Behind the Bastards - Part Two: John McAfee Is Not Funny Anymore

Episode Date: February 14, 2019

Robert is joined again by Laci Mosley to continue discussing John McAfee.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jay Mac. All right, it just gets worse. Yeah, we ended on drugging and raping a woman. Ooh. So... I'm weak. Not a lot else for it to go, but down. It was a laugh of awkwardness.

What a bad dude. It's going to keep going down. So, I forget when I first became aware of John McAfee. It might have been 2011 when I first read the Wired article that I quoted from earlier. I remember being endlessly amused that the guy behind the world's most irritating antivirus program was a ridiculous madman, often venting drugs in the jungle or something. That was neat. We all use McAfee antivirus and knowing that this shitty program that we all hate, like the guy who made a stameniac out in the jungle, I hadn't heard about the rape or anything yet. No.

It was in 2016, so I was a fan of John McAfee for a while. Right. When we started the story, I was like, oh, yeah, what a great scammer. Started up, you know, just like most scammers do. And then, yeah, it took a real turn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a bad guy. McAfee abandoned his jungle compound shortly after the Belizean government raided him, and of course he assaulted Dr. Adonizio,

at least allegedly assaulted. And he moved back to his beach house on Ambergris Cave full-time with an ever-expanding cast of young women. He gave each of them their own bungalow, called them his girlfriends, and according to the girls, he paid them to poop in his mouth through hammocks. Oh, my God. Yeah, I just dropped that one out there. Now, that's gross. Much is.

But their adults, he's paying them. It's whatever. Compared to the rape, it's whatever. I'm not going to judge somebody for having a thing. No, that's a specific, yeah. That's your thing. If they're consenting adults and getting paid, whatever. I'm not going to labor on it too long.

It's kooky, but whatever. But he was the poopy. He was the guy pooping. Oh, no, he was the guy being pooped into. He was the person being pooped into. Yeah, exactly. Okay, okay. Well, I mean, at least he wasn't pooping on people.

At least he wasn't pooping on people, whatever. It's his thing, okay? That part's fine. Now, that fact didn't come out in 2016, and the release of Gringo, a documentary about John McAfee. Accurate title. Yeah, accurate title, and we will be talking about that more in a little bit. But for now, I want to try to stay as chronological as it is possible to be

with a tale of John McAfee. Because of course, he lies about himself constantly. So it was a lot of work on the back end here being like, what's the timeline? What actually happened here? I may have gotten some stuff mixed up timeline-wise. It's probably not perfect, but I think this is as close as you can do. After his jungle misadventures, John McAfee grew more and more paranoid.

Since he couldn't fully trust his guards, he bought a shitload of dogs. Only he didn't do a great job of policing his dogs, and they had a tendency to run around the beach pissing off his ex-pat neighbors. The angriest of these guys was a dude named Greg Fall. Now, Greg owned a sports bar in Orlando, and he lived in Belize for like half the year. It was his chill-out spot. He had a nice beach house. He did some construction in the country itself, and you know,

it was where he went to relax. I guess that's okay. It's whatever. Belize is like Ohio. Like Ohio of the Caribbean. Well, let's not be that mean to Belize. I like it. Trash. You are being really hard on Belize for no reason.

It's a very ugly awful place. I do not agree, and people of Belize, I'm defending you, and I think that your ginger wine is delightful. Look, people love Ohio too. People love the bucks, but do you want to build a compound in there? Belize is pretty. I'd build a compound in Belize. Yeah.

Would you? Yeah. I mean, I'd prefer to build a compound in Guatemala, because they got better mountains, but like Belize has some cool stuff. It's a nice place. They have cashew trees and bugs. You would just, I really hate that. There's bugs everywhere.

We come from Texas. You're talking about bugs. There's mountains of crickets out there. Yeah, but crickets ain't doing nothing. And crickets give you a nice sound track to your life. You know what I mean? Some ASMR for your sleep. Like they ain't biting the shit out of you.

Guys, don't go. I was eating pizza in Guatemala with a friend once, and he like grabs the back of his neck and like pulls his hand away, and there's like a big weird-looking caterpillar in it, and he like throws it down, and then suddenly his whole back bursts out and boils. Like it's just like fucking wounds all over his back. Does this thing even crawl it up him?

And like the lady who ran the pizza joint was like, oh yeah, those will do that. You don't want to get those on you. This is so nonchalant. Yeah, they'll do that. Yeah, they'll do that. Yeah, yeah, you gon' die in about 30 minutes, so you might want to.

It was fine, but. Ugh. And you said that was in Belize? That was in Guatemala, but it was in Guatemala close to Belize. No, I know where you said it was. I was just trying to throw more shade on Belize. No, no, I'm not going to throw shade on Belize.

This is a pro-Belize podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's an anti-Macafe podcast. So this guy who vacations from Orlando. Yeah, this dude, this like white ex-pat dude, he gets really angry at John for having a bunch of uncontrollable dogs, right? Now, it's really hard to tell what happened.

In the documentary Gringo, most of the people that Nanette Bernstein talks to think that Greg Fall poisoned John McAfee's dogs. Other people have definitely suspected that. John McAfee himself says that he doesn't think Fall poisoned his dogs, that he doesn't think he would do that, but. But somebody poisoned it out.

Well, I don't know. The dogs got sick and McAfee shot them all and was apparently furious about it because they were sick. And if they were really poisoned, that's what you do to spare the dogs the pain. It was a bad poison or something like that. I don't, I can't know.

Greg Fall on November 12th, 2012, was found dead from a gunshot wound to the head in his house. And of course, a lot of people suspected, oh, McAfee hired someone to kill Greg Fall because Greg poisoned his dogs. Really, I don't know what happened. I don't know if his dogs were poisoned. I don't know if John McAfee's just a goddamn lunatic

and he thought his dogs were poisoned and he shot them. That seems laggable. It's all possible. But Greg Fall wound up dead and John McAfee was considered the obvious suspect and is still the obvious suspect, although. But no one did anything about it. I guess he was the law at this point.

He showed up and decided he was the law. Things were done. He was not the job in Ambergris K. This was like a part of like Belize that's like really well developed in this story. So like there's law there. So he's not back in the jungle anymore. He's not back in the jungle anymore.

And even back in the jungle, he got raided by the government. True shit, true shit. So John McAfee, like the police start coming after him to question him about this guy who gets murdered and everyone's saying it was probably John. So he hid from the police first by burying himself in sand.

What? Yes, because. How long was he trying to hide? Like a whole day. Clay was he buried himself? He was like all I need is a straw. He used a box. I'll breathe air through that.

This guy is a fucking nut. He has millions of dollars. The sand is your first choice, ma'am. The sand is where you start. Okay. Okay. Okay, John. Never find me here.

