Bellied Up - Finding Grandpa’s Search History Was a Mistake #198

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

We’re at Lyon’s Pub in Minneapolis, MN, chatting about how men express love and sharing some tips for the wives out there. Later, Joey calls in with a disturbing discovery he made; he’s having a tough time processing it, so we help him talk through it. Finally, we listen to a voicemail from a caller who is struggling with his hometown.Get $10 Off at BRUNT with code belliedup at https:// www.bruntworkwear.com/belliedup #Bruntpod #adnote: Since bad weather was on the way, we had to squeeze five episodes into two days. Sorry for the limited number of calls. we'll be recording again in early May, so be sure to leave us a voicemail 218-303-5095

Hey, ladies and gentlemen, we're back, baby. Bellied up podcast, bellied up here over at Lions Pub and Minneapolis, Minnesota. I have gotten, I've had a few late nights at this bar, actually. This pub. Really? I remember one time I was going to a Vikings game and I stopped in here. Shut it down. Did you?

We shut it down. It was like me and my family, Ann was with. And I remember going to the. the game so hungover and we we unfortunately our seats were on the side that face the sun oh no and so i got a sweatshirt on and the sun's just beaten down and i'm hung over and i'm just sweating i didn't bring any sunglasses i wish you had sunglasses in us bank stadium and anne missed like the whole first half because she was just sitting out in the concourse at a table with her head in her hands To be honest with you, I'm right out there with her in this story.

I could not. That sounds terrible. It was terrible, but we had a great time that night. And so, guys, if you want a good time, you got to get to Lions Pub. Did it was your, we're, uh, it's just something about like an Irish pub, the feel. Yeah. The bar. There's just, there's something about it that just gets me going.

I mean, it, it really get where you order in Guinnesses and and Jamos and car bombs, where you're going full like irish bar with it or were you doing your same bush light and just putting them to the teeth you know i don't know okay was uh bud and mary jane i think at that point i had moved on from beer okay i think what my problem was yeah i think i've seen you put down enough beers to know that's going to take a little bit more than that to break the giant you know i've seen you put down beers like as nothing hey bud and mary jane were they were there with you They were? Were they also hungover?

I'm sure. But they just have been doing it for so long. It's like you and I are in the bad stage of life where we're still getting used to not being able to handle a hangover. Right. Which is new to us. Right. But then you, from what I found is it's kind of like a bell curve. Mm.

Of hungoveredness for people. When you're young, you don't get hungover at all. And then you reach about 30 years old and the starts going up, up, up, up. up up, then I'm guessing around 50, you start going back down the bell curve. And my parents, they just drink and just have no consequences. It's probably, yeah, it's probably that's probably a little bit of retirement or at least dialing it back at work, dialing up the fun time with friends. And you just get acquainted.

You know, we're in the phase of life where we're getting married, having kids. Yeah. Getting divorced, not having. But either way, you know. way you've got more responsibility now than he did earlier and then your kids go off to college and you suddenly have no responsibility again right and then it's back at it that makes sense that makes sense um well that's cool well i'm glad it's it's a wonderful bar miles and it's great to be here with you really is pal as a double double leg slap but i'm touching my leg right now it's just just how you know

i love you but i don't want to say it so i just give you a nice little really firm double tag I was going to tell you that I love you. I'd probably give you one of these. One of those. Oh, yeah. I like a little horse play, huh? I like that little massage that doesn't feel good at all. A little Charlie horse.

Yeah. All right. All right. Yeah. Oh, almost got you there. Sack tap. Hey, hey. All right.

Let's dial it back. Let's dial it back. That's how you know. You know, we're trying to love each other. That's how you know. We're not going to say miles. I love you. Uh-uh.

No, do not have the emotional intimacy or maturity for that and also would if Jared hears me. I mean, but that's a fella thing.

That is true. That is very true that we are never going to say, I'm never going to look Jared in the eye and go, Jared, I just, I fucking love you, man.

Well, doing that. You might, but you won't remember you did that. Yeah, or it would actually be like, they'd be like,

oh, Jared, I love you, man. You know, something like that. But it's like got a mocking tone. Yes. But I'm never just going to be like, Jared, I love you. Then we both looked down immediately.

It's just weird. You know, I do love you guys. Right. But I just not going to say that. Well, and you say it at the end of the episode sometimes, love you guys. But that's where it's like,

I love you guys. That's like I love the, that's too much commitment. Yeah, it's true. It's love you guys. And it's also saying like, yes,

everyone should love everyone that's like in the Bible. So like, I'm just fine. commandment. But to make that love specific to someone, although I bet you probably said I love you to somebody in this bar. For us to at the end of the episode, I'd be like, all right, Jeremy

from Wisconsin, I love you. I'm getting uncomfortable right now. It's weird. Getting uncomfortable. And guys just have a tough time with I love you. So what are the ways guys show that they love someone? What are the

what are the ways that guys show that they love other guys? Physical, physical rough housing we found. Yeah, when it works a lot. When a guy loves you, he more so shows you. He doesn't tell you. It's a show and tell, a show no tell situation.

