Behind the Bastards - Part Two: Behind the Bastards Q&A: 2026 Edition

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:40 Welcome to Behind the Bastards' Q&A special. Happy New Year. I'm Sophie Lichtenen, and I'm here with my business partner, Robert Evans. Robert, how are you? You know, bracing for the new year, getting ready to really take 2026 on, you know. Somebody asked the last time you ate inside
Starting point is 00:01:03 in Arby's. Is that, is there lore to that or is that just somebody asking me? No, I don't have a history with Arby. I don't like Arby's. As a kid, I loved Hardys. I don't know why I think because Hardys is Carl's Jr., though, isn't it? I know they're owned by the same people. I swear to God, as a kid, I felt like the curly fries were different. Like, that's what I loved about Hardee's as a kid, because I was born in St. Louis, and I have a couple of memories from there before we moved to the farm in Oklahoma. And one of them, one of them, them is eating at Hardys and them having the best curly fries. And then they're not being Hardys around. And I felt like as a kid, all of the other curly fries were inferior to Hardy's
Starting point is 00:01:43 curly fries. Now, this is like a six or a seven year old me. So I'm not, I'm not speaking up for modern Hardys. I'm not even speaking up for the quality of Hardy's Curly fries back then. I was a child. But I don't have any Arby's lore is, I guess, where I'm ending. I'm Arby's anger because It was like one of the last fast foods I ate before I stopped being able to eat gluten. And it was terrible. It was not good. I would have liked, you know, almost anything else. So, fuck you, Arbys.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Unless you want to sponsor us, then I love you. Yeah, if you want to sponsor us, Arbys, I'll tell people never to eat any other food. I'll tell them that their lettuce is killing them, you know. I'll spread whatever lies you want. There's lead in fucking Chick-fil-A, you know? I don't care. Of all the bastards you've covered, have any surprised you by how awful they were? Yeah, I mean, that's definitely how.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I mean, Georgia Tan would be a great one where I wasn't aware of this person. And then I read the summary that, like, yeah, she basically created modern adoption, but she was also really abusive to kids. And I was like, okay, so this will be pretty bad. And I was still shocked by how bad it was, right? Yeah. Like, it is, she, that story is bucked. And then, you know, the one episodes we just did on, um, the slave owner in Jamaica,
Starting point is 00:03:07 whose name is escaping me right now. But the guy who kept like a diary of all of the times he raped enslaved women. I knew rape was a massive part of slavery. I've known that for a long time, you know, in, in the United States and everywhere else the slave trade was proud, the Atlantic trade was, and obviously every time people have been able to enslave other people. sexual violence has been a part of that. I was aware it was a particular aspect of the plantation system, all of all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Like, this was not. But even so, the details and the details of stuff like pickling, like rubbing pickle spices into open wounds, making people shit in each other's mouths as a form of punishment. The, just what that said about the mix of laziness and cruelty that was a major driving force. It was these people who were not respected elsewhere in society, had in a lot of cases kind of failed out of other parts of society, or just didn't, weren't ever going to fit in within, like, the high society back home. You get this sense of both, like, frustration and this lazy kind of cruelty, where it's clearly like, you're just fucking around trying to, like, figure out
Starting point is 00:04:20 what you can get away with. Like, there's not even... I don't know how to describe it, but like it's, it was upsetting to me in a way that I, I kind of was surprised by, like the, the boredom inherent to a lot of the cruelty in the slave trait and in the way slavery worked. That really did take me by surprise. That and I think for me, the episodes that you, you've done a variety of different episodes about this, but, you know, like the Elon school and the wilderness camps and survival schools. and just like that nobody Nobody said,
Starting point is 00:04:58 hey, maybe like don't abuse those kids. Yeah, and just how common child abuse is. Yeah. That's also like another thing that really wears on me is how central abuse of children is in every bad movement, bad political and cultural movement in certainly Western history. and not to limit it just to the West, but, and the fact that violence, the ability to abuse
Starting point is 00:05:30 children is the center of the conservative project today. You know, it's a core pillar of fascism. Children are the property of their parents. And so if kids become aware of ideas that are uncomfortable to their parents or become inspired to be a kind of person that is not in line with what their parents want them to be, that's not an example of human beings being human beings. That's a problem, right? That's like that's an injustice that's been done to that parent,
Starting point is 00:06:01 that they have to see their child not become a carbon copy of them. And the fact that so many people that that's like a dominant political belief for a lot of the country, it's upsetting. And it's difficult because, like, kids can't just be independent people. immediately. They can't just have the same rights as an adult immediately because they don't understand the world. We do in fact have to teach them things and guide them. And that's going to mean sometimes saying, no, you can't do this thing you want because you can't just have chocolate for every meal. You can't stay up till two in the morning every night. You have school to go, right?