So the fallout from this sparked the drama that most people associate with John McAfee. He was a major story for several days as the Belizean government searched for him and he live-blogged his evasion of authorities. So. He live-blogged his evasion. He live-blogged himself hiding from the law

as he, you know, Belizean cops are searching for him and he's staying in safe houses and all this stuff, wearing disguises, which are always bad. He's on an iPhone like, what's up guys? It's your boy John. No, he's typing, I guess, in a laptop.

He does meet with journalists during this time and like one thing all the journalists search for certain about is that like he's always in disguise and he always thinks the disguise is good and the disguise is always terrible. Like it's just a blonde wig on a guy who's clearly John McAfee. They're just like,

one of them like wrote about like pretending to be tricked by the disguise because he didn't want like, he figured John wouldn't talk to him if he like- You're the reporters, you gotta come up and be like, oh where's John McAfee? Where is John? So good at hiding. Oh, I gotta talk to you.

Oh, the wig. Oh my God. I never would have- I thought you were blonde, John McAfee. I'm sorry. Okay. So he in these surprisingly regular updates that he posted on his blog while he was hiding out

from the law. He got Wi-Fi like- Yeah, I mean, Belize is like a country and stuff. Well, yeah, but I'm like, so he's plugged in so Belize was not really looking for him is what I'm gathering. They don't have the kind of resources that we do.

Like they don't have a DNA testing lab or anything like that. So I don't think like the Belize in law enforcement had the ability to like get that in 2012 to like be tapping the internet. They couldn't even tap like his phone, yeah. They might have been able to do that, but like it's pretty easy to get a burner phone

in a place like that. True shit, very true. This is hiding out like SpongeBob covered himself in sand. Covered himself in sand? Live blogging. Okay, great. And live blogging. He started claiming that the reason the Belizean

government was after him was not the murder of Greg Fall, but the fact that he had hacked their government and uncovered evidence of some vague, massive corruption possibly tied to the supposed giant drug ring that he believed was centered in Carmelita. So he frequently claimed to have tens of thousands of words and gigabytes of data, videos, and pictures and audio recordings all proving this, you know,

corruption in the government of Belize. But he failed to actually produce anything. On one blog post titled The Closing Trap, he wrote this. I had been asked why I don't release everything at once. This is the bane of the modern press. The massive information, not just for my story, but for every story, is too great for an intelligent digestion in the timeframe allotted to a journalist

prior to the publisher's deadline. The press stories will describe what they always describe, a twisted shadow in an ill-lit room, and must control the flow so that the necessary glue of understanding has time to set. Yo, this is like listening to Trump speak, but if Trump had a better understanding of vocabulary in words.

Yeah, he had gone to school. Right, it's still Vegas fuck, and I don't know what he said, but it sounded good at least. Sounds better, twisted shadow in an ill-lit room. Right, then huge and very, very. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think Trump knows the word ill. So, McAfee and his much shrunken entourage made their way into Guatemala, like snuck through Belize

and made their way into Guatemala without alerting the authorities of either country. Having spent, again, considerable time in Guatemala, I can assure you that it is not hard to sneak into or out of the country. Is it even sneaking? Like we walked in. Sometimes you pay the border guard some cash,

they didn't even ask for a lot, honestly. It's really, it's rough out there. They're having trouble. You help them out when you can. Right, they're like, what do you have on you? Sometimes you bribe the cops without them even asking just because you're like, you know, you look like you're having a rough day.

You don't even have to, you didn't even do any crimes. You're like, hey, for later. For later. Okay, so John's story had people interested, obviously, and where there's a viral story of a mad millionaire fleeing justice, there will be journalists. A crew from Vice managed to find John McAfee and spent four days filming his flight.

I'm sure that was hard. Just look for the guy in the blonde wig. Just look for the guy in the blonde wig. Pretty easy. That's probably John McAfee. Now, this is fine from a journalistic point of view, potentially even the start of a really great story. It's certainly a documentary I would be interested in seeing,

but someone at Vice made a spectacularly poor decision. On December 3rd, 2012, they published an article titled, We Are With John McAfee Right Now, Suckers. What? Yeah. The article included a photo of John McAfee next to an extremely uncomfortable looking Vice editor. It conveyed very little information other than the fact

that Vice had found McAfee and they felt the rest of the world were suckers. Weird flex, bro. Now, Vice soon learned why this is not the sort of thing journalists tend to do, because the person who uploaded the picture to that website failed to remove the geodata from the picture, thus giving away the location of a man fleek from the law. They dropped a pin on my man.

That ain't right. That ain't right. I mean, he's a rapist, so fuck him. Right. That's true, actually. So, good job, Vice. And fuck any journalists who would do that. Find a one to hang out with a criminal and try to sneak across

countries with him. That's a cool story. You don't post about it while you're doing it. See, that's the age of millennials. That was a millennia. We fucked that shit up. That was a millennial move. Like, he was supposed to hold on to this information,

compile an article, release it at a later date. They were like, no. Blow our minds. I want the likes. Yeah. When he gets into America, be like, and Vice was with him the whole time. And then, boom.

Like, oh, that's really cool. Look, I can't wait that long. No, you guys lost any cool cred by giving him up to the cops. This is a story on Twitter like, god damn, with McAfee right now, so crazy. The only thing worse than a narc is an accidental narc. Oh, yeah. It's just, come on, guys.

They made it too easy. Someone just looked up the coordinates. They might as well just took a picture of it to something like really famous in Guatemala. Dropped it. We're going to get this restaurant. Yeah, they've got like one of the pyramids at Tikal or something in the background.

They tagged the restaurant. Yeah, we left the Yelp review. McAfee don't like the chicken here. Bad place to eat with John McAfee. So he got arrested, of course, by the Guatemalan law enforcement. Well, shout out to them for paying attention to articles. I feel like it was one of those things where they were like, well, we have to arrest him now.

I feel like they didn't even find it. Someone sent it to them like, hey, y'all do know he. Oh, shit. All right. All right. So McAfee was arrested, but because he was a rich guy, he was able to quickly hire a famous Guatemalan lawyer. There was a brief worry about him being extradited back to Belize,

but he got around to that by faking a heart attack, which basically kept him in the hospital long enough that his lawyer was able to work some magic and get him deported to America safe and apparently immune from Belize and justice. Yeah. Wow. Hey, man, you just got a fake heart attack.

So he found Guatemala Cochran and just got away with everything. And got away with everything. He didn't have to fake a heart attack. I mean, what do you have to do? Grab your arms? He like hurt himself. He like collapsed and like hit his head and stuff. Like he really put some work into it.

Oh, he sold it. He sold it. He sold it. I'll give him credit. He didn't half ask the fake heart attack. He just gave us the life alert. He's old enough that if he had just given us a, oh, I've fallen down and I can't get up. You know, the lady who's sliding off the bed.

That's enough. That's enough. You're like 68. Right. We believe it. If a 68-year-old grabs their chest at any point, I'm not going to question it. Nobody assumes fake heart attack. Yeah.

You don't have to get a concussion in the process. And again, look at the picture of John McAfee. John McAfee at 69 looked like he'd been eating nothing but crystal meth for 40 years. Yeah. I assume that hearts on its last beat. In any medical conditions, I'm like, yeah, this makes sense. This is plausible.