Yeah. Looking no touchy, you know. Well, looking no talking. Yeah, it's a little, yeah. Touching, touching, no talking. I mean, it is much like a strip club. No talking and no touching. Yeah.

Well, actually, there is touching. There is touching, but it's more of like a gym. You know, more we're sparring. Like, hey, hey, hey, hey. It's not like a strip club at all, actually. No, yeah. You get kicked out for that kind of love. Yeah, 100%.

That was a mistake. Not that I would know. But yeah, so, you know, it's physical rough housing. Physical rough housing. I think just, but there also can be the exact opposite. You know, you love a guy when you can just love a buddy when you just sit in the same room with them. And not say or. Just nothing.

There's nothing. If you can have a silent car ride with someone for three hours, that's how you know a relationship's going to work if not. You always get to that point in a relationship where it's the first time no one's saying anything. And if you're okay in that moment, relationship might have some legs. And the same with guys. The longer car ride you can go without talking, the better friends you are. Oh, my God.

The more you love them. Yeah, the last thing you want to do is just carry on a pointless conversation for hours, you know, and talk about your feelings. But if you need to, it's there. I think also another way that guys show that they love their buddy is they'll, like, help you build a deck. Acts of service is the most critical way guys show they love for each other. What did you say build a deck? Yeah.

You know, Jared's like, yeah, my truck, my car is not starting. It's like, you don't even understand. I have to help. You help try and diagnose the problem. Yeah. You know? Okay. So does it make a noise when he turn it over or do you think it's maybe a battery issue?

maybe a starter issue. If you're willing to walk around that car with your hands in or around your pants and just do one of these, that's how you're saying, I love you. And the thing is, like, you don't know anything about cars. You're still trying to help. Yeah, you're like, you know, brush off those connections on the battery. Those look like they've been a little corroded. You know, like, that's all you got.

Noah had a flat or a tire that was low the other day. And so that I started as was like, so you think it's maybe just because it's been cold out. and maybe they just lost a little pressure. You know, you think you ran over something? Is there a scenario where you would have ran over something sharp or just did you do the, let's get a spray bottle. Let's start spray bottle in this. See if it's bubbling out.

See if it's bubbling up. If it's a, you know, cold, hot issue or maybe there is a hole in it. Mm-hmm. You know? Uh-huh.

Hey, does anyone in the office have an air compressor at their house and we just bring it here and help them out with this, you know? Fill it up. Yeah. Yeah. And,

you know, I think so. Acts of Service is a wonderful one and also. Or just acts of trying to solve a problem. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like there's the acts of service and then there's the acts before the acts of service. Correct. But sometimes like I show that I love my wife even by trying to help her solve her problems.

And that's where you get into think. Dude, me too. Yeah. We're supposed to just listen. We're supposed to just listen. but the way we love is by solving problems. Oh my God. You know?

Yeah. And it's a nice reason why it's so fun to do that with another guy because like he also wants to solve the problem. Right. Right. Yeah. I mean, we just, we just like if here's another way that you can like really show a guy you love him is just give him a moment to mansplain something.

You already know how to do. But you just want him to like, you know, I mean, this would be a bad example because everyone knows how but hey miles uh i don't know how to change my tire uh what what should i do you know i call you on the phone and say that how horned up are you getting right now i'm pretty horned out you know you're excited make sure when you when you tighten those suckers out don't go in a circle you want to go crisp cross applesau star pattern yeah and then and then now you're not putting that on the front are you yeah and if you are you got to drive extra safe you know and after about 50 miles of driving make sure they're still tight uh huh

But really, you should just go straight and get it replaced, okay? They're not meant for long distance travel. Don't go pushing it. You know, I'm thinking we're putting a spare on that, not a full size. I think we're putting on different tires at that moment. But yeah, I mean, I think there's also something that the guys, you know, your buddy loves you. When you're having a crash out, when you're losing your mind. And he's just sitting there being like, let it out.

Yes, yes. If you're telling your buddy to let it out, you know you really love them. And you don't even need to say let it out because then he knows you're doing that. Just say, oh, are you kidding me? No way, dude. Or if you're in a public space and he's having a crash out, you're saying it to other people, like, he's just going to let up. He just needs to get this out.

Yeah, yeah, right. You know? Yeah, you don't mind it. He's fine. He's going to just let this out. It'll be good. Yeah, he just lost a finger. Don't worry about it.

He's good. Yeah, it's almost crowd control. Right. Right. Give him some space. you know he just lost a finger so he's going to say some wild shit like your ears yeah exactly um but no i think that's right it's like a mother holding their baby while they cry you're not trying to get him to stop crying you're just rocking them you're just there for him you're rocking them with yeah tell

me you're rocking them with space yeah and you say that sucks and then when he stops going just i'd be so pissed i know i'm fucking furious man you crash out yeah yeah yeah or or maybe even just how join in on freaking out too. Yeah, joining in. Yes, anding is freak out. Now that could, that can escalate and I wouldn't recommend doing it while you're both drinking, but invites to sports games. And you have a Roy from the office situation where he loses all jet ski money.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You don't want that. No, you don't. Invites, invites to sports games and invites to the bar or invites to if you have a plus one from your corporate job. and your buddy doesn't work in a corporate world. But there's free food.

