Behind the Bastards - Reading About Nesara

Episode Date: September 30, 2021

Robert is joined again by Sofiya Alexandra to continue to discuss Nesera. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:11 Thanks. What? Half-assing it, my behind the bastards podcast. I'm Robert Evans and again, because of the family tragedy, I have a little bit less time than normal. So we did our one parter this week, which I hope you enjoyed. Quite detailed. And our second part, which is on the same subject,
Starting point is 00:02:33 is just going to be me yucking it up about a book with my good friend, Sofia Alexandria. Hello, Sofia. I mean, I would love it if you pronounce. Oh, sorry. I don't know why I keep saying Alexandria. I was thinking about. He didn't write the first time. I know, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Zoom has her name on it. I never look at the Zoom. Sofia. You're not looking at my face, are you? If so, I'm angry. What he's doing is he's like that me and boy that pulls your pigtails, but it's too. I'm gaslighting you.
Starting point is 00:03:05 You know that he likes you? He's like, oh, I'll mispronounce her name. So she doesn't know how much I enjoy podcasting with her to really let you know that I like you. I sent you and Sophie an image that's in the chat to the Zoom. That's the cover of the book we're about to read. And I want y'all to just pop that bastard open. I don't like it. How would you describe that book cover?
Starting point is 00:03:32 demonic. Like I've done something wrong and I'm being punished. Yeah, you have and you are. Absolutely. There's a barcode on a very angry incel. Yeah, there's it's it's interesting. The top is like a bunch of money, right? It's it's like a stack of bills with the name of the which is trash.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Yeah, I love it. Nessara is a month is a money sign. Nessara and the mark of the beast is the title. The top is a bunch of money behind like behind the the name of the author, Dr. Scott Young. And then the face on the bottom is like a very intense, like you said, an incel looking dude with a barcode on his forehead. And it's just eyes and eyebrows. And I swear to God, they're so angry.
Starting point is 00:04:17 They're so angry. But like and like they clearly put extra makeup to make him look tired, but also didn't put makeup anywhere else. It's also clearly a stock image, right? Yes, 100 percent. They they licensed this from Getty or something. What do you think this name of the stock image was? Staring man.
Starting point is 00:04:40 White angry man, intense scare, something like that. Angry man. Yeah. Yeah, you don't think it was something like no orgasm. Dodd JPG. Never come. No FAP. Yeah, no FAP.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Dodd JPG 100 percent. Or you know, you know what? Or how about like a how about would hit you dot PNG? Yeah, would hit you because you accidentally unplugged his Xbox while he was playing a game. And also it's your fault. And also it's your fault. Yeah. So I want to talk a little bit about the author of this, Dr. Scott Young.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Now, normally when somebody's a doctor and they write a book like this, they're not a doctor. But Dr. Scott Young is a doctor. He's an audiologist. He's an audiologist who owns hearing solution centers, Inc. in Tulsa, Oklahoma. So he does like ear shit. He's an ear doctor. Now, I found his Facebook page, which has a little less than 1300 likes and 1300 followers.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And he describes himself as both an audiologist, a teacher, a guest speaker, an expert in in time events like the end times, you know, the apocalypse. As well as an expert in World War Two history. He writes fiction and nonfiction. And this is specifically angled as a nonfiction book. He's got videos on his YouTube pay or on his his Facebook about like Nessara and Bitcoin. So you can kind of tell how, you know, where this guy is, what sort of what sort of angle of the conspiracy world this guy's this guy's sliding into.
Starting point is 00:06:25 He also weirdly enough in the middle of like, like he'll have like weird religious like what the top post right now is him sharing a video from We The Kingdom official live videos that appears to be a Christian song. And he quotes some of the lyrics, which are ain't no devil going to tread on me. Satan will not take our nation. Biden is done and Jesus will bring in a harvest that doesn't hasn't been seen in more than 100 years. And like, I'm sorry, all the best Jesus songs have Biden in them. Okay, we all know that.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Some of my favorite hymns and spirituals are just like Biden related. I like that one cover of the Bloodhound Gangs. I want to fuck you like an animal where they just replace the word animal with Biden that I want to exist. So I did the Bloodhound Gang cover nine inch nails. Oh, was that was that a god dammit? I'm so shitty. What was the what was the fucking what was the Bloodhound Gang song about fucking?
Starting point is 00:07:29 They have a song about what he doesn't have a song about. Yeah, but like a really dirty. Oh, yeah. Sweat baby sweat is the opening opening lines. What the what the fuck is that song? Oh, yeah, you and me baby ain't nothing but mammals. So let's do what they like to do. Yeah, you and me Biden ain't nothing but mammals.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So let's see that that would be that. That was the joke I was trying to make, but I didn't organize my thoughts ahead of time. And I fucked up Robert. Good job. No, it wasn't Sophie. Eight for effort. I'm so proud of you. You're doing great, sweetie.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I am not. Corrected you very gently by just asking if you meant something else. We got to the right. And then I'm off to you as I should. And then and then you mocked me and now all of Twitter is going to mock me. Great. I love this. It is adorable.
Starting point is 00:08:15 You don't know anything about pop culture generally. So it's just really no. But I spent like 30 hours reading about Nessarra. Don't worry. I'm foreign, so I'm missing on a lot of it too. So one of the things that I think is funny about Dr. Scott Young is that like after two, like the top two posts on his Facebook are like wild conspiracy stuff. Biden and Satan are stealing the nation.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Nessarra and Bitcoin are going to save it. The third point post is him like a note that he's about to be the keynote speaker of the young businessman of Tulsa, which I think is quite funny. So that's that's who this guy is. He's written a fictional novel called The Violin's Secret, which is apparently about the survival of a young teenager through the Holocaust. And I don't want to read that because I'm sure it's terrible in ways that I can't quite anticipate right now.