But you know what McAfee did say earlier in our previous episode? He doesn't do anything half-assed. So if he was going to fake a heart attack, of course he's going to get a concussion. He was going to fake a heart attack. Cool. And if he was going to rape somebody,

he was going to drug him. Oh, God. That's the dark side of it, you know? Why did he have to do that? I know. That's when I learned, I was a fan of his. So we talked about how I got, I am not a libertarian, but he's a big libertarian figure.

And I have some of those impulses. Like, I'm a tall white guy who's been able to get away with a lot. So I understand the impulse of wanting to not have rules and stuff. And like, I just have enough friends. But you don't have rules already. Well, yeah. And I, like, I have enough friends who rely on, you know, Medicare or stuff like that to be like,

oh, no, it's actually really good to have these things. Oh, absolutely. You know, it's fine. Like, but I enjoyed John McAfee's shtick. It's always, like, I thought it was fun, this millionaire nut job thing. It was, it was kooky until I could even, I could even forgive if it was true that, like, this guy had poisoned his dogs.

I can even forgive a murder for that. A murder for the poisoned dogs? That's where I got to slow down now. People over dogs. Well, yeah, people love dogs. That's what I'm saying. Like, if the only bad thing- People over dogs, Sophie.

People over dogs. People over dogs. If I had to choose between you and your dog, wouldn't you want me to choose you? Don't ask Sophie that question. Sophie might actually say no. She's shaking her head, yeah. Yeah, she's saying no.

She's saying, kill me and keep her dog alive. It's a great dog. It is a great dog. Well, I'm not saying it's okay to kill someone over a dog, but I'm saying that, like, if that was the only bad thing he'd done, if someone had poisoned his dogs and in, like, a heat of passion, he'd committed murder, I could be like, that's not okay, but like-

A heat of passion. Well, you could, that could drive someone crazy. That's true. That could, like, I could see someone not being a terrible person. Look, I was on his side after he low-key murdered his own nephew. You were down with the murder of his nephew. I was like, I mean, you know, sometimes a nephew's a casualty of a scam, you know? But yeah, when he assaulted the woman, I had to hop off the ship.

Yeah, yeah. He was a trash human. Yeah, rape is my line, too. But he escaped. He escaped. Yeah, he escaped. All this. And we will talk about what happens next

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We're talking about John McAfee. Now, after he made his way back into the United States, we all laughed advice for their big fuck up and then the world just sort of forgot about John McAfee for a little while. This did not go over well with John McAfee because as you may have started to know, he kind of likes publicity. I think he likes attention. Will you go on a run from the authorities? Are you live blogging?

This is great content. This will be some good content. They're trying to catch me for this murder. You would think he would want to fade into anonymity. So, John McAfee, in order to get himself back into the spotlight a little bit, like two or three months after this guy gets murdered and he's accused of the murder, Greg Fall has been dead for like three months, John McAfee releases a viral YouTube video. How to uninstall McAfee antivirus featuring John McAfee does have a fun premise.

It starts with him in a smoking jacket and like a fake background with a bunch of books behind him and he's like talking about how bad McAfee antivirus is since he sold out his because he didn't have any interest in it. It is a shitty product. So, this is like how Kevin Spacey wanted his YouTube video to go over. Yes. He's wearing like a smoking jacket like young women come in and like fondle him at different points and like kiss him and stuff.

At one point he lights a cigarette with a hundred dollar bill and then he cuts to a stereotypically nerdy looking guy who he says will explain how to delete the software. And the rest of the video cuts between that guy trying to delete the software and John McAfee now half naked wearing a gun surrounded by women and big comical boxes with like bath salts like cereal boxes with bath salts written on the front. And he's just railing bath salts through a silly straw. And every time the video cuts to like that nerdy guy and then back to McAfee there's more guns and more drugs on the table and more women around him.

So they're really enhancing this bit. They're definitely playing to a bit. I'm going to play you a little selection of it so you can get an idea of the tenor of this video. John. Uh huh. Yes. Uh, does that sound about right? Well not completely you know.

I mean it's always there. It's watching. It's been watching me for years. Every time I turn on the fucking computer it's there looking at me. I mean you know something went wrong. Fifteen years ago I had some beautiful software and they took it over. I don't know what they did. It was like the time I hired that Bangkok prostitute to do my taxes while I fucked my accountant.

It was terrible. The same fucking thing is going on now. But I know what to do. I know exactly what to do. Believe me, I've got a fucking solution right here. So. Okay. The graphics in this leave much to be desired.

It was like 2013. Okay. But yeah you know. A lot of diversity in this video. Quite a few black women I guess that's from Living in Belize. Well we'll be getting to that in a little bit Lacy. That is one of the many problematic things about. Yeah.

Yeah. But you can see how someone could just watch that video. God John McAfee. He's a card. Right. He's still definitely on drugs in that video. His whole body is red. His whole body is always red.

His lobster red. Lobster red. He's talking in a cadence that ain't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now nine million people have viewed that video so far. It did very well.

A lot of websites talked about it. Watching casually back then I assumed John McAfee was a fellow who had a sense of humor about himself. Right. Like I know what you guys think. I know what you guys think. I'm doing all the best else. Yeah.

Yeah. Exactly. The attention gradually faded though which prompted McAfee to launch several new schemes in 2016. Now unfortunately for John McAfee and fortunately for Truth. That same year Showtime and director Nanette Bernstein released Gringo the dangerous life of John McAfee. The documentary was packed with shocking allegations.

In addition to Dr. Adonisio's rape allegations it also alleged that members of McAfee's in essence gang had beat a Belizean man to death or beat him so badly that he later died in the hospital and the way it comes across in the documentary is that McAfee became convinced this guy was trying to kill him but he was just some random dude and McAfee was like a paranoid nut job and anyway so there's an additional murder. So now there's Greg Falls murder which the documentary pins on a guy who was kind of part of McAfee's entourage that he probably paid to kill him. We don't really know but everything in like I would say it's plausible it seems really

plausible to me based on what I've seen in the documentary and the evidence presented that he's involved in two murders in addition to the rape. So now the documentary comes out and of course John McAfee can't let that thing just lie. No of course not. Of course not. I'm sure he appreciated the attention though. Well he responded to the documentary alleging that he'd murdered two people and raped a woman the same way he responded to everything else by being a goddamn maniac.

He shot out a rapid fire series of tweets including a picture of a Belizean newspaper with an article titled Money for Lies and of course pictures of John McAfee and several sources of the documentary. John also posted video interviews with some of his Belizean girlfriends essentially making the same claims about the showtime documentary. These girls had been on the documentary and then suddenly they were showing up on YouTube videos claiming that they'd been fed answers and stuff like that. He put up a medium post where he laid out the case against the network and Nanette Bernstein.

That medium article included a video where several young Belizean men basically declared Dr. Edanizio a fraud and a loose woman and said that of course why would she rape she was fucking everybody. That it's really gross. Later reporting by Bernstein had several of these people who filmed you know the people that McAfee had filmed videos for him basically tell her like look we did it because he paid us $1,200 and we're dirt poor it's Belize we don't have much money we needed the cash. I can't say this for certain it is impossible for me to know but I'm going to play an excerpt

from one of these videos and it really does seem like something somebody would do for $1,200 right so well you know I was working here in the property as well from the beginning so I was always around you know so Alison used to stay in our village you know so I lived very close to her next to my aunt so she invited me over and you know we had talks we you know we used to go to club drink and stuff like that I'm for sure man we had a lot of sex and stuff like that. There's several of those they're all like that. Can I just say that this man is in gas station sunglasses and I've never seen somebody's

neck move more in my life if you want to just talk about physical physical attributes of a liar this man straight up if y'all can see this video imagine Stevie Wonder in gas station knock off Oakleys just bobbing and weaving telling us this story yeah he definitely got paid for sure. You can see this video and all the sources for this episode on our website behindthebastards.com if you want to watch a man lie to discredit a rape survivor for $1,200 listen that was a Ted talk and just lies if I please go watch that video because if anybody ever communicates would you like that in your life they're not telling you the truth now McAfee's medium

post also alleged that Bernstein and Showtime paid sources for their interviews which would be a breach of journalistic ethics as proof he included a Western Union receipt for $3,500 from Nanette Bernstein to one of the subjects of the documentary Nanette claims that this money that was paid was in exchange for licensing pictures and video taken by these sources and the documentary has a ton of that it's filled with pictures that these people who were hanging out with John and were sources of the documentary took of them and videos they took because she wasn't able to tape John McAfee and considering how much of that she used yeah I could totally see her paying well over $3,500 for that kind of stuff like

having film documentaries in places like this I didn't pay people for their interviews but I definitely paid people for access to footage you know it's what you do out there and sometimes you pay them thousands of dollars yeah and it is kind of sticky because it is you're paying for the footage but there definitely are implications that could lead people to believe that you're also kicking in for their story it's not the black and white area of journalism but it's not inherently shady that she would have paid these people but what's crazy is that people love to believe abusers and liars like this when it's like come on now if you saw a dude that looked like John McAfee on the motherfucking street and somebody

told you that he was a rapist and let's say he was having a party tonight he was like trying to give you a flyer somebody was like that guy's a rapist you would be like okay I'm not gonna go to that party like you would immediately not go to that party I feel like giant full arm and shoulder length tribal tattoos are like being in the sex offender registry like it says the same thing to me like okay also just like he was a walking advertisement for methamphetamines like please stop acting like y'all didn't watch those truth commercials in the 90s where people were melting into couches and shit it was always a dude who looked just like McAfee on there picking at his damn face like he

is the after photo of crack no I believe everybody the after photo of something so in that medium post McAfee's mentioned suing showtime for defamation as of this moment no lawsuit has been launched there is some evidence that after decades of buying expensive homes and equally expensive lawsuits as well as however much money it cost to flee justice and believes and hire Guatemala's best criminal defense attorney to be mildly expensive yeah John McAfee was running low on cash at this point there's a little bit evidence of that so despite having claimed that he was done with the business world back in like 1999 he signed a deal with MGT a cyber security company to become its CEO shares rose I think so yeah shares rose

1200% with this announcement now as part of the deal MGT agreed to buy McAfee's divisive app an anti spyware program that someone had developed and that he was sticking his name on because he had some brand recognition so for a while this seemed like a potential gold mine until the SEC subpoenaed them and sent stocks tumbling back down again he was snorting fake bath salts fake bath salts CEO 1200% raise in shares even after the shares fell because the SEC subpoenaed them was still up like 500% just because it had McAfee's name attached wow yeah it's frustrating but no amount of legal financial or business trouble was going to stop John McAfee from hitting that last square on the white guy

bingo card and running for president of the United States see I at the time I thought you meant believes no of the United States Lord and if he had ran at the right time he probably would be president right now because this is a smarter Trump he did run in the same election Trump ran in so yeah he started giving lurid interviews to YouTube channels with names like Liberty pen another libertarian he ran as a libertarian oh that's why he didn't win he ran as a racist I mean I mean yeah I mean you're probably right if he just thrown in some like that's the thing about McAfee is all of his racism has been of the consuming people's diet racism he's a culture vulture he's a culture vulture yeah but he's not a

build the wall kind of guy no no no yeah although maybe he'll turn into that in the next two or three years so the videos for John McAfee's presidential campaign were distinctly less fun than his wacky McAfee uninstalls McAfee viral hit that video had been pretty clearly tongue-in-cheek you know the guns and the drugs are all joking right like it's it's kind of silly yeah but it's funny because like he's making fun of this image that he had sure yeah he was definitely poking fun at the image yeah the campaign videos in these videos the character is gone it's not funny anymore I think he is but he's not joking about it and he's not joking about the guns either the videos portray just a heavily armed

and clearly unhinged man so I'm gonna play you a selection from that video but I really recommend you at home watch it again John McAfee in this does not come across as wacky or madcap he seems ill like very ill like our current president yeah in chaos power is the boss the second in command the third in command the fourth in command the peon when that breaks down and the peon no longer is listening and the peon goes I'm mad as hell and I'm not taking this shit anymore then chaos reigns so the whole videos like that is he spends a lot of time talking about how the scene aloha cartels coming to kill him he's always got a gun in his hand there's tons of shots of him just walking around on

his porch with a rifle like his security guard is like it's he he seems unhinged right you saw it like he's just always got a gun like but in this day it is though I'm like I can still see him being a viable kid yeah I'm not saying he wouldn't be viable I'm saying he seems ill in that oh absolutely like what was he even talking about the peon yeah is the peon it's just that you is that me why are you loading guns in this video in your presidential campaign who are you about to shoot in this presidential campaign video the scene aloha cartel his belief has evolved from like this town is a center of drug trafficking to the Belizean government and the scene aloha cartel are after him so now in that video

he talks a lot about how like yeah the cartels coming to murder him in his family so why would we want you to be president why would we want you that seems like we have to start really invested in more security and like you are wanted man also he's smoking copious amounts of cigarettes in this video what are we supposed to take from this it's really weird he also drinks um increasingly in the things you've seen he's been claiming he's been sober and hasn't drunk right at this point on he's never not drinking whenever journalists around him whenever he's in a video he's always drinking huge amounts of alcohol and he gains about 40 pounds from 2016 up to present day and I think it's mostly from the liquor he looks

kind of healthy though he looks kind of healthy there this is the start okay this is the start okay because I was about to say he was pretty cracked out so 40 pounds actually would look nice on his frame yeah now there's a woman in that video named Janice Dyson now in December of 2012 when John McAfee first returned to the US from Central America he met Janice outside of a cafe in Florida she offered him a blow job he said no but he paid her to cuddle at least according to him they wound up striking up a relationship this apparently angered her pimp a guy named Crutchfield who she and McAfee claim wanted her to give him info on where McAfee was staying so he could kidnap McAfee or something it's Crutchfield

