Behind the Bastards - Part Three: P. Diddy: A Life in Crimes

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

Robert is joined again by Wil Anspach to conclude our 3 part series on Diddy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Call zone media. It's Behind the Bastards, a podcast hosted by a man who is legally a judge and his friend Greasy Will, who is legally Greasy Will. Legally not allowed to drive anymore. Oh really, did that happen? Yeah, yeah, every time you said combs with an L, I took a sip over the last two episodes. Sorry.

So now I'm just trashed, man. I hope you've enjoyed this behind the bastards drinking game that I have embarked upon. Go back in time and just have like about 14 shots. Yeah. Oh, so the late 1990s is an era in which bad boy records is growing by leaps and bounds and Diddy is getting rich as fuck.

We are talking the insane pile. The cash pile so large that your only option is to either get really into cocaine or start a series of ill-conceived small businesses. Yes, absolutely. Diddy, I'm sure does both actually. So I had two choices. No.

Perfect. I was gonna sit in that failure. I was gonna make a decision to step out of the darkness. Ooh, more like into the darkness, buddy. He steps out of the darkness to Oh, more like into the darkness, buddy. He steps out of the darkness to launch a restaurant called Justin. This is named after his oldest son. He starts the first Justin in New York City in 1997,

and he franchises it out to Atlanta the following year. The New York location shuts down after about a decade. Sean claims because he wanted to find a larger location, but he just never opens a new one. I think it just failed. This is the story of my mom when she said she was gonna build the house on top of the basement that we lived in.

And then we just lived in a basement for like eight years. Good times, mom, thanks. Yeah, this is Diddy's version of that. Now, the Atlanta location hangs on a little while longer. It eventually shuts down in 2012. Why? Here's a summary from an article in BET. In July of 2011, Diddy was sued

after music executive Tony Austin, a patron of the Atlanta Eatery, was shot in the parking lot. Austin, former A&R for Def Jam and the president of Russell Simmons Music Group, says he was in his car listening to music with another man when someone opened fire on the vehicle. Austin alleged that the proprietors of Justin's

were aware of dangerous and hazardous conditions at the establishment, but failed to provide warning or security. Now, isn't that something? Isn't that something? Shocking, shocking. Welcome to Decisions Decisions, the podcast where boundaries are pushed and conversations get candid. Join your favorite hosts, me, Weezy WTF, and me, Mandy B. As we dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often taboo topics surrounding dating, sex, and love.

Every Monday and Wednesday, we both invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms. Tune in and join the conversation. Listen to Decisions Decisions on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the Criminalia Podcast. I'm Maria Tremarchi. And I'm Holly Frey. Together, we invite you into the dark and winding corridors of historical true crime.

Each season, we explore a new theme from poisoners to art thieves. We uncover the secrets of history's most interesting figures, from legal injustices to body snatching. And tune in at the end of each episode as we indulge in cocktails and mocktails inspired by each story. Listen to Criminalia on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, by the time Justin's opened, Sean had split from Justin's mother to date a model named Kim Porter,

who gave him his second son. In 1998, he launched a fashion label, Sean John. Sean John. Sean John, yeah. Oh man, and it was the it brand, you know? That was the shit, it was Boss and Sean John and Fubu, man. We can say markedly more successful than his restaurant. Absolutely. Also, I need to fact check you on the oldest son thing.

He has an adopted son who's older named Quincy. Oh, okay, and his adopted son who is older named Quincy. Sure, interesting, fascinating name. Now that year, the year that he starts Sean John, he is nominated for five Grammys. If you wanna know what a Grammy looks like, just look behind Will and do this right on camera. The light actually went off, I guess,

but I wasn't in the mood to turn it back on. I noticed it an episode a half ago. You got it fucking back lit. Was the first thing you did with that take a shot out of it? Oh, yeah, absolutely. In fact, I think, you know what? To be fair, this is behind the bastards. We should do this on air because it's like how else do you do

when you get a Grammy? So also, Drew, I need you to understand that when I got this Grammy, I was about to have a kid at the time. I had a bad month where my car, the transmission died. It was just a bad, basically my point is I had like maybe like $500 in my account. I still spent $200 on a bottle of Don Julio. Yeah.

Yeah. Priorities are important in life. So that I could take a shot out of my Grammy. That's right folks. Because that's the only reason to get one of these things. You did it. What kind of like, what kind of person gets this to brag to their friends? That's the only reason to get one of these things. You did it. It was beautiful. What kind of person gets this to brag to their friends?

No, like this is to take shots out of because it's funny. And you're not gonna get content like this from the Pod Save America guys. Absolutely not. You're not getting it from the bulwark. You're not getting it from last podcast on the left. Only behind the bastards. This is basically when Elon smoked a blunt

on Joe Rogan's show. You might get this on Joe Rogan's show. I'm not gonna lie. Elon smoked a blunt on Joe Rogan. You might get this on Joe Rogan. You would get this on Joe Rogan. I'm not gonna lie. Although we would both be racist and one of us have some sex pest crimes behind us. You would be trying to convince my listeners to, I don't know, inject bleach into their assholes

in order to build muscle mass. Eating like 600 worms or silk worms, specifically silkworms. Lots of silkworms. Yeah, you have to eat silkworms for your colon health. You know, it's like everybody knows that. Well, I do actually think you should eat more elk. It's delicious.

Yeah, elk is delicious, you're right. It's very tasty. Now, so that year, the same year he opened Sean John, he gets nominated for five Grammys. Bad Boy pulls in $130 million in revenue. What year is that? That is 98. Oh, 98.

98, yeah. Okay, so do you know what Grammys those were that he won? That I don't know. I could have looked that up, but I'm a hack and a fraud. Now, from this point forward in the story, Sean has infinite money, right? Which he still does, basically. So much money.

Now, as I noted last episode, he'd always had a knack for throwing huge media-driven parties and now that he was actually a major celebrity himself, he kicked things up several notches. 1998 is also the year of his first white party. These were the events where he'd invite piles of celebrities to his mansion in the Hamptons for what inevitably became the big event of the summer. And part of it is he becomes like the first black guy

to move into this very rich white neighborhood. The white parties are in part how he kind of makes his neighbors cool with him is like, hey, you're some like lame bank CEO, you can be at this party with these cool people. Yeah. This is starting to happen in the era of the internet, right?

