry better than I found it.

Exactly, exactly. And that's what my whole, that's what my whole aura is. And like I said, I asked God from the beginning, like, God, if this is what you want me to do. If you want me to be a police officer, did show me why. Because honestly, man, to be honest with you be, like, I still didn't know I wanted to be a cop,

even when I became a cop. Like, I went through, so let me go back real quick. I, when I prayed about it, I said, God, if this is what you want, what you want me to do, open the door, if not close the door. God, like, opened the doors tremendously because, like, a lot of people don't realize it takes a lot to get hired in this profession. Like, there's extensive background checks that go on. And they did mine in, like, three months. And a lot of times, when you go into the profession, you have to choose, or you don't get to choose where you want to work. Like, you take the first offer that comes at you.

I actually had the opportunity to choose where I wanted to work. So that was a sign. Then I went to the academy and out of a class of about 47 people, I finished number two overall. I missed number one by like 0.04%. Like one more question, I would have been finished number one. And the only reason I wanted to get number one is because they give you a cool gun. But I'm going to ask a dumb question. Like a real gun?

Yeah, like a real gun. Oh, yeah. It's like a freaking sweet revolver. I was like, oh, man. So I was on state. Like, we're at our graduation and I'm all bitter and stuff like that. Is everybody like, dude's getting his gun? I'm like, yeah.

I would have totally tried harder for a gun. Yeah. Hey for you. So, yeah, so I do really well in the academy. And mind you, at the academy, the first week I started the academy is when I had my first son, my first child. So I was like, we started the academy Monday. My wife's water broke on Friday and we had our son Saturday and I was back at the academy Monday morning. And so I didn't really even have time to adapt to being a new father.

So, but God still prevailed. I went through and I did really well at the academy, got out of the academy, went into field training program, which is another six to seven months. and that's where you actually learn how to do the job. And at that point in time, I remember driving around and pulling people over. I was like, man, like, I don't like this feeling. Like, I feel like I'm messing with every single person I'm pulling over. Like, I don't like this. So then it wasn't until I got off a training that I realized, like, there was a genuine need for law enforcement.

And so that's when, you know, shortly after that was when Ferguson happened. So, like, the last time we saw this when Michael Brown was killed by a cop. And my mom was like, hey, what would my son have done if he was that officer in that Michael Brown situation? And she was like, after thinking about it, my son's a great son, a loving husband, all this other stuff. He probably would have did the exact same thing. And it was, that was a lightball moment for me. That's when I saw like, wow, like the only reason my mom is saying that is because I'm her son. We were not a pro-police family growing up.

It wasn't like we were like, F the Popo, like that wasn't our mentality, but we were not pro-police. And so when she said that, it was profound for me because it was like the only reason she's saying that is because her pumpkin, because she calls me pumpkin, her pumpkin is the po-po now. Right, right. So that's when I was like, you know, I need- Pumpkin can't do anything wrong. Exactly. All of our moms are the same way. Exactly. So that was a problem.

And then that was the solution. And that's when Breaking Berries United was founded because I said, you know what? I need to go out there and show the world that I'm just a regular human being. And I'm going to be myself doing it. And I'm not going to change for nobody. So I still wear my Js everywhere I go and my my fitted hat. I mean, you know, I walked in this morning and saw my guy Billy got a fitted eye.

I was a little jealous. I was like, man, you know what I mean? So, but that's my mentality. I'm not going to change. Let me ask you something. You've been a cop for how long? Six years, one or seven years. That's not a long time.

No. No. What gives you the balls to then go, I'm going to create this breaking barriers united, knowing that it's going to create some waves, not only in the cop community, not only in the cop community, police community, but also with society in general. So I created Breaking Bears United a year and a half on. And one, it was my faith in Jesus Christ. That's the first thing.

Second thing was I knew, like, I've always been like one of those guys being an athlete. I grew up as an athlete. So I played college football at a division one level. I would always been a competitor growing up. So just because you put some pressure on me doesn't like the more pressure you put on me, the more I'm going to go. And that was just that like, you know, you talk about the book Relentless and just that that mentality of, you know, the cleaners. Yep. And as Tim Grover says, the author of that book, pressure is a privilege.

Yes, it is. And so for me, I embraced it. And that's why, you know, Kobe Bryant was one of my favorite basketball players ever. And then after reading that book Relentless, I realized like Kobe, Mike and Dwayne Wade, all of them. those guys, they all had that same relentless mentality. Kobe just coined the phrase of Mamba mentality. They coined that for him, but it was the same mentality. So that's kind of what sparked it for me.

And I was like, you know what? I'm going to go out and do it because it's the right thing to do. And that's what I realized as an entrepreneur. Like, you know, I live by three standards. Is it moral? Is it ethical and is it safe? And if it meets those three criteria, I'm going to do it. And so that's what kind of start getting me beyond the barriers that I had to push you.

And mind you, man, like be. the first few years of my career, as much as they were as success, outward looking, I mean, I got awards, beat cop of the quarter, like six months on the job. I was awarded, I was nominated officer of the year the first year on the job. I got, you know, officer,

I was awarded officer of the year, two and a half years on the job. I was getting accolades left and right, and people were upset at me and angry, and it wasn't stuff that I was out there seeking, like, hey, man, give me an officer of the year, vote for me. It was just my mentality, my drive.

But people were trying to portray it to me As if I'm trying to be some freaking You know who I think I am You know what do you And so that's a lot of pressure like that. Let's hit two things here real quick Two very important things For our audience guys and gals

If you guys are watching this listening to this I don't know if you're on YouTube or you're on any of the The podcast platforms One if you wait till you think you're fully ready You're never going to launch period A year and a half And to being a police officer you're like, this is what my heart says I need to be doing.

I've talked to Jesus about it. Yep. And he's on board. Are we good? By God, I'm pulling the trigger. Me and J man, good. And you go back and it's funny because going back to those failures that I had earlier, and I'm not going to tell you all my business ideas because y'all watch how much I steal them,

I still might come back to those. But those failures I had, I realized. He cracked me up. I realized, like, man, like, for such a time as this, like, this is, those, failures led to this. Yeah. And now I see my true need and true call. Yeah.

But I mean, think about this, right? Like how many people, whatever the industry, but I'm going to use policing as an example, but let's talk veterinary, let's talk civil engineering, let's talk whatever. Might be like, man, I'm just a year. I'm a puppy. You were a puppy a year and a half into the policing space, right? And there's clearly people that have seen more action than you that have had more experience. time under the badge than you, who, like, your self-talk could have been, maybe someone else

should be doing this, maybe someone else who's got more experience, more time under their belt, more whatever. But instead, you came up with the idea, you pulled the trigger because you knew that you're the guy that's going to do it. And I see so many people leaving money on the table, leaving impact and meaning on the table, and then ultimately are going to regret it because they're waiting for the right time, experience, the right partner to come along, the right partner to come along, the right. right person to tell them, you've got this, you can do it. And unfortunately, you're not going to

find the right time. You're never going to have all the right information. You're never going to be fully experienced until you're dead. I think, like, the idea is that we're going to peak right when we die. If you're peaking in your 30s or 40s, like, I feel bad for you. You should peak right when you're about to die at 100 years old. So that's thing number one. Thing number two that I caught real quick. And as our friend, Ed Milet always says, some of the best lessons are not taught. They're caught. And that is that you, treat your profession as a cop and your business as an entrepreneur

as a sport. Yes. That's exactly how I treat this franchise. It's a fucking sport and I must win and I must be competitive and I must be the best at it. Let me ask you this real quick. So, because you go back to the I came with a year and a half of the mentality, I always tell this to people. So the question would be is like if you take the NFL for example, you have a guy that's been there for 10 or 15 years. years. And then every April,

every April, February right on that time, we have the NFL draft. And they're going to go out there and get the best talent. When they get that best talent and when they acquire that best talent, do they draft him to put him on the bench? Or do they draft him to play?