Crutchfield's the name of the pimp that sounds like a pimp but like a low budget pimp Crutchfield doesn't have any Crutch velvet he doesn't own any gay to shoes I don't think any of the nice yeah he met her outside of a cafe like yeah he's like operating out of like a 96 Nissan you know what I mean this ain't a good pimp we're not talking about like Bellagio level right this a bishop died one Crutchfield is a very low budget pimp they probably not even accepting Venmo or like app payments like they either don't accept Venmo or only take Venmo he probably still bartering like yeah we'll do sex acts for for canned goods no it's not good John McAfee they might take Bitcoin yeah okay so Crutchfield what is the

location he was a location so we can kidnap John McAfee Janice apparently claims that she like stopped talking to her pimp at this point and she and John start dating and they got married in 2013 so like a few months after meeting him they get married but they seem to have had an instantly kind of difficult relationship so later in 2013 she leaves their home in Portland after a fight and calls Crutchfield really be low on funds he must be low on funds or maybe they had a good relationship I don't know no I mean like McAfee must be low on funds because I feel like once you leave your pimp you don't go back to pimp and well if you leave your rich husband maybe that's a spiral right there she might have

been going to him for emotional support I don't know but he told her people were after McAfee and he she claims that you know she reconciled with John after this but Crutchfield started blackmailing her and making her leave the doors of their home unlocked and trying to get her to drug his food so he'd be easy to kidnap now very possible these are all lies on her part because I do think that John McAfee may have married another scammer oh for sure he likes scammers I will say this the journal or the doctor who went to play guitar and then met him in a bar and then started working in a compound that sounds like some scammer shit to me like she was also a scammer for sure well we'll get into what she might have

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to CSI on trial on the I heart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts we're back we're talking about John McAfee who has just married a young lady named Janice who claims that after a fight she wound up being blackmailed by her pimp to help him kidnap John McAfee probably on behalf of some cartel or something it's really hard to say what happened here and what the truth is this is what Janice claims this is what McAfee claims there were several interviews with him published after the 2016 election and you know this was all well he'd moved to Tennessee by this point and bought a small compound in Tennessee this time so it's really hard to say what happens but this is what

he starts telling journalists around this time his wife tried to have him murdered or tried to have him kidnapped or something and yeah it's it makes sense she did contact the pimp again so maybe maybe so anyway what we do what we know for sure is that after the 2016 election interviews with John McAfee at his compound in Tennessee show him like really degenerating for one thing he's drinking constantly even though he was still claiming to be sober at that point for another his security detail expanded from the one guy you see in that video to like a basketball team worth of muscular heavily armed men like he posed with them regularly like he'd love to photo shoot yeah he's always naked

always wearing a gun and always surrounded by big guys with guns like McAfee gives me like rapper vibes like I'm getting a lot of Chief Keefe like a lot of like just posing with guns yeah you know I really likes that he really likes not shooting anyone just having a like who's taking the photo shoots like alright could you smile less yeah yeah can we get the gun more in frame you gotta look tougher yeah a little tougher okay yeah just flex your arm make sure the guy with a really big bicep corner right can we get him in front so we can see the bicep yeah lovely we really need that bicep beautiful okay and just cheat the gun a little to the left great great that's great McAfee that's great so in September

of 2017 all of John McAfee's paranoia excised itself in a heavily armed rampage by John McAfee against his own home here's news week quote September 4th Alex Hendrick one of his guards woke up in his basement bedroom to the sound of gunfire having served in the army for eight years the private security guard recognized the noise immediately realizing the shots were coming from the rooms above him Hendrick 28 grabbed his assault rifle and rushed upstairs there naked but for an ammunition belt with 71 year old tech tycoon and former fugitive John McAfee spraying bullets into the wall and sealing of the living room seeing Hendrick he stopped firing there's an intruder he said Janice McAfee 34 John's

wife of nearly five years recalled that the couple were having sex at their home in Lexington Tennessee that night when they were interrupted by their dogs barking he thought he heard movement in the crawl space under a bedroom in the attic and then fired his gun into both areas she later said in a statement to the FBI obtained by news week so 71 71 engaged in coitus and found by his bodyguard naked with a bandolier of ammo firing which I want to be 71 and nakedly shooting up my own home that sounds like a great time right this man has impeccable health yeah he's he's he's very robust talk about somebody who put their body through the ringer and that shit is holding up yeah should we all be doing bath salt yes

our bath salts the key to hell you need bath salts guns and dogs okay and that's apparently the key to health Sophie you look I really can't tell what emotion you're expressing right now you have a gun so you're already a third of the way there I mean a dog so you're already there you have a dog Sophie not a gun yeah he has a lot of dogs he has a lot of dogs oh then after he murdered dogs he has more dogs yeah he keeps getting more dogs poor dogs seems to be a dog lover now after this armed rampage Janice claims she told McAfee that his wild paranoia was justified because she'd been informing on him to her former pimp so this is when she tells John that she's been informing on him to her pimp okay so she's

like validating his like delusion a little bit it might be that it might be a scam it might be that he was just so angry that she felt like she had to tell him something so that he would calm down like it's really hard to tell what happened but something nuts is happening yeah when you're talking to a senile man with an assault rifle on bath salts again at the time she's telling him this he is naked with a gun in his hand having just damaged their eardrums permanently by firing an assault rifle inside like well John take it outside okay you know what I'm the guy I was trying to kill you but now we're fine which if we look at history that probably worked for him since his last girlfriend definitely tried

to shoot him in the head and he was like all right well you sleeping in the guest house now yeah yeah maybe she just wanted a guest house let's say you try to shoot it John you get a house so after this whole misadventure John McAfee told Newsweek quote it's a complicated morass of a spider's web I am the fly and the spider has more than eight legs this is more or less the tenor of everything John McAfee has said since 2016 very poetic yeah so because his security detail could find no signs of forced entry McAfee started living under the assumption that some of them too were in on the giant conspiracy against him oddly enough John stayed with Janice the wife who just admitted to helping drug King Benz hunt

him quote it's been one plot after another my wife was in full cooperation with them but at the same time trying to urge me not to do things that would lead me directly into the trap without telling me that she was cooperating to collect me Janice has probably done more good than harm because while she was cooperating she at the same time kind of likes me I guess he told Newsweek that he had no plans of leaving his wife and that they are still together today he told them he loved her she was not willing to say that she loved him but she did tell Newsweek that she admired her husband so there's that I don't really know you won't even lie to a news source about loving someone that means you hate them because I would listen

if I'm with the man and you know he paying these bills and I ain't got to go back down to fuck with a what was his name was it crutchfield fucking crutchety ass pimp named crutchfield crutchfield you know you work in long days like hell no like I at least say I love him on TV yeah news week like not even real journalist like yeah sorry Newsweek that was mean for no reason I don't know maybe you deserve it let me do some research yikes yeah quote from Newsweek in an email to Newsweek on November 12th McAfee wrote I eat sleep and shower with a pistol in my hand when I enter the main house for my bedroom secured with a 10 gauge solid steel door my two German shepherds and one pit bull proceed me moments before I emerge

