Behind the Bastards - Part Two: Elon Musk is Being Sued, LMAO

Episode Date: June 8, 2023

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a podcast in which we talk about bad people. And often the bad person we talk about happens to be Elon. I, what's a good fun middle name for Elon? Balthazar, no, we do that for Jordan Peterson. Elon, we're talking about Elon Musk. We're continuing with losses. Elon, Jordan, Balthazar, Shapiro, Peterson, Musk. Elon, it is Musk.

Elon, Crouter, boy, that's a horrible AI-Masso. It is. It's the opposite thing I want to think about. I want to wipe that out of my brain. No, no, no. I want that to be second hand news. No context for that. I guess we're not we're not we're still we're not doing you guys listen to the the the the the I guess it's a DJ group fleet man would I don't know what you call them. But they they do like you know fucking dance. Wait, this isn't a joke, this is really true.

It's like, for Ford. No, no, yeah, Fleet Mac would. They do like, they're like a touring act. They do like shows and shit where it'll be like an hour or two hours. And they're like, they're all like beats that are made up of like, cut up and mixed up Fleetwood Mac songs. Like, it kind of, it fucking slaps. I find yourself a Fleet Mac would and listen to it.

Wait, I am not exaggerating joking. Hyperbole, I will be listening to that as soon as we're done. Oh, you're gonna like it a lot. It fucking it's some of the best stuff. I do it for writing a lot. It's good to work out too. Oh yeah. Good to do yard work too.

Yeah, good to make love and fun with all that good stuff, all that good stuff, in case you're out mac and yeah. So anyway, do do do looking out my front door at these Elon Musk, at this Elon Musk ship. So we such to the CCR. Yeah, you know what, this episode, it's all creamy. Oh God. Not a, not a fan, Cody. That's fine. How do you feel about the Eagles? How do you feel about what? The Eagles? I think I think a CCR is fine. I mean I've never heard of a more fortunate son than Elon Musk. Oh There we go. We're in business now, baby. Hell yeah, there we go

Perfect so When we left off our hero had Decided to prevent Twitter from paying its janitors for work that they had already provided after or before being fired. Again, potentially a crime. In essence, it quickly became clear to Killian, who's the person who replaced the last person whose job it was to pay for rent and stuff, that Musk's intended method of operation was to obtain services from vendors without any intention of keeping the agreements or paying for services requested and received.

Killian's concern that Musk truly intended to apply this approach to Twitter's rent obligations was confirmed the last time on December 9th, 2022 when Mendoza's specifically informed Killian that Musk had decided Twitter would no longer be paying rent globally. Globally! Yeah, and again, Mendoza is one of these people for I think the boring company.

It's one of those folks that is one of the people that he brought in to manage stuff who isn't that guy's girlfriend. Very funny. Living in the office with their infant. Awesome. Maybe in charge of it. I'm just like, where are they putting it?

Is the biggest crib like a desk drawer and they're sleeping on the pole out of the shower? It has to have been, right? It has to have been, right? I spent a lot of time in and around like the California Medical Marijuana industry, which is a pretty sketchy business, but like the working standards at Twitter sound a lot worse. Absolutely. Good stuff.

Yeah. So, killing it. Yeah, yeah, there was free weed for people. Usually when somebody got murdered, you didn't know them very well. You know, a lot of benefits of that over Twitter. So in, yeah, Killian was like, I tried to convince Musk via his lieutenant Mendoza that like, they were putting the company in tremendous jeopardy and that they wouldn't be able to renegotiate any of their leases if they defaulted on rent, which makes sense. Mendoza in response tells him that Muska decided Twitter would only pay rent over his dead body.

Hey, go right. Oh, this next part is perfect. Hey, go right. Cody, I gotta read this to you guys. Mendoza conveyed that must have made that statement during a 4 a.m. conversation that day. I just have to say, have you ever heard somebody actually use that expression?

It's very hack. Like over my dead body. No. That's not a thing people actually saw. Well, it's not a creative man. No, only when people are being silly, right? Like if somebody's joking around. I haven't a laugh.