To play. Without a doubt, right? So even though he's a rookie in the NFL, they expect him to play. And that bet, do you think that bet is chilling knowing he's comfortable? do you think that vet is nervous like oh shoot like that might be my replacement yes and so that's always been my mentality and for some reason and it's not just in law enforcement it's just in general whatever profession you go on we get comfortable and you get to that point we're like you we start

associating maturity your experience with time on and it doesn't always equate most times it doesn't equate it does there are some good things that come with time on without a doubt there's just certain things that you're going to experience with time on without a doubt but don't get it twisted and don't start thinking just because you got 15 years in the business, all of a sudden that makes me qualified in the expert as the expert. So, you know, me, I came in with that mentality. Like, man, like, you come in drafted number one. Like, I'm expected to produce. I'm expected to play. I'm expected to do what they brought me in here to do. And that's how I've always treated my life. And I think because of that, because of my drive, that's what continues to move me forward. And there's people that don't come

with me. And there's no harm, no foul. Like, hey, man, I still love you. We'll still row together. but I'm not going to stop. And it's just that mentality. There is no stopping. And there have been trying to be people that have been, Lord knows my story, there have been people to try to throw kinks and curgballs. Billy can tell you, even with our social media platforms, they will try to throw wrenches, but I will find another way to do it.

So help me God. Bam. Bam, I love that. So as you take on these speaking gigs, because you speak at universities, you speak at high schools, and you do such a great job at speaking to the young kids that might have a different narrative about police officers, just like you did, right?

Part of that narrative comes from, well, man, I heard how they treated my uncles and my aunts and my cousins, so you just kind of hear things around the house. And that changes the kid's narrative, right? That did with you. It did, for sure. And then part of it is personal experience.

You know, you're a black dude, driving your Mustang, you know, you got to chill so you got to drop that seat back and you're chatting it up on the phone and a cop could approach you a couple different way. Yeah. Hey buddy, can you just be safe and put that phone down or hey, put your fucking phone down

and da-da-da-da-da-da, right? So two very different, like, I have respect for that cop or I don't have respect for that cop and that, again, as humans we tend to broad stroke a lot of things. Like, I had a bad experience I didn't, but I what? I had a bad experience to the cop, but I had it because I was running away

from the cops and they caught me. Have I told you for getting caught? Have I told you that story? I think I heard on one of your podcasts. Yeah, man. So I had a 79 to pick up. I was 19 years old. My friends,

we started off tagging. And it wasn't like gang tagging. Like tagging was like in my generation. That was a thing. Yeah, it was a thing, man. It was an artistic expression, right? Where it was like tagging crews, but then that someone would have a house party

and all the crews would come together and enjoy each other. Yeah, we would have good. fights would break out, but, you know, it wasn't. shooting anyway. Yeah. And so tagging leads to somehow one of my buddies figuring out that, hey, this guy's house is empty. No one's home right now. Let's go break in. And so I was the only one that had a car. I had a 79 Toyota pickup with a camper shell on it. So one guy would sit next to me and the rest of the dudes would sit in the back of it. Right. And then, so I was a getaway

driver. And but a 79 Toyota pickup, bro, four-cylinder engine, they're like, you know, like, yeah, that thing was going nowhere. So we, did a few home invasion robber well i guess home break-ins it wasn't an invasion can you knock on the door a few times you check the back door front door side door you look through the windows you knock really hard make sure if someone's sleeping you wake them up i shouldn't be teaching people how i love i'm taking notes over there like so this is how they're doing oh you probably heard you know the strategy yeah yeah but yeah you do got to knock really hard to make sure if someone's sleep and you get their attention because you want the house to be empty so apparently this particular

house after several times doing it this particular house the dudes were convinced that it was empty So you turn around, you mule kick the door, and they go in. And it turns out of probably a deaf old lady lived in there, the poor lady. And so I'm in the car waiting. And I see the mule kick, and I'm across the street in the car, got the car on. And then within seconds, they turn back and run. I'm like, what the fuck happened? Yeah.

And like, go, go, go. And I started driving. And as it turns out, there was a lady in there. She probably just didn't hear all the knocking and the commotions, this older lady. But anyway, Anaheim Police Department. So I see like unmarked cars around me like, oh, fuck, this isn't good. So I'm going to make a right hand turn onto La Palma. I'm going down Magnolia.

And I see now a helicopter. I'm like, oh, this isn't good. I got to outrun the helicopter in the 79 Toyota pickup. Let me just tell you guys this. And this is in the 90s, bro. Like the car is old, right? It's over a decade old. And this is embarrassing.

And it was bright yellow. Bright yellow. But it's all I could afford it to time. Great content. Yeah. Yeah. And I share this with you because the only bad, experience I had with the cop was when obviously I couldn't get away.

So I'm like, fellas, I'm going to pull into the ARCO. We're all going to fucking spread out. And that's the only way where some of us are going to be able to get away. Man, they parked so close to my fucking doors. But I couldn't even open the doors. And I was pulled out so fast through the window. And there was a boot on my back. Like, I don't even know what happened.

Anyway, so the cop, like, and the helicopter goes away. But the old, they bring the old lady and she's able to point out the dudes. Yeah. But since I was in the car, you were alive. Yeah. She pretty much looks at me. I have no idea who he is. Handsome dude, but I have no idea who he is, right?

And so my friend's got in trouble and I did it. And I was like, oh, this is like a sign from above. I'm changing gears here. I'm changing gears. And that was the beginning of me changing gears in my life. But that was my only bad experience with a cop. And I share that because so many people have had bad experiences with cops, especially if they're black, if they're a person of color, Hispanic.

And it's easy to take broad strokes with that. And, and, and, but I want to go back to something you talked about earlier, which we never got to. You know, you didn't have the highest appreciation for cops, but what made you decide to be a cop? Was it like all other roads were, financial roads were turning dry and you're like, I'm going to be a cop because I'll get paid? So, no, so my dad's best friend was a captain for a local police department and he was like trying to recruit me for like two years. Okay. And he was like, hey, you should be a cop. And like I said, like, my mentality is like, no, not about to be the po-po.

to be the man like that's not what I'm doing and at the time my wife had ended up getting so two years later uh and it was funny because he was the black guy and I'll never get like he his recruitment taxes were flawless he uh my he went to he was like hey you want to come to to lunch with me and your dad I was oh yeah that's fine so what did your dad do my dad so my dad worked at the high school that I actually went to and he did all like my dad figured did everything he did the a he did the AV and then he was on the water board and he's on the planning commission and then he like my Yeah, did freaking everything. And I think I take a lot of traits after my dad.

So he was a civil servant as well. Yes. Yeah, in many ways. So he worked for the school district. My mom worked in the banking industry. And so this day he takes, you know, he's like, yeah, come to lunch with us. So we go to lunch. And I'm just thinking it's me and my dad.

Who's got the green eyes in your family? My great grandmother or no, my grandmother and my great grandfather on my dad's side. So great grandfather on my dad's side and my grandmother on my mom's side. I'm not going to ask you to go into any stories, but I could just imagine the game you had pre-marriage. Hey, hey, in case your wife watching. And then go on. Go on. So he's like, hey, go to lunch with me.

So I go to lunch. So I go to lunch. And then when I go to lunch, you know, this one, you know, black officer walks in a uniform. And I'm just saying, oh, okay, cool, you know.