Starting point is 00:06:41 Like there's, there are things you have to, you have to, there's like discipline. Kids do need discipline. Kids need to be punished sometimes. They don't need to be hit, but they need to you, like, that's the only way I know of to make people understand the world they're coming into is like, you have to raise them. And that means that you are going to be invested with a degree of power over them. But I don't think that that should translate to ownership. And I think the fact that it so often does is like one of the root evils of our society that makes fixing anything major very difficult.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Because unless you fix the way children are treated and eddemeanor, educated and how we as a society see what we see the rights of a parent as being, you can't fix a lot of the other problems. Somebody asked, this is the question they asked me. They said, what are you up to during the recording of an episode? And then they want to know why it looks like I'm messing on my phone. I'm following the script, you guys. Scripts on my phone.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Following the script. We use different platforms. Also, like, the camera is like above my head. So I'd be looking up like this, which is not great. So I'm just doing my job, my friends. Believe it or not, that question has come up. Many times in my DMs, doing my job. Anyways.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Robert, do you have any Australian bastards planned for the future? Well, we did one. Yeah. Last year. Yeah. We did do one late in the year that I felt was a really, strong episode about the island of Garry. And, you know, the bastardry inherent to that and, like, the myth that got spread about
Starting point is 00:08:33 the brutality of the natives that was not really accurate or fair and how it led to justify a lot of violence in days afterwards. And, yeah, like, there's definitely more Aussies I want to cover. I am not as knowledgeable about... There's two things that have pulled me back from doing more in the past. Number one, I just don't know a lot about Australia. And number two, the Dallup guys
Starting point is 00:08:58 have done a lot of Australia episodes. And several times I found myself... And obviously, we have overlap with the Dallup. There's some episodes I've covered first. There's a number that they covered first. That's unavoidable. It happens with lions led by don't... It's not a big deal, right?
Starting point is 00:09:14 It's history. We're all allowed to talk about history. But I try to avoid it happening, much. And I have had several times where I'm like, oh, this is an interesting Australian bastard. And they're like, oh, nope, Dallop guys just covered it. And a lot of times it's recent enough that I'm like, well, I don't want to just immediately, you know, hop on to the same thing. But like, yeah, I do definitely will cover more Aussies. Please do post on the, the subreddit, you know, I've been meaning for a while to ask the moderators to have like a stickied thread
Starting point is 00:09:43 that's just episode suggestions. I do actually find it really helpful when people suggest bastards. Because like the big effortful episodes, the bastards I know like Nixon, I know I'm going to get to Nixon, I know it's going to take a lot of time. I don't need help with that. But it is really helpful when like periodically someone
Starting point is 00:10:02 will just like, oh, here's an article that leads me to like reading for 10 hours about a piece of shit. And then I can write an episode about it. And it's something that happened in the news or it's something that like I don't need to do as crazy an amount of research on. I'm not reading three books or whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I'm not spending four or five days, you know, full time reading about this. I can do my research in one or two work days and then write the episode. It's really helpful when people suggest stuff like that. So, you know, if you've got some Aussie pieces of shit you want to hear about, suggest them. We got the same question about bastards from Mexico. I'm assuming it's the same answer. Yeah, I will add. I've been wanting to do the Poncho Villa episodes for a while.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I'm not fully certain if I'll come down on him more in the bastard or freedom fighter category. I think he's probably a, he's some A and some B. I'm not super knowledgeable about him yet other than like the broad strokes. But I've always found that period of time interesting and wanted to report. And it's also really important for like the evolution of modern counterinsurgency tactics and doctrine. And just like armored doctrine, right? It's arguably like the first use of armored vehicles in combat or at least one of it's on the, it's one. It's one of the conflicts that's sort of like you can make a case. So yeah, I'm, I'm interested in doing more Mexican bastards for sure. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Sure. When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on? Biggie. You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable? Because I want to get confident. This is DJ Hesterprin's music is therapy. A new podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist that asks one simple, question. Who do you want to be and what's the song that can take you there? Music changes what you feel and what you feel changes what you do, right? That moment where a song shifts something inside you, that's where transformation starts. This year I'm talking to experts across every area of life like personal finance icon Gene Chatsky, New York Times journalist David Gellis, relationship legend Dan Savage, human connection teacher Mark Groves, and the man who