There's free food. My buddy just invited me to something. And you got to go into one of the sweets, you know? Oh my God. Dude, those sweets, yeah. There's a reason why they call them sweets. Stock beer, everything. All the food, all the food you can imagine.

And some of them, they get like, this one had like little lobster tails in it. I was like, are you, are you, have you ever been to a sweet with a lobster tail? Are you dry shaving? Are you dry? Are you dry humping me right now? What's going on, dude? Come on. Now, the lobster was a little robbery, but still, we're talking lobsters in Milwaukee.

I mean, what do you expect from sweet lobster? I mean, right. Yes, they did just bring it in from Red Lobster, but that's fine. Jenny Biskies or no? Oh, there wasn't any biscuit. That would have been the giveaway that these are Red Lobster Lobsters. They were trying to make it a high caliber fair, but I think Red Lobster is pretty freaking and high caliber if you ask me.

People talk some shit about it and that's unfortunate. No, there's a lot of ways. The invites, oh, when they're coming over, buddy of mine did this not too long ago. I was working on, well, I don't really want to say my snowmobile again, but I was. And he didn't know what to do and I didn't know what to do. But we were just sitting there looking around it, just banging shit, trying things out. We got nothing done.

In fact, I think I broke it worse. But it was nice just to drink beers in the garage. Just activity. Just the presence. Yeah. Yeah. Any good project that you can feel accomplished after, another buddy of mine came over to help me replace this old dock at the lake thing.

You know, you've been obviously replacing those dock boards. And you just easy screw and move on. I think also you know that your buddy loves you. if he calls you and admits that you know more than him and ask for help. Yes. Like I got a buddy who's, he's going with cars and I am not. So I called him up and say,

hey, I'm going to bring my truck over before I like go. Connor. Yeah, before I go, you know, go have to pay someone to fix this. Let's see if we can figure it out.

Oh, you know. And I imagine he was just like, oh, he loves me so much. Do you come over with a couple toolboxes? No, I went to his house.

Oh, I was able to still drive the truck. yeah, I basically brought it to his shop. We took a look at it, took the door panel off. Ah, that's fun. You know, Googling shit, YouTube in it. He's got one of those things that you plug in to, like, diagnose it. Couldn't get it to work, but it didn't matter.

No, no, that's cool. I've never plugged anything into a car. No. Like, he had a USB drive trying to figure out the ship. Yeah, I don't know. That's out of my wheelhouse. You know, at the end of the day, we didn't know what was wrong with it. So I did have to take it in.

Yeah. But it was a good little. afternoon. It's a good moment. And you and you got to. And I know what the inside of my door panel looks like now too. Pretty cool. Like imagine I was this close to almost dying in my life without knowing what the inside of a Ford F150 lariat door panel looks like. Wow. Yeah. Imagine dying with that guilt of not knowing. I, it's getting me kind of curious about what the inside of my door panel looks like. Yeah. You know? Um, we didn't bring. any of the plastic clips either. That was a big deal.

Gotta be careful with those. Yeah. I feel like anything involving rivets is usually good. You know, there's some just really says fine about drilling out rivets and putting new rivets in. And so actually, this is a good point. Charlie. Yeah. You know?

Sexual too, rivets kind of. Well, so. In a safe way. You know, to any of the gal listeners, if you got a husband or something, take, if you want to make. him feel love. You know, we know that we got to listen to the ladies. We got to listen to them. Don't try and solve their problems. You know, we know that acts of service are important, you know, clean the kitchen without him. Anyone that need to be asked. All those things.

If he's having trouble with something in the garage, start trying to help him solve the problem. Start asking him questions. I don't know. Why are you left? laughing about. What's wrong with that? No, I'm thinking of certain situations where that can't go wrong. But yeah, I said that to Randah, well, she might have said that to me. She said, you know what you love? You just love to mansplain things. So I'm just going to ask you questions and just let you go. You're laughing at me. I know. I was thinking about a different scenario, but now I'm backing you up. Yeah, now you don't want to be like asking really obvious questions that are condescending.

you know no no you don't want to be you don't want to be like so like how did you break it again you don't want to ask that you know why don't you just fix it you don't want to ask those do we even have the money for this oh so what do you actually know what you're doing yeah you want to set your guy up for situations where he can mansplain to you and if you know he's doing that just sitting it double compliment question you look so hot doing that I'm so turned on If my wife was doing that, I, you know, that's because you know she's taking up. I want that to be the treat at the end of me fixing it. I want her to be at the end, be like, that was actually pretty hot that you were able to fix the water here. See, that's what I'm saying. Okay. So someone like it. Because that's what we want. We don't want, you know, we want, that's the carrot dangling at the end.

Oh, yeah, that's true. Like I, I fixed her water heater by myself. What'd you do? I went upstairs looking for a compliment of like, wow, you're so. handy. You're so sexy fixing the water here. I can get any of that. Well, um, and that's what I was looking for. But what was wrong with your water? So then I went to work and I told Ryan about it. And then he was like, wow, you're so handy. He's like, you're so sexy doing it. I bet. God, I bet it was hot. That's good. And I was able to get that from my buddies. That's great. Yeah, what was wrong with that water here? There was, uh, I remember exactly what it's called, but there's a tube with a like pressure valve deal. Yeah. And it was just dirty. Okay. So if I had to call the guy, he would have popped the, the, the tube off, cleaned it, put it back on it and worked great. Yeah. But I did have to go deep dive into the internet to find someone with the exact water heater with the exact same issue. But there was a video that someone was explaining how to fix it. Dude, that's great. Actually, I got an issue with my water heater right now. And maybe like when I get back home, can't give you a call? And you help walk me through that.

Absolutely. Because, I mean, when it comes to out water here, I think you might know a little bit more than me. I would love to help you out. Thanks, man. That's cool, dude. I love you. Wait, what?

You just start making out. Yeah. How many videos are we going to end with that? I think the last six trips we've met up to do this together. We've done at least one pretend to make out. We really have to be careful with what our recurring bits are on this. Before you know, we're going to have a Dutch rudder recurring bit. Double Dutch rudder.

Double DR DR. Yeah, people have made the bingo cards, you know? That's going to, we were very careful. It's going to end up on the bingo card. It's going to be on the bingo card. Well, Chuck. Miles, I'm excited to take a little caller or two with you. Let's do it.

I'm excited to be here with you, Miles. So yes, Miles, Wisconsin's real fifth season. is road construction. Cones are everywhere. The orange flowers are bloom and the lanes disappearing signs that say one thing and mean another. You're driving like, am I in the right lane here? Nobody knows. No, you're in the left lane. Charlie. Ah, shit. Someone slams on the break. Someone else merges without looking. Boom. Smash, pow. Now it's a crash dash because the rogue layout changed overnight. What a fright. And don't even get me started on the unambor. uneven pavement.

Step out of your car. Catch an edge and you didn't see you. Now your knees talk into you for the next month. I think of my rain. If construction season turns into a real injury or accident, though you guys just got to call Nicolay 1-8555. Nickelie. Charlie.

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That's insane. So I basically only need to buy one pair for the rest of my life. Well, you should buy two pairs. You get 40% off. Oh, that's true. Polarize. Yeah, because I've lost more than one pair

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What? Are you going to go over to Hot Topic and get some tight jeans after this, Tom? Let me feel your hands. Oh, they feel like a little floppy walleye there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I know. I got to get them roughed up here. I got to start wearing them in the garage.

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talking to you about this, Charlie. Yeah. You need to we need to get you a pair of their pants. They are, you were going to love them because you can wear them working at your cabin. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. Did you get a pair of the pants? I didn't get a pair of pants yet. I just got them. Well, so they're probably in my house. They probably have your house. You've been home yet. So tell me

about them. So they're, they're, they're, they fit really well. But the ones that we got, that we got now, they're like water resistant. They got like a water resistancey material. Yeah. Plus, they also will be great for walking to the woods, you know?

Stuff isn't going to stick to them as much. And you can go hiking at your cabin. You can be working at them. If you get them wet, being down by the lake, you're not even worried about it. It's what it is. It's going to lick right off.

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just bellied up oh good to talk to you guys so what do you got going on today joey where are you you working you're hanging out what's going on Yeah, I'm at work, hauling some stone. You're hauling stone. What kind of stone are we hauling, Joey? Some inch and a quarter roadrock. Oh, nice. Oh, okay.

Okay, where's that going? We're doing like a parking lot addition, if you want to call it that. Sure. In Whitewater, Wisconsin. Oh, Whitewater. There you go. Yeah. Nice.

You making it good? I bet there's some. 13 year olds around there with some K2 roller blades that are just waiting for you guys to be done just start ripping on that new black top you got going there yeah yeah thank you miles that laughs tells me you love me so is whitewater like notoriously like uh like they got money in white water because k2 roller blades are expensive uh k2 roller blades were expensive not anymore I don't think they are anymore. It's the only roller blade brand other than roller blades, and I wanted to make it more specific.

What other, I didn't rollerblade much. What kind did you have? I don't know. I know K2. K2s, yeah, or there's what? Anyone else? You used to rollerblade to parties, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, those were not K2s. Okay, I got you. Those were rollerblades. Yeah, and they did not fit. so I have a toe that curls in this way, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

You used to rollerblade to parties? Well, this was kind of a thing. Yeah, when I was drinking at an age when I shouldn't. I look for alternative means. One meme was my bicycle. That was primary. But on occasion, I would borrow. And at one point, they were my rollerblades.

but then I think I gave them to my brother, but either way, they didn't fit. And so you know the thing when you don't cut your toenails all the way and kind of digs into you a bit, you know? So, yeah, you search for alternative means to rollerblade the different parties. My sister told you that. I didn't answer my question. What was the question? Why you just walk? Well, because it was a bit, first of all, it's like, what did you do with your rollerblades when you got to the party?

Oh, I had a backpack with crocs. I had some of the first crocs in Wisconsin because I worked at the bike shop. you know. That still doesn't answer that. Yeah, no, I have a backpack with crotch. So I would take my rollerblades off. So you're walking around the party with crocs and socks on? No socks.

In like, you're rollerblading without socks. I was raw dog in it in the roller blades. Sorry, Joey. I needed to figure out what was going on there. So, yeah, you're building parking lots then. He hung up.

I lost you for a second. What was that? Probably for the best. Yeah. So what's on your mind today? What do you want to talk about? I just, my grandpa's been doing some,

maybe some inappropriate things on his phone, and I need to get it off my chest. Oh, boy. Oh, no, dude. You better get into this before my mind starts running a while of what your grandpa's doing on his phone. Off your chest, but who, never mind. Really, Chuck.

Never mind. So, what's going on on your grandpa's phone? How do you know? So basically, I was setting up an Amazon Alexa that my parents got him for Christmas. And he's got a super old phone. He doesn't know how to use it at all. I don't even know what brand it is.

It's not Samsung or Apple. I don't even know where he found this thing. And I typed in, he's got one of those keyboards where you've got to click down the number and then go to whatever letter you want to use. So it's taken me forever to type out www. www. Amazon Alexa setup.com.

Well, I got to www. dot and the things that showed off in the recently searched should never be seen by a grandson's eyes. Oh, no. Can you give us anything? What do they rhyme with? maybe corn corn yeah corn stub he's going to www.w.com

yeah okay what um what did it did it get any more specific than that no once I saw the saw the basic search I kind of looked away as fast as I could I don't want to know what my grandpa's into that's probably probably a smart move Probably saved yourself a lot right there. Did you clear his history for him? No, I just gave it back and I let my brother take care of it. I said, I don't know. I can't figure it out here.

You do it. And then you went in the bathroom and sat on the toilet and just thought about life. No. Really, Jared. Really, Jared. Do you see what Jared did? He made a wanking motion. You thought that's where I was going.

On his grandfather's throne. own charred. I meant he was contemplating life. Is your grandpa married? Oh. Okay. Well, that makes the situation a lot better. You know, I mean, grandpa's

got needs too. I didn't even know he knew that stuff existed. He's like 83 years old. Yeah, but he's not dead. He's not dead. And I mean, he's probably thinking that we got it.

If you wanted to get that material back in the day, you had to one pay for it. And two, you know, you just imagine being like, hey, you now get to access to every portal magazine that's ever existed. Your grandpa wouldn't, you wouldn't do anything for a week. You just sit in the archives all day. and once he got that smartphone once he got the smartphone he was like holy shit so

you didn't get this set up you sent your brother in and now you're just dealing with the trauma that's where we're at I think what we're witnessing here Charlie is a loss of innocence

it is it's a classic loss of innocence and it's first of all just how are you feeling about this I don't know I don't know if I should bring it up to my grandpa or not

or talk to him about it oh yeah no you should hang on hang on Miles before you jump yeah pretend we're your grandpa let's let's play this one out so we're a joint together

we're one brain here Chuck yeah I'll be I'll be well I'll be I'll be the you want me a big grandpa or one brain You be, you be grandpa. I'll be your, I'll be your brother and you be you. And we're going to confront your grandpa about it. All right. Joey, what's going on?

Grandpa, me and Josh saw some stuff on your phone and we're kind of wondering what it is and what you're up to when we're not our own. Well, I mean, I'm getting them wall eyes. 15, 16, them are in the slot, you know. Gramps. Huh. we're not talking about walleye perch not talking about perch either

boogill not talking about bluegill either crappy joey will you help me out here this is no sort of fish grandpa oh my my auger put the auger in the ice hole

yeah we're maybe talking more about tuna here tuna tuna i am ben deep sea fishing well i can search history says different search history Joey will you help me out here? Is I looking up tuna? Huh. I was looking up erratica.

Is that what you're talking about? No, we caught you looking out of porn on your phone. Oh yeah. Absolutely. You guys don't? You got to try it. Oh my gosh. I tell you, can you believe any, when I was growing up, if you had a fetish, you kept

that to yourself. These days, entire sections. And like 20,000 tabs of it. I mean, it's ridiculous. I've been mean to talk. to you fellas about that. You know, this is the rod of modern society. I was just looking at up. Please don't use the word rod in this, in this. Rot. Oh, R-O-T. They said

Rod. Yeah, no, not Rod. Although there is this fella, his name's Rod, and I didn't know you could grow him that big, but I mean, that fellow was corn fed. Let me tell you. So, yeah, no, on occasion. Joey, I told you, we shouldn't confront it. Joey, I told you, we shouldn't confront him, man. This is a bad idea. Yeah, I don't know about this anymore.

You don't know about what? So, oh, okay. Well, Joey, I'm sorry. I didn't, I'm sorry. And I'm so old. I forgot your brother's name. Josh. Josh. Joey and Josh, I didn't realize I thought this is what all the kids were doing. And I thought it was appropriate. But you're right. It's, it's not appropriate. And I think we should all do a pact. and what's all let's all get off. Get off in what way. Get off what?