And it's like a soul food restaurant. So like in some of my favorite food is like sole food. So like fried cafe is like collagery, all that stuff. So I see this guy, black guy walks in. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. So the guy that I'm with, you know, he's like, hey, he's his name is Dexter. He's like, hey, how you doing?

Something. He's like, oh, it's randomly. they see each other. So then shortly after another black guy comes in, and I'm like in uniform, another black police officer, I'm like, hey, what's going on? So then they just sit down. Like, as like one of those things, in my mind, I'm just thinking like, oh, they just so happened. This must be the hour. They come to lunch. So anyways, we're all eating together. By the time it was all set and done, there was like five black police officers there. I was like 30 black police officers. Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah, yeah. And they were not, they weren't just officers. Like,

they were like chiefs. There was like a chief there, a deputy chief. A captain. and then like a line level and then here I am in like my jumpsuit or like my sweatsuit from like college football because I was still living in my college football days. Even though I was like three years beyond that, I was still living my college football. Yeah, right? You know, back of my day. Back of my day. They were just trying to sell me on this idea. So I still wasn't even so.

I was like, no, man, I'm not doing that. So then fast forward to you later. Was your dad trying to get you on board? My dad was just like, nah, he didn't care either way. He was like, Ryan, like, you know Dexter? He was like, you. And I love Dexter this day. I appreciate him.

And Derek, Derek Williams, he's the Chief of Police over in Ontario. Those two guys with a few others, you know, I couldn't thank them more now. So anyways, fast forward. My wife gets pregnant. At the time, I was doing insurance for Primeraica. So, like, you know, and I learned a lot of lessons doing door-to-door sales. And, man, like, a lot of people would have bad experience. I look at those great experience, overcoming objections, how to sell people, all that stuff.

I got to stop you right there. Don't forget young guys and gals, if you're, if you're not. If you're in your teens, early 20s, you want to literally be able to print your own money. Go door-to-door sales. Sell solar. Yes. Sell insurance. Sell the fucking ring doorbell.

Sell whatever you need to door, deal with so much rejection that you become rejection-proof. Yes, that's exactly what happened. Yes. So I became rejection-proof. But at the time, like, and funny about that is when I got into the insurance business, I did really well within the first three or four months. Like, me and my wife won the company trip. like my first five, six months in the business,

and we actually used that as part of our honeymoon because we didn't really have that much money. So it was like to the University of Orlando and all the other stuff, but I did really, really well there. And so what I started to realize is I had, you know, God had gifted me with the power of influence. And so I started influencing people and I started getting over.

And I would, but it wasn't just my influence. I had to put the work in too. And so I started studying. Like I was listening to tracks of overcoming objections and, you know, studying like, but again, going back to the athlete mentality, I was always trying to put in the most work off the field so I could be the best when I got on the field. So long story short, you know,

the insurance thing isn't cutting it. My wife is like, hey, I'm working full time, brother. I'm pregnant. And like you at home acting like you working all the time and really not doing anything. I'm not seeing it in the bank account. Right. So I started praying.

I was like, if this is God, if this is what you want me to do, open the doors and not close the doors. And then that's what kind of sparked me to go into law enforcement. And I said, okay, this is, I guess I'll try it out. But those gentlemen really did have. have a big influence. Without a doubt, without a doubt, because I needed to see myself.

And that's where right now in law enforcement, some another need, and that goes back to the business, I know we'll talk about the minute, but like, another need in law enforcement right now is we're struggling to recruit new police officers. Like recruiting is at an all-time low for many reasons. Before obviously COVID, the market was doing super high. So in a good market, why go put your life on the line if you can go get another job making just as much money? another thing, the image, like the perception of law enforcement is debt tarnished.

So why would I want to go into a profession where people are going to cuss at me, yell at me, say F-12, all this other stuff? So you have all these things going against us, but most people would see that as like, oh, this is terrible. I saw it as opportunity. I said, look, if I can figure out the need or figure out the problem, I can figure out the solution. And so looking at those guys that help me, I'm like, shoot, I was able to see myself in them so if I can get other people to see themselves in them. so if I can get other people to see themselves than me, boom, now you have a solution. And so that's what kind of start to spark

of other ideas for my business. And before we go into there, let's talk about this level of self-awareness that you have. The moment I met you... Damn, I don't know how we met. It was a mutual friend introduced this. It was a... It was a...

Oh, my dad's friend. My dad's friend... Why am I... Yes, I put something on social media here in Chino Hills that I was looking for a local cop. I can't say why it has to do with the project. Steve Eli. Yes.

Yes. He reached out to me. He goes, I love what you're doing with the project. I know the cop. Yes. Yeah, and we can't talk about because then it will ruin the project for men who want to come do it in the future. But yeah, that's how we met.

I don't know where I was going with that. Self-awareness. Self-awareness. Where does this level of self-aware? In the moment I met you, I was like, this cat's self-aware. Like, where does this? this level of self-awareness come, where everyone else might see that, man, being a cop,

like half the people hate you immediately when you put on that badge in uniform. And people see it as like, well, again, pre-COVID, the economy's great. I can go get a job making the same amount of money or more without being hated by half the people. But you're like, you know what? I see opportunity here. I see if half the people hate me, I see opportunity. If I can get that half to like me, I can probably make money doing it. And by the way, there's nothing wrong with fixing something that's wrong and making money in the process. Right? Exactly.

I'm shocked that more cops weren't doing this in the 90s because in the 90s, the same problem existed. The same problem existed. And no one took the time that I know of to go, you know what, half the population hates us in communities. What if I can actually make money while getting that half to start respecting us and liking us and humanizing us? Exactly. And so where does that self-awareness come from? Is this mom and dad taught you? Is this genetic?

I think it's a mixture of a lot of things. It's, you know, my DNA. You know, I think that's just one of the things that God has put in my life or created me that way. But I think he utilized outside influences like athletics. Mom and dad, my dad was probably one of the most hardest working men I knew. And my dad was a very self-aware. Like, my dad was one of those guys like, if you did something to me, I was like, oh, I'm going to tell my dad. daddy because my dad was like very so aware like he didn't have no problem coming to cut you out like

it was what it does like and so but at the same time if i screwed up he was gonna let me know about it and he was not one he's not it wasn't like one of these newer generation parents that i like to say is that oh no my son could do no wrong like no like if anything at first he was like now what the heck did you do right and i had to convince him otherwise like no like i actually was in the good the good parent a good parent goes you're guilty until you yeah exactly until you're innocent then i'll go defend you yes Exactly. I'm like that with my kids. Yeah, so all of these things start developing to the self-awareness.

And I like, that's a good point you bring up because, you know, I'm not, no, I'm not naive to say that racism doesn't exist. It does. If you go down to the south, there's still places and cities right now that to this day are segregated. But unfortunately, I know a city in Atlanta, a good friend of mine is from there, big Rob, in Atlanta, at least up until five years ago. go Ryan, there's straight up signs to say if you're black and you're out once it gets dark or something to that effect, like watch out. Yeah, yeah. Like five years ago. Could be up there now. Yeah, there's a bridge in- fucking bananas. Yeah, there's a bridge in Georgia right now that says, I'm not going to, it says the N-word, but it says inward town. And you, on one side of the bridge is nothing but black people. On the other side is all the white people. And just, I've read an article like three years ago where they just had their first non-segregated palm in high school. Oh, wow. Just three years ago. That's weird. in California because we don't know we don't know yeah so anyways

I say I bring up all this to say is like you know as as African American you know we get in our own way the one thing each and every single one of us are afforded as human beings in general is the power of choice we have the choice to make up every day and wake up every

day and go do something to further our life will you probably been met with rejection yes will you be met with adversity yes I don't care whether you're white black Asian or whatever. Yeah, maybe if you're a different race, maybe you may not have as much. But I still have that opportunity to go out and make myself or make a choice to do good for myself. And so when we get caught up on just, oh, whoa, is me mentality. Like, I can't do anything

because you're putting me down and you're keeping me back. Well, you're also doing a disservice to yourself because you're believing and feeding them what they're saying. So my dad would always tell me, like, Brian, like you put your pants on just like anybody else. So even when I met you, even when I meet anybody that may have been, be somewhere like way where I'm trying to get in life, you know, well established, accomplished. At the back of my mind, I'm like, man, they're no better than I am. Exactly. And it may sound like a confident, cocky thing. But for me, in the back of my mind, I'll never forget.