Starting point is 00:12:17 shape my ear more than anyone, quest love. They'll bring the strategies. I'll pair them with the right records and will teach you how to use the music to make change stick. This isn't just a podcast. It's unconventional therapy for your entire year. Listen to DJ Hesterprin's Music is Therapy on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're back. Do you have a favorite bastard topic of 2025? Was there somebody you covered or something you covered that was your favorite? it. I mean, in terms of what I've felt was like the best work I did and the most useful thing, the Zizians, because there was, there was a really good article about the Zizians that was in depth, but it didn't really, it was more an in-depth article about their crimes as opposed to how they got
Starting point is 00:13:06 from A to B, you know, how the belief system started, how Ziz really evolved into a cult leader, and how they wound up being what they became, right? Like how they wanted a belief. all the things. Like, because you get, even in that, I believe it was a wired piece that was very good, uh, or Rolling Stone. I, it's in the episode, you know, I, I, I quote, I cited the sources and whatnot. But there was a really good long form piece, but it, it's still a lot of it came out as like, and here's a crazy thing they believe.
Starting point is 00:13:36 They believed, you know, this about, uh, AI, right? Or they believed this about, um, you know, like, you would just kind of get the broad strokes of like the game theory shit that they they believed about like here's why you have to murder people in all of these instances because otherwise this like cascading chain of logic will happen. But you didn't get like a here's the thought process that led them to that. And I thought that was really interesting. I thought that was the most interesting part of the Zissian story is how you you end up,
Starting point is 00:14:10 you start from like some fairly basic logical arguments. that lead you to this completely unhinged and murderous worldview in a fairly short span of time just by never looking back or really questioning where your previous conclusions have taken you. I found that really interesting. And so I was definitely like most satisfied with how those episodes came together. Which bastard do you wish you'd spent more time on slash would revisit if you could? Hmm. I mean, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we didn't finish Himmler. Yeah, we didn't finish Himmler. There's more Himmler to do. There's always more, you know, I, it, it struck me this year that I still have never done just like Hitler episodes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:56 You know, we've done a lot of Hitler episodes, but they're all, because there's so much to say about him, we've done like, here's two-parter on his sex life, right? Here's like some weird facts that you don't know about the man. Here's like some, you know, a two-parter on his history with, like, drugs and substances, right? And he shows up as like the B character and a lot of other bastardry stories. But I haven't just done a, here was Hitler's childhood, right? Here's where he came from. And I should do that. I'll make sure that happens in 2026. I wish I could do more LRH episodes. I think I've just covered everything Hubbard really did.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I don't know that there's anything else to say about him, but I do miss talking about him. Yeah. You just miss that guy. Mm-hmm. He's your special boy. Do you have a dream guest on the podcast that we haven't had on yet? I mean, Paul F. Tompkins is a dream guest, and we have had him on. I'm hoping to get him on.
Starting point is 00:15:55 He gave us a very nice shout out as Santa Claus on a podcast recently, and I would love to have him back in your future. I just, I'm always with Paul, I'm always, I really, not that all of our guests are great. I appreciate everybody who comes on the show. With someone like Paul, I really want to make sure it's like the perfect episode for him. Yeah. Right? And so I'm very like discriminating as to like what I want to pitch in that regard. I, there's some guys that like part of me thinks would be a dream to have on that I know it probably wouldn't be great.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Don't meet your heroes. I would just love to hang out with Werner Herzog more than doing a podcast with him. If I had the opportunity to do anything with Werner Herzog, it would be like cook an elaborate at dinner together, try to, like, cook with him. Because I feel like that would be the best way to, like, get to know that guy. He could be a fun guest. I don't know that that would actually, is actually how that would shake out. I want you to read a crazy, crazy script to Shaquille O'Neal.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I don't know much about Shaq. Shaq Daddy. Why would Shaq be a good guest? Because he would. He would. Because he would 100% would. He's a good time. he'd be up for it.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Which historical era would you say contains the most bastards per capita? Hard to beat the early 20th century. Late 19th, early 20th century. That's like the, from like 1850 to 1950, we are in just prime bastard territory. And I don't know entirely if it's, I'm sure a big chunk of it is just that that was, the first era in which modern historiography and modern journalism were really firing on all cylinders. And so you had a lot of detail about all of these pieces of shit. And a lot was explored and investigated and guys who in an earlier era might not have been covered because while they were doing terrible things, they weren't one of the big names.
