Bellied Up - 5 Stages Of a House Project #119

Episode Date: September 26, 2024

Our first caller is a construction worker struggling to deal with every homeowner he works with. The next caller has a wife who wants more animals, while he wants something with a little more horsepower. He also tells us how he and his wife met. The last callers are a couple of fellas working on a home project, and we go through the five stages of every home project.

Welcome to the Bellied Up Podcast. I am Charlie Barron. This is Myles, the U-Betcha guy, and we are here to serve you up another hour of Midwest conversation. Midwestern. Yeah, you get what I'm saying. I do. So Myles, I was out fishing. Where are we at?

We're at Oaks Bar and Grill here in, uh, at the Majestic... Majestic Oaks. ...Oaks Golf Course in Ham Lake, Minnesota. There we go. Like getting good at this, Charlie. So I'm going to figure it out miles. I was out fishing the other day and we were using the fell with the boat, had a live scope. Oh, okay. And I had never fished with a live scope before. Because the only time I've live scoped is ice fishing. So I've never done open water fishing with it. I didn't even know you could do it. Ice fishing.

What was it like? Well, it was a little bit. So you get out there, you put the little it's like hunt for the red. October is what it's like. Like you put that live scope in there. They'll be like, oh, that's a muskie. Oh, that's that's a bunch of walleyes there. And then they're like cast out 25 feet and you do, and then they're like, no, jig faster.

You're not, you know, you're kind of like under the gun. And I'm like, look, I get it, that's fun, that's nice, it's good, I'm not saying anything against it, but I'm just saying what I prefer is to you know relax yes exactly and I don't want my casting you know getting judged you know cuz I I'm sensitive I'm a sensitive cast over there and then you cast you like I said cast over there what casket I said over there they'll be like cast out 25 foot then I'm like I have no idea how to measure 25 foot. What's that yards?

I don't know. Well, it's 25 divided by 3 8 Anyways points to a point. Yeah, but these guys I mean they're good at it and I get it and whatever But when I go fishing what I like to do I want to do a fishing show called the fish finders words You just go out with no fish finders and you never catch anything. Yeah. Just hang out. Yeah.

I don't know. I mean, for me, I'm just kind of, uh, I don't like the, I don't like the, the machinery in there. The one thing that was cool doing an ice fishing. So we were fishing for crappie. So they, you know, travel in the schools of crock crappie. And, uh, Ryan works for me. He had a buddy who's a guide. So we went out with him and he had one of those and he drill a hole and he'd stick it in there and he'd spin around and

then he would see it and he would go 30 feet that way. And so we would take our, uh, augers and our vex laws and sprint over there, drill a hole as fast as we could, drop our effects, or drop our shit in. And then we'd catch a crappie. We'd buy the time we pull that up and whatever, they would move. So then he would be like, over there. And so then we'd run over there. I bet if you were just watching us, you were like, these guys are running around like chickens with their head cut off, but it was actually very fun. It was active fishing, which was fun. Yeah, no, I get it. That is, I don't know if you're a purist, if you love that type of ice fishing.

But it was fun to do. You know, ice fishing might be a little bit different because you're moving. But when you're in a boat and you're like, like you're putting around and you're like, oh, there's a musky, you know, cast there. And then you cast at it and you're like not getting it. And these guys cast for muskies all the time, so if you're like 10 feet off, they're like, how about 10 feet less next time, you know,

and then you do it and you're there. So anyways, I just, that was just one of the things. No, I'm not trying to dig into the guides out there, cause you know, that's the business. It is good to put people on there because you know that's the business. It's good to put people on fish you know but I just I prefer to just not think and try very hard fishing. You're not out there necessarily to catch your limit you're out there to catch a buzz on life.

It's kind of it that's kind of it and you know if I know there's fish there I'm gonna be casting but if I'm not if I'm casting so much I'm not drinking and you know, then then it's a whole different fishing dynamic. I tell you what though. I was sweating Were you I was sucking high tip by the end of that Because you're in full snow gear Snow the snow bibs the jacket whatever by the end. I had the jacket off. My cap was off. I was yeah That's the thing with ice fishing. You can really bundle up and then it's like a sauna in there.

It's like the opposite effect, you're like, now I'm too hot. It's kind of like driving in the winter with your winter coat on and it's cold out and then you crank up the heat and then it's too hot and it's just back and forth. Then you got the AC going. You got a window cracked with the heat on. Oh yeah, That's efficient. Yeah. Well, miles. Did you catch anything? Oh yeah. Caught a lot of, I mean, it was nice. We had a record day, but you hate it. We did have a record. No, I mean, we caught so many walls. It's not that I hated it. It's just, it feels,

it feels like a little bit like cheating. Yeah you know, I know you mean coming coming from is it your dad in back of your mind telling you like you don't need all that shit My dad my dad kind of likes it. Oh, actually. Yeah, he's like, oh look at this You get the wall eyes right here. I feel like he hates that but he's No, he's gotten soft in his old age. I don't I don't know what it is He's actually always been into the electronics. Like I remember as a kid, he was trying to get me to, you know, be better at the computer. He's like, this will be the future. I was like, you don't know what you're talking about. So anyway, usually it's the other way around. I know, right? Yeah. My dad said tech embracing of the technology. I like that. Mr. Barron's tech wizard. Yeah. Is he still

type like this or does he go, you know, home role? He's a full, full hander on the, on the, on the, on the typing. So I feel like sometimes the way you talk, you're older than your dad. After hearing that information, I know, I know. I don't know what it is. Yeah. Honestly, I think it's, I'm not good at video games. Are you guys good at video games? Everybody. I feel like I missed out on a whole like culture shift. You spent way too much time outside as a kid. You're a loser. Oh, I stopped playing video.

I stopped playing video games after GoldenEye because I wasn't good. Yeah. And then shooting first person shooter games terrible at them. Yeah. I play like Madden pretty decent. Yeah. I haven't played Madden since Sega Genesis since Madden 1. Pretty much.

Yeah. Since John Madden was on the cover, you haven't played. He's not on the cover anymore. What do you mean? You really have been out of the game, huh? I guess so he was on the what 25th anniversary or something wasn't it? Yeah, well anyways, let's get this podcast going I gotta go meet with my buddies in the Amish camp down the road after Thank you for joining Let's do it. Let's do it.

Let's do it. Hey, I never thought I'd get on. No way. Here you are. Hi, my name's Isaac Lopez. You said Alex? Isaac Lopez from Beruthers, California. Okay, well what do you wanna get off your chest today, man?

Well, I work in construction, and the most annoying thing about working in construction is the homeowners. Are you a general contractor? My dad is. I worked for my dad actually. That's another thing. But yeah, these homeowners, they're crazy. Well, I hate to break it to you, but the number one thing that homeowners hate is general contractors. That is true. That is true. So I think you guys are a match made in heaven. What do you hate about homeowners?

We go to these job sites and we mainly do finished carpentry. And we go at the very end of the job and they have a walkthrough where they put like blue tape on anything that needs fixed. And what these people will do is mark up everything that needs fixed. We'll fix it multiple times. And no matter how good we get it. It's never good enough So why don't you just do it right the first time? Oh Well, well that's the thing sometimes they change their mind so we we put in some like beans and bake boards and different things and they'll say, Oh, we don't like that style.

Tear it out. Or, and then they don't want to pay for it because they don't like the look after we install it. So we'll have to tear it out and reinstall it. And it's very annoying. I was going to say, well, what are you guys complaining about? You're going to upcharge them anyways. So, but if they're not, if they don't want to pay, I get it. I get it. That's frustrating. So where is the disconnect? Why don't you guys go,

are you sure? Because I don't want to do this if you're not sure. And maybe pull up a photo online and just be like, this is what it's going to look like. Well, that's we've we've done that before. It's it's these homeowners. They say we show them pictures. They show us pictures. We say, is this exactly what you want? And then we install it. And we have this one guy.

We told him multiple times, are you sure you want this? This won't look good at all. We've done this many times. Like, are you sure you want this? He's like look good at all. We've done this many a times. Like you sure you want this? He's like, yes, yes. We install it. We had to take it out three or four times. And then he ended up suing the company because we did it wrong and he didn't like it and we weren't going to pay for it. And we're talking to pay for it. So yeah. So why do you guys do this in the first place? Sounds terrible. You should be a lawyer. You

make a lot more money suing people like yourself. I don't got the brains for that. I barely speak through high school. I got it. Got it. Got a high school diploma. That's probably why I work in construction. But yeah, I was kind of bored into this. My dad being the general contractor and, and so he's a really good contractor, but it's just homeowners, which we're slowly trying to get out of, out of the home owners and go for commercial, you know, for that reason. They don't care. Don't you have like a contract where you write it up with the homeowner on these things and then they sign off on it and then it contracts a contract? I think so. I just, I'm the manual labor guy.

That's way above his pay grade, Charlie, we're talking to the wrong family member. You're talking to a 19 year old from California. So are you the typical bosses kid? You show up when you want to do whatever you want. You, when someone pisses you off, you look at them and say, do you know who my dad is? Keep in mind, you're talking to a boss's kid right now, so he'll know if you're lying. No, no. I'm not, but I have eight siblings,

but my older brother is like that. Eight siblings? He's the typical boss, yes sir. Catholic? I'm kinda like you, Charlie. Catholic, Mormon, homeschooling? Christian, oh. Okay.