There's a good speaker of mine, a friend of mine. His name is Eric Thomas. And I went to his conference probably like two years ago. And this is a conference probably about 300 people there. And so, you know, you have this sheet mentality. Major of those people, they're there, their entrepreneurs, they're trying to learn, which is great. No knock on them. No joke.

I'm on a group text with Eric Thomas, Joel Marion, Ed Milet, and Steve Weatherford. Really? Yeah. Like, there's this group text that. Shoot them a text and tell them that you, yeah. Yes, anyways. So I'm in this conference. And so I'm at this conference.

And as I'm sitting there, I just think differently. Like, as I'm sitting in the conference, I'm thinking like, man, everybody's here trying to figure out getting nuggets of how they can be best. better. But in this conference, I'm thinking like, man, how can I get to be on the stage where he's at and have all these people at my conference? So a year after that, I started in my, I bought the biggest ticket. And invest in yourself. That's another invest in yourself. Good words. So I bought the biggest ticket. There was a ticket for like $1,500. Most people would say, oh, man, I don't got that money. That ticket was an opportunity for me and like 10 or other 10 or 15 others to go and sit down to eat dinner with ET after this. So we sat, ate, broke bread. Not only did I meet E.T. I met a whole bunch of his other group guys that are now mentors of mine. And so fast forward a year later, we host my own conference for Breaking Bearers United. Never held a conference in my life. I probably lost about five years of my life freaking planning that conference and my wife.

But anyways, I was like, you know, I'm going to get some of the best speakers. Why not get one of the best speakers that I know of to come out? So I went out and created the opportunity to speak on the same stage as one of the number of one motivational speakers in the world. Whereas most people would say, man, I just want to be in the lineup or man, how can I get there? I'm like, I want to go create this opportunity. So when we want to say racism exists, yes, it does exist. But what are you going to do to create your own opportunity to go out there and have the same success that anybody else is afforded? And go. And let's bring that full circle for a moment. This is the beef that I had with everyone

posting up black tiles on Instagram the other day. And I know we started off with this. And I still have a few more questions to ask and we'll dive back into business again. Hey, that's great. Put up your black tile on Instagram. Let's raise awareness. But as you said earlier, what are you going to do about it? What are you going to do about it? Like, November is a few months away.

We can vote for police chiefs. We can vote for assemblymen. We can senators, congresspeople, president. Like, we have a lot of power. And then if you're a person of influence, you have a responsibility. Exactly. We have a social duty and a responsibility. If you put up a black tile, you better start literally influence.

when seeing the people that you have a voiceover and say, here's how you should vote if you don't want racism, bigotry, taxes, whatever your thing is that you don't want to continue. Because when I look at, and again, I'm not, I'm so pro-guns. I just love guns. I got gun on me right now. Exactly. That when I look at someone like Nancy Pelosi, who's been in power for 40 years, yet nothing has changed.

and we just have more and more rights in California getting eroded because of, and like maybe we need to stop revoting for the same people and consider really changing instead of just putting up a black talent moving on because I share, and you said earlier, you're like, hey, people talk about it because George Floyd died, but then it's going to go away. And proof of that is, did we just, Ryan, did we just cure COVID in one week? Hey, I ain't seen. Why the fuck are we not talking about COVID, Billy? With the exception of the guy that asked me where my mask was at.

Except that guy, that asshole. But seriously, everybody was dying. People were dying. Ventilators, fucking Ford and Chevy are making ventilators. Fuck the trucks. Let's make ventilators. Let's get cops to start making ventilators. Everyone's making ventilators.

People are dying. Now, no one's talking about COVID, man. I had to turn my iPhone off and then turn it back on. I was like, maybe my iPhone news. My Apple News isn't working right because all I see is buildings and towns burning and no one's talking about the COVID virus. And that's what's so frustrating because it's this sheet mentality. So I posted a black towel with a cross on it

But the thing and I told somebody this It was like I can do that Because I'm putting in the work to make sure I repair what's going on And I'm not trying to sit here and say that everybody has An obligation to go out there and start a business like I'm doing Like that's not realistic But what I'm saying is we can do things as simple as vote We can do things as simple as show up to your local town hall meetings

One of the most frustrating things was this for me is So I was a school resource officer and about six months ago there was a young boy that lost his life to bullying at a fight he basically these kids they tag team them they punched him in the face I think he was like I want to say he was like

12 years old maybe younger than that the kid hits the wall going down he hits his head on the wall and then they end up killing the kid so this happened in the city that I lived in at the time so I go not even at like this was not in my this was not part of my obligation

as a police officer, I didn't go there in honor of, or representing the agency I worked for. I went there as a parent of two boys and a young daughter. And I'm sitting there in this town hall meeting and it's freaking packed like walls and this and that. Everybody's in his town hall meeting like, what are you going to do? And I'm looking at the, as I'm in there, I'm looking at the principal to school and his tie seems like he's getting tighter and tighter and tighter. His face is getting red because he didn't have answers.

Then they're like, then they look at the people at the school board. what are you going to do? This is your fault. This is your fault. Then they're like, then they start arguing with you. So finally, I grabbed the mic and I'm like,

all I keep seeing right now is pointing to blame on people. And nobody, and everybody that's pointing to blame has no idea what it takes to be a principal. They have no idea what it takes to be an administrator. Where were you at five or six months ago at the school when we were talking about bullying?

Like, where were you at when we did the town hall meeting just to get ahead of this and we only have five people in the audience? People only show up when it's convenient to and then they leave when it's not. And that's what's so frustrating is because I'm in there and I've done I speak all over the country and What's crazy is I'll go to some of these town hall meetings with parents and you'll have six parents show up

You have six parents show up and and unfortunately in the African-American community sometimes It's frustrating as me because I am African American and yes, I am full black for those you guys that are wondering because I get that all the time Oh, you're not even full black both my parents are black and it shouldn't even matter but I say it because I've gotten that before but in the African American community We have a tendency to want all these problems or want to get all these problems solved and want to get all these problems, you know, you know, rid of, get rid of all these problems. But yet we don't show up to the things that are easy to do. We don't go. It takes you an hour out of your day to go to the town hall meeting for your son to see what he's doing in school.

That's the point. It takes you 15 minutes to just check up on your son and see how he's doing in the morning time. And so I'm not trying to sit here and say I'm on some pedestal. I'm not trying to say I'm better than the average person. I'm not, but I'm just aware of what needs to be done to provide solutions. So when I put up a black tile on my thing, I put up a black tile because I know that once this black pile comes down, I'm also going to show, going to go do the work. Well, you did the work beforehand.

I did the work after. And we put up a video, the day after the video, or the day after I put up a black tile, I put up a video on my social media page was when I got, Fox 11 did a news piece on me and it really broke down everything that I'm about. And I did that on purpose because I wanted people to see the actual work that I actually do for the situation that we're in right now.