I call my head of security and request that my detail all be sitting and reclining chairs with their feet up a vulnerable position since I am standing and armed it is not a fun situation John McAfee's crazy right now oh yeah for sure what and he's pretty neurotic to like to think that you're like dude really you made a antivirus software program like you're not El Chapo like you don't have anything anybody calm down John like nobody's looking for you nobody cares the year after that batshit Newsweek article was published men's journal center writer to John McAfee's compound where it became clear the situation had deteriorated even further McAfee spent his days darting around his compound looking for partly eaten

packets of cream cheese which he said were evidence of cartel hitman yep at one point he picked up a random rock and insisted that it had been brought over from Mexico to help the hitman with their homesickness the journalist noted that like his magazine was like they don't have rocks like this in America and the guy was like there's a pile of rocks nearby that looked just like it he's just he's yo he really lost that these aren't even signals I mean at least if there was like an avocado around you could be like yeah the cartel left this avocado but a rock and some cream cheese well it's hard to so cuz number one we one thing we know about John McAfee what's his favorite pastime lying to journalists yes

that is so this could all be an act right but it also really seems like a lot of this might just be that he's gone off the deep end yeah and he's bought into his own bullshit and he's legitimately crazy now I really don't know the article did make it very clear the men's journal article made it very clear that John McAfee who had been claiming to be sober for years was now drinking heavily all day every day even pounding vodka in the TSA line at the airport which I've done I'm not gonna I'm not too proud I've got wasted in the TSA you can't take it with you can't take it with you will take it away so you pour it into a coffee thermos and you make sure that you're just sober enough to walk through

that line and then whatever happens in the airport after that is fine right yeah look they have so many bars in the airport that's what they tell you to get there early it's a scam you don't need to get there early for TSA you gotta get there early so you can sit around in the airport bar and drink I mean that's why I get to the airport early airport is like international laws yeah five o'clock all the time at the airport always five o'clock and nobody's got a problem if you're drinking oh hell no you can drink it today and people like you're a traveler you're in an airport in a way yeah it's fine yeah I love airports now the writer of that men's journal article followed John McAfee in his entourage to speak

at a technology conference during that time the writer had a moment with McAfee's body guard an older gentleman named pool and I'm going to read that quote because it really gives you some incredible color on the kind of people John McAfee has surrounded himself named pool his name was last name okay last quote I sit with pool a balding white haired man with a penchant for endless southern fried chatter and a devout belief in his boss he doesn't go anywhere without me says pool blowing on his coffee he won't say exactly what he did before working with McAfee but it involved a connected family in Chicago I know there are bad guys out to get him and it's not going to happen on my watch I don't need sleep I

can watch all day and night pool makes a face and excuses himself a few minutes later he returns holding a napkin to his bleeding mouth I asked him what happened I had a tooth that was bothering me so I went outside and asked a construction worker if I could borrow a wrench he shows me an off-color fang that was in his mouth ten minutes ago pool tosses it into the trash he flashes a gap tooth smile now I can enjoy my coffee what okay okay first of all McAfee you can't get your your entourage no dental like they can't get dental I guess I can't go to the dentist if they watch it day and night exactly he's got to do his own dentist work you know I'm gonna call this guy and Andy King that's what I'm calling

all people who are just this devout Andy King was that dude who said he was gonna suck dick for every hour water in the fire festival documentary and now if anybody is that dedicated but I might have to change it to pool he's gonna be a pool he took his tooth out to impress a guy from men's journal which it's a good article good good writing good journalism but weird flex bro your teeth are falling out fam because if you could take I don't care if you had a construction tool if you could take your own tooth out that joint was loose yeah probably like you're an old man how are you gonna fight I don't I mean it with a gun you can be old and dangerous yeah I guess but people can disarm people with guns yeah I'm decent look

at Liam decent who's also old he neck chopped everybody I bet he pulls his own teeth out so poor guy oh just to pull back for a minute in the 15 years or so since the sky gypsies were a thing John McAfee has gone from an extreme sports guru partying with a bunch of rich adventure junkies to a very sick very paranoid maniac hanging out with a constellation of mentally ill people and opportunists suckling off his apparently limitless cash reserves and enabling his paranoia now I spent a lot of my time when I was working on this article trying to figure out what exactly had driven John to such a place of madness I got one possible answer near the end of my research after a helpful fan on Twitter pointed me

to an article published by Jeff Wise in New York Magazine in 2016 the obscure legal drug that fuels John McAfee so you remember when they found those crystals a crystalline chemical and his jungle fortress we're about to learn what it probably was quote from that article a former member of his inner circle forwarded me a photo of a packaging label that one of McAfee's friends took in the course of a four day binge earlier in this month in New York City now the binge was in New York but this is while John was living in Tennessee not all that long before he started shooting up his own house and wandering around the grounds looking for cream cheese packets okay quote the label from a package delivered

from a Chinese chemical company suggests why McAfee never called the drug by name the moniker one fennel two one pyrodinol one hexanone hardly rolls trippingly off the tongue the chemical compound has no street name although among organic chemists it goes by the slightly catchier handle of alpha PHP now alpha PHP is a dopamine uptake re inhibitor it basically makes you happy deliriously excitedly happy like your brain normally releases dopamine during good times and then it sucks it back up into the synapses because you know you don't want to have too much going on there a drug like this stops your brain from sucking it back up it's kind of the same thing that ecstasy does with serotonin so it's a powerful

happy drug but it has downsides too there's a fantastic website that if you're if you're looking at experimenting with drugs the way I did when I was nineteen twenty twenty one twenty two twenty if you're looking at experimenting with drugs you got to check out aeroid it's a fantastic website it collects arrow with arrow with ero w id okay because it sounded like you said heroin no no if you're getting into drugs you got to start with heroin that's where you start yeah no no don't start there don't ever go there okay arrow with arrow with guys so if you're like into like I did you know I've done I've done like my ecstasy and my lsd and stuff but I also did a bunch of weird shit that like two ct seven five

m e o m i p t which not dxm that's a common one but like mdpv I've done like weird if you want if you're going to do weird stuff like that we're going to do like the show like internet and stuff yeah they sound like noise bands a lot of noise bands are named after drugs if you're going to do that stuff you got to go to arrow with because it collects stories of other drug users a lot of them are also chemists who have made this stuff and so it'll be like the best health information available but it also includes reports from people who have done this stuff and so on this website looking up alpha php I found a particularly evocative review that I think will help us understand what was going on in John McAfee's

head as he takes this stuff I want to know now the review is titled from psychonaut to junkie in two weeks so it's not a happy story quote I felt the rush build up in five minutes and for the next 20 minutes I felt the most intense euphoria I have ever known this felt miles more euphoric than cocaine surprisingly it even felt better than meth it felt too good and 20 minutes later I felt the most heart pounding anxiety attack I realized my stimulant tolerance was at zero 40 milligram is a start dose with too much I call myself down and walked around my entire house trying to ease my mind after one hour of the initial dose I took another 35 to 40 milligram line and the euphoria struck me again it didn't

wind out down like it would with cocaine the second line never feels as good as the first with cocaine but with this it pretty much brought the euphoria back so this guy describes as like better more addictive cocaine and we know John McAfee has a fucking problem with cocaine right and I can see John having a similar first experience because this guy had a low tolerance when he first started John's been sober for years and he's older when the Rick James thing happens exactly I can see this hitting him hard and I can see him falling hard in love with it and the best thing about it of course would be that it's legal there's something called the analog acts so if a drug that's not explicitly illegal

by name is too similar to another drug that is illegal that drug is also illegal but there's a lot of drugs out there that are really powerful psychedelics you trip for like fucking 16 hours but there's no law against them because it's just something some somebody tweaked a couple of chemicals and now like this new psychedelic exists and like so what I was doing I was a teenager is we would buy this shit like 1920 we would buy this shit from like Canadian pharmaceutical sites and you would just experiment with stuff nobody's done and you'd like you've got some weird chemical that you're like hope this doesn't kill me like but the other thing you're hoping is that you don't run into what John ran into which is like for everybody

out there there's one drug that will be your downfall like it's for some people it's alcohol for some people it's meth for some people it's pills everybody's got a substance that if you were to try it you'd realize it fills some hole in your head so well that like it's instantly a problem for you like that's that's something anyone who experiments with a lot of substances that's always in the back of your head right Russian roulette with addiction you're very much playing Russian roulette when you start messing around with this stuff and I think John McAfee hit a loaded cylinder like that that's exactly what happened is he started playing around with some chemicals and he found one that hit his neurotransmitters

just right yeah it just filled the hole in his brain this is also a rich ass drug because it's like you can't go out and get this shit you can't walk down the street or go to you know what I mean that's possibly true I'm gonna bet it's actually way cheaper than coke because it's not a web like you just it doesn't have to be dark it's legal so you could you could be I mean I'm going to walk raise and get this shit no but if you're you could you're ordering it from like China or whatever but you can order it by the pound and it's probably not crazy expensive like if it's not if it's not illegal if they're just shipping it to your there's no demand yeah why would it why would it be expensive right like yeah as long

as it's someone's making it it can be pretty reasonable to buy I haven't looked into what alpha php costs right but I'm gonna guess it's cheaper than good blow that's crazy yeah I don't know but but it also makes sense though because if this is something that specifically made and it's not made to sell for cheaper like why blow is expensive it's because most of it's cut with shit so you're paying to not snort baby laxative or whatever the fuck else yeah okay yeah yeah that makes sense yeah that makes sense so a lot of John's behavior since 2010 makes more sense if you realize he's been pounding better cocaine into his brain and increasing doses the entire time and his what he was doing with Allison in

that lab makes more sense if you oh maybe this was how John wanted to fund his medical research is by selling alpha php because it's legal and again he didn't get busted when the government found it right they had no idea what it was it's one of those things as soon as I read this article a whole bunch of stuff fell into place that was all weird and it's like oh he was on this weird ass drug the whole time and he was trying to sell it and that's part of what he was doing in Belize yes also it must be hard to try to sell drugs when you are on them well I assume he had distributors you know he's a business guy he's good he's very good at business he's good at his businesses yeah I'm sure he's

fine at that part now the writer on arrow would went on about his experiences quote more and more this substance started to take control of my life I would be up all night now instead of focusing on the task at hand my procrastination was amplified instead of the rush I just got an energy boost something strange about this substance I began to notice like it had hijacked my mind and started to control me and involuntarily I would be redosing without being fully aware then I started to binge a few days straight I said to myself I don't have anything to worry about I'm not an addict I'll taper and give it up for a week it never happened the cravings were too intense my mind was wired to seek it the cravings were most intense

the most intense I ever felt this is similar to cocaine if I have a bag of cocaine I want to finish it it also hijacked my mind in a similar fashion cocaine was more finished to me once the bag was done I wouldn't have any desire to seek it again for a while there were no cravings after the cocaine was gone but there were strong cravings while I had alpha php I would continue to snort it even though I knew that there was no point and I'm wasting it but it is so hard to break that craving desire this is what John McAfee might be on now if the latest videos he's been posting or anything to go by McAfee is definitely on this stuff because about two weeks before this episode will drop John

McAfee announced to the internet the IRS had convened a grand jury in Tennessee to charge him his wife and four McAfee 2020 campaign workers with tax fraud John admitted that he had not been paying taxes for the last eight years he further announced that in order to evade the IRS he would be conducting his presidential campaign in exile aboard a boat sailing to and from various foreign ports yeah in a series of tweets that have just been quite the ride he claims his boat has 30 high-tech firearms and videos he has posted certainly show numerous guns among he and his crew McAfee has a documentarian on board what he's dubbed the freedom boat he's claiming the government's trying to

arrest him for political reasons so he's trying to like seek asylum in the exhumas under the he like wants that to be the reason he wants that to be no John you admitted you didn't pay taxes in eight years that's what happens he wants to be so baller it really seems like he wants to be like a thug yeah anyway what I wanted to point I want you to watch one of the videos he posted on the second day of his exile because it really makes him look like he's on alpha pH I'm gonna actually before you play this I'm gonna read you one last description from this user talking about what the drug did to him people around me could notice my addiction before I did they notice my peoples were strange they noticed

I wasn't eating much or at all and they noticed how fast I was talking they noticed my nose was stuffy my family noticed my face was changing but they weren't all that concerned just that I look different my dad said I look much weaker with my hands all constantly shaky now I'm gonna play this video and you tell me if this looks like a guy going through that exact fucking thing good evening ladies and gentlemen you're probably wondering how I'm going to manage my presidential campaign from a boat I have with me on this little speaker my campaign manager Rob lozier in New York we're going to explain it first of all we have thousands of volunteers Rob and one of our other volunteers are creating masks of my face he looks like

he's sitting in a massage chair like his whole body is moving yeah and it looks like he's consciously trying not to touch his nose yeah but his hand just keeps flying up there yeah I had a little Twitter interaction with him and he started claiming like people because I joked that he was on cocaine and because that's what I thought I hadn't read about the alpha PHP and he was like I'm not on cocaine I'm a 73 year old man you know you lose control of your body and stuff and I lived with my grandpa when he was dying of Parkinson's at age 84 I know what it looks like when an old man loses control of his body I've also done a lot of cocaine and I know what it looks like when people are railing amphetamines