You might say that, but no. Yeah, I haven't a laugh. It's like saying, I'm putting my foot down, where it's like, what does that even mean? Yeah. That doesn't, that's not how you, anyway, whatever. Yeah, I've said that, I've said like, I'm putting my foot down over like, somebody wants to eat at Wendy's on a road trip, and I want Pope that, I've said like I'm putting my foot down over like somebody wants to eat

at Wendy's on a road trip and I want Popeyes, you know, but like anyway, whatever, Elon. So fundamentally unserious man. Musk's instructions to simply ignore Twitter's contractual obligations and force Kylian to breach contracts and destroy relationships. He had spent more than a decade building would have been more than enough to render it impossible for Killian, or any reasonable employee to remain employed at Twitter. But that was not the only issue. Musk was also making clear that his reckless disregard included disregard for both the law

and for the lives and safety of his colleagues and employees. For example, Davis told Killian that Musk wanted to add a bathroom next to his office, so Musk didn't have to wake his security team and cross half the floor to use the bathroom in the middle of the night. Killian explained that it would take time to get the necessary permits, but promised to begin that process right away. In response, Davis instructed Killian not to bother with obtaining permits, because, to paraphrase, we don't do that.

We don't have to follow those rules. Shocked, Killian reminded Davis that if they did not get a permit, no licensed plumber would perform the work for fear of jeopardizing their license. Davis responded by instructing Killian to hire an unlicensed plumber instead. Just go find an illegal plumber for Elon Musk's crime bathroom. Look up, run a dude on you, man.

Who fucking care? It's also, what an unserious silly coward of a man who like, I can't go to the bathroom in my own company offices at night without waking up a security team. Like, I won't cross the floor to go take a shit without armed minute my back. Like, I'm sorry, Elon, you're not in that much danger at the fucking Twitter offices.

Oh, wait, it was because he didn't like, wait, I thought it was like, Well, the excuse was that he doesn't want to wake up as security team anyway. Well, so I'm, I guess I'm confused about which stupid thing he's doing. So like, is it, he doesn't want to wake them up because like, oh, they're like sleeping on my floor

because I'm a maniac and like, I need them there. Yeah, that's what's happening. Well, I don't want to go down the hall. Because if I go down the hall, I have to wake them up so that they follow me because they're my security. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's saying that he doesn't want to have to get them up to follow him across the floor to the bathroom.

You don't, you're not, just go to the bathroom man. You're fine. Like they're sweeps, they're not gonna murder. If you hear, if you hear, they don't have that on them. They're not going to murder. Well, if you hear if you hear of that in them, peeing down the hall, those are technically assassination coordinates, right? Right. Well, yeah, you can, you can OOS in your way to fucking launching a drone at him. Very funny too, that he's like, it's dangerous to have a bathroom put in a place without,

you know, going through the process to make sure it's safe to put a bathroom there. Like there's a bunch of infrastructure, a bathroom needs that you can't necessarily put everywhere. And the answer is like, well, put higher in a legal plumber for the bosses bathroom. Fundamental disconnection from reality or even an understanding of basic construction or how things work. Well, and just this idea that like, I don't need to abide by the rules. Well, it's like, in this case, seal on the rules are there because like,

not every space can be ran. Right, it's not like some like, oh, random like red tape. Oh, no, we gotta do this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,, but yeah, maybe like the floor underneath that bathroom isn't rated to or maybe you'd have to like cut, you know, one of those beams that you're not supposed to cut. Right. It seems like you're going to like fit in the plumbing and stuff. More important to follow that kind of stuff in like an office building.

But, yes. Look, I know, I know. Thank you. Yeah, I know a lot of people who have done their own electrician work and projects and 0% of them should have done that, but very few of those people would have brought in an unlicensed plumber to put a bathroom in some random part of a house because it's just a different risk matrix, you know. It's not smart when you're talking about, especially like it's one thing if it's like

a fucking trailer, like that's a single level, like when you're like about, especially like it's one thing if it's like a fucking trailer, like that's a single level, like when you're like, I don't know, 10 floors up or whatever, just the risks compound. Right, isn't that I think? Like, obviously like it's your house, like if you got to do it, it might be a disaster, but like it's a multi-level building.

