Bellied Up - Caller Found Something Weird in a Car Trunk #191

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

We're at Hooligans Bar and Grill in West Fargo, ND. Our first caller found something very interesting in the trunk of a car and tells us everything he discovered. Then we hear from a caller in Massachusetts who has a bone to pick with bikers (not the kind you're thinking of).Get $10 Off at BRUNT with code belliedup at https:// www.bruntworkwear.com/belliedup #Bruntpod #ad

Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Bellied Up podcast. Charlie and I are bellied up here at Hooligans in West Fargo. And Charlie, how you feeling, buddy? Oh, I'm feeling good, Miles. You know, it's a balmy day here in Fargo. So balmy 40 degrees here. Balmy, what is the actual definition of balmy? Like lip balm, like moist.

It's a moist day here. Is that what it means? Yeah, it means there's a lot of moisture in the air. Balmy, like swampy. you know pleasantly warm is the definition well maybe I'm wrong but it's it still works it is pleasantly warm here yeah I guess I've never thought about it actually what it means I just yeah sometimes you think about that you know I was thinking about miles I was thinking about all the great historical things that have happened oh yeah you know that's what I was thinking about that's what I was thinking about

about this at just when I was using bathroom. So you're just standing there and you're thinking about you, you were just thinking, oh, God, just think of about all of the historical events that happened. Well, let me, let me talk you through the mind, really. So I was watching the TV and I was watching that Super Bowl highlights on. And then I was thinking, oh my gosh, what would it have been like to be at like, not the first Super Bowl, but you know how the Packers won all those titles before the Super Bowl, you know, the world championships, because we're called Title Town Miles.

I didn't know if you knew that. But football was a completely different game back then, you know, and you can't really see it Super Bowl quality. Like, you can't watch those games, but it was a completely different game. Like, fellas were using, like, uh, trucker drugs and smoking cigarettes mid game, you know. Yeah, I mean, they were all truck truck truckers. They were all truckers, meat packers. Yeah.

Meatpackers. mob bosses the whole deal. And they didn't care. And they had just like a little leather on their heads, you know. And they were doing head shots and everything. But, you know, to see a quarterback step up, put his hands on the center's balls with a cigarette drip from his mouth. That's what football was like back in the day.

Now, they've made a lot of changes and that's better for the health of everyone. Well, so the question is, is did they actually ban cigarettes during football? or is people just elect not to anymore? Like if if Jordan Love walked out for the first snap of the 2026 season with a dart in his mouth, would he get thrown out of the game or like is it actually in the rulebook do you think? It'd be a hefty fine. It'd be a hefty fine for certain. But would he get kicked out of the game, you think?

Yeah, I don't think you can, I don't think you can smoke cigarettes in football anymore. The mask makes it pretty prohibitive, you know, not a lot of. easy i added an extra in there but um yeah i don't i think i think it's just a difficult thing to be smoking a cigarette playing profession this kind of elite level professional football you used to be able to you know rocket heater when you add larry the you know the the snowplow driver i understand why they don't smoke anymore oh okay what i'm saying you didn't well i'm saying but is it actually in the rule book that you can't smoke for sure for sure it is uh i mean we can look it up. I think it kind of goes without saying at this juncture, but I do know they had the

outlaw dip in baseball, right? So you can't be like putting a big old chaw in. But cigarette, you used to be able to smoke in the dugout. Yeah. Like openly. I probably banned it. So where were you going with this then? I was just saying it would be cool to like see one of those games in action like close up, you know, because you can't, we don't have the footage. to look at those. That's just what I was thinking of. So you'd like to be at the NFL championship number one. Yes. Yes, I would. And so then I started thinking miles about like just things that we've never gotten a chance to see that would be cool to see. And so I wanted to like bring you into this conversation, not just make it about me. So that's why I was thinking, what about historical events

more broadly? So I was like, well, maybe I could ask Miles. And I thought about all this, you know, mid-pee. So I didn't think too deeply about it. So you're wondering what historical event I'd like to be a part of? Or that you like to see in person. Yeah, I think I got a Mount Rushmore. You want to go there when they're building Mount Rushmore? No, I have. I mean, that'd be really slow. I know you think that they just blasted that bitch with lasers, but not like that took decades. I imagine it was coordinated where they just, they put all the dynamite in. And then they just hit one time in all the dynamite blue and then the faces were just there. Ah, that'd be cool. I honestly hope we could redo that historical event just the way you described it.

No, I'm saying I think I have a Mount Rushmore top four. Oh, see, that makes way more sense. First, I'd like to be at the beginning of the universe. Okay. To know what happened. The Big Bang. Well, I mean, depends on who you ask. That's some universe pornography right there, you know.

Money shot. I would also like to be at Jesus. his birth. Would you want to cut the umbilical cord? Whatever they need me to do, I'll hold a leg. You know, I'll get water. I'll do whatever. Dude, they don't even talk about who delivered Jesus. It's not even there. No, I know. So it could be me.

Could be you. Yeah. All right. Nice. Two good ones. In the Bible, they told everyone that was there, it would be like the three wise men, all the animals, Mary, Joseph, the angel, I think. No, but they got there after. They didn't get there to help out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I mean. They showed up later with a bunch of gifts, you know. And then they'd be like, oh, Miles was there.

Yeah. You're one of the wise men. Well, no. Wise guy. A wise guy, yeah. Three wise men. What would you bring? What gift would you bring?

What you bet your merch would you bring? Just bring a case of beer. Case of Bush. You know, because Joseph doesn't get. any time a day. No. He's like as soon as... So I bring a cigar and some beer for Joseph

and me and him would hit we'd hit the town. Yeah. You know? Because back in the day, dads didn't have to do shit after birth. Yeah, but do you guys couldn't even get into an end, dude? Do you think you're going to find a tavern?

Well, no, I'd make a few calls and I'll get him, I'll get him a room. With what? I know the story won't be as good if they stay in a hotel room. You're going to make a few calls? Yeah. Smoke signal? What are you talking about?

Yeah. Think about that. the time period, Miles. You can't just put yourself in these historical moments with modern day technology. Who are you going to call? Who has a phone aside for you in this situation, huh? You're going to drop off a phone at the Bethleh in hotel. I don't know why my historical event that I'd like to be at is so triggering for you. Well, it just doesn't make sense. Okay. All right. So you being at the first national NFL championship makes sense? Yeah, it seems pretty standard to me. Yeah. All right. So that's,

Number two, which I can tell you didn't like. No, I actually did like it. Boston molasses? I would like 100%. Boston molasses disaster. I don't think I want to. People don't know. You don't know the Boston molasses?