Starting point is 00:18:05 We know about guys like Eichmann, right? Whereas if Eichmann is helping to orchestrate a genocide in the 1600s, maybe we don't get nearly as much about him, right? Maybe we get his name a couple of times, but there's not even agreement about like what he did. Just because of how the media worked, we had a lot more detail. I know that's a big chunk of it. But I also just think it was also opportunity. Like the technology was moving so fast and there was so much political disruption that there was an incredible amount of opportunity. for a bunch of people to seize and grab positions of power and influence that they wouldn't
Starting point is 00:18:45 have had access to earlier or later in more settled times. And, you know, those are, like the poem said, those are the times of monsters, right? Like, that's when, and we're unfortunately in a similar time now, where I don't, I don't know if, I don't think I would say that there's a higher percentage of bastards than now than at any other time in history, but they've never been so visible. There's so many of them that have, and because they are running the entire media ecosystem, not just like news outlets and television and whatnot, but like social media, like all of the big social media apps are run by some of the monsters who have tailored their algorithms to support other of the monsters. So it's never been, I don't know if I'd say there's more bastards
Starting point is 00:19:31 now than ever, but it's never been so hard to avoid hearing from them, right? They have the biggest microphone that they've ever been given. And also, it's a time of, you've had a bunch of different governments over the last 20 years collapse or reach moments of near collapse. You have economic turmoil, you have social turmoil and a bunch of new technologies that have given a lot of these assholes an opportunity to get the one thing they want, which is power. And they are all scrambling to position themselves as highly as possible. And ideally, they're trying to become a permanent overclass, right? A permanent, they're trying to make themselves into the new aristocracy on a global scale.
Starting point is 00:20:14 And that, I think it's had a tendency to activate a lot of people, including a lot of people who maybe in a different era wouldn't have been bastards. Like, not that they would have been good people, but they wouldn't have had seen an opportunity. to reach out and grab in being a monster to other people. Like, I wonder in a different era, if J.K. Rowling has incredible success in the early 1800s, right? She probably never gets known for anything else.
Starting point is 00:20:48 You know, maybe people would have found her letters, you know, decades after her death and been like, oh, she harbored some really bigoted views. You know, but it would have been more like HP Lovecraft, right, where you've got this guy who people, really like their writing. They become very popular. I mean, Lovecraft was after his death. But, and then also, oh, yeah, and they were, like, super racist in, like, a lot of their private correspondence. You can see some hints of it and some signs of it in some of their stories, like,
Starting point is 00:21:15 as opposed to what Rowling is, where she, this is not just a person who wrote some books people liked and also has some bigoted opinions that people became aware of later. And, oh, you can kind of see bits of it in her writing. No, this is a person who has turned themselves into an activist and is dedicating their time and their money to hurting a specific group of people as much as she possibly can. A group of people who have no like organized systemic power or wealth to even begin, you know, fighting on at the level she is fighting on in like financial terms that simply doesn't exist. And, you know, what she's doing is deeply cruel and unhinged. And I don't think something someone in her, someone would have been in a position to do.
Starting point is 00:21:59 in an earlier era, right? Not that she would have been a better person. She just wouldn't have made her bigotry everyone else's problem to the extent that she can. And I think there's a lot of that, too. I think there's a lot of guys and girls out there who are major figures of shittiness to all of us that we know that in a different era, they probably just would have kept that shit to themselves. Take a quick break, Greer back? Sure.