What are you doing, man? You're kind of, Yeah. Other people's lives are affected by your... Well, those are matters. Yeah. Now, and I do want to note, folks, if you are looking at doing your own electrical work for a home project, go to Amazon.com and look up Coolzones Media, Coolzones Media's

Home Electricians Guide. It's six pages long, it's everything you need to know about doing electrical work. You'll be as skilled as a licensed journeyman electrician if you read this book. It includes such bangers as you don't need to wear gloves and metal conducts electricity. So wear a tin foil hat. All great stuff keeps you safe. You know, keeps you healthy. Makes for the good advice. Yeah, Sophie said I shouldn't start a side business teaching people how to do electricity. I just don't think it's a good decision.

Yeah, you are pretty busy. Well, I think it's a great use of my time because people need to be liberated. Sounds like it all checks out. So good job. Yeah, safety, safety, spend your time doing something that makes you happy. I, Sophie, I love convincing people to electrocute themselves. That's that's easily like my, my, my passion. Ah, ooh.

I mean, safely, safely. I mean, to do things safely. Safely, yes, health and safety. So now thoroughly be wildered. Kill he had attempted to explain that the use of unlicensed trades people was a condition of their lease and that failure to abide by it would put them in breach of that lease. Davis responded that management did not care about any of this, that they

weren't interested in ensuring the work was performed in accordance with the standards required by the lease, by the city of San Francisco, by the state of California or any other authority. They just wanted it done. It got worse. Musk announced to via the transition team that he was going to be installing hotel rooms at Twitter HQ. Killian initially was initially told that the hotel rooms soon renamed to Sleeping rooms to avoid triggering

the suspicions of the city inspectors, were just being installed to give exhausted and overworked employees at place to nap. Though the changes had initially been simple, if unorthodox, removing a conference table and installing a bed, Davis instructed Killian to begin planning for and implementing the addition of features like ensuite bathrooms, in addition to other changes to the physical plant. Concerned about how city inspectors would react to Twitter's plans, Killian emailed the transition team to note that the changes they had made thus far were limited to just furniture, and

therefore were code compliant, but that Twitter's future plan to changes would require permits and more complicated code compliance. In response, Hollander visited him in person, and that's the Steve's girlfriend and emphatically instructed him to never put anything about the project in writing again. That sounds like it's all sounds very expensive. Yeah, could you not write about any of the thing? Well, it's also like they're saying we want to install a bunch of illegal hotel rooms. He writes back why this is not legal and they also like, they're saying, we want to install a bunch of illegal hotel rooms. Don't put in any, and he writes back why this is not legal. And they're like, don't put stuff about this.

They'll write it. And then, she, Hollander appeared surprised and distressed that Kellyanne did not inherently understand that this was not a project for which musk and the transition team wanted a written record. And she was particularly angry

that he had sent an email about it, which is, yeah, it's that people just don't understand. Honestly, the whole situation, he's like, it sounds like a real bad moon rising. I had to throw a one in here. If we're still doing it, that was good. I mean, I guess we are because you just did it. Or I, sorry. Yeah. guess we are because you just did it. Or I'm sorry. Yeah. Is that it? That's not.

If there's a one that there's not that, they're just aren't that many that we all know. Mm-hmm. No, I, uh, I, I, I, I agreed. So what's a save money? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm trying to do. By doing all this projects. So people don't have to leave.

Right, but I'm just saying, this whole thing was about saving money and firing people and all these hoops. There's just a massive amount of wasted money thrown at these projects at these ideas. Yeah. Or in theory. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it does seem like a huge, a huge waste of money. Or at least, you know, I heard that through the grapevine. Oh, yeah, there we go. Katie, here we go.

There we go. How you doing there, Cody? I'm happy with this. Chugging the long direction that the series does. Or I guess I'm gonna keep on chuglin. Okay, there we go. That's definitely a credence song. On board now.

It's a lot, it's a lot easier to do this if you just make up. When the city inspectors came to inspect the hotel rooms, they expressed surprise and relief to Killian saying, this is just furniture. We expected more drastic changes. As instructed by the transition team, Killian did not tell the inspectors of the future plans to expand the changes to the sleeping rooms. But he realized with growing unease

that his silence was effectively a lie of omission and one that would be undeniable and obvious once the plan changes had been completed in the near future. Killian began to understand that his loyalty to Twitter and his desire to protect the company he loved from Musk in the transition team was going to be increasingly challenged by his employer's expectation that he would lie defraud and even break the law at Musk's direction. Killian was soon instructed to circumvent the landlord's lighting control system, which

was most insensitive and compliance with California's Title 24 Energy Code, because the lights were bothering people living in the hotel rooms when their small movements at night would trigger the lights were bothering people living in the hotel rooms when there's small movements at night would trigger the lights. So he submitted a request to this for the landlord and the landlord said no because he's this is a requirement because it's not a living area. It's an office. Yeah When the landlord denied Twitter's request, Kylene was instructed to disconnect the lighting himself which was not safe and which he was not qualified to do. So Musk did ask him to do electrical work

without any sort of training or knowledge. That's the good stuff. Yeah, live in the cool zone life. Look, Kelly, and hit us up. I'll give you a half price copy of my guide to home electrical work. You know, teaches you how to put a double tap in your own breaker so you can run an arc welder

in your basement or your living room or your bedroom. Why not welding your bedroom? There's no reason not to. In your shower. You know, mattresses can't catch on fire. Yeah, a shower welder, Cody. If you've never welded it, oh, God, shower welding. Shower beer and a shower welder.

That's a good afternoon. A water bed in every office. Freight wire. And a welder next to every water bed. This is called that stuff. This is the midnight special. Okay, go ahead. Just if, yeah, no, yeah.

That is, they are asking him to do the midnight special. They are asking to the midnight special. I find this obviously it's very funny, but so he's cutting all these corners and do it like you just like all the fraud and the lying and the bucking regulation for like, you know, legitimate safety like concerns and stuff like that. He also owns like a car company and like, built rockets and stuff. And it feels like maybe this is an indication

that that kind of approach and culture might be a part of these other companies where things and like safety are even more of a concern. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. even more of a concern. And have been a problem. You would expect a problem and maybe they're hiding information that they're doing this at these other companies too.

Yeah, you would expect this to cause like a serious problem for his other companies like this kind of attitude towards safety that's been really demonstrated at Twitter. You'd expect this to have caused him a problem like someday, but someday never comes to another. God. God. Oh,

see that body is feeling blue. Mm. Mm. Yeah, that's the good stuff. That's the good stuff. John go. Oh, let me. Okay. Okay. Uh, I, so yeah, Killian. No, no, no, no. So a Killian objects to doing electrical work that he does not know how to do.

And this Steve's girlfriend, berates him for refusing to do the work himself. She was not satisfied until he brought her in and had her look into the drop ceiling and see what the electrical system looked like to understand that he could not safely do the work himself. And to be like, look at this, what do you, what do you expect me to do? I'm like a building manager. I'm not supposed to be doing this. I like that poor woman. Like, ostensibly, he's just a guy. Like, yeah, he's just to dude. He's like, I don't know how to do.

Look, this is dangerous. If I start messing around here, we're all gonna be on the graveyard. It's another creep zone. Hey, man, as long as I can see the light. That's another one. Oh, what a good bid. I just not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy.

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I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. A written song. Yeah. Yeah. God between Iraq and a hard place, Kelly and hired an electrician to disconnect these rooms independently, putting Twitter in a violation of both the building code and their lease. It got worse. They are writing this with a little bit of like, you know, yeah, yeah, they, if they didn't do the killing, was they all that stuff would be a lot more enjoyable.

But I haven't heard of it. I haven't heard of it. Yeah, I haven't heard of it. Yeah. You're right. You're right. They have been avoiding that lately. Maybe they got a copy editor for like last quarter of this. Yeah.

That's where you want the extra polish. You bother people to beginning and then slowly like, oh, wait, I don't hate this anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how you draw in readers by irritating them. That's every writer's trick about.