Let's, there's a lot to unpack here. Yeah, my bad. No, no, no, no, no. I take great mental notes, so we're good here. You're speaking events. You're a full-time cop. Like, just the other day, you text, two days ago you texted me.

You're like, hey, I'm in front of BK's train. I'm like, hey, the family. and I are driving there, don't leave. And like, you were literally in a squad car. Yep. Right? And so it's not like you work part-time. No, I'm a full-time cop.

You're a full-time cop. My first job. So let's break the myth of people who say, I have a full-time job. How can I have a side hustle, let alone a full-on business that you're starting that involves, by the way, you're not just behind the computer typing shit. No. You have to get on a plane, stay at hotels, at different places, like prepare speeches. Yep.

Right? Yep. That in itself is a full-time venture. I know that. Yep. So how do you make the time to do this, Ryan? You also have three kids and a wife. Yes, I do.

Just time management and, you know, and listening to the people like, so when people, if you're listening to this podcast, don't just listen just to listen. Listen intentionally. Like every person I listen to, whether it's you, whether it's ET, whoever it may be Tim Grover, I listen with intent. And I try to, even if it's one thing that I take away from it, how can I apply it to my life and go out and do it? But again, it goes back to that athletic side of me. Because when I practice, there was intent behind the practice, and I was so I played good.

We have a tendency to fall into, you know, I'm going to listen and it makes me feel good. It's that immediate self-gratification made me feel good. But, okay, what are you going to do? It's almost like in my spiritual life. Like, you know, one of the things about being a Christian guy for me is like, you know, I've talked to people before and there's like there's a lot of hypocrite, a lot of hypocrisy. in Christianity. And I understand that because there is very, very true. So my point is is that in my spiritual life, I at the same time, when I'm taking notes, when I'm reading the Bible, or doing it, taking mental notes, I better make sure I'd be applying that as well in public

because people fall away from that because of the hypocrisy in it. And so this consistency, this intentional mindset I have, it goes throughout every layer of my life. And you're right, man like right now if I turn on my phone I've been my phones I'm blowing up since I've been here I got 414 unread text messages and I'm not even trying to sit there and say like oh they like oh look at me like no I got 414 or I don't know how many emails I feel honored that you get back to me immediately when I text well there's certain people I couldn't there's certain people that I take precedence in my life and so Billy's another one it's funny bill you shared a story with me yesterday and you know this is gonna be funny but we he called him and then you know we're talking for a few minutes talking about today

whatever and then he he texts me after he was like hey man my wife was like hey when I when he answered the phone he went to the the bedroom and got on the phone like he was talking to his girlfriend on the head yeah yeah he's the other woman yeah yeah I was like tell her don't be jealous but but there's certain people my wife obviously she's at the top of the list and so but either way as long as you are you time manage as long as you're and also it comes back to how much do you really care about it bingo bingo you find time for the things you prioritize that you see value in and then you find excuses for the things that you don't, period. And that's a big thing that I want to stress.

And so this not only is another revenue stream for you when you go up and speak, right? You have a speaking fee for it. But now you're creating something for, I guess, what's the word, young would-be police officers, right? You're creating another platform. So without getting in all the specifics of it, because I don't want somebody else to come out there and steal my stuff. But there's a need, like I said earlier, there's a need for recruiting.

There's a need to identify good people. applicants. George Floyd only emphasizes the need for getting good quality applicants. Another thing I always say is like, you know, when it comes to, you know, this priorities that we have as a country, there's this thing going around defund police.

I'm like, that's the stupidest thing that we can say. Like, why would you want to defund police? Like, people act like they can live a life without police. We saw in COVID, think about the first two weeks of COVID what people were doing at grocery stores. people were acting freaking crazy it was like a movie so we want to sit here

and live in this false reality that we don't need police we're freaking dumb second of all the thing that why would you want to defund somebody that could have your life

at their hands like why would you want to take money and resources away from the person who's like your life may be in the hands up like so if we I remember living in Vegas

and I love Vegas and you know about the time was going out of the time and I found out DJs were making like 300,000 dollars a night to spend to like to to play music i'm like they made 300 grand to play music i was like

but yet you want to take money out of the the hands of somebody that could potentially kill you so you want to say oh you know what all these officers are under trained these officers you know they need more certification but yet you don't want to put money into the into the pockets of where that training is going to go like we're so confused in so many ways because it sounds popular It's popular not to like police. It's popular to say, like, I'm all about, if you stand by Black Lives Matter and that's your platform, I'm all about it if you really see there's a need. But my thing is, is don't do it because it's popular. And that's what social media, unfortunately, is created is we do things because it's popular.

And that's why I've gone back to say, like, if you have influence on social media, you have responsibility. Whether you like it or not, you have a responsibility. And if you don't like it, then get off of it. Really good point. and so this is going to go right back to your self-awareness in one you were like hey half the population on average from the stats I've read and you probably know the stats better like I read one stat that was just shocking it said the moment a man or woman puts on the badge half the people in that city hate them half the people in that city love them right and so you're like well shoot I got half the people in

any given city whose minds I can change, who I can influence, who, and you were again self-aware enough to remember that, well, wait a minute, I was young, and I had an impression about cops that some cops were assholes, some, most weren't. And so you found an opportunity to create money and to create change there. And then now, again, without going into great details, you're finding opportunity that, hey, cops need more training. And if I could be the source of that training, I could make money and police departments might be more likely to hire

these young men and women who have gone through my training because they are less of a risk to the department and the city they work for. 100%. If somebody still tries to steal my stuff, I'm coming after you. And I'm going to back him up.

And I ain't got a gun, but I could fight like a motherfucker. It's problem solution. All of life is problem solution, man. And I just love that mentality. And I want to share this again with the audience. Full-time cop, full-time parent, has a speaking event that he does and bringing communities together and now launching another platform.

And if that's not time management, if that's not energy management, that's not resource management. And if he said it best, paying for knowledge, you know, buying that $1,500 ticket, knowing that you're going to have access because most people go, I can't afford that $1,500. Pete, you're going to spend that $1,500 off your credit card no matter what. Is it going to be for a shitty-baked? that you're only going to have memories and regret about, or is it going to be $1,500 spent to make a connection and network that's going to... Exposure.

Right? Exposure. We fail because we don't have exposure a lot of time. Yeah. So that's great entrepreneurship lessons there from you. And to treat every single job or business that you launch as a sport. Like, be competitive, be athletic in it. But that said, you said something in the very beginning, and I want to come back to it.

You said, most of my friends that I grew up with, and you said most. Ryan, most of my friends that I grew up with didn't have both parents. Were most of your friends black or were you saying most of my friends? No, so growing up, most of my friends were black. And when I went to Vegas, obviously I started getting friends from different nationalities stuff because you're from all over the world. But yeah, most of my friends growing up, most of my friends didn't either have both parents in their life.

if they did, it might have been, you know, step or something like that. And, you know, I never forget, man. But I initially became a police officer. I went down to the jail to take somebody in jail. And I saw this, when I got there, I saw this guy that I knew immediately. I was like, man, like, that's my boy I grew up with. And he was in his uniform. I was in my uniform.

He was in an orange uniform. I was in a black uniform. Oh, shit. Okay. I'm thinking like he was like a guard or something. No, no. Okay, you got me there. Yeah, I know.

That was my point. So, yeah, so he's in there. So, you know, I say what's up to him. And that's, I think, one of the reasons why, you know, I stand by everything I preach. If you came on a ride along with me today, you'd be like, man, let's do everything he says he actually does in the public. So I still treat folks who will respect. Which, by the way, Joan, can you set up a ride-along? We go make it happen.