Get off the pornographic sites. Are you guys? What did you think I meant? I thought you were getting off in another way. Oh, is that what you call a Hummer these days? Listen, what I'm telling you is we got to all make a pack that we are not doing that. You're saying that this is bad, bad for society.

and your cell phone you're going to have so many viruses on that thing well it's better than a real virus am i right i mean think of my options i Lucille she's uh she's stacked up she met with frank and you know frank i mean fucking frank this guy oh my gosh he's got he's got he went down to the villages in florida he came back i'm surprised that guy's still alive he almost went the way of al capone syphilis. Unreal. Take your vitamins, you dumbass.

So I figure this was just the safest way. Because, you know, I tell you, folks my age these days, they don't wrap it up, Joey. And I want to make sure you guys are using protection for your erection. I'm waiting. Joe?

We promise. We promise. No. No, you're not using protection? No, we are. Okay. Josh. You wrapping up that salami kiddle?

Yeah, I'll wear a helmet. I'll wear a helmet from now on. Okay, good. So, Joey, have you ever ventured on to any of these sites? No, I never. Joey. Joey. Maybe.

I have. Are you still doing it? I am. Well, Joey, if you think that this is a problem for Gramps here, I think, grams i think he's lying to us i think we all hey it's lent right now not when this episode comes oh well lent's over how about we pretend it's glent and we all give it up today for 40 days and see if we still need it after that how's that sound i'll i'll take that sounds like a plan okay and if anyone if anyone breaks the pact you got a call while you're doing it all right um

Gramps. What? I just, it's just burned in my head. You said the word fetishes. I just didn't know you. Is it fetish? I didn't know. I just didn't know you even knew what that was. And it's concerning to me that maybe you, you're dabbling in that. Fetishes? How old are you? Huh? Joey, how old? Am I again? I don't know. 22 maybe. Joey, you should know how old your brother is? No, you just turned 22. 22 on Monday. Yeah. I'm trying to find love in all the wrong places.

Maybe what you can do is set Gramps up with a nice gal, huh? I don't know any nice gals that are that old. Well, I didn't say they need to be old. Give me 75 plus. I don't even know any nice gals that are 75 plus. Well, I'm hanging around the libraries and, you know, I'm not liking what I'm seeing. You're doing that at the library? No, I'm going there to check out the Sports Illustrated.

Grandpa, I think you might have a real problem here. Oh, I have a real problem. Okay. All right. Fine. Fine. I think we need to take your phone privilege as away. You want to take my phone?

I'm sorry, once again, you're doing what you're yelling at me for. Okay, so what's your point here? Yeah, but I'm young. You're old. Oh, so now this is age. okay well fella you know what i'll tell you this you come down to florida with me i'll show you some stuff you never even seen yeah joy i forget how old are you 19 19 right so you're not married yet but here's here's a deal when some folks get married okay they get they drive a car

and they go to a party and they put the keys to that car in a bull and then they start all hot tubbing together and before you know it you're stacked to the gills with STDs and the villages oh my gosh it's like going to the Amazon rainforest for you there's a snake in every bush

you know there's a poisonous spider lingering lingering from every branch you get bumps and and scrapes especially on your back. And so I figured for the sake of my house, I would just do it virtually.

And if you got a problem, my health, well, fine. Then I'll just keep fishing more. Okay? That's what we'll do. We're doing a pact. If you think this is the rot of humanity, I appreciate your kids bringing it up. We're all done.

We're done with this stuff. Okay. So, Joey, how did that go for you? I think. Is that what you? had mine. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that's how it would go.

I don't really know, though. Kind of scared. Yeah, I think you don't say a fucking word. Yeah, I, yeah. I mean, it's been almost, it's been over a year without saying a word. I think it'd be interesting that way. If he's calling in right now. It's still eating at him a year.

I mean, yeah, this is serious, Joey. This is, you know what? Here, if it makes you. Did you think that? your grandpa was you know St. Francis of a sissy? I don't know. This runs through my mind a lot. Whether to talk to him or not.

Joey. I just, Joey, he's a man. Now, who doesn't have a companion. Yeah, Joey, we'll take the argument that you think porn is bad and that he shouldn't be doing it. but then I don't think you should be doing it, you know? All right.

I'll quit and sold his grandpa then. Okay. And then bring it up to him. Have that conversation. I think that, hey, I walked in on my grandpa, Bob, and he was on the computer, and he was watching how to tie extension cords using the knot method. So I know what it's like. He looked in Barry's like, you know, I've been doing extension cords for a long time.

But this fellow, he's teaching. me I do this not method and here let me show you something else I found on YouTube look at that I've been watching this bald eagle nest it's live every day she just kicked the young out of the nest so I don't have much to relate it to but but I will say Joey that um I think a nice you know it can it can't go wrong having this conversation with your grandpa but you're going to have to be willing to admit that he is a sexual being. No, let's have him do it right now. Joey, I want you to admit that your grandpa is a sexual being.

Can you say that for us? Joey? My grandfather is a sexual being. God, what a weird thing to say, Joey. Joey, get your perverted ass out of this house right now, all right? No, listen, I think it could be a great bonding moment for your grandfather and you. or the worst memory of your life, even worse than you finding it. Also, Joey, listen, how many grandkids does your grandpa have?

And how old are they? A lot. They're all older than me. I'm one of the youngest. There's probably like 15 of us and one great grandchild. How old's a great grandchild? Two, maybe three. Okay.