Wow, non-denominee, huh? We are homeschooling Christian. Oh, wow. Non-denominated. We are, we are homeschooled now. I went to public school my whole life, but the, the like the last four or five kids, uh, we've been homeschooling. So. Well, yeah, because the first, that's cause the first four kids barely squeaked through high school and had to figure something else out. Yeah. But yeah, my brother's like that. He, he walks, he'll go around the job site and just walking around. He loves to talk to the homeowners and tell them everything about their house. We, I just pop on my earbuds, pop on the belly up podcast and just do my thing. You know? Yeah. I like that. But someone's

going to talk to the homeowners. You know, it seems like you guys don't like them. So maybe his job isn't as easy as you think. Yeah, it's pretty easy. I've had to talk to a couple of homeowners. I don't like talking to the people because I just don't like talking to people that I don't know. Really? You know, there's more to myself guy. Let me give you a little. Usually, go ahead. I was just saying, let me give you a little solution here. The next time you got a situation where you're doing the finish and whatnot,

all the finish work, people will find the smallest problems in anything. You know, that's sort of what you're doing. So before you finish up, go over to the toilet and break it with a bleaking toilet. They're gonna be calling a plumber and they're gonna be happy with your work. Yeah. So.

Yeah, mess something else up that you don't have to fix. Then they won't even notice the small detail on your project. There you go, Charlie. Yeah, go in the basement, find some wires, throw some water on it, all right? And you'll be out and then it's the electrician's problem There's no lights in the whole place. They can't even see your shoddy craftsmanship. Anyway, you see you see what we're doing here We're giving you action items solutions. That's why you call into the belly to podcast a

little vandalism can go a long way That's great advice. Yeah. I have to try that sometime. What are some other things that you got a bone to pick with homeowners? What else do you not like? Oh, just their overall state. They like to come around and tell me how to do my job. You know, like I know how to do it. I have my earbuds in. They'll come up and try to talk to me and be like, Hey, so what are you doing here?

And I'll explain it to them. And then they're like, so how are you doing this? And I'll explain to it. And then they'll try to tell me how to do my job. It's just like, OK, just leave me alone. You know, you know, now you got to remember that this home is a big deal to them. They're spending a lot of money. They may be living in that thing forever. Do you own? Oh, yeah. Do you live in an apartment?

You got a house yourself? What's what's your situation? No, I actually live with my parents. My dad built our house. It's a two story house, really nice house. But yeah, so he built it all himself before I was at working age. So I was like three ish. Are you also a homeschool teacher for the young ones? Then if you're living at home, you do teach math or something. I teach them by telling them not what to do in life. You know, all the mistakes I've made and mistakes my brother has made, you know, my brother's made a lot of mistakes.

And that's a good point, Charlie. They should have more. They should have a class in high school of just what not to do. Just have people who've messed up their life. Yeah. Like common sense. What not to do one on one. What's the biggest? What's the biggest? What's the biggest mistake that you would teach your younger siblings not to do? Not to get into any relationships before the age of 16 to 18. 16 to 18 is a no-go window for relationships. What happened? Are you a father? No, not when you ship. That's, that's when you should start. Oh, so you are regretting having like a 14 year old relationship. Oh yeah, I do. Do you have a child?

No, no, I'm not that stupid. I may be a little stupid. I'm not that stupid. Yeah. I almost did once. That's a different story. We won't go into that. He's 19. He's like that 14 year old girl that when we were in eighth grade, she broke my heart and I'll never be the same again. Oh yeah. Just so you know, when you get to be our age, you won't even remember what you did at 14 years old. So I wouldn't worry about it. Well, that's the thing. It was many of those, but I go to church and it was all, I'm like

the same fellowship of churches. You have to see that person and then there's this stuff like weird vibe, you know? same fellowship of churches. You have to see that person and then there's this stuff like weird vibe you know. So don't date within your church. Yeah, yeah. Date like out of state somewhere. He's like, God it was the worst. I'd go to church, I'd go up for communion and have this awkward look with three of my ex-girlfriends on the way back to the pew God, that's just a deal. That's a it's a day-runner all my exes live with Jesus Exes are in row number three Well It you're doing the Lord's work, man. You really are keep teaching your siblings, right? And thank you for calling in and we hope these homeowners won't Lord's work man you really are keep teaching your siblings right and thank

you for calling in and we hope these homeowners won't. I also got one more thing. Yeah. I also got one more thing yeah so I live in California and I don't know if you guys know like California drivers you guys see, are any moving out there? I lived out there for a little bit. They're not good. Oh yeah. Oh, they're horrible. So, so I live here in like the central Valley where all the agriculture is out in the country. So that's, it's not too bad. So, but you go in the city and like it barely starts to sprinkle and people just are crazy.

They don't know how to drive. They drive like 20 under the speed limit. They're going super slow acting like they're going to flip out and it's just play in too much traffic. You know, don't go into the city. Yeah. Why do you have to go? Oh, I suppose. Just carpool with someone, then you don't even have to worry about it. You got like eight siblings that all work for the company. Yeah. Well, my brother's been like eight, right. So I I'm not going to write with him.

And me and my dad usually work at different job sites. So I'm usually the one driving and I drive with a trailer too. That would be a disaster. So you know, driving in California city with trying to parallel park a trailer. There's nowhere you could park with them. No, although in this, by the way, I'm the best. I'm the best trailer backer up for ever. Oh, well we're going to need to see video evidence. They should have an Olympics for that. Yeah, they do. They do. You can Google it. I've seen it and I would like to see that. I would love to see video evidence of you whistling a trailer back in between

two compact cars. I want to see you take one into LA and parallel park it. I would, that's what I will know on a rainy day. Ooh, there's a challenge right there. I'd like to take. All right. Well, thanks for calling in my guy. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for the advice. I'll make sure to crack a couple of toilets and blow up a house or something. Now we're cooking with gas. That's perfect. That would be a good way to do it.

Oh yeah, turn the gas on, and drop a lighter or something. Just make sure no one's in the house that's alive. Don't do that. All right, man, thanks for calling in. Maybe just the homeowners in the house. No, no. We can't advocate murder on this podcast. This is not

a true crime podcast. Don't do that. All right. We'll see you later. And if we had a homeowner call in, they would go, I go in there and I tell them to do this, this and this. And then they do something completely different and I have to make them redo it. Now, as someone who is in construction, who also built a home, do you have like, you know, I don't know. I feel like I understood that there is that relationship. So I tried to like, be like, I know that this is not what was on the plan, but here's a change order. I'm sorry. You know, I tried to be apologetic about it at least when it did happen, but it's unavoidable. You start putting stuff together, you realize ads shouldn't be like that. No, that was a mistake. You know, I'll tell you

a worse idea is when you try to save money, cut out the contractor and kind of do it yourself. How's that going for you? I got two doors. Uh, I don't have any place to put them, but I over-ordered. You know? So if anyone needs a door, buy, sell, and trade. Yeah, but you never know, you might need a door. Put it in the garage. Make a table out of it. Yeah, someday you're gonna be like,

thank God I ordered extra doors. Well, where do you think it's sitting right now? Right in the garage. I believe it. Just waiting. All right, should we do another call? Let's do it. Oh, hey guys, this is Andrew, giving you guys a call from Pennsylvania.

Andrew in Pennsylvania. Thanks for coming on the deal, my guy. What's your rant? What's on your mind? I recently switched jobs. I'm now working as a sales rep for a chip company, driving trucks around, delivering stuff to stores, right? Haven't been there too long. Finally got on my own route. Um, but man, I, on my days off I have a, uh, a guy that covers the route while I'm off and he doesn't know what the

heck he's doing at all. And I've been there less time than him. So, um, I just needed help to figure out how the heck do I go about, uh, correcting his errors. Get them fired. I think plant a gun in the trunk, plant a gun in the truck. And while he's out on the route, call the police, tell him there's a gun under the truck. He'll be fired and you'll be good. Make sure you don't leave prints on the guns.

He's got to work Saturday, Sunday, Charlie. Now they'll hire someone else. Now, that is true. Be prepared for some OT payment. That's very fair, you know? So the way my route works, I'm off Tuesdays, Wednesdays. So, oh, man, planning a gun on the truck. That's a good idea.

What should I plant? Do you think I have a few? But the problem is, is going to be your cond. It's a terrible advice, Charlie. Oh the problem is it's going to be your condom. It's a terrible advice, Charlie. Oh, that is true. No, not not yet. It's just we came to a little roadblock in the plant.

Get yourself a file from the hardware store. Find the serial code and just file that sucker off. All right. What's your problem? I got a few of those in the garage. There you go. What's your next problem? that would be a problem. I got a few of those in the garage. There you go. What's your next problem? Next problem. All right. Well, that sounds good.

I'm going to roll with that for my first problem. Second problem. So we recently got a house about, oh man, what, like maybe a month or two ago now? You know, we just got moved in. We're getting settled and everything. Um, and the, uh, the wife wants to start acquiring all these things for the house. She wants to get all these animals and stuff for the house. And I'm just trying to be practical and I just want to race cars.

Well, hold on. You guys are meant to be. I have no idea what that means. What kind of animals, live animals? We talking taxidermy. What are we? Or just cats? Oh, no, we're talking full, full blown live animals. She's already got quite a few. No, we're trying to have a little bit of a farm here, I guess. Can you be more specific with the animals? Three cats. We have, um, Brigham, what do we have? Oh my God. We have a rabbit. We have, we've now acquired three chickens and now she just got nine more chicks and she wants to get pigs and goats. Do you live on a farm or is this in town? No, it's just outside of town. We have about a, it's like an acre of land. So it's not very big, obviously. So it's a lot for a little space. You know what I mean?

He's gonna have to start building high rises for all the chickens and pigs. You know, he just ran out of room. So he just started building up. Yeah, you do that. Pigs got a tree house in the back. It's just a big barn tower, huh? Is she going to let you kill the chickens for food?

Or are these eggs? You know, it's crazy. So the chicken she has now is from her parents. Her dad recently passed. So the chickens that she has now are sentimental. However, the new batch of chicks we got, the nine of them, once they stop laying, we're probably going to end up butchering them. He's fine with that. She actually will do it herself. She likes doing it. Yeah. You're licking your chops. Like let's go. I don't, I don't see any problem

with the chickens. I just think that that's saving you money on the grocery bill. So how did you find a gal that likes to put your chickens is what I want to know. I'll tell you man. Tinder. I got really lucky man. I just rolled the dice on Tinder first day of premium. I just bought it. She was the first girl I matched with on Tinder premium and it's been a rest of history. You know, what picture made you swipe right on that? Did you have a cock? Oh, no. Yeah.

No, not quite. Oh man. There was one with her in cowgirl boots in the tree. And I said, Oh heck. And I got a, I got to hit this girl up. Let's hope she likes me. Also say, Oh heck. I did. I liked that. I was trying to keep it PD for you guys. Yeah. You didn't even get your money's worth on Tinder premium.

You did one swipe and then you know, I, I, I swiped, you know, we, we hit it off. You know, I had another date that day. That girl ended up bailing. So I hit her up and we went on a date and I've been seeing her every day since. Do you know? No, I didn't get any money out of thinner premium. I should got a refund. I know you should have sent a strongly worded email to them and said it works too good. I didn't get my money's worth. Um, does your, it works. It works. Does your gal know that she was your second choice? She does. Okay. Good. She does. I did tell her that it was a little while after dating before I told her it, I was feeling confident and I probably shouldn't have said anything. Yeah.

How'd that go? Not too good. She was, she was a little upset for a bit, but you know, she got over it. It took out for a nice dinner. We, you know, we made it work. She got over it. She's still with me. So we're all right. He brought home a new chicken and she was, she just forgot all about it. What's your exactly? Well, I let her get the past, you know, that, that, that, that helped out quite a bit. Smart. What's the, what's the biggest problem animal that you got? I don't think you should have a pig on an acre of land. biggest problem animal that you got. I don't think you should have a pig on an acre of land. I know pigs from what I've heard, pigs are pretty destructive. So I'm trying to vote against pigs.

Oh man. Biggest problem we have right now, at least with the rabbit, one time the rabbit got, well, when we first got the rabbit in our apartment, we don't live there anymore. We got the house now, but the rabbit, we initially let it out of its pen and it started chewing everything. It ended up chewing the wires to our dishwasher and it broke the dishwasher because it got a little, you know, got a little curious behind there.

I'm surprised you didn't have hot some pepper that night. You chew those. Why? Those are live wires. Yeah, they were. He got a little zap, but he was fine after that. He's still alive. Yeah. When he walks, when he hops, he kind of goes to the left a little bit now, but you know, little bit just like your race car to turn left. Tell us about your race car.

You're turning a little less. What I did not expect to hear that you have live animals, but instead you want to race car, walk us through it. Do you race now? What's where you want to get into it? So I'd like to get into it. I think that'd be pretty cool. I do a simulator racing on my computer right now. It's not my brain in the USA. Like with like a, are you, are you doing like, you have a full SIM set up with an actual steering wheel or are you just steering with the up, down, left, right arrows? Cause driving a car is a little different than that.

No, I got a, I have a whole wheel and then set up up there right now. So I think it'd be kind of cool to just buy some beater car and you know, just take it up to the tracks and go racing. I think it'd be fun. I think it's practical. Yeah. I mean, it's gotta be just as expensive as buying a SIM set up. Aren't those expensive? Oh yeah. I dropped a couple grand on my setup for sure. Probably should have funneled that into a race car. But you know, I figured a SIM might be a good way to start. You know, I don't have to leave the house. True. Plus with all the animals that you're about to get, it's a lot of work.

You're going to be working from sun up to sun down to keep everything alive. Yeah, you're a farmer now. I know. I am a farmer now. It's crazy. I never thought I'd see the day where I'd have so many freaking animals.

It's crazy. Well, what are the chances you're actually going to get this race car and those animals are going to go away? Oh, the wife's always going to win. I haven't been married that long, but I've learned already that I'm not going to win. The wife's always going to win. So the chances are slim to none. I think I'm going to be sim racing forever.

Well, it sounds like acceptance is the key. It's also a lot safer. It is. Yeah. Yeah. You can't put happiness. It's also a lot safer. It is. Yeah. Yeah. You can't put yourself in a wheelchair behind a SIM thing. I mean, if you drink enough, I suppose it's possible, but well, good for you, my guy. Congratulations on that beautiful new farm and that very expensive video game.

Your wife let you get. Oh, absolutely. I appreciate that. Where are you guys drinking at today? We're in ham Lake, Minnesota. Where are you at? Oh, nice. Oh yeah. You're in Pennsylvania. We're in a wall, Pennsylvania. Yeah. Northern PA up in the Hills, you know, about a probably about what? Two hours north of Philly now. Are you, are you close to van Wirt? Oh no, that's Ohio. The van Wirt nevermind. Yeah. That's, that's Ohio. The van works. Never mind.

Yeah, that's yeah, that's out past pencil. Tucky. That's a bit further than us. Okay. Well, thanks for calling in my guy. We appreciate you. I appreciate the help. I'm going to take that advice. All right.

Yep. Remember to file off that serial number. That's very important. All right. Yep. Remember to file off that serial number. That's very important. All right. All right. My guy. Real numbers coming off. Absolutely. Watch out for deer now. All right. You too. And the feds.

But by you know, and now we should do a PSA, folks, you really shouldn't file off any serial numbers on your firearms. That is a federal offense. It can land you in prison for a long, long time. Everything. So, can planting evidence, Charlie. Yes, that's true. You had two felonies in that one call.

Pretty soon you're gonna be on house arrest with an ankle bracelet. Just wanna let you guys know that was a joke. It was meant in sarcasm. Whether the caller knows that or not, he seemed like a smart enough guy. Yeah. He's from Pennsylvania.

You know what, Charlie? What's that, Miles? Insurance companies don't always play nice. I don't know if you knew that or not. They like to dink around, but Nicolet Law, those guys, they don't mess around. No, they don't. I don't think, do you know that about Nicolet?

If I know anything about them, they don't mess around. Well, I know that now that you told me. They're not messing around at all. Yeah, and they've been helping folks across the Midwest for years. North Dakota, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, you name it. South Dakota. And here's the kicker, Charlie.

They win, and they win, or you don't pay. Really? Yeah, imagine if pull tabs were like that. I'd sign up for pull tabs every day of the week. That would, if they win or you don't pay, that's fantastic. Imagine just getting pull tabs, you don't win, you don't, no money off your back. Nikolay should start doing pull tabs.

They would go bankrupt so fast. But they win every time, so they don't have to worry about it, Charlie. That's true. Someone's gotta lose. Yeah, true. Insurance companies. Insurance companies. So you know that Someone's got to lose. Yeah, true. Insurance company insurance companies. So you know that they're fighting for you, Charlie, and they're not just there to make

a buck because if they don't win, you don't pay. So guys, if you're injured, call Nicolay law at one eight five five Nicolay or visit nicolaylaw.com to learn more. And you can get yourself a lawyer who doesn't dink around. They don't mess around. They get it done. Get it done. Charlie tailgate season is right around or it's here actually. Yeah, it's in it. And I got a few questions for you. Shoot. If you are at a tailgate and you got a option between a hot dog or a brat, what do you choose? If you got an option between a brat and a burger, what do you choose? If you got between a brat and potato salad that your grandma made, which one are you choosing? Potato salad guilt. Okay.

Smart. If you add between pay potato salad and snicker salad. What is still potato salad? If my grandma made it, if not, I would have made a snicker salad. Then I go snicker salad. OK. And I probably to be honest, I'd probably pick out the snickers out the salad. I'm one of those guys. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm terrible. I know. Strange. I'm admitting bad things here. Now, Charlie, if you got between snicker salad that your grandma made

or a chocolate shake glass of tippy cow, which one are you choosing? It's close, but miles I'm choosing the tippy cow. Sorry grandma, but it's so good. And if I tip some of this and grandma Sue's glass, she'll get it. She'll get it. She'll understand. So guys, for your tailgate, if you want to have everyone having a good time if you want to have everyone having a good time, you got to pick up some chocolate shake to be cow, just like Charlie and I got here at the bar and guys, they're going to love it. So tipping on back at the tailgate to the home back to the tippy cow.

What up? I'm Adam and Conan. Coincidentally, you just picked up at the end of our project. We've been replacing a garage door. Okay. You guys seem like you're in a good mood. That's gotta be a good sign. Dude, well, it's finally over. We've been fighting the stupid, like the big old spring, the dangerous spring that everyone talks about. And. And, uh, I mean, we got all, we got all the pants, we got all the pants placed and it's, it's looking good and it goes up and down into garage door sheds. So congratulations. Well, let us know. How did it go? Like you, you seem pretty like you were getting mad at it at some point. Let us hear, let it all out. What happened?

Well, so it started off with my buddy getting me get some shit from his H.O.A. And he's like, well, you know, we got to replace this garage door so we don't get fined. And by the end of October. So he bought a kit from Lowe's and we came over on a Thursday night after work. We took the whole garage door apart. We realized we were in way over our head. And quite literally, well, we're like whole garage show apart and we realized we were in way over our heads. And quite literally, we were like, shit better be a, yeah, quite literally. And we were, we were like, we're making a weekend deal. So we came in this morning and I was like, well, this, this was perfect timing. Cause like, we had a podcast and looking for ramps and boy, do we have something

to talk about. So put you on the background and we actually just load up all the stuff to take off the dumps. So you, you took it apart on Thursday. So for two days he's what did you put up a tarp or something overnight? What happened? No, we jimm Jimmy the panels back in place. So it was like the garage door was closed. So, but someone could have just donkey kicked it in and they'd have been in the house. Well, the garage door is locked, but I suppose yeah. Um, you know, they, they didn't take any of our nice two platforms. I tell you

is your buddy there with you? He is. Should I put you on speakerphone? Yeah. Get them on the line. I need to talk to him about his HOA. All right here. Can you hear us? Hey, so you got a letter from your HOA. How do you feel about HOA? I have mixed feelings about them because for our HOA, normally it's fine. It's fine until apparently you have a dent in your garage door and they tell you being like, Hey, even though there's a dent in your garage door, because the driveways are small, you still have to replace that. Otherwise you're going to get fine.