Yeah, we keep talking about it. Yes, we don't make it happen. Now, I don't know if you got can go now, but now would be a great time, like in this time of. Yeah, exactly. So we had So anyway I saw him and I recognized man This was one of my childhood friends Like grew up with him, knew his mom

All that's like real close And I went back to the I went back to the The computer to look up What he was in there for he was in there for murder And so I was like galley And that wasn't the first person I saw And then I saw another person like

That was in there You know for he was just strung out on drugs And so like I've had In a short period of time of my life My dad had a conversation on me said, Ryan, when you get older, some people were going to go get married. Some people were going to have big businesses. Some people are going to be very, very successful. But then you're going to have those that get strung out on drugs.

Some to get killed. Some that, you know, die of suicide. And at the time, I was like, yeah, whatever, pops or whatever. It's like, you can't say anything. Right. He was so right. And, like, in the short period from high school to college, I probably lost about 15 to 20 my friends. I've had friends murdered.

I had my buddy of mine was shot five times in his driveway. I had a friend, I had a buddy of mine that was beat to death by one of his friends because he was trying to protect that guy's girlfriend, or he was trying to protect his girlfriend that he was beaten up. Then I had multiple friends die in car accidents. I've had multiple friends die of suicide in a short period of time of my life. And so going back to your original question of like, you know, how I grew up and, you know, whether or not that plays a part in our society, it does tremendously. Like, one of the things I hate, go back. to COVID-19. You know, in COVID-19, everybody was like, oh, you know what?

You got to stay inside. You got to wash everything down. Get chlorox, wipe everything down. Instead of getting to the root of the issue, most of the people are dying from COVID-19 were at high blood pressure. We're either diabetic or whatever. Overweight? So why are we not telling people to work out?

Why are we not telling people, hey. Well, that might offend them. Hey, you're, because it's like, oh, you're fat shaming. No, I'm trying to save your fucking life. Go get a gym membership. Go do something because that is. the root of the issue. So the same thing as a country, when we talk about why are we so divided, well, we got to go way back. Like, we can't just say like, hey, we're here because of whatever

happened last week. No, go way back to the home. We're here because somebody grew up in a single parent home. Somebody was raised with only a mom. Somebody was raised with only a dad. Like, that really does play a part in the way kids are raised. And I can say that because I spent not only my childhood in my experiences, but I spent a year and a half working as a school research officer and I have some of those craziest stories dealing with these kids at the school and the stories that they would tell me and I would see where they come from and I'm like wow like this is this is some real stuff so that's why that that question that you asked about being coming from a single parent home plays so true so let's talk about that for a moment and um all I know is how to

be transparent and authentic so I'm going to be exactly as I am my very first friend in the United States his name is Duane black kid who I met in the apartment section 8 apartment complexes shade tree apartments in San Ana where we lived I was six years old I didn't speak English he was just like hey look another kid kids speak kids right you don't have to know the language we just run around goofing off and I remember the first time he took me into his apartment I met his mom she cook food for us and I waited for you know like I know my dad's coming home from work right now. His dad never showed up. I later learned there was no dad. It was just him and his younger

sister and mom. And a young man that I mentor, his name is Layton. He actually teaches my son how to skate. He's a black kid. He's 23 years old now. I've known him since he was 10 years old. His mom, toy, single black mom, dad was in prison. Toy was a client of mine in my boot camp that I had here. This is way before FitBody Boot Camp. I'm talking 2005, 2006. At Butterfield Ranch, March, I ran boot camp. I was graduating from high school.

Were you? Yeah. Okay. So, damn, I'm that old? Hey, man. What year did you graduate? 2005. I'll be 33 on Sunday.

Oh, my God, dude. I'm 45. But I feel 33. That's the thing. That's all that matters. But happy early birthday in case I forget to text you on Sunday. But, so anyway, Layton, single family home again. Both Duane and Layton grew up very strong, respectful, put together.

But Toy was like vigilant. Like when I was training her in a group of ladies at Butterfield Ranch Park, Leighton was there with his little skateboard, skating around. And as soon as he would go around a curve in the park, Butterfield Ranch Park, and Toy couldn't make eye contact. She would get back over here. She would yell. Like that.

Right. Right. Like, and he'd come right around the corner. I was like, fuck, that's how Duane's mom was. And I think both moms knew that I have to take the mom and the dad role here. Yes. That was the differentiating factor with Duane and Leighton. And today, Leighton, I mentor this young man, and I'm just so proud of him.

And he always brought me to tears because he was sitting right in your seat last week sometime interviewing me for his show on YouTube. And talking about full circle, man. He was like a little puppy, a little 10-year-old kid, right? and now he's married and he's starting his own business I got him to quit men's warehouse down here and he's starting his own business teaching his own business teaching skate yeah so

but I share all that with him actually yeah a men's wearer yeah very bright okay very bright well okay at men's warehouse he probably wore suit but he also has a clothing line so very much like all great entrepreneurs like you and me he's got like so he's teaching skating

and he's got he's creating his own clothing line that's very bright in colors and he can pull it off because he's he's got swagger for days. But anyway, I share this with you, but most black men grew up in a home without a dad. This is a statistic. You said it. The statistics prove it. And I'm going to ask you something. I agree. Black Lives Matter. So if Black Lives Matter, why are we not taking care of all black

fucking dads who are leaving those women. Why are we not taking care of all black? What's going on? Yeah, it's sad. There's a book called The Boy Crisis. And it really talks about the boys being raised in single parent

families. And there's something, there's a certain bond that a boy has with his dad that he needs. That even the mom can't provide as hard as she tries. And shout out to all the single moms out there. You guys, man, like,

Without you, we couldn't be who we are. You're so strong, independent, but there's certain things boys need from a dad. And so it's okay to say black lies matter, but don't just say it because of at the hands of police. Black lies should matter at the hands of everything. It should matter when it comes to us raising our kids. It should come to us, you know, not killing each other in the streets.

Like I'm black crime. Exactly. It should not come to us, you know. It should matter in every facet of our life. same thing with every other race. The one thing, and you know it's funny, this one guy yesterday gave me this perspective that I never even looked at it like this,

but the whole comparison of black lives matter because some people will say, oh, well, yeah, white lives matter and blue lies matter and all the other stuff. But somebody else, this white guy told me, it was a good analogy, he was like, would you go to a breast cancer awareness event talking about lung cancer matters?

And I was like, oh, that's kind of deep. He was like, so the whole analogy of why they're saying black lives matters, they're saying, hey, it matters now, But going back to your point is, yes, it matters now. Black lives matter now because we are dealing with George Floyd's death, which was, and I don't know if I've said this on this episode today, but it was unjustified. Without a doubt, we didn't even were getting the specifics of that.

But as a police officer, I'm telling you, there was nothing justifiable about that incident involving George Floyd. So yes, Black Lives Matter, and it does, at the time right now, we do need to raise awareness for that situation. And our history and society, I did a video about this the other day about where we come from, slavery and all the other stuff and civil rights. there are things that we can't try to hide and sweep one of the rug as Americans, we can still move on from. But at the same time, if we're going to say Black Lives Matter as a Black man, it needs to matter an all facets of my life.

When I raise my kids, you know, how I'm raising him to treat other people, making sure that he values other, not just Black Lives, but other life in general. And so that's what we need to get to as a society and start just saying it because it sounds catchy. And it just, it just irritates me that people just say stuff because it's just, And that's the thing that gets me, right? Because, again, I had a very unique perspective as a foreigner growing up, so my skin's not black. I've got a beautiful olive skin, and I tan really well.