It's like, this is 98. This is like the beginning of the internet where like being seen with all these different like cool hip people that are like big because the white parties you see the pictures of them. It's Yeah, everybody's of all of entertainment. Yeah. And everyone wears white because Diddy thought he looked good and white. And to be honest, like I don't want to be complimenting the, but he doesn't look bad. That's not a bad look for him That's not a bad look parties like legit. It's like a pair of air ones, dude They look good the first time you wear them and that is white dude white is The first time you wear it it is

The most beautiful pristine amazing looking thing now. Yeah, then you have what like 930 10 p.m. That white starts getting kind of grody, you know? Yeah. Well, part of what I love is you can really see the whole, he is part of the point of these parties is for people who are rich but not very cool to get to feel cool. Look at some of the people below him.

Like that guy in the front, they're just wearing white T-shirts. You don't look like a rap star. You get this wild mix of like beautiful people. And also sometimes beautiful people looking just like normal weirdos at a party, but which I always think is really interesting. You've got like, but part of it is because

these first white parties are from the era before, like there's no social media. So there's no social media filters. Photoshop tools aren't as easy to use. So you get a lot of shots of famous people actually looking like normal people at a party. Like here's Leo DiCaprio and some other dudes drinking champagne, smoking cigarettes,

and like not particularly looking like they're crazy rich and famous. Like Leo looks like a pretty normal fucking dude there. Yeah, yeah. And then, Sophie's gonna show you next. Regis Philbin. Yeah, there's a photo of Regis Philbin, and I can only describe the look on his face.

He looks like he is smiling like the devil. Like he would cast him in needful things. He is selling you a cursed Victrola. That's how Regis looks in this photo. And there's a couple other middle-aged white dudes in there, one of whom is grabbing a young woman's arm in a way that I would say looks kind of off-putting to me, but I don't know what was going on.

Is that Vera Wang? Is that Vera Wang? The wedding dress designer? I can't tell. I don't know. It's kinda grainy. All of these people are rich. Some of them are famous.

I don't think that bald guy got famous for being a hip hop star. The only poor people at these parties were the people catering it Yeah, you know and the people being sex traffic Regis Regis is like Yeah, my hands are to my both of my hands I fucking up this What was it was it he wants to be a millionaire at this point? I wish that we could just really see

What was it was that he wants to be a millionaire at this point? Yes that we could just really see Like if there was a guilt aura around every person that existed in this picture like like green to red And yeah in a scale of colors and the redder you are the guiltier you are Yeah, that's gonna be a fascinating shade above that crowd there Everyone's gonna have an aura that looks like the drink of the guy on the left, which is red You are just as likely to be completely innocent. Well, and here's the thing as you are to be parties Complicit in all the bullshit he did there are definitely especially at the end at the after parties the night parts Which not everyone stays for there are definitely some sex crimes here These are not the diddy parties where most of the sex traffic,

right? Yeah, definitely should be mentioned. These are two different events. There's a reason for it. The white parties are his PR. This is where he goes to. So that legitimacy into the rich community, like the Hamptons and all that bullshit, but also, you know, like their legitimacy into the black community as well.

Right, right. And that is the point of these. And so these are largely less sketchy events for that reason. And it is his, he has another kind of party with another name that we'll be talking about. That is where most of it, I'm not saying like there's no sex crimes happening here. There's definitely drugs, but the fact that someone was at a white party doesn't mean that they committed sex crimes. So I'm not saying Regis Philbin is a sex pest. I don't know Regis. Maybe there have been allegations against him. If so, then I guess I am, but I don't know that. These are his show parties, and he's a lot more careful about what happens here.

The other parties, the parties you have heard stories about with the baby oil and the sex crimes, are what he called his freak-off parties. Like a dance-off but you know, with your freak. Yeah, get your freak off. Yeah. I shouldn't laugh there, dark. They're dark. These are the sex crime parties. If someone went to a freak off,

you should assume they did some bad stuff. Yes, in almost every single one of these stories, there is a victim. There is very little willing participants of these things. Like even the people who are willing participants might be coerced willing participants. It's very murky with a lot of the stuff that goes on. The lot of power.

Blurred lines you could say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And again, this is definitely the place where we start talking about where blurred lines. I did it. And people are also just doing lines, yeah. Yes, yeah, definitely. He wasn't explicitly making me do this,

but I knew that I could not say no type shit. And that is very, very strong in the Diddy story, for sure. And another big part of it is, cause there's different gradients of cases. A lot of these people are like, well, yeah, I said yes, and I agreed and nobody threatened me. But also I was there because I had just gotten started in this industry and I'm in front of the guy

who could make my career. And like, I didn't think I had any other option. Like these are also some of the things that are happening. I mean, we're into now the beginning of the Justin Bieber territory, which is like very much the Usher situation between Puffy and Usher and then Usher and Justin Bieber and Justin Bieber.

And there is a lot of like questionable interactions like Justin Bieber spending a weekend at Puffy's house at like What like 12 years old or something? Yeah there's like some weird activity that happened that at the time we saw it happen and we were like, huh, Okay, you know like but like everybody now is definitely able to look at those situations be like that's actually you know That's weird. You know, but the 90s. Hey, let's be fair. It was the night Thousands, you know we're talking about 12 year old Justin Bieber to be a diddy's house. Who am I to judge? We should have judged

We should have been at the white we should have judged. We should have been judged. At the White Party, it's like the most intense photo I've seen is Sean Porring's champagne over what the New York Post describes as, two unidentified near naked women. It doesn't look nearly as sketchy as they describe it. The Post and a lot of other tabloid coverage of these events does tend towards sensationalism about the wrong things.

For example, this piece from September. Inside Sean Diddy Combs's Hampton sex parties featuring gay rappers who were high on ketamine. And like, you and I have both been to parties with gay rappers high on ketamine. That's not the problem. Yeah, not at all. That some gay rappers are doing ketamine.