Starting point is 00:22:27 When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on? Biggie. You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable? Because I want to get confident. This is DJ Hester Pryn's Music is Therapy, a new podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist that asks one simple question, who do you want to be and what's the song that can take you there? Music changes what you feel, and what you feel changes what you do, right? That moment where a song shifts something inside you, that's where transformation starts. This year, I'm talking to experts across every area of life, like personal finance, icon, Gene Chatsky, New York Times journalist David Gellis, relationship legend Dan Savage,
Starting point is 00:23:06 human connection teacher Mark Broves, and the man who shaped my ear more than anyone, Questlove. They'll bring the strategies. I'll pair them with the right records and will teach you how to use the music to make change stick. This isn't just a podcast. It's unconventional therapy for your entire year. Listen to DJ Hester Prins' Music is Therapy on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Uh, Robert, has doing the show changed reviews on anything? Hmm. I don't know. How could it, how could it not, though? Like, knowledge is power. I guess, like, it depends on what you mean by changed my views in like a fundamental sense. It hasn't changed anything big in that coming into the show, I thought it was probably a bad idea to give people power. And I felt like it's probably a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:24:04 idea to give people huge amounts of money and both of those things put together damage people in ways that makes them harmful to themselves and others, right? I came into the show believing all that. Sure. And all of that has only been reinforced. I believe it more strongly than I did before. I think one of the things I have come around on, I have a much darker idea of what needs to be done to people who are trying to.
Starting point is 00:24:34 to destroy civil society, trying to destroy the lives of millions or billions of other people for their own power and wealth. I am not a rehabilitation person when it comes to those people. I am not a forgive and forget. I'm not a reconcile person. Like, I am a, if anyone progressive or liberal takes power again in this country, the responsible thing to do is a reckoning and a reckoning that will end very badly for a decent number of people. Like I am a believer in punishing the folks who are doing this right now. And I simply don't see any other way that this country can move forward and have any hope of a better future without going through a period of extreme ugliness.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And that is not something I really believed in the same way prior to doing this, but I have become convinced that one of the great, I mean, one of the great catastrophes of the 20th century was that we really botched the Nuremberg trials. We botched a lot of aspects of the peace after World War II, right? We did not punish nearly enough Nazis. And we didn't punish them with the brutality. that they deserved based on what they had done. And as a result, that's the only thing I think might have made some of the people
Starting point is 00:26:06 sticking their heads up now so boldly, less willing to do that, right? And the same thing is true with like the Confederacy after the Civil War. We should have hung a lot of those guys. I mean, every elected leader in the Confederacy should have been hung. And I think most of their military officers as well. I wouldn't have been against just hanging all of the slave owners, quite frankly, you know, by that point. And I think if we'd done that, there wouldn't have been a lost cause narrative.
Starting point is 00:26:37 We wouldn't be dealing with a lot of the problems that we're having in the United States at this point. Now that there wouldn't be other problems, not that we'd be a utopia. But I just don't think it's ethical to let people who do stuff like that go live. their lives peacefully afterwards. Do you have any gardening plans for 2026? Anything you're excited to grow this year? Not really.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I kind of half-assed it this year on the gardening. I didn't grow nearly as many potatoes. I just got kind of lazy and exhausted. I did. I have a bunch of potatoes flowering in my front yard right now that I didn't plant. They're just endemic to the yard, which is nice. That's cool. That, like, I just kind of have a permanent community of potatoes, always growing.
Starting point is 00:27:32 So I'll grow more potatoes. I'm hoping I can really get back into the swing of things there and grow more than I did last year. We're really trying to reduce the size of our herd of the sheep and goats this year, you know, giving some to friends. It's time to harvest some of the older ones. Don't get rid of, don't get rid of Sophie. There's just, there's just more animals that I want to be taking care of right now. So I'm trying to find places. You're ignoring me.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Who want some of them. I'm going to keep, I want to keep like a, you know, three. Don't get rid of him. There's too many right now. But don't get rid of him. We've bonded. I don't know what I'll do with him. But we've bonded.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Yeah, he's, he's a good, he's a good ram. He's too good at his main job, which is making more goats. So I may try to find someone who is looking at starting a herd of their own. Because he's really, he's hand-trained, he's sweet. But I also may just, you know, keep him with a couple of weathers, which are like males that have been castrated. And they can just be a little community for a while. I don't know. I don't know what I'll do with him.