Bellied Up - Blue Collar Vs. White Collar #166

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

We’re at Kegel’s Inn in West Allis, WI! Our first caller’s (10:52) sister wants to date his best friend, and he shares a wild story about what’s been going on—we might have even blown his mind with the facts. Then, our next caller (35:16) is starting a new white-collar job and asks: how can you really tell if you have a blue-collar job or a white-collar job?(0:00) Intro(10:52) Caller’s sister wants to date his best friend — and his story takes a wild turn(35:16) White-collar vs. blue-collar — how do you know which job you really have?

Welcome to the bellied-up podcast, ladies and gentlemen. I am your host, Charlie Bairns. I'm here with my good friend, my companion, my occasional lover, Miles, that you bet you guy. And it's football season, Miles. It is. Green Bay Packers, baby. We got the Packers doing hot. We got the Brewers doing hot, man.

How do you do hot? Oh, you do hot, baby. We don't even need the ascertain from preseason what's going. on we got golden our new wide receiver first round draft pick see some of those catches miles unreal and uh you know love's going to have a good year i can feel it already we got a running game um and the lions who were cranking in the nFC well their offensive coordinator went uh what uh chicago they're defensive to the jets i mean how is it you become a great team and then you dismay handle it you know money talks money talks but that's fine to the packers after they won the super

ball in like 2010 or whatever it's been a long strange trip it's been i don't know miles we've had a lot uh ups and down since then okay and it was 2011 technically 2010 season but you know i okay so here we go. This is the new segment I like to call Charlie Barron's Packer Preview. What's going to happen this year? If you are, if you have a crystal ball in front of you, Charlie, how's the season going to go? I'm going to tell you guys the same thing I said back in 2010. Okay. All right. 2010. I was in Las Vegas when the Badgers, Wisconsin Badgers were playing UNLV. I was

having a good run at the casino after the game. I watched it from a fence because I couldn't afford a ticket. I have more money in my minivan gas tank that I did in my bank account, as was usual back in those days. But the money I did have, I pulled out, which historically has never worked. But I put it on blackjack and boom, one, one right away. I turned my $150 into $300 or $75 into $150, that's what I did. And so, you know, I had the voice of my grandpa Bob in my head saying, walk, walk. So I walked.

And I walked right into the sports book. And then I had the voice of my grandma Sue. Well, maybe one more. And I put it all on the Packers to win the Super Bowl. All $150. Now, I was drinking at the time. I forgot that that was all the money I had, period. But I put it all on it and I got a ticket.

as was the way in the day. I didn't have a card, so I put the ticket in my pocket. And from there, I proceeded. And you were wearing these jeans, which has a hole in the pocket, and what happened? All I remember, dude,

it was just a, it was pool party after that. One thing, I was going with my buddies. My buddies were rich back then, so I didn't even need money, you know? And,

like, oh, Charlie's a good time. We know he's not going to pay for anything. Yeah, I was good time Charlie back then. yeah and these guys were older than me they were 27 they had jobs they had disposable income you know and you were like the wild card friend we got bottle service like if we don't bring Charlie how are we going to get any stories out of the weekend right need him there doing dumb shit like taking all of his money out of his bank account put him on the packers to win the super bowl it's exactly the kind of guy was back then you know and um anyways uh you know the night

went on as nights wear in Vegas and things left to one to another and we were staying at the wind. I was staying on the floor in my friend's place but he didn't give me a key so I am sleeping in my car. But anyways, I was over at Caesars. Now that was a

walk down the strip and I was fed up and over all of Vegas at this point. If you've ever been in Las Vegas awake at 2, 3 a.m., you'd just want to be anywhere other than Las Vegas. So I was walking home because obviously I wasn't going to pay for a taxi cab

and I was just frustratedly cleaning out my pockets and I didn't think anything of it and then as the season went on the Packers were winning and then they lost and then they lost to the lion so it was like they got no shot at the Super Bowl and I was calling my uncle Denny

because my uncle Danny I called him from Vegas when I put money on I actually I think I was going to save some of my money that that was the deal but my uncle Danny said put 50 down for me so I couldn't resist so me and Uncle Denny through the season we chit-chat about that money that we had down on the Packers to win the Super Bowl and we gave up after the Lions and I kept thinking about that ticket maybe I should look for it but after the Lions I said I didn't need to and then they got to the Super Bowl

and Uncle Denny called me after and he said we're rich you know that would have been a $3,000 payout at the time that would have increased my net worth by 3,000 times and I tore up that minivan man I didn't find that ticket and all I can all I can ascertain is that it ended up in one of those garbage cans I even called the casino I said can you go back and check

your security cameras from this day actually no one might have been this day and they said sir we can't we can't do that you got to have your ticket I still think about that But, yeah, I would put all my money on the Packers to win the Super Bowl this year. So that's the moral of the story? Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Take all the money you have in your bank account and go put it on the Packers to win the Super Bowl this year. Yeah. Yep. All right. Well, why don't you put your money where your mouth is? Well, I'm not going to do it. That would be really stupid.

But, you know, if you don't have a lot, you don't have a lot to lose. something to think about now just think that was in 2010 so that had been what 14 years ago you if you had to put that all in the S&P 500 it would be $12,000 now wow that's some cash man that's some cash it's a lot of pretzel rolling money a lot of bikes to be fixed a lot of brats to be flipped a lot of lawns to be cut a lot of surper pulls the swing up yeah you know how much I made that day $75. Like, you would have done much better if you just became a stripper. I know.

I know. I just remember, do you ever, you ever wake up in a money panic? You know? I used to. Yeah. It's like, dude, I was staring down the barrel of the IRS before I started doing all of this because we had a, like, we would do marketing services for people in Fargo. Yeah.

And we made, I think I made $20,000 in one year. And when you make $20,000 and live in a place to live and have to pay rent and stuff, there's no money left over to pay taxes. No. So then I was stressing come taxis and I'm like, all that money's gone. Yeah. Spent. So I had to just weasel my way, file an extension, figure it out.

I got it paid. But yeah, that was, that was tough, tough moment for me. Yeah. The worst is getting, yeah. yeah when you're just doing whatever for money you know because you can't you can't just borrow money a lot of times like you don't have friends especially younger you don't have friends who have money correct you know yeah and i mean i'm not going to ask my dad for money oh do that you know do that you know but yeah i put you in that panic if you're starting to independent contracting

business make sure you leave some money for taxes at the end of the year it's like BSA. Yeah. I learned that the hard way. I know, but it's never fun to make a tax account, you know? Oh, yeah. I was, uh, I was actually talking to a guy who, when he first became an accountant, he moonlight as the TurboTax live advice guy. So, like, on TurboTax, you can call in. Like, if you have a question while you're filling out your own taxes, you can live chat with like a CPA on TurboTax and he did that and after the conversation, I was like, I don't

think anyone should be doing their taxes on TurboTax. Like, it's not only do, I probably didn't know what I was doing. He seemed to be like, yeah, they just like gave me a webcam and just told me start giving out advice and he's like, I was brand new. I didn't know shit about taxes.

Oh my God, dude. that that is the wildest thing too that that's what can happen there because they have audit protection you know like if you get audited they've got some insurance on that you ever been audited miles? Oh yeah

yeah like every year I feel like oh really? Yeah you get audited every year probably not every year but a lot of years really I didn't know that I got audited once

I've had to pay some money in because you know it's yeah right off something you should have rode off but you just pay back yeah yeah yeah i got all at once i didn't make much money at all like 30,000 dollars that year and i was your first thought is this is a waste of your time i did i know trying to get 300 bucks i'm like dude i'm broke like let's say you win like it's i'm gonna need a payment plan you know and uh they they got i think eight hundred dollars back and they got a i got a payment plan i was like all right i can pay uh eight dollars a month for the next yeah yeah 10 years yeah how do we get on this are we still in the intro are we just chit-chat we got folks we got a big episode coming for you today uh we got

some callers it's going to be fun man it's going to be fun so uh gold packers and uh put your money all on the green and gold but legally i got to tell you don't take my advice for anything um yeah this was fake advice yeah this was for funsies hey then what's up my guy here you want to date someone and um they might be i'm married no it's the other way around he knows someone that wants to get date. Oh, well, I screwed the pooch on that, Aden. Well, belly up to the bar. I hear your younger sister wants to date your best friend. Yikes. Did they meet at the wedding? Actually, yeah, that's where they kind of hit it off again. And then at my birthday as well. On your birthday as well? How many times have they hit it off? And were you the last to know they're dating?

off yeah what kind of hitting off are we talking about yeah um conversation why they keep it polite i got some news for you right now aden you only know the tip of the iceberg i don't know with that so okay so you're going with that so your best friend and your sister hit it off of your wedding and then again at your birthday and now you're staring down barrel of is my buddy going to date my sister yeah but also you know he's he's also has his eyes on my best friend's wife's friend as well oh i was having a query on how can i tell him because he's a great guy like how can i tell him he's allowed to date my sister while also not like inconveniencing him by making him feel he can't pursue this other gal that he's looking at, you know?

Okay, so you actually would be okay with him dating your sister? Yeah, he's a great guy. He's a stereotypical 6-5 finance. He's 6-4, but. So, all right, here's a question for you. Why did you feel the need to lie about his hunting? Well, it's a. It's a social media thing.

I don't have social media. Oh, yeah, 6'5, blue eyes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blue eyes, I see what I'm going to go with that. Yeah, he's like, I'm a fish out of water here. I tried it. It didn't work. Yeah.

I caught on. I sounded familiar. Yeah. But like, so like, but did you tell your buddy, okay, you can go for my sister, but you can't be like, you know, trying to get. Yeah, because everyone's a good guy, Charlie, until they start dating your sister. Yeah.

Yeah, that gets wild. And okay, so what is the conversations you've had with your sister about them? Oh, you know, she's all giggly about it and, you know, her eyes are going everywhere. She's definitely interested in them. She's had a couple of boyfriends, and I've never seen her talk like, you know, that about them. like she does for my best friend so oh no and how long has he been your best friend oh i mean we were pouring dirt on each other's heads and diapers so you know a long time is it your younger sister yeah my younger sister so she's had a crush on him is her whole life

that's a possibility yeah yeah okay and tell us about your your wife he's just real in that. Do you hear that, huh? Yeah, I mean, they've been hitting it off since diapers is what it sounds like. What's the age gap? I think it's only a few years. Yeah. Okay. Tell us about your wife's in-laws, friends, whatever that was again, that gal. Oh, yeah. So, so my other best friend's wife, it's her best friend. He's, he's brought it up. He's brought it up conversation only a few times like you kind of nudging them like hey you know I have your wife

introduced me to Liz Dow you know because she seems pretty nice but other than talking to my sister he hasn't said much about her either so I don't know where the interest is on his end. Yeah so I get

yeah and and what and you're wondering what you should say to your buddy to give him the okay that he can't date your sister right yeah yeah well charlie typical midwest fashion you have younger sisters how would you thinking about it right now miles because i've had a friend it we're yeah we're well i was just say hypothetical here obviously i am married happily married but let's say i'm your single friend and i want to date one of your sisters feldman

Feldman matched with my sister on Tinder Tinder. Yep. So Feldman is Charlie's buddy. Wasn't he in one of our first videos? Yeah, he was in the guy's in a bar. He looks like who again.

He looks like Paul Ryan. He looks like Paul Ryan. With a big mole. Yeah. And he was in the, he was, extra in our guys in a small town bar video we shot in hudson wisconsin so i know felman felman's a great guy and honestly i'd take felman as as as a best or a brother-in-law too

um he was going to say best man and then it was like actually but it it had changed the dynamic of the friendship because now you're playing with fire because like historically speaking relationships don't work out you know um and now we're talking like you know now you got your best friends now you're putting the friendship kind of on the line you know a little bit because let's say it goes wrong you're not going to choose your friend over your sister unless your sister really screwed the pooch but you know um and sometimes they can end amicably but uh i'd steer them honestly toward your uh wife's uh friend's friend or whatever but uh if if it is going to go down the way of your sister you just guys say i don't

want to hear anything about it ever yeah i mean maybe maybe do that paint him a picture right yeah hey dude we get to get together you know we're drinking in the garage and we got locker room talk you know we're throwing around funny jokes locker room talk you know locker room talk you know shooting the shit oh yeah okay ever guy you you weren't good have to play high school sports. I've never been in a locker room. Okay. While that is true,

you know, it's just guys being dudes in the locker room, chatting it up, you know, talking about the ladies in their life and just like, be like, hey,

do you really want to lose that part of our friendship? Because that's one of the best parts. Are you ready to lose that part of your friend? Oh, I mean, uh, I guess I have,

hesitation says that, you know, it's difficult because I want him to follow his heart. But now since he saved my sister's life down in Nashville. So she kind of sees him on like a night and shining armor now. All right. Right. Really? You're making this guy seem like he's Clark Kent and like he's Superman here. What's what do you mean he saved her life? Maybe it's like Superman's little brother. How do you just bring that up right now? yeah what did he do well that's in the voicemail but uh so

we see we don't get to hear the voicemail because we want to hear it all for the first time here on the bellied up podcast that's Jared Jared's the only one that gets to see that Jared sent the voicemail both of us also he's not getting that frustrated with us he's like Jesus fuck guys I already went over this I mean at what point

I mean, this is our show here, my man, you know. You're a great guest, by the way. But yeah, let's hear the story. Come on. All right. So she goes down to Nashville, Tennessee. Yep, we got that. And she's a concert with her friend.

Yeah. So around, what was at midnight, 1 a.m., her friend, who's no longer her friend anymore, decides she wants to go off with a guy. So she tells my sister, hey, I'm going to call you an Uber. I want to be alone. And my sister just kind of stands with her like, okay. So the Uber doesn't come. She's sitting down in like downtown Nashville for an hour or two, you know, drunk people everywhere.

Not a great place for a young lady to be. And, you know, she remembers the conversation she had with my best friend at my birthday. because he's going down to Nashville as well for a concert with his buddy so basically she calls him up and he picks her up and drives her all the way home and huge question does your does your sister have a flip phone um no so why couldn't she just call her own Uber same question oh because uh the i think her phone and her wallet and stuff her friend had it she didn't realize that and that's why she couldn't like fly home or anything so she had to get her wallet and stuff later back from her friend yeah so how did he she call him oh wait a minute

oh i guess she had her phone she had her phone probably her her wallet was with her friend and the credit car wasn't loaded on her phone been there that's a likely story charlie let's give you see where i'm going well i see where you're going but let's get the other facts pretty convenient on some of these things here yeah so she they're both conveniently in nashville conveniently she's not with this mythical friend anymore they're no longer friends convenient that she disappears convenience she has her phone can't call her own Uber but has to call this guy instead

Charlie do you see where I'm going with it's a few too many coincidences here for us to say it's just coincidental but Miles we don't know all the facts so let's not pass judgment all I'm saying is if you have this conversation with your buddy he

might just be like you know a dude I got to come clean we've been dating for like four years we just are nervous to tell you I wouldn't be upset hearing that I mean a little bit because he's been dating other guys in the past four years that's why you've told him yeah I don't think we should tell your brother yet

you know all right so I'm so scared to tell my brother you should just pretend to date some other girls for a while to throw him off the scent what if he actually what you know that was it yeah that'd be crazy that's two twists all right so she's in the car with your buddy and he basically sleep the whole way home and his buddy drives all the way back which he thought

they were going to take turn but my buddy can be a heavy sleeper so and and that was that pretty much that's not saving a life dude that's so again being an Uber yeah so what you're telling me is your sister and your friend drove all the way back from Nashville. He didn't drive once and he told you that he slept all 14 hours home. Jolly,

what was the last time you slept 14 hours straight? I think when I was a baby, maybe. Yeah. That was her side of the story and his side of the story. Yeah, they have 14 hours to figure it out.

Dude, I'll have to ask my buddy's friend to see if that is actually what was going on. If he even exists. So, wait a second, man. He picked her up from a bar at bar time and they drove through the night home. No, she was on the streets of Nashville trying to, you know. And he picked her up and drove all the way home. What about her stuff at the hotel? you know she didn't talk about that can i can i also you got from her friend later i think is what

she said okay can i also just say the streets of nashville uh i'm assuming she was on broadway which is basically just a big bar like the whole street is a big no there's drunk people everywhere yeah that's what she was saying yeah but it's in the times i've been there and maybe it's different it miles we were just there did it seem like a dangerous place to be um not specifically we're guys though yeah we're guys so we can't really talk to that um thanks for rescuing me but i think you're you're you're focusing on the fact that if that was scenario was even true and i just am having a hard time it's just too many things are lining up here i don't know what it sounds like is your buddy took your sister home from the bar he quite literally

slept with your sister in the car? Well, there's a little play on words. I see what you're doing. It's technically true. You can't argue with that. Technically true. There was some sleeping around in the car. Well, look.

I mean, Aiden, I think your sister is dating your friend. and I think that's beautiful. Yeah. I mean, I'd take them as a brother. That'd be awesome. So I'd also... Why don't you just tell them that right there? Just come right from the home?

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't respect the fibbing, but I can see from their point of view why they might be... I don't know if they have these delusions of grandeur. Like, they're covering up a bank robbery. Like, if they're dating just, you know, come out with it. Also, Charlie, he, he's just finally considering the fact that they may have not told them the full truth. Are you just concerned that or have you that crossed your mind before? No, that's never crossed my mind before.

I can't tell if he's screwing. I feel a little bad if I did, you know, burst his bubble a little there, but people aren't always completely honest. what's that what do you say charge no I just says people aren't always completely honest with the the ones they love the most yeah that's true

yeah we get fearful of hurting each other yeah I think after all I just uh just say hey what's going on with you and my sister I just want to let you know that if you did want to date her it's totally cool dude why don't you just say that to him yeah

just tell them up front you know why do i feel like you're scrolling through items on craigslist right now it feels like he's on facebook marketplace looking for like a lawnmour he is yeah you can hear in the way he's laughing right now that's exactly what he's doing he's like yeah how many people do we just make bored on this god dang thing you know we're supposed to have an audience that's entertained right now you know i have a lot of questions going through my head right now yeah i'm sure you do Of course, dude. We just, we burst this bubble.

Yeah, like, do I buy this muller or not? Oh, frick you, Aidan. Listen, your sister's date and your buddy, all right? And they've been doing it for a while. Yeah, dude, whatever. My eyes were glazing over a little bit when you were going over some details. So don't act like you are just so engaging either, Aiden. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I get that, you know. All right. Well, listen, if that, if that mower don't work out, you call us back. if you want buy seller trade it all right pal all right all right sounds good get a bagger actually don't they're waste of money see you dude

how many times in your life do you say stuff and immediately go back on it a lot dude a beggar sucks like my grandma just wanted to get a beggar yesterday and she was like shy guy I was like no it's just we just got to cut the grass more and you just should have said I what do you

doing buying a beggar at your age. Well, you're basically buying me a bagger. You know, my aunt, my aunt makes those jokes. You're just buying a bagger that I got to split with all my siblings, you know? That's a whole thing, you know? But at least put my name in the will for it.

My aunt makes those jokes all the time. And my grandma will throw it back in her face. We should take you to a home. That's great. All right. Well, yeah, that dude's definitely dating his sister also saved her life by picking her up from a bar. Dude, just a classic fib. Not like Illinois fib, like white lie fib by them.

They organized the trip to Nashville together, went through all these hoops, and then of course he's going to distract from ever thinking that it was something else by saying that he saved my life. oh yeah i bet you that he found out accidentally that they were driven back from nashville that they drove in the same car i bet someone told them told him that they saw them or something and then they're like he saved my life yeah and then they got to backtrack it well i was uh at the bar i was with my friend yeah she was with their friend i was at a concert yeah and we knew we were gonna be there because we would talk together at your birthday party and you know he slept nothing happened nothing i slept with the whole yes and i was in the back seat yes and no hand signals were you have the whole trip The whole trip.

Yep. It was one straight shot. Yeah. And it was my first, first pregnancy. We're pregnant. It was an immaculate conception. So, yeah, that was just crazy. Save my life.

Yeah. say my little clerk can't like Clark Kent's brother yeah also yeah there's no way we're dating I'm actually interested in your sister your wife's sister's brothers in-law's friend actually and I've been dating women for the last four years that is not your sister so yeah that was it what a quinky dink huh what a quinky dink. is he messing with us you have some cars that call and you're like man you're messing with me dude i i mean he definitely checked out in the last third of that thing he was definitely looking on his phone at like something oh yeah he was probably like he's probably looking at like

her instagram wondering why she hasn't accepted his friend request yet you still private to him Looking at his two, also private. I wonder what I'm, yeah, he's putting all these dots together. He was looking on SnapMap to see their location. They sure get coffee at the same spot a lot. It's a lot of coincidences. They live in the same apartment building. How is that possible?

It says they're in the same apartment, but he must be on floor number five and she's on three. God, bless you aiden good luck um should we take another caller charlie let's do it charlie you know what i love labor day i think it's kind of the bridge between summer and fall it's a bittersweet time and with that emotion comes a lot of traveling babies and unfortunately there can be a lot of accidents that can happen on labor day especially when everyone's trying to go home from the lake oh i thought you were talking about giving labor oh yeah oh No, I don't participate in Labor Day.

That's only my wife. My sister was born on a Labor Day. I mean, isn't it? While? I mean, what a shame your mom had to work on Labor Day. Yeah, she did. She had to really put in the hours, man. A lot of pushing.

But yeah, man, I mean, things can happen on Labor Day, and they're not always expected, and they're not always welcome. And sometimes they involve accidental injuries, right, Miles? Mm-hmm. And so what do we? do in moments like that. I said we give Nicolet Law a call.

Do you? 55 Nicolay or go to Nicolaylaw.com. 8.5.5. Nicolay. 855 Nicolay. Give them a call. They'll save the day. 8555. Nicolay.

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Okay. Well, don't move now. I'm staying still. Okay. Well, Brad, I heard you wanted to call in and talk a little white collar

versus blue collar and all the things involved with that. It's on your mind. Yeah. what the fine was there. I mean, when you're down in blue collar, you know, and when you're up in white collar, I guess you know, but what happens when you're in the limbo there?

When you're between a blue and a white collar, you're going to Catholic school. Yeah, Barnard, that was Catholic school. Brad, you sound a little bit robotic right now. Is there anywhere you can go with better service? Brad. Can you see a hill? I'll keep walking around until you can hear me. How about that?

Well, right now we can hear you. Oh, that's perfect. I'm standing on top of a stump. Good. Okay. Stay there. Stump, it is. All right, so repeat that again. I mean, like, when you're a blue collar worker, I think you know you're a blue collar

worker, right? But when you're a white collar worker, do you know that you're a white collar worker? I mean, like, I feel like the lines are pretty blurry there for a certain income level, you know? Yeah. First question, are you a white-collar worker or blue-collar worker? That's actually a great question because I feel like I just left a blue-collar job and tomorrow I start a white-collar job. Okay.

Perfect time for you guys to call. What's a blue collar? What's the white-collar in your opinion? Blue-collar, I was delivering beer, like a local beard. out of a van or a box truck, yeah, steel toes and stuff. And then white collar, I'm a quality engineer. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the engineer aspect kind of floats a little bit in the blue color round,

but I think it's definitely a white collar job, don't you think, Charles? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think. So wait, you're telling me, you're one of the guys that made it out. Yeah. I guess. Not every blue-collar job is like this, but when I was working concrete, it would always be like, oh, so-and-so finally made it out, working a job that they don't hate every single day.

That's literally the conversation I had with my coworkers once I left, like last Friday. Yeah, it was like, it was like Matt Damon on Goodwill. Yeah. It's in there smoking the cigarette in front of the car. your other blue collar workers are like dude I'm in 30 years I'm going to be delivering the same goddamn beer but if you're doing that I swear to God I'm going to be pissed at you yeah yeah yeah I basically had that conversation with these guys

so you're like I will I will then you're the you're the brainiac of the group I know I got to like go back to the shop in like six months and just like be like what up well make sure you bring like beer donuts or something. All right. Yeah. So Charlie, what would you say?

Genetize in them. Go ahead. Oh, sorry. Oh, I was going to say like the background here.

I feel like I've been on the fringe. I've been working in an engineering department, but I've been the guy who's using all the tools and like saws and, you know,

blowing up power supplies and stuff like that. That's kind of like where this topic came from. so that's what you're doing now that's kind of no that's what i've been doing for the past 10 years okay and then i you know i delivered beer for like a year right and just to pay the bills and now i'm like yeah yeah so charlie what would you say other than the color of the collar uh-huh what would you say is defining white collar versus blue color job like i feel like

white color job if you get to the if you get to the office and um you stand around a water cooler and talk about the not how you didn't do anything that weekend i feel like you work a white collar job yeah if you sit like this i'll do miller like blue collar job yeah yeah if um you know I think if, if you're worried about HR, you probably work a white collar job. Yeah. If a printer is the bane of your existence, white collar job. Could go blue collar, though, because, you know, there's... You got to fix it.

Yeah. Yeah. Actually, that's a shared one. You know, white color and blue collar, both hay printers. In the Venn diagram, we put that right there. It's the crossover. Um, if your boss is an asshole, you work both blue collar and white collar job. Yes. Yes. If you are, if you are only going to the Christmas party to win one of the door prizes, probably. That's tough. That's tough. Probably a middle wrong. Probably right in the middle there. I don't think.

If you're only going to the Christmas party because they got free. beer. Blue collar. If you're going to the Christmas party to get a promotion, white collar. I mean, there you go. Because you can say cheap white collar. Trying to win the door prices. Yeah, there's definitely cheap white collar. But there's also, there's also rich blue collar, you know, like the truth of it is these

days blue collar jobs make more than white collar jobs in a lot of instances. and so I feel like our here and where I'm in Oregon but you're you're a plumber or a construction worker like some people sitting that off easily.

Yeah. Yeah. We heard half of that, but yeah, we'll just agree. We'll be agreeable with it. Yeah. What are some other things, Sally? Blue collar job versus white collar job.

I feel like If you've ever Pissed in a Gatorade bottle Blue collar job Although You know that there are some Some You know

White collar guys that are like I got to wait for the stock to drop Or something you know But they're not pissing They're pissing in their Nalgin bottle Yeah They're camelback Yeah

Yeah. If you bike to work, but... What kind of bike are we talking? Because if it's a Huffy from like mid-2000s, you just got too many DUI. Correct, yes. Or if it's motorized blue collar. Yeah, right. If you wear, sorry, if you wear a helmet biking to work, white collar. Yeah, yeah.

If your helmet is your construction helmet, probably also white collar if you stay in hotels white collar if you live out of an hotel blue collar hotel white collar motel blue collar yeah there you go if you shower at the gym well you just let me finish this one yeah white color then don't look at me and do the hand thing just yeah yeah you looked like who you want me to finish your goddamn sentence I know, and I wanted you to say, white collar. White collar. If you shower at the gym for work, white collar.

If you shower at the truck stop before work, blue collar. If you shower in your boss's shower at work, could go either way. Go either way. If you shower in the sink, blue collar. Shop shower is what we call that, Charlie. Yeah, a little hobat is what I've heard it call. I had to take a whole bath on my route a couple of times too sweaty out there lifting kegs oh yeah that's a topic for now that's another topic now what's interesting go both ways one is

like if you're doing cocaine on a regular basis could be both mm-hmm yeah that's a shared that's a shared one yeah if you drink bush light blue collar if you drink mic ultra white collar yeah unless the beer's free yeah then they don't care yeah a free beer that swings both ways that's like that one fella on at the side of the bar who is white collar is there a follow the guy who swings both ways oh god god it's sorry he's usually one white collar sorry that joke was funnier than it got credit for um yeah if your lunch comes in a cooler blue collar if your lunch comes in an uber white collar white call yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no shoes too i feel like shoes are a big big indicator

oh yeah shoes if yeah if you wear if you wear leather shoes to work could be both could be both if you have steel in your leather shoes blue collar if you have polish on your leather shoes white collar if you have polish on your tennis shoes blue collar really that's my Saturday night shoes, man. Yeah, you know what's funny. Forget that. If you polish your shoes whenever there's an escalator, blue collar. You ever done that? Put polish on your shoes and gone up an escalator. A little brush on the side of the thing. It works, dude. It works. That's a blue collar move for sure. Yeah. It's, it's, but it legit works. You just got to know how to rotate and you want to like kind of depending on the thing you may you may

um like you kind of want to find one that goes up and down right next to each other because that's it's going to take a couple runs because if you don't have the right hip flexibility you got to make a quick turn on the stairs you know and yeah you got to get the upper part of it yeah yeah and so you want to get a nice one where there's two a bunch of times every time I'm on the airport is a good place you go

like if your way if your flight got delayed or whatever and you got a little shoe polish with you that's midwest cheap dude you won't just go to the shoe polish station instead just use the flat little escalator things yeah yeah because shoe polish you travel with shoe pauls um there was one time where i had um i had shoe polish and i just did it i remember but i don't know why i had shoe polish because I'm also, I was going to a wedding and my shoes, you know, you get some of those shoes that are like really old, but you're like, you know, those were your uncle's shoes. They're actually really nice if you just polish them

and you hear that enough, but you never do it. And everyone's like, you wore those. And so. So, Charlie, I love this about you. You don't have kitchen utensils in your apartment, but you have shoe polish. No, this was a long. long time ago.

And I do have, I do shoe powers. He's like, that's how Charlie's brain works. He's like, ah, I got to get some shoe pauls. I got to make these shoes look nice.

But then you go over to his apartment, he's like, yeah, you're probably just going to have to eat with your hands. I don't know where any of my forks are. I'll tell you this much. I have utensils now. Because if you hear the shoe polish story on its own,

you're like, wow, Charlie's really got his life together. He's even polishing his dress shoes. Yeah. Yeah, only time I did it. But I will also say the shoe polish came from like in the back hall closet, you know, where you have like a bunch of different, like your WD40 and old paint thing, something like that.

I got the, that's where I got the shoe polish, I think. I don't know that I purchased it directly for it because this was an out-the-door conversation. Like, I don't have shoe polish or some in the back wall. okay take it but probably not going to do it so shoe polish makes it through TSA no this was before TSA so like 2000 no no no it's just at the check in there's an up and a down I think it was Milwaukee airport oh you're saying before you so then you said to discard your shoe polish I thought you were saying like before TSA existed that's what I said no no no So like August of 2001 is when this was, right before TSA existed.

Yeah. Is Brad still on the line? God dang. Sorry, Brad. We loved you hanging. So what were we talking about, Brad? Do you think we accurately, accurately diagnose what's blue collar versus white color? I feel like, yeah.

I mean, I've called in for a couple of things if you want to move on to another topic. I love it when our callers are sick of what we're talking. They all roast us. Yeah, you start to wonder, Miles, if we can't even entertain the people that called in, how are we supposed to entertain the masses? Yeah, it's all right. It's not like that. I've been laughing this whole time.

Well, do you have anything you want byseller trade? What else do you want to talk about? What do you else do you want to talk about, Brad? I had one that was like how far away do you need to be from the sports bar for it to be like a themed like I was in a Packers themed bar out here in Oregon I felt like it was far enough away it didn't feel weird you know yeah I feel that obviously right yeah it's like obviously the bars in uh you know around any sports team are themed but like yeah how far away do you got to be from the sports team for a sports-themed bar to feel like a novelty or feel like a cool experience. Because if you go to a Packer-themed bar in Green Bay, you're like, yeah, this is, you know, a dime a dozen here. I think you've got to be out of state. Out of state?

I just out of state. Yeah. Yeah. Well, go ahead. Oh, I was going to say, I was that one in San Francisco visiting family. I lived in Boston for a while, and it was a Boston-themed-based sports. far and it felt like I was downtown Boston everyone was pissed off and you know everything was dirty and old so perfect yeah I I want that's so much fun when you have it it's almost like a

consulate you know like you're at the Boston consulate in San Francisco the US embassy the yeah yeah the Red Sox embassy in San Francisco they got flags outside the whole deal and you know when you're there, you can claim sanctuary. Yeah, if you get into a yelling match with the person selling hot dogs on the street, you just got to get to the Red Sox embassy. Yeah. They'll save you. Yep, yeah, they'll protect you. It's a sanctuary in the basement. And, um, yeah, like Boston calls, like San Francisco gets, gets, like, too, like, upset with the deal and they call everybody home from the embassy. They're like, it's no longer safe there. You know? know they're no longer letting allowing you to say wicked on the streets just turns it to a negotiation

yeah yeah they they're they're prejudice against masholes in san francisco um yeah yeah a negotiation do you have a favorite packer bar that's out of state oh my gosh i know it's kind of putting you on the spot you know yeah yeah i was just at one in portland oregon i was doing a show out there and there i think it's jerry's and you walk into that place and you're like i'm right back in milwaukee man um and it's actually a uh i think there's bears and packer stuff because the wife is a bears fan the husband is a packer fan and that's yeah that's a good one uh charleston they've got these packerbackers and i forget the name of the bar in charleston but i know they got a good one down there.

Oh, Central Florida. There are these packerbackers in all these different states. And sometimes I forget the bars, but I remember going there. There's one in Los Angeles called the Tattletail Room. They got a cheesehead drilled to the side of it. And you know, you're home, you know? That's the nice thing. Does Fargo?