How old is the one younger than you? Any of your cousins? No. So maybe do that. And you may find that the older ones be like, oh yeah, Grandpa's a total, he's a total hornball.

Grandpa's been doing that for years. Yeah, I mean, you might. At least you didn't walk in on I'm doing that. That's probably what's going to happen. I mean, or there's one of the grandkids that just,

you know, was over at grandpa's and bored and grandpa was in bed and, you know, his phone was broken. I don't know. Phone sitting in rice, you know. It could have been someone else, dude, because he might have just lost his phone

and then someone at the bar started, you know. Yeah, you think that that's... I think it's possible. Is his phone locked? Because the first thing that someone does when they pick up a phone that is someone else is to start watching porn on it. But if you think about it, like some, some little... Oh, there's someone lost their phone at the bar. I'll be right back.

I mean, what? That's who you think it is? Oh, it's not possible. possible, Miles? It's not possible. I'm just giving them other possibilities. I honestly, I don't even know if this was your grandpa. I don't know. Maybe, I guess. Yeah, we don't know. So just, yeah, I think you just got to bury it mentally. Barrier deep inside and never bring it back up again. Pretty much, man. I mean, and take it as a life lesson that the world isn't as it seems, you know?

Yeah, I mean, it wasn't, it was just standard stuff. you're you really i mean he's only 19 chuck yeah the world's about to disappoint you so much more my god innocence you're about there's going to be about 10 more things like this that are going to happen so this is just step one yeah just here's what you're going to do here are you going to offload that uh that rock here soon uh soon all right i want you to pick up a rock before you leave and I want you to just drop it and I want you to go that's my memory of finding Grandpa's

nudie stash on his phone and once they bury it with that cement or that blacktop or whatever they're doing over there you just let it go and every now and again you revisit that parking lot you go roller blade on that parking lot put your case

two's on. Go to play it again sports. Get some K2s from the 90s back when they were made in the USA and the spendy ones. And you can and feel that, feel that emotion.

But then once you step off the black top, once you roll off the black top, leave it behind. You just leave it behind. So you're not avoiding. You're just compartmentalizing. You compartmentalize. You compartmentalize and yeah, you go there, you go to Whitewater and you just feel it.

everything, all the pain and skate it away. Yeah. Put on some Dave Matthews band. Yeah. Dude, get a hockey stick. Crash into me. And you just be, you could be sobbing,

just doing pirouettes. Wait for a sunset. Get a, get a hockey go out there. Gordon Bombay it out there in that parking lot. Yeah, get a hockey stick. Yeah.

And that's it. When you're off, when you're off the black top, hey. Out of sight, out of mind. Yeah. So what do you think then?

You think that should bring it up for this funeral? No. No. No. Well, maybe. I don't know. Do you have a good joke about it?

Depends on the joke. I don't know. That's kind of your guys' job. Well, you're kind of saying, rest in peace, grandpa, he was a sexual being in 20, 5.6. What year are we in?

26. That's not a joke at all. That's just a statement. That's what I'm saying. What, like, what I think most people may not be super surprised. I mean, you, you look, I brought up the villages thing because that was a news story, man. They talked about STDs exploding in this older generation. I forgot you went down that hole.

I didn't know where you were going with that. Oh, you didn't know where I was going. Yeah. Ever since boner pills, man, it's been a new age. Surgeons. And also, there is some benefit physically for releasing, I think, for the prostate. So maybe his doctor recommended. it to keep his prostate healthy. Maybe this is a medical. Maybe this is medical. Right. Like if your grandpa

was to donate sperm, he would go to a little donation thing and they would give him options of pornography. And so that's a medical diagnose or a prescription. And I'm not defending it here, but I'm just saying, we don't know your grandpa's guilty and you're hung up on this guilt thing. And I think you've got to know that your grandpa, he is a flower. And hours, boom, my man. And the more that you sit and stew about it, it's just more time passes, which just means the more porn your grandpa's looking at. And so once you can get that out of your mind, the train's not stopping. It's on the tracks. Right. Right. And it's just you got to watch it go past you. Just watch it go past. I think meditation is what you need. And the best way to meditate

is just Gordon Bombay it every Friday night. Go play a little hockey and whitewater. Well, Joey's never calling back in, Miles. Yeah, I think I'm permanently disturbed. Well, did we do worse? Like, did we make this better or worse, Joey? No, you might have made it worse. Okay, but how? Would you want, okay, Joey, let's roll play again.

What are you just going to avoid the truth your whole life or what? At some point, you've got to be honest with yourself. What did you want us to say, Joey? Let's start there. What'd you want us to say? I don't know. Maybe that was a one-time thing and he was gambling, but now you guys

made me think he's got an addiction. Do we need to get him to a specialist? No, no, Joey. He's got, what? Just relax. He's 83 years old, man. You'd have a better chance. He's never going to see a pair of boobs again in person.

Joey, here's the thing. Did you forget that he was your age at one point? yeah i don't know i don't know i don't think i'll be doing that at 80 oh i don't think you're doing it out since i think your real problem is you haven't been able to do it since you saw that you've just been holding it in more so mad about that you're just like he's just like i can't do it anymore yeah has that been a problem joey yeah i just get sad anytime now oh damn is that real or is that a joke no that's not real okay okay So, Ehoo without sin cast the first stone here.