Starting point is 00:09:10 You really should have let me do the reading because I totally read that. Take a look at The Violin's Secret. What about it's like, I can imagine the pitch. He's like, what if, okay, it's Anne Frank's diary, but it's me, a man who did know me through the Holocaust. And I don't think he's Jewish, but maybe is. No, I think that's not part of the pitch. Yeah, he's he's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:09:38 So one of the other things that his his biography in the back of the book we're about to read through says is that he wrote a book called Professor in History, which is his second fictional book, which is about, quote, a man who is an atheist but has the fantastic opportunity to ask Jesus unique questions on various topics. That is a fantastic opportunity. That is a great opportunity. I would just ask him his opinions of the Bloodhound Gang.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Because I bet I bet Jesus is a big fan. Who isn't right? Who doesn't love the Bloodhound Gang? I mean, clearly you are the biggest fan. Except for when I mix up the song. That's what I mean. I don't know. Never going to live that one down.
Starting point is 00:10:26 So the dedication to Nessarra and the Mark on the Beast is where I think we ought to start. Quote, oh God, I believe that the bride needs this message the most. They need to know who they are in Christ. He comes for you, but there is work in the spirit to be done. Your job is to find that work and begin doing it, Luke 1235. Many of you are concerned with the nature of the 2020 elections and the implications therein. The fascination legislation dubbed Nessarra will bring about mighty changes in life, but too many Christians are worried about the practical plan that the Bible will come true with,
Starting point is 00:10:59 Nessarra and the Mark of the Beast. I therefore wish to clear up those misunderstandings for you and pray you find peace. So that's the introduction. I don't know what he means by the bride needs this message most. I just feel like, you know, bitches need learning, you know, bitches need learning. That might very well be what he's saying, that like the women who are getting married right now need to know this the most.
Starting point is 00:11:24 So they, I don't know. I'm sure there's something heartbreaking that involves physical violence behind that, but it's not immediately clear to me. So chapter one is titled The 2020 Question and Scott Young opens with the passage that I think we can all identify with. If you have made it into 2020, you have felt much like the world is circling the drain. You might even wonder if it's all just a bad dream. You may have lost faith in the words of some of the people around you on social media,
Starting point is 00:11:49 the blather and mainstream media, or the conjuring of those in government. After the global response to the pandemic of 2020 for the COVID-19 virus, we moved right into racial inequity protests and then the destructive chaos of criminal rioting. So that's, you get, I guess, a lot of insight into what media bubble this guy's in. Yeah, there's a little bit of antifa fear mongering there. But your response should be inside of the word trust. To whom do you turn when things get out of hand? If your trust is inside of the government system, it is shaken.
Starting point is 00:12:21 If it is inside of your ability to create wealth in your business or investments, then the shutdown of the economies by forces outside of your control pushed you to the brink. If your trust is inside of your family and friend support system, then being shut inside your house with little sports and no new fictional programming on TV incurs levels of unknown depression. When you add news that screams to take away your freedom in exchange for your safety, it might concoct a potion of intense isolation that you are unprepared to handle. All of it feels like a poison.
Starting point is 00:12:47 So he's kind of accurately diagnosed the thing that is going to make people most vulnerable to the conspiratorial thinking that I think he's about to lay down, which is interesting. Usually, you don't see it laid out like that. You love to see it. Yeah, he knows what he's doing. Tell me how you're about to fuck me over, please. Well, he then goes into how retirement homes and assisted living have been hit incredibly hard by both the fact that the COVID-19 is killing old people
Starting point is 00:13:17 and the fact that they're isolated from their families. Their lack of communication increases the effects of dementia in their cognitive abilities. He mentions that he works with old people, so he's witnessed this some. Interesting. Okay, all of the above must bring the believer in Christ to the inescapable position of reducing your fear by increasing your trust in the one who made you. The soul, your mind, will, and emotions are asking great questions in this outrageous time frame of our lives and is not receiving an answer that makes any sense.
Starting point is 00:13:47 There is rampant speculation that Bill Gates, the Gates Foundation, and Anthony Fauci are pushing the world to produce a vaccine for COVID-19 to inoculate the populations of the world against this horrible disease. Since this disease was discovered in Wuhan, China, somewhere in January of 2020, there are questions as to his origin. Did the Chinese deep state unleash the toxin as an act of terrorism upon the globe to induce this panic and shutting down and creating their own level of control over the sheep that they call the people?
Starting point is 00:14:12 The CDC is lying to the population, once told that hundreds of thousands were dying, maybe closer to 9,000 were dying directly of this illness. That did not age well. That's interesting. So we start from this position of he clearly has enough of a foot inside of the real world that he starts with the broadly reasonable stuff. Hey, you're isolated. Everyone's alone.
Starting point is 00:14:36 This has been hard for different people for different reasons. Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation are Fauci are trying to make a vaccine to inoculate the population, which he doesn't initially stage, he doesn't initially frame as part of the conspiracy. He says that they're trying to do it to inoculate the populations against a horrible disease. But then immediately after that, he moves into uncritically repeating the conspiracy theory that COVID-19 might have been a deep state plot by China in order to exert control on the sheep they call the people.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And then by this point, after that paragraph, we're straight in the conspiracy stuff. The CDC is lying to the population, no one's really dying of COVID-19. And of course, inside of the vaccines that are presented by the World Health Organization and the CDC, some believe that a cure might come in 2021. The faith in the relief smacks of confidence in the origin of the manmade virus or its properties to not replicate itself into variant forms that are outside of their own. OK, so contact tracing. What is he?
Starting point is 00:15:35 OK, all right. So he gets into how they're. Oh, God, OK. The proposals by the WHO and CDC is to create a contract tracing with global positioning systems inside of the Apple iPhone software release. And then the vaccine is going to put a microchip. So he start. OK, are you familiar at all with the microchip vaccine conspiracy theory?
Starting point is 00:15:58 Yes. Then when you're getting the vaccine, you're actually getting a microchip that's going to control you. Control you. Yeah. Try and I think it's going to interface with the iPhone about it. Yeah, Bill Gates is doing it, but he's working with Apple, which if you know Bill Gates, that doesn't seem to work with Apple.
Starting point is 00:16:17 That's really funny, though. They're like in this fake scenario, everybody's friends. There's also conspiracy theories about people putting microchips in medical face masks as well. Have you seen that? Yeah, I've definitely heard that and it seems that he's he's going in through the like they're going to put a microchip to make you easier to track and they're going to say that it's so that they can track who's been vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:16:43 But then he launches into estimates, estimates that as many as 700,000 people will die of the vaccinations, which again, dude, that's like how we're closing it on that number of people who have died of the virus. But yeah, I guess we're we're thoroughly in bizarro world from right now. All of that leads to the Christian who reads the Bible indicating the following question. Could I be getting the mark of the beast inside this COVID-19 vaccination? Seen vaccination coming in 2021? The answer is maybe.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Like a scientist hedging his bets here. Maybe, maybe. Robert, you know what else it's maybe time for. You know what isn't maybe going to give you the mark of the beast? These goods and services. Definitely the mark of the beast. We ask every one of our advertisers, are you going to microchip our listeners with a mark of the beast that renders them vulnerable to the devil's plans for world domination?
Starting point is 00:17:51 And they always say, oh, most of them say no. Most of them say we are withdrawing our sponsorship from you. We do not realize when they say no. Yeah, some of them do wink. I assume it's always through email, but I've gotten pretty good at reading winks in an email. Well, it's an emoji, so that's how we know. Mm-hmm. The emoji is the real mark of the beast, by the way, products. During the summer of 2020, some Americans suspected that the FBI had secretly infiltrated
Starting point is 00:18:22 the racial justice demonstrations. And you know what? They were right. I'm Trevor Aronson, and I'm hosting a new podcast series, Alphabet Boys. As the FBI sometimes, you got to grab the little guy to go after the big guy. Each season will take you inside an undercover investigation. In the first season of Alphabet Boys, we're revealing how the FBI spied on protesters in Denver. At the center of this story is a raspy-voiced, cigar-smoking man who drives a silver hearse.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And inside his hearse were like a lot of goods. He's a shark, and not in the good, bad-ass way. He's a nasty shark. He was just waiting for me to set the date, the time, and then for sure he was trying to get it to heaven. Listen to Alphabet Boys on the iHeart Radio App, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Lance Bass, and you may know me from a little band called NSYNC. What you may not know is that when I was 23, I traveled to Moscow to train to become the youngest person to go to space.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And when I was there, as you can imagine, I heard some pretty wild stories. But there was this one that really stuck with me. About a Soviet astronaut who found himself stuck in space with no country to bring him down. It's 1991, and that man, Sergei Krekalev, is floating in orbit when he gets a message that down on Earth, his beloved country, the Soviet Union, is falling apart. And now he's left offending the Union's last outpost. This is the crazy story of the 313 days he spent in space, 313 days that changed the world. Listen to The Last Soviet on the iHeart Radio App, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:20:19 What if I told you that much of the forensic science you see on shows like CSI isn't based on actual science? The problem with forensic science in the criminal legal system today is that it's an awful lot of forensic and not an awful lot of science. And the wrongly convicted pay a horrific price. Two death sentences and a life without parole. My youngest, I was incarcerated two days after her first birthday. I'm Molly Herman. Join me as we put forensic science on trial.
Starting point is 00:20:54 To discover what happens when a match isn't a match and when there's no science in CSI. How many people have to be wrongly convicted before they realize that this stuff's all bogus? It's all made up. Listen to CSI on trial on the iHeart Radio App, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, we're back and we're we're we're we're skimming ahead here. So he's not a great writer, but not not a funnily bad writer either. Chapter two, we get into definitions of words, doctrine versus theology. So this is a definitely coming at the Nessarra thing for more of the Christian angle than the
Starting point is 00:21:44 than the New Age angle, which we talked about a little bit earlier. Yeah, there's an argument against atheists here. Wow, he's this this guy's kind of losing his his thread a little bit. Chapter three, tell me more about this beast. The number one question is not who the beast is, but who it isn't. Isn't Biden, Obama, Reagan, Trump the beast? But we don't even know what we are asking. I am a classically trained bad Googler.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I am somewhat get to what I need. But I almost always need help from my wife or son. So she's admitting I'm very bad at research. Oh, no, you need help from your wife to Google. Yeah, this guy who is who is proposing to send us a book that will make it clear whether or not because he still hasn't completely embraced that there's a devil plan to kill you. Though, why is the wife writing this book?
Starting point is 00:22:38 She did all your research. She seems like a classically good Googler. I type into the search bar what I believe is what I am saying, but I rarely receive the answer. I am asking why you're asking bad shit stuff. That's kind of what he says next, Sophia. Why? Because my brain operates differently than most people.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Why? I'm not a classically good thinker. I'm not a I'm not a real thinker of a brain ever. He does say that he has dyslexia, which made it hard to get through high school and to forget about college. But wait, he's a doctor, right? How did you not go to college? Something might be shady here.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Sometimes you skip a grade. OK, you wouldn't know about that. Skip college to doctor. Yeah, well, his phrasing is I have dyslexia and I was informed that it would be hard to make it through high school and to forget about college. Oh, OK, but he was told that he was. But he may he managed to make it happen.
Starting point is 00:23:45 OK, see, this is again one of the things that makes me sad about conspiratorial beliefs, because there's clearly a story here of a man with a disability who like overcame it enough to become a fucking doctor, an ear doctor, which is a real kind of medicine, you know, and then still got trapped in all of this nonsense and wrote this terrible book, which is. It speaks to how a society that wants to be as ethical as possible and mitigate all of
Starting point is 00:24:16 the horrors that we're currently dealing with should seek at all points to strictly limit the amount of things that individuals have a say on outside of their own immediate lives. This guy, I'm sure, could give me great advice on taking care of my ears, and I'm sure knows his own personal business just fine. He should have no say in like national politics. None of us should.
Starting point is 00:24:37 It shouldn't exist because it's a bad idea, and it leads to the shit that we're seeing, because these people, it's very frustrating, right? Like you get people who like this guy's clearly competent in one area of his life. But also when it comes to the national stage, believes that like Biden is part of some satanic conspiracy, working with Bill Gates to implant microchips in you.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And that doesn't speak well of the kind of democracy we have. Like fundamentally, there's a problem. So no one's wasting fucking free technology on you. Like no one's gonna... Well, it's not wasting, it's to track you. Yeah, but that's a waste. Yeah. My mind processes differently than most.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I ask the questions that most don't want to ask or in ask in the mainstream way, which is why Google and I are not friends. So let's apply my own brand of questioning to the above. Who is the beast? Firstly, you have to know what the Bible says about the beast, because the word is the genesis of the topic. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:34 So we go into Bible stuff. He talks about how a mark is like, comes from the Greek word that means etching, stamp, or tattoo. Most who choose to tattoo do so with great care. Oh, this is relevant to me today. Those choosing a tattoo pick out the concept with which they have an affinity while realizing
Starting point is 00:25:51 that it will be on their body for the rest of their lives. Therefore, having the mark of the beast would be in the same vein as a tattoo. No one would do so without some forethought as to why and where they were pasting an image on their body, especially where Revelation 13-18 depicts upon the right hand or the forehead. One idea that might be pertinent to the top,
Starting point is 00:26:10 it comes from the sporting culture. Teams create logos and quips that are plastered on the chest of a t-shirt or the forehead of a ball cap. Yada yada. So that's... This is... Yeah, where do we get to... He just keeps talking about the NFL and the mark of the beast here
Starting point is 00:26:26 and how, I guess, sporting culture is going to be... Oh, because he's convinced that in order to enter football and baseball games, you'll have to have the microchip in you that proves you've been vaccinated. Therefore, when they convince people to get the mark of the beast, they'll try to sell them that it's like getting a tattoo of your favorite sports team or something.
Starting point is 00:26:46 That's a... That's an approach to it, I guess, not one I'd run into. Okay, think of it this way. Let's say I'm an excellent offensive coordinator for a successful NFL franchise. Molding several quarterbacks into pro bowlers and championship teams. Your team is rebuilding, suffering through a few horrible seasons and wishes to speak with me about being your head coach.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Your real desire, actually, is the revolutionary playbook for which I would employ to develop your team. But you also learn, after investigating me, that I am a cancer in the locker room. I alienate all around me with a constant perfection and just tick them off until they wish to... But his hypothetical to imagine how the mark of the beast is going to get put into people is,
Starting point is 00:27:26 imagine I'm the best football coach ever and I'm so good that everybody hates me. Wow. Dream big. Getting an interesting insight into this guy. Yeah, the perfect football coach. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Who got murdered because he was too good. That's what's going on here, huh? In dreams here. Oh boy, okay, this is interesting. So the next chapter is... Or the next chunk is the Antichrist and the Christ. The Jews did not recognize Jesus when he entered the world on 9-11 of 3BC.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I'm always very wary when a sentence starts with, the Jews. The Jews? Yeah. What do you mean, Sophie? So frequently. The sentence ends with us getting free ice cream. I'm interested in why 9-11 comes into this.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Yeah, what is happening? It's such a... That might be one of the strangest sentences you've ever read. Yeah, it's interesting that... It's also interesting that Jesus was born on three years before Christ. Yeah, there's a lot here. Do you know what the BC stands for?
Starting point is 00:28:36 I don't know. But the next line is, if you want to know why... And this has, you know how on Kindle books, you can see if something's been highlighted by a lot of people? Uh-huh. This whole bit has been highlighted repeatedly. If you want to know why this fascinating
Starting point is 00:28:50 date is Jesus's actual birth, you must investigate Bethlehemstar.net to find the beautiful answers by a great researcher. So I'm going to take us to Bethlehemstar.net. Please do, because I want to know about this beautiful researcher. Bethlehemstar.net. I just also like that dot com was taken.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Well, there is a Bethlehemstar.com. Of course there is. That's where I went to first. Of course there is. And I liked that they blamed it. And I liked that they blamed it. I don't think I'm going to visit that site. Bethlehemstar.com is...
Starting point is 00:29:36 The last update was March 15, 2019, announcing the release of a film called The Christ Quake. That's interesting. Oh, I saw that. Oh, did you? Yeah, it was really good. It's like Sharknado, but like... Put an earthquake of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yeah, exactly. Oh, Christnado would be a pretty fun movie, right? Right. I mean, let's patent it. Let's get the merch going now. Yeah, we could make a lot of money before people realized that we're just giving it half of it to Nicholas Cage, to be our Jesus.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Wait, half of it? I thought this was an all Nicholas Cage production. Yeah, but I mean, we got to get rich, too. Like, we give Nicholas Cage the money he needs to continue his dinosaur skull addiction, and then we bring a couple of million off each, and then we retire to some country that has an extra die to the United States.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Okay, well, I thought the original plan was to just move in with Nicholas Cage after a little bit. Is that not what's happening anymore? I think after living with Nicholas Cage for a few months, you would decide that it was a mistake to live with Nicholas Cage. No, because we were going to be making
Starting point is 00:30:46 the next national treasure together, all of us. You just want to steal the Declaration of Independence. That has nothing to do with making a movie. Robert, you know who won't steal the Declaration of Independence? I don't know that that's the case, Sophie. That's fair. I just really wanted to make that transition. I mean, I might use their money in order
Starting point is 00:31:09 to enable me to steal the Declaration of Independence. Why is it just you now? It was going to be me, you, and Nicholas Cage. Yeah, but you know me. Sophie is going to be lookouts. Stop. I'm a pre-Madonna. I've stolen this plan, and now it's mine.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I knew you were going to go solo. Can confirm that. Ed. I thought I was the Beyonce. Why are you the Beyonce? How did I become the Michelle? I thought I was the Ringo. Yeah, you're definitely Ringo,
Starting point is 00:31:38 and you're definitely Beyonce. During the summer of 2020, some Americans suspected that the FBI had secretly infiltrated the racial justice demonstrations. And you know what? They were right. I'm Trevor Aronson, and I'm hosting a new podcast series, Alphabet Boys.
Starting point is 00:32:00 As the FBI, sometimes you've got to grab the little guy to go after the big guy. Each season will take you inside an undercover investigation. In the first season of Alphabet Boys, we're revealing how the FBI spied on protesters in Denver. At the center of this story is a raspy-voiced, cigar-smoking man who drives a silver hearse. And inside his hearse was like a lot of guns.
Starting point is 00:32:26 He's a shark, and not in the good and bad ass way. He's a nasty shark. He was just waiting for me to set the date, the time, and then for sure he was trying to get it to happen. Listen to Alphabet Boys on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Lance Bass, and you may know me from a little band called NSYNC.
Starting point is 00:32:48 What you may not know is that when I was 23, I traveled to Moscow to train to become the youngest person to go to space. And when I was there, as you can imagine, I heard some pretty wild stories. But there was this one that really stuck with me, about a Soviet astronaut who found himself stuck in space with no country to bring him down.
Starting point is 00:33:12 It's 1991, and that man, Sergei Krekalev, is floating in orbit when he gets a message that down on Earth, his beloved country, the Soviet Union, is falling apart. And now he's left defending the Union's last outpost. This is the crazy story of the 313 days he spent in space, 313 days that changed the world. Listen to The Last Soviet on the iHeart radio app,
Starting point is 00:33:40 Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. What if I told you that much of the forensic science you see on shows like CSI, isn't based on actual science? The problem with forensic science in the criminal legal system today is that it's an awful lot of forensic and not an awful lot of science. And the wrongly convicted pay a horrific price. Two death sentences and a life without parole.
Starting point is 00:34:09 My youngest, I was incarcerated two days after her first birthday. I'm Molly Herman. Join me as we put forensic science on trial to discover what happens when a match, isn't a match, and when there's no science in CSI. How many people have to be wrongly convicted before they realize that this stuff's all bogus? It's all made up.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Listen to CSI on trial on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. Well, we're back. Don't be sad about it, Robert. We're back, and we're going to read our friend the doctor talk more about the Jews. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Okay, again, a doctor talking about the Jews has historically not been good for us. It doesn't tend to end well. So according to our doctor friend, the Jews forgot that Moses rejected his position of political power that he inherited by his adoption inside of the Egyptian pharaohs. Jesus was born of a virgin,
Starting point is 00:35:14 a sinner, a Christian, a Christian, and at the time when she was perceived to have had an unnatural... Okay, more Jesus stuff. Wait, wait, wait. Moses didn't reject leadership. Instead of being the leader of Egypt, he became the leader of the fucking Jewish people. Of all of the Jewish people who led them into the desert.
Starting point is 00:35:32 He was more ambitious than he was. Like George W. Bush, he led them into the desert. That was a... Don't we like to laugh? Weird cheap shot I made there. Okay. Jesus predicted in Matthew 24 that there would be a false Christ arising in the future. What? It wasn't just one false Christ
Starting point is 00:35:54 that Jesus intimated at the time when he was answering the disciples' questions, but many of them. In The End by Mark Hitchcock, Dr. Hitchcock pontificated that Satan would have to keep an antichrist in his back pocket for every era after Jesus' death to whip him out for a moment he tried to identify.
Starting point is 00:36:10 What a tiring job for Satan as the liar to humanity, question Mark. I didn't think this would lead to him feeling sorry for Satan because he was working too hard. Therefore, if Dr. Hitchcock was correct in his historical assertion about Satan's future boy, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao Zedong, and Napoleon, to name a few,
Starting point is 00:36:34 were groomed for the job that would never come about in their times, then he goes into saying that the Kaiser Wilhelm was the antichrist of his era? I guess. Even President Woodrow Wilson was also considered an antichrist in 1918. He instituted a 13-point plan to end the war
Starting point is 00:36:52 with several conditions, including the formation of the League of Nations to resolve conflicts in the future. The League failed, as has its sister organization, the United Nations, which told to a policy of turn their swords into plows. There's something that occurs to me here, this idea that like all of the bad people in history,
Starting point is 00:37:11 are antichrists, is kind of a fun way of denying that like it's bad to give people power. Like the problem isn't that we build these systems that devolve an enormous amount of power to singular individuals who then use it terribly because power is inherently bad for you.
Starting point is 00:37:27 The problem is that the devil always has an antichrist in his back pocket that he's got to throw out every era. And that's where all the bad people come from. It's also like these people were training for a job they would never get to do. Yeah, you're never going to get to be the Jesus. They're just like alternates on the bench.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And they're like... Yeah, Napoleon was really just waiting to get to be Jesus. Yeah. They're like... They're like, in case LeBron breaks his leg, and then the guy who's actually gonna... Who's the alternate, who's gonna step in for LeBron,
Starting point is 00:37:59 breaks his leg, but then also like... You know, just got to keep making sure that if people break legs, there's enough of these antichrists on the bench. Yeah, Mao Zedong just waiting in the wings for his chance to be the antichrist. Ah, damn it.
Starting point is 00:38:15 He says on his deathbed, I really thought it was gonna happen for me. Also, how mad are you if you're Mussolini and you were training for this, and then you get fucking hanged and torn apart? I also, as a dictator stand, I love the order the list goes in, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao Zedong, and Napoleon.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Also Stalin, not a part of it. Now, where's Stalin on this, especially since you know this guy's scared of communists? Yeah, Stalin must be so upset. He doesn't make your list? Napoleon does, but Stalin doesn't? Oh, man. Good times.
Starting point is 00:39:00 So, I'm gonna see, I'm just gonna try to find out where Nessarra comes into this, because we are a third of the way into the book, and all we've heard about is the Mark of the Beast. Oh, boy. So, there appears to be... Yeah, we're really getting into the whole... I don't know if you remember this,
Starting point is 00:39:18 but in the late 1990s, there was a huge panic over barcodes. When those became mass instituted, that barcodes were the Mark of the Beast, and that all barcodes had a 666 hidden in them and the coding, and that, like, this was how the New World Order was going to track people. This guy, I'm gonna guess,
Starting point is 00:39:36 I don't know enough about his background, but he's the right age to have been caught up in that, and the religious dogma that he's pushing is very much in line with that. And he notes here in one paragraph, in the early 1990s to early 2000s, we juxtapose our worry on the chips that were implanted in the credit cards we carry today,
Starting point is 00:39:52 but did you know that in 2016, all businesses had to ditch their current credit card processing machines that didn't have chip records or chip readers? So he's like panicking over chip readers here. These microprocessors are in our future one way or the other. The gigabit limits are not a problem for the amounts of data we might wish to load on them.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Smartphones of the era are already conditioning people to accept geo-tagging themselves so that their family and friends can find them, along with their music, financial data, and passwords, to name a few apps. The concept of inserting a biomedical chip into the right hand might be much of a logical leap
Starting point is 00:40:23 to those who don't understand what the Bible states about it. Okay, yeah, this is pretty much what I'd expected. In terms of weird microchip conspiracy theory stuff, where the fuck does Nessarra come into here? Okay, chapter five. The title. The Federal Reserve. That's where it comes in, the title.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Is this really just a Nessarra grift for this guy to throw his warmed-up panic about the mark of the beast in credit card chips? How many pages is this book? It'd be very frustrated if so. It's 68 pages. We're more than a third of the way. We're 40% of the way through right now.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Can you search how many times Nessarra has mentioned? You know what, Sophie? I will do that for you. Oh my God, thank you so much. You know what else? 68 pages, that's like barely a pamphlet, honestly. Also, he could have done 69. He really cut up.
Starting point is 00:41:12 He could have gotten there. Okay, Nessarra doesn't come in until chapter six. Are you kidding me? Dog, this is a grift. This is a grift. Oh, it's a grift inside or grift. It's the fucking inception of grifts. It's a grift with a money sign at the end.
Starting point is 00:41:28 It's a grift money sign. It's grift-ception. Yeah, I mean, there's one mention of it at the very start where he says the fascination legislation dubbed Nessarra will bring about mighty changes in life. But then we don't hear about it again until chapter six. All right, Nessarra background. Farmers in the 1970s were sick of the government
Starting point is 00:41:49 taking their land and dictating what crops they could plant. So he claims that this started with a bunch of farmers angry at the government who hired a collective attorney to look at constitutional evidence for the government forcing them to plant crops, which I think is him talking about the subsidies that we gave people for growing corn and stuff in order to deal with the fact that, yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:08 they were producing too much of it. That's interesting. So what is this? Basically, okay. So he starts talking about the 14th Amendment, which is that the validity of public debt of the United States authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions
Starting point is 00:42:27 and bounties for services and suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned, but neither shall the United States or any other state assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States or claim for the loss of life of emancipation of any slave.
Starting point is 00:42:41 But all such debts, obligations and claims shall be huddled illegal and void. So this guy interprets that as saying that you can't be held liable for a debt that comes from a group outside the Constitution, which I think is, yeah. I mean, this is like some sovereign citizen stuff, right? The Federal Reserve is illegal
Starting point is 00:42:59 because it's extra constitutional. So none of your debts are legal because they're all a part of the Federal Reserve system. Okay, hold up, hold up. He has a point though. He has a point. About what? Student loans are illegal.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Don't have to pay them back. I mean, student loans, you shouldn't have to pay them back, but they're not illegal because the 14th Amendment says that you don't owe debts. That's what I heard. I heard I don't gotta pay them back now. We're going to pill Sophia this episode. You weren't on board when he started talking
Starting point is 00:43:36 about the Jews in a really concerning way, but now we're back on. Hey, look, as long as the Jews are going to be blamed for money stuff, I'm going to be greedy about that money. You might as well not have to pay for your student loans. I mean, that Jewish move is so classic. You do kind of hit on a point here,
Starting point is 00:43:55 which is that if the federal government, by which I mean Biden, were to forgive all federal student loans, it would reduce a lot of fuel for these conspiracy theories. That is a great pitch. As we've seen with Nessar, as this guy's clearly talking about, he opens his pamphlet by talking about how difficult, reasonably talking about how shitty 2020 is,
Starting point is 00:44:20 how hard the lockdown and the economic collapse has been for everybody, how bad the election has been for everybody, which are all perfectly reasonable things to point out. And it's like the original, the Omega conspiracy theory started in the late 90s with a bunch of Midwesterners who were seeing themselves economically marginalized. And then it really took off
Starting point is 00:44:42 and got merged to Nessar and the early 2000s and the crash after 9-11. Bad times and a lack of hope for the future fuel belief in conspiracies because people need to think that things are going to get better. And if the actual legitimate systems don't leave them with any hope of improvement in their lives, they're going to latch on to toxic nonsense
Starting point is 00:45:04 that will eventually bring them closer and closer to people like Nazis and other outwardly conspiracy theories that the only, it will take them from conspiracy theories that promise them wealth and towards conspiracy theories that promise them the mass murder of their enemies. You know? Yeah, it's almost like economic insecurity is not good for society. Society? Not good for people and extremism.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Yeah. So I remember in 2003, before the housing crisis of 2008, that a mortgage broker in Denver was attempting to get windy in me, I'm guessing that's his wife who knows how to Google, to choose a three to five year ARM for our loan. It would essentially reduce our payments from the typical loan of from 2000, 3000 a month to less than 1200, allowing us only to pay interest. While the value of the house rose enough
Starting point is 00:45:57 to refinance the loan with a new home with the increase. Okay. Why are you telling me about this? Something was filtering through both of our spirits at the time to say, heck no, dude, that exact type of loan, when the three to five year term came due, was the reason for the housing crisis and the forfeiture of the houses by people who could never afford their current home.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Okay. So that he's saying that God told him to avoid subprime mortgages. Yeah. I mean, God said, heck no. You know, that's how God talks. God says, well, he's not going to say, hell no, he's God. Obviously. Yeah. That's how I knew it was a direct quote. Okay. So here we get to the QE stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:33 There is a group that I refer to as the anti-cabalists who have tried to bring freedom to America for many years, even during that 2008 crisis. They have long tired of the evil cabal of the world's central banks and Federal Reserve pedophiles who have literally raped our children in their satanic gait along with the stealing of our money. There we go. There we go.
Starting point is 00:46:53 There's the stuff I was waiting for. 43% of the way into the book before we hit this shit, but now we're into the satanic pedophile stuff. That's good. So he starts talking about something called the World Settlement Fund, which is a conspiracy that there's like a bunch of gold that the US found in the Philippines during World War Two. That's like trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars
Starting point is 00:47:16 that is going to be released at some point to clear 147, 140 countries of their debts to the cabal and the central banks. And the cabal's keeping this money locked up. The funds were being blocked from being enacted by the Corporation of Washington, DC. That's right, folks. The District of Columbia has been a recognized corporation
Starting point is 00:47:36 to oust themselves from the constitutional laws of our land to delete the penalties of enacting the debt enslavement. The anti-cabalists have been fighting for years with a lien against the Fed from 2011 transfer of funds that the Fed stole from these countries. Okay. So, oh, actually, I'm sorry. I got the number wrong. The global collateral account has 93 quadrillion dollars
Starting point is 00:47:55 that's your money that's going to come to you. This is sovereign citizenship. Oh, good. Well, as long as they give me my quadrillion, I'm good. Yeah. Well, you'll get less than a quadrillion. There's only 93 of those, but you'll get rich. Everyone will get rich. Okay, I'm sorry. I signed up for a quadrillion. Yeah, I mean, well, I'm sorry. The globalists aren't going
Starting point is 00:48:18 to let you get that. I fucking knew it. The cabalists. The cabalists. Okay. So, he repeats the conspiracy that Nessarro was going to release all of this money, but then 9-11 happened and that stopped it. The building came down in seven seconds defying the laws of physics. Many are continued.
Starting point is 00:48:39 He's doing the jet fuel, can't melt steel, beam, shit. I mean, everyone's suddenly a fucking scientist when it comes to conspiracy theories. People that have never fucking known what NACL stands for, they're just like, wait. No, I agree. Jet fuel cannot melt steel beams, but you know who can? Bernard Montgomery Sanders. Have you heard the good news about Bernie Sanders in 9-11, Sophia?
Starting point is 00:49:08 I would love to hear the good news. Well, preach it to me, sister. You've seen Transformers, right? No. Why would I? Okay. Fault for decades. The main question that everyone has been wondering is how did Bernie Sanders get away from the grassy knoll after shooting John Fitzgerald Kennedy, right?
Starting point is 00:49:29 Tons of secret service agents, tons of cops, you know? How did he get away? That's always been my question. That's been everybody's question. The answer is that he was able to transform into a 1964 Dodge Dart and drive away from the problem. Now, over the years... That's my first car, the Dodge Dart.
Starting point is 00:49:48 A Dodge Dart. Of course, Bernie Sanders is a man of the people. He's going to transform into a Dodge Dart. It's not going to be a Lambo or something. I'm just saying I did it. Yeah. So if he was able to turn into a Dodge Dart in order to get away from the Kennedy assassination,
Starting point is 00:50:02 could he not theoretically turn into an aircraft in order to take down the World Trade Center? I say yes. Fuck. Okay. I'd never considered it. And now I'm embarrassed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Now you get well. I should never have voted for him. Yeah. So these cabalists, including George Soros, J.P. Morgan trusts, Rockefeller families, the British crown, Bill and Hillary Clinton, the Bush families, and many others have wished to keep the funds from the world
Starting point is 00:50:30 to enslave the people. In 2020, when Donald Trump placed the Fed underneath the treasury, as I mentioned above, he required the Fed to take on debt from companies struggling through the fake proliferation of the coronavirus. The president was defunding them at an alarming rate for economists
Starting point is 00:50:43 who relied on the reliability of the Fed for money flow and reduction of debt in our economy. Okay. So I guess he's saying that, oh, Trump was defunding the cabal by crashing the U.S. economy and that that was a good thing because that would force the release of all of the funds that were supposed to be given
Starting point is 00:51:06 and that would force them to institute Nessara, which will wipe everybody's debts and give everybody all of the money from this general fund, which it's funny to me because I know if you were to try to sit down with any of the people who believe this and tell them like, hey, money's not real. Like it's a concept that we have
Starting point is 00:51:23 in order to embody value and we don't have to repay these debts. We could work out a system whereby people got a basic income. Like it's possible to do that. Like you don't have to treat this like... They would not be in favor, I'd be willing to bet, of a basic income that would just give people money for existing
Starting point is 00:51:44 that would be enough for them to at least pay for their food and rent. But they... They didn't earn that money. Okay, Robert. They're for the same time. They think there's 93 quadrillion dollars that we stole from Panama during World War II.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Okay, that is different, Robert. I am entitled to that money. It's very frustrating because clearly, all of these people want basic income. They want there to be a giant pile of fake money that can make their lives easier. And the good news is that that pile of fake money exists. We could just take it from, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:19 the trillions of dollars that are stored overseas in places like Panama, actually, like the Panama Papers and shit, made clear exists. Like we could... There is a giant pile of money that shouldn't belong to the people who have access to it. And that they do things like... Yeah, every offshore account.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Every offshore account. And they do... And there are conspiracies to keep it hidden. When the Panama Papers got released, they killed a journalist reporting on it with a car bomb. Like... Yep. But nobody wants to believe that
Starting point is 00:52:51 because probably some of the rich people benefiting from it, like Donald Trump or people they like. And because it's much easier to just think that the devil's trying to keep the money from it. And to keep the money from them. And it's more fun to bring pedophilia into a fake thing than to just read the actual evidence from a real thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah, that makes me sad too, Robert. Yeah, that makes me sad. So I don't know. There's more of this nonsense. I don't think we need to get into it. I think we get the gist of this. And I don't really think much has changed with Nessara and Jessara since 2004.