That's why the stand, the stand just opens with Stephen King talking about his taxes for 1968, really laying out his deductions. Then they get into that plague, you know, once he's got ya. Okay, this actually, this next part's pretty fucking egregious. Kylian was instructed to install space heaters

in the hotel rooms and further violation of Twitter's lease. Killian was also instructed to place locks on the hotel room doors. A request that thus betrayed the lie that they were intended to be temporary rest spaces for exhausted tweaks. Ah, yeah! California code required locks that automatically disengage when the building's fire suppression systems are triggered. Killian was repeatedly told that compliant locks were too expensive and instructed to immediately install cheaper locks that were not compliant with life safety and egress code. So, along with like if you have a lock on the door in an office building,

it has to auto disengage if the fire suppression system. Yeah. Otherwise, you are trapping people in a room when there's a fire. That's a in the fire. They're locked in. That's a problem. Yeah, you don't want to do that. So that's, this man, he has the tunnel boring company and the car company, and they're making these tunnels, and it's just like this theme of being stuck in a fire

is, seems to permeate through all of his endeavors, and I think it's alarming. Yeah, it does seem like the government, you know, something should happen here. Otherwise, all of these Twitter employees are going to go up like an effigy. It's another credence. Is that one? Fucking figures. It's all a real. Not the credence. Yeah, fucking figures. It's all a real run through the jungle.

It's a real run through the jungle. That's right, K. So, um, yeah, Killy and his like, I, we, here's the locks that will not burn our employees alive and Musk's people are like, now it's too expensive to have locks that don't endanger their lives.

Go with the cheap ones that endanger their lives. Killing and protested, no licensed tradespeople would perform work that violated the building code. Killing and protested that installing these locks would put lives at risk, that in case of an earthquake or fire, which was made dramatically more likely by the non-compliant electrical work

in the presence of the space seat, or has he been instructed to install? Install, these locks would remain locked, blocking first responders for being able to access the rooms and the tweets within. Oh, damn it. Nobody cared is the next line. Nobody cared.

Nobody cared. Yeah. I believe in having lots of laughs with our bits this episode last night. Now you're feeling blue. Got it. Great. Good job. You're back on the board, Cody.

Back on the board. I treat this man so fucking much. Yeah, he's a monster. Yeah, yeah, fucking monster. It's gross. How do you even sleep at night? He really, he really sucks. I don't worry.

I have to kind of bring him down. I want to couch by a Freyred wire. Like what it like. Yeah. That's how I go. I'm also a creed inside. Yeah. I have how I go. I'm also creating. Yeah. I have to get my friend wire again. Oh, good stuff. But you know what you were you were talking about how much you hate this guy.

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Mm-mm, yeah. Okay, we're back. So, between the demands that he effectively participate in theft and fraud and instructions to take actions and violations of California law that would put his colleagues' lives at risk, thank God they don't put sweeps there. He had to walk away from the job. So, Killian Quetz resigns December 10, 2022. And that brings us to part F allegations relating to piercing the corporate veil. All right, they're getting a little bit showy with the language here.

And I just want to acknowledge that, but it's fine. You have your privilege. It does make it fun. It makes it easier for us podcasters. So I am grateful. There is such a unity of interest in ownership between Twitter and Musk that Twitter's separate corporate status

no longer exists. That's fair. Musk through X Holdings won now owns more than 50% of Twitter. He dominates Twitter's decision-making and operations. For instance, Musk changes Twitter's policy by conducting polls from his Twitter account. Right, yep. Yeah, they're talking about how he brought back a bunch of Nazis, including Paul Fucking

Neelan, who threatens to throons of mind with murders. That's good stuff. Yeah, he just got back on. So we're happy with that. On information and belief, Musk has comengled his other assets with Twitter, bringing engineers and executives from as other companies, such as Tesla and SpaceX and the boring company, to provide services for Twitter.