That's not what's the issue here. In fact, some would say that was the best part of the party. Yeah, yeah, those gay rappers, probably not committing sex crimes. Not at all. Although maybe. Sometimes. You know, but the point is, here's the thing, is like those white parties, those were press events.

You don't have press at sex crime parties. You have press at the events where you're going to be- Unless they're committing sex crimes. Right, yeah, unless, you know, that's part of the blackmail, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, not that the two Venn diagram circles didn't interconnect, but without it, you know,

it's like you don't invite the press to the parties where you're gonna do the bad shit, you know? No, no, because he's not, again, he's not stupid. That's why he got away with this for so long. Now I'm not sure how seriously to take this post article, which has its source as just one anonymous Coke dealer, which again, not necessarily the most credible people on the planet, but here's a quote.

The dealer said Diddy opened the door to his former Hamptons mansion while wearing nothing but a robe and brought him to a back bedroom to make a cocaine deal. Weird shit was starting to happen. Celebrity guys fucking each other. There were back bedrooms and it was like the inner sanctum. And this dealer talks about it like,

I lost a lot of respect for those guys. He is not talking about the sex, he's talking about like, people having gay sex. Famous people fucking each other in a gay way, which is like fine. That's not the issue here. I know we're not like the representatives to be talking about any of this stuff,

but as far as I have ever experienced inside of the hip hop culture of America, it has only recently become taboo to say the F slur. It's not like that was an insult for most of the 2000s. It did not until 2015 feel like it fell off the radar for that to be part of like your insult to another person is that they have gay sex with the person. So it's like, certainly, there is a vested interest in not publicizing this yes people not knowing that it exists very dangerous being a secret. Yeah, because you

would be looked at differently, especially at this time, but even now, you would be looked at differently for these types of actions. And there's, you know, the dealer claims he also saw a mix of female rappers and prostitutes having sex there. And that's kind of where we do get into,

cause again, some of, there's probably some trafficking at the white parties. And it's unclear to me, is he talking about a white party or a freak off? It's at the Hamptons, a little bit unclear, but we'll get to that later. Real quick on that same point, I just wanna say at any event, right? Whether you are in fact a prostitute or not,

like there is a certain amount of hiring of females to be at a party to be overly friendly to the people at the party, right? Yes. It's one, it's very good to look like there's a lot of beautiful women here. Yeah, for sure. But also for the people that come to these things, they want to feel like there's girls that are there that are interested.

And this happens all the way from the normal Hollywood club type event all the way up to these parties. So it's not like when you talk about the sex trafficking element of all of these things, like it may be somewhat innocent, but there's always an element of like hiring women to be morally available in ways at parties, you know? Yeah, absolutely. Now in 1999, Diddy was arrested on felony charges

of assault and criminal mischief. The chain of events began when Diddy was featured in the music video, Hate Me Now with Nas. Both Diddy and Nas were crucified on a cross, which Diddy later decided was sacrilegious and asked to have cut. That's his line! That's his line!

Crazy. Yes. That's where he calls it, hey man, do not portray me as Jesus being crucified on a god. Although I'm not going to lie, 12 year old me or whatever it was, I thought that was the banginest video I've ever seen in my life. Like I remember that coming out and I remember seeing it was on TRL and I remember my mind being blown. Just like, oh my God, they crucified them?

That's so sacrilegious. So to be fair, as a Roman Catholic kid growing up in Pennsylvania in the 90s, I did kind of think, yeah, holy shit, that was sacrilegious. Perspective is a very important piece of this whole thing. And in the 90s, that was sacrilegious as hell. That was some Marilyn Manson level of sacrilege going on inside of the community.

Oh man. So that's what flips him out. And when he decides like, hey, cut this out and then they air the unedited version anyway. And when the version with him being crucified airs, he blames the president of Interscope Records, Steve Stout. And he bursts in the Stout's office with some goons and assaults him with quote

A chair a telephone and a champagne bottle Stout said of the beating one minute I'm in the middle of a meeting and the next minute I'm down on the floor and puffy and his guys are kicking and pounding me one of them picks up a chair and throws it At me then puffy throws my desk over and they just walk out like nothing happened and his stances I think they were trying to kill me and I just you know happened to not die I don't know And his stance is, I think they were trying to kill me and I just, you know, happened to not die. I don't know, I wasn't there. He seems to say it was very serious.

Combs turned himself in a few days later and was charged with felony assault. He was freed on $15,000 bail and ultimately pled down to a misdemeanor. His sentence was one day of court ordered anger management. Oh, Jesus. That's what hundreds of millions of dollars gets you in lawyers, man. Yeah.

That's the thing is like money is the savior of all problems. Yeah, yeah. Nearly all. Like as with Epstein, you can't eventually hit a line. Speaking of hitting a line, my line is it's time for ads. So here you go. Welcome to Decisions Decisions, the podcast where boundaries are pushed and conversations get candid. Join your favorite hosts, me, Weezy WTF,

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The couple were partying when someone else at the club insulted Diddy and threatened his protege, a rapper named Shine. A write-up in The Independent summarizes what happens next in the kind of voice that you usually use for like the Israeli military or cops. A dispute ensued, shots were fired, and three bystanders were injured,

including a woman who was shot in the face. Combs fled in a Lincoln Navigator with J.Lo, his bodyguard and his driver, along with a stolen gun none of them had a license for, as cops found out when they stopped the car. Combs was found not guilty in March 2001 of four counts of illegal possession of a gun and one count of bribery after a trial

that doubled as a media spectacle. Proving what a force the rapper had become, fans turned up at the courthouse for seven weeks and workers at the building, upon his acquittal, threw open the windows to chant his name and leave him alone. Must be nice. I mean, you know, we have this amazing celebrity worship culture in our country. It's just inevitable all the time, right? It's like they, we will, no matter who,

find some sort of martyr or savior or just God in whatever exists inside celebrity, we're happy to have that. We're happy to have somebody that we can go to a courthouse on our day off of work. Yeah, and cheer when they get off after probably shooting a woman in the face. After probably shooting somebody. One of the things that's amazing is that like,

if you read that like, a dispute ensued, shots were fired. Diddy is so rich at this point that he has become included by journalists in the special exonerative grammatical case that only gets, normally it's like for cops, right? Shots were fired, someone was hit. There was a gun, a non- the non registered illegal gun in his possession Yeah, the whole situation if there's there's still a lot of like what happened much likely yeah

Yeah, the story gets really convoluted. There's stuff coming out right now about it You know that it's been 20 years And we're still just now getting like the pieces that come out about stuff about like oh this Actually happened or this person was involved. So It's definitely a bit of like, you know Lost a time and the whole concept of how unreliable human beings are it like recounting things that have happened to them even Completely sober with no issues not at a club at two o'clock in the morning in New York. I have clear procedural memories of about 30%

of our friendship, Will. Yeah. It's all flashes. It's all flashes. It's moments. It's a Polaroid picture in my head. You're puking in that prime parking lot. Turns out.