Starting point is 00:53:34 It's just that... I think the slump in Nessara's popularity after the invasion of Iraq was kind of an artifact of a time when there was still an element to which reality mattered in 2004. Everyone got themselves psyched up that the invasion was going to be stopped and Bush was going to be taken out. And when he didn't, they stopped. A lot of people stopped believing the conspiracy theory
Starting point is 00:53:57 because the thing that it existed to stop had stopped. We don't live in that world anymore. QAnon is doing just fine, I think, even though Trump has lost re-election and isn't the president anymore. It just has adapted. And I guess that's pretty bleak too. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:54:14 So that's going to do it for us this episode. I do want to apologize to everybody for the book episodes, which are slap-dash and just evidence of me being a hack and a fraud, but... Your mom has cancer, shut the fuck up. Yeah, and they got an hour and a half of researched free content this week. They could deal with the 45 minutes of us going through a book and yucking it up, right? Motherfuckers. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And if they don't, I will literally take all of your guns. I'm not going to say what I'm going to do with them, but just beware and I'll return them afterwards. Oh, OK. Well, I do like having a gun with a dangerous criminal history. Yeah, also, if anybody wants to send me knives, I now have a P.O. box. Oh, shit, what's your P.O. box? I bet you'll get at least one knife if you plug your P.O. box on air.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I'm gonna. I would fucking love that. OK, hold on. You got to find your P.O. box. I got my new knives right here. Oh, this one. Look at that. Look at that texture.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I love a good knife. When I think about the fact that the death of truth has hit a terminal level that is likely irreversible and seems to be trending inevitably towards mass violence, nothing helps me get out of a funk like getting a really nice handmade knife and then staring at it while drinking in the dark for hours. I mean, I some people might find that troubling, not me. I love it. Thank you, Sophia. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:55:42 That's what we're friends. OK. OK. And my P.O. box number is. Hell yeah. 641914 and then the address is 11270 Exposition Boulevard, LA, California 90064. Hell yeah. So there it is.
Starting point is 00:56:06 And I think the only people listening through this slapdash episode at this point are going to be the true fans. So I assume, you know, no one will send you anything dangerous other than the knives you've requested. Yeah. And also, just remember, put a happy face, happy face. So I know the knife is coming from a good place. Yeah. You don't hate me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:28 A happy face so she doesn't mistake it for the knives that are death threats. Exactly. Exactly. Just so I know it's a happy knife coming from a good place. It is one of the odd things about this. One of the odd things about this reoccurring knife bit, which isn't a bit. I am constantly surrounded with knives. I love them.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Um, is people keep offering and sending me knives? One guy sent me a box of like 30 knives that this is a I'll do a photo thread about them on on Twitter or something. The way he framed it is his grandpa went senile in his old age and would just order dozens of terrible knives from the Bud K catalog, which are like the shittiest knives in the world meant for high school kids. And when he died, there were thousands of trash knives in the and they sold all of the ones that they could. And they had a box of a couple of dozen of the very worst knives that know they could not sell. And he was like, so we sent them to you. So that's so funny.
Starting point is 00:57:25 An enormous collection of the dumbest knives ever invented. One is a beautiful. It's like a folding knife, like a pocket knife, but it's like a foot and a half long. And it's got it like you shake it and it'll like wobble open with these giant blades. It's very poorly made. And on both sides of the of the of the knife is a beautiful drawing of a big titted angel. It's my favorite thing in the world. I love the big titted angel knife.
Starting point is 00:57:52 The only angels I believe in in our ones with huge titties. Yeah. And she's got two swords, too, which is pretty rad. You know, it's fucking awesome. So I guess after roughly two hours in change of talking about how the world is trending inevitably towards an era where truth is not only dead, but falsehood is effectively weaponized to lead to mass violence. The only thing I can ask of all of you is to be the big titted angel you want to see in the world,
Starting point is 00:58:24 wielding two knives. You know, I was already way ahead of you on that one. Yeah, I know I've been a big titted angel. This is the day I turned 13. Well, that's going to do it for us here at Behind the Bastards. Thank you for putting up with another book episode. We'll be back next week with something that I didn't just cobble together out of laziness. And before we end here, Sophia, do you have any pluggable?
Starting point is 00:58:53 Do you want to plug for the for the listeners of this fine podcast? Thanks so much. Um, I would love it if you guys bought my comedy album Father's Day. Delightful. And you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at TheSophiaS-O-F-I-Y-A and check out my podcasts Private Parts Unknown and 420 Day Fiancé with Miles Gray. Awesome. Check that out. That's the podcast.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Thanks, bye. What would you do if a secret cabal of the most powerful folks in the United States told you, hey, let's start a coup? Back in the 1930s, a marine named Smedley Butler was all that stood between the U.S. and fascism. I'm Ben Bullitt. I'm Alex French. And I'm Smedley Butler.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Join us for this sordid tale of ambition, treason, and what happens when evil tycoons have too much time on their hands. Listen to Let's Start a Coup on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you find your favorite shows. What if I told you that much of the forensic science you see on shows like CSI isn't based on actual science and the wrongly convicted pay a horrific price? Two death sentences and a life without parole. My youngest, I was incarcerated two days after her first birthday.
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