Bedros Keuilian Podcast Show - Wes Watson: How to Get Your Life Together - 131

Episode Date: January 6, 2020

On this episode of Inside Look, Bedros sits down with Wes Watson to talk about his experience in prison and how everything in his life has shaped him to be the man he is today. Wes has zero regrets and credits his inner peace to a prison cell. Bedros and Wes discuss prison life and how to grab your life by the reigns! Listen and hear what you can learn from Wes’ experience in and out of the penitentiary.    “Outward validation is directly linked to expectations.” “The only thing that really does anything for me, is when I can do it for someone else.” “Depression is a selfish person’s disease.” “Adversity introduces a man to himself.” “The way you do something, is the way you do anything.” “You’re not going to live long enough to make all the mistakes yourself.” - Wes Watson   Here’s what you’ll discover: 04:00 - How to look at the problems in your life. 12:50 - Positive self talk comes from stacking wins. 20:16 - Why are you anxious? 21:56 - If your depressed, forget about yourself. 25:42 - How your race plays a big part in prison.  36:22 - Gaining inner peace is the key. 42:33 - Why you should embrace suffering. 43:48 - Keep challenging yourself!   “You have to live through other people's experiences.” “The one thing we can directly have control of is our personal mindset and our health and fitness.”  - Bedros Keuilian   --   ► Follow us on Instagram: @bedroskeuilian / @watson_fit   ► Visit Watsonfit at: https://www.watsonfit.com   ► Buy Man Up and get Bedros’s High Performance Leadership Course for FREE: https://manup.com/   ► Make sure to review us on iTunes: http://bit.ly/theempireshow   ► Subscribe to My Channel for weekly videos every Monday & Friday: http://www.youtube.com/bedroskeuilian/?sub_confirmation=1   Youtube: http://bedrosmedia.com/131

always been a problem solver. I still am till this day. And for some reason, I just, I'll never sit there and dwell on the problem. I'm just going straight to the solution. That's where everyone's missing it. I mean, they spend too much time in that negative state looking at the problem in a negative way, instead of just fucking seeing all the ways it's going to work out. From living a life of freedom to 10 years in the penitentiary to live in the American dream. Hey, I'm Bedros Kulian. This is the Empire Podcast show. And I'm here with my friend Wes Watson. And we're about to do the inside look. Wes, welcome to the show. What's going on,

Yeah, stoked to be here. Stoke to be here. So I was perusing YouTube, and as YouTube does, it starts recommending stuff. And it says something about penitentiary life. And I was like, wait a minute. Let's see what this guy's about. And it was one of these experiences where I'm watching you talk, and I could see your rage and your anger,

and I could see how you just want to help people and be a servant at the same time. And that's what, that was the golden thread that caught my attention. So explain to me why you're making these videos on YouTube and giving away so much, I guess, wisdom that you've gathered through the penitentiary and beyond. I mean, the biggest thing we could ever do for anyone, this is everybody's agenda in life, is to share what works for you on all levels and what doesn't work for you on all levels. What doesn't work is probably more beneficial to everybody. So I'm willing to just share it all. I'm willing to be factual. I'm only to tell, hey, hey, I've been there.

that bitch. I've been that fake tough guy. I've been that guy who walked down the road that he didn't want to walk down and had too big of an ego to walk back the other way like a fucking man. That's an interesting statement there. So moving forward or back, I should say, in your story, it starts off in Oceanside, California, which is suburbs of San Diego, beautiful San Diego, my old stomping grounds before I got married and moved to Chino Hill. That's a spot. This is a spot, man. And you're you were a snowboarder, skateboarder. skateboarder, surfer, you know, you're touring, getting paid, and at some point, you decide you're just going to sell a little bit of weed just enough to get yourself some weed for free.

How does that all roll into a 10-year penitentiary term? It started off at like 13, where I started to smoke a weed and I'm like, I'm like, fuck this, I'm not paying for this shit. Like seven grams is X amount of dollars if I buy every gram for 20 bucks. I don't have money like that. So I'm just going to buy a quarter. I'm going to save up. I'm going to buy a quarter. I'm that type of individual. Once I have a set plan, I'm sticking to it. Even from a young kid? Yes, from a young age. Like at 13, I was looking

up my credit score. I was tripping on stuff like that to my parents. They're like, like, why is this guy getting stuff sent to him about his FICO score and shit like that? So I mean, I was just already and then, I mean, fast forward like to 15. I'm already at the Cadillac dealership. Like, I'm going to buy the shit. The second I turn 16, but I just would, I'd buy a small amount, break it down until I built myself up. By the time I was 16, I'm handling pounds. My brother was, you know, almost two years older. So all the older crowd was who I, who I fucked with. That's who I ran with. And they all just bought shit off me. I was just more structured. I was more disciplined. I had more of a vision. My vision was I just, I got to have the stuff I didn't have. I got to

have money because I grew up and money was our only visible issue. We had love. We had a family. We had everything. Like, we just were lower middle class. So money was just the only thing I saw as the problem. So you think that was the motivator to since that's the problem that we have. We have love. We have a house. Two parents, but there's always a lack of money. We're always probably running out of money before we run out of a month, right? Always. And so you decide that that's the one thing I'm going to chase. Yeah, that's the thing I'm going to change. I'm going to make it better. I can. I've always been a problem solver. I still am until this day. And for some reason, I just, I'll never sit there and dwell on the problem. I'm just going straight to the

solution. That's where everyone's missing it. I mean, they spend too much time in that negative state looking at the problem in a negative way instead of just fucking seeing all the ways it's going to work out. I always just saw the ways it's going to work out. And it was it was never doing too many things at once. It was like, let's just get this money first. So I was just, let's just get this money first. And I had all the wrong agendas, the wrong ways of getting it and just was, it was just get money at all costs. So then just over time that obviously that lust for money that that absolute power corrupts absolutely is the truest thing. So me at a young age, driving an escalade to high school.

I mean, by the time I was 18, I was in the new Range Rover. I mean, I always pulled up to Big Bear where I snowboarded in the newest shit. Like, I just validated myself through that money. So therefore, my belief is that what we validate ourselves within our heart is who we draw around us. So I drew horrible people around me who were just about the money, about nothing more. So then I just had this fucked up group of people around me. And then I had my fucked up vision.

I was actually creating this fucked up group of people around me. Did you realize it then? I didn't realize it until about five, six years ago that our true heart's validation of self, when we validate ourselves and our heart truly is what we teach our people to validate us through. So even the father who is successful and tries to teach his son good principles, if in his heart he's speaking to his son heart to heart that money is everything, he is going to create a fucking spoiled little brat.

If he's not sitting down and in his heart validating himself with his principles and teaching that to his son, he's going to fuck that shit off even though he was way successful. So let's talk about that for a moment. And I want you to think back to when you were maybe six, seven, eight, nine, ten, when you start becoming aware that, well, shit, everything's great in our household. It's just money's the only issue. And money is a pretty big issue because in this life you need money for everything. What could your mom and dad have done different? to maybe not get you, to not get your greed glands to secrete so much. Could they have done anything? It just would have been, I mean, they were dope.

My dad is the hardest fucking working construction dude ever. Like this motherfucker, since like 17 years old, worked every day of his life. Like the hardest working dude. My mom was a hairdresser for most of life and then a stay at home mom. But it was just,

they were just so young. They didn't have the time to sit down and gather this wisdom through self-realization and through reflection. So, I mean, the point was is they just, they couldn't see it.

The problem they had created, they were in the too much too deep in that mindset to even see the solution. So I mean, the point was is that what they could have done differently now is to my dad to sit down and be like, look, I'm a hardworking motherfucker. I take pride in that.

I go to work because it makes me proud. Fuck this money. We have a roof over our heads. You'd be a proud-ass man, you know? And that's what it would have been, but I get that from him. And I saw that in him. And I always admired him for being a, this dude's like six. 64, 65, like 280, veins all up and through this shit, never even worked out, just solid-ass dude. And that's what I always saw in him, how strong he was.

And in all reality, that he did transfer that over, but since there is that amount of always stressing on money, then that was in the back of our heads, too. So that kind of created me. I wanted to be big and strong like him, but I didn't want the fucking money problems. Gotcha. Ain't that something? So you fast forward, you're driving a big bear in your land rover. Yeah, yeah.

That's on, was it 20 inch or 22 inch as Sontes? I had 22 inch of Sontes. I had the black on black one right when it came out, the O3, the new box. And so this was, what, 15 years ago? Yeah, I just fucking. So those of you watching and listening to this, 15 years ago, the Assontes, even now they're big, but back then, like Assonty's were the wheels. Yeah, they're like $8,000. Yeah.

So you're rolling up the big rear like that. You're obviously making money side cash from selling weed. At what point do decide enough is enough? Oh, there wasn't enough. And everybody I know who gets in this position. We're getting packs. We're getting hundreds of pounds at a time. We're getting $300, like $300 on each pound.

So I'm giving half to one person, half to another, on either between 100 pounds or 250 pounds. When you say half to one person, half to another, meaning you go sell it, you go sell it? Yeah, like I know two people. And I'm like, boom, you're getting half, you're getting half. And so I'll break it down between both of them. I'll make $100 to $300 on each pound,

depending on the quality. and I mean on 200 pounds 100 pounds 250 pounds I'm making 40 to 60 to 80 000 a week not counting a week a week but not counting that this fucking shit is uh they're their growers pounds so they're coming from up north or they're coming from british columbia so they just have their they're they're judging for the weight because they ship them kind of wet so they're judging for it to dry so they're little little over so when I go through each one I have like a mailing scale and a trash can and I put the trash can on the mailing so I put the fucking pound in it comes out like one big nugget i put it in i'm like oh you know 456 so then i take the eight grams out of it i throw it in a bag by the time i go through 100 200 pounds i mean i just made 30 grand and you know an hour and a half but i blew through like five vacuum sealer food saver uh sealers but i mean by the time i went through it i fucking i had made enough that night to where i go tell my people like hey let's go to the fucking club or so just when you make that much money in a day you have to go spend 10 percent to fall asleep you're like it's like you won the lotto you

Explain that. I mean, just, that's just how I felt like back then. Like, now I'm not like that. I can spend nothing after having a good day. But I mean, when you have these drastic jumps of income, it just itches at you to where like, say one day you make 80 grand, you're like fucking, man, I just have to go buy something right now. So I just always would go, we'd go to the clubs down here. It's funny how I lived downtown again in my old stomping grounds. This was always a dream of mine when I was in the pen to be back down here. Now I'm back down here better. But the point is, is we would go to the clubs and buy Christal and Dom P and act fucking balling. We didn't own fucking nothing.

I had a lease option to buy house that I was paying into. And I mean, it was dope as far as it was 1.5 mil. I had a condo down here. I had like 30 grand worth of bills a month, but no way was I going towards what you speak about, which is generational wealth. I was not thinking that way. That's fascinating. So let me ask you this.

Do you believe that looking back, you were looking for some kind of validation? So you're making all this cash 40 grand a week on average. And so you had a great week. Let's go spend 10% 20%. Are you looking for validation from your peers, from just being able to blow money and people to go, wow, who's he? What were you looking for?

I'm glad you went into that because I still fucking do it to this day. And it fucks with me. Like I'll even, like even buying the car I have now. Like, do I need that? I mean, I'll always tell myself I do, but I'm honestly doing that at a slight bit for people to notice that. I have some sort of success.

And that outward validation, it will always just fucking leave you empty. Like you, outward validation is directly linked to expectation. So I mean, the people who seek outward validation, like look at my house, look at my cars, look at my shit, look at me. They're always linking everything in their life to expectation. And expectation will always leave you empty. It will always leave you unfulfilled. I don't care what area of life it's in.

That expectation will fuck you over. So the point is, is I do that in small areas. in my life and I don't know if I'll ever fully extinguish it, but I mean, it's, it's like this compared to how it was like. Sure, sure. You spent a lot of time in the pen. That's one of the reasons I'm interviewing you because there's not a lot of people who spend that time. And from what I understand, there's a second half of your term in the pen that you really start to become more self-aware to not play the victim. Of course. Right. And so, so let's chalk it up to five years of the 10 years that you become self-aware that you start researching and maybe I'm the cause of all my

problems and not the man and not this and not that not other people got i hate when people do that so since you had all that time to to become self-aware what do you realize about yourself that others can also take away because there's entrepreneurs today and the reason we're doing this show this is obviously a show for entrepreneurs startup entrepreneurs entrepreneurs entrepreneurs that are making a billion dollars a year and everywhere in between like literally we have the entire audience and so i see so many people insulate and isolate themselves with money and they stand on their money for a sense of validation and confidence at what point do you realize fuck this is what i was doing i mean while in the pen the start of the penitentiary when i came in i was just always the person who says

i can beat the best best that shit my self-talk has always been solid i've always been positive my self-talk has always been strong enough where does that come from where does positive self-talk come from it comes from uh it comes from wins so i mean when you wake up in the morning you have a choice you have a choice to get the fuck up and if you get the fuck up you got one w under your belt now if you eat that meal you're supposed to eat now you got two if you're supposed to if you go do that workout now you got three if you're used to stacking fucking wins like i do every day you build that self-talk because every time that wind takes place you're like i fucking do this shit i can do it it ain't shit i always do it and 15 times a day that i'm always hitting these

steps, then another step comes in. I'm ready. Motherfucker, give me more variables. Oh, business wise, give me more variables. And we know that stress management is the fucking key to your success in business, in life. And so I mean, the true cap that caps everyone from growing anything is their stress level. So stress management is everything with that. And that just comes from your confidence. So you don't get stressed out if you're confident, right? So I mean, I'm fucking confidence. Fuck because I make myself do these small tasks. I'm all about, fucking base hits. I'm not about that home run shit no more because that's like wishing upon a star. This is out of my creation. Every little base hit fucking leading up to that fucking straight

championship. Stacking the wins. Stacking the wins. That's it. So as you became more self-aware and you realize, holy shit, I'm going to get out and I'm going to live a better life. I'm going to be an entrepreneur. I'm guessing you chose to be an entrepreneur. I would never have choosing anything else my whole life. So you knew coming out of the pain. My whole life since I was born. I'm like, I'm never working for anyone. Fuck this. I've never had a job. The only job I had, never had a job in my life.

The only job I ever had was in the penitentiary for two days. I worked for 28 cents an hour or 8 cents an hour or something crazy. What happened? Why do you? In the kitchen. I said, fuck that. Take my TV. Take my shit.

I ain't doing this shit. I'm laughing because I love your intensity. I just love your fucking passion. I'm not fucking doing that shit. Yeah, they told me, we'll take your TV. We'll put you on C stats. We'll do this. We'll do that.

I'm like, fuck, you get the fuck out of here. Like the two days I went through, I literally like, I went, like, sat in the corner, was like, when those pancakes going to be done, dude? And they're just, everyone's like, fuck you, you have to do something. Like, you have to help us with the shit. I said, that's for you guys, dude. I don't do that shit. So you knew, you knew early on, obviously as a kid, if you're looking at your FICO

score that, I'm going to be an entrepreneur. It's under my control. I'm going to earn. All right. So you get out, you know that you're going to do this. Why did you decide that you're going to help people with their health, fitness, mindset, wellness? The helping people thing is just, I fucking have always been good at everything.

I've always been able to pull off what I'm trying to. to pull off, but it never did anything for me. I call it being happily dissatisfied. I've been that way my whole life. I'll always be that way. The only thing that really does anything for me is when I can do it for someone else. So I mean, the whole point is, is everybody always wants to like fucking applaud what's already made, you know, but I just see like fucking, I just see so much more in creating something else, like just the ability to, you know, just true wisdom is seeing the miraculous and the common. So, I mean, if you can see something in someone, who's so common you see their vision for them you see where you can take them that's wisdom because

you're creating a path for them you're seeing what they're capable of you're saying hey motherfucker i was there the person who can't see someone else's path is not in touch with himself enough to say i was fucking there because everybody was there except that person with the silver spoon in their mouth which i don't know nobody like that yeah yeah yeah so so so so you become this this guy that's helping people with their health fitness wellness mindset and we all know that that's the first domino like your marriage could be falling apart. You can't do anything about it if your wife's not down to fix it. Your business could be falling apart and if the economy is jacked and you just can't do anything about it.

The one thing we can directly have control over is our personal mindset and our health and fitness. What we eat, how we train, and the thoughts that occupy our minds. And so I'm curious why you choose to go that path, considering you seem to be a pretty selfish cat who was trying to acquire all this money to the point that you found yourself in the penitentiary. Well, in the penitentiary, everything's stripped of you. So you have nothing else. The only way to truly validate yourself, it was cool because look it, here I am a motherfucker looking for validation from others like I always was. But in the penitentiary, the only way to get

validation is through your mind, body, soul process. Oh, that motherfucker's always up. Yeah, he's ready. He's a soldier. Oh, that motherfucker works out hard, man. That motherfucker's it. And then that motherfucker makes sense. He makes me want to get it. So through the process, my mind, body, soul process, I could get that validation that I was desperately seeking as that drug dealer, as that outward validation speaking seeking motherfucker now i could get it in a way that's benefiting both now i get my validation i'm strengthened to myself mind body sold through this process that we know works and then i'm just i'm pushing it on to others because i'm so fucking that that's what people don't get about fitness people is they're like so passionate about pushing fitness on you because

they know something it works and they they really want it for you and and people who aren't in a fitness see that in a negative way they're like no no until they try it and then they're like shit that did work, you know. And the point is, is, um, I was able to get the validation I was seeking as a drug dealer, as a, as one of the, someone of that ill got means nature and then be able to turn it into a positive and help people and then still get my validation, which I mean, is it the best way? I mean, we're always seeking validation of some sort. So I mean, if you can make it benefit everyone else and yourself and not be detrimental to others, well then, then I guess we found the best route for it. Sure enough. So I'm going to ask you a loaded question.

And this is something that I got from one of your YouTube videos. He said, dude comes in and he's like, hey, man, this is my anti-anxiety medication. And someone took it away from him. And he's like, you now no longer have anxiety, motherfucker. Tell me about that. Well, I mean, in the pen, you can't take meds. So, I mean, the point is, well, because you're a liability at that point. In what way?

If you're someone who needs, you need psych meds or any sort of, we call them like hot meds, but they're psych meds. If you need fucking psych meds, well, then you're just, you're a liability. Like, you're just. weak. Well, because you're weaker and you're just, you're not the, and the whole thing is, is in the most part, in the pen, people who need psych meds are way the fuck off. They're going to cause a problem for the whole race. So if you're white and you roll in, I'm accountable for you. If you start a problem with a cop, I have to go fight that cop with you. If you start a problem

with another inmate, I have to go fight that inmate with you. There's no questions. We're not going to sit there and debate it. Oh, so and so and so was wrong and so was right. No, no, no. that person hit a white person, bam, we're in on it. That cop hit a white person or that white person hit a cop, bam, we're in on it. So we have to just negate these issues from the start. No psych meds. We have to see who the fuck you are. We're not even going to have that liability around.

There's another place for you. It's not here. You're gone. Like the whole thing is, is if you're on psych meds, if you have mental issues like that, you're gone. And the point is, most people don't need that shit anyways. That was my next question. So do you think once you guys strip this cat, who believes that he needs psychics and antidepressants and the Xanax and all that

those aren't even anything okay and what do you see just normal human under there well you you just have to build them up through some real shit I mean the whole thing is everything that ails us in this life was current was instilled in us through creation that we could fight that internally so anytime you're having anxiety what is that telling you you have pent up energy that you have to go exercise off the funny thing is the answer to most of this shit's gonna be fucking exercise I mean, the whole thing is, is why is someone anxious? I mean, they probably ate some fast digesting carbohydrates.

They probably had some caffeine and their bodies, and they're telling their body, I want all this energy. And they're not fucking doing anything with it. They're not burning it off. So they started in a negative mindset in the morning. They created this process of asking for energy with what they took in. And now they're just sitting there. So now their negative mind is bouncing around all these ideas in their head.

And they have all this energy. And when in all reality, they could have just went into a workout, flipped that, used all that energy, gathered that PMA from the workout, looked at the same problem in a completely different perspective and changed their life. I'm the exact, I'm that exact person, but I flip my mindset because I get up in the morning because I know I'm negative. I'm inherently negative in the morning. So I flip it, look at it, don't look at anything of life until I'm in that state of PMA. Still I'm in that positive mindset. And then I look at my problems. And so I only

find the solution after years and years and years and years of only being in a positive. mindset because you know not to get in that negative one and you know how to reverse the negative one through exercise now you always fucking just look at all problems in a positive state you don't even enter that negative one so over time you've created that habitual construction habitual construction and by the way guys and guys listening to this pma is positive mental latitude which we're going to come to in just a moment so now i'm going to bring you out of the penitentiary we're going to talk about everyone out here on social media in the real world who's having anxiety who can't get out of bed they're white knuckling through life, they're stressed out, overwhelmed, suffering in silence,

depression. Depression. How much of that in your experience, because you've seen the real world, because once people are stripped away of their medication, stripped away of their social media devices, how depressed is society really? I mean, honestly, people aren't going to like this. Depression is a selfish person's disease. If you played a depressed person self-talk on a loud speaker, you'd be like, fuck that person's selfish as hell. I need this. I'm feeling this way. I don't know why I can't get out of this. I'm not feeling great today. Is everything about you? Are all your thoughts about you? Check it out. Wake up tomorrow. Think about how you can better serve everyone else but you guarantee you fucking forget about you in general. So the one thing I say in my book is every morning you wake up you have two sets of shirts you can wear.

One says how can I serve you? The other one says what can you do for me, right? That's it. And really what you're saying is the people who are living in anxiety and depression in this life. outside of the penitentiary are really the most self-absorbed selfish people. That it's all about me, me, me, me, me, they go inward. As soon as they go, how can I serve you? How can I serve him, her? Maybe just maybe I'm going to get some positive validation, positive feedback, and feel good about myself. How can I serve you? Abundance?

I mean, when they're worried about themselves with depression, that's that victim mindset. That's that scarcity. So why do you think in your experience? And I know you're not a doctor, you're not a therapist. I'm just talking about your experience because what I really love and appreciate about you, is in your 36 years on this planet, you've put in, you've gathered a lot of wisdom because you've done a lot of work. You know what I mean? You've done a lot of work. You've done a lot of shit. In my 45 years on this planet, I've gone through a lot of shit. I literally was born into

communism. We escaped. We come over here to the United States. I'm bullied. I'm sexually molested. Like, all this shit happens to me. And I grew up with a chip on my shoulder, fire in my belly, and rage in my eyes. And I believe I've got like 200 years of wisdom that I've gathered in that short amount of time. And I could see that in you. you too as I watch your videos do the research on you. So again, with that said, you're not a doctor, you're not a therapist. Why do people automatically lean towards medicating themselves instead of saying there's got to be a non-medicinal way of dealing with this anxiety and depression? What's your thoughts on that?

I just everyone rushes elsewhere instead of rushing inward and facing their facing themselves. Their pain is where all the solutions are going to lie. So I mean, on the other side of your pain is where all your answers are. Nobody wants to face that. They can easily get distracted. Fuck it. Fuck it. It's getting too painful. Fuck it. Everything's too painful.

Fucking, everything's too painful. Like, you were about to level up if you didn't grab that vice. If you didn't use that substance, you were about to find the answer. They're just always shutting it off right before they find the answer. When you're stuck in a cell by yourself for months, there's no shut off button. You got to just find the answer. You got to do it with the voice. So it's like, hey, check it out.

You're going to have to seek within right now. There's no way to find the answer except that internal reflection. Here's what I got from that. whether it's food, alcohol, drugs, as in recreational drugs, or drugs prescribed by a doctor, you're really just numbing the pain because you're not dealing with it. Just escaping it. You're escaping it. You've got to face it.

And so, you know, we're not going to talk about entrepreneurship. Obviously, you're now an entrepreneur, and you're doing really well for yourself. Beautiful place here in San Diego, you know, overlooking downtown. Great business where you help literally hundreds of people through your coaching program, mental, physical, nutritional. So I want to go above and beyond that and go back to the prison for a moment because there's so many parallels that I found

as you talk about prison on YouTube, whether it's a chow hall or whether it's the racial divide. And I'll go through the comments and I'll see people say, well, Wes, you're a racist. Like, let's address that. Because you just said something right now that's like, hey, if you're a white guy and you go berserk on a cop,

I'm white, so I got to back you up and go berserk on that cop. How does that work? That's how the system is. I mean, it's out of protection. Like, you can't police everybody in prison, so you group up by race and you police your own race. So, I mean, police ain't the real best word, but I mean, you're governing your own race.

It's a dictatorship, not a democracy. So your own race, you're telling them what to do. And that's the best way to control all the problems is to control just your people. Anybody else, I don't have any say, But my people, they're listening. That's it. They have no choice.

They have to listen. And the point is, is this is just, this is the politics, this is the structure, this is what works. I mean, in California, there's so many less problems than the other states because of this reason. Now, any other race cannot come touch me. If another race comes up and tries to even lay a hand on me or talk to me in some sort of combative way, here comes my 20 people. They know that they have to fight 20 people instead of that one guy. They're less likely to cause a problem when they know they have to fight 20 or 40 or 60 or 150 people opposed to just picking on one person.

So it keeps the praying on individuals out of it. They can't do it. There's no praying on one select individual. You're protected by your race. But therefore, you have to put in work for your race. You have to earn that protection. So you're going to have to do certain things that most people would just say they don't want to participate in. But there's no choice.

Can I opt out and not participate? No, you're participating. There's no way around it. If your general population, like my channel on YouTube is, GP penitentiary life. So if your general population in Maine, California, you have no choice. You're participating in anything your people ask you. If they ask you some, if I ask you, A, man, A, A, A, Bejros, A, B, you got to go, you got to go book this, dude. He's a chomo. You got to handle this shit. Like, there's no fucking way around. I'm not going to ask you twice. This is it. And you're like, you just think, oh, no, I can't do that. I'm going to catch five years and shit. Well, you're getting stabbed. You're getting what we're asking of you. If we're asking you to go beat some dude's ass and you don't, you're going to get your ass beat. You're not going to get stabbed. But, I mean, the point is, is you're going to get what they're asking you to do if you turn it down.

What an interesting way to create structure and what otherwise would be a really fucking chaotic environment. It'd be chaotic. Because there's just not enough guards and cops to help. From what I understand, most don't even want to help. No, I mean, the whole point, sometimes they watch it. I mean, it becomes trivial to them. But the whole point is, is it makes them work.

real hard. Nobody really likes to work hard. So I mean, the second, there's these, these political things or these disturbances and shit, that's a massive task to separate 80 blacks and 80 serenios and 40 whites and keep them fully separated in different places and feed them and house them. That is a massive undertaking. So, I mean, it just, they almost like the politics. We police ourselves. There's less problems. When there is a problem, they know what's going to happen because they know the rules, Like, you can't bring that dude in front of that dude. He's fucking, it's going to go up, you know. So the cops or the prison guards abide by those rules as well.

Oh, everybody's seen them. Because it keeps peace. Yeah, I mean, it fucking, it keeps order. It's politics. It's fucking, it keeps the order. I mean, other places is anarchy. So, so let's, again, I want to talk about this because a lot of people think that they have their nice cars, their nice homes, their social media devices, all the current

outfits and clothes and all the shit, yet they feel imprisoned, they feel life is unfair. How shitty is. is it in prison? What happens on day one when you go into a new prison? I mean, not only the mental aspect in the torture of fucking just like not knowing what's coming next. Like so always that's always a thing. Like even when I'm transferring from one facility to next, I'm like, fuck, how are the showers set up there? How am I supposed to? Because everything takes out like a different like approach.

So to shower correct, you're going to have to bring your shit. You're going to have to bring your shoes. You're going to have to set them up here. You're going to have to use this shower. You're going to have to walk this line. You're going to have to go this way. only use this one at this time with this person. And so I mean everything's like such or such organization that you'll stress out about the smallest shit. So once you're entering prison in general,

even people who watch my fucking channel, they're like, fuck, I'm going to have to stab someone. So they're getting off the bus for their first time. They're west said there's a bell. You're going to, they're going to ding if I'm a PC. I mean, if I, if I choose to roll with the black thing. What's PC? Protective custody. If I choose to roll with the, with the blacks and I'm a white guy, I'm getting stabbed. Like everything is. so fucking taboo and so fucking just split and segregated it's tripping everyone out because they're like what if my black friend rolls up i can't say what's up to him like shit like that is fucking uh it's always going through their heads but the daily life in prison i mean three fucking trays

no fucking protein i'm gonna make your ass work out hard as fuck every day no days off why you have a wake up time because you're a soldier you got to be ready for it to kick off i need your wind up i need you strong if you prove you're not an asset you're gone you know let me just explain to you guys and gals watching it listening to this when he says you got to have your wind up if you don't know what that means you got to be cardiovascularly fit because when it kicks off and what that means is when it when it's about to go a riot or race on race you can't be the one being a liability being trampled on they need you fighting everybody's got to be able body and that's the thing is we're not giving no one no fucking breaks and that's the validation i go back to let's see who's a

fucking man that's why i love i'm not saying i love prison but that's why i love the challenge of life of of prison, of this, of that. I went into prison and said, I'm going to be the best of this shit. Nobody looks like me in prison. None of them, okay? There's no white boys walking around with a bunch of veins fully ripped up, and I'll give a fuck about the look. It was the work.

So motherfuckers who always look at someone's external appearance, and they don't see the internal principles that built that. They're fucking tripping. I see someone who's fit. I know what that takes. I know the sacrifice. I know the discipline. I know the commitment.

So I know who that person is. It's more trusted. I mean, is that every. case, no, but I know what it takes. And so that that whole challenge of creating something that is past you, hitting that wall consistently. Those are the people you want around you in the pen. And so me rolling up, I'm just a noticeable asset. They're like, fuck, okay? I'm covered in certain ink that says I'm someone. And I've done my work. I've done my shit for my people. And then I look a certain way. I'm a lot bigger than most white dudes. I mean, most people in prison come in off of

drugs on the street. They don't look like us. They haven't been squatting. They haven't been training. They don't even know what a macro is. If you have the whole point is is, it's just, it's a massive challenge to say, hey, look it, look it. We're all here. We all have nothing. Let's see what the fuck we can make. I mean, I'm going to ask you something. What I'm hearing you say, if some dude comes out of, uh, again, let's let's, let's think about why you went into prison. You went into prison for selling what's absolutely legal today. Like I can go into a shop and pick up all the edibles and all the smokables I want right now. You went to prison for that, which even 15, 20 years ago was a joke. Anyway, that aside, the fact that you can

articulate so well and explain this. So if someone comes in and they're hooked on heroin, so they're thin, wiry, emaciated, they're not thinking straight. I'm hearing you say that prison almost becomes a self-development program for them because of the structure that you've created or that the prison system has created. With the right people around, with the right leaders around, yes, but with the wrong ones, no. Because, I mean, the point is, is once they come in, they're going to have to work out, they're going to have to do all this shit. But we know functioning addicts.

So, I mean, once you hit the main line in prison, everybody's on fucking drugs. Everyone's strung out on that black. What's the main line? So the main line is GP, like once you get a real prison yard, you're not a reception, you're not at county jail, you're on a real prison yard, like the fucking movies, day in, day out, same yards, same fucking cell, same people, same tray, same food. And then fucking everybody's on the same drugs. Everyone's, it's the same shit. It's just a smaller fucking real world, but just real concise. So the dudes who are going to the dope man every day out here, they're going to a

dope man every day and there. And the point is, is most dudes are strung out on black, which is heroin. And a lot of dudes are on that speed, on that white. And the fucking, those are the two main drugs. And the thing is, is that they'll just function at a low level. So I mean, they're going to have to do their workouts, they're going to have to do their shit. And then that's where politics get fucked up, because now if someone has some money, they have some drugs, the dude empowers a bitch, and he fucking sells out all our principles for some drugs. Now that can fucking, that can start to poison the system. Anytime when I've ever been a shock collar, any time I've had a block, any time I've had a yard, any time I've been a leader, I was always like, motherfucker I see you

using, you're the first up to bat. So anytime someone's using, they're cleaning up the drug problems. All problems in prison, 98% of them are drug debts and drug problems. So you're like, okay, why'd that problem happen? Or why'd that white boy get his ass beat today? He was laid on his drug debt to the South Siders. Now he got smashed.

Who did he get smashed by? He didn't get smashed by Joe Blow, who's in here doing his time right. That other fucking dope feed is handling that shit. Ain't that something? And you move that lifestyle right into this world. And again, 98% of the problems that people have are usually out of some addiction to a vice.

And the vice could literally be television. It could just be binge watching television, ignoring the stuff that they're supposed to do with their family, their faith, their finances, and their health and fitness. So if you had someone in front of you right now, because what I'm hearing you do on your YouTube channel, mostly, is it seems like you're talking to maybe like the younger kids

who might be at a fork in a road, because you're really trying to get kids, or maybe adults, to stay out of prison. Who is it that you're talking to? What's the message that you're trying to share? you're doing well financially why are you doing this now i mean is chronological is chronological age ever the sign of emotional maturity no so i mean the 65 year old motherfucker may be just as well developed as that 14 year old maybe maybe vice versa but the point is this chronological age doesn't

matter emotional maturity is something that i'm trying to pass on emotional maturity gain through fucking extreme accountability just straight up accountability motherfucker how did you feel after you did that be honest you know and and everybody has a context But why am I trying to help everyone so much? Because I feel like that's our path. What works for us in life is our path. People are like, what's my vision? What the fuck worked for you?

They're like, I don't know yet. Well, then start working. And the point is, is that's what you do. Your path is what worked for you. You're a business coach. You help people build businesses and you're a businessman. And so, I mean, the point is, is what worked for you is what your path is going to be. And what works for us is what works for us on all levels, mind, body, soul.

What's the biggest precursor of the mind, of the mind, of the mind, soul process is we just gain inner peace. So what are we always after? We're after that contentment. We're after that inner peace. And we're avoiding what that's what life is. That's the whole point of it. People think going somewhere means something or doing this massively cool thing. I've been on that beach and I felt like shit. I've been in the penthouse and I felt like shit. I've been in a cell by myself and I complete inner peace. That's how I know. That's how I know that that's what we're after. Wow. That's an experience, guys, that we can't get that we can only get through his experience. I know you said in a recent video you put out that if you would have to live, I don't know, three or four lifetimes to try and experience every single thing in your life.

The best way we're going to get knowledge and wisdom to be able to become the best versions of ourselves is to learn from others. And for you to say that you've been in a penthouse, you've been on an island and you've had this chaotic experience, but then you've been in a prison cell and you've had complete inner peace. Where does that come from? Do prison cell for 14 months at a time, not one foot out, not one foot out to shower, not one foot out to shower, not one. foot out for nothing, not medical, nothing. A tray coming through the slot, sitting in there for over a year, multiple times, six months, eight months, but the longest stretch, 14 months, never stepping out of a cell. But the point is, where does that come from? It comes from your process. So I'm out here to tell everyone, it's the process. The process is going to put you in the right frame of mind.

It's that morning fucking process. We're not nocturnal fucking creatures. You get the fuck up when the sun gets up. You go straight into your morning process. A great healthy meal. some vigorous exercise, some reflection. Done, you're set for the day. What you do with that is you ensure that throughout your day you have the character that you wish to fucking possess, you have your thoughts in line. I'm going to be kinder today.

I'm not going to snap when those fucking dipshit's get in my way. We all know what's going to happen. The same shit happens a lot. When that dude cuts me off, I'm not going to freak out when I do start to get in a slight argument. I'm going to compose myself. Everything that's your issues. Notice how all mine are anger related,

me snapping at people. But anyways, the point is, is that process is everything. Getting that correct mindset to look at the problems, to search inwardly, to create and unmake certain habits that we, that are not desirable to us. All right. So tell me about this, then since you openly admit that your factory installed default is anger and negativity. No, it's bad. Right? Rage and negativity.

Yeah. Yet you talk about the consciousness and the witness. Witness, strong witness. Tell me about that. because whether it's anger and negativity or whether it's self-loathing or whatever it is that are people watching this and listening to this are experiencing, how can the witness and the consciousness help? Well, I mean, okay, so first you've got to understand that you're never going to unmake

your negative traits, but you can use them in a positive manner. I'll always have these triggers, but how long is that window open or how long is that anger window open is where my strength lies? I'd imagine the Buddhist monk gets pissed off. I'd imagine shit pisses him off. But his window of being angry opens for a minute second and closes because his witness is so strong he watches it take place and then he closes it right away. Now I'm getting better to where maybe my anger window is about, is open X amount compared to

his minute opening. So I mean understanding that you'll never unmake this, a quote from Aurelius out of meditation, something I'm reading right now, straight, not straightened. you'll never be straightened. That's the problem everyone is after. They're always thinking that one day they'll be permanently fucking happy

or they'll be permanently not angry. Motherfucker, you just get better at controlling it. And the thing is, is a lot of people see this as anger. This is more like my Lewis black comedy. I'm not even pissed off. Right, right. But I mean, the thing is, it's just,

it's basically, and it goes back to one of my favorite quotes of, from Jordan Peterson, is that a great man is not a man who's just a kind, calm, normal man. It's a man who's capable of extreme violence, but he willingly foregoes that. So I'm on my way.

You're on your way. And so the witness, the consciousness, when you're going through, just walk us through for a moment. You wake up and you're just like, fuck, this is a bad day. You're negative, you're angry at something. You didn't sleep well, maybe you had some weird nightmares that triggered you, and you're angry. What is the witness or your consciousness do as you're going through these emotions

and how does the self-talk go for you to shut that window? Well, I base it on everything on being and becoming. So a motherfucker who's shallow, he goes to the gym to acquire, to possess a look. I go to the gym, I get up early, I live my process on a basis and a thought, a magnification in my mind of being and becoming. So if I slept two hours last night, perfect. It's going to be hard as fuck tomorrow. I want to be stronger, right?

harder's better right it is so therefore being and becoming oh today's going to be way harder perfect oh you're sick today perfect you want to level up right you appear pretty tough pretty strong here's your motherfucking chance

why does I don't give a fuck how positive someone is when everything's perfect how positive are you when you're in that cell for 14 months and nobody's written you you haven't seen a family member in 10 years can you be positive then I bet not but it's something you have to build up to So the point is, is, motherfucker, don't ever shy away on that day that's impossible. That was the day.

That was your chance to level up. You almost had it. You bitched out. My bad. I'm here to tell you, don't bitch out, go every day. This is the reason, being and becoming. Let's just say that one more time because that was so powerful. So when everyone else says, well, I didn't sleep good.

It's raining. It's cold outside. I didn't get a chance to eat, but I got a bad text message this morning. Coming up with a multitude of excuses why they can't go and work out or whatever, your rebuttal to I can't I didn't sleep well it's raining it's cold it's I'm sick is perfect here's a chance for me to deal with more adversity to suffer further so I can get stronger good why do you believe that suffering and pain is a solution to growth oh because adversity introduces a man to himself so adversity is going to show you who the fuck you are and more importantly

who you're yet to become so I mean the point is is oh shit I'm still a bitch right here oh okay well here's my level up this is who I'm gonna be in the future. So it's almost like your crystal ball. It's your window to who you can become. That's what people don't get. They're too focused on the acquiring like, but Wes, how long till I get a fucking six? Shut the fuck up, dude. You'll get the six pack when you earn it through trying to become stronger. You're becoming stronger by not negotiating with your weaknesses. If your weaknesses is diet, well then guess what? Level the fuck up. Attack the weaknesses. Quit magnifying the, strengths all too often I see the dude with the Rolls Royce in the titties and I'm like

motherfucker what the fuck dude like okay you got the money already work on the other shit homie like you're not fooling anyone good point so so you're living a good life now I mean we're in your condo here we're again overlooking downtown beautiful day how how do you keep yourself going because we'll see people that'll hit that glass ceiling him living a good life making enough money stashing some away how do I continue to I challenge myself is what they ask. You're always, okay, I mean, the point is,

is success is going to be, it's going to be its own. I mean, suffering from success is the realest shit. Motherfucker suffers from success. That's what America's based on, basically in my eyes right now. A bunch of people suffering from success. They have it so good. They become so fucking soft. So every level of, every level of success I'm gaining,

I'm equally matching with self-inflicted adversity. So I'm knowing that this is going to make me softer with all this shit I got. It's going to try to edge its way in, but I'm going to get up earlier. I'm going to have a harsher day with more variables because I am success when I got a lot of shit going on. Good. I wanted more success.

Well, then guess what? Good. More shit. I'm never going to be that dude who's going to shy away from the actual work that has to be done because I know that's what's going to save me. So I mean, always being like the main shit being the mind, body, soul process is what's going to put you in the correct state of mind to see everything correctly. Gratitude is always going to open the door to higher intelligence, to infinite intelligence.

So, I mean, you're going to get your answers there. So, I mean, the answers are going to come when you work for them. People want answers without working for them. Sure. Motherfuckers ask me questions. I said, go work for that shit. You'll learn it, actually. Morning routine.

What does your morning routine look like? Morning routine. Get the fuck up. 2.45. Go straight to some quick digesting protein, quick digesting carbohydrates, black coffee, Folgers, right into a book, something that I can just get one quote out of it. Why, soldiers? Prison shit.

I just, I'm so fucking cheap. I'll just, if I'm going. You know what I've realized since watching your videos and learning? So prison life and then Section 8 housing life where I grew up in the ghettos of Santa Ana. By the way, so you want to talk about segregation? The Mexicans and the blacks are fighting when we come from the Soviet Union into San Anna. And we're living in Section 8 housing. And all of a sudden, I'm the foreigner kid.

They stopped fighting and they start beating me up in my brother, right? And so the more I hear you talk about this, because he said, Folgers and all this shit. That's the stuff we grew up with because that's the stuff we grew up with because that's That's what they give you at Section 8 housing with your food stamps too. But okay, so Folgers because of prison life. Yeah, San Ana's grimy. Those streets are just battling each other.

It's gotten better over the years. But back in 1980, 85, it was pretty nasty. Okay, but so just, yeah, right in some Folgers. I just, I like it quick and cheap. I'm to the point. I'm just trying to get myself right where I need to be. And I like, I need caffeine. But that's probably my only vice.

I don't even see it as advice, so whatever. Could I do without it? No. But anyways, the point being, Have you gone with that for a period of time? I've never, I'm not going to even try. There's a, what do you? Is West Watson getting soft?

Yeah, yeah, but I've been on the Folgers for fucking since the penitentiary. You got no choice. Yeah, and so on. But I mean, that's just what gets me right in the mode. Everything's got a purpose. So, I mean, from the fucking morning, if you're choosing purpose over pleasure the whole time, I mean, I could have a fucking French press with my creamer and my favorite shit with my favorite coffee. I'm purposely choosing purpose over pleasure all fucking day. 245. Purpose.

Get there. Fucking handle business. Make sure I'm earning that strength by forcing myself up at an ungodly hour. So what time do you wait? What time you go to bed then? It's between fucking 730 and 1030. Like I don't really have a set scheduling to go to bed because I get, I get just a lot of messages and a lot of, the work's endless as an entrepreneur and starting a corporation. So I mean, the point. is it works endless. So I got to make fucking money. I got to keep the damn lights on. But anyways, the point being is, I just... But you wake up at $2.45.

Yeah, $2.45, straight into some quick digesting protein, quick digesting carbs. Everything's purpose driven. I'm not getting up and having my favorite anything, just to the point of what my body needs to get done what I got to do. So I mean, when we've consistently made choices throughout our morning, when we're choosing purpose over pleasure, when it was fully our choice. Now we're rewiring our mindset. We're rewiring our mindset to reward ourselves for purposeful acts over pleasureful ones. After doing this for an extended period of time like I have, pleasure almost has a downside because you see it not getting you where you want to go.

You're like, okay, pleasure, I've actually correlated pleasure with regression. So I mean, if I'm going out and doing something pleasurable, I'm regressing away from my goals. So I'm having this meal that tastes so fucking good, I'm regressing. If I'm going out and parting and drinking, which I haven't done in seven fucking in years, then I'm regressing. And so I mean, in all reality, what I've come to know is there's only two stages of life. And that's progression and regression. There is no stagnation in the universe. Right. All right. Well said. So after you have your Folger's coffee then, and we know everything is purpose driven and not pleasure driven, what do you do next?

Okay, Folgers coffee. And then I pull open a book. So anything that's going to just give me like some sort of gem, some sort of just some sort of motivation for the day, something. And I'll just flip through, usually a quote book. So I like quotes. They're to the point they get the wheels turning. So I just want something that invokes like some strong feelings in me. So it's always, it's always going to be like a deep quote that hits some sort of pain. I like pain.

Pain is what gives me the most motivation. Emotional motivators, far surpass superficial motivation. Just looking at that fucking car. Oh yeah, whatever the fuck, the abs. Oh, yeah, superficial. But when it's, when it's an emotional motivator, that's truly the source of your untapped potential. So, I mean, I listen to music that. I listen to music that draws out pain in me.

That song that brings you to tears before the gym is weird to listen to, but it's going to make you stronger than that one that makes you want to dance at the club. So, I mean, the point is, I just look for something that's going to truly bring out that pain in me. So either a quote,

and then I hop in the car, I listen to some music that it's always the sad shit. I always pull out the sad shit with the chick singing where there's... What was the most recent one you listened to? The recent was like Black Bear, it was like one where the dude's breaking up with this chick and this and that or like some halsey or something but in the pen i listened to like

adele we only had a limited selection so i listened to like adele that would like i'd be in fucking like streaming tears bro adele pulls at the heart it did do it dial she pulls at the heart hey tears streaming down my face listening to adele doing sets of 30 handstand pushups just vibrating and just at a level that people could feel fucking 20 feet away my frequency is just out of this world and i'm just i'm ultimately powerful right there i'm in i'm in the zone. All right. So you're reading the book or the quotes and then what happens? I go to the gym. So I go to the gym. I'm there by about four to four 15, four 30. Every morning, 13 years straight. So I take more pride in the consistency than the result. That's what everyone needs to really

fucking do. Take pride in the consistency. Take pride in the fucking the comprehension of the task more than they do the fucking result. But West, we live in a world of results. We want outcomes. We want we want results. But the consistency and the comprehension get the result. So I mean if you're only focused on the result, if you don't get it quick enough, you're going to tap out. And no one's going to get it quick enough because the result's always getting further and further away from you. The result is always changing. It's always growing as you grow. So the point being is I never chase a result. I chase the principles. I like the process. I like the pain. I like the fucking I like who I'm creating.