Our HOA is fine because they don't care about the front yard because they take care of all that. But I've heard some shitty things about other HOAs where they care about like how tall your grass is and you had to like mow on the right day or whatever. Thankfully we don't have to deal with that. But yeah, it's got us up and down. Got us up and down. Then I mean like the garage. Yeah. So why is there, why was there a dent in your garage door? Fast home homeowners. We got this house like less than a year ago and there was a dent when we moved in and stuff and like our inspector told us about it and we're like, Oh, it'll be fine.

It's a small driveway. It's whatever. I don't care about cosmetic damage. I didn't think it would be an issue until literally the HOA emailed everybody like a month or so ago being like, Hey, by the way, if you're getting this email, because there's a dent in your garage door and you have to get it replaced. How many books you got for it? Oh yeah. The quote we got from the H.O.A. from like their people, if you will, who they

recommended, um, was $1,100. And I was like, huh, in this economy? No, you did it for once in a while. Yeah, we got the kit for 380 and then the final part with the spring. We couldn't get done ourselves. We had a technician come out and we were like, well, how much is this going to cost from you? Because if it's cheap enough, I'll just have you do this little part. And they originally said two 99. And I was like, I can't do that. And then Adam here talked him down to a hundred and I was like, let's do it. And they were able

to take care of it. No problem. So all in all, it costs us about 40, 480 bucks to get everything done. So, so Charlie, it sounds like they went through the five stages of doing a home project. It absolutely does. So you guys tell us if we're right or wrong on this stage one, you realize you got to do a home project and you're like, dude, I got this. No problem. I don't need to pay that guy an extra 500 bucks or something. I could do myself. I'm going to save so much money because contrary to popular belief, time is not money. This is going to take me so long, but I'm saving my stage two. I'm weighing over my fucking head. Literally, because it's a garage door.

So now you've you've taken it apart. You realize it's not as simple and you maybe should have called someone to do it. Correct. But at that point, you've dug in too far. So now stage three, go back to the hardware store. Well, yeah, go back to hardware store, get more stuff and then start cracking a few beers. And that's when I like to call this stage the creative problem solving stage. You get some beers flowing.

We forgot that we skipped that step. You skipped that. That's the most important step. You guys could both be's the most important step. You guys could both be without an eye right now. What if someone got hurt? Yeah, someone's going to get hurt. But that's, you know, that's just that's why you wear your hard hat.

And at that stage, Charlie, that's when everything goes. You're like, well, if we take a crowbar and crank on this, this might fix that problem. All goes. Yeah. And then stage four, Charlie, is you just resort to YouTube. Oh yeah. Well, YouTube, I mean, see, they did. How many YouTube videos did it take? It took us two. We were trying to figure out how the spring works and the technicians on

the way, we've got a free quote. So I was watching some YouTube trying to figure out like, well, what would it take? And apparently need these, these little rods to like have enough leverage to counter the spring and get it going. So I was about two YouTube videos to figure out we were in over our head. That's actually pretty good though. That's not too bad. And then stage five is what I call the, see that wasn't so bad. Where you just completely, you just get amnesia from the past three days.

Kind of similar, they say when you have a kid, that your mind blacks out child labor so that you want to have kids again. This stage you black out all of the painful process so that you want to do a project again. Well, well said mouse and really put a bow on that. Yeah. And it's at that point, you know, it might be two days later like you boys, but you forget that the whole process happened and you're like, that was fun. We learned a lot, even though you guys were literally ready to murder each other in the middle there. And I got to inquire about this.

How many garage doors had dents in them that the HOA had to send out a mass email saying all of you with dented garage doors? It's not that common to dent a garage door. I feel like there's a conspiracy on behalf of the HOA that one of the guys, specifically the garage door repairman, was going out there denting it, and there's a kickback to the HOA.

I think you guys have a lawsuit on your hands. Call Nikolay law. Call Nikolay law. Is this where, yeah, this is where Nikolay gets involved. So I got a question for you boys. I feel like every group has one guy who's kind of the naysayer that's usually murmuring things like, Oh, we see we should have called someone, you know, this and that was there one of those guys in your group and if so identify them

now. I wouldn't classify myself as a nace there. I get paranoid about somebody dying. Oh, so you're the same guy. Oh, I gotta get this done. I didn't know that OSHA came to two home projects like that. Is that what you guys call them? Osha? Osha, Oshay, what's the difference man? It technically would be like, Opsha. What'd you say it technically be what? I was thinking like, you know, Osha, Oshay, but technically Oshay would be more fitting for the situation. Oshay.