I never burned, by the way. I tan it's so good. You get that good, a lot of... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I grew up, when you grew up in Section 8 housing, like a lot of the neighborhood, a lot of the apartment complex was full of African Americans, full of black kids. And, in fact, two dudes that Dwayne introduced me to,

He introduced him to white kids, Mexican kids, but two dudes, Torrance and Demetrius, who we were all friends with, ended up being mortal enemies by the time we got into high school, bro. That's fucking mortal enemies. And I saw Black on Black Crime. It's crazy.

Two friends that we would play snake in the grasses, little fucking kids at Shade Tree Apartments ended up being mortal enemies, and I experienced black on black crime first time. Like, you guys were fucking friends. We would eat each other's house. I know, it's crazy. And I tell people, you know, it's funny,

I tell people like, hey, look, like if you're going to say black lives matter like that's all good and daddy but what are you doing like i was just saying i can confidently say for the police standpoint i'm going to i call out bad cops like it is what it is like and it's hard and people don't even understand how hard and the inherent dangers that comes with because i'm still a full-time cop so if i go out there and i have been involved in a use of force i've been involved in the shooting before if for whatever reason that doesn't go right what do you think that the defense attorney's going to do right away they're going to go and pull up all my content. Every breakdown I've done. So I, there's inherent dangers that

come to that and I acknowledge it, but I still recognize it needs to be done in order to move forward. But the reason I bring it up is because I'm out there. If you want us as law enforcement officers to change the way you are treated and get your due rights, I'm doing my part. Like, you will never be able to say, hey, Ryan didn't do what he's what. Like, I'm doing my part. But I also need you to do your part and govern your communities, whether you're black, white, Asian, or anything. Governing yourselves. Govering the way. And I hate when people, People say like, oh, you know, because I'll bring up, or people bring up, oh, well, black on black crime and they'll be like, well, if you look at the statistics and this and that, proportionally or the economic downfall. It's like, stop using all these freaking excuses.

Go out there and police our community. We can go for days and talk about numbers. I can talk about numbers all day. It starts with the tribe. It starts with the tribe. It starts with the parents at home. And, hey, listen, man, I get it. You had sex.

Oh, shit. She got pregnant. Like, you're a man. And I'm speaking to men now. You're black, you're white, you're Asian, you're Mexican. It doesn't matter. I'm speaking to men right now. You're a man, you got her pregnant, do the manly thing.

Man up. Man up. Truly, because you have a responsibility for that child that's about to be born, and now is going to have a perception of dad left. So at the very least, they feel I'm not lovable. I'm not worthy. At the very least, on the high end, I'm a piece of shit, and I'm just going to have gotten caused crime.

Yeah. And if we're raising our kids that way to not have value. So full circle here. You ask me where I get that self-awareness. I get it from not only my Lord and Savior, but I also get it from my parents. Because they told me at a young age, like, you can do whatever the heck you want to do.

Don't ever let anybody tell you you can't do what they can't do. Don't ever let anybody do that. You can go and do it just as much as anybody else can. We'll take work, yes. So when we devalue our young boys, our young girls, and tell them that they're not, if I tell my sons that you're not a piece of crap, or even let's say I don't even tell them,

that but I walk around and carry myself like that, how are they going to look? If I don't treat my wife, if I don't love her, if I don't take care of her, what kind of, what am I showing for my daughter of what she needs to find in a man? That's going to allow her to go out and find some freaking piece of crap turd that wants to treat her however because that's how I treat her my wife. So that self-awareness is important in every area of your life. And so, you know, entrepreneurship has this negative connotation to it sometimes because people think, oh, you're just trying to get over, you're just trying to make some money on me. When I first started and everybody, like, when people find out that, oh, BBU is not a nonprofit,

they're like, oh, really? Oh, that's kind of weird. I'm like, it's a win-win. Like, you can do the right thing and still make money. And this is what I'm going to lead. I'm going to end on this note for this part is like, look, when I work a 40-hour, 40-a-week job, just like you said, I have a full-time business. I have to make sure my boy Billy eats.

I have a lot of stuff that I have to do. nonprofits are great. They're all great. And I'm actually in the process. I'm going to be starting a nonprofit. So don't get me wrong. And by the way, I'm going to work my hardest to talk you out of that off camera. That's a different issue.

Okay, cool. So they're important. They have its place. But when I leave, when I leave my to go to my 40-hour a week job, who do you think suffers, my wife and kids? When I go do my business, who do you think suffers, my wife and kids? So I do, there does need to be a level of compensation so I can make that because you cannot make time back.

You can't. Right. So at the same time, though, you can still form a LLC or whatever it is you want to do and do it for the right reasons. I've created a win, win, win for everybody. So one thing we didn't touch on today is what my actual business model looks like. I have my speaking business, which is where I travel. I speak to police officers. And when I speak into police officers, I'm talking about recruiting and retention.

How to recruit the next generation officers and how do we retain them? I have my after-school programs. And what my after-school programs consist of is I hire police officers outside of their day job to come and mentor kids in schools to not only about law enforcement, but just to be big good brothers and sisters. Why do I do that? Because I recognize a lot of kids don't have both parents in the house. So they need a mentor in their life just like I have a mentor. So I created a win-win structure where I can pay the officers that are away from their own families to go mentor somebody else's kids. Win-win structure.

We have the recruiting platform that we're in the process of doing to help people get hired in the law enforcement. We have our podcast called It's Needed, which is strictly for branding purposes and to really raise awareness to law enforcement in the community. I bring all that up to say this, is that you can go out there, have a full streamline business for the right reasons to do the right things and not have to fall into that category of being, oh, he's just trying to scheme on me to make money on me. You can do the right thing for the right reasons. Exactly. You can create change and you can create pocket change the same time. Yes, you can. Yes, you can.

And so to that point, I want to end on something, what just, just, you can. it was humors to me. I love when comedians use humor because I believe it brings down the wall. It brings down everyone's guard when they use humor to teach a lesson. And so I saw a piece, I'm a big Chris Rock fan,

and I saw a piece where he talks about a no offense here, because you're a cop. I know what's the episode you're talking about. It's hilarious. The bad apple, right? He's like, yeah, people are just saying, oh, that cop's just a bad apple.

He's just a bad apple, a bad apple. He goes, American Airlines, he goes, in some professions, you can't have bad apples. He goes, imagine if American Airlines said, all our pilots are good. We just have a couple of bad apples. Most of them are good. Like, most of them, like 99% are good. They will land the plane.

But just a few bad apples like to fucking crash that plane into a mountainside. And he made a good point, like certain industries, we simply cannot have bad apples. And you are leading the fight against that. Yes, 100%. Yeah. It has to be led. It's a zero-something. I mean, you just can't have bad apples. No. We, we, I think single-handedly, you know, people would beg to differ. If you look up the top 10 dangerous jobs, law enforcement is maybe towards the end of it, maybe not even on the list.

You have, like, professionals like loggers and things like that. But I truly believe we have the most dangerous job and the most difficult job. Because when I pull you over, I don't know who I'm pulling over. I can be pulling over you that just escape from prison, federal prison, and you're not going back, where I can be pulling over a soccer mom and not even know it. Right. You know, I share a story, you know, the, you talked about my samurai story earlier. Yeah, I'd love for you to share that story after you make this point.

Yeah, it's just, we just have a dangerous job. We don't know who we're dealing with. And so when people say we target and this and that, have there been officers that, you know, have racially targeted people, yes. And we can't sit here and act like that has not happened. And it doesn't happen in certain places. I can tell you, in California, law enforcement is way different. And we're really ahead of the curve on a lot of stuff.

It's illegal here. So it's a very difficult job going to my samurai story really, really briefly. One time I got called to, it was a call for service basically. You were a new cop when this. I was a new cop. I was a new cop. It was fairly new. Yeah.

