Bellied Up - Ex-Girlfriend Strikes Back #124

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

Our first caller presents his case on why Michigan should be considered the capital of the Midwest. The next caller is dealing with a breakup and wants advice on how to get her family cookbook back from her ex-boyfriend. (40:42) Our last caller gives us an update about asking out his supervisor's sister, and we help him work on his 'game.' Don't have time to call in? Call our Voicemail line and tell us what's on your mind 👇 218-303-5095 Check out our Clips Page 👇 https://www.youtube.com/@BelliedUpClips?app=desktop Get Yourself a "Road Hunting for Ditch Chickens" hat and other merch here 👇 https://ohhyoubetcha.com/products/ditch-chickens-hat Check out Charlie Berens Special "Midwest Goodbye" 👇 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wEzagimGjc Check out Myles' Podcast "You Betcha Radio" 👇 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQK1ATqc6L9wz4FAiun8kKw

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I am your host, Charlie Barron's. I am joined here by my good buddy, Miles, the you betcha guy. Charlie, how are you doing today? I'm doing good, Miles. I'm doing good. I am. Where are we at today? Well, we are in Minnesota we are fridley, Minnesota and my saying that right you're in a soda Fridley Minnesota at the two stooges bar and grill I'll tell you what I'm drilling bar bar and the two stooges bar and grill

It's got skills. It doesn't even talk about in the title I know there's 40 some odd pool tables here. Well, is it is it called the two stooges pool hall? Yeah, both ways. The two stooges pool hall bar and grill. That's what we'll say. Okay. What do you say? How many? There's 40 some pool tables here at the bar. The fellow told me when was the last time you really played pool miles? Well, we played when we were in LA Charlie Yes, we did. We went to a bar in was a West Hollywood Hollywood now

Yeah, we've sold out Our sellout call a spade a spade. Yeah, and we went to Hollywood. We did the target video Mm-hmm. It was fun selling out for target. They do a good job there and then we went over to, we're staying right next to the comedy store. That's where I started doing standup bags. You used, that was the origin story. That was the origin story for the man. Talk man up there in the belly room, bring her show. How did it go initially when you were doing standup at the comedy store? Bad. No, actually, I went to the Comedy Store. That was like where I went after a lot of open mics

and it was a bringer show. So I brought people and it was a belly room. It's not the best room there necessarily. It's where a lot of the beginning comedians, where the bringer shows would be. Now also huge comedians play that stage too. But whatever, it's more of a workout room. You know what I'm saying? So, um, yeah, I would, you know, buy tickets for people to come show up. I was, you remember free your

first set or at least one joke from your first set or like, or one that used to sticks out in your mind from the very early stages. Oh yeah. I said the iPad is the best parenting tool since the nipple. You know, like that one. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of, does that still work? Yeah. It's still playing. You know, it's funny. I was, I was even talking about technology back then. That's true. Another question. What, what do you think was your worst joke you've ever said on stage? I don't do standup, but I clearly have a worst video that we ever did was called Midwest ASMR. It actually was good ASMR, but here's people didn't care and did not watch it and thought it was dumb. I liked that video. Did you? I saw it. I was like, Oh, that's a great idea. I liked it. And then it, yeah, you always bring it up. Is it a bombed? I enjoyed it.

Bad jokes. I've had a lot of bad jokes, dude, but there's got to be one that sticks out in your mind that you remember just especially bombing. Um, believe it or not, I have, um, this trauma based method I do where I call blacking out those things. That's probably good. It can't, it allows you to get back up on stage. Yeah. I mean, I would have to go back through my notes.

I'd have to go back through my notes. I'd have to go back through my notes. Okay. Maybe maybe in another episode you'll you'll go through your notes and you can tell us your worst joke you ever said. Yeah. There's some bad ones in there. So anyways, yeah, but we're here at the two stooges. It's a great name for a bar too. Yeah.

You got me way in my head trying to think about these bad jokes. Sorry, sorry. All right. Yeah. And awake tonight. I mean like, God, that joke was bad. I suck. Just my demons returning. No, it's a super cool bar. It's fun. Maybe we'll play some pool later. Yeah. Pool is a tough one to get good at. You gotta have a lot of quarters in your, in your life. You also got geometry. Are you a geometry guy? I like the concept, but I don't practice it enough to be good at it. You know what I'm saying? You know what the Pythagorean theorem is?

Oh, sure. Sure. Pythagorean theorem. I'm not a fan of that. I'm not a fan of that. I'm not a fan of that. I'm not a fan of enough to be good at it. You know what I'm saying? You know what the Pythagorean theorem is? Oh, sure. Sure. Pythagory Pythagoras. That's equals MC squared, right? No, X plus Y equals X, Y. That's like the hypotenuse, right? I believe it's a squared plus B squared equals C square. Is that the Pythagorean theorem? I'm getting confirmation. Yes. And is that how you find the hypotenuse? You can. Yeah. You can use it to find any part of the length of the triangle. Correct.

If you got the hypotenuse and the other, and one side, you can get the other one. You know, I started doing some more woodwork and there's a lot more math in woodwork than I than I remembered and I started doing back of the sheet math and I'm actually not bad at math. Yeah, we very not like I got a bunch of it in the dome still. Yeah, I would agree. It's you're like, when am I going to use this? And then all of a sudden, you know, you're trying to square up a piece of wood that you're doing and you're like, okay, if this is 36 degrees, then the opposite, it should equal 90. Yeah. 90 minus 36. Yeah. No, but what is 90 minus 36? Oh, I'll do it right now. Nine, oh, my three, six, four degrees. That's 10. That's four

nine. That becomes an eight, eight minus three 54. Yeah. I just did it right there. So how do you do that in your mind? I obviously just did it. I do it like, I like to write it down, but I, as I go, I'd go, what's 90 minus 30, 60, 60 minus six is four. Ah, I like that. I like that. When, when I'm doing the tip, I just take the thing and I double it. I just add an exclamation or add a period, move the period up and double it. So if it's $93, you tip. Yeah. Yeah. That's an easy one. So 18 is 20% of that. But well, 18.8 18, six. Sure. I, I, I move it. But well, 18 point 18, 16. I I move it up a scotch, you know. But I did a bunch of math for all this woodworking stuff.

My sister was over in my garage. She picked it up off the floor and she goes, oh, my God, like, you know how to do this. And I was like, do you not know how to do that? And she was basically saying that they didn't have to do this kind of math. And I was like, you know what? Well, this world's not changing for the better. You should have said you should have said, well, we'll see if I can do this

kind of math after I get it together. Yeah, stays together. Here's the spoiler. I did the math wrong. Yeah. Oh, 1000%. I had to do the math two times over. But it's crazy. Like, yeah, we're we know old math now, miles.

I mean, it's the same math, but like, you know, they've given up like cursive is another thing. Kids don't learn cursive anymore. That's probably good. I suppose you don't need it, I suppose. But now that I know it, well, I don't know. Now that I know it and they don't, it's like the one of the few like superiority things I have going on these days. So I'm just going to cling to it. I like it. Should we take some calls? Yes, we should. Charles. So something else to ask you, but nevermind. Let's take some callers. Yella. Welcome to the bellied up podcast. Who are we talking to? Hello. Hello. Welcome to the bellied up podcast. Who are we talking to?

Have my. Oh, is he whispering? Are you doing something? You're not supposed to be. I think it's not that important. What do you say? It's just college. It's not that important. Are you in class right now? I feel like I should important. Are you in class right now? I feel like I should whisper. Are you in class right now? Well, I walk outside now. Okay. Okay. What class were you in? Valuation. That's like a corporate

finance class. Just a bunch of, you know, lame stuff. Yeah, a bunch of corporate bullshit. I think you're making a right life decision right here. No, nobody wants it. Well, what's your name? Where do you go to college? My name's Michael. I'm a second time caller. I go to Wayne state. I'm the guy that called like a couple months ago about what makes a good middle-aged football coach You guys wouldn't believe I've actually said it a few times but the other coaches actually say it more than me now So it's kind of fun. Oh Another football team saved you guys wins. I've got to go through the roof this season. Yeah 100% what's what's your guys' record so far? Have you

played any games? Um, yeah. So it's funny. The last time I was on that butchered one of your reoccurring jokes, um, the whole Toledo is like three Milwaukee's or whatever. We lost to the same tool. We lost to the same Toledo team this year. Last year we lost on the last play of the game by two points. And this year we lost 37-7. We got our asses whooped. Other than that, I'm good.

Did you tell the team afterwards to take a lap? There's been many laps of taking this year. That's good. They're going to eventually they'll win by just taking laps. Yeah. Oh yeah. Now what, what makes you call in today? Um, wow. Uh, well I had a list here in my notes, things I wanted to talk about. Yeah. So, um, so, uh, I have, I had something on my mind.

I don't think everyone, anyone's ever brought this up, but it might be a controversial topic in terms of Midwest culture. But I need to ask you guys a quick series of questions in order to get to my point, is that okay? Yeah, let's do it. Okay, just yes or no answers. Charlie, I know it's gonna's do it. OK, yes or no answers, Charlie. I know it's going to be hard for you, but yes or no answers.

OK. Just roasts me. All right. All right. Fair, fair. Yes or no. OK, you ready? Yeah. All right. Do you like hunting? Yes. Yes. Do you like going on boats on big lakes or little

lakes? Yes. Yes. You like good fishing? Yes. You like good football teams? Yes. Yes. You like hockey? Yes. Yes. You like cheesy crust, deep'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Do you like looking at your hand and showing where you live in your state with your hand? Yes. Yes. You know, he's going with us. Do you like Oberon? What Oberon that like the beer the beer no Mmm. I do like kid rock. No She's like muscle cars you like I You like them I Know mine Wait actually in the hold on shit Charlie. Do you drive a Chevy Volt? I think I remember hearing that in the podcast. Yeah Yes

I'm asking the wrong guy all right point is I Think we need to make Michigan the capital of the Midwest. Oh god I knew he was going Michigan route See as soon as he brought up the hand Yeah, and then he brought up the whole like Jets pizza I had to break it to you

But basically the only things that aren't in the rest of the Midwest that you listed off was the deep dish pizza that we were kind of 50-50 on anyways and kid rock right and Muscle cars. Let me just, I like a nice old car. Okay. I like a piece of shit. I don't like those cars that people are like trying to, you know, add inches to their pecker with like the loud sound of that. That's what I think of with the muscle car, but I like a nice. I like, I like an uncle. I actually don't like the electric vehicle, to be honest with you. Like it's, it's kind of stupid.

What I really like is like a 1980s diesel, uh, um, like stick shift car. Okay. But if you, if you were to get a, uh, I do the electric thing, cause I like wall eyes, I like like the planet planet but really if I like driving something It's like a diesel stick shift like little pickup truck. There you go. I like a little pickup truck Not a monster. Yeah, I can think you know, yeah, maybe they don't make like an s10. Are you thinking I love the s10 Freaking love the s10. That's not even diesel. But I think we're going to have to maybe pass on making Michigan the capital of the Midwest just because there's so much overlap with

other stuff and the stuff that makes Michigan unique. We were kind of 50 50 on anyways. Yeah, I do. I don't disagree with you. Now that I know that I'm saying all this out loud. Yeah, you should. You know, you should consider not skipping your law class. Okay. Because I feel like I feel like you had some good tactics there. But so speaking of class, you're in class right now. What is the topic for today? Oh, I don't know. I haven't been paying attention. Okay. Well, Charlie, if he's going for corporate business is what it sounds like. Yeah. If

you were the professor for a corporate business class, what would you teach during that class? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to corporate business 101. First thing I'm going to tell you is that your money is the bottom line. You are going to need to bribe politicians, destroy the planet, and put humanity at risk. But you will have the opportunity to make a lot more money than all the people you're screwing over. Who's with me?

I was thinking maybe more like, make sure you're drafting up emails that you never need to be sent. Oh yeah. And make sure you write per my last email. And I hope that this, this finds you well and deliver bad news and then be like, hope you have a great Friday. That's what I was thinking. I've learned more in this short 30 seconds than I have in the first three weeks of the semester. There we go. We gave you the cliff notes of corporations. So it's all about the emails and screwing over the little guy.

And in corporations, I would also have a failing upwards, a one-on-one class. Yes. You know, it's not really about how well of a job you do in corporate companies. It's about, dude, does the boss like you? Yeah. How little risk can you take and still kiss? It's little risk kiss boss's ass. That's kind of, that's kind of how it is. The bare minimum. So you limit yourself to really messing up and then just kiss the boss's ass. You're going to get promoted like that. Yeah. And then you just worry all the time about getting fired and, and then you eventually get fired or retire and die. And that's corporate

life. That's what you're getting into. Yeah. Yeah It's how go well you do have options say I Wanted to say the whole listing that I made I really like how bad of an idea It was once I got like halfway through because I probably had like I was only like a third of the way through the list But now saying it out loud. I'm like wow, this just sounds like every other state I'm glad you shut that down early then because we get through a lot of callers today. It wasn't, it wasn't a bad thought, but yeah, you gotta kind of roll it off the tongue to make sure it, uh, it works, you know, you know, it's even funnier as I, as a, I walked into this like glass room that was empty to talk to you guys. My professor just walk in

the hallway past me and didn't see me. Hey, welcome to the corporate life. Yeah, he just doesn't see you. You are invisible to him. You are just a pawn on the chessboard to him. Wait, why isn't he in class? He might have ended or it's looked in at two. It's one here. So you know, I might just be my back. I might be sitting in there. Oh, you're in Michigan. Oh, I forgot. You said where you were. Where are you at again? Yeah. Michigan. Yeah. Yeah. Um, well, um, that's great, man. Well, hey, thanks for calling in. I'll call him again and have less of a lame topic

besides, uh, Michigan, the capital of the Midwest. I'm glad you said it. Not us. Yeah, we're good. Well, we'll chat soon. All right. You see you soon. See you soon. All right. Bye bye. In reality, though, you know, going to college to be a doctor, lawyer, you need college, right? To be working at a corporate company, just sending emails back and forth. I don't think you need to go to college. I don't think so. You can learn

how to do any, anybody can learn how to do that. And honestly, it's pretty much automated at this point. Like those jobs just aren't going to exist in like five years. True. So anyways, glad to know that is with the football tactics that we gave him advice on our working. They have blown out. Yeah. Just goes to show that the less water that they drink, the more conditioning that they do, the more that they win. And that's proof here today. We saw it here. Also, Charlie, he said Toledo. Do you remember how big Toledo is? Toledo? I want to say Toledo. It's like a third of Milwaukee. Well, how big is Milwaukee? Milwaukee's about three Toledo. Okay, got it. Perfect. Should

we take another caller? Let's do it. Hi, this is Kaylee. Hi, Kaylee. You're here with Charlie and Myles. Hi, I can't believe I actually made it on. Oh, you made it on. What's your rant? So, my ex and I, we broke up back in December. So, it's been a while. And it took forever to get most of my stuff back from his house because I was living with him. took forever to get most of my stuff back from his house because I was living with him

and he still has as silly as it sounds, a recipe book that I have and it belonged to my aunt that passed away not too long ago and it's been nine months and he still has it and he still sends me pictures that he has it and he lives four minutes away from me. Oh, so does he really like your aunt's cookies or what's he keeping it for? Is this like you left the handkerchief? First of all, do you leave this behind? Someone can go over there and get this back. One of you still hanging on to this relationship is that you were him. One of you still hanging on to this relationship, is it you or him?

So yeah, here's the thing too. So he moved in a new girl into his house two months after we broke up. So I've been avoiding going over there like the plague, but I've been trying to be like, hey, I will meet up with you, even put it in your mailbox and I will drive by and get it. Or I will meet your dad even. I don't pick it up and he just will not get it back. Well, one, first off, have you seen the economy rents not cheap. He's got to get another renter

in there. So I don't, I, you know, kind of a bad move, but also I get it. The economy's tough. I was about to go off on why you shouldn't live with of a bad move, but also I get it. The economy's tough. I was about to go off on why you shouldn't live with someone after two months, but economically speaking in this economy, you gotta have renters. Make a good point. Here's the thing though. She does not work and she does not have a license or a car. And he like, we live about an hour and 45 minutes north of Minneapolis and he went down and picked her up the very first time they ever met to move her into his house.

Whoa. Well, clearly they were hanging out before when you guys are still dating, correct? They met on Tinder, which he made that account the night I moved out, which was the same day we broke up. So he was, he was moving pretty fast. Why did you guys break up? What happened? So we were together for two years and then he started getting like kind of weird. And I vowed to never look at his phone without his permission. And I've looked at his phone and he had some pictures from other

girls saving his snapchat for the whole two years that we were together. So yes, we were correct. Charlie, that's that is well also you. I thought you were a woman of your word. You said you were never going to go through his phone. Yeah. So I know how did, how did I know the one time I did it bit me in the butt. I know it's like he just gaslights are like you you're saying that I'm, I'm a cheater. Well, you're not a woman of your word. How can I trust you after this? Actually I want to break up. I can't trust you anymore Well, you're not a woman of your word. How can I trust you after this? Actually, I want to break up. I can't trust you anymore. And you're like, what? How did

this happen? It was even worse because we were in the same hot, like we were in the same room and I'm like, Hey, what's this? And he's like, I'm leaving. And then he went to go hang out with one of his friends. And then he texted me, I'm not doing this anymore. And I'm like, okay, Hey, he knew, he knew it was bad. He's like, he didn't even try and fight it. He knew it was only a matter of time. It's like the thing ended, you know, like you, you're speeding on the highway and the cop pulls you over and you don't even try and make an excuse.

You're just like, yeah, I die. I was going 95. I deserve a ticket. Just give it to me. I'll pay it and we'll move on. Yeah, this isn't happening. Do you think he was seeing other people though, or was it just the pictures from past relationships? It was definitely like, oh these random girls are adding me. I'm gonna add them back and see what this is about. Adding them on what Instagram, Snapchat, Snapchat. Did he do a lot of trips up North? Is he a fisherman or a hunter? The only time, the only time he went fishing up North without me was for a bachelor party. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, let's get back to brass tacks here, Charlie. How are we going to get that cookbook back? All right. Do you have a baseball bat? No, but I should probably invest in one. I would invest in one walk

over there, go to the door, break the window, unlock, open it up, get the cookbook, break a couple knee caps, walk out of there. Miles, any thoughts on that? I mean, I was thinking another route, you know what you could. I mean, basically, you got to figure out a way to get them out of the house so you can get in when they're not there. Because if you break a window when he's there, that's going to be bad. Wow. So you're talking about breaking an earring? You're going to get her put in jail, dude. Oh, really? Yeah. Like, what are you...

Well, I mean, in all fairness, his house is in rough enough shape where I could break down a door and they probably wouldn't even notice. Okay. Well, now we're onto something. No, I, well, do you ever see them around town at all? Occasionally in my family, she is done more than I do. Your family. I work. Yeah. Like cause since he looks so close, I also live with my family now because I was living with him when we were together. And so like my mom or my brothers will see them out and about like in passing at the

grocery store or whatever. But I work from home most of the time, so I don't ever... Yeah, I would go out. I try to avoid him. Why do you think he just doesn't want to give this thing back? Like, is he still hanging on? That's what I was thinking. But there's one recipe in there that was like his favorite that I would make for him all the time.

I don't know if you've ever heard of like the dill ranch pretzels. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I have a family recipe of that, that he was obsessed with, but that recipe was handwritten by my aunt who obviously passed away. I mean, this guy is, this guy is an absolute idiot. Why don't you just take a photo of it with your phone and give the recipe book back? Yeah, there's gotta be some deeper than that. I mean, that sounds like a great recipe.

You sound like a catch, but this guy sounds like he's got a couple of screws or he's still holding on. Yeah, like he does concrete right now. But every time, like when I was living with him, I would make dinner for him, even like stay up late and make sure dinner was hot and ready for him. When he got home, I did all the cooking, cleaning, added grocery shopping, and apparently that wasn't good enough. So he went with a hobo. Oh, okay. Shots fired. Did you work as well in addition to doing all that?

Yep. I actually have two jobs. Wow. This guy sucks. Why, why, why did you, why'd you stay in that? Yep. I actually have two jobs. Wow. This guy sucks. Why, why, why did you, why'd you stay in concrete guys? A bad name, Charlie. Yeah. He really is. Well, I thought he was a really good dude and I really liked his family. We always went out every Saturday to his family's place in Cambridge and we would play cards and whatever. And I still, I still have all of his family on Facebook. Like they like all my stuff all the time. None of them removed me.

The only reason why he has me off of Facebook is because his girlfriend found out he was texting me. So she blocked me. Wow. You should maybe just pretend like you want to get back together with them, text them, all of that. And then he then loses another relationship. Yeah. I mean, but I, I, I, I get a kick out of the fact that you stayed with him because he had a cool lake house. I respect that game. Yeah. That's that's uh, I think we got to the root of it there.

No, there was no lake house or anything. Like we would just go down and like play cards Like it was nothing nothing fancy. It was just like the quality time. I guess you could say camaraderie. Okay. Okay, fair enough well, you seem like a really good person he seems like a pain in the ass and You're I think he's still hung up on you and I think you might just have to, or he's just super. Why don't you just, if you're got a good relationship with this family, why don't you just have them go get it for you? Seems reasonable. I tried that too. And all they do is give me a thumbs up and then I never get anything back about it. Classic move. I even, I even tried texting him on like TikTok last night because that's the only thing we're friends on now is TikTok. And I'm like, Hey, it's

been a while. Can I have it back please? And all he said was, yep. Yep. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I bet you since she doesn't do anything, she's just there all the time. So there's never really a good time. Well, and he probably lied to her about what the recipe book was from. And now he can't go back on that one. He's like, oh, it was his aunt. Yeah.

Or is my grandma's or something. And then if it's not there, she'd be like, what happened to the recipe book? And he's like, I threw it away. She's going to get real suspicious. Go through his phone, see that he's texting other girls and some cycle repeats. Yeah. Yeah. The nice that well, yeah. The other thing is you can call our buddy Russell Nicolay. You know, I don't know if that's the kind of law he participates in, but I bet you he could get

that cookbook back. I mean, I'm sure I could just say I was happening to walk across the road and I happened to trip in a pothole right in front of his house. And then I could skew the homeowners for homeowners insurance. Yeah, I can do that. Weird thing, I'm very creative about this now, I like it.

See, that initial idea I said with the baseball bat and the kneecaps, that was bait for one of you guys to tell me that's never gonna happen. None of you really like it. See that initial idea I said with the baseball bat and kneecaps that was bait for one of you guys to tell me that's never going to happen. None of you really took it. And now we came across the, the actual solution. Yeah. It was just a brain racking thing. I didn't actually know. I knew that. Yeah. You're good. I was going to hold you to that. No, I'm saying that now that we bring legal scholars in and they may listen to this. So I can't have any of those loose ends out there. Yeah. You were joking. I was joking. It was a goof. It was a goof. Yeah. I was imploring sarcasm. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we appreciate you calling

in today. We hope you can get your cookbook back. I think I don't know what to tell you. You know, you could try Charlie's way, I guess. No, no, no. Oh, Hey, I actually, I actually, um, uh, I actually just thought of something. Okay. Okay. Okay. Nope. That's illegal too. All right. I just thought about it a little bit longer. Sorry. Oh, it's okay. You involve breaking and entering the call. Yeah. We're glad we're happy to talk to you. Sorry about your walls. Hey, the right guy is just around the corner. Maybe in one day. I mean, as long as I have a job and my bills are paid, I guess that's the most important thing for me right now. Yeah, good for you. You sound awesome.

This guy sounds like a putz. So you made the right choice and God bless you. Thank you. Watch out for deer. All right, you too. That guy sucks. That guy does suck. That guy sucks bad.

Also, to live with somebody after two months. Yeah, you have to pay me to do that. That's a brutal situation right there. Yeah. And it's like. You know, the person. Yeah, you definitely got to make sure they still have their place for at least a while, even if they're coming over every day. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. So just in case, just in they're coming over every day. Yeah. Right.

Right. Right. So just in case, just in case you need that separation, you will, you know? Yeah. And then otherwise you're just like codependent, you know? And then you lose a recipe book that your aunt gave you and she's passed away. Tough situation. It is a tough situation.

Miles Halloween is coming up. You like Halloween, Charlie? Yeah, I do. I like trick or treating. I always love trick or treating growing up. And one of my favorite things about trick or treating is adults, sometimes trick or trick, trick or treating, trick or treating, you know, because it's do when you adult trick or treat Charlie. Same thing as you do as

a kid, except you get adult treats. So I just want to welcome, are you talking like a full size candy bars or what do you mean by treats? Let me tell you this much. The equivalent of the full size candy bars for an adult is a full tippy cow full size tippy cow. Yeah. I like that. You just stick that right in the old bag of the next adult that comes to your door. You're going to make their day. They're going to pay it forward. Yeah. I tell you what, if I, my kid, when he gets to the age of trick or treating, I'm going to, I'm

going to want the other people to have tippy cow waiting for Me at the door. Yeah, it's candy. I get tippy cow. I like the way you think miles I like the way you think well this Halloween folks. Hey make some adults day Make it a tippy cow move Alright guys, we have our favorite lawyer on the line. Mr. Russell Nicolay. How are you doing today? My guy I'm doing good. How about you guys? We can't complain. I'm real good. Russell. I have a bellied up to the bar thought that creeped into my mind. Invasive

thought? Not really. It was just a thought. Okay. Um, and my question to you, Russell is how hard is the bar exam? Is this no way can be that hard? That's a good question. Cause you know, everyone's complaining about, you know, I got to study for the bar. I fail. And then they pass it. They celebrate. Is it really that hard? I think it is difficult, but one of the big things with the bar exam is that so you, you know, you went to a four year university and got your degree. Then you took the LSAT to get into law school. Then you did law school. And so it's kind of like every, you know,

all your eggs are in one basket and I think that's one of the things that makes it really difficult because you put all that time and effort and money into it and It's like this is the this is your ability to actually be a lawyer Otherwise, you just have a law degree and you're not a lawyer so I think that's part of it and I also think that like the hard part is Usually you take it and then I think it's like the hard part is usually you take it and then I think it's like two to three months later you get your result. Well, all your classmates and buddies or whatever are saying, hey, I'm a lawyer now and you don't want to be the

one that's like, oh, dude, I got to tell him I didn't pass it. I can't put like lawyer, you know, I say I'm a lawyer because you can't do that. So then you just have to say you have a JD. So there's that pressure, but it is difficult. It's weird because there's sections that are like the multi-answer portion that goes over everything. And then there's like for Wisconsin,

there's like this specific essay for specific Wisconsin law questions. But I don't know if you guys knew this or not, but in some states like Wisconsin, if you graduated from the law schools in Wisconsin, which is UW or Marquette, yeah, you don't have to take the bar. Yeah. You just are a lawyer. Yeah. Why is that? You know, I, that's the state, some states have that. I know there's a push for more of it. I, I kind of liked the bar exam. I mean, part the state, some states have that. I know there's a push for more of it. I, I kind of liked the bar exam. And in part of it, maybe it's that I took it and

passed it, but I think it is a good way for you to get ready. Yeah. Not to brag humble brag, but the pressure that you get, like as a law student or as, you know, taking the bar exam is not anywhere near the pressure. I think has to be a real lawyer because when you're doing all that theoretical stuff, you don't actually, you know, you don't have a client that future depends on your decision making. There's no stakes involved, you know? Right. So I like the challenge.

I think it's good. I think they need to keep it, but it is difficult. I think I was looking at something and I think in Wisconsin for people that did take it It's like sometimes some years it's 90% some years it's down to like 72% The scary part is if you fail it I think every time then you would retake it your chance of passing goes down So it's kind of like diminishing which are like getting worse and worse that you know, the odds are against you to pass So you really want to make that first one count.

Cause you probably get way more nervous the second time and then way more nervous at third time. I mean, that's great. Can you imagine having an entire law degree that you need to pay for and not a lawyer's salary? That's terrifying. Right. Isn't it?

Yeah, it's very high. then what are you gonna do? Generally that's gonna pay back those bills if you don't have a look because you have a lot of you're gonna you don't have Ability practice. I mean you're gonna start selling drugs obviously I feel like they gotta figure something else out All right final question for you If Charlie and I both studied for an entire year Who is doing better on the bar exam? Do you think me or Charlie? Miles I think you always do this and we're gonna pay with one against the other Well, I know so

Charlie I know has a degree in journalism, right? So that, that could, that could be a big asset, but I know miles has got a lot of like on the job experience dealing with things. So I think it'd be a toss up. You can't sit here compliment both of us called a toss up and get out of this. What do you think you want? Someone's got a lot of on the job experience is not exactly a compliment. I think it is. Hey, I think it is because there's something to be said. If you've been out working, I mean, you just learn a lot because it's the way of the world.

Like you got to get, like, there's a lot of people that get a degree that's very difficult for them to get out and get things done. So one thing who would handle the pressure better? Who would handle the pressure of being locked in this place for basically two days with all the marbles on passing? Russell, you just proved why you're a great lawyer. Miles tried to paint you in a corner. Pick me or pick him.

You complimented both of us. You turned the question back around onto us. That's good lawyer energy right there. You see what he did there, Miles? Yeah, I object. I'd like him to choose one of us. Okay. Miles is always doing that.

I need to know more. I think, wasn't there one where who would be the better lawyer? Miles has always put me on the spot. I don't know. I think there'd be pluses and minuses for both of you guys. I could see you both becoming lawyers and then put me to shame maybe. And I'd be like, man, I just wish I was like Miles or Charlie.

I could be a good lawyer. But no, I don't know, man. It'd be difficult for me to, we'd have to figure this out. But I thought the first thing we were going to do is actually have a mock court trial and put you guys against one another and I'd be the judge. We haven't done that. That would be fun.

We should do that. That would honestly be the judge. We haven't done that. We could I would be fine I should now would honestly be really fine Yeah Maybe we could get fictional characters are actually something that you can defend Charlie wants all good. It's all good man, right? Well, he's not fictional. That would be a real character. Yeah, we'll call him up. Maybe maybe I'll do a cameo for it If he's been to start if he's still practicing, you know, I don't know. We have to see where if he might be too busy. All right. Well, you didn't answer my question, but you smartly snuck your way out of it. He ran out the clock. He did. All right. We need some recess for lunch. We'll be back. You could like go defend

the president on CNN. You know, that's exactly that. That's good. All right, man. Well, thanks for calling in guys. If you would like to get a hold of Russell Nicolay, go to Nicolaylaw.com. Correct Russell. That is correct. Or you can give them a call at one eight five five Nicolay silent T at the end. Don't forget Russell. Thanks for calling in today. It's always fun to talk to you. Yeah. Thanks guys. Appreciate it. All righty. We'll see you soon. Oh, we got Caleb from Tanner. Caleb. Is this a Caleb that called him before? Oh, yes sir. This is Caleb. I called in a while back about my supervisor's hot sister.

Yeah, I remember that because we role played, I think, you asking her out and you did a miraculously terrible job from what I recall. I would have to agree with that. It did not go well on that roll call or the role play on that call. Well, since- I have to say it up. Right, it didn't go too well in real life either. Oh, here we go. That's what I wanna hear.

All right, so you tried to approach your supervisor's hot sister. We gave you some advice. How did it go? Oh, not too well. Um, I, that, that episode came out. My supervisor has to say he was not happy. I am still working with him. I didn't get fired, but he was a pretty pit. But we got through that. I said, I promised I would not. He was so upset. I said, I promised I wouldn't hit on her at the wedding. So didn't do that. The bride, the bride did have some very attractive cousins.

I can control myself until it gets to a point of too many brews. And so I was flirting a little bit. Nothing ever came of it. So it was fine. But yeah, he, he ain't too mad. He didn't care about the cousins too much, but yeah, the sisters off the table now. So what was the conversation with your supervisor? Did he listen to the podcast or did someone tell him, how do you find out? Yeah. So he listened to it. I knew it came out that morning. So before work, I actually listened to it ahead and I kind of just said, Hey man, I think you should listen to the podcast this morning. It's a pretty good one. I kind of just watched him in this space was very disappointed

while he was watching it. And then he was just, let's just say there was a few, a few cuss words after that, but we made through it. It just, it just makes the friendship stronger. Is that how he feels? I don't know. I, I was still in the wedding. So I don't think he was, I don't think so. I don't think he's too upset, but yeah. So, but yeah, last time was sorry, my go ahead. Well, Charlie, I don't remember if you know, last time I kind of made fun of you for being single and kind of backfired on me, but I just want to start out the conversation the same way and say that music was asked. I was having to listen to there. Oh, the whole music was asked. Yeah, the one of the stuff with you talking about summers and winters and I just want to take my earphones out and listen to

The nails on home, but it was alright Why are you roasting me? What did I what did I tell you? I thought I gave good advice. Oh, this is payback for us roasting you. Yeah, no, no, I deserve that, but no, I'm nothing with you, Charlie. I did like music. Okay, all right. I feel like you still didn't, which is fine,

but listen, did the sister, did she hear this at all and has she made any contact with you? I don't know if she heard it. I don't know if my supervisor kept it away or showed it to her or not. She has not said anything about it. So I would assume she hasn't. And do you still have the hots for his sister? Has the attraction increased or decreased since this episode came out a while back?

I'm a really good friend, so it has decreased. I stepped away. Okay. Yeah. Well, I don't know if I believe that because it's kind of one of those situations where you can't have it. You want it more. So I, you know, I'll take that with a grain of salt. I'll take him by his word on this one. I'll break with you on that. Okay. All right. So, so what's it? Oh, no, go ahead. I'm curious what we can do for you now. Well, yeah, I was just in the bars for the first time this weekend. And the last few girls I've tried to talk to, or get to know a little bit.

When one wasn't at the bars, one was just hanging out and we went, got some food. And I was like, well, just gotta make sure because these days girls can look a lot older than they are. I was like, you are 18, right? And she was like, yeah, I'm 26. And it's come down to do I start lying about my age? Because every time I say my true age,

they hold demeanor changes and it doesn't go anywhere. Well, I don't know if it was necessarily your age. I think it was the fact you thought she was under 18. Well, I'd rather get shut down than get in legal trouble. I mean, that's a good approach. That is fair. That is fair.

And you are 20. You're, um, oh, go ahead. I mean, that's a good approach. That is fair. That is fair. And you are 20. Oh, go ahead. That was a few months ago. And then this weekend, went to the bars, went to the bar, and met this girl. And I just asked her if she went to the university. And she was like, oh, that's so flattering.

You thought that I was that young. And then it brings me to the point again, like, shit, she's going to ask me how old I am. So and same thing, I told her my true age and things just went downhill from there, but it wasn't before that. You gotta stop asking questions that lead to the age conversation. Yeah. Avoid that away from school. Stay away from high school. Stay away from all of it. Just ask her what do you say? What do you do for a job it. Just ask her what do you say? What

do you do for a job? Just say, so what do you do these days? Yeah, there you go. And if you have a conversation with her long enough, you're going to find out if she's a working professional or if she still has a gym teacher, dude, you know? So just through conversation, this wall naturally reveal itself. Okay. I like that approach. And then if it, if it does come up, do I lie about it or do I, do I, do I go with the truth? I think you go, well, age is just a number. Yeah. Something like that. Exactly. That's what I, that's what I told her. And she said, uh, well eight years, big difference. And I said, it's huge. I understand that like massive, but what if it was, if I said three or four, that's not as big. That's like average

amount. Why don't you just like go for a gal your own age? What's wrong with them? See, I, I, I'm looking more for something serious and it seems like all the girls my age, so in college, they're just wanting to have fun and not really get into a serious relationship. So I'm thinking I got to go a little older. Why do you just have fun? You're in college. That's a good point. I, I was kind of wanting to get married young though. I don't really want to want to go just bounce around. Well, then you need to get into the military. If you want to get married young or be a doctor or be a doctor in the military, no chance of the doctor. How about the military? Maybe.

Okay. Maybe. But doctor. Yeah. I think you got to be smart or something like that. Yeah. I suppose that ship is sailed. Well, listen, and not the smart chip. Just, you know, you got to be in like medical school, I think by the time we're 20 or something. Wait a second. Ship is sailed for him. I got you. I don't think I honestly don't think most women are going to believe that you're really into something that serious at 20 years old. It's a tough age for a guy. Now we'll have to say we've heard your game here on the podcast and I would say if you're trying to hit on a 26 year old, you gotta have good game to even get a date with that person. And so I think you're too worried

about the age and you're not worried about improving your game. All right. So, so in this bar I was in, there's a, there's a basketball court. I was showing her the game on the court, which pry wasn't good. You're right. It's a, there's a basketball court. I was showing her the game on the court, which probably wasn't good. You're right. It's probably me showing off. Doesn't look good. Hey, 26 year old come watch me play this video game. Wait, isn't it hot? No, no. Isn't this sick? Wait, was it, was it, did he say basketball? Like an actual, he said there's a basketball court in the bar, right? Not even a video game. Yeah. There's no court in the bar. I thought it was like a jam. That'd be funny. Hey, you want to come check out my jumper? I can, I can dribble between my legs. You

can, you can hold my drink while I, while I drop a tray bombs. Are you really good at basketball? Like you gotta be so good at basketball to pull that move off. Yeah, no, I was not so drunk. I won't. I'm not good sober. So definitely not drunk. Oh God. Well, have you thought about not getting so hammered before you hit on girls? I mean, I try, but then it just gets out of control. Sometimes my friends just, they're supposed to help me out and slow me down, but they just, I think what it sounds like. You just have a drinking problem. Yeah. Definitely sounds like you

have a drinking problem. If your friends are trying to slow you down and that doesn't work. I, I kind of got to fight back. I'm at work right now and you guys are at the bar at 10 o'clock on a, I don't know if I have to drink. Hey, Hey game recognizes game. My guy. Yes. True. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. But no, I mean, give me some advice for some shooting from some fire, some game at the bar. Well, first I would do it with one to two drinks. That's the sweet spot and stay in. Like there's nothing more attractive for a girl than just a hammered dude, you know, cause all they envision is you pissing in their bed. That's all they envision. Yeah. They look at you and they're like, God, I'm gonna have to clean something up later. This guy, it's not going to be what I want to clean up. This guy is going to open

up my dresser and piss in it. I know he is. It's all they're thinking if you're hammered. So yeah, maybe tone down the drinking a little bit because clearly that's not helping you. There is some guys that they get a little drunk. They get more, you know, they get better, but not you. Yeah. And what's your current approach? What are you saying? What are you doing? Just putting myself in the vicinity of dead cute girl. If I see one that I'm pretty attracted to and then just winger naturally letting the con flow. Oh, naturally like the conversation Paul. Yeah, Charlie. He's like,

I don't know why it's not working. I come into the bar and I just go up to women and I go like this. How old are you? You want to see me shoot basketball? out of my ear. Go. You're kind of hot. Do you know my my supervisor? Okay, my miles has been invading my personal space. Hey, let me ask you this. Do you do you are you a good dancer? Do you do you are you a good dancer? Freestyle like swing dancing just freestyle just like the any bar you go into there's a dance floor Can you confidently walk out on the dance floor and dance? I?

Can confidently walk out there? I wouldn't say the dancing part would come so here's what what I here's here's the recommendation. I think every day for now for the next three weeks go on YouTube and learn how to dance. That's step one. Step two is go on YouTube and find a good karaoke song. One that a lot of people know that you can also sing. Get good at that, two. And three is just start, like do an improv class or something. You do those three things, I betcha, you're gonna find a girl. Improv's probably the best one,

teaches you how to think on your feet, be funny. I think if you know how to dance though and you can hang there, like even if you can't talk, you can at least go dance good with someone. Yeah. And then that's a, that's a conversation opener. I don't know, Charlie. I think he's, I don't want to call you a lost cause, but I think this is called swimming upstream. He's 20 years old. No, I mean in terms of his game, not his dating. Oh, he's for sure swimming upstream. That's why I'm giving them actual advice. So here we got extreme measures. What you're going to want you to do is you're going

to want to tell your buddies that you're going to pay for their drinks for the night. And what you're going to have them do is dress up in a black tie suit with an earpiece. And to you and your two buddies are going to walk into the bar. They're going to be in front of you. And that's going to get the attention of every woman in the bar. Because if I know anything about human nature, as soon as someone appears that they're a big deal, Charlie, all of a sudden they become a little bit more attractive. And then you don't even have to have any game at all. They're going to come to you. I hate to say it miles, but you're right.

It might actually work. You know, I, I kind of actually just want to try that for shit and giggle. See if it'll actually work. There's your homework. Yeah. You go try that and let us know if that doesn't work. You can do the actual advice that I gave you that somebody out there is going to take and thank me for in a letter. But I think, I think miles advice. I'm just more, can you have someone film it too? So we can watch it go down, please. For sure. For sure. I'm not, I'm not going to just do that for no, just the memory. You gotta have some documents.

And when they ask you, cause then they're going to ask you what you do. You just tell them that you're in finance and then they're not going to ask you any follow up questions. Yeah. Finance or entrepreneur? Yeah. Entrepreneur gets a bad rap though. It means you're unemployed. So I would just stick with finance. We touched a bullet there. Yeah. Just say hedge funds. Yeah. Hedge funds, you know, and if they ask follow up questions, just say I don't want to bore you with that I don't want bore you with that, but I got a great set of shears All right. Well and if you film it You know you send that video to us because that will be an intro on one of our next episodes We'll just we'll kind of be the announcers for you your bar escapades

That probably might get weird. I'll probably do that for sure. I don't think, yeah, no, nobody's going to try to press me because of that. Like try to fight or like some dude just get the, maybe, maybe a short dude, maybe a little short man syndrome, trying to show off to the girls. Like, Hey, there's the, the rich guy in the bar. I think he's going to try to fight me just because of that. You have security. What I don't know. What's, what are you worried about? Pick your strong friends by the way. They are actual security for them. We didn't say, you know, yeah, we didn't tell you to bring your short King friend in a suit. Yeah. Get the tall. A couple guys in the football team. All right. Yeah. I'll bring that. We're not

getting back into the high school football stuff. I'm done with that. I'm moving on from the path. Okay. Let's go closing the year. I'll get some of my big friends. All right. Well, we appreciate you calling in again today, man. Thanks for the update and good luck at the bar. Yeah. Thanks man. Thanks guys. You guys have a good one. I have a good one buddy. Yeah. You know, you've seen the guy on tick-tock that's got the, he's got, he's caked up. What's that guy's name? The guy with the big ass, Frankie LaPena. Yeah. Yeah. You see he walks around with the entourage. Everyone's like, I got to talk to that guy.

Dude, that doesn't need an entourage. He's got like the biggest ass in the world. Is that thing real? I don't think so. No, it's not. No. Is it an insert or? Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Well, CBA could be anything. I T B sounds like an STD. It does. I T B it is in the books folks. Thanks for listening to another episode of the bellied up podcast. Until next time tip your bartender. See you guys.