So, Combs thanked God after the verdict and made a big show of going to church after. To further separate himself from the event, he changed his name officially to P. Diddy, telling Vanity Fair, when I changed names, I put periods on those eras. And the P. Diddy era, I love that, got off from a fucking club shooting time

to become P Diddy. The P Diddy era was lucrative indeed. He released more albums, he acted in several movies, and he started producing reality television. He gets that Sirach vodka deal. Right, yeah, this is the Kennedy Kane era, right? Yeah, yeah. Making the band.

Yeah, making is the Kennedy Kane era, right? Yeah, yeah. Making the band. Yep, making the band. In 2002, he won awards for his menswear fashion line. Sean John did cause a minor scandal for him when it was found that the clothing he sold was made in Honduran sweatshops with a terrible record for workers' rights. It happens, doesn't it? It happens.

Yeah, you're gonna try and get that cost of production down. Gotta be some sweatshots. Yeah. You know, you're gonna try and get that cost of production down. Gotta be some sweatshots. Yeah, gonna have to sweatshop. None of that kept him down for long. In 2004, he performed at the Super Bowl. He started his famous voter die campaign, that election season.

Oh man, that was huge. If you were a teenager in the 90s, you definitely saw it. Pete Diddy was telling you to vote. Yep, Pete Diddy was recommending people to you. Yeah, money continued to flow by the hundreds of millions. As the Bush years came to an end, P. Diddy changed his name yet again, this time dropping the P and becoming just Diddy.

His white parties remained infamous social events, but he also held increasing numbers of freak-offs. These were not for public consumption and acted as an opportunity for him to provide himself and his celebrity friends with endless young women drugs and young women on drugs. This brings me to the story of Latroia Grayson, who at age 23 won tickets via a radio show to attend a Diddy party. Her only recollections of the event were meeting Mary J. Blige, having a drink and then blacking out because again, she was drugged.

She has hazy memories of three or four guys she didn't know taking her out of the room. She woke up in the hospital very ill and vomiting until she was released several hours later. Quote, I left with no shoes on. My shirt was kind of ripped. I noticed all my money was taken out of my purse except for like $20. I got robbed for my money. I had just enough to get back to a motel in a cab. It's so fucked up.

Like these people are also not wealthy people. They're doing this because they don't have money in the first place. No, she won a contest on the radio. And then you get robbed anyway. That kiddies party. Now she also says she realized afterwards that her vagina was sore.

She's not certain what happened because again, she was drugged. Almost certainly not a good story. I don't remember half the things that happened to me yesterday, half sober. You know, literally they found baby oil with GHB in it. They were fucking around up in that place. Horrible.

In the wake of all this, I've read a ton of stories of people that have recounted their ditty situation, and so many of them, like, induced with drugs in the most despicable ways, the unexpected ways, not even drinking ways, like the, I had a soda ways, you know, like not crossing even a boundary of alcohol, you know? And so it's like to see this shit happen to people, it's, it's like, it's, it's targeted and mean and shitty. It's like, it's, it's just like, yes, it's evil.

It is evil. I'm not a god person, but it's evil. It's like going after people that are just living normal lives and trying to survive. This person won a contest. Won a contest to hang, exactly. And this is how it ended. That's disgusting, vile evil. Yes, it's horrible.

It's like the type of shit that you're like, what the fuck? And I'm not done with the story Unfortunately, I'm gonna read next from an article on MSN after the incident Grayson flew back to her home state Oklahoma and it claims to have received an unsettling phone call the next day in which a female Allegedly attempted to dissuade Grayson from speaking up regarding the ordeal. She recounted the anonymous woman's warning She had all my information and was basically telling me that I couldn't do anything about it, that Puff Daddy was a famous person and I wouldn't get anywhere with the issue if

I tried to do anything. Puzzled, Grayson queried, so I'm like, well, how did you even get my phone number? You know anything about my money being missing? She's like, no, I don't know nothing about that. I'm like, well, I mean, how did you even get my phone number? Rude, man. It'm like, well, I mean, how did you even get my phone number? Rude old man. It's just so dark, dude. This fucking nation, the power dynamic as someone who has been in the industry.

Right. It's like. Even people that you're like a teenager, 20 year old girl, whatever, from fucking Oklahoma with no money, and he is goddamn P.D. Let me let me put this in perspective for people for real. Yeah. All right. I was going into the music industry. I was a 26 year old male six foot tall hundred and eighty five pounds in the pretty decent shape you know with combat experience because I was an ex-Marine with combat experience who had been shot 28 times. I felt pressure from people at times. I felt pressured to do things that I didn't want to do at times.

So in perspective of being just a naive person trying to get into the music industry, like young, like no real harsh life experience. It is easy to see that you could be asked to do something, be put in positions you don't wanna be in, and how far people will make you go just because you're afraid, because you're like actually believe that, like you have power that I don't understand. And we're talking about the people who know something

was done to them and who have spoken out about it for every one of these, not only are there, obviously there are people who haven't spoken up, but there are also people who may be years away from like actually coming to grips with, no, actually that was bad. That was like really fucked up what happened. I even thought about it as like a good thing for a while

or at least like a mixed thing bag for him, but like, no, that was actually really fun. Like there's people coming to terms with that right now still. Yeah, absolutely. Grayson is not yet part of any of the ongoing lawsuits against Sean, but her case represents the edge of how women were victimized at his events, right?

In that she's not entirely sure what happened or even if she was sexually assaulted, because again, drugged. But the well-lit photos full of celebrities existed for one purpose, to burnish Sean's image. In order to keep his famous and wealthy friends happy and to state his own desires, he also had to bring in, as you stated, all of these young women

to act as party favors, right? That's how we bring, you have these radio contests, some of them are paid sex workers, some of them are women. Okay, you've just gotten started in your career, you know, in the music industry or as a model, you're at a low level in it right now. Why don't you like come over to this party, you know? Like, why don't you, you know,

and then you get there and then you get coerced. Some of the women at these parties are paid sex workers, but many of them are like, great, the women are being poached in one way or another, right? There's a different method for all of them. And that means Diddy's not handling this himself. He has a team of people who are using different methods

constantly to find women, because these parties are happening constantly. This is the 1970s equivalent of the roadie who picks the girls out of the concert, you know, that look like they're down type shit. More people than work at the company Sophie and I run. Their job is just to keep young women coming to these parties.

He is spending God knows how many millions of dollars a year on just that part of it. Right, and it shows even when he was busted in Florida, I believe it was like he had a drug mule with him at the time. It was like he was always employing people to be the bad guy in the situation. Right, you have someone driving ahead of you with the drugs.

Yeah. Yes, you give that shit to somebody else, that's their problem. If they get caught, you have accepted, you are the one that goes to jail. You say, yes, this is mine, and you go to jail. That's the accepted position of that person, for sure. Yeah, Precious Muir, a former Playboy model,

was one of the women who attended a number of his parties. She claims that he provided a car service to drive models to and from the events, and that Diddy had agents basically picking women out in public and plying them with invites. She summarized the pitch one of these guys gave her as, "'I host these amazing parties. "'Everything is taken care of.

"'You don't have to worry about anything. "'We provide accommodation, "'so when you go to the Hamptons, there is a house you can stay at, which is very beautiful, very lavish, very stylish, and you don't have to worry about anything. You don't have to pay for anything. Everything is covered." At the time she started attending, Precious was new to the industry without power or connections.

Being invited to these parties seemed like the opportunity of a lifetime. You can impress these guys, make your career, and then you're just kind of, as she said, we were kind of thrown in at the deep end amongst all these people that are well established. People automatically knew that we were new faces. We were new talent and we were vulnerable. We were seen maybe as fresh meat. The power of influence, the power of like being able to change your life in a moment. Oh yeah. You know, like we have a thousand of these stories. We have a thousand of bone thugs in the studio.

One woman came in and sang the hook and it was the moment of her. Like that's the thing that keeps that shit going is the dream. If you're in entertainment, I can say like, when I was new in my career, if I had had to do something horrible for myself and my brain and body in order to get a break as a writer when

I was a baby writer. Right. Like I thought about it. Like I was like, yeah, I'll do anything. Right. Like that's where your head is if you're trying to break in. And that's what that's why so much bad stuff happens. Right. Right. Like it's the hardest. I mean, the reward is so great, right? The reward of being like at the top of this industry Yeah, so great that it is really hard to deny that there is like when you want it that bad, right? You you want it bad enough to put in 80 hours a hundred hours a week doing it Yeah, right. You also want it bad enough to like cross some lines every now and then yeah, you know, and it's difficult to Yeah, does it matter difficult to face those moments.

What happens to me? Right, yeah. Right, right. Everybody goes through that thing. It's like, okay, I'm fine as long as it just fucks me up. Right? Right. That's really the thing.

It's just gonna fuck me up. Like I can take that. I can take some trauma. Yeah, I can take some trauma. That dude, everybody that's been in this industry for real knows that it's fine if it's fucking me it now I have had my own moments of like no no no I won't watch you fuck somebody else up Yeah, no yeah, and I won't watch you do this to another person

Yeah, and that the problem is that there's just so many people who don't have that line right of course the line is also I'll let you fuck me up I'll let you ruin me yeah, You know, I'll let you ruin me Yeah, so it's like as long as no one else is seeing that it's okay. Yeah Yeah, so because of the nature of how the lawsuits are coming out over this I have no choice but to jump around So I'm just going to stay right now in February of 2024 a record producer named Rodney Jones jr. F filed a federal complaint against Sean, accusing him of running a human trafficking network to stalk his parties with women and girls.

From a write-up in Vulture, according to Jones, as he alleges in the complaint, Combs reached out to Jones in 2022 to help him produce songs, but Jones claims the work Combs required of him went far beyond producing music. He claims in the lawsuit that he was tasked with procuring drugs and soliciting sex workers to perform sex acts to the pleasure of Mr. Combs. Jones alleges that Combs also required him to tape these sex acts and that Combs would often threaten to inflict bodily harm on him if he did not comply with his demands. Jones alleged in his complaint that Combs kept specific bottles of alcohol designated for females on hand and And according to Mr. Jones, Mr. Combs forced all the women to drink laced DeLeon liquor. Upon information and belief, Mr. Combs laced the liquor with ecstasy, the lawsuit claims.

He also accuses Combs of sexual harassment and assault for allegedly grabbing him without his consent and forcing him to work while Combs paraded around naked. Jones also alleges that Combs once left him alone in a makeshift studio on a yacht with Cuba Gooding Jr. Cuba Gooding Jr. God damn it! I have been twitching with anticipation talking about Cuba Gooding Jr. Yeah, yeah, here's where Cuba comes in. God damn it, Cuba Gooding Jr. Oh my God, dude. The fucking Cuba Gooding Jr. If you start to know- He gropes the guy, folks.

He is the worst. Cuba Gooding Jr. If you are watching on YouTube right now or whatever, I'm over here twitching. What else is going on in your life, Cuba? I have been twitching, waiting for Cuba Gooding Jr.'s name to come out of your mouth because God damn Cuba Gooding Jr., the disgusting piece of shit. So fucked up.

Cuba Gooding Jr. Every, read, spend 10 minutes of your life and read about what Cuba Gooding jr. Did to this guy and And then follow that up with a cursory. I mean the least the Google search of anything else he's done that guy is the biggest piece of shit that is ever if you've ever Wondered like we all did for a period of time after he won that Oscar Why hasn't he been in thing cuz he's a fucking monster? Monster yeah, because he's a fucking monster. I this is my Hannibal Berners bill Cosby moment

I thought I'm Cuba Gooding jr. Is a monster and we need to enact laws and federal goddamn Statutes against this person. He's a horrible human being and what he has done to the world is disgusting. Take the sanctions off of Cuba the country and put them off onto Cuba the guy. Immediately, immediately. You know who he did play though. Radio? He played fucking OJ Simpson in that one.

He did play OJ and to be honest, he was killed. You mean he played OJ in the TV show Oh, J simpsons Played OJ in in the TV show where Ross from friends plates, right? Dude it breaks my heart every time I think about that thing because like oh God cuba good and juniors a horrible human being he did horrible things. Yeah, and somehow Knocks it out of the park is OJ No, but like has managed to evade all of this puppy like shit Hopefully that's coming to an end now cuz stuff about him more stuff is coming out about him

You know we could talk more about Cuba, but I think we've we've made our point. He'll get his own episode Give it time. Yeah. Combs' lawyers have denied the allegations and described Jones as a con man. Subsequent allegations and the federal indictment against Combs seemed to back up a number of the allegations made by Jones. A few months before Jones filed that complaint in February, in December of 2023, a Jane Doe filed a lawsuit in Manhattan alleging that she was gang raped and trafficked by Combs and bad boy records president Harvey Pierre when she was in the 11th grade.

These allegations comport with the scenario Precious Mirror described in her interview with the Mirror. Apparently Pierre met this 11th grader at a lounge in Detroit and used Diddy's name to draw her in. Combs then approached and told her, her hey you're welcome on my private jet Which was flying to his studio once they were there She was given lots of drugs and quote gang raped by combs Pierre and an unknown third person There are a lot of other hideous details

Yes, we don't you you know, I guess that term gang rape make no mistake This is a story that repeats itself dozens and dozens of times across every so many children to the point where it starts to be like oh my god we missed Jimmy Savile for like yeah 60 years we didn't see it. He's getting his episode soon too, don't you worry. We missed it all? Oh man. Turns out we almost always do. Yeah yeah we miss it a lot of times. Yeah. Yeah We're not as brilliant as we think we're the rumors abounded. There was tons of it. Have it like oh, yeah you hear it all the time, but you just Make like you make the decisions to keep yourselves out of those situations smaller scale just being you know, I've been in comedy

I was a Jace I was never a big stand-up guy but like I did a little and a lot of my friends did. I went out to regular events as I was employed in comedy. And like, you just get told by people, you meet someone, and they'll be like, oh, we should hang out. And then someone else will be like, don't hang out with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's a fucking. Don't hang out with that guy. It's a bad idea. Usually a woman that you work with who will say like, that guy's a piece of shit. You don't want to know him. That guy's a piece of shit. You don't want to know him.

That guy's a piece, like, you know, yeah, right And I said that earlier too. It's like that old crusty dude. That's like a man. Don't work with that guy, you know Hey, yeah Yeah You don't want to be near that here the stories for a long time before you're ever asked to do the things You know and like but the problem comes when you don't hear the stories You know the probably comes when you are new to town and you're the first person to sit down and somebody's like, hey, man, fucking Oklahoma, right. And getting flown in.

Yeah. All you know is the reputation of that person that exists in the tabloids or on the Internet. You don't know the story about, hey, man, don't go to those parties because it's not good. You know, bad shit. In 2006, Diddy's longtime partner, Kim Porter, gave birth to twins. hey man don't go to those parties because it's not good you know? It's bad shit. In 2006, Diddy's longtime partner Kim Porter gave birth to twins. It was the same year that a friend gave birth to his daughter Chance. Kim considered this a betrayal and broke things off with Diddy.

While all this was going on, he was also starting a quote unquote relationship with a young woman named Cassandra Ventura. He had signed her to his label at age 19 and started a sexual relationship with her shortly thereafter. He was 37 at the time. It was Cassandra's allegations against him that would eventually open the floodgates

of legal consequences for Diddy. But before we get to that, I'm gonna quote from the Independent summarizing just a series of his trials in the mid aughts. Eight months after his 2014 Howard commencement speech, TMZ reported that he punched Drake in a Miami nightclub because of a feud over a song, which in a rare case for these episodes,

points for ditty on that. Six months later, he was arrested and charged in California with three counts of assault with a deadly weapon, one count of making terrorist threats, and one count of battery, after allegedly attacking one of his son's football coaches at UCLA. The assault reportedly involved a kettlebell,

but prosecutors ultimately decided not to pursue Belletti charges. Cause his son Justin tried to play, by the way, son Justin's not big enough to play football. But like, oh my God. You gotta do something real bad for me to be on the side of a football coach, guys. Yeah.

Right. So. Anyway, speaking of football coaches, coach yourself on over to this podcast. What? At? Sorry, I don't know why I did that. You were almost there.

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The epic tale of Gilgamesh and P Diddy. Are we gonna get into the Cassie stuff now? We are, we're gonna get into the Cassie stuff now. Yes, Cassie who was for a while is in Qidu if we're doing the Gilgamesh, anyway, whatever. Let's talk Cassandra. After his split from Kim Porter, she was the woman largely seen as Diddy's public partner.

She was a singer and a model in her own right. Super talented. Yeah, very talented. The two are generally depicted in media as like a power couple, right? Sure. In a civil lawsuit filed earlier this year, Mismintura claims that from the beginning, Sean used his wealth and power to force her into a

quote, manipulative and coercive romantic and sexual relationship. He assaulted her constantly, beating and kicking her and regularly leaving quote, black eyes, bruises and blood. Cassandra describes his freak offs in her lawsuit and alleged that he would often secretly film the days of debauchery with his famous friends The videotapes doubled as fuel for extortion if anyone crossed him Which is part of why his social circle was so loyal and so quiet for so long, right? He has videos of them doing the crimes again The movie don't blink really does care a lot of this and as a bonus has Christian Slater And that's never a bad time. Yeah, Christian Slater is amazing man. He's fucking great. Yeah

Yeah, it's dark man it like this yeah, I do you talk about the fact that Kim Porter also dies Do we yes, yes at age 47 that hasn't happened yet though I mean, there's a lot of like where it gets to the point where it's like god, dude like The people around you know many things. Yeah, there's just too many things the kid Cuddy explosion like of his car He where he says yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes the kid cut it. Yes. There's so many things that you're like Oh my god, dude. You are a bad person. Yes, you're a bad Yes, there's something bad about you. And I just like every person has a,

oh, did you ever work with this guy type story? It's like, it's one of those like badges of honor almost sometimes we're here in the industry where it's like, oh yeah, man, I spent a week with Diddy, man. You know, it was crazy, man. Speaking of which, let's talk about the Kid Cudi story because you hear about this first in 2012, gossip blogs report that Cassie, who was dating Kid Cudi story, because you hear about this first in 2012. Gossip blogs report that Cassie,

who was dating Kid Cudi at the time, and Diddy had had a fight in a club. And now in the lawsuit, Cassie claims that Diddy, quote, "'Blew up a man's car after he learned "'he was romantically interested in Ventura.'" And here's my favorite quote. This is from the Salon.com article.

The New York Times said through a spokesperson that Kid Cudi confirmed Cassie's account that his car Exploded in his driveway. This is all true. He said oh my god. Yeah, just a car explosion Yeah, no way to say who did it. Yeah, man. Who knows I was pissing this one dude off and Sometimes shit happens Sometimes shit happens. Oh, he's cool Yeah, I don't know anything about him, but he's cool and he has one less car

than he would otherwise have. We can say that for sure. So true Robert. From the New York Times, quote, Cassie in her lawsuit said that Mr. Combs directed frequent freak-offs at high-end hotels around the country, directing her at the events to pour excessive amounts of oil on herself

and tell her where to touch the prostitutes while he filmed and masturbated. We're not gonna like go into a ton of detail about the massive amount of baby oil, but there's a lot of it, some of it's drugged. This is how it's being used. There was a reason why they confiscated like a thousand bottles of baby oil from a store.

Literally a thousand bottles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like, there's a reason why that that happened. And there was absolutely- To the point where Costco had to come out And be like dog. We don't we don't sell that shit We are not in on that shit The only reason I can think of to drug it is because you are getting it inside people in their mucus membrane

Yes, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, like fucking MDMA or whatever. It isn't going to absorb. It's not a bottle Yeah, exactly someone's vagina and so again like it's just it's hideous, right? Yeah, like we don't need to belabor that point. I think you get it right. Cassie says in her lawsuit, he treated the forced encounter as a personal art project, adjusting the candles he used for lighting to frame the videos that he took. It was an art tour.

He's an art tour of sex crimes. Yeah. I wonder if he tour of sex crimes. Yeah. I wonder if Ian Epstein ever partied. They certainly had the opportunity. I don't know, but Trump's the common link, which is hilarious because it's like, yeah, of course you say Diddy is a great guy. He's my friend and also your best friends with Epstein.

Yeah, yeah. In 2018, Kim Porter passes away. The cause of death was initially listed as deferred, but it was later confirmed that she died of pneumonia. Right. And there's a lot of conspiracy theories. And would be remiss to not conspiracy talk it. There's a lot of people.

Maybe. But to be fair, I know King Combs posted. Christian. Yeah, Christian, yeah. He posted that there has never been any question amongst the children that that his dad He will do just die sometime. Yes. It's absolutely reasonable to say that people do in fact just die sometimes But yeah again people have also said maybe that death should be looked into and probably not a bad

Take a look take a look JFK's head just exploded. Yeah He just did Just do that sometimes it's a pre-existing condition Pre-existing in 2017 did he changed his name yet again? He told the world he would now go by love or brother love and apparently Yeah, yeah This I fucking knew this this is the Snoop Lion era Yeah, yeah He changes his name because love is his legal middle name. He tells Vanity Fair at the time love is a mission

I feel like that's one of the biggest missions that will actually shift things but besides that we the world is different We have the internet. We have the power. We have a culture. I have us on a five year plan. First off, fucking talking like Stalin there. Second, that was more than five years ago. How'd the plan work out, Diddy? Yeah, yeah. Nailed it. More loving?

Did you fix it? Yeah. Nailed it. Oh man. Good job, bro. Fucking Joseph Diddy Beria. Oh, fucking hell. Now during this in Joseph Diddy barrier Now during this period did he's public image remained mostly benign in art It was from he named his like youngest baby love right yes. He did yeah, it happens with famous people

You see it with Elon Musk and X. You know yeah, just name your kids Something else. I don't care what you name your kid Just name your kids something else. I don't care what you name your kid Yeah, why we got to be weird about everything Yeah now in articles from the time He was vetted as a genius producer and interviewer seemed happy to ignore the numerous assault allegations that way You know we're kind of in the shadows But not too shadowy to have found and the very public fact that he had definitely killed people through negligence and had them murdered He even managed to avoid me too entirely in fact in that interview

He tells Vanity Fair the movement inspired him and quote showed me you can get maximum change Weinstein that he'd been fucking looking for a project with what a I mean honestly sometimes people are fucking out there doing the you know dodgeball equivalent of making it through life Yeah, you know just can't get me like whoo dodge that bullet clearly It's clean sailing from here on out Which is crazy because I mean so feel back man This is the Danny the Cane stuff they talked about a lot of shit that he did. Yeah, so much super adjacent Yeah, never sexual assault, but yeah super adjacent Yeah, I talked to Robert about this cuz I one of the first a brio day

Yeah, a brio day comes out for years like at least a couple of years saying I don't think she sees or has evidence and obviously you don't want to casually before all this breaks Call him a section. He has a lot of money For so many years She did everything she could but also she said Don jr. Was her soulmate So people like really stopped taking her and like had an affair with him. There's like a lot of stuff there. So people didn't believe her, but she was fucking right.