and other kinds of uppers right it looks like that that is what it looks like when you do too much speed uncontrollable yeah like I've seen sign language people like you know people who like interpret I've seen interpreters move less yeah like he's his hands were constantly moving yeah my god it's scary right he doesn't look healthy no not at all now he's posted numerous videos from his boat exile he seems to be safely in the exhumus now he at one point put up like a chart manifest of like what's on the boat and it was like seven brave soldiers you know one John McAfee 410 pounds of dogs and he listed his wife as one terrifying black woman John McAfee brah that's the right response and one angry black woman so you

know where we're equipped yeah look I and his dogs look so confused they don't belong on yachts and this is also why people should not have this much money like this man did not need this much money had no idea what to do with it he manifested this whole life and it's been a really bad one for a lot of the people around him now I will note that I haven't found any evidence yet that the IRS actually did convene a grand jury in Tennessee that's what John McAfee I don't think that they did because when the IRS comes to get you they come to get you they really do seems like they're they usually are pretty on the ball about that they pick you up and they're like get insist they don't let you flee on

a boat absolutely not you don't get to leave the country when the IRS wants you maybe they slipped up or maybe or maybe it had more to do with the fact that on November 15th 2018 roughly a month before John would get on his boat and go on the run he was found legally liable via default judgment for the death of Greg fall or murder of Greg fall I should say he was also found legally liable in 2014 for the death of his nephew and that student at the Sky Gypsy Academy now on November 16th 2018 John tweeted about the judgment against him in the Greg fall murder case quote this was my 203rd lawsuit I never answer them I always default to whatever their lawyers claim my first wrongful death was due to an airplane

that crashed piloted by my student pilot I was found liable I owe nothing own nothing and no one has ever collected so it is possible at the end of all this that all of this madness all of John McAfee's posturing with guns and his talk of drugs that this is all more of an act that this whole IRS thing so presidential 2020 campaign his flying to the exhumas on a boat that this is all just as much of a sham as his medical lab in Belize that he's not maybe even not on alpha PHP and bath salts maybe this is all an act too and maybe rather than being some heart of darkness style tale of Madison paranoia John McAfee is just an asshole who's okay with rape and murder doing whatever he can to protect whatever remains

of his fortune from his lawyers maybe this is yet another scheme like when he went to those newspapers back in the day and he's just knows that he doesn't want Greg falls family to collect on anything and so he fled the country I don't know or he's a mad man on drugs on a boat or both it's gotta be both it's gotta be it's probably both gotta be both he's probably both lying to everyone on and on because he's definitely drinking a lot yeah they had 1800 quarts of liquor on the boat the way that which was he telling people I don't know because most people have enough shame that just like no shame this guy also like he this is freaking crazy he has been entangled with so many people's demise

this woman's rape these people's murder yeah and like he has to at least be a sociopath and he needs attention like he needs people to be looking at him he poses with guns like he always has an entourage always has an entourage for the last like 30 some odd years he's never not had an entourage it feels like he's obsessed with celebrity like he wants to be he's like a con artist but he also wants to be famous he's got a lot of like he reminds me of Trump but like a way smarter guy this guy is intelligent and that he's not of course you can't argue that he's like so smart yeah but I also I feel like he's lost control to a degree because what he's doing now is not as well thought like his lie about being in

financial trouble and then escape to beliefs that was a good con well executed right this seems like he may have lost the con a little bit like he may just be winging it right now yes because he's got some problems and he's old his mind's not working as well he's on drugs and drinking again I don't know maybe this is just a scammer in his twilight years I would assume that everyone on this boat is on this drug too yeah maybe I think they might more be a mix of people who are doing it for the money like is the boat pilot seems like a guy who's just like yeah dude I just yeah whatever whatever yeah fine fine and his wife I assume probably also in it for the money she doesn't look like she's like

none of the other people on the boat have the same sort of like jerky spasmodic kind of heir to them that McAfee does I'm sure they're all drinking I think it's probably a mix of true believers who thinks he's like libertarian Jesus and a mix of people who are just in it for the cash but I really don't know I don't even it's weird I hope his dogs are okay poor Sophie I don't really care about any of the people on that boat but I hope the dogs are all right no those people have willingly rolled the dice they know what they're in for you don't get on a boat what about who looks like that you don't get on a boat with this guy with this guy and have me feel bad when it goes wrong on you right like that

black woman is on the second worst boat ride for black people they have a problem oh Jesus like there's obviously one boat ride that was a lot worse for us but this one is probably also pretty bad not it's not as bad but it's up there we're gonna put it on the scale so that's a boat I would not be getting on no no no no no I will say I've had a couple of friends who were sex workers and a number of people that I've interviewed who did that job and the one thing all of them have said about being a sex worker is you never get on a guy's boat never ever ever get on a rich guy's boat yeah hell no water yeah no so you know but I mean he documented that she's on the boat yeah I mean there was only one terrifying

black woman that is associated with that's true and he's posted a lot of videos of their stuff oh their stuff well just like them fly it driving around the boat them drinking like a lot of like out of focus pictures of chunks of the boat like it's really weird but he's gonna live forever he's got another 20 years in and I'm sure he's gonna kill at least three more people probably rape another couple of people oh no yeah this guy what a degenerate like he harmed so many he's really hurt a lot of people his own family just a lot of people so I gotta ask are you gonna vote for him in 2020 I mean he's not that much different from Trump let's be real I mean I might pick him over Trump but at least he's up front

with this shit you know he's eloquent he's got a lot of presidential John McAfee eventually tells the truth when he commits crimes he got an army he got his own army that he's had a couple yeah he's funding his own militia for no reason and at least you know not paying taxes in eight years is still more recently than the president's paid right right we could probably at least get his taxes yeah he probably has a couple of tax returns right he hasn't like rail bath salts through the rolled up paper listen and Trump is doing Adderall which one is better Adderall yeah yeah yeah you're right you're right you're right you're right time release yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah take it back alright Lacey you got some

pluggables to plug yes um I love scams so this was a great podcast for me to come on um my scam podcast scam goddess will be dropping soon so follow me on Twitter at Diva Lacey D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I and on Instagram at Diva Lacey D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I on Instagram you can watch my stories that's where most of my activity is I'll reach your fortune uh that's my latest scam what do you think John McAfee's fortune is oh honestly it's looking like prosperity I don't even want to lie to you like he's probably going to be fine he's got 20 more years of of good good alabaster you know luck in him okay he'll be the governor of fucking California I've never seen somebody take white privilege so far I got not God bless you because

I hope he does not bless you but uh he already got plenty he got so much so much god the world is so fucked up it's really fucked up damn like talk about a man who's just fucking to everybody over what a monster what a monster uh you can find me speaking of monsters on twitter at I write okay uh you can find this podcast on the internet behind the bastards dot com you can find us on uh instagram and twitter at at bastards pod you can buy t shirts on t public their shirts you put them on your body they hide your nakedness uh god doesn't like us to be naked so yeah unless you just like to wear an aka and no pants yeah unless you want to go with the mac if you were out and just strap a gun to your chest and wear

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