I said for people who don't know. Of course I know. So the Boston molasses disaster on January 15th, 1919, 1918, 1914. Sometimes in the 19th. Okay. A gigantic, basically water tower-esque thing full of hot molasses burst open and flooded the streets of Boston, killing like 30, 21 people, injuring 150. And they said that there was a wall of molasses coming down the street at 35 miles an hour. So what I'd like to is I'd like to be a guy on a rooftop

during the Boston molasses disaster. And I'd also like to have a megaphone to start alerting faster than what they did. Kind of a modern day Paul Revere type of situation. The molasses is coming. The molasses is coming. Get out of the streets. And I'd like to save at least as many of those 21 that I could. Can we also talk about how insulting.

the phrase slower than molasses is, because clearly molasses can haul asses. It's going 35 miles an hour. That is true. Shit. And hot? What were they doing with that much molasses? Can I ask? It was a business move.

And they put it in the water tower? No, well, it wasn't a water tower. It was just like a place that made molasses, right? Yeah. And they were skirting around like regulations and stuff. They had those back that. Well, that's part. Part of this helped that.

Oh, okay. This gave us regulation. It's kind of like you have 9-11, so then you get airport security. Got it. Got it. The situation. Right. Which it would be nice if we as a society could just figure out how to put those guardrails up before a disaster happens, but that's not the way the world works.

Right. So we're just getting up to wait for one robot to kill. I mean, as silly as it sounds kind of. Okay. Okay. Got it. Well, at least someone needs to get injured. Okay.

So do you want to be that, you want to volunteer as tribute? Well, if you care enough about ending the robots, you might want to volunteer. You could be Caddus Everdeen. I'll let Evergreen. Evergreen? It's a Catness Evergreen? I feel like Mark Zuckerberg should volunteer. What's the Hunger Games?

Catness Evergreen? Everdeen. I said it right the first time. Cadness Evergreen is her hippie-ass sister. Okay, cool. some of the molasses. I like that one. It was very, very historical. And you knew a lot about it.

Oh, yeah. I'm been obsessed with it since high school when I first learned about it. It's kind of my Roman Empire. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. A little bit. Are you a big molasses guy yourself? I like a molasses cookie. Yeah.

Don't call them a ginger snap. Mm-mm. Not the same. And then, I don't know. God, the last one. I probably... Pyramids? I was actually thinking about the pyramids.

I'd like to go back. I wouldn't want to be there for the whole building of pyramids because they probably took a while, but at least I'd like to be in the meeting where they finalize the plans and how they're going to do it. Do they know who built those? We don't know. But remember when you saw the Ten Commandments?

We always used to watch that on Easter. That was one that my dad would watch at Ten Commandments. You remember that movie? And it showed those guys building the pyramids. Is that revisionist? We just don't know. A lot of people think that the Egyptians just found the pyramids. How do the Egyptians feel about that?

I don't know. I haven't talked to them. Well, give them on the horn. That'd be crazy, man. They are big. Yeah. They're pretty geometric. And then I would come back and I would just tell everyone I know how they built it, but I wouldn't tell anyone.

That'd be the most miles move possible. This is the most miles thing to do in that scenario. And then what I do is I'd write a book about it. And then on my deathbed, I would release it. And then my kids would have a, you know, a plan that'd have to be set. Would you, would you be proud of your kids for releasing it? Or would you want them to kind of hold it. Well, I would release it because I'd want to be like, I'd probably go live on Instagram or TikTok.

You'd be like, here's my new book. I went, travels back, I'd know how they did it. Here we go. Nice. I would pass away. And then my kids would just have to deal with the flurry afterwards. Okay. All right.

You won't want to be there to answer follow-up questions or anything like that? No. Sit and relish in the fame of knowing about it. I don't do this for the fame, Charlie. Okay. Okay. I do this for the love of the game. Yeah.

I respect that about you, Miles. Thanks. I do. Well, those are some great historical events we brought up there. See, aren't you glad I asked? I am glad you asked. I'm a little disappointed that of everything in the world you picked the NFL championship.

I'd also like to go to one of the first Super Bowl. I'd also like to go to one of the like original circuses because those things were wild back in the day. Well, just think about there was no like OSHA. You're not going to do OSHA. Who regulates a circus? It is a workplace, but not like a job site. But you'd have to imagine putting some of those up, you know, who regulates the circus? You ever think about that?

It's not my circus, so it's not my monkeys. Yeah, not your monkey, not your circus. Well, anyways. I have a kid down, Charlie. I just don't need to be worrying about who's monitoring the circus. Oh, that's fine. I wonder how your kid feels about you reading on bedtime stories about molasses every night. You know, you can, just because you have a kid, Miles,

doesn't mean you can't, you know, indulge in a circus every once in a while. All right. All right. Circuses in the United States are primarily. regulated by the Federal Animal Welfare Act, which is enforced by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Oh, well, there you go. See? Now you can sleep at night. Learn something new every day.

Someone's keeping an eye on the circuses. Now you can sleep at night, Charlie. So you don't need to champion, you know, keeping circuses face or safe. Yeah. Do you have a stroke right there? I did. Okay. I smelled toast.

All right. Well, we should probably take some callers before. Before I crope, I got to write that book about the pyramids. I know. All right, let's do it. Hi, Tyler. This is Miles and Charlie from the Bellied Up Podcast. Hey, how are you, boys?

We're doing real good, Tyler. Heard you found something in a trunk. Oh, boy, do I got a story about this one. Okay. So I just recently moved. Is it a finger? No, but it could have been one on us. I haven't cleaned it out all the way.

I'm kind of scared to you now. That's my last interruption. Sorry. No, you're all good. So I just give you a little context. I just moved and I was, you know, looking for a little daily to drive. And my buddy had a car for sale and, well, we've been fixing it up so I can drive it. Pop the trunk open and, because we could, there's a really bad smell in there.

Well, we didn't really know what it was. Well, we popped the trunk and we found a notebook. In this notebook happened to be the previous owner's entire life. He spent a year in prison and this notebook was every day. he was in there. Wow. Oh, yeah. There was days.

He was counting down on a calendar. There was love letters, phone numbers, all sorts of stuff. And a little bit of blood on some paper. Okay. What was that entry about? There was a love letter to his girlfriend. I don't know if that came from him or sell me. Okay.

Wow. I mean, just a quick pause here. You're like, you should publish this. This is great. Honestly, he's got some good material in there. I can use it on my girlfriend. Dude, pop it open. Pop it open.

Do you have it with you right now? It's actually down in the car. Go down there. Go get it. It's about an hour drive down there. Oh, I thought you meant like downstairs. Okay. Okay, listen, we got to do a bellied update.

You're going to call back and we're going to get some passages read. Do we know what this person? name is, at least their first name? His name was Keith. Okay. Keith, and you know it's a was. Well, his name is Keith because, funny enough, the girl that he was writing to, there's more of this story.

Her phone number was in there, and I decided to give it a call. Oh, damn. This is cool. I am invested. And I gave it a call, and I'm not going to name names on it, but we'll just, for the sake of a story, name her. I don't know Shawna

what a poll I call her and I go hi is this Shawna she goes yeah who is this I tell her I was like my name's Tyler I found a notebook with your name in it complete radio static on the line

no response about 5 10 seconds thought line disconnected she goes where did you find the notebook and I was really concerned because I was like oh boy maybe I shouldn't have this notebook and I told her I was like

the dude's name is Keith and he had your number written out funny enough she's still with him to this day oh wow she goes yeah that's my boyfriend's notebook was it in his old car and I told him what the car was and she goes yep that's his old notebook

I didn't know do you try to get it back or is he just like yeah have phone with it I asked I was like do you want it back she's like no do whatever you want with it. Let's go. Dude. Well, we'll do a reoccurring

segment of the, from the diary of Keith. Yes. From the diary of Keith. I love that. First of all, I love that you called us with this information. That makes me so happy. Yeah. I was thinking about it. And my buddy that I bought the car from, he

listens to the podcast. And so do I. And I told him, I was like, I'll just throw my hat in the ring, see if they like it. And I guess you guys like the idea. Love the idea. So give us, have you read the whole notebook cover to cover? Cover to cover. I bet you're like a little schoolgirl like, ooh. His feet are kicked up behind him, you know. A little page turn. Did you start getting emotionally invested in this guy's life? Oh, yeah. No, me and my buddy's name's Caleb that listens to the podcast. We're both sitting there.

And it's about 8.830 at night. So we've got this light shining on the notebook. looking like a bunch of schoolgirls in the corner laughing and giggling at these three to four page long love letters in between, oh, this is today's date, is how many days I have left. And this was just last year. His last entry was from November 25. Oh. I thought this was like a 1970s kind of situation. Where was he locked up at? Locked up here in Utah.

I don't know if you know, how well if you guys know Utah? They don't serve beer in those prisons, I hear. No, sadly they don't. That's nothing but cold metal and mush. Do we know what he was in for before we go too far down the rabbit hole here? I don't know. I'm kind of scared to dig deeper into it because, you know,

one of the podcasts episodes from you guys was that missionary down in Mexico with the cartel. And I'm kind of worried he was also part of it because there's quite a few names in there that sound like they might be related to the carcuit. Oh, he's a Mormon then, huh? I don't know, but there's a high chance. Okay, okay, interesting. Well, let me ask you this now. What's the juiciest thing that you read in there?

Well, do we want to save it for the Diary of Keith or no? Yeah. I mean, there's plenty of good things in there, but one of the more interesting ones, he doesn't know how to spell the word lose. Lose? How does he spell it? Lose. there were

five different times he spelled it loose and then L-O-S-E L-O-O-O-O-E L-O-E-L-O-E-S-E Like he out of everything Fantastic handwriting for this guy

Might I add I can't spell the word Lose Maybe it's a code I hope not What was so loose That he was saying it all the time No

They were all in the love letters. He was writing to Shawna. Well, what was... Doesn't want a loser. Oh. Yeah. It was a loser. He didn't want to lose her.

He didn't want to lose her. No, he, he fantastic handwriting for a man trapped in prison. I don't know how he even got a pen in there. I didn't know they were allowed to have him. Oh, yeah. You can have a pen in prison. Yeah. How do you think they're going to make the shank?

So, we'll give us some highlights. Give us an overview. Yeah, like if this was a movie trailer, what would the movie trailer, what would it tell us about the story? Basically, a man's inability to spell the word lose, trying to fight to keep a relationship together while keeping track of the days left behind the bars. Okay.

All right. And what are some of the dramatics? Was she starting to see another guy at all? I, from how his entries were, I don't think so, because there was one entry where he was really excited because she came to visit him about three months into a sentence. Was it conjugal? Probably? No, those are really hard to get. Are they?

We, on our other podcast, you bet your radio, we have Patreon. And we do episodes there, and we have a segment called Prison Pals, where we, we're, we're, we're, we're, we. one of the patrons works at a prison and the warden of the prison approved that he could listen to our Patreon podcast while he was working with the inmates. And so that guy is now a, he writes us questions and answers to the prisoners. So essentially we are pen pals. That's great. through a podcast with guys in prison in Kansas, and we call it prison pals.

That's awesome. You're like Johnny Cash, man. Yeah. Kind of. That's awesome. The podcasting Johnny Cash. I'm going to subscribe to your Patreon now. Yeah.

And so we asked about conjugal and they said it's actually really hard to get. What do you have to do? I don't know. That's a great follow of question, Charlie. You should come on the Patreon podcast. I would love to come on and ask about. the conchicles um but yeah it's uh i don't it's actually turned into kind of a like fun thing that like one of the guys is like he because they have to like basically what where he's like

earning credits for something what was it custody credits or basically he's like used like him talking to us and telling his story on the podcast is like a good thing to help out his life afterwards that's awesome well that's awesome well that's You look at you doing a public service here, Miles. Good Samaritan. Hell, yeah. Well, that's cool. Check it out.

You bet your radio. Subscribe to the Patreon. So tell me, though, so you got, like, basically he's in this love, this relationship. He's trying to hold together. He's in prison. Any prison fights? There's nothing wrote down about it, but there's several pages that have some pretty big blotches that I thought was paint, but it's not pain. I'm coming up with a new way for red ink.

I don't think it's paint. Yeah, maybe you just got a paper cut. Fingers crossed, just a little paper cut. So it's basically like you, you have the, in your hands, you are possessing the prison version of the movie, The Notebook. Basically. By the way. In a nutshell.

So in a nutshell. We would like to buy the rights of this story. right here on the podcast, Charlie. Yeah, what can we offer you? Well, how about this? How about a little bit of a royalty split? Okay. All right, Mr. Wonderful.

Damn. Somebody watched Jerry McGuire before. Someone's watched Shark Tank. I was a lot of shark tank. A lot of shark tank. Is how does it, well, don't tell us how it ends. How does it start? It starts.

You open up the front cover, and the first thing you see, the best part about this the front cover is a book that says notebook property his name the Latter-day Saints below it yes

dude the Mormon prison chronicles I mean that's perfect though like if you're like hey you find out your boss follows you on Instagram you start posting about how much you love work you know it's like if the prison guards find his notebook they want him to think it's like a, you know,

journal about his faith of God. There you go. There you go. Smart man. You open it up and the first thing you see is a bunch of names. I'm pretty sure his credit card pins in there. Some addresses to his old apartment, some other addresses that I'm kind of,

but I'm kind of curious to look up and see where they take me. And then his first love letter. Okay. And how does this start? Dear Shauna, and I quote, from memory, just the first three words is, I'm good to swear on here, right? Because he puts a lot of exclamation into it. He goes, and I quote, I fucking in all caps, fully spelled out, all capitalization, love you, comma. I do not want to miss you or mess up this relationship, comma.

I don't want to L-O-O-S-E-U. I fucking love you. It's exactly that. Well, these are very punctual. These are also unsent love letters if they're in the journal. Yeah, I don't think she's even seen him.

It's like this man's dire. But also, dude, you got to think maybe these are rough drafts. So cut him some slack on the loose lose thing. So he might have. I cut him some slack on that. He might have wrote it down first in there and then copied it to a letter and sent it. to tour. That's true.

That's a possibility, but he's even though he can't spell it, we'll cut him some slack, but there's some good, there's some good references in there that I'm pretty sure if I change up the name a little bit and fix some of the wording and take the prison parts out, I might be able to make my girlfriend happy on Valentine's.

All right. So he's kind of a poet, you're saying. He's a poet who did some hard time. Had a lot of thinking. Well, how hard? I mean, it sounds like he was in there a year. I, that's when it's started. Like, that's when the notebook started.

I don't know how long prior. Okay. Okay. Interesting. So basically love letters and counting down prison time and some blood. What other highlights do we have? Well, the fact that it said Mormon, Latter-day Saints.

Yeah. Yeah. Right. It is the only thing that was not water damaged in the trunk of the car. Okay. And the cars, the car is kind of, kind of, sketchy i couldn't tell if it had been broken into in the past or not but the radio is ripped out everything's covered in dust dirt pigeon poo there's hay in the trunk like they were using it to move

hay bales you're a farm farm right off a little bit of a tax exempt on that one i guess yeah i'm sure that's what he's worried about maybe he was using it to hide the notebook who knows huh and you've read this whole notebook oh yeah oh yeah it's it's interesting Did it like, I wish I brought it with me? Did it like start to like take over your life a little bit? Like you're at work and you're just thinking about getting back to the notebook and reading it. Oh yeah. The next day I was sitting there.

I was at work. I'm like, man, I wish I brought that with me. That's some good reading material for launch. Yeah, I bet. I was invested in it. You'd have a three gold star novel seller right there. Does it get like 50 shades of gray erotic? Not not quite.

He kept it fairly clean. which putting this together, I feel like he might have taken the fall for something. He might not have done. Really? Oh, so you're starting to sympathize with him a little bit. I am slightly.

Are you starting to fall for him, too? Maybe. Wow. A little late night adventure go to the author himself. Yeah. Yeah, man, we could probably track him down. You already did track him down. He's alive and well, right?

How old is this guy? I could not tell you if I had a guess probably late 20s, early 30s Yeah Okay When I called his girlfriend She didn't she didn't sound too old

But she didn't sound young either That's good that she wasn't young That's like Yeah That would have been bad That would have been really bad You probably wouldn't need to turn that notebook over to someone If it was the case

I probably would have Yeah, was her name on the caller ID or was her mom's name on the caller ID? It's a very important detail here. It was her name on the caller ID. All right. That's very good. Good. So that was a good sign.

But the other numbers in there, they're kind of a scary thought. Have you called any of those numbers? No, because right next to him is a full-blown Hispanic name. If I try to say it, I'd probably sound like I'm trying to cast a spell. or something. God. I'd butcher the living hell out of it. All right. So any details about wrongs done or the crime?

No confessions. He talks about his court bait and open the go easy on him. That's so funny. But he doesn't, there's no confessions in there, no 50 shades of gray, but a lot of very well-worded, not not greatly spelled, but well-worded. love letters and time management, I guess is the word. I don't know. What do you mean?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, well, here's what we'll do. You get your hands on the notebook again, and we'll have you call back in, and we'll have you, we'll do a little diary, the diary of Keith's segment on the podcast. Yes. And we'll have you read a journal entry and we'll analyze it like it's poetry. I like the sound of that because I need to get my hands on the notebook so I can continue to read and get more invested into it. Yeah. It's quite the page turner.

All right. Well, you call back. We'll find a time. And why did the car smell so bad? Um, because the trunk seal was bad. Oh, so we could smell water like mildew, moldy hay,

some straw back there. Yeah. tracked down to that and led me to the notebook, the diary of Keith. I like it. I like it, man. The Keith's book. The book of Keith. The book of Keith. The book of Keith.

I'll get my hands on it and we're going to have a little story time. That would be wonderful. All right. Well, we look forward to it, man. Perfect. All right, dude. I'll give you my hands on let you know. Hey, we'll talk to you soon, all right?

I'll talk to you soon, boys. All right, bye-bye. And this is a good reminder to all you guys out there, you know. If you find any love letters or something. We, we, I don't know by you. I can't speak for you. Mm-hmm. But anything juicy will, we'll sink our teeth into on this podcast.

Oh, yeah. Any juicy details of any sort. We'd love to hear them. We like a little juice here. Mm-hmm. Thirsty. Thirsty boys. Sorry.

Didn't mean that. It's probably a weird conversation for our bartender to just pick up that part right there. sorry about that anyways let's take another caller he's literally never said that once on this podcast before well I was looking at a reaction

to you talking about juicy stuff and it's kind of weird with thirsty boys oh yeah thirsty boys yeah it's just sounded like he's not you know we're part business partners now anyways do another caller

all right hey miles I got a question for you yep go ahead have you broken in your brunt boots yet um the thing is charlie is you don't really need to break them in they kind of come already with the feeling of break of broken inness yeah brokenness yeah they're not broken they're broken in they're broken in you've already you know every time you get a new pair of boots you got to you got to give it a little bit to to feel right on the foot not these guys they like i don't know what they did and i got the steel toe like comp toe on here too chuck yeah and my other boots, I can, like, tell that it's got that, that toe on them. You know what I mean?

Gives you a little sense of security out there. Yes. You start carrying things maybe you shouldn't because you're like, worst case scenario, this isn't going to mess up my big toe. That's true. Or my little toe. But what I'm saying is my other ones, you can tell that it's got a steel toe on it. These, I forget, I got a steel toe on it. Oh, so sometimes you're that cautious. You're even cautious with what you're carrying because you're like, shoot, I don't have a steel toe on these suckers. Correct. Yeah. That's wild. But they're just, they're comfortable steel toe boots. And I like that about them.

Yeah, I like that too. I also like just like the look of them. I go running in them. Do you? Yeah. In your steel toe boots? Yeah. Okay.

I go. Charlie goes running in his steel toe boots. I do, I do all my 5Ks in my boots. Okay. Yeah. I like the extra steel in the toe because it's like, you know, 5K, I mean, run a full marathon, right? but if you got that little extra heft, it builds up the quadriceps.

Yeah, just an extra workout. Yeah. So, guys, if you are, if your runners out there, I want to invest in a pair of Brunt's workwear boots. Yeah, you won't forget the, you know, I forget what the name of running shoes are, but one of them, insert any I-Cloud, hookah shoe, whatever. Forget it.

Go with Brunt. You can run a mile. and then go, you can run to the job site. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yep. And Charlie, you know, knowing you, you got to do a lot of running on the job site

because you got to keep going back to the truck because you forgot something. Yeah. I do have a tendency to forget things. Yes. Yes. And also, uh, anytime I'm doing stuff at my house, it's not just forgetting it. It's, oh, I got to go back to the hardware store. Now you just run there in your brunt boots.

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10 bucks. Heck yeah. All right, folks. We are here with the Midwest lawyer himself, Mr. Russell Nicolet. Welcome back to the podcast. Good, sir. Yeah, thanks for having me. Fun to be here.

Good to see you guys again. So Russell, I got a question for you, man. Who's like the MJ of lawyers? Yeah, who's the Michael Jordan of lawyers? You know, I love to say myself, I think. Well, yeah, let's just for this sake. We'll just say, you're Scotty Pipp. Hey, you're right there.

Well, that might have a lot of weight with it. But what I would say is if you're looking at me, there's all kinds of different lawyers. There's been some really great lawyers out there. There was a guy, Jerry Spence. He's like a legend. What a name. Yeah, Jerry Spence. He was pretty much.

undefeated in like he originally was doing what we call like some insurance defense work but then he became like a criminal defense lawyer and a personal injury lawyer for people that are injured and I don't think he ever lost the case he lived out in Wyoming and had this like a ranch where he taught people skills

and so I'd say he probably would be an MJ he had a ranch where he taught people skills and he never lost did he bring jurors to this ranch? to teach them skills what's the real story here I he if you ever like if you were able to see him or talk to him he just had a way he was just a really good at connecting with people and like using analogies and yeah he did this thing too at the end of some of his cases where he would

give this story about a bird in his hand and ultimately whether the bird would live or die was up to the hand which was them and like he just did it it was there was people that had actually filed motions to not allow him to talk. They would ask the judge, like, hey, to limit it because they felt like he hypnotized or, like, did something. Too charismatic. Like, if he wasn't a lawyer, he'd be like a serial killer. Or like a really smooth politician. Is he still around?

No, he passed away. He was really, I mean, towards the end of his life, he was obviously, you know, a lot different getting really old. but he just recently passed away within the last 12 months. You have a name of his game tape? We could get some of his game tape. That'd be cool to see. He wrote a couple books too. Give the books a shout out.

I'm kind of curious. I don't know the name. I have them, though. But I can tell you one of the things that was really fun for me is like two years ago, I met like one of his, like an apprentice of his. Yeah. And we learned the dark arts of trial. The dark arts of trial?

Well, I don't know what that means, dude. It's basically convincing someone to have an open mind about what they're going to decide. So, and I don't, you know, one of the things would be, for example, if you are a criminal offense lawyer, which I am not, you're talking to the jury in what we call a voir dire before when you're picking the jury, right? And he's, he's defending someone that potentially murdered someone, right? So he needs to get the jury to think, I as a jury. could murder someone, right? So you start talking about self-defense. Like, is there a, could you leave room open?

There is a possibility that there's a situation where each one of you would have to take someone's life. And so there's like that it's, it's a little bit of, uh, he's priming the pump early on. Yeah, but he's not, he's not starting in the courtroom. He's starting way earlier. It's a lot, it uses a lot of psychology, but look, those lawyers are from, you know, they kind of invented some of the modern trial. But they're, they're like, you know, geniuses in a way. but they've done a, like I said, MJ type lawyer. That's pretty wild.

Do they teach you, though, sort of a lot of those rhetorical skills? Like, is there a college that's studying? Was it Jerry Sage? Jerry Spence. Jerry Spence. Jerry Sage. That's an erotic adult star from the 80s. But this guy has a mustache?

Yeah. But Jerry Spence, I mean, are there like law schools that study his rhetorical style? or there might be but like he had his own jerry spence trial lawyers college where you'd go out you go out and live i never got to do this i had the opportunity when i was a lawyer it's a while you go out there for like three weeks and you live at the ranch and you learn these things um i just i was able to read some of his books and like i said i met one of his kind of second in command guys and worked with him and actually trained with him for a while um so but yeah that's there's a whole underworld of lawyering i was just gonna say man that you get that it's like it's

like a coaching tree. Like Nick Sabin's got his coaching tree, you know? Yeah. This guy clearly has a coaching tree. The whole come out to my ranch and I'll show you my, uh, my style. Is there a train station by that ranch or no? There might be. There might be like yellow stone style. Like, if you decide that you're not going to get the brand or whatever. Yeah. I don't. Yeah, you should have had that guy show him his brand. Yeah. Well, we, I think one of the lawyers that, yeah, one of the new lawyers at our office has was at that college. So I should ask him if he's got a brand. I will.

You got to dig into that man. Figure out what it was like. Yeah, I will. I will. Find out if what's the underbelly. Any creepy stuff going on? That's a show right there. I think it's quite the adventure and experience.

So I'm in like some of the things that they teach you psychodrama. You might know, like I don't know if you've ever dealt with psychodrama, but like putting yourself and walking yourself through trauma and putting yourself in other people's, viewpoint, right? Like your client. You know, you've done maybe some of that when you learn that, like through acting. Yeah.

They work on a lot of that. And I've done that stuff, not with him directly. But I can imagine, like, being out somewhere doing that stuff for like three weeks straight. Like, it would be quite the story. No, that's, I took some weird acting classes at one point with, and they, they kind of break you down. They break down your, uh, your inner or whatever. And then they, uh, a lot of them, uh, like, they just sort of yell at you kind of stuff. Like, what do you mean?

They had a hard time break. me, you know, I was like, I grew up like this. Come on. Yeah, you're just like, this is baseline. Yeah, you're going to have to try a lot harder to get me to cry. If you want to break me down, just start being nice to me. Just start complimenting me. That'll make me squirm. I think, right, because if you grew up in the Midwest, you and you had a Midwest dad, like, you've been yelled that pretty much for everything. Yeah. Yeah, you grew up knowing that you weren't shit. And I actually think that's the way to make, if you want to make it,

if you want to make it a midwest or uncomfortable, don't be mean to them. You'd be like, you give them compliments and they won't know what to do. We can't answer. handle that. That's true. People on this podcast and I just start squirming. They start complimenting us. I know. I know. I, oh, God. Like, Miles, if your dad came up to you and said, man, I'm really proud of you. Well, one, that's like the only thing I want in life. Yeah, but you know, so it's like, it's like accomplishing a dream. And then it's, but then afterwards, you're like, oh, shit, I accomplished every dream I ever set out to do. What do I do now? You know, it's really going to mess with me psychologically. Thankfully, Miles, I don't think Bud's going to give you that anytime.

No, no, no, no. Yeah. So, and thank God. Thank God. Because we got a lot more years of this podcast. It's got one of those things. It's like, do I actually want to achieve that dream or not? Because I think it would be pretty weird if he said that to me.