It's like the bat signal, right? Pretty much. Yeah. You just see anything where the cheese. cheese anything cheese is like a bat signal for wisconsinites throughout the country yeah yeah we know we can sniff it out um fargo i don't think has that um it's mostly just like viking stuff hang on the walls it's not like a specific viking bar if fargo could get a football team what would they name it well we have north dakota has the bucks so the bismarck bucks same question cody paul

used to play for him he was uh he was known as the white reggie bush back on old youtube in in uh peewee football do you remember that he played for the bismarck bucks is that cody paul is that like a um i don't know i think there was like arena team oh yeah like that Milwaukee at the mustangs yeah back then back in the day um could be the chippers you know know, like the clippers, with the chippers. I like that. The wood chippers. That's a great name.

That is a great name, actually. And the Fargo chippers. And you guys, that's great. You guys all wear the sports spectacles, you know, like from the 90s. Yep. Just eye protection. It's part of the uniform. Yeah.

You got a guy with one arm, you know. Yeah. That's a mascot. and every game he's missing a different limb you know yeah and then the pregame ritual is we take a piece of wood with the other team's logo painted on it and we put it through the wood chip oh yeah sick you know at homecoming games they'll paint the like homecoming week they'll paint the other teams like thing on their car and then they'll take a sledgehammer and smash it yeah that's our version of that yeah they just do it center core

yeah and then all the regs they wipe it up with are just like red you know yeah yeah blood yeah it'd be great i mean we could have bought a sports franchise with how much the fucking diversion costs in fargo but that's a whole other thing yeah what's up with that that's if your thing gets you worked up is the AI minds the fargo diversion diversion you guys have a power center going up in fargo everyone was telling me yeah we're not diving into that charlie we got Brad on the line. Oh shit. Brad's still on the line.

Brad, Brad, are you still standing on the stump? Yes, I am still standing on the damn it, Brad. We love you up there, dude. Charlie, I want to, we're going to roleplay

Brad during this whole call. You ready? Yeah. Oh, God. I'm going to let you do this. Can you hear me? right. So I'm yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's the dumbest bit we've done the long time. That was a good bit. I was that. I wanted to see where you took it. I, you were supposed to help me out a little bit like we were having a conversation, but it's all right.

That went about as good as our, uh, uh, tried again, tried again, tried again, tried again, tried again, try it again. yeah sorry about that that went about as good as a normal guy and a robot walk into a bar bit we did that's about how good that went Charles I wasn't

I was waiting also I was waiting for you do something I mean the whole bit was that he was just standing on a stump the whole call it's and I understand a visual gag is not great for a podcast cast you're bit bombed and you're blaming on me no it's fine it's fine yeah it was a good bit i thought

how's your sciatica um uh brad he's stretching his side ass right now pushing the sciatic uh or the leg into the sciad yeah another blue collar indicator you know limbering up yeah stretching in random places yeah you got to worry you got to worry about throwing out your back blue collar you got to work about carpal tunnel tunnel and depression well i guess depression do you do you um do you treat your depression with antidepressants or beer that's the difference between one color blue collar yeah well this um was a wonderful chit chat with you brad is there anything else on your mind that's pretty much it you know i uh I'm really happy that you guys took my call.

I've been listening to your podcast since the get-go here. Nice, dude. We're thrilled to be talking to you. All right. All right. You're free to go from the stump now, Brad. Awesome. I can dismount and you're going to meet.

That's a good bit. I got what he was doing right away. Oh, fuck off. All right, Brad. good all right take care guys bye bye well miles we did it here man yeah we did another episode of the bellied up podcast and guys i'm being completely honest when i say that you got to get to um get to the bar here in wisconsin kegles in baby got to get to the kegles in it's uh it's actually really cool bar they know they do a lot of events west Dallas yes they got some comedy what night's your

comedy night Tuesday it's a winner yeah yeah they have way too many other fun stuff to do during the summer sure do that they can't work in your comedy night and they got these nice big

handmade steins behind me so make sure you look at for them and come look at the wall have a beer have an old fashion if I was a local reporter for a news magazine that was only in Milwaukee. Do you have one of those? Yeah. What's it called? I don't know. Oh, like a lifestyle magazine? Oh, yeah, Milwaukee Magazine. If I was a writer for Milwaukee

magazine, I would do an article. It's like top underground places you need to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you could say that you're getting a Barron's old-fashioned brandy on tap. Yeah. And then they would call, I would call Charlie for comment. and he wouldn't respond. So I'd have to say we contacted Charlie Barron's about comment and didn't hear back from him. Well, I probably forgot, but, you know, Miles, it's just good that you got buddies who know you so well. But I will say, yeah, it's a beautiful bar.

It is. Yeah. Um, well, is that it, Jared? Well, guys, thanks for tuning into another episode of the Bellied Up podcast. As always, tip your bartender, and we'll see the next one. I like how there's a monkey looking at a schlitz and a baby that looks like he's 45 years old right there. Yeah. It's kind of what my kid looks like.

Yeah, take a picture, and that's so true. All right, we'll see you guys soon. I think of a photo of my kid. 100 years ago. Okay, I hope you guys have a good one. Goodbye now. Oodaloo.