On information belief, those engineers and executives have not been separately hired, retained or paid by Twitter for any services they have provided a Musk at Twitter. Moreover, Musk has repeatedly asserted that Twitter is on the edge of insolvency and may declare bankruptcy. On information and belief, any such bankruptcy would be the result of the debt Twitter incurred as part of financing musk's purchase of Twitter in the first entrance. Instance on information and belief Twitter is under capital I specifically as

a result of musk's purchase of the corporation. Yeah, so, as such, applying to California law plaintiffs are entitled to an order holding musk personally liable for any amounts. Oh, so that's what they're building towards here is they think they want to personally like hold Musk himself liable for the money that he didn't pay these people. Which is fun. I doubt. Somehow I doubt I'll never have to pay any money to anyone. Yeah, I was just get away with not doing that except for paying his lawyers

presumably. I wasn't born on the by you I know all this player story plays out. Yeah, there we go. There we go. You're down nice nice work. I'm the band down on the corner Down the corner up around the band should down on the court down on the corner out on the street I was up around the band is another is a different song. I was doing it. I was doing it around the band is another one Yeah, okay anyway, you're knocking him out while you're in a more brief than I expected. Fucking over with Cody. With. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. So, let's see here. Plaintiffs are entitled to an award of damages in an amount to be calculated at trial, but reasonably believed to exceed $1 million. Plus, plus pre and post judgment, interest costs, attorneys, fees, and penalties is authorized by the state, which is honestly like as much of a big deal as they're making here.

I was gonna say that. I don't want money for you. Did you say $1 million? Yeah, $1 million. I mean, it's just kind of like all they can really ask for is the severance they were owed and the, you know, there's some amount of compensatory damages, but it's not going to be a huge amount. My guess, just based on how much, like, how floored a lot of this lawsuit is, is that they were, they are primarily hoping to hurt him.

Yeah, it's a PR thing by putting this stuff out here. Yeah. And like, yeah, if he does, you know, a million dollars is like, I guess it's not nothing to him because he needs that money is he lose a lot of money Yeah, at this point maybe he doesn't need it Yeah, sort of a symbolic thing and then yeah to sort of ding him and the public eye Mostly. Yeah So this next bit is they're talking about violations of the cal- the federal and the California warne act

Yeah, that this means that Twitter is required to give plaintiffs 60 days advance written notice of their terminations. And yeah, obviously, they're alleging that Twitter did not abide by the war act. They're also required to provide plaintiffs with full benefits during their non-working leave, which is like what they gave people who weren't willing to sign the thing, saying they would like work themselves half to death and go into hardcore in Sano mode. So yeah, the Twitter violated a bunch of California employment law, right?

So that's this next section here. Plaintiff Arnold was employed at Twitter's San Francisco California office, Plaintiff Pylarts, worked remotely from her home and was assigned and reported to Twitter San Francisco office. As such, for Warren Act purposes, her single side of employment is the San Francisco Office, and she is entitled to the protections of the California Warren Act.

Another plaintiff was employed by Twitter San Francisco Office until COVID, and then thereafter worked remotely from his home and was assigned and reported to the San Francisco Office. So you've got all these employees that should have been covered under the Warren Act. Twitter did not advise them that they had been at place on non-working leave during this period. Instead, they merely cut off access to Twitter's internal systems

until they stopped paying him. So they don't tell people they've been laid off. They just stopped giving them money and wait for them to figure it out themselves, which is what happened to that company founder that Twitter had acquired prior to Musk taking over who stopped getting money. Yeah, that guy in like Iceland.

Yeah, yeah, it was like a big problem for him because he can't actually fire that guy. Yeah, they fought with him, but then was like, oh, and that was like every once in a while who like tweets at him like, we're friends, right? Yeah, God, it is, that's so fucked up to just be like, yeah, we're just going to stop paying these people, but we'll have them keep working for a while without knowing that they don't work here anymore. Cool guy. Just a good good stuff. Yeah. Yeah, so it seems like a bunch of these are just like people who are required to be provided with notice before being let go and aren't provided with any kind of notice. So that's cool. Yeah, let's see.

This next bit is violations of the California labor code. Apparently, the state itself has not yet given notice that it will or will not investigate a bunch of the identified violations here. Sure would be cool if they did. Kind of seems like everybody scared of Elon. And yeah, it would be neat to, I don't know, see very basic consequences applied to this guy. Fair bones. Yeah. Yeah. Twitter violated section 227.3 of the California label code by failing to provide eligible employees with their accrued vacation pay at termination.