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I love him. I am, this year was a real like half. ass on all of the guard. I was just so tired and exhausted after 2024, the election and my dad die. I just, I couldn't get my head around it to the extent that I usually do. And I guess I'm waiting to see, I don't fully know, am I going to like wind up half-assing it again this year? Or am I going to get back into the swing of things? I don't actually know. So we'll see what Robert does in the new year. Sophie's going to do some spring gardening. Sarah, Sarah Marshall, my Sarah Marshall, the legendary Sarah.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Sarah's a very, very good gardener, and we are going to, there's a good, good spot of dirt at my house that we're going to take advantage of. So we'll grow some things. Hell yeah, you want some goats. If you get rid of Sophie, the go, I will be so butt hurt. Anyways, last question. What brought you joy this year, Robert? Uh, huh.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Great question. Your wonderful business partner. My wonderful business partner, Sophie, brought me joy. I in general, like, I feel I have a lot of satisfaction in what you and I have built here and how many of our friends have jobs and health insurance and, you know, can pay their mortgages or pay for kids or just like live. I feel good that we've been able to build basically like a little sanctuary for a, a social. small chunk of like weirdos that I love and I'm I'm proud of that it's a good thing to be able to do and I'm proud of the fact that we we actually deliver news that I think is important to like a million or so people and it seems to matter to a lot of folks we get a lot of messages
Starting point is 00:30:42 from people talking about are you talking about it could happen here you talk about it could happen here not talking about all of our shit in general a million yeah that is it could happen here itself gets well yeah but i'm talking about in terms of actual people i think we probably have somewhere around a million you know regular and semi-regular listeners i think it's more than that yeah i don't know i it's hard to tell with internet numbers you know sure we're like well over 500 million listens on behind the bastards how many people is that you know what brought me joy was seeing you and i mean i was there but you and prop doing that live show we did the live show was great yeah yeah you guys were great that night. Raising all of that money for the bail fund I really felt good about. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Yeah, I, I just love,
Starting point is 00:31:33 I try not to do too many fundraisers or ask for, I mean, thankfully, you know, ads and stuff, we're supported and we don't have to, you know, ask fans for, like, money to keep the lights on. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I've been misinterpreted in the past as saying, I think it's like immoral to do a Patreon. Not at all how I feel. It would be a very silly belief for me to hold. But I do feel good about the fact that I try to be like really cautious about like when we do fundraisers and for who. And I'm really proud of the fact that every time we do, we raise a lot of money, often tens of thousands of dollars.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And we can do it in very short order in a matter of days or like a week. you know, sometimes less. Our audience, I think because we're fairly careful about when we do it, our audience, you guys, listeners always do show up. And I feel really good about that because we're able to, we've really helped a lot of people doing that. And we've done it kind of with a lot of intention
Starting point is 00:32:38 because I do, I have a lot of respect for how hard it is to make money and the amount of work people put into having any. And so I'm going to ask our list. listeners to donate, I'm going to be really careful about it because I do respect that a lot and I want to be, you know, respectful. Any final thoughts? Anyway, I feel good about that. Huh?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Any final thoughts? I don't know. Hang in there, everybody. You know, you're the, you're all being, all of us are being slammed face first with like all of the worst. most hopeless news that can be put in front of our faces every single day and every single night. That is just how life is right now. And it's miserable. Nobody likes being bombarded with bad news at all times.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And it's meant to keep you angry and keep you wanting to fight and keep you on those apps and like sharing and scrolling and raging. And I guess what I want to... And I know that you all know this. We always talk, everyone is always talking about how bad social media is for your mental health. And we all keep using it anyway. We all keep using the phones anyway. And I'm not, you know, I spent an hour and a half this morning going between Reddit and
Starting point is 00:34:05 fucking blue sky. I'm not coming at this from like, oh, I figured out how to cleanse my life of these things. And I'm not looking down on people for not. No, not at all. But try to keep in mind when you feel like completely hopeless, everything's fucked. There's no way to fix anything that, like, you are feeling that way because billions of dollars have been devoted, tens of billions of dollars have been devoted to making you feel that way, because it's good for Mark Zuckerberg's bottom line, good for the bottom line of a couple of other
Starting point is 00:34:36 assholes, right? And while we all live in this muck and you can't fully separate yourself from it, unless you have the money to just, like, buy a homestead in the mountains and, not interact with the rest of the world, which most of us don't. You just, you have to keep in mind what, no matter how angry you get, no matter how justified the anger is, no matter what real problems you're looking at, that your emotional state in that moment is not purely based on the reality of what you're reading about, of what's happening in the world. It is also the product of a concerted effort to make you hopeless and enrable.
Starting point is 00:35:18 enraged at all times. So just keep that in mind. Find people that like the same weird shit as you and become friends with them. Yeah. That's what I did. Sure. I love all you weirdos. You know who you are.
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