I agree. Yeah. Well, um, shout out to Jerry Sage. Spence. Jerry Spence. Shout out to Jerry's, not the porn star. Sorry. I'm just, I'm thinking of.

the 80s right now. Six for six in the NBA finals. Jerry Spence. Yeah. Jerry Sage. Yeah. Old Jerry Sage. No,

Jerry Spence. Okay. I'm going to get you guys each a copy of one of his books because I think you actually like to read it even if you're not interested. I'd love to read it. It's a super interesting story that he has and like his life story and then just his thoughts on life now that he's gone. And he's pretty wide.

He was a wise guy. So I mean like very, I think you'd enjoy it. So I'll get his copies. Hell yeah, man. Now, one last question on that. Do you think he was undefeated because he was a good lawyer or because he was just the best at picking the cases he wanted to do? He took on really hard cases from what I understood.

And there's some, like if you Google him, you'll see he took on some public cases like defending folks. And so I think it was just he was that level lawyer, man. He was the MJ. Now, okay, but if you're the MJ of lawyers like that, then the, you know, you got to have, he must have. some famous criminals. He did.

I mean, I myself don't do criminal defense, but he did do criminal defense. What's a famous criminal he grabbed? I can't, you know, I can't think of the top of my head, but he talks about some,

and, you know, some of the things are, because he's obviously older than we are. You know, I'm older than you guys too, but, um,

so some of the things that would have been more famous and in the news, I would have been like a kid probably. Okay. Or at me in high school. Not alive. Yeah. So not paying attention as much.

I see. I see. But he was taking on hard cases. That's, that's, That's wild. I'd love to read about that. I like hearing about how people get into the human psyche. Yeah. Yeah. Well, cool, man. It's been great. Yeah, thanks for having me. Thanks for asking me about we get to talk more lawyering out here at the bar.

Yeah. Nothing like it. Nothing. You want to sip in my old fashion? Well, I might need that here. So where can the folks find you if they end up injured and need some help? Yeah, unfortunately, you can't find me at a ranch in Wyoming, but you can find me at a ranch in Wyoming. but you can find me at nicolaylaw.com or you give us a call at 1-855-N-I-C-O-L-E-T. Hello there, Mike. It's me, Charlie, your buddy on the bellied-up podcast. I'm here with my buddy, Miles, so you betcha guy. How you doing?

I'm doing great, Charlie. How about you? Doing wonderful. We know that you have put some thought into being the mayor of your town and what you would do. Yes. All right. Great thought. Yeah. If you were so, let us know, what would you do?

If you were the mayor of your town for one day, what would you do? So this would be it. I would make sure that there would be no bikers in town, like cyclists. They drive me crazy. He's an anti-bike guy. I mean, great exercise, but, I mean, they take up the road. They're not very nice. they wear stuff that's way too tight.

It's just, it's just a whole thing. We did a whole video on this concept, actually. One of our underrated videos, I think. What town are you in? So we live in Connecticut. It's a town called Redding. So it's a small town. Okay.

And there's, there's probably not any bike lanes there to begin with, are there? There's no bike lanes. There's no sidewalks. It's a very hilly community. So, you know, if there's, you know, four or five sets of folks, you know, the cars can't go by. It's very dangerous. You don't want to hit anyone.

So it's, it's, it's, it's very complicated. Got it. Now, have you suggested this? Is there a big biking community there? Is this just a few spandex folks? You know, I think the Spandex folks have have multiplied and there's there's just a ton of them. And has it gotten, has it gotten worse?

Did it get worse during COVID? So we didn't live here before, but we lived in Massachusetts prior. But I actually had a run in in Massachusetts with a biker while I was running. So I don't know if it just followed me down here or what, but it's just it's not looking. good. Wait, you had to run him with a biker while you were running? I did. So I was running. You know, if when I'm, when I'm running, I don't know, Charlie, I think you're, you're a runner. And Miles, I'm sure you, you, you at least elipto-size. So I was thinking that. That is the nicest way to call someone fat.

You're, you're very handsome. It's the nicest way to call someone fat ever. You're in a lip-lipthicizer. So, well, if you're running on the road, right, you want to face the traffic, or at least I do. So I know a car is not going to hit me. But that's the way the bikers go too. That's not correct. That's not what they're supposed to be doing.

No, bikers should go with traffic. Correct. So I was all bent out of shape. So we're facing each other. And he's like, I'm running on the road and not the town we were in had sidewalks. And he's like, use the sidewalk. And it happened a couple times where he's yelling at me. And he followed me home one time.

And it was like, you know, you really got to stop using the road to run. You got to run on the sidewalk. Did you tell him to share the road with runners? You know, I was just like, yeah, you know, sorry about that. And that was the end of it. Oh, so you said, sorry to his face. And now you're calling the podcast to complain about him. I guess, you know, that might be the gist of it.

But, you know, that sounds about right. What's the podcast? What's a podcast version of a keyboard warrior? Call-in warrior? Yeah. Well, we don't, yeah. We have a call-in podcast, so it's not typical. So I don't think there is a phrase.

We can make one, though, if you want, Miles. That's what I'm trying to do. Oh, I thought you were trying to recall an actual phrase. Sorry, I misunderstood. Sorry, I didn't understand what you said, Miles. That's what we're doing right now. See how he laughs at me and not with me? Do you see what I'm dealing with here?

He assumed you were a runner, dude. Just let me have this one, all right? We got to give it to miles. We got to let them let them elipatize about it later. So you got a real hard on for these bikers, huh? You know, I don't know if I put it that way. I mean, I heard that bike riding is cause of impotence. So I would think I probably, they probably don't have hard ons,

but, you know, I certainly don't. Everything you're saying is like you're reporting for a WPR, NPR or whatever. You're actually very excellent at talking shit about people without it sounding bad. With the most pleasant. Yeah. You sound like a mayor right now, to be honest. Like, you could do. I'm going to sell this still.

You could do a service where it was like people pay you to call their boyfriend or girlfriend and just let them down easy. Yeah. But still get some shots in there. Yeah, yeah. Let them know how they feel, but in a nice way. You know, if perhaps you ellipticized a little more, we could have avoided this. But so... So our time here is come to an end.

How many girls have you broken up with or fellas? You know, I'm married with three kids. So, you know, that I... Did not answer the question. All I know is my life. That's it? It's, that's it. you know, high school, sweetheart, so all the way through.

We actually, we met in Boston, actually. So we've been, we've been together for 14 and a half years, very. Okay, hold on, buddy. We're not going past this. Why don't you want to tell us how many girls you broke up with or got broke up with? Oh, because I only, I only, I only, I only had my wife. Oh, okay. I thought you were doing that as like a bit.

Yeah. We can't tell. No, no, no, no. no yeah yeah if any of them you know i i would hope they're bikers and they get hit by a car but um i didn't you don't have to do that all all right so you met in college or what we we met actually in south boston uh we went to the same school but um different different years so we missed each other uh in school okay got it so you are high school sweet arts got it yeah you know we it's um it's been it's been fun she doesn't bike so that's a good thing she does she does have a peloton ironically oh no that's

stationary does that make you feel when she brought that because that's a gateway drug right there next thing you know she's going to be getting a cannondale so far so far i've avoided that but what do you think you would do if your wife started cycling oh boy i mean i don't have to run for mayor and and pass this past this law but it's or else, you know. Damn, do you think that would be grounds for divorce? Is it till death to us part or two biker shorts do us part? Um, you know, maybe, no, no, no, not at all.

Not at all. Maybe. Wow. Wow. She doesn't listen to this. More so maybe like, maybe that would never happen because I had passed this law. and it'd be, you know, it'd be finalized. Yeah, right, right.

Listen to them dance around those words that came out of his mouth. Okay, well, let me back up a little bit and let you know something. I used to be a bicycle mechanic. Okay. Okay. I have built myself many a bike and occasionally I ride those bikes. And some might say I bike often. So you might be talking to a biker.

Now I'm not wearing tight stuff because I like... Fuck off. What? We said, hey, we need for our driver versus biker sketch, we said we probably want to put the biker in some biker shorts and a tight jersey. Yeah. And you said, I'll bring mine. Right. I have them.

I don't wear them. What do you wear that? I wear. So let me, let me defend my, um, honor here. I wear biker shorts because they pad the balls, but I wear a reasonable fitting thing over it because my biker shirts do not have pockets. Okay. And I like to have pockets because I have my wallet there and my keys. Okay. So I'm not out there in the biker shorts. Don't worry, Miles. But, but, but, um, the jerseys, I'm always, I'm always,

also not a huge fan of because they are just kind of annoying. What they are good at, though, is bright colors. But usually I don't, I don't wear it because I just, it's at my office and I'm not very organized. But I don't, usually when I'm biking, also I'm biking through the woods. Occasionally, mostly on a path, but I do get what you're saying about like the biking on the roads because I've done that before and it's as a biker it's kind of terrifying I would go with my buddy who loved doing it and and this this was out in the hills in Los Angeles when I lived out there after school and it's terrifying I was like every time I was like Matt this is a bad idea we like what I'm going 40 miles down we're on these little skinny ass tires and then there

cars whizzing by and they're not happy. You know, it's, it's only a matter of time. So what, what if you were mayor? What if you made bike lanes? Ooh. I don't think so, you know, the, it sounds like the taxes are going to go way up. That's true. Well, what if the bikers paid for them?

I still have to say no. I mean, you know, I just don't, I think they get like a certain charge out of it. Like, let's, let's make sure the cars can't pass. you know make them mad i i think i just think they're out they're out to get people and and and we're going to stop us well their own safety what are what's your hobby what do you like to do for for fun or exercise or whatever because you know you're over there on your high horse i imagine you must be pretty fit talking shit about my elliptical you placed us bolt off in this conversation i i apologize um no not not my intent

So I just, I walk. I, I, I, we have two dogs. We walk the dogs and it's a, it's a hilly area. So, you know, I still see the, the bikers out there. And, you know, they, you know, they, like, they terrorize the dogs now. So it's, it's gone from bad to worse. How do they terrorize the dogs? You know, I think they just get a little bit closer and the dogs are all scared of the wheels.

And, you know, they're, they, it's just. It's not good. Yeah. Sure would be a shame if, you know, you were walking by and you had a walking stick and it slipped out of your hands and ended up in their spokes, you know. It's crossed my mind. But I figured let's take the, let's take a more, you know, prudent approach and let's just pass some laws to legislate of agenda. Exactly. What about the big bike lobby?

How are you going to fight those guys who don't like to see regular? on the roads. They're anti-regulation, those bike lobby people. Well, I haven't fought that far ahead. You know, that's a fair point. We, you know, cross that bridge when we get there, I think. Okay. All right. And did all of this start when you and that biker had that little tiff? Do you kind of wish you told him to go F himself with his bike seat instead of just saying sorry? I kind of did. You know,

I kind of did wish that I did that. And I think you're right, Charlie. I think that's, that was, that's, this is what started at all. I mean, um,

why, why, why can't we just share the road? Why not? Well, also let's, we, why can't we,

that's what the bikers are asking. Why can't we just share the road? And I think I'm also, you said you're from Boston? I'm from Massachusetts originally. So I'm from Central Mass, but I've lived in Boston for a lot. Okay. I thought people from Boston would say a little bit more than thank you.

You know, I thought you guys were mass holes. No, no, you know, I think that's somehow. Some people think that way. But, you know, I always try to be kind. Okay. And so. Okay. He likes to be kind, Miles.

Does he seem kind on this call? He does, actually. He insulted us very kindly. I mean, it is the nicest way I've ever. been kind of insulted. You have a true talent that way, by the way. Thank you. So what are the, what are the bikers in your town supposed to do?

You know, if they can't be on the road, you don't want them there. Where are they supposed to do their business? So I think part of what we do is we say, if you do want to bike, right? You need to make sure that you bike between the hours of 4 a.m. and 7 a.m., first of Okay, yeah, kind of like a, like at a pool, they have adult swim where all the kids got to get out of the pool, kind of like a cyclist hour around town. Why not, you know? Is it no cars then? I think fewer cars.

And then, you know, most likely, you know, they can have like little little light up vests and stuff, like red vests that they take as they turn the corners. you know, probably less fewer cars out there. So I think it's a win-win. Yeah, you know what? I don't hate that, actually. Yeah. Yeah, it's just like, hey, if you're going to bike, do it in the night time when no one can see you, you know?

Exactly. Yeah, why not? What about the guys who are biking the work because they got a Dewey and. Yeah, what about those guys that are riding the Huffy to work? Yeah. You know, I think around here, it's. they're more, they're probably, it's very hilly around here. So I think they're, they're trying to get a burn.

I don't think that that situation crops up. So. I guarantee you. So you're saying that there's no dewees going on in your town? I mean, I don't think so. I would hope not. If you're, you got a, you got a Dewey, you're driving around on a bike. You know, that's even worse.

Well, we're not saying that they're drunk while they're riding the bike. We're saying that they're kind of get to work so they can pay. further do we find? I mean, it would probably be a hall, but I do think that I think sorry.

I think it's, you know, get there, get to work early and, you know, maybe stay late. And that's how you, that's how you do it.

You want them to get to work at 4 a.m. and leave at 6 a.m. I think so. I think, you know, an honest day is work, you know. okay all right hey you know what every every uh tiff starts with a tiff and then it you get you guys start putting some pen to paper on this so you you get out there and you write that legislation and you

send it into us and we'll uh we'll run it through our legal team chat gbt okay see what kind of eyes need to be crossed teas need to be uh mild teed yeah teed and uh you know we'll go from there does that sound? That sounds good to me. Have you ever ridden a bike? You know, when I was a kid, I did have a hoffy. Yeah, did you? Let them have it, Charlie.