That's great. This goes with them not like paying severance and stuff. The Twitter purported to provide employees with unlimited time off and some employees actually received unlimited time off. Vacations required manager approval and many employees were subjected to manager-employed caps on theoretically unlimited vacation time. Boy, where have we heard all that before? Some managers instructed their employees,

they supervised to limit their vacations to one week per quarter. Other managers refused to approve more than four weeks per year. Other managers instructed and police, now this sounds like Twittered Bastardy that is well outside of Elon Musk. Like this is the standard,

like that's why companies do this kind of shit. Like you have unlimited vacation days, but we have to approve them. So actually, you have very limited vacation days, but we don't have to pay you if we shit can you at any point in time. Good stuff. Good stuff. Yeah, I love that. It's one of those, I remember when we got unlimited vacation days, and I was like, this

is at our old employer. And being like, oh, that sounds kind of cool. But also, we don't take time off anyway. Like everyone here is a work monster. And it kind of just seems like you're cutting out the fact that we have to be paid for vacation days. If you ever lay us off. Oh, I guess we all got fucked. And we did. We did get fucked in that, which was cool. Yeah, good stuff. Yeah, yeah, that's a real unfortunate. I was going to say it's a real ramble, Campbell. Yeah. Another one, huh? Okay. So this last bit is talking about California family rights

interference. So basically, you know, there's a bunch of rules as to like how you have to deal with like people who have kids that are on like your insurance and all this kind of stuff. People get like, Lee must famously want to have a kid. People have babies and families. Yeah. Yeah. But not people have babies and families. Yeah. But not the people that work for her. Yeah, really need to hit that home before getting into this section. Yeah, yeah. Like he's, he's spent so much time talking about how like the biggest threat to the world

is that people aren't having enough kids that like birth rates are down. It's like, I mean, it's a pretty common, like, yeah, in August of 2022. So right before all this happens, he warns, quote, population collapse due to low birth rates is a bigger risk to civilization than global warming. Yeah, which is definitely not true. Yeah, and definitely silly, but also, like, I don't know, Elon, if you believe that should you not be encouraging people to be able to afford to have kids and take the time out to raise them?

Right, maybe do something other than just have a bunch of kids yourself. Right. Well, and I also think what Elon cares about is people having kids. He doesn't care about them raising them because he doesn't raise his own children. Yeah. He also cares about certain things. I guess that's consistent, you know? Yes, certainly.

Well, we could have the right people having kids. Those are not allegations made by the Tweeps Cody. So we'll have to say that for the end. Yeah. Don't shovel words into the tweets. Sorry. Tweep holes. Cody. Sorry. God.

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to work at an office that had a room full of deadly poison. Yeah, you do. We did. Mm-hmm. And a dog in the ceiling too. We did. It sure did have a dog on the ceiling. Those were the days of our lives,

like sand through the hourglass. That was a reference to a soap opera that my mom watched when I was a small child. Oh boy, we're really, really hitting it out of the park this week. Look, you know, after 50,000 or so, I'm low on fuel. Yeah. Ramblin' man. Yeah, the old ramblin' man.

Ramblin' man, that's one of theirs, right? Probably not. Anyway, California law, bars Twitter from discriminating on the basis of race, sex, gender, family, status, disability, age, and other grounds. Pylarts is a woman. That's one of the plaintiffs over the age of 40, Arnold is bisexual and over the age of 40. The actions of Twitter took to lay off her fire. its employees were discriminatory. As discussed above, Twitter manufactured pre-textural reasons to terminate employees in large numbers. On information and belief, Twitter's actual decision-making as to whom to include in

the mass terminations targeted women, older employees, minorities, and employees who had taken or scheduled family leave. Twitter retained employees who were not members of protected groups who had lower performance or seniority or with less qualifications than pilots. Twitter retained employees who were not members of protected groups who had lower performance or seniority or with less qualifications than Arnold. Twitter's conduct in the mass terminations was oppressive, fraudulent and malicious. On information and belief, Twitter's offices, directors, or managing agents, including defendant Musk, authorized and ratified this conduct, and engaged in such oppressive, fraudulent, or malicious conduct

