Bellied Up - First Date Red Flags 🚩 #200

Episode Date: May 14, 2026

We’re at Charlie’s Cabin for this week’s episode! We chat about the difference between a lake cabin and a lake home. We then give Grandpa Ralph a toast. Then, Tommy calls in to discuss how his coworkers talk about deer way too much. Finally, Daneet calls in to tell us about one of her coworker's awkward first dates.Thanks for listening to us for 200 episodes! We got some fun episodes coming in the next few weeks!Go to shadyrays.com and use code belliedup for 50% off 2+ pairs of polarizedsunglasses. #adSong credit: Gentle Groove - a chipped reed

Hey there, folks. Welcome to a new episode of the Bellied Up podcast, and we are alive, ladies and gentlemen, from my cabin. Here we are in the Great North Woods, up north, somewhere north the Highway 8, where life is great. My buddy Miles came to town and let me tell you, it's going down today on the Bellied Up podcast. We got the full tour yesterday. So before we, yeah, okay.

Before we what, Miles? Well, so you called this a lake cabin. At what point does it become a lake home? What's the difference in your mind between a lake cabin and a lake home? If it's, because I think there is logs. Cabin I always feel like has got some kind of log vibe, right? Technically a log cabin, but then why would they put log in front of it if they had to specify? Then they would just call it to cabin.

So now as a guy who doesn't know the definitions of this, Miles, I know that's what we're going to find out today. So we're going to define them ourselves. Okay, okay. So what's the difference between a log cabin? No, sorry. What's the difference between a lake cabin and a lake home? Lake cabin is a place with logs.

Okay. So it's got logs. I think that if it's a rectangle box, I think that that makes it more. more of a lake cabin than a lake home. If you got jogs in the wall, you know, I feel like you're, you're venturing into a lake home.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think you got a rectangle here, Chuck. It's a standard rectangle, two rectangles actually, yep. Because that is the thing about, you know, log facade or infrastructure or full log or three quarter log, you know, however you log. you know, however you log it, it's tough to make a lot of turns, you know. It's a lot easier to just kind of box her up and call her a day, you know, so. I think that it, so, Charlie, you got your water station on the counter.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if you have a more complicated way of getting clean drinking water than just using the tap, I think it constitutes more of a lake cabin than a lake home. Okay, okay. And you're saying like a lake home would have a sort of more conducive water system perhaps installed in the basement already. Yes. But if you're like, hey, just so you know, I wouldn't drink the tap water. And you're like, okay, well, I'm not going to be up here that, you know, every week. So I'll just get like, you know, kind of a countertop filtration system. I think if it's got more than. one TV, you're probably a lake home.

And you got the one TV back there. I haven't seen another one. So I think you're still in Lake Cabin territory. Yeah, there's only, uh, now, but this is, this is the question. Lake home, does that sort of define the fact that you live in there year round? Is it just that simple? But I, there's, you know, I mean, really what we're talking about is like rich people versus normal people is what I'm saying, Chuck. Oh, I got it. So like you can have a lake home. I like how you explain. Yeah, I'm explaining the segment to you live. And maybe we should just do that.

So, Charlie, here's what we do. Yeah. We're going to explain the differences between really nice lake, lake residences. All right. And not lake. Let me tell you this, Miles, in a lake home, there's not a massive crack going down the island in the kitchen. Yeah. And on a lake home, there's not a deck where you're wondering if it's going to fall through or not.

Yeah. at a lake home, you're not sitting there going, should there be be footers here? There would already be footers. You would not even cross your mind. No. But at a lake cabin, you think about that stuff.

You're thinking about structural integrities. Yeah, you're like, so if they put that little thought into the deck, did they, huh? Are these structural? So what's funny is you're talking about the deck and stuff

and you're talking about how some guy just built this before you got it. Yeah. And I'm looking at these beams. I'm like, It's a long span for those. I hope they're not structural. No, I... It's a long span and that one's kind of bowed. So I hope that that's just ornamental. It is bowed and also they're all the thickest on this side. Yeah, they didn't even alternate them. Which, and I do not know anything about log cabin construction, obviously. But you would think if those had some kind of structural importance, they would have evened it out a bit. Yeah. You know?

symmetry is important with... Yeah, they get pretty skinny by the end there. They do. Yeah. That's all right. You don't want to do pull-ups on those. You don't want to do pull-ups on those. I'll tell you that much.

I think if you have... Oh, he's taken off there. Good to see you. I think that if more than two people can park on a... asphalt or concrete service, you're probably at a lake home. The more concrete you got, the more it makes it a home. As soon as you introduce concrete, that would be, I mean, that's, especially for parking, you know, unless you're just, if there's a concrete slab there.

Yeah, unless, I'm talking there's like an apron right in front of the garage that's like maybe 12 feet. If there's anything more than that, you're getting. the lake home territory yeah if you got if you got a uh an in-ground basketball hoop pretty good yeah oh there's my dad yeah no you want a beer you want a beer oh okay okay thanks anyway all right everything go good out there all right all right thank you yeah um like cabin your dad walks in in the middle of your and clearly wants a beer but doesn't want to inconvenience us. Yeah, I mean, like, you're just, we rolled up and we looked at you and we're like, hey, where do you want us to park?

And you just kind of like, yes. Yeah. You know, you just kind of just wave to the ether, you know? Somewhere. Yeah. And that's so you know you're probably at a cabin. Yeah. Oh, Lake home, drywall.

Yes. There's definitely painted walls. Painted walls, definitely a lake home. Yeah. Cabin's got, you know, paneling or actual, actual wood, not just the fake stuff, you know? Yep. No sheds at a lake house. Two types of sheds at a lake cabin.

And what are the two sheds? Well, that was sort of like me, like doing a bump set. And then you, and you're like, shed the store. stuff and deer sheds. Yeah, yeah. Antler sheds. I was trying to bump set you there, Miles. I thought we had our, I guess our flow's not quite there yet in this podcast, but we're

getting there. We're just kicking off the dust of our wild night last night. Miles and I came. Oh, yeah. Miles came over and we just started kicking at my deck for a little bit going, yeