Bellied Up - Daughter Discovers Her Dad’s Secret #190

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

We're at Hooligans bar and Grill in West Fargo, ND. First caller is wondering if he has a taxidermy addiction. Then, Amber is struggling with the fact that her dad is a swinger. Get $10 Off at BRU...NT with code belliedup at https:// www.bruntworkwear.com/belliedup #Bruntpod #ad

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Bellied Up Podcast. We are bellied up here at Hooligans in West Fargo, North Dakota. I got a belly full of brunch. Ooh, I had steak burrito. How was it? It was good. Scale one to 10. It was, I would say it was a solid 9.3.
Starting point is 00:00:20 That's great. I'm a huge fan of the omelet. I even put in a little request. You know, I put in some substitutions, which I don't normally do. But I, I, I, I'm a big fan of the omelets they got here. You can always tell an omelet that's made with love, Miles, and one that's made fresh out there and back, as opposed to just pulled out of the freezer, you know.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Yeah. And they're making fresh omelets here. It was delicious. With eggs. You guys are in West Fargo. You got to get to hooligans have a, for brunch. They serve until two, which I love. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Every day, too. Dude. And the way that my schedule works, the way that I operate. Yeah. I am never awake. I'm never, like, out and about early enough to, like, get early brunch stuff or, like, breakfast. If I go through McDonald's, I'm always, like, what's this up at, like, 10.30, I think. 10.30?
Starting point is 00:01:15 I'm always rolling up to the drive-thru at, like, 10.35. It's always the worst. Nice to know when a bars got your back, you know? It's nice to know that. So, Chuck, what's going on in your world? I'd love to know. What do you've been up to? I'm just living life.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Doing my best. You know, I'm going to Vegas next week, actually. You ever been to Vegas, Miles? I have never been to Vegas. Does that surprise you? Do you want to come next week? No, I cannot. I go on vacation here soon. Well, just start early. I have a kid.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Details. Who are you going with? I'm doing a show out there. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, Miles, you want to come to Vegas? I just have to work the whole time. No, not the whole time.
Starting point is 00:02:00 So just go to casino by yourself. No. We would actually, we could go see a show at the sphere after. We could have a good old time. No, I think we would. It's just, we should have done all that stuff before I had a kid. I know. I wasn't successful enough when you didn't have a kid to go do it.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I know. I know. But speaking of successful, you can buy Charlie Barron's tickets at Charlie Barron's.com. And if you buy more tickets, I will actually be successful. So do you like that plug I got in there? You know what, Charlie? Don't listen to them. Listen to who?
Starting point is 00:02:34 You're successful regardless of if people buy tickets. Oh, I know. I was just hoping for some pity tickets. Yeah. I was playing it. Charlie's going to be in a bad mental state if you guys don't buy tickets. Yes, please. I'm going to have to talk Charlie off a ledge.
Starting point is 00:02:48 He's going to go to the tallest building in Fargo. I'll survive. Yeah, yeah. It's like the comfort in of 32nd Avenue. I will break an ankle. though. Yeah. And he's going to live street. He's going to go live on Instagram and say, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:03:05 do it. If you don't buy tickets and everyone's going to be coming like, dude, you're just going to roll an ankle. It's not that big of a deal. You know, people are going to be like, just do it, Charlie. I'm just looking out over the horizon. Is there not one hill in this whole damn town?
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah, and it's like in the middle of winter. So there's like snow right up against the building. So it's actually like, you'll cushion you so you don't get hurt at all. I just go sledding. You can see Milwaukee from the roof. So go buy tickets. So Charlie doesn't roll an ankle off the comfort in here.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Please, please do. Miles is a bummer about the show, though, is at 10 p.m. And that, you know, some of my fans are on, you know, the older side. Yeah. And I think 10 p.m. might be too late for him. But they're in Vegas. that's true all the shows in Vegas are at 10 10 p.m. So do you think a majority of the people coming to your show in Vegas live in Vegas or people
Starting point is 00:04:09 visiting? We play Vegas before and from what I gathered chit-chatam with folks after is that a lot of them live out there. There's a lot of Vegas is one of those snowbird towns, oddly enough. Vegas, Palm Springs, Phoenix, Scottsdale, everywhere in Florida. these are places that Midwesterners leave because they'll say it's good for my arthritis, you know, or whatever. They just retire.
Starting point is 00:04:37 They go somewhere warm. And Vegas is on the rise. That's what I've heard. So to prep you for your Vegas show, Charlie. Yeah. I would like you to test drive a few bits Vegas specific here on the podcast. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:52 So you put me on the spot to like come up with my Vegas material right now. my goal is essentially work out the bad stuff so you don't do that. I love it. I love it when we just riff hot. I just riff right for you and you're like, I hope you do better on stage. That's what I'm hoping. That's how it usually goes. I do when I think about it.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And the best way to sell, you know, anything is like you don't, you don't just show up to the dealership to buy a new car and just go, hey, I want this car. And then you just sign. You got a test drive. So let's test drive your Vegas show. I'm not going to test drive. Welcome to the stage. The king of Wisconsin, Charlie.
Starting point is 00:05:40 That was really great. That was right my ears. If he does that again, Jared, you just turn him down just to scotch. So I keep my hearing. Miles, let me tell you a little story
Starting point is 00:05:51 about the last time I was in Vegas, okay? Wait, is this, it's not a comedy, but I'm totally deflecting. It might be a bit. I just spit on you.
Starting point is 00:06:02 It might be a bit. So I'm going there. Don't spit on the people at your show. I was spitting when I was talking. Billy Deuce was there, all right? And Billy Deuce, you know, I obviously put all the hotel rooms on my credit card. And I get the credit card bill back. And there's a charge for $86.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And I was like, Bill? why would I have a charge for $86 on my credit card? He goes, oh, I think I know what that might be. There was an intimacy kit on the counter, and I picked it up and just looked at it. But because it had a magnetic deal on it, I think I took it off for too long and you got charged. I was like, well, did you at least take the intimacy kit
Starting point is 00:06:56 so we could look inside? he said, no, I thought they might reverse the charges if I left it there. Can you imagine paying $86 for an intimacy kit you didn't get any intimacy from? Well, I think he's lying to you. You think he used it? I think he definitely used it. Should we call him up right now and see? Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:07:14 All right, let's give him a call. So, I mean, hey, hey, Jared, you know, I saw it $86 charge and it says that... Are you role playing this right now? It was a big natural co-ed charges. What was that? Oh, it's just something on TV. It was something on TV. Did you purchase it or what happened?
Starting point is 00:07:39 It just came on. I just, you just watched a preview for too long that it just charged you. I had to finish the end. Okay. Okay. Yeah, you definitely didn't purchase that. No. Yeah, you definitely didn't use it.
Starting point is 00:07:53 There is something. Are we going to call them or not? I was kind of buying time. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. All right, let's see this. Did he at least tell you what was in the intimacy kid? I'm very curious. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:08:07 All right. This is Billy Deuce. Do you usually call him at this time? Or is he going to be? Bill usually doesn't answer when I call. Honestly, it's rare when he answers. Is that why you didn't want to call him? Kind of.
Starting point is 00:08:30 It's embarrassing when you call people and they don't. Did you get you... Your call has been forwarded. See. Did you at least get a... Like, did he tell you what was in it? He said that it had lubrication. Prophylactics.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Okay. Two of them. And then some sort of edible jelly. Mm. Okay. So there's lots of lubs and jellies of some sort. Yeah. But I mean, let's do the math on that.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Think about how much they're probably. on these intimacy kits. What I just mentioned, that must cost, like, some poor bastard in China, like, 76 cents to make and distribute and package. And Vegas is making... Well, not if it was fair trade. It was fair trade loob. I don't think Vegas is in the business of fair trade loob.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Judging by the rest. That's the other thing. I, you know, I only do lube if it's fair trade. Organic. Yeah, cage-free lube is all I do. Non-GMO. cage-free lubrication. The other thing about Vegas, Miles, is that every single couch...
Starting point is 00:09:42 I think we just found a new bit. It could be a bit. Yeah, we could get into that. You could just say, you know, I would have done the intimacy package, but I only do organic lube, and they didn't have that. Is that just spit? The thing about Vegas is you walk into these hotel rooms, and they're usually really big, like whether or not they need to be, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:07 Big chair in every corner. Yeah. And every horizontal surface, you just see the ghosts of fornications past, you know? That's every surface I'm on in a Vegas hotel room. I'm just thinking of big. There was this one time. How many surfaces are you on in a Vegas hotel room? I would love to know.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I mean, I'll sit wherever. So we've got the floor, bed, and maybe a chair. in the corner. No, this hotel room that I was in had like six chairs in it. And they were all like that, like not even pretending to be full leathered, just straight up plastic, you know? Yeah, I'm easier cleanup. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:44 There was one time that I was walking into my hotel room in Vegas and like there was a fella in the room next to me and the door was wide open. Well, half open. He was the guy holding the door open. So he was the door stop. And he was just fully. ass naked. And he was like, hey, did you see a girl in a hotel in the hallway? And I said, no, dude, I'm going to bed. He said, could you go check for me? I was like, no, what? It's just
Starting point is 00:11:19 weird things happen in Vegas. Every time I go there. And this guy, he's just, he's fully, fully there. Yeah, when in Vegas? I know. But I mean, he's out of it and not chubbed up. or anything. Not as sure, but, but not caring either, you know. And it's, he was asking me like I was his roommate of 10 years, you know. He was looking for like more towels or what? No, it's just his girlfriend had went down the hall. I heard him, I heard a commotion. He was like saying, can you please just come back, you know, and they were yelling. I don't really know. I mean, it wasn't like. You think it was maybe a lady of the night? I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Could have been a lady of the night, and then she found out he didn't have any money. Any money, but that was Vegas uncut right there. Yeah. Fellow was on cut, by the way, yes. Oh, my God. You really, you really had the Vegas experience. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:12:18 There was another time in Vegas, Miles. I bet on the Packers to win the Super Bowl. Have I told you that? Oh, yeah. I haven't had a, I haven't had a ton of super like, oh, I won so much money kind of Vegas. Usually when I'm in Vegas, I'm ready to go after about 18 hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:37 That's about my max. From a guy who's never been there, it seems about right. Yeah, but anyways, you should come on out. We'll have a good time. Okay. So are you putting the hotel rooms on your credit card? Oh, I'll just take my bed and you can sleep on the plastic couch. That's that time.
Starting point is 00:12:54 What's your policy now on intimacy kits? I think we've all gotten the first one. I'll cover the first intimacy kit. The second one is on you. On my pocket. Yeah. So now everyone knows the deal with the intimacy kits. Do not touch.
Starting point is 00:13:09 You can look, but you can't touch. Yeah. Looky, free, touchy, $86. You know, they say you can't put a price on a good time, but I think Vegas did. It definitely did. Yes, it did. But anyways, Miles. Yeah, I'm excited to go.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I'm excited. It'll be fun. Be a good time. All right. Are you finally ready to give the people a test ride of your Vegas show here? Just one bid? Doesn't have to. I don't want a bit that you're putting in the show.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I want you to come up with one on the spot here. I think I was just riffing a bit right there. I think I was. I mean, it needs some work. I'm just trying to stress you out, honestly. It needs some work. Am I doing it correctly? I'm going to stress you out with that?
Starting point is 00:13:57 No, you're doing good. I'll be fine. It's like, I know what you're going through right now because it's like you're out doing normal people stuff. Someone comes up to you and is like, oh, dude, I'm a fan, whatever. And then you're like, Mom, this guy's on the internet. She's like, he's a comedian. And she's like, oh, say something. Tell me a joke.
Starting point is 00:14:19 That's the worst. Do you get that a lot too? A little bit. Probably not as much as you. But it is like, it's the worst feeling in the. the world. Yeah, I'm just like, I'm not that funny. Yeah, I just start repeating things my dad tells me, you know, you're not that fun. That's what makes you funny. That's what makes you funny. Well, so we do some callers, Charlie? Let's do it, Miles. Miles, this is the time of the year when
Starting point is 00:14:44 everyone thinks that winter, it's basically over, all right? So, you know, you're playing a road trip, like nothing can go wrong. And then halfway there, the wind picks up, snow starts blowing sideways. And suddenly, geez, Louise, you can't see 10 feet in front of you. North Dakota roads. I mean, they go from normal to white out in about 33 seconds flat. You've been a part of that. Remember, we had a winter squall that one time you were here? That squall was insane.
Starting point is 00:15:09 It came out of nowhere. Just imagine if I was in your truck and then someone slams on the brakes and other car slides. Next thing you know, I'm going ass over tea cattle into a ditch full of vehicles. And that's not what I want to see in a ditch. I want to see chickens there. But if a late winter road trip miles turns into an accident and injuries, and I'll tell you this much. Nicolay Law is there for you. Okay, so make sure you go to nicolaylaw.com or you dial 1855, Nickelay. Miles, I'll tell you what, this brunt quarter zip hoodie I got on with the pocket.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Pretty nice. I'm not usually a quarter zip guy myself. Yeah, now you say it. I don't think I've ever seen you wear one. It is. This is the first quarter zip I remember wearing in my life. Really? Yeah, in my life. Usually what I've had to do is it'll kind of tear here. And so I'll think I'm cool at the gym by kind of tearing it a little bit. And that's sort of my quarter ripped hoodie. But I've never had one of these. Don't sell yourself short, Charlie. You look quarter ripped in that quarter zip. Oh, Miles, Miles, miles. My God, the listeners are listening, Miles. But yeah, no, I really like this this quarter zip hoodie with the pocket. It's pretty slick. And I'll tell you, my, uh, my new Brunt work. boots are doing their thing just yesterday just yesterday guess what i stepped on a screw and what happened
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Starting point is 00:17:55 Drew. Shalom, brother. Dude, I am so excited for this call because the only thing I know about this, Drew, is that you are addicted to taxidermy. And the way that you answered the phone, you seem like a guy who would be addicted to taxidermy. Yeah, I guess you could put it like that. let me get the crowbar out for the rest of this conversation. Drew, what got you into the taxidermy game? Well, let's see.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Let's let's go back to my younger years. Probably about 14 years old. First started duck hunting and pheasant hunting with dad. Shot my very first wood duck, right? It was like 6.30. scared the dog crap out of them. Basically, did not call the shot. Did not know any better.
Starting point is 00:18:57 He just set me up with the 12-gidginz number fours, and I saw one calling, and I didn't even question it. Oh, yeah. On the third one, he kind of floated. He floated towards the riverbank there and kind of sailed down. Dad kind of jumped, scared him. But long story short, that one got mounted, and I sat there, and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:19:19 that is such a pretty bird, you know, because they got all that iridescent color on them, all that green and blue and purple and the full wing speculum and all that. Beautiful bird, right? Fully plumed out. So then, later that morning, dad sits there and pops a hand
Starting point is 00:19:35 and it lands right in his lap. Honestly, one of the better days that I've ever had when I was a kid. I thought it was great. So dad got it mounted for me. Took him a little while and get the money in that, but we got it done. made it into one big piece, all that.
Starting point is 00:19:53 So down the line, sit there and you get pheasants done. And then you look at them. And it's a very similar thing, all the color and everything, and you appreciate it. And you just sit there and admire it. And I'm like, you know what, this is nice, right? So then we sit there. And now I'm on my own, at 26 years old. And I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:20:15 I can do what I want. I have an adult job. I have adult money. I have my own place. I have my own dog. I can do whatever I want. So then I sit there and I'm going hunting left and right from basically September till like February now pushing into April because now I'm starting to get in the turkeys a little bit.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yep. But that's to kind of be to be seen as to how far that one's going to play out. So yeah. Now I'm sitting here and I'm just throwing money down the tube with this thing, seeing how far we can go. So you got a taxidermy addiction is what you're. you're saying? I guess you can say that, yeah. I've got probably like five birds in my freezer right now that I need to get in. I've got, I've got two snow geese that I'm supposed to be picking up here within like a couple weeks, if not here probably later this week. I got a deer that I just
Starting point is 00:21:08 brought in from this past year, which he was a, he was a tank. He was a brick house. So yeah, that was the first one I got a him. And a lot of these are kind of first. in a way it's like a collector thing, which I don't know if that's necessarily a good way of putting it to some of the audience out there. Yeah. Yeah, I know what you're saying. So how many taxidermied animals do you have in your house right now? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I started really pushing back in 2020. COVID really gotcha, huh? Yeah. I mean, I came back from overseas at one point. I was gone for like six and a half months. So I came back and my boss was like, hey, you got like a month off. He's like just kind of take your time and like readjust to the U.S. and the lifestyle and that.
Starting point is 00:22:01 So I'm like, all right, cool. So it's like December, January, right? So I'm sitting there and I'm like, I got nothing better to do. Why not go sit in the woods in that? I was sitting there and I was trying to bow hunt. And then I'm like, you know what? I want to try and change up the pace and go bird hunting that. So a lot of this has really gone to birds.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Well, let's see. I got one golden knife, green ring teal. I'm getting a mallard done. I'm getting a ring neck done. I got a pheasant. Actually, I have three pheasants. I got one black and two regulars. You shot a black pheasant?
Starting point is 00:22:36 Oh, yeah. That's sweet. And then the one. I've only seen one, but I've never. Oh, yeah, no. Granted, that was back around when I was like 14 or so. but yeah I got a nice black rooster um grandpa I think has the hand
Starting point is 00:22:54 because he was the thing on that one stubborn old meal uh anyway what else is that so how much would you say you've spent on your taxidermine oh gosh Charlie I mean within the past year alone I probably sunk in at least three grand we're just gonna keep chucking down the tube on this one because I'll pay for a good price on a good quality piece
Starting point is 00:23:16 Sure. So at what point do you just start learning to do this on your own? That's what I was going to ask. You know, I sat there in this week, actually this past week, I've really started to kind of think about that myself. And I kind of mentioned to my wife, I'm like, hey, when I retire or I get out of it, like I'm done with this job. What if I just go and do this instead? And how old are you? I'm only 26, dog.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I got plenty of time. Talking about retirement. So it's a long. ball. Okay, so you say, you know, retirement, but it sounds a little bit like you've been throwing around the idea of starting your own taxidermy business and getting rid of the nine to five. Yeah, a little bit, or at least doing it on the side. Now, one thing I would caution you with, it sounds like you really love this and you love, you know, hunting, you love all that. The quickest way to not love something anymore is
Starting point is 00:24:13 turning into a thing that you rely on for money. Well, and I've also thought about that aspect, too, because then my other worry with it is like, okay, if I don't do it or if it starts taking too much time or if I'm obviously not that great at it, why do it? You don't want to sit there and take somebody's trophy or a memory like that and then just sit there and take a giant dump on it. Yeah, you don't want to take, because we've all seen some bad taxidermy before. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:41 And I don't want to be that guy. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And you also, you know, you don't want to, it's kind of like you don't want the first house you build to be your own either. So you want to practice on someone else's, but you don't want to. Right. What does your wife think of all this? I don't know exactly what she thinks.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And part of me honestly doesn't necessarily care what she thinks because at that point it's my own endeavor. You better hope she doesn't listen to this podcast. That was the wrong thing. to say. It's part of me, not the whole thing. It's a conscious effort. Okay. How much of the taxidermy is she allowing you to put in the house?
Starting point is 00:25:24 Well, the snowy, she doesn't know about yet. I've forewarned her that a few birds are coming in the house. She said she's actually started the names of a taxidermy starting a couple years ago. Okay. That's fine. So she likes it. Yeah. So we got Jerry.
Starting point is 00:25:40 We got Gerald. We got Phil. Um, I think we got Walter. I think that that's about it. I think you need to name you got Jerry and Gerald. You should name one of them Jared for our Jared. Yeah, that would be nice. Well, it's Gerald.
Starting point is 00:25:57 It's Gerald with a G, not a G. No, I know. I'm just saying that you should do Jared next. I would love that. Jared would love that. What species would you like to be Jared? Water Buffalo. Oh.
Starting point is 00:26:10 I don't know if I'm reaching that far down to tube yet, my guy. well figured out we gotta get Jared on the mic more not no not Jared I want I want I don't give a fuck Jared because that's what that was that is good he's like I don't care
Starting point is 00:26:33 I kind of want to go cut to Jared in this podcast but he's just always a water buffalo on the wall you know too bad uh Jared's not built like a water buffalo unless he wants to be thank you yeah is that good or bad um
Starting point is 00:26:50 let's let him decide that one have you ever shot a duck so pretty you felt bad about shooting it I don't think I felt bad I don't think I've ever felt bad about I'll sit there and admire it and be like wow this thing was a beautiful living creature and I just sat there and I just clapped him out of the sky
Starting point is 00:27:08 all right I thought he was going down he's really tuning his own horn It gave its life so that, you know, we could sustain ours. You got to have at least a little bit of pride. Yeah. Oh, that's a good question. So every time I've gone duck hunting, you know, you breast them up and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Sometimes you can boil the carcass or whatever, get yourself. Oh, no. We do them all big dog. We do them whole. Okay. So that's my question. Like, so you can't like take the meat and then taxidermia at? no a lot of times once that thing is cut up it's pretty much game over as far as i know yeah
Starting point is 00:27:49 however i did do one thing where uh have you ever seen like a duck shoulder mount no so it's actually kind of neat in the sense that like you can still pull the breasts out of there and still get your meat and that worse out of it but if you take from like where their breast kind of starts yeah like if you're you look at like a mallard right because this is one that i had it on you basically take from where that skin kind of starts rolling up and from the bottom of his brown there and you start to roll it up and you don't tear it or you don't cut into it you can get them done kind of as a shoulder mount type deal that's hilarious i've never seen a duck shoulder mount that's how you know that you really are
Starting point is 00:28:31 addicted to yeah if you're talking about the duck shoulder mount you know next thing you do a squirrel shoulder mount as well or no tell you what give me one second here I'll send it to you guys yeah send it over yeah because like I like I've never gotten any kind of bird taxidermy because usually it's getting the meat but I was wondering because like with a fish you can take a picture of the fish let the fish go and then they can recreate the fish but that's obviously much tougher to do with a duck I'd imagine
Starting point is 00:29:03 huh yeah I don't think you're going to get that far on that one yeah all right you ever do any fish you know I used to and then I honestly just kind of quit fishing especially since now I'm stuck down here
Starting point is 00:29:21 in Illinois this damn state that's a shame I'm stuck in purtory down here I can't eat it don't quit fishing there's places to fish in Illinois yeah it doesn't
Starting point is 00:29:32 it's so damn hot and miserable and it's humid oh I just want out go out to northwest Western Illinois, though. There's some good, I think you guys actually have some good trout streams over there. So what is the coolest thing that you have hanging up in your house? You know, it's hard to sit there and say because I don't necessarily have a favorite because I sit there and I admire all of them.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Okay. But just just pick one. I guess, I guess I could sit. I guess I'm going to go with the pheasant on that one because you don't really see that many black ones. Yeah, the black pheasant is pretty rare. Yeah. And then I've got a 10 point coming with split G2s. And I mean, that thing, we tried to hang him up from a tractor.
Starting point is 00:30:27 And I mean, he was barely an inch off the ground. He was a horse. Oh, nice. Well, cool, dude. Hey, I like your duck shoulder mount. I think the duck still needs his shoulders, but Well, he's got the wings and that, but yeah, that's what that's what he's working with. I should be picking him up here later in the month.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Oh, you bought those. No, no, no, no, no. No, he's dead. I physically, like, he's, he got murked. He got murked. No, I, I know, but I mean, you, you, those are your, you got the birds and then that's the Texas Dermian being done on your birds, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Okay, got it. Yep. Yep. Oh, that's a nice, nice little paperweight for the desk there. I'll tell you that. Yeah. So he's going to go in the spare room there by the gun cabinet. And then the two snow geese are getting cupped up and then they're going to go right over top of the stairwell.
Starting point is 00:31:22 How do you know you can trust a taxidermist? Well, personally, I don't ever bring the bird in first. I sit there and I ask other people like, hey, let me see your bird. Where did you go? I kind of do the references and stuff like that. I kind of dig a little bit on their like Facebook pages or whatever. I do a lot of investigating in background research. Good.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Good. Do you have any taxidermists you recommend? You want to shout out right now? Ooh. White tails and waterfowl. I want to say he's down near Carbondale, Illinois. Okay. It does really good work, really good work.
Starting point is 00:32:02 What's the best name for a taxidermist you've ever come? across. The best name of tax nervous? I mean, they're all pretty much old dudes like named Brian or something. The name of their business. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:32:21 My fault, my fault, big dog. Let's see. Big dog, me. One guy's his is wildlife designs. Okay. That's the one that I brought my block to this year. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:35 It sounds upscale. Yeah, it sounds very, that sounds like they sell some wildlife pictures in there as well. He does a lot of, a lot of deer obviously come through there since he's in the Midwest and that. And then he does a lot of exotic stuff too, surprising. He does get some water buffalo and Cape Buffalo and stuff like that in there. I don't think he's done any like giraffes or anything,
Starting point is 00:32:59 like super, super huge. He's done a muscox in there. He's got a bunch of stuff. Does he like if a zoo, if an animal like passes away, do the zoos donate it to the taxidermist? Or how the hell do you get a freaking giraffe? I think you know how. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:17 You pay and go to Africa. Oh, it's one of those. Where you been, Charlie? Well, I didn't, I didn't know if they would, what are they going to ship a giraffe over here? What the hell are you talking about? Oh, you're going to ship a live giraffe overseas? What?
Starting point is 00:33:32 Or a dead giraffe. You're going to ship a dead giraffe. I didn't mean to say live. Like you have to, what? Think about the process, Miles. I know it's the second time you've talked about it being alive. Like I just imagine you think that the process is bringing a live animal to the taxidermis
Starting point is 00:33:50 and then they do that. When else did I say alive? I know. Did I say live at a different time? No, you shoot a, okay, so you, okay, you shoot one of these overseas and you're, what, is there a plane with just a big giraffe size refurb? I think you put it in a shipping container and you send it back. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:34:07 I would imagine so. I can't say I haven't gotten to that peak of life, you know? Okay. All right. No, I'm in the idiot. My bad. My bad. I'm with you that the logistics on a giraffe is quite extensive.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Yeah. Oh, I would imagine so. I mean, even if it's just a shoulder mount, you're talking about, you know, pretty big box. Where do you got to be in life that you're, you're going, you're paying to shoot a giraffe and then shipping it back and where are you going to put that? You better at high ceilings. Yeah, you got to have some giant ceilings in there, man.
Starting point is 00:34:45 That's got to be at least like a 30-foot ceiling. At a minimum. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I fed a giraffe at the... I fed a giraffe too. At the Phoenix Zoo when I was there. Their tongues are like sandpaper. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yeah. I don't know what you're doing. Hungry little fellas. they do like the little wrapier their tongue around the food yeah yeah yeah it's I don't think I could shoot a giraffe no no I don't think I could either I don't think I have that kind of taste in my life yeah I'm I'm but for me I'm I'm kind of a fisher first but I kind of draw the line on pretty close after deer I'm not much for one but you know I would concur what's that so that I would concur yeah but I mean
Starting point is 00:35:30 to each their own, I just am fascinated by the process. I think as you cross the line of like things like population control and stuff, it's like, it gets to be a slippery slope. Yeah. What are we doing? Yeah. Yeah. Should I really be doing this? You know, like if you got
Starting point is 00:35:46 bears running wild in your area and for a safety reason that we need to control the population, go ahead. Yeah, if the population is healthy enough, but yeah, I'm not you know, yeah. That's kind of how I feel. deer i get it they're gonna you know they're they get overpopulated they start getting that c wd
Starting point is 00:36:08 getting crazy you hit them with a car then you're taking c wd backstraps home well some guys are sitting there nowadays saying that that's a whole missing that but i'm obviously no scientists i just here work on here we go here we go some guys are just saying that they've been saying that since the beginning but either way either way uh we're excited excited for you and you know we hope that the wife takes these snow geese in stride because it sounds like
Starting point is 00:36:38 this might be a bit of a fight. Does she put up a fight on any of this stuff or are you just hoping for the best? I'm partly hoping for the best. Her thing is like she's like okay if you bring any more birds
Starting point is 00:36:54 in here at one point this was anyways. She's like if you bring any more birds in here like I want a tattoo in return kind of like a one for one thing yeah because that's what marriage is about is keeping score and having leverage over the other person yes yes yes it is miles it always has been always will be anyone tells you differently is lying to themselves get damn right do you how many tattoos does your wife have i think it's only two maybe three now it's not like it's not like she's tatted up and has sleeves and stuff like that yeah you get trade off you guys it sounds
Starting point is 00:37:28 you guys got a good setup going yeah yeah generally speaking we're we're on the same page for the most part every once in a while i'll tell her i'll be like what this is kind of the way things are going to go so just kind of a heads up i straight up told her i straight i showed up told her when i took off about two weeks she's like we have kids she's like you can't do this anymore i'm like we go through this every year what do you expect you took off two solid weeks two weeks straight yeah dude your wife deserves like five tattoos man I mean, we go through this every year. I don't ever buy a burger.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Well, that's good. That's good. Yeah, yeah. But I'm out there on a mission. And if I tell you got really cool, I come home early. My job is done. You're providing. That's what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yeah, I mean, mission accomplished. What else are you going to do? Sit there and fart around. Yeah. You can't eat taxidermy. That is, I can't argue with that. I now know how your wife feels. This is a very logical argument, and I agree.
Starting point is 00:38:34 What are you just going to sit there and fart around? That's just every conversation, Ender. It's like, how can you argue with that, you know? Honey, I'm going to. I'm going to go to Vegas with the boys for two weeks. What? You can't do that? What do you want me?
Starting point is 00:38:53 Just to sit here and fart around? I mean, what are you going to do? So, yeah, before I even left. for deer season this year. I straight up hold around like, hey, if I get a shot at this thing and I finish the job, I finish what I started. Like, he's going on the wall. Oh, okay. Wow. Dude. So not only are you gone for two weeks, you're demanding wall space too. I mean, I haven't. This is the first buck that I've had hung up like on like a full blown shoulder mount. Yeah. Otherwise, I just kind of zip the racks and sure do what I will with it.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I thought I knew what you would do with that. Now I got way more questions. What are you doing? You're doing something weird with the racks or what? No, you just kind of go in the basket in the garage or I sit there and I'm doing plaster repairs and I put them up on the wall. Okay. All right. Thank you for clarifying.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Yeah. Well, I figured you'd need that. Well, look, we are excited for you. and for your taxidermying and for your wife and for the health of your marriage. Well, I appreciate that, Charlie. Yeah. And let us know if you get anything, any chipmunks done. I've never seen a chipmunk mounted before.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I think that would be cool. Sounds good. All right. All right. Well, we appreciate calling in, dude. Yeah. Thank you guys for taking my. call and uh take your bartender uh watch out for deer and uh catch you later all right you too
Starting point is 00:40:38 we'll see you soon well he's got a good he's got quite the arrangement with his wife this is no miles this is the exact moment where i really wish we had the other side of the story yeah to have his wife on yeah i mean the way he talks about he plays it convincing like that's just the way it rolls in his house but you never know this is amber hey amber hey amber How are you doing today? Fantastic. It's a lovely day. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Yes, it is. Where are you at? We're going to keep that anonymous. Oh, she's at work. I keep anonymous here. All right, let's buckle in. I like an anonymous call. I like an anonymous call.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Is Amber your real name? No. All right. It sounded like a stripper name. Dude. Well, I'm a stay-at-home mom, so there's that. That's true. No. Oh, thank God. Sorry. Sorry. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:41:37 You're a stay-at-home mom? Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. How many kids? Right now we got a twin 14-month-olds. Wow. Yeah. And you said right now, are you going to have more twins or no? Maybe try for triplets next time? Maybe. Maybe. You know, they always say when you have, you know, like, you don't have. expect twins, you know, and like, I feel like for like psychology or like karma in the world,
Starting point is 00:42:11 I should start telling Ann that we should try for twins. That means that I'll never get twins, right? How do you tried for twins? That's also, I'm going to do that for now on new. You guys going to have any kids? Yeah, we've been trying for twins. Just to play it safe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:26 That's good. So how, yeah, anyways, so you got two twins at home. Well, yep. One set of twins. Correct. Correct. So we need your boy's advice. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Okay. Yeah. So my sisters and I recently put together the pieces that our dad and his new wife have a open relationship. Which no judgment. you do you. Well, it sounds like not just you. You do you and you and you and you. So the twins are 14 months.
Starting point is 00:43:12 So they're getting to the age where they're getting nicknames for everyone. And I need your advice on what we should. What would you call Swinger grandparents? I think you just call them grandparents. I don't know. Why do you feel the need at 15 months old to let them know like, hey, just so, you know, you're old enough now. You just started solid foods. That's time we had to talk.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Now that you're about to eat pineapples. Okay. You know, hey, you just, I can't hold it any longer. You're 15 months old. You can't fully talk, but you need to know that your grandparents are fooling around with other people. It's not. obviously not like that. But like it just doesn't feel right to say,
Starting point is 00:44:02 Grandma and Grandpa. Now they don't know that we know, but we know. Okay, okay. How do you know? Let's take it. We're like on step five. Let's go back to step one. What was the day you found out your parents or your husbands?
Starting point is 00:44:16 I forget. My dad and his new wife. Your dad and his new wife. How did you find out they were swingers? So there's a lot of him. but one of my sisters has started receiving messages online kind of like hey did you know your dad and his wife are swingers rude it's there's there's a lot of signs of like I mean I don't know what I don't think that's a sign I think that's just someone telling you why did they do that?
Starting point is 00:44:58 leading up to the messages. Well, were they creeped out or why did they, why that's an odd thing to just message someone. It is. It is. I don't know why. Okay. I have no clue. Do they have weird lawn ornaments?
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah. What? Certain animals. Flamingo? Maybe. Wow. You know, right. So they got flamingos up.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Flamingos up. Do they like pineapple on pizza? pineapple isn't their sign okay so what is that all right so you must have done some research so their sign is flamingos then and what does that mean in the Swinger community
Starting point is 00:45:39 flamingos from my research different groups have different signs so that would be their sign okay so it's like it's like a motorcycle club Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:57 The different attire and it's almost like a sports team. Yeah, right. Their logo. Right. I like motorcycle club more because it's like the Hells Angels, you know. What is? The philandering flamingos, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Do you like that, Miles? The philandering flamingos, right? I like that. Get the alliteration of the sound, you know? I'm going to I'm going to paint a picture of your dad because this is why I imagine a guy who's a grandpa who's also a swinger. I imagine he he's wearing a
Starting point is 00:46:31 jumpsuit, track suit a lot with lots of like gold bracelets and necklaces. He never wears a hat and he, but he wears like really comfortable like new bound sneakers. Easy to remove. Describe your dad for us. Describe your dad.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Does he look like a swinger? He's keeping young for his age. He's keeping young for his age. So he's working out. Yeah. Do you have a hot dad? You got a hot dad. I think I want to say it.
Starting point is 00:47:08 You can go ahead say it. You got a hot dad. Friends have suggested that your dad is a swinger or that he's hot. He's a dillfinigil. So is that, you know, if I hear from my friends that my dad is a swinger, are you starting to wonder if any of your friends have swung with your dad? I want to question their parents. Oh, so you think like, hey, when we were doing like, you know, like hockey tournaments as kids,
Starting point is 00:47:43 they let us go play in the pool by ourselves for a reason. Mm-hmm. Okay. You seem quite disturbed. Yeah, you're a little quiet, a little coy over there for someone who just called a podcast, talking about his dad's swinging. Swinging is, you know, around. What about your mom? Is she in the picture?
Starting point is 00:48:03 She is. Okay. Yeah, she's great. She has her own life doing her own thing. Does she have any opinion on it? She's mortified. But it makes sense because my dad could not keep faithful during their marriage. So it works out for him.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Okay. All right. Well, that's unfortunate for your mom. But great for your dad. We're Miles What he found a lifestyle That fits him so he doesn't get into trouble
Starting point is 00:48:34 Is his new wife his age? Is she older? Is she younger? She's his age Okay All right And so they are flamingos So what does the flamingo mean?
Starting point is 00:48:46 It's their group sign So I think Okay It's like the It's like you're saying like Oh no I'm sorry I wasn't cutting you off I was cutting miles off
Starting point is 00:48:55 I was I was I was trying to, he was giving me a look, so I was trying to give more clarity. What I mean by that is, weren't you give me a look? No. I saw it out of the corner of my eye. What I mean by it is like, do you know like what swingers prefer or what Flamingo people prefer? Yeah, are they swappers? Are they like full group? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are they, you know, maybe is it a guy, guy, girl, girl situation. Basically, you're wondering like what, if they're a football team, what play book are they running? Are they running the spread offense or they're going under center? They're probably going under center for being honest. You know, I try not to think about that part too much.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Oh, okay. Sorry, Amber. I don't care. You can talk about it. I won't. We are really curious now, though. Yeah. But I think it's our friends growing up, I think it's all of our parents have all dabbled. Okay. Wow. Because now that all of us, kids are out of the house, all the parents go on vacations together. They go to sandals. They go to resorts.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Do they? Probably go to sandals. I've heard things about sandals, Jamaica. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Do they have a place in Florida? No, not that I know of.
Starting point is 00:50:21 They go to sandals. Sandals, Jamaica has got some. swingers. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Have they been to Sandals, Jamaica? Mm-hmm. See, all the pieces are there.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Yeah. All these pieces. We're coming together. And then all of a sudden, my sister got messages like, hey, did you know your dad's a swinger? She goes, no, but I do now. Yeah. Tough to be that person to break the news,
Starting point is 00:50:47 but they definitely wanted to. What did you mention someone? Yeah. Okay. So it just doesn't feel right. Yeah, back to the original question. Raymond Grandpa. Why?
Starting point is 00:50:59 What's so wrong with that? It just. What do you want to call them? What do you want to call them? I don't know what to call them. Well, is it just the, because your mom is grandma, right? Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:14 And then your dad can be grandpa, you know, because. You can be daddy. Granddaddy. We're going to go to granddaddy and grandmommies. Oh, God. Itchy. This is an interesting question, though. I mean, we got to, we can't leave a stone unturned here because your, your twins are getting to the age where they're going to start asking questions.
Starting point is 00:51:43 You know, if they cross over that 18th month mark, I don't know how you're going to handle this. It might be, they're going to find out from one of their friends. It's like you guys found out. A whole other thing. Bad gas travels. fast. I love that phrase. Amber, you're great.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Okay, so what about your dad is grandpa, your mom is grandma, and then the other woman, whatever her name is, let's say it's Bertha. Nana. Just call her Nana. Yeah, how about Nana? Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Well, what were you thinking? Because we're doing our best here. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. The sentimental value behind grandma and grandpa, there's like a certain sentimental value because my grandparents were good
Starting point is 00:52:39 honest Christian people, love the Lord, and then yeah, my dad who just is doing his own thing. And again, no judgment to him. But Amber, you can't just keep judging him and then keep saying no judgment to him. You know, it's like, hey, Charlie, no offense,
Starting point is 00:52:59 but you're a piece of shit. Oh, none taking miles. Thanks. But I'm going to go home and cry now, Amber. So, you know, let's just be let's just call a spade of spay. You got judgment. And that's okay. It's okay. I think if you look at it from an unemotional, an emotional standpoint, before you found out, he was a swinger, what would his name of Ben? Yeah, I mean, run of the male standard. He'd have been Grandpa. And what would her name of Ben?
Starting point is 00:53:33 Probably Nana. Okay. Okay. So him him being part of the pink flamingos it doesn't affect your life at all in terms of it doesn't, you think he's what he's not going to interact with your kids
Starting point is 00:53:49 any differently? What's wrong? We're just calling him grandpa. That's true. That's true. And just because they go spread eagle at sandals doesn't mean that there are any worse people, you know, there's different strokes for different folks. And these folks just happen to do a lot of different strokes with a lot of different folks. A lot of different folks. And at the end of the day, who are we to judge? Exactly. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:54:18 So, Grandpa and Nana. And like, honestly, I think this whole. thing. I think the grandpa and grandma's thing is really about a larger issue here, Charlie. That's what I'm getting. I think it's I don't think you've come to terms with what's happened here. And so
Starting point is 00:54:37 thus you're channeling it through your freshly born twins and what you're going to tell them their names are. You know? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And Charlie, maybe we should help her you know, work through this a little bit. How does it make you feel when you found this news out?
Starting point is 00:54:58 Disgusted. What? Yeah. That's good. Keep coming. What else? He wasn't a great guy. But like, come on.
Starting point is 00:55:11 That. Anyway. Well, let me ask you this. Just devil's advocate. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Okay. Well, all I'm saying is before he was being dishonest about who he was. and now he's being honest about who he is with his current partner. So maybe this is a step in the right direction. Right. And I can respect owning up to who you are. I can respect that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:44 What would if, okay, so let's let's roll play here, Charlie. Yeah. You're her dad. And it's just you two. um you've you've taken a potion that you are suddenly comfortable talking about the truth and telling your dad the truth what would you tell him here to his face oh you turn the mic off amber honey how are you fantastic what's wrong seems like something's wrong it just you know my sister got a message
Starting point is 00:56:25 you and your new wife have been fooling around. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't know. What am I supposed to say? Well, you know, here's the deal. Me and Bertha, we love each other. And we view love is sort of an overflowing cup.
Starting point is 00:56:52 And we have so much love to give that we're wasting water. It's going on the floor. So our hope here is to spread the wetness around. Honey? I think this just boils down to different values, Dad. I really think it does. Okay. Well, honey, I respect who you are,
Starting point is 00:57:22 but I understand that you don't respect the values that I have. I do. I am who I am. and I have to accept that. But you do not. And I love you. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Hmm. Interesting. Can I get some donuts for the kids? Hey there, kid. Come sit on Papa's lap. Amber, what came up for you there? A lot of, a lot of something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:05 A lot of anger. Is that what it was? Anger. Disgust. Disgust. Have you seen inside out, Amber? I have. I have.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Well, we know that disgust sometimes is running cover for some other emotion. And when the time's right, we just want to touch that emotion. And then it'll have less power. You know, you might be on to something. I just saw a Disney movie Really? You think he is? Do you think he's on to something?
Starting point is 00:58:47 No, but I was going along with it. Ah, geez. Do you think you're ever going to confront him about it, or is this going to be, are you guys a sweep it under the rug family? Sweep it under the rug. Nice. So then just send them the podcast when it drops. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Just say, hey, there's a podcast you might like. You could just do like what the rest of us do and just drink and just ignore it. You know, I like that plan. It's been working for the last number of years. I think that'll work. Well, hang on here, Miles. The way she just responded to that, I, I, um, if I'm a therapist, I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get another session out of this.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Oh, you're trying to get another session. That's what therapists do. If they don't, it's bad business to fix people. That's true. Don't put a period on it. Put a comma on it. Yeah, a dot, dot, dot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:39 More to discuss next time. Have you had a therapist, Amber? I have, I have. And what does therapists say? Well, we didn't know about the whole swinger situation when we were with the therapist. Okay. You and your, oh, family counseling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Well, I'm saying for you personally, do you have your own personal therapist? No. That's why she called in this podcast. I love it. I love that you trusted us. Do you think this is just reopening old wounds? from when you were a child when your dad was being unfaithful to your mother? It makes me think about it.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah. I get that. Makes me think. Yeah. And it probably feels just like when you were a kid, doesn't it? When it first happened. I'm trying to protect my kids from that. Uh, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Well, we're packing stuff. And Amber, you're also trying to protect your inner child. That is true. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And you know what? Your kids are a good excuse to do that, but you don't need an excuse to protect your inner child. You're able to do that anytime you want and you don't need to justify it.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Okay. Okay. One thing also that maybe you will help you sleep a little better at night, kind of a band-aid situation. Grandchildren of divorce have it the best because they just get more Christmases without all the childhood trauma. That's true. It's like a silver lining of this whole thing. I think you're going to tell her to get a zero gravity bed. That too.
Starting point is 01:01:28 If you want to sleep better at night, get a zero G bed. You don't change your life. temporepetic? No, no, no. I had a temperedic. It sucks. It'll ruin you. Do not buy a tempapetic mattress. Sorry. Sorry, that just opened up a childhood wound for me. Let's unpack that there. What emotion are you feeling? Pain. In my lower lumbars. And have you seen a physical therapist about this? No, but I have a sister-in-law as a chiropractor and I've talked to her about it and got a few adjustments. So we're working through it.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Good, good. I did finally face it. I'm glad you're on that journey. I swallowed my pride and I got a real bed instead of a bed in a box. So. Time to fill up. Yeah. In the world.
Starting point is 01:02:23 I want, yeah, I mean, any other thoughts? Because Charlie, you know, we're being therapist here. Any other thoughts for her to think about? Or actually don't think about. No, I think Amber, the thing here is a lot of people avoid feeling pain because they think feeling the pain is going to lead to more pain. But I think when you really sit and feel the pain and it gets less and less over time, never goes away.
Starting point is 01:02:53 But I think if you have a moment to spare, just don't be afraid to sit there with that feeling. And, you know, and just let it be there. Okay, okay. One other question for you. If you could fast forward, we had a button, we could fast forward 20 years from now. And I told you, I said, oh, I'm going to give you a rundown of your children's relationship with their grandfather and said that he treated them just like normal grandchildren and didn't do anything bad to them. Would you feel a lot better?
Starting point is 01:03:34 I would feel relieved. Okay. All right. So let's just live life assuming that that's what's going to happen. Assume the best. Well, it's just you could spend the next 20 years worrying about it, ruin these 20 years with it, and then it never happens. Or you could not worry, you know, just like assume that something good will happen. And then if something does bad happen,
Starting point is 01:04:04 then you can deal with it then. Okay. You know, like calling them something different probably isn't going to change anything for what will happen. You know what I mean? But you kind of want to call. He's not protecting them from anything. You kind of, though, want to call him something else so he knows that you're mad without actually telling him why.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Is that what it is? That's what it is. Kind of. Yeah. That's that passive aggressive. What are you Catholic? Maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:33 For sure, Catholic. I also want you to think about... Sweep it all under the rug. Sweep it under the rug. So I want you also to think about maybe your dad's got some childhood trauma too. Have you thought about that? Hurt people, hurt people. I've thought about that.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I've thought about that. You know, maybe he feels the same thing inside that you do, but about a different scenario. Yeah, maybe. And instead of feeling his feelings, he's feeling Trish and Diane and, yeah, And Bill. Bill. Rob. Rob.
Starting point is 01:05:09 And Mark. Mark, too? Didn't Tim. Oh. Well. Oh. A lot to impact. A lot to.
Starting point is 01:05:24 I know some friends that are swingers, by the way, and they have a lot of fun. So at some point, if you do ever get over the whole, which probably is going to be a long shot, but they might be fun to party with. party with my swinger dad well you don't have to you can leave before that begins they don't just walk in and then just start doing stuff no just go for the cocktail hour yeah
Starting point is 01:05:50 go for the social hour don't stay for the main event yeah just keep your keys outside of the fish bowl and you'll be fine yeah go to the prelims you know yeah okay okay go to the grooms dinner not the wedding
Starting point is 01:06:07 Oh gosh Okay well I appreciate your input And unpacking my childhood trauma Yeah we did our best You know And maybe think about Instead of getting mad
Starting point is 01:06:20 Just getting more curious You know Miles read that on the back of a book Somewhere Curiosity killed the cat Yeah that's true Her dad got curious and now look where we are.
Starting point is 01:06:38 He's killing cats left and right. Cat killer. Meow. But also like, hey, life would be pretty boring if this wasn't going on. So, like, at least look at that. Like, you and your siblings have something to talk about now. Like, that's kind of fun. Like, what, you know, if you didn't have that, what are you guys going to be like, so how's work lately?
Starting point is 01:07:01 Right. You know, like, come on. Instead, you're like, what's dad working on lately? analyzing the Facebook posts. What Facebook posts? From the swingers trips that aren't. Oh, yeah, dude, that's fun. You're like decoding what went on.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Who was sleeping with who? And then who's commenting on what? It's a classic who-done it situation. That's awesome. Don't look at this is a bad thing with your dad. This is a bonding experience with your siblings. things. It is. It really is. That's fun.
Starting point is 01:07:40 It's very fun. I mean, it's not really that fun for you, but it can be if you, you know. Separating the emotions. Separating the emotions and just yeah. And the more you feel the emotions, maybe the less power they have over you and you can just talk to your dad.
Starting point is 01:07:59 You know, like dad, how is how is sandals? How is sandals? Who's who's Bill and Joan and why do they love you so much comment on your Facebook posts. Yeah. Why do they keep borrowing your hammer, you know? Cup of sugar.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Is that what they said? Cup of sugar? I think that was one of the comments that we found. Nice. You are in it. You are fully in it. Sugar Daddy. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Yeah, they mean to say that. You call them Daddy. I call him Sugar Daddy. she said cup of sugar so I put two things together came up with sugar daddy very clever very clever thank you Amber what you did there um
Starting point is 01:08:45 Amber before we let you go what were you planning to get from this call you know some good banter and see where it goes and I didn't quite know what you guys would I wasn't expecting a therapy session
Starting point is 01:09:02 but here we are we pack some stuff we learned some things we rearrange the garage you know yeah i don't think we really learned much i think we just pointed out a lot of shit we swept a little we slept a little yeah yeah now we're just going to sweep it out of the garage let the wind take care of it all right yeah we can do that we can do that all right what's too much for you to bear give to the wind damper there you go time. We appreciate you, Amber. You keep her moving and tell your folks we says hi. Good luck having the talk with your with your 14 month olds. That will not happen anytime soon. It's good. Yeah. We'll save them. We'll save them from the trauma. That's right. That's what that's what life's
Starting point is 01:09:57 about. You you shield the trauma so they don't have to. Exactly. Exactly. They won't feel it in any other ways. Okay. All right, Amber. You boys drive home safe. You too now. Watch for dear. Yes, sir. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Bye-bye. She was not ready. She's not ready for a conversation with her dad. I don't think. I think we did some bushwhacking in there. I mean, her dad did the bushwacken. But I think we cleared some trail that, you know, it's still a little rough.
Starting point is 01:10:36 but there's a treasure at the end of that trail and hopefully we started filling some of these cracks you know plugging some holes plugging some holes in the boat you know yeah you know started mopping up the floor I think I took it too far with that cup analogy that was aggressive way to start that was the beginning too I know not much for play in that conversation was there miles no um Amber will be alright yeah she's not the first person to find out that their parents aren't perfect she won't be the last right it's just how she goes well guys thanks for tuning in to another episode of the bellied up podcast it's been real miles it's been fun and uh to Amber cheers we're praying for you and your dad
Starting point is 01:11:36 I don't think Dad needs praying for that dude to live in a life He's had his prayers answer I was just like The whole time I was thinking I'm like dude He feels so free
Starting point is 01:11:47 He's like This is why I was born I was born for this And he's And he's hot on top of it Like him You could tell he's really hot too Yeah
Starting point is 01:11:59 The way she ignored that one She knows that he's hot He's working out Probably taking some tea too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, she gave us the tea
Starting point is 01:12:10 and her daddy's taking the tea and that's how life goes. And his wife is sucking the tea. Yeah. All right. Well, on that note, you guys make sure
Starting point is 01:12:23 you tip your bartender, okay? We'll see you the next one. And if you meet a swinger, don't tip them. Well, never mind. Okay, hope you guys have a good one. Goodbye now.
Starting point is 01:12:38 U-de-l-l-oo.

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