themselves. The decision of which employees to include in the mass layoff was made from Twitter's California headquarters. Pylarts' sex, female, was a substantial factor in motivating Twitter's decision to terminate Pylarts. Pylarts' age, over 40, was a substantial factor in motivating Twitter's decision to terminate Pylarts. Arnold's sexual orientation bisexual was it so yeah in motivating Twitter's decision to terminate pilots. Arnold's sexual orientation bisexual was it,

so yeah, I mean, these are all, they're saying substantial factors and why they were terminated. I don't have trouble believing that, given kind of the quality of people that I think Musk was bringing in here. I do, I will say, I do kind of wonder if they might be crediting,

they're being more planning in the layoffs, but, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. if they might be crediting, they're being more planning in the layoffs. But I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if Musk didn't even put enough thought into this to be big in it with the two. Right, right. I don't know. Yeah.

Hard to say. So that's the lawsuit. That's what these guys have put together. Guys and ladies and other folks have put together and I don't know for any sweeps. Tweeps, that's this is what the sweeps have said. I hope they win. I don't hold out a lot of faith that must will be made to pay any money, but I at least hope it causes some proper. Yeah. Eventually, Twitter will be lying in a tombstone shadow. Nice.

Cody, that was beautiful. That was really good. That was a really way to bring this home. Yeah. Thank you so much. Yeah, that was gorgeous. Well, you can back, I'm gonna say that I'm proud Mary of you. Wow.

And I'm gonna say that you're a gold dust wallet. Yeah, Apple Circle. I just really think like we didn't get enough. Yay. Get enough out of that one. Yeah. Good times, good times. Well everyone, that's kind of a shorter week for us here at behind the bastards, but

what are you going to do? Huh? What are you going to do about it? He's about to fight me. You don't know where I am. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He doesn't do it.

Maybe on a slower speed. Yeah. Half the speed in here, you know. Why don't you guys just be happy that you have a bunch of songs stuck in your head now and go listen to some Macwood Fleet. What was it again? Fleet Macwood.

Fleet Macwood, like I am. Yeah, listen to some Fleet Macwood. Listen to what's coming up next, which is Cody reading the entirety of the Book of Mormon with no commentary. Thank you for agreeing to do that, Cody. Happy to really appreciate it. Yeah, and anyway, that's gonna do it

for us behind the bastards. Katie and Cody, you got any plugs before Cody gets into reading his favorite religious text. with Russifying the bastards. Katie and Cody, you got any plugs before Cody gets into reading his favorite religious text? Absolutely. We got a YouTube channel called Some More News, and it's also a podcast called Some More News. That's so cool.

Along with our other podcast called Even More News. They're in the same feed, regardless, just Google us and you'll find the things. We'll be there on the internet places. Excellent. And I gotta say, we do talk about Elon Musk a lot. So if you like this. Oh yeah.

Although we do, we have a limited it because we're like so tired of it. I just met in general if you want to. Yeah. We got some stuff we go into. We're not broke. His history is his practices. And yeah, his mind is, uh, yeah, I, I found, I found a copy of the, of the book of Mormon

online before you. Okay. Oh, I've got several tears. So I don't need help. I prefer. Oh, good. Okay. You keep a look.

Oh, we really did find it. Yeah. No, of course. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's interesting because it opens with Niha, Ni-Fi, having been born of goodly parents. Therefore, I was taught somewhat

in all the learning of my father. Much like Elon learned from his father, how to treat people poorly, like a dick. So, I don't know. Is Elon the prophesied one from the Book of Mormon? Probably not. I don't think there is a prophesied one, but I don't know much about the book of Mormon. Is he a pagan baby? Nice. Ah Cody

That was a good one. That's a hard credence song to work into this episode. I'm been waiting. I'm proud of you. Oh Pagan baby Incredible incredible work. Well, this has been a special week for fans of Credence and of Fleetwood Mac. And also for fans of Fleet Mac wood. So you are all welcome. Everyone else can go to Hell and Die. And if you want to add free versions of our podcasts,

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