I like to comprehending the task more. I like to live in it. And the point being is that I don't get a fuck about the result. I keep getting the result. And it doesn't do shit for me. So haven't I learned by now that fucking a week after I bought the car, it was still the same as the other car? All right. Fair enough. So let's go back to prison for a moment. What's roll call?

Roll call. I mean, roll call is going to be in the shoe. Roll call is going to be when you call out to your people. And what is the shoe? Okay, the shoe is a segregated housing unit. So this is when you, the prison inside of prison. So when you get in fucking trouble, you stab someone, you beat the shit out of someone, you get caught with drugs, you go to the shoe. Is that what the call, solitary confined?

solitary confinement, but you have a celly because it's so overcrowded. So I mean, if you're not some weirdo, you're going to have a fucking celly, and you and your celly are going to have to get up at a mandatory time, which is usually around different places, three to four a.m. But before they run showers or do chow, you're going to get up, you're going to tell your people on the tier of the building that you're up. They're going to call out. They're going to say, fucking, they do a, like a, you know, a big verbal call out to their own people.

The Mexicans do it to their people. The whites do it to their people. and everybody answers to show that they're up because we're stuck in cells. You can't see if someone is or not. So there's accountability by voice, by sound. 100%. And then what happens? Sorry, that's the roll call in the shoe.

But then, so then we get up and we start programming. So we'll start working out. We'll start getting ready to go to the yard. Or we'll just start just showing that we're up, showing that we're not weak, showing that we're ready to live. I mean, the point is, is that's gratitude. They're teaching to be grateful. The highest form of gratitude is to get up and live your fucking life.

to get up and live that day that is not promised. So the highest form of gratitude to me is to not say, I don't want to get up today. Motherfucker, what if you didn't have the opportunity? Would you say that? Right. What's hooping? Oh, hooping.

Yeah, a lot of my videos talk about hooping. These guys laughing so much. Yeah. You knew it was coming. A lot of my videos talk about hooping. And that goes along with roll call, because roll call sometimes is papers. So papers getting passed around with everybody's name on them

that were checking to see their charts. to make sure they're okay to be around. So why don't you explain that for a moment? Because I don't think people watching this, and listen, I know an entrepreneur, he's a dear friend of mine, he fucked up, he crossed that line into the gray,

crossed that line and way past the black and was selling pretty much sugar pills and saying that they cure cancer. And after about making $30 million off these sugar pills that he claimed cure cancer, the great state of Tennessee took everything away from him, and he now lives in Texas. All that time.

said, it's very easy to find yourself in a prison, whether you were just selling weed or you were accidentally trying to solve cancer with sugar pills. And I don't think people realize what really happens. And so when you're when you've got your paperwork, you're going to a new prison, like you have to hoop that, which is what? Well, who I would hoop it. You don't have to. You don't have to. But that, that's the main way of showing you're with the business. That's showing that you're a regular. You fucking get how it works. You get the, the fucking, how important it is to have your paperwork. So your paperwork's your charges.

So I'm going to have my fucking charges on a piece of paper. It's usually a 128G, which is a CDC form. It's going to tell everything I've been busted for, everything that I've, like, any sex history, any crimes, anything that people want to know about you to know if you're a fucking weirdo or anything like that. So the point is, I'm going to bring my paperwork in my body cavity,

which that's hooping is. I'm going to stick it up my fucking ass. I'm going to roll the shit up into a little piece of, cellophane real small and then I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna put in some rubber gloves and I'm gonna shove that shit up my ass and then I'm gonna hop on the bus so that when I get there all the new ass motherfuckers show up and they're at a new prison and they're like oh my paperwork's coming it's in my property and then I roll up and they're like okay yeah I've heard a west I know this fool knows what's up he's blasted he's a big dude I can tell and then they're like what's up

dog and I'm like yeah give me a second I just go retrieve my paperwork you know I'm not gonna give it to them with fucking shit on it. But I'm going to have the shit fucking ready. I'm going to come up. I'm going to hand it to them. They're going to be like, bam, what's up? Boom. It's just the utmost respect.

So me being something, the way you do anything is the way you do everything. So me being some thorough motherfucker like I've always been, like I take pride in the thoroughness of myself and the amount of respect I give people who are thorough. I'm thorough. I'm not. I see the fucking holes in how people are acting. And so I'm like, oh, no, no, I'm not come correct. That's what I want people to do.

I want people to fucking to see the problems and answer their own questions of what shows that shows respect to the process, even if it's their job out here. Fill in the fucking gaps. You'll get the race from filling the gaps more than that piece of paper that said you're good at your job. If you ain't fucking pulling it off, I'm going to fire your ass. So really, you're building your reputation the moment you show up because you're saying, look, man, I came, I came prepared.

Here's what you need to see to know what category of life I fall into here. Right. And so what's a chomo? A chomo, child molester. A worst fucking type of person on this planet. I mean, that's one of, I'm always super fucking like, oh, forgive people, be understanding not with that shit. Anything against children, fuck that shit.

So the point is, is you come into prison. These guys are missing their families, their wives, their children, everyone, they're never going to see them again. And here you were out there, you hurt some kid, you raped a woman, you're dead. You're fucking dead. Your life's gone. They don't care. They're missing their, they're crying every day.

I'm getting the chills. They're crying every day about their family. And here your fucking ass is. Hurting children, women. You're done. You're going to take your head off. And it's a rule. I don't give a fuck if you agree with it or not.

If B comes in, if Big Bedros comes in, I don't give a fuck. Check it out. Your cellie's a chomo, fool. Slide that piece on your door. Hand out of your fucking business. That dude's head better be separated

by the time we come out to Chow. He better be just fucking stacked up by the door. But that's how it is. Like we don't give a fuck. Okay, don't handle it. We got you next. You're next. So you're either doing it or it's getting done to you.

Doing or it's done to you. You got one choice. Yeah. Really kind of draws a very clear picture of how good we have it here, no matter how bad we have it out here, doesn't it? I mean, when you're living prison life, and that's the picture I wanted you to draw, was that how you have to show up, the shit you have to do. One thing you even talked about is even in yourselves, you guys have what you call a drive. Like you know like someone else isn't going to come through your driveway explain that how how the tiniest little things matter from the way you take a piss the way you take a shit the way you enter yourself Because I want to draw the contrast when people say that they have a bad life they're having a bad day