I can tell you you didn't want to let them go before you. Let them have it. I just want to know. Get into it. You rode a hoffy when you were a kid. What happened on that bike? Someone hurt you? You know, so actually, when I was in the neighborhood and we were riding two, they were on a corner.

My friend's dad was pulling our. around the side. It's like, what the hell are you doing? You're in the middle of the road. You're going to get by a car. Uh-huh. I think last time I touched the bike. That was it.

It's a childhood trauma. You little childhood trauma. I think hurt people, hurt people. And now you're letting the fear that your buddy's dad instilled in you guide your life. And instead of understanding that your candle had been snuffed out by your friend's father and saying, maybe I can reignite my light, you want to snuff out everyone else's light. And maybe that's what's wrong with the world today.

I mean, that got very like 3D chess for me. But that was, I like it. You might have your own to something. So this is what I want you to do. I want you to go to the bike store. Okay. You got a good job? Well, I certainly wouldn't take a bike to the bike store, but I suppose I would drive.

Okay, well, you drive to the bike store and ask if you can just test ride a bike, okay? Have them fit you up for one and say, can I just test ride this? And I promise you'll be able to do it because it's just like riding a bike. Exactly. You get back on that thing. You might see some, you might see some little memories creep up, a little bit of pain, a little bit of sadness. But keep riding through that. Find yourself a hill.

Push through that sadness on that. hill and see how you feel on your way down that hill. Put yourself in their biker shorts. Bike a mile. I'm not sure I'm buying it. No, just test drive. You don't have to buy the bike. Yeah, we didn't say buy it.

Yeah. I don't know. I might need some training wheels or something, you know. It's just like riding a bike. I promise you can do it. Mm-hmm. I just, I don't know if I'd enjoy it. Well, you're scared.

You're scared. Hey, it's okay. We're here. I'm scared too about some things sometimes. I'm a little spooked, you know. But I could try it, but I still think, you know, if I, you know, I hate to be that person. Let's say this does work out, right? And I go to the bike store, get this new bike.

And, you know, I really like it. Now I'm the asshole in the middle of the road. Someone's going to hit me. You know, I think I'm so cool because I've got my tight biker shorts on. I just, I don't know. I don't, I see. I don't like those tight biker shorts, though, don't you? All that running you've been doing might look good in some biker shorts.

It could, you know, could. But then what do I do with the dogs? You know, I was supposed to, they need their walks and stuff like that. So doesn't mean there's not enough hours in the day for both of them. That's true. Do your kids have bikes? They don't. because of my stance on bikes.

This is crazy by the way. I thought you were doing a bit. This is, I'm sorry, but this is getting to be a lot. Miles, we are making progress. So because the bad man's not here anymore, dude. Just so your, your buddy's dad. What's his name? My friend's name or the dad's,

his name is Rich. Rich, go ahead. So because Rich, when you were a kid, just told you to bike on the sidewalk because you were like eight and actually could get hit by a car because you don't know what you're doing in the middle of the road. You vowed to never ride a bike again. You've now have a vendetta against bikers your whole life. And now you're robbing your children from the enjoyment of the open road on a set of two wheels,

all because of the bad man, rich. Don't forget the guy in town. Oh, yeah. How can I forget him? Yeah. So you add him into the mix. That's how we are where we are today. Yeah, I think.

And then just if you take up so much of the road, I think it's just, it's just that. I bet the other guy who, like, yelled at me. I bet his name is Rich too. Come to think of it. We learn a lot about society on this podcast.

I think we do, Miles. I think we do. I think that a lot of today, problem could be solved from just letting go of the of the of the of the of the of the riches in our life dicks the got to let go of the dicks in your life you got to do it yep got to do it i know somewhere deep down inside you you want to put a a bike jersey on maybe some shorts you might do it when no one's home look in the mirror and do a little spin yeah You might go on your wife's Peloton when she's not looking.

Just to see how it feels. Just to see how it feels. A saddle. Just to feel a saddle underneath your loins. Saddle underneath your loins. And you might wonder, you might even turn on one of the video on that Peloton and say, let's ride the hills today. And you might look at that screen and visions of your childhood may creep back in.

Let them creep. Let them explode in your imagination. and if Rich comes in, say, hey, Dick, I'm holding mine right now. And by me holding it, I'm in the saddle. I'm in the saddle of life. You know, don't force Dick out. Just force the dick in. Oh, but.

As described, I probably won't do this. We didn't describe that that's what you're going to. We know you've already done this, dude. We know you have. And your secret's okay with us. It's safe with us. We're not going to tell anybody. No.

So we think we know what you got to do, and we think you know what you got to do, too. Go to that bike store. You can wear your shorts under your slacks. No one will know. It's, you know, maybe it's okay to cry. It's okay to cry. give me a minute.

Strong men cry. That's right. It's right. It's, it's just a, it's maybe, maybe what we need to do is have some,

like, maybe just pass some laws and like just, just doing the trust. Dude, I think you need to see a therapist about Rich. I seriously think, you know, I like to think that a lot of problems

can be solved yourself. I think you just got to go see professional help about Rich. It could be rich. You never know. And that's where we got to progress starts somewhere, right? It does. It does. And that's all we ask is you just keep an open mind. So, listen, go home to your wife, go home to your kids and tell them, tell them you love them. But when you say you love them, know what you're really saying is we might be getting. bikes. Your wife wants it. You know, she does. She brought one into your home. Mm-hmm. And I got news for you. There's a bike locked up outside the CBS in town. You're wondering, why is that bike always there? That lady's bike, 54-centimeter frame. You ask your wife about that bike

some time. See her pupils get wide. Then you call us back. All right. It sounds like a plan. We'll do. I'll keep you posted. All right. Well, thanks for calling in, dude.

This has been great. Watch out for bikers and tell Rich who he says hi. I will. I will. Yes. Well, thanks guys for having me. And I hope you have a great week. All right. Clip into those pedals, pal.

We'll talk soon. What were you getting at with the last thing about the CVS? You're saying that his wife keeps the bike at CVS so he doesn't know about it? She's stepping out on him. Pedaling out on him. She's pedaling out on you, buddy. We know it. You know it.

It's okay to just let it ride. I totally thought he was doing a bit the whole time. And then I realized that, oh, this might be real. Yeah, I think he's got to get on a bike before he ends up with a biker in his trunk. I do. My film. Well, Chuck, this is another good episode of the Bellied Up podcast. Yeah, it's been great.

Good to hang with you here. Get on over to Hulgin's, folks. Fargo, North Dakota, West Fargo, actually. and West Fargo I was born and raised at whoigans I spent most of my debt Don't forget to tip your bartender We'll see in the next one

Okay Hope you guys have a good one Goodbye now Toodoo