Yeah. Yeah, I think one of the most direct things she said in 2022, an interview on the Call Her Daddy podcast, she said that Diddy had fired her because she quote, wasn't willing to do what was expected, not talent wise, but in other areas. Right. Right. Brutal, brutal right brutal brutal brutal brutal

Very clear what that means yeah, and here's another quote from an article again This is before everything breaks in varieties is 2019 called Aubrey O'Day is still recovering from making the band PTSD and making the yeah the reality show that did all of them suffered so much It's so horrible puff is a very difficult person to work with. Everything had to be perfect. I remember times where he looked at my toenails and was like, what is your third toenail doing? Go get that shit fixed before you walk into a room.

Or we would be in rehearsals performing an hour and a half set over and over. Bitch, you get your toenails corrected, or I will fucking end you. I would walk in for five minutes with a camera and say Aubrey Why are you sweating you look like a wet dog? You're the hot one so you think anyone wants to see that and again? This is all pretty minor next to all the horrible sex yeah

Yeah, it's like you understand It's like somebody that will go to the lengths of like fucking with your third toe right is like the type of control make you Feel power about who you are. Yeah. Yeah Guys, listen, I distinctly remember a clip from that show where all of them were presented to him and he like went one by one critiquing their personal appearance and the things he said were Just yeah Inhumane, but specifically that story is crazy because like Aubrey, like basically you could even see it in it,

like morphed into like whatever was asked of her. And then he'd tear that down too. So, you know, devil's advocate, this stupid situation because I hate to do it, but like, I've been on the, I've been in reality shows for some reason, when you want to like hire somebody to pretend to be an engineer in a reality show because all these people want to be Musicians like I get hired to do these like stupid reality shows to play myself in a reality show And so I've had these situations where I see the way it actually goes down and it is Absolutely people pushing the worst narrative

But here's the thing that I think that is really important to understand about it is absolutely people pushing the worst narrative but here's the thing that I think that is really important to understand about it is that some people their worst is not that bad you know like in comparative speaking is like you see them do these like like like oh they're trying to ham it up for TV and they're not really good at being like mean people right you can feel the difference between somebody who's capable of actually coming up with shit that makes people feel Horrible about themselves, you know like to really like be a shitty person towards somebody and that's the type of thing that you see

In this where it's like man to like attack your toes like the way your toes look to attack like these like Arbitrary things they know that that's something that cuts deep on a person that makes them second guess themselves, like deep inside themselves, you know? Yep, yep, absolutely. So about five years after saying that he was inspired by me too, in that article for Vanity Fair, Cassandra came forward with her lawsuit and she was joined very quickly in a flood of lawsuits.

Not all of the people charging Sean with sexual assault are women, we have mostly focused on that, but I wanna be very clear that he is alleged of assaulting men too, not just through Cuba. One man currently incarcerated in Michigan for kidnapping and criminal sexual conduct himself says that Diddy drugged and raped him in Detroit in 1997. A judgment was briefly issued on that case,

but Diddy's lawyers, because they hadn't appeared in court Uncleared me what happened, you know, but like that's not the only allegation of him abusing a man too, right? I just hear about that. There's just less of it. Yeah, it's damn near 50-50 on the ratio on this it's like it's pretty even he he seems to be an equal opportunity Sexual assault and he's got famous friends who are gay and creeps. And there's also just like so many like allegedly things that have happened that like obviously we can't comment as fact right now, but like as this trial proceeds, I'm sure a lot more

will come out, but there's a lot of grooming allegations as well. And to be very fair, it would be irresponsible to not mention the amount of people that will jump on a situation because they are themselves shitty people that will like jump on something, oh, this happened to me because they see the wave and it will give them a tiny bit of respect or money or whatever the fuck.

But without a doubt, there is actual allegations that exist inside of this that are horrifying. Yeah, horrifying and real. So there are so many of these allegations that we're not gonna cover more of them, right? We've done it. We have a seven-parter.

I think this gives you a pretty good understanding of him and the fact that I've cut out allegations, which I've cut out like two for everyone. I've included says nothing about the legitimacy of those. It's just a space thing I should say a bit here about Christina Coram cage O-r-r-a-m she was combs as chief of staff and as a co-defendant in the Jones lawsuit We talked about the lady from Oklahoma who was like brought into a party and drugged and possibly sexually assaulted and then called by a woman afterwards and threatened I think there's a decent chance that was Christina Corum Jones claims that Corum bought a lot of the drugs and actually handled the booking and paying of sex workers for combs as parties She was his Gillen Maxwell in other words and also it's worth noting again

I keep bringing up that movie that I didn't appreciate as much until this all came out link twice the woman who is or there's like an older woman who is like the creepy sex CEOs like Like fixer and I she's Christina Cora that who I didn't realize I directed was there is always somebody who is adjacent and going to Use their vulnerabilities with people, you know their ability to access their vulnerabilities with people, their ability to access the vulnerability of people. That makes you feel like, oh, it's a woman. I don't have to worry about what they'll,

there was always one of those. There was always one of those every single time. And that's Christina Corum in this story. We'll see what happens to her. Sean Cuffee Combs was arrested on September 16th, 2024, several months after the FBI raided his LA mansion and seized firearms, illegal drugs, and more than a thousand bottles of baby oil.

Combs has denied all charges and pled not guilty. More recently, a judge declined to set bail for him, noting that he's still posed a danger to the community. He gets denied bail like once a week, motherfucker tries to get out once a week Yeah, he's in the same part of the jail very recently There's been all sorts of allegations of him You know stealing phones or bribing other inmates to let him use their phone time and like to intimidate witnesses

Pacific like he's already in jail trying to run shit from what they say. So it's like, it's not like he's just chilling out in there being calm. He is absolutely still trying to run an intimidation game from inside prison. Yep. And that's the episode everybody. Well, you know, I feel really good about money. Time to go party. Yeah. I just, I just want to make a lot of money so I can do anything I want.

I don't know man. I'm with you. I think I think we just we build an empire Take it to the FDA. We really And that'll save us, you know and our reputations will die historic, you know in a gunfight with the FDA That's all I want, man. That's the way to go down, yeah. That's all I want, you know, because they say you only die when the last person that remembers your name dies, you know? It's like- And every one of those FDA agents

has gotta remember us forever. All of their children, all of their children's children. Uh-huh. They'll never forget. Yep, now we're gonna have to start selling supplements first, Will. Oh my God. Oh my God.

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