You're getting on your grandpa and you're just doing the same thing. Yeah, I'm quitting and so is he. Okay. Hey, Joey, you go have that conversation with him, all right? And you call us back and let us know how that goes. We tried a few different angles here. That was one of the options. It sounds like you like it the best.

Yeah, I mean, we did our best, but, you know, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. Well, it was on the menu, Miles. It was one of our various things. That's the one where you recommended off the menu, you know, but how often is the waiter coming up saying what the special is and you look at the MP and you're like, no fucking way, you know? Yeah.

And so he's ready to just order whatever he wants off the menu and that's fine. Go ahead. I'm sure your grandpa would love to have that conversation with you. Yeah. Joey, you sound so sad, dude. You're making me sad. No, I'm not sad. What's going to your mind right now, Joey?

I don't even know. It's just all mush. All right. Joey, hey, hey, pal, look at me, okay? We as humans are not the sum total of our worst choice. Okay? So let's just take a moment before we let you go. I want you to think about the best memory that you have had with your grandpa.

he's still that guy nice hang on let's hear it what happened when I was super young I thought it would be really cool to take a pocket knife to school and show it off so I did that and my grandpa thought it was bullshit that they had to kick me out of school that day and send me home so he took me to get ice cream

there it is dude there it is he's still that guy that's the guy you know he's he doesn't follow the rules, Joey. Yeah. And you know, every human is a double-edged pocket knife, brother. You know, they make those. And you take some of the edges and you take all the edges.

You know, we love people for who they are. Sometimes you just got to just be edging, you know? Yeah, sometimes you just got to edge, Joey. Take all the edges and just keep edge. But you get what we're saying, Joey. You get what we're saying. That's a beautiful memory. your grandpa's a great guy

you have no idea what happened here with this whole porn situation you saw it for like a second you have no idea of someone stole his phone you have no idea of what happened you are building up a story in your mind about your grandfather that I don't think is serving you

or your grandfather drop the rock and hold that memory that sweet sweet memory you have of your grandpa I think I'll drop the rock not talk to him there you go that's it I love it keep thing of that pocket knife, Joey. Burry the rock.

Burry the rock. And go get some ice cream after this, all right? Yeah. Actually, go out for ice cream with them. Yeah, go take grandpa out for ice cream. That's right. And talk about the story with the pocket knife. Yeah.

Start building. What you need to do is build new memories. Build new memories. So that one's just a distant one. How far away is your grandpa live from you? Like 20 minutes. Oh. How often are you seeing them?

not often not probably like once twice a month well let's make that once a week for the next four weeks and we'll see how you feel after that okay all right all right good deal jolly thanks for calling in man all right you guys have a good day all right watch for dear yeah i think what we're really looking at is just he's 19 just helps a lot understand this situation. Mm-hmm. But you just reach a point where you realize that, you know, what you thought growing up isn't always exactly the way the world is.

Yeah, we kind of view our grandparents, our parents through this sort of idealized lens sometimes. Like remember the woman whose dad was a swinger and she had some similar vibes, you know? And maybe Miles... How could he do this? And then you say, well, because he's a human being. Right, right. And, but I think maybe we could have loved.

some more space to really figure out how he felt about it and almost give him like a yeah i want to talk about that he just wanted to sit there in silence i know just great for a podcast all right well we tried we tried we don't have a therapy license guys all right jared's got a voicemail we should call up our therapist again the gal remember we should call her up and we should have her analyze uh how we would like what we do on this podcast I would love for her to tell us all of the things that like break therapy law do you know what I mean like yeah I want to we should take that one or the swingers one and say can you listen to this and then dissect how we did um so we can get better yeah we can get better at it like you're watching tape with her yeah we got we got getting the

film room yeah we should do that we're right um this voicemail has no name to it Hey there, Miles. Hey there, Charlie. And we can't forget, Jared. You know what? I live in a freaking town named Lincoln. And it's more like stinking because there's no place to buy beer in this town. I'm a blue collar man.

You know what I'm saying? Like, we got to drive out of town to go get a case of beer and stuff. That's bull crap. It's beautiful. Is that a thing? You can't get beer in Lincoln? I mean, that sounds like a Bible Belt, Lincoln to me, but I'm not Lincoln, Nebraska. I guarantee it's not Lincoln, Nebraska.

Yeah. No, I've been there. Yeah, it's stinking. Stinking. Lincoln stinking. That's a bummer. Yeah. And you just got to find other ways to entertain yourself.

Maybe that's where Joey's grandpa lives is in stinking. Well, sorry about that. Maybe a good business idea. Set up a liquor store in Lincoln after you bribed the town board to change the law. Yeah. One shoebox of money. One investment from your rich buddy's dad and you're in business. Speaking like a true politician, Charlie.

You like that, Miles? Yeah. You know how you like that? Oh, well, is that it, Jared? guys, thanks for tuning in to another episode. Tip your bartender. We'll see you the next one. Love you guys.

Okay, hope you guys have a good one. Goodbye now. Udaloo.