So we got, I was called for service. Hey, guy just stabbed his dad with a samurai sword. So this was towards the end of my shift too. So I'm getting ready to go home. I'm thinking about some apple pie. I got in the refrigerator. I'm like, man, I'm already like checked out. Right.

Get this call. I'm like, God, leave, man. So anyways, I'm driving there at the time. Bruno Mars, it just came out with like 24 keros. I'm like got my music turned up. It's so funny too because, you know, we get this image of like, you know, police officers just being all like. You guys can bump music.

Oh, all time, man. Oh, heck yeah. It's funny because you guys will be like, I can't wait to go on a ride along now. Like, what am I doing being a CEO? People will be behind it. Like, you'll be in front of us and I'll be behind you and you guys are all tensed up, like white knuckled and stuff like that. Y'all don't even realize I'm like eating, reaching for like greasy,

Cheetos, greasy McDonald's, whatever. So anyways, I'm driving to the call for service. Get there. As I get out of my car, this guy comes from behind me. He's like, oh, snap. Like, there's really samurai out here tonight. Like, this is not a game tonight. So I get back in my car because I'm not about to be ninja swiped.

Like, that's not, like, not today. Like, that ain't happening today. So I get back in my car. Wait, it was the guy with the samurai sword who came back? I'm assuming. So I didn't know. Okay, yeah. You're not going to stand around.

Some guys, like, come in, I just hear him yelling. So I retract. And then as I get back, like, as I retract to, you know, reposition my car, like, my partners have found this. guy and like we're trying to take this guy in custody and so as we're trying to take him in custody like like my partner asby i'm like asby tases him she tases them like five times and it doesn't work like ineffective my man's like foaming at the mouth like oh yeah it's crazy so i'll pull my baton and i'm like man shoot i've been benching 315 pounds like i'm in tip

tip top shake could have been the NFL so i hit my man the leg like boom and my man just looks at me i'm like oh snap's like this dude did not i was like you just going to act Like my hit didn't hurt in front of my friends. Like so anyways. So we hit him another time and doesn't work. So finally, it took about six or seven of us to take this guy into custody. And when we take him in a custody...

Wait, is he holding the sword this whole time while he's being... No, the sword's not there. So now the sword's gone. Yeah, he didn't have the sword. He didn't come out with the sword. Okay, okay, got it. He's just not going down. He's just not going down.

So finally we get this guy into custody. And what we didn't realize was that I looked down the street and what I see is the whole neighborhood out of like three. o'clock in the morning. Oh shit. So perspective. The whole neighborhood, all they do is see a bunch of cops on top of this guy. Yep. So they automatically, you go on Chino Connect, we were like, police brutality, oh my goodness, this is it so stupid. Oh my goodness. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Not even realizing that the dude just freaking try to kill his dad. He misses his heart by like that much. Dad ended up living. Dude was like strung out on all types of crazy drugs, whatever it was,

but it just talks about perspective. And that's what also makes our job so difficult. I was talking to Joan earlier and I was like you know we just saw that they just charged those guys in George Floyd rightfully so but I was like and she was and we were talking about the protests and how it seems like the protests are working because they're filing charges and stuff like great I was like but that's also dangerous and the reasons it's so dangerous is because it shows that if people are emotionally charged based off of a video they see and not know the context they can easily try to up some charges on me because they're emotionally charged by and people feel the pressure that they have to react to that.

Yes. Our lawmakers do feel that pressure. And it's so scary because I can literally, I can be in your studio today doing this podcast and next week go out and get a use of force incident that was considered controversial and because of pressure put on people because of our climate, they can hike charges up to murder on me.

Because people don't realize the moment we pull our gun out if I shoot, I'm charged, if I kill them, I'm charged a murder suspect. If I miss, I'm charges the tent murder suspect. It's not like we just go back home and just like, everything's all good, go back to my day though they're like, no, I'm a suspect in a crime at that point in time. I have to get a lawyer at that point in time. Like, people don't realize that. Whoa. People think that we just go back home and we're just chilling. I was involved in a shooting. Can't get into the specifics of it, but I was involved in a shooting. And the first thing I had to do,

they took me back to the station. And one of the first things they told me to do is like, hey, we're going to call your attorney. And I'm like, are you like, so they call my attorney and talk to her. And I'm freaking nervous at this point because now I'm serving the second guess. Like, did I not make the right decision? Like what was something wrong? And so she has to go through, she has to talk to everybody, interview everybody. She's like, hey, don't talk to people. Can't talk to nobody about it.

So not only do I feel the internal pressure of like, man, did I make the right decision, I can't talk about it with nobody. It's an investigation. It's a criminal investigation. So they're out there investigating this whole situation. Then you have to, she has to tell you, well, you have the ability to give a voluntary statement to detectives or you can say no.

So that was a, moment because it's like well shoot like what do I do? I've never been in this situation before. Then you fast forward if you don't give that voluntary statement they have something that's called the liebarger which basically forces you to talk and if you don't talk

they can fire you. They say I'm ordering you to talk about that situation and if you don't you can be fired and this is not a knock on the criminal this of anything it's telling people like there are measures in place to make sure we get rid of bad people so at that moment of time they read me the same

rights that I read to the same people I take to jail. Are you just tripping out in that moment? Like, what the hell? And they tell you before, they brace you like, hey, I don't want you to flip out when you're in here, but just know, like, we're going to read you your Miranda rights. You have the rights to remain inside it. Anything you say can it will be used against you in the court of law. You have the right to an attorney, you have the right to have an attorney having

present with you while you're being questioned. If you cannot afford to hire an attorney, one would be a point to represent you before questioning if you wish one. The same rights I read to people that I arrest where the same. same rights they read to me when I fired my gun because I had it I was trying to stop an imminent threat to the public. So when we sit here and say like there is no measures in place to guard against crooked cops there are. Could it be better? Yes. But we can't get full to think that we just go home and just go to sleep and sleep well at night. Imagine if we kill people. Not only do we have

to deal with the external legal stress and the pressures of losing everything, but you also have to deal with the fact that you took another person's life. Whether it was justified or not, it still doesn't make it easy. Well said. How do people find you? Find me on Instagram, breaking underscore barriers, underscore United. I get that right, Billy. And then you can find us on Facebook, Breaking Burriers United, YouTube channel, Breaking Burris United. And am I missing any ones? Podcast, yes. Podcast, man. That's the big of my bad. I want to be on that podcast. Oh yeah, you are. We already got it. Me and Joan have already talked about it. So it's needed podcast. and that is spelled ITS N-E-E-D-D. It's needed.

And the reason that where that came from is anytime anybody asked what my business was, and I start telling them, they're like, oh, my goodness, that's so needed. It's needed. So I was like, let's just call it it. It's needed. Well, Ryan, bro, I appreciate you, one, being transparent, two, being entertaining, because at the end of the day, all information that you're going to find on podcast videos, whatever, if there's no entertainment, people are just going to stop watching.

Nobody lives. And you are, you do have the gift of entertaining and self-war. awareness and entertainment is important because that's how you also get your message across when you're speaking to other cops schools kids etc and i really appreciate you making the time to come out here today with your busy schedule and the fact that you've been sending me pictures like just so you guys know could i say what department you work for it yeah that's fine yeah Ryan works for chino our neighboring city here in chino hills but you guys have been loaned out to different cities like san bradino county etc yeah because of the riots that are going on yeah you're sending me pictures of you and riot gear yeah and shit and then he's

here you are in the studio. In my J's. Yeah, yeah. Appreciate jay. So dapper. All right, guys and gals, thank you so much for watching and listening to this episode of The Empire Show. As always, the goal is to make money and to use that money to have massive meaning and impact

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