Oshay. So you were the Opshaw. Who was the foreman? Who was the guy pretending like he knew what he was doing even though he was just Googling it? I would say that our foreman wasn't around. I mean, that just sounds like every other job site. He's sitting in the truck with the AC on.

He's sitting in the truck with the AC on. He's sitting in the truck with the AC on. I don't know, they're, they technically you can classify me as the foreman maybe. I have all the tools for the job. That's true. That's where I, that's where I was. You are not the foreman. You're the guy who got invited because they want to borrow all your tools. I hate to break it to you.

There is. Oh, to break it to you. There is. Then they just told you, you can be the foreman so that you brought all your tools over. I hate to break it to you. Yeah. There's two guys who have like one guy is the guy who owns the tools and the other guy is the guy who actually kind of knows more than all the other guys. You know, he had a dad who like, you know, smacked them around, showed him how to fix a truck once. Just batted him around a little bit. Anyway. So which one of you guys has a rocky relationship with their dad? Well, I don't know. Well, you're all getting to learn more about each other

today. That's the important thing. Oh, gosh. Amen to that. It's been an adventure. It'll go down in the books. Good for you guys. How are you celebrating now?

I think we said ice cream. We're going to get the right thing out there. Maybe a beer when I get there. Hey, you guys want to maybe swing through toody fruity after we do this garage door? Let's get delicious, creamy treats after this. What do you guys think? You guys made at a church raffle. What the hell are you guys Mormon? I mean, it's three. I'll take it.

Hey, also, maybe you guys could if if this is a mass email, now that you guys know how to do it, just go around and undercut what the HOA said instead of doing 1100, do it for 900 bucks. You guys could be profiting off the whole neighborhood. Yes, yes. And then when they try to go after you, you can sue them again for poor business, uh, monopolizing it's monopoly, right? Something.

We're going to be keeping Nick away in business. Yeah. I don't even know if they just, someone's got to get injured before you call. So someone go mess with that spring and lose an eye and someone get on a ladder and someone else trip. And yeah, we got a ladder. The ocean guy is just sweating after we said that. Like, please don't.

Well, we're glad that it worked out. The garage door is going up and down. Congratulations, you guys. You deserve that sweet treat. Thank you. Yeah. I'm so happy you guys picked up, too. I've been trying to call in, and normally I'm always working

while you guys are taking callers. But hey, finally a weekend. Thank you guys. You guys do more. Yeah, you guys go down while you guys are taking collars, but hey, finally a weekend. Thank you guys. You guys do more. Yeah, you guys go down and you guys each split a milkshake together. You earned it. Two straws?

Yeah, two straws or one if you're already swapping spit. You guys take care now and watch out for that spring. All right. And you guys watch out for deer. All right. We'll see you soon Good good guys guys how many you because you've been doing some renovations Yeah, you gone through the five stages. I've gone through the five There's also an alternate fifth stage that you just punt on the whole thing and call someone after all well Then you've you've done more damage than good on that. Yeah, I tried doing

You know when you when you're taking down a tree you really want to know what you're doing. I'll just tell you that much Yeah, I would say so yeah, you really want to know where it's dropping Did did you have a tree drop on something that it shouldn't know? Well, it was going the wrong way for a second there, but a little fast action with the chainsaw And a rope fixed that did you it was going towards your house A car actually and it's not the point. Would you park a car there? Well, it's not where we're supposed to drop Anyways you live and you learn and other times with trees you don't so You gotta be careful for them. They drop on you. That was it

Now you know what not to do exactly. Yeah. Yeah, you'll do it again. Yeah. Well Charles That was another good episode of the bellied up podcast. Someone call it great. Someone call it great. We're going to do that. You know, all right. That was another great episode of the bellied up podcast. If I do say so myself and Charlie, we got to remind the listeners that they can get the bellied up ditch chickens hat that I got on at all. You bet you. Oh, yes. It's a classic cat. Look at that. Oh my gosh. Very comfortable. One of them foam ones. I've seen you wear it a few times. You know what? My ditch chickens hat is the most stolen

hat that I've had. You keep giving me new ditch chickens heads. I know you're going to put us out of business. My friend, my friends keep stealing them. So that's good. Yeah. It's a good sign. And I keep stealing yours every, every time I've walked away that I was, I wasn't going to ask, but thank you. So guys go check it out. Oh, you bet you.com. You can also check out Charlie's merch at two men to walk minute.com or Charlie Barron's.com. Either one. Okay. Go check it out guys. And thanks for tuning in. As always, Charlie, what do they need to do?

Tip your bartender. See you next one. See you guys.