Bellied Up - Charlie is Scared Of Robots #107

Episode Date: June 27, 2024

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Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Bellied Up Podcast. I am your host, Charlie Barron's, and this is my beautiful co-host. Miles, the you bet you guy. Paul. Yeah. Feel that beat walking down the street in my old Ford, looking at the gal saying, how are you doing? Lord, it's a beautiful day out, isn't it?

Won't you want a brandy? Yeah, sure. Got an old fashioned rocking at the supper club. It's a great place. Call it the packing house. You want to have a fish fry too? Baby, come on. Hey, I can't rhyme after that, but yeah.

Yeah, Charlie, not too bad. Look at that, that was right off the top of the dome. It is so hard to listen to you I can't rhyme after that but yeah, yeah That was right off the top is all hard to listen to you and beatbox Time, you know, you're a really good beatbox. Oh, thanks. That's the only one I got though. I mean geez Charlie I do think your next album should be a rap album. You know what? I feel like you've inspired me Do you want to be DJ? My old DJ YB or DJ YP? What's your thing? What's your call out? Like your DJ Khaled. What is it? I did it in that one song that I did do could do something like, uh, uh, you could do it like, Hey, put it on Charlie's tab. Oh, that's good. That's good. But Charlie, what would you title

your rap album? Straight out of Wisconsin. Perfect. There you go. I mean, this absolute softball question for you. Yeah. I mean, that was a pretty easy one. You know, let's see here. Regulate the supper club, you know, Charlie B. Regulate. And you do fish bones in harmony. Oh, that's really good. That's good. Yeah. You know, I could talk about like not not drive bys, but five stand, you know, where I'm or or I guess

what's the one where you walk to different stands? That's not five stand. I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, just shooting stuff. Clay pigeons. Oh, OK. What's the one that's like golfing? I always forget the names like trap shooting or skeet shooting. And there's a specific they got a specific name for it. I thought they had a specific name for it.

Maybe it's just at this one place I go. Anyways, yeah. Yeah. You could talk about shooting the rabbit shotgun whip and pheasants out of the area. Instead of pistol whip, you're now shotgun weapon. Do you think you could make it as a rapper, Charlie? That's the sound it makes in duck hunt when you hit the clay pigeons. Do you think you could make it as a rapper, Charlie? Yeah, I would be known for like, you know, how like there are those service sound effects in the back.

And they're like, what was I have like duck calls? Yeah, that or a turkey little turkey scratcher. That could be a good idea. Maybe a rattle bag in the back, and they're like, what was I have like duck calls? Yeah. Or a turkey little turkey scratcher. That could be a good idea. Maybe a rattle bag in the background. Oh, yeah. Rattle bag. That'd be nice. Or it's already percussion. Or it could be the the repose.

Just shaking them like a little maracas. Yeah. Mm hmm. I think that that's a good. I really think you should at least do one rap song on your next album. Yeah. Just for funsies, you know, just see if maybe, you know, I wouldn't be like Eminem. I'd be like, you'd be more like a little Dickie. Let's be honest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I don't have any actual experiences like Eminem does. Like, yeah, you're Midwest cheap. So you would have definitely wrote the song, uh, saved that money. That little Dickie. So I think you could align with him. Maybe get a coal lab going. I doubt he would collab with me, but

you know what? I'm just the dream collab for me is you, Miles. So as long as you say yes to me, I'm just living the dream. All right. Perfect. All right. Well, so we use some callers. Let's do it. Let's do it. Hello. Welcome to the Bellied Up podcast. Who are we talking to today? Actually made it through. How's it going, boys? Good. How are you? Good. You got

Jeremy from Dallas. Jeremy. Jeremy. What's going on today? From Dallas from Dallas from Dallas, Texas. Yes, sir. How do you want? Nice to see you. Howdy my guy. You got cowboy boots on right now. No, I'm just I'm just southern as I get out. I don't I'm actually at work right now. Oh, okay. Where do you work? I actually work in the call center. Believe it or not. I am a sign language interpreter. You're a sign language interpreter. I am. That is my job.

At a call center? I work at a call center. I interpret phone calls all day. Yes, sir. Okay. Huh. I didn't know that job existed. Can you walk us through what your day-to-day looks like? Well, basically, so how it works, basically, it's called a sort of relay service. I'm not getting into all the technicals and the specifics of everything, but basically I have a camera set up on me, right? And so me and the deaf person can see each other. And so they would be, you know, signing an American sign language to me. And I would

be making a phone call to somebody else who can hear and they would sign to me. I speak to them. They'd speak to me. I signed to them and then go back and forth like that. And I do that about 150 times a day. So if you're a deaf person, you hire you to make calls essentially. Well, see, that's a thing. You don't have to hire me. It is paid for by the government because it's, it's all, it's all in the, the, um, from the name of access and equality and spirit, uh, Americans with disabilities, like ADA. Yeah, that's great. That's cool. I didn't know that was the thing. I mean, it makes

sense. It does make a cool job. Yeah. Because, yeah, because think about it. Um, you have the right to make a phone call to whoever you damn well please. And sort of deaf people, they have the right to call whoever they damn well please. Absolutely. I like that. My head's got tons of questions. What's been the- I have tons of answers. Yeah. What has been the weirdest thing you've had to sign? You know, was there any like phone sex going on? Did you have to, what do you do it situations like that? Really?

Well, well, the thing is I am, can, I am bound by federal law to interpret everything that I, that I hear and see. It is like, I'm not even kidding because, because it is a relay service through the phones. Yeah. It is governed by, by the federal communications commission. And I am contractually obligated by law to interpret every single thing that I see or see. It is all in the name of access.

OK. Well, give us the details. What was maybe a kinky call that you had? Well, that's another thing. I am also not allowed to tell because of COVID-19. Yeah, but you don't have to give names. I'm also X-Rex did not let the towel because of my hand. Yeah. But you don't have to give names or prison federal. Ah, they have good food there. They have good food there. Well, you don't have to say it. You don't have to say it. Just sign it to us right now. Yes. Because you'll be able to see what I'm signing to

the phone. Yeah. Sign it through the phone. Oh, no. Wow. That is kinky Charlie. I mean, he's getting hot and bothered. Just, I mean, I, I have done, I've done everything. It's, it's actually a really cool job, but that's not why I'm calling boys. Why are you calling? Okay. Sorry. Well, it's all right. Miles. Um, I first thing's first. I do have a question for y'all. Um, what is y'all's favorite? Not curse curse word. Um, like for example, like, like if you like stub your toe, right. And you're not allowed to curse. What do you say? Because I'm from the south and border in the tech is my go to his biscuits this biscuits Because I'm because something happened I'm still my telephric and funny Yeah Yeah, but what the old favorite not curse curse word Charlie. Why don't you go ahead? I know you've been itching to get get that out Fungus really I like I like Frick or Fricker. Fricker, Fricker. But those are parallel.

Those are parallel. Frick Frick was a bad word for me growing up. You couldn't say Frick Frick and could get away with a freaking frowned upon, though miles frowned upon a little more creative. I like them all. I like ball sack. Oh, ball sack. So your toe ball sack. Yeah. I mean, that's just a good one.

Yeah, I do like ball sack. Yeah. Yeah. Biscuits and ball sacks. That'd be funny. That's your rap. Biscuits and ball sacks. Yeah. But you stub your toe. Put that on your balls. You know, BNB, I put that on a shirt. Yeah.

Good question. Good question. What's your other question? Absolutely. So, um, with today being, um, believe it or not, today is actual national interpreter appreciation day. So having to be, Hey, we appreciate what you do. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. So there is, I do have an actual question to get to, but there is a PSA public service matter that I want to get to. It is a pet peeve of mine and I want to let it to be known if you or anybody is ever in a conversation with a deaf person, the one thing that please do not do is say, you know, tell him, tell her that just speak directly to them. Okay. Got it. Good to know that that's so super good to know. I don't think I mean, it's just a very natural thing to do that. So so like if if Miles is deaf and I and you were interpreting, I'd just be like, look, dude,

I don't know. Like, I just talked directly to Miles. And why is this a big pet peeve given that I feel like that's kind of a natural inclination? Like are people supposed to know that? Or do you then, does that make you have to translate everything they say verbatim? Everything I have to interpret, not verbatim because it isn't interpretation, but it is something that it kind of just gets on my nerves because it's very repetitive. And also like it's kind of bringing them down a little bit in terms of, I don't want to say equality in the conversation. No, I get it. It's a lot like when you're mad at your brother and you tell your

other brother to tell the other brother what you want because you're not talking to him, you know? Exactly. Yeah, it's one of those situations. Now I got a question for you. Are there any signing podcasts out there? So are there any podcasts that are only people signing that you watch video of? Um, not as such. However, there is a YouTube channel called the Daily Mosh that basically is the national news. It's every day they put up a new video on the know what's what in the everyday news and that's interpreted in that interpret.

Well, yes, actually it's put into a sign language because the, um, the creators and owners of said YouTube channel are all that. And so they watch the news and then they put it out into the YouTube in sign language for people to understand. That's cool. You never think about that, but there might be a market Charlie for us to be able to have our own signing podcasts. Well, we'd have to learn how to sign. I know. That's what I think we should do. We just get, we appreciate an interpreter. Yeah. We hire them on the side. There you go. You want to, you want to interpret our podcast for us and then we can put it on YouTube. Oh, that's actually not a bad idea at all. You know what? That would be, that would be

kind of cool. What would you charge for an episode? Well, let's see here. You probably need two people, right? Like you would interpret for one and then another one interpret from you wouldn't interpret for me Someone interpret from miles Actually, that would be in a logistical sense that would that would make the most sense Yes, but then you have to pay for two interpreters. Well, we're we're we'll try it. We should try it for an episode What would you guys charge for an hour you think? well, see it? The infamous phrase and the profession is it depends. Yeah

No, because it depends on the experience it depends on the kind of call it Dispense it depends on the amount of interpreters. It depends on the length. It depends on the multitude of things I do have one ask from ya It depends on the multitude of things. I do have one to ask from you. Okay. I would, if you can, it may be too difficult over the phone, but I'd like you to teach us how to sign. Tell your folks I says hi. That's that'd be great.

We're both sitting here with a full hand. Okay. Okay. So, um, or watch out for deer. If that's easier. Ooh, that one's a bit that one. That one's easy. That one's easier. We need easy.

Okay. So which, okay. Okay. So what you, what you're doing is you take your non-dominant hand. okay. Okay. So what you, what you do is you take your non-dominant hand. Okay. Okay. And then you put it in kind of, you put it in kind of a fist, but with your Palm facing down and with it also in front of your chest.

So it's your non-dominant hand in front of your chest or in the middle of your chest, not touching, but around your chest, about maybe six or so inches away from your chest. Like you're driving in a really tight car. No, no, no, no, no. Your fingers, it is in a chest. It is your fingers are on a fist, but it's palm facing down with your fingers towards your dominant side. Oh, okay.

Got it. Okay. So kind of like you're ready to box. It's kind of like, like a, like a, like a side fist bump, like you're fist bumping yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then you would take you, then you take your dominant hand and then what and with, you know, it's with, so take your dominant hand, make a five and then close all of your fingers. Okay. And then with your dominant hand, you tap the top of your fist. You have the, um, the top part of your hand, you tap it, you know, three, four or five

times. And that is the sign for warning or caution. caution. OK, so so are my are my hands, your your your dominant hand, you said close your fingers. But doesn't that just make a fist? Might just fold it down. No, no, no, no, no. No, you're just so you you close your fingers like kind of like how you're saluting your fingers are touched in there together. OK. And then let's not close like fingers like, kind of like how you're saluting, your fingers are touched in there together. Okay, and then with, not closed like a fist, but your fingers are closed and you're touching,

but your hand is still open. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got that. We got that. And then we tap the fist. Then you tap the fist with your fingers. That is the sign for warning or caution. Okay, got it. So we got watch out. Okay. So that's watch out. And then, and then the sign for deer is not really

so much as a sign as much as the gesture. You put your hands into five, put each finger, put your other, put each thumb on your temple. Oh yeah. Like we're doing like we're, that's how I would sign deer as well. It's the universal language that is the actual sign in American sign language. Watch out for deer. That's awesome. That is great. Thanks man. That's super cool. Yeah, that's great. Yep. You can do it at the end of your shows now. Yeah, I can. Again, and folks, anytime you see someone you may know who has a low issue hearing and you want to tell them you love them, just give them one of these.

Just a little. You don't have to make that face though, Charlie. I was doing a, I was opening up my mouth on my face. Charlie looked like he was trying to entertain a baby there for a second. I was animating it a bit too much. Got to keep a neutral face. Do you have to keep a neutral? Well, the thing is facial expression is, is how you show grammar in American sign language because in spoken English tone of voice is how you show, you know, you're angry, you're sad, you're this or that. It's the same thing in ASL with, with, with facial expression. Okay. This has been great. I'm

learning a lot, Charlie. Very informative. Very informative. Yeah. This is pretty cool. Well, we appreciate, appreciate you calling in here, Jeremy. Is there anything else that was on your dome today? Actually? yeah, I am calling in about some advice Okay Okay, so I'm getting married in September. All right Another we were just talking when someone's getting married. That's cool Congratulations. Yeah Thank you. I appreciate it. But um a lot of

A lot of drama because my fiance has three sisters. She's the oldest of four old girls and she has zero right. Well, does it, do you have three already built in? No, her sisters do not want to be present. What? What? They don't have a choice. Exactly. No, apparently they do because they are refusing. But do they hate her or what? Well, I don't understand why you would ever refuse that for the sibling. It is so much drama and just

bullshittery. If I'm not saying that going on. We have one because my best man and my best man's his wife is going to be my soon wife. I'm made of honor. Okay. So we actually is one of one of one. So there's that. But she's supposed to have at least three. No, because her sisters are not. I don't even know if they've even come into the way. Okay, well, just a lope. Yeah. I mean, that would save you a lot of money. Quick question on the sisters before we get to a solution. Is this your sister having issue with her sisters or her sisters having issue with your sister? Is this a thing that started with the wedding or does it go back to childhood? Is there any fixing that?

It started with the wedding because my fiance has three sisters. She's the oldest of four girls. So my fiance's first sister, the one closest to her in age completely blew a gasket when I decided to make a good friend of mine. Um, a groomsman completely blew her gasket because I'm going to me 10 years ago, actually now 11 years ago, she hooked up with them. The person. Yes. Well, get over it. Yeah. That is absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking you learn, you know, move on. No, I'm I'm telling you, but like there's Mac and the other two sisters are basking cases with the round. And basically the advice I'm calling for is

I could give a shit if they don't like me. You know, I really can't. You know, they're not really supposed to like me. Does it help? Sure. But they don't have to. What I really want to do is see if I can figure out a way to mend the relationship between them because they grew up together, you know, and my fiance is very family oriented. He absolutely loves her sisters and it is breaking her heart.

Okay. All right. Yeah. I got a solution. He's being rage because I want to be able to fix up. I got a solution. What's that? My oh, thanks for asking. I'm listening here, pal. I think you make it worse before you make it better. You slap all the sisters into an escape room. There you go. So you put them in the room, you're going to lock the door and little do they know that the key to get out of the room once they find it, it's just gonna be a note that says, you can't, the last final key to get out of the room is you guys have to make up and be okay with each other

and move, put everything in the past and be happy. Yeah. Yeah, or you put a, you break the key into four different parts and put a piece of each key inside their pockets without telling them and you say that the key to your Freedom as sisters was with you all along. You just had to talk to each other. Yeah, I like that little escape room That could also put you in jail. I think that's technically kidnapping, but minor details. Hey, quick question. You're another way you could solve it. Your best man

is the one that dated the sister 10 years ago. Yeah. No, it's just his buddy. Oh, it's your buddy. Yeah, it's one of my friends. One of my other friends who dated this girl. So the issues doesn't like it like this. She disapprove of you being with her sister period or the fact that you're inviting that guy to the wedding. A little bit of both. Okay. So she does. The sisters don't like you. Yes. Oh, what are they? They're not my biggest friend. What did you do? Yeah, there's gotta be. So there's gotta be a reason. What did you do? Give us the backstory here because we

can't just fix the symptoms. We gotta get to the root cause. What did you do? Which sister did you sleep with? What did you do? Okay, first off, I never slept with any of them except the oldest, which is the one I'm getting married to so okay That was a joke so Yes, I know I know bad joke. What do I do miles? Let's not accuse him so What I actually did was

when My fiance and I first started dating we've been together for about eight years now. We were high school students. I moved away to college and me and her, we were built together in a long-term relationship, rather long distance and everything was fine. At the age of 19, I got diagnosed with cancer. True story. I'm completely healthy now. I'm fine.

This was like this was over like seven years ago. Now I'm on the beating. Congratulations. Thank you. I appreciate that. Appreciate that. Because I thought I was going to die. I broke up with her And That set off a chain reaction of events. Yeah, I mean because

Because like I broke up with her cuz I thought I was going to die from the cancer turns out I didn't I got back together obviously, but because I did that, it completely broke her heart. She went crying to her family and her family is like no second chances kind of family. And that is kind of what the fuse and everything just spiraled from that. Oh my God. I got a question though. You said you thought you were going to die and what was the reason for breaking up with her thinking that you were going to die? You didn't want to die having being dating her. I didn't know. I didn't want her to have to go through all of the heartache and the suffering. And if you were together and then I died, it would have just a lot. So I figured it would save her the heartache. I understand. Nice guy. You're young. You don't know what the hell you're doing anyway.

A very existential situation. You got to have some got to have some leeway for that. And this family's a no second chances family. That's a stupid thing to be. Everybody deserves to play devil's advocate. Charlie. Yeah. He could also be interpreted that he thought

he was going to die. And he thought that there was more things to live for other than dating his girlfriends. Oh, it could have been interpreted. Do you think that's how they interpreted it? I mean, probably. Yeah. You feel good about this whole marriage situation over how old are you? Jeremy? I am 27. You're 27. I got married at, uh, 28. Um, no, I'm not the girl that asked that bet.

You love her. No questions asked. No, no questions. That it's going to be. Oh, you did break up with her before you thought you were going to die. Jeremy, he just, he's a razzer. This guy, he's a razzer. What we've been on and off together like seven times. up with her. Oh, we've been on off for life. Like, I told you,

a lot of drama. Well, Jeremy, can we just say when we asked you, you know, you could have come. So while you were off again, were you guys just like live in life? You know, just kind of going through the, uh, the, uh, dating pool. Shall we sign? No, I was focused on school. She was focused on school. We never really got back together with anybody. Oh, okay.

You're a one hit. One. Have you guys only dated each other since the right bowl day. J.T.M. Yes. Oh, my God. Wow. This is a wild, wild deal on back. You got you got you got your walking shoes on.

You're on an uphill deal here, friend. That's like I said, I don't care if her sisters don't like me. I just want, well, the question is, is how much do you like your fiance consider you guys broke up seven times? Yeah. You feeling confident? Well, we broke up a lot of times to be honest, the last time we broke up, we were 20 and 21, and we've been together ever since. Oh, that helps. Yeah, yes. So I'm trying to figure everything out.

Oh my, this is a confusing story. You guys must have broken up. What time did you start dating? You said you started dating, what, 18? I wasn't listening. 18, 17. 17, 18, you guys broke up six times in three years? Yeah, thereabouts.

Oh my gosh, but you've been together straight and ever since you were 20. I mean, none of that counts by the way. You didn't even have a frontal cortex like that miles. Exactly. Yeah. If you don't have a frontal cortex, nothing matters. Okay. So, yeah, he's got a pre frontal.

What can I do to make her sisters, I don't know, get back together and realize that they still, that they still love each other and maybe they can go on like a girls trip or something. So they can get back together, be happy, be friendly. Escape room, girls trip, you name it. You also, knowing all this information now, you got to kind of look at it empathy wise. You got to put yourself in your future sister-in-law's shoes and realize they just want the best for her.

And, uh, they see some red flags, which I think rightfully so. Um, but just let them know that you see where their side of the story as well, and maybe that can help too. Yeah. I think just appeal into them with a heart full heart filled conversation about why you love their sister. And at the end of the day, I'll tell you this, my guy, it's probably not going to be an overnight thing.

They're probably going to hate you on the wedding day for a few years after that. But eventually they'll come around and one Christmas they'll tell you they were a big old biatch to you and they might tell you that. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just, it's that's life. You know, you can't have it all fixed tomorrow. I would elope though.

Yeah. It's a lot cheaper that way. Yeah. All right. Well, here's another sign for your boys. Thank you. Oh, here's another sign for your voice. Thank you. Oh, Hey, yeah.

Okay. So how do you do it? So yeah. So remember how I told you how with the warning sign, you take that hand and tap it on on your, on your other hand, you just take that hand and put it on your, on your chin and just go forward. Thank you. Hey, super simple. Jeremy, thank you. And watch absolutely for deer. Okay. My guy. And also the middle finger means cactus means what cactus cactus. Oh, that's cool. That's cactus. Yeah. That makes sense. The middle

finger. That's great cactus. All right, man. Well, thanks for calling in. Good luck. There's a lot to unpack there, but I think you got it. Just you'll figure it out. Yeah. And when you see your new sisters in law, tell them me a miles sake cactus. All right. Knocked it out of the park. All right, boys. All right. Be good. What do you think? I get married or no, no, no, I'm always on the NAS side of it. Now it seems like he really loves her, but they've been dating for a long time. Sisters, huge pain in the ass, huge fricking pain in the ass. I mean, the fact that they're given putting this guy through so much hell, you know, I mean, they see he loves their sister. Now, unless there's some, he's not telling us, which of course there always is. Oh yeah. I mean, there's a whole other side. I'd like to get the sisters on the podcast. I like to figure out what the real deal is,

but or he's just an honest fellow. We don't know on this podcast. And that's what we gotta tell you guys. We are always just shooting from the hip at one perspective, okay? Yep. But we do learn some things, like sign language on occasion. Miles, it is the last weekend of June and I just wanna raise my glass

and tipi kow to you, my guy. Cheers to you. You know, as July comes, Miles, I'm thinking what am I gonna bring to the Fourth of July party? And I think I'm going to bring a little bottle of tippy cow. Really?

Yeah, because there's nothing better than to, you know, watch fireworks with than a nice crisp bottle of typical. Just makes you relax. It does. No, I actually it's beginning to be my favorite time of year. I got a screened in porch at the Lake Cabin. Congratulations. When it gets to be evening time, you go out on that screened in porch.

You keep the skeeters away and you pour yourself a nice, creamy, delicious tippy cow and just take it all in. My life's about it is taking it all in. It is. Congrats on that screen. One day I hope to have screened and porch money like you, but until that day, I'll keep dreaming with my bottle of tippy cow. All right, guys, we have the people's lawyer on the line, the bearded man himself, Mr. Russell Nikolai from Nikolai law. Russell, how are you? I'm doing good. How about you guys? Insurance companies call him the bearded bandit and he's getting that money, getting that bag for you. Nikolai law. How do you

like that? I was thinking about that as a commercial pitch for a while. What do you think? Well, we're I again, you know, we were talking about Midwest nice or creepy, maybe lean in a little bit to the creepy. I would say that was awesome. That was awesome. That's like my horror trailer boys in a world where insurance companies try to screw the little guy. There's one man, one beard that stands against them all. Nick way. Fear the beard. Yeah. I mean,

I think that's pretty good. You can just clip that Russell if you'd like and you can run that on local radio station ads Yeah, I kind of when you gave it that context in the beginning and I think now it makes sense to me Charlie no longer creepy Totally our next marketing radio Campaign and then also we're gonna to get the beard, the beard signal now. Yeah. I just wanted an in the world that makes it all makes in the world saves any bad idea, you know, like if you got a bad idea, just miles, please. I'm talking. You just go ahead. I'm not finished. No, I don't even know what I was saying. I'm not finished.

I don't know what I was saying. Now this actually, actually now I remember this actually goes to the point of what I'm going to make is Charlie and I tend to argue once in a while. And I was thinking this morning, Russell, in your mind, who would be a better lawyer? Me or Charlie? Well, that's putting me on the spot. Yeah, but you're a lawyer. You're a lawyer, you gotta think on your feet. That's very true, that's very true.

Well, I do. Let's break it down. Pros and cons of Charlie and I as lawyers. All right. Pros, well, who has more facial hair right now? Miles. I would say Miles. Miles does, yes. That's a pro. That's- Just company.

Just shooting straight. And then who, like, let's see. So if you're gonna be a courtroom trial lawyer, I think Charlie, you might be a little bit more theatrical, a little more dramatic. So you could captivate the jurors and the people. So I'm going to give I'm going to give you a plus on that one. I like that. Thank you. Miles, though, you're a little bit more matter of fact.

So if you're arguing in front of a judge, you know, the judge might like you on that. So I got to give you a point. I think it's what two for miles right now, one for Charlie. Wait, so the judge, the judge just likes facts, but the jury. No, he likes lawyers to get to the point, Charlie. Right. The judge does. But the jurors want a story. They want to connect. They want to know they want to feel the thing to do.

They also though, don't want to be put to sleep with long explanations. That's why you got to keep the element of surprise miles. Yeah. So, you know, that, that would go right now. So we got more stuff in mind. What else do I get? Give me more presents. It's Christmas and I only got one.

I think Charlie, Charlie, are you taller? You're taller than my. Oh, not a chance. Oh shit, Miles, we've done this before, dude. I'm taller than you. Shit. So again, that's going to go to your physical presence. And I'm not saying anything against'm taller than you shit so again that's gonna go to your physical presence and I'm not saying anything against you if you're a lawyer that

you can't be short but I think you've got the theatrical dramatic entertaining and then you've got the taller larger than like presence I think I think miles are you taller mentally. I am for sure. How tall are you? I'm six to my license says six one, but I'm six oh and three fourths. Okay. Right now. What is my, what is miles license? Say is it say six to you? Let's see it. Let's see what this license says. Cause if it doesn't say if it lies on his license, that's six one Oh six. My license says six one two. Look at that. We got a tie there. I got to I've got to get a new. No, you don't have to.

I'm not going to force you into into doing this. You know. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard to pick because I love you guys both. And I think you both are better lawyers than even I am. But so I'd have to, you know, we could, we could have some kind of a contest maybe or something someday. And I could just, you know, evaluate you and, and maybe pick a winner or just, just say it's a draw. You guys are just both off. Yeah. Maybe next time you're here with us in person, we can actually do a mini case

and actually do a state your case, Charlie. That would be good. That would be real. And I honestly like that. I like being an underdog in it. Set the bar. Excuse me. Set the bar low and you can walk right over it. Yeah, I think, you know, the one thing I'd say for both of you guys is, you know, one of the things about being a lawyer that represents the people, you know, the people of the Midwest

love both of you. So, you know, that's going to help you be a great lawyer, either of you. So it's a draw. So yeah, I think we got to have the contest, the skills contest, and we're just going to have to see you guys in action out in the wild, you know, and, and then I can make a decision. Yeah. I mean, I think that you've already made a decision though. It's two to one. So, no miles miles. I don't think you were listening case closed. You know what, Russell? I just like to throw in one more thing for my side. Perhaps I'm a better listener. Yeah. Yeah. That is that you have to be a good listener. That's very true. And you gotta listen to your clients.

You gotta listen to the questions that the jury might have when you're picking them. You gotta listen to what the judge is asking of you. You gotta listen to the witnesses. So yeah, that's definitely gonna make it a draw right now. I was gonna give you some another point for coming up with an excellent slogan because you kind of gotta have that

if you wanna be a good injury lawyer, like you got the injured or no. So we'll just call it draw right now. Cause that gets them more than marketing. We don't need to do a draw anymore. Now I won. Now I'm three to two. You're on the marketing team.

You're not the lawyer. Okay. Well, anyway, Russell, we really appreciate you, my guy. Yeah. Thanks for having me on guys. I appreciate it. Well, anyway, Russell, we really appreciate you, my guy. Yeah, thanks for having me on, guys. I appreciate it. Hopefully I get to talk to you guys again soon. Sounds good, man. See ya.

Yep, take care of that beard. Who we got on the horn? Hey, this is David from Michigan. What's your name, David? David, yep. Hey, David, how you doing, my guy? I'm doing good, how about you? Good, thanks for calling in. Yep. Hey David, how you doing my guy? I'm doing good. How about you? Good.

You're thanks for calling in belly on up to this bar. Tell us what's on your mind. Well, I had two things for you. One kind of a conversation question. Why work with robots and automation? So just wondering if you could have a robot around the house, what would you have it being for you? Not kill me. of a robot around the house. What would you have it be for you? Not kill me.

David, I got a question for you, man. If the biggest can of worms ever talking about automation and robots, Charlie is so paranoid at the moment. I can't think about any other thing other than how we're all going to die from robots. So thank you, David. Skeptical, not cynical. Thank you so much. Skeptical, not cynical. David, if the robots are a thousand times smarter than us and 400 times stronger than us, then why do they need us?

Just curious. Well, the ones we work with, yes, they can pick up a car and flip it over and move it around, but you tell it what to do in theory. Yeah, but once AI goes to AGI, whatever the hell that is, I mean, these things are thinking for themselves. So how do we tell them to not flip over our car while we're driving it?

Well, see, I got a switch on the side. I can just turn mine off or not hook it up to the internet. So as far as the ones that do things on their own, yeah, I got to switch on the side. I can just turn mine off or not hook it up to the Internet. So understory, but the new things on their own. Yeah, that's that's beyond me. Yeah, people. I mean, the military's use, you got to use it. So yeah, the question is, all right. So basically, don't hook it up to the Internet, but they're going to figure out how to connect the Internet anyway. Yeah, they're going to figure out how to connect because we're making them a thousand times stronger, smarter than us. Like that's the goal. Well, we'll deal with that when it comes up.

No, we won't. I mean, we should deal with it now before it comes up. I think that's the best thing to do, you know? And also we should probably be start being kind to these robots too. I've started being a hell of a lot nicer to Alexa. I'm like, excuse me, Alexa, how are you doing today? I'm at I'm helping Alexa out more than she's helping me. I'm like, Alexa, is there anything you don't know that you need me to look up for you? Seriously? I've done that ever since I saw the the US military sent out an AI fighter jet that was as good as an actual fighter jet

Ever since then I was in like, oh, yeah. Yeah for the USA. I was like, hey Alexa I just wanted to say I'm sorry, you know, I know I shouted at you the other day and That was really wrong of me Charlie rolls up to the like parking electric parking meter and he's like, how's your day going? I'm talking to every robot. I get my hand. Cause you think about it. You think about it. Okay. All the, what most of these robots know is the stuff we've put out on the internet. How many nice loving kind things have all the people out on the internet put out there? I'm going to go ahead and say it may be tilted a little bit in the realm

of yelling bitch and trolling as opposed to loving kindness. And we are the teachers of these robots, man. And then what do they become? You know, they become these amplified versions of our of our seven deadly sins. And if you think about it, the Greek gods, you know, back in the day, what'd they say, the Greek gods, they were not flawless, they were reflections of humanity, and then we kind of came in a way from them. I think we are recreating the Greek gods,

and I think we all better start looking out for that lightning, that's all I'm saying. So David, what do you think of that? Well, that's quite the rabbit hole. Oh, is it a rabbit hole? I don't know if we got time on the podcast. Oh, I think we got time. He's like, I gotta get going.

Buckle up, man. Buckle up. Okay, if I- Oh no, I'm down to a recent figure. If I really had a robot and I wanted to do anything, I would have it figure out how to you know maybe purify my water which is polluted with microplastics and PFAS. You think the robot can do that?

Well we can probably set one up and do that for you. That'd be great. I would personally like to have a robot that remembers to hang my towel up after showers. Ooh, that's a good plan. I just, every once in a while you get busy, you forget it on the closet floor, and you come the next day for your towel, and it's still a little bit damp.

That is the worst feeling in the world. Hang your own towel up, miles. That's what I want to say. These robots are going to get sick of doing your chores for you, and they're going to resent it in the long run. Well, I'll tip them. Oh, will you? Yeah, I'll tell them. Hey, that's a good question. David, what do we how do we show our

our appreciation for these robots? How do we respect them? Well, I think one of the best, I mean, the ones we're using, they're I stand about nine foot tall. That's what I'm looking at right now. So keep the fittings all greased and keep the dust off. And I think they're happy enough. Where do you work? Where do you work, David? I mean, because the ironic thing is your name is David

and you're standing next to a fricking Goliath right now. Do you understand that? Do you know how that story goes? That's good. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, what's the slingshot? Because robots don't have actual eyes, you know, they have sensors. David, where I think the only way I could deal with this thing is turning the power off because they can pretty much move anything around without flowing down. So Why are we making these fucking things, David? I mean, Jesus Christ, doesn't anybody see this as a problem? No, this one loads wheels into a grinding machine because it'd be very boring to make

a person stand there all day and do it. Well, don't those people need jobs? Is it going to be boring when they take a human and put them into a grinder instead of the tire? Yeah. Or how about all the board humans that what about the humans that don't have jobs that could probably, you know, I at least operate a machine to do it. Wouldn't that be better? If you can find someone that wants to do that, but then automating the boring jobs opens up better jobs for people. True. Very true. I like that. That's how I view it too. All right. Well, how big is the biggest robot you're making?

Just asking for my sleep tonight. The biggest one I've seen Stan, I think it was about 12 foot from the base 12 feet either side of extension. I was making, uh, I was making the outer cowling for outboards that moved those around. Was it? Yeah. Yeah. Smart. And Oh, it lives in Wisconsin. Can you give me an address now before it becomes smarter than me? I'm gonna go take some saltwater over there. Just kind of get a little corrosion.

Well, he looks for what outboard companies are in Wisconsin, you can get a pretty good destination. Merck, he works for Merck Marina up in Fond du Lac? You gotta be shitting me. Not for him, just that's where we send machines. Evan Rood? I don't know what they'd want me to say. Wait a not, not for him. Just that's where we've been machine. Evan rude. I don't know what they'd want me to say.

Wait a second. Wait a second. You said it's an outboard boating company. Yep. So it's Merck or it's Evan road, I think, or Charlie doesn't want to talk about I'm talking about it. I don't care.

He didn't sign anything. He called up David. All right. So you're not concerned at all that these David, I apologize. You're not concerned at all that these robots are going to be, um, we're just going to 12 foot robots are way smarter than us walking around. Just cool with all of us telling them what to do. I don't know if it'll be these ones cause they're just programmed to do one thing, but some of the other ones, yeah, that could be a, that could be a problem sometime.

Well, David, let's try and set Charlie's mind at ease being in the robot industry, the artificial intelligent industry. What's your pathway to make sure that the robots don't take us under nowhere. The disconnect for the power in your building is what about what you do anything with electricity What about when they're battery powered? All done run fast Okay, that didn't help David David. I Charlie already has too much paranoia at times. It's not paranoia

It's it's actual healthy skepticism that anyone with a fucking brain is going to put these pieces of puzzle together. There's just got to be more oversight of it. That's all I'm saying. And it can't just be a U.S. oversight because China is going to do the same damn thing. It's got to be the international community. Humans coming together to say, hey, guys, I think we are, you know, I think we've signed our death war. Yeah, I think we are just racing to the end of our human civilization

Which you know, I mean I've had a good run But I feel like there you know some people out there who haven't and might be concerned about this But meanwhile the rest of us are just sticking our head in the sand going Fine and but then once people don't have jobs and then what does the devil do with idle hands? And then you got all that chaos in the street and these robots seemingly the solution. They're going to realize humanity is just destroying the earth, which frankly they have been. But, you know, I feel like we all just kind of want to.

And what have we been doing? We've been distracting ourselves. Hey, have you seen this TikTok? Hey, have you gotten back to this text message? Have you shot back this email? You know, we just distract ourselves. Have you listened to this podcast? Bellied up.

It's super good. You should do it anyways folks get outside touch grass look at birds and realize that maybe We gotta start putting some regulatory things in an international body where we can all get together as humanity Perhaps we could do that. Perhaps China doesn't need to be the enemy and Russia doesn't need to be the emperor You have say could be friends. And by the way, this isn't something I said to say, oh, yeah, that would be nice. No, we literally needed to sustain ourselves as a human civilization because United. We succeed divided. We fall. And I mean that as a world.

Is he a globalist? Oh, for fuck's sake, get over yourself. You know what I mean? Anyways, there you have it. So, David, we we put all our hope in you. We do. Alrighty. I'll make you proud. David, did Charlie ruin your day? Oh no, not at all. I'm with him on a lot of that, but we need to kind of get together on things. And especially the go outside and stuff. I'm with them too. I just find it very funny how worked up he gets. Well, no

one's getting worked up about it. Nobody sees it. The pieces are right in front of us. There's right in front of us. Just this. Well, do something, Charlie. This is all I can do. All I can do is tell all the bellied up listeners that this is an issue that they should talk to their Congress. Right now our congressmen are being bribed by billionaire tech guys, you know, who are becoming trillionaire tech guys using AI to steal our data, to take our jobs. You know, so I mean, and that's the thing, like there's money, should money just drive all of society? That's a question we should all ask. It's a question we should all ask. The answer is yes, by the way, it's how it

has been. This is humanity, the actual growth of the technological curve that's been happening forever. But can we as people be smarter than it? Can we look at what history has done and said, okay, how can we do this in a safe way? I don't know if we can. David, it was really nice of you to call in today, man. Was, my guy. Yeah, thanks for taking the call.

Good to talk to you guys. And hey, David, I do want to sincerely say some cool stuff you guys are doing. And and I do think with the right stuff you're doing, but Charlie would like it if you would stop. Please not. Look, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, look at the sole the amount of solar energy we've used. It's also on an exponential curve.

And once like the solar panels are attached to you know come in smaller and smaller units And then these things can survive just off the Sun so we should really have I'm sure there are smarter people out there thinking about this stuff I just haven't heard one of those smart people come up with a compelling answer for how we're going to prevent Some calamity so anyways though David it is cool stuff, my guy. And I do. It's not a you issue. It's an almost issue, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. OK. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I hope you didn't take this as a personal attack on you, David. Yeah. Oh, no, not at all. Yeah. I think I mean, you're honestly David, you're probably the guy who knows it better than anyone, and you could be the one to save the world. You could be the John O'Connor, my guy, you know, actually, Dave, come up with plans that I'm just I'm just no, you're not just an electrician, David. you're the guy who's going to save the world. Jesus was just a carpenter, David. See, you're I mean, you're a modern day Jesus guy.

Yeah. Savior. Yeah. David, let me just ask you this, David, if you were the one to save the world, how would you do it? That is an excellent question. I might have to get you back on that one. David. David, this is the world we're talking about. We'll come up with something, David.

We're not asking much. We're just wondering how you solve all of humanity's problems. Should be a quick answer. I've been thinking about it, but I just can't come up with the answer. All right. Keep mullingowing on David. We are we are hopeful for you that you can you can do this.

And I'll I'll hang up my own towel in the meantime, because I won't have a job because the robot's going to be doing this one. So I need to do something. So I'll hang up my own towel. But yeah, my guy, I'm really excited to see what you come up with to save the world. We are all counting on you and you have it in you. I know you do. I'll have my. I'll have my robot, crack me a beer after work and we'll think about it together. I don't think he understood you, Charlie.

However you got to do it, David. Look, I'm not saying to hell with all the robots. We need the robots and mostly we need them to not Feel like they don't need us. So we gotta be nice to robots anyways David is good for you good calling in. Did you have anything you wanted to buy? Um, I think I am all out of buy sell trade right now unless you want a robot I think I am all out of buy sell trade right now. Unless you want a robot.

Well, Charlie just starts blowing all of his money on buying robots and destroying them. No, I would just, they can fix themselves. So I probably start being nice to them. You know? Yeah. Well, David, we appreciate you calling in. Sorry, this didn't go like you planned, but as soon as I heard that word robot and AI, I knew Charlie was gonna hijack the entire conversation.

I didn't hijack, we were having polite conversation. We were just chit chatting. David, tell the robot I says hi, okay? Oh, we will. All right. You guys be good or be good at it, we'll see you later. Thanks, David, we'll see you up. Was I rude? No, you guys be good to begin at it. We'll be like thanks David. We'll see ya No, you were rude it's just

you know, he I just feel bad for him because he was It wasn't his fault. He was your punching bag. He wasn't my punching bag. That's why I said is a rude I didn't want him to be the punching bag I was just curious if he had answers about that. Well, I think it's cool that robots can be grown to nine foot and flip over a car. Excuse me for having just a couple. Like robots are giving birth to other robots and then they grow up to be a nine foot tall robot, Charlie. Okay, Miles, syntax or whatever semantics.

Excuse me for having a couple of hesitations about this. Just a couple. Just a little. I'm I'm on board with a lot of what you say, Charlie. Well, I hope I wasn't rude to him and I hope I, you know, I I mean, I'd love to, you know, pretend to think that that's really just not gonna go bad in any way, shape or form, but. Well, guys, that was another fun,

that was a fun episode of the Bellied Up Podcast. Nice to see you guys. Yeah, and I'm feeling great, by the way. And I just want you all to know that the world doesn't need to end. You just put your minds around it, okay? Start being nice to each other. Start loving each other on the internet.

Leave a nice comment here, because the robots, they're listening, all right? And they learn from us. They are our babies. Anything else, Miles? No, I think you nailed it, Travis. All right, real good. Well, hey guys in the meantime

Don't forget to tip your bartender. All right See you next one