Like explain what the normal life is so so then even in a so like a level two like a level two prison is where the driveway is going to count but even in level fours level threes There's certain ways you can only walk you can't walk certain ways there's certain paths you have to go down. So you have to fucking everything's of order. If you're black, you cannot walk over here. And if you do, you're coming for a problem and it's done. Like, we're going to give you like two seconds to like retrieve something. Like if your basketball comes over to our weight pile and you come to grab it, we're going to be like, what the fuck, you know? And most people won't grab it. They'll let you throw it back to them. So I mean, that's the level of respect. But I mean, the driveways being at like a level two where everybody

lives in a big dorm. Because there's level twos, level ones. These are big dorms, level three is, level fours, that's cell living. So I mean, the cell living still has a fucking a day room, which is a communal space where everyone inhabits. So I mean, in that communal space, there's walkways, there's tables, there's certain shit that only certain races touch. This is the whites, Southerners and Paisas tables. This is the blacks, the Nortenos, and the others tables. So I mean, others being like Asians and shit. So blacks, others, Nortanos, Southerners, whites, and Pisos over here. Everything's split. You come over here, there's a fucking problem. And so I mean, the point being at the level two back to that, the driveway, you can have where you walk to your bunk,

here's, here's my bunk, here's the driveway, here's a black on a rack. And so the point is, is how do we do this? How do we use this area correctly? So some places I've been, he only comes into his area through this side, never through our side. So we have our own issued areas. and then in some places it's going to be fucking um it's going to have to be used so i mean everywhere's kind of different but the whole thing is is everything segregated by race you're not using that fucking toilet that's a black toilet you're not using that shower that's a black shower and the segregation is real wow that's crazy shit really want people watching and listening to this right now to realize how good you have it even if you're having the worst day your wife left you

your dog died someone got diagnosed with cancer and the economy just crashed in your business you can't I'm going to afford your payroll right now. Think about what life could have been like because going back to what West said earlier, that you've got to live through someone else's experience. And I think you're a gift to humanity. And I say this right now because there's not a lot of people coming out of prison. One, who can articulate a message like you can. Being able to communicate is a massive gift.

And number two, if they had that gift, they're just not willing to. They're like, fuck, I learned all these lessons. I'm going to live my life differently, but I'm not going to help society. That's a big one that pisses me off. I'll get DMs every day of a fucking. dumb fuck who just is like oh west move on like you got out it's over like go live a life with your wife and shit i'm like like like like you you dumb motherfucker you selfish bitch i'm like i'm like helping people you don't see that like the point is is it's not all about me that's what you're

doing have fun with that motherfucker that that's someone who's so low in life i don't even mean to like talk shit because there's levels i can be understanding and know i was at his level at fucking 14 but the point is, is there's levels in life, and he's just at the level where he just hasn't attained any success to see that that doesn't matter. And the only thing that's going to matter is how you affect other people. How do I know this? The only fucking thing in my life that I'm ever affected by is other people.

I've spent a lot of time alone. Do you think I ever got up and ruined my own fucking day once I was woke? Once I was mentally woke and spiritually aware and all this shit, do you think I ever got up and ruined my own fucking day? I never did. So then I knew that my job to live my best life and be as positive as I am and enjoy my days was to work on those around me so that they were comfortable with themselves. I was comfortable with myself. They weren't ruining my fucking day.

So the point is, is it selfish of source? Yeah, but am I hooking them up? Yeah. Ain't that something. What do you regret in life? I don't regret shit. I love everything I went through. I even went through that prison term seeing it from a bird's eye view like it was a movie.

Like fuck, dude, I'm going to create the dopes. shit off this. I knew it. I'm like, I know what I can do off this. And these motherfuckers are just living directly in it. Like, oh, this tray sucks. I don't want to get up like some bitch-ass shit. And here I am. Here I am. This is the power of your life right here. When you stand back in your fucking head and all the shit you don't want to do that's going to get you where you want to go, you stand back and you remove your feelings from it. You watch yourself eating that food and you're like, yeah, motherfucker, no one will eat this shit like me. Yeah, the shit tastes like shit and I love it dude it's it's getting me ripped what's up you don't sit

there and involve yourself in the fucking meal when you're working out you're going to the gym early you're watching it from outside you're not directly in it like i'm fucking tired you're watching yourself from outside you're like look at that motherfucker he's going straight to his goals you can't stop that dude that dude's on it so the point being is step out watch yourself live your life from a bird's eye view create your story create that movie people would want to watch don't get so fucking submerged in the little fucking semantics of life don't let your feelings of every little event fuck with you obviously feelings involved with family with loved ones when it counts when the feelings are good but in moments of adversity stand back and watch and see what it's

creating what makes you happy what may i don't even agree with happiness first off tell me about i don't agree with happiness i i it it is it's linked to expectation so i mean or there's a high and a low so if if i got way happy well then guess what's going to happen after Way low. I'm just going to feel low. I'm going to be like, dude, I fucking made so much. It's so awesome. Oh, what now?

So, I mean, the point is I seek contentment. I seek inner peace. So I just seek that time. Like, what I really look forward to is just laying there with my wife and just nothing. Just no thoughts, no nothing. Peace, you know. So seeking happiness is like, that's almost just looking for stuff externally. Most of the part for most people.

But I just, I don't even want the high and low. Goodness is uneventful. it does not flash it glows so i mean if are we looking for a glow are we looking for that bang you know that bang and then everything falls down but that glow it's just steady it's just steady so so what do you think people are looking for happiness then uh i mean they just haven't figured out that it's happiness is just it's they just don't know what they're looking for they don't know that they're looking for just contentment and inner peace they're looking for everything to just feel right they just they're just looking they're they're working monday through thursday

day and they're like Friday's here. They don't realize that fucking, then it just makes Monday worse again. I'm just all week, just steady. Just a steady incline. Were you always that way? I've always kind of been that way, yeah. But I mean, I've just perfected it more and more. I actually used to live like the go out lifestyle and that type of shit. I never really did it for me though. I always knew that there was something wrong there. Sure. But you did it and we talked about earlier to get that external validation. Yeah, but then like regret being your guideline of life. I would always regret it and then I'd be like fuck man like this is just bullshit like so anyone who's regretting shit they're consistently doing I don't give it's give a fuck of its food alcohol crack or fucking

speed whatever the fuck if you're regretting it after that's your conscience that's your guideline to tell you to expel that from your life to live your best life your conscience is your hookup I call it conscience congruency if we could only walk in congruence with our conscience 24 seven how far would we go how good would our life be it'd be pretty fucking easy yeah I hate that the truth. Let's finish off with this question. If there was, there was a 25 year old person in front of you and said, hey, hey, Wes, knowing what you know, how do I have a good life? How do I, how do I have some significance and meaning? What's the one piece of advice we're going to give this 25 year old that you're never going to see again? Make life hard and live a hard life and life will be

easy. So if you consistently put, or even the 9010 rule, 90% pleasure, 90% purpose, 10% pleasure. just literally, literally making fucking, fuck, man, just working for purpose mainly. Purpose is the pleasure. Purpose is the pleasure. Wes, how do people find you? Everyone could find me on Instagram at Watson Fit. Watson Fit is my own corporation. I'm CEO of and we do your training.

We also do elite mindset coaching. So Watson Fit on Instagram. You can also go to GP Penitentiary Life, watch my videos on YouTube. those are um that i put my heart in all this shit the way we do anything is the way we do everything that's one of my credos i have a few life happens for us is another one and i mean just grab those gems let them run through your day let them guide you let your conscience guide you and uh gp penitentiary life on youtube watch and fit on instagram that's it what should i have asked that i didn't ask i think you hit everything those are those are all my main things like my life up to now

has been built off all those gems. And people are like in the comments in YouTube and Instagram and shit, they're like, thank you for these gems. Don't be a fucking consumer of motivation and quotes. Quotes are known as the wisdom of the ages. Someone spent fucking a long time to figure out that sentence.

Don't be fucking stupid. You're not going to live long enough to make all the mistakes yourself. So let me help you. Here's this quote. It's coming from 150, age, from Marcus Aurelius, straight, not straightened. I mean, this was massive to me.

Huge. But anyways, the point being is fucking, don't just be a consumer of motivation and trashing it. Because my understanding is you'll fall under the law of diminishing into intent. And it'll just be harder and harder for you, to where now you're almost have a vice of consuming motivation. Ain't that something? West Watson, thank you for your time.

Yeah. Really appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for watching this episode of The Empire Show. If you like this episode and I know you did, I want you to take a screenshot, tag me, tag, tag West and share it with your friends on social media. Leave us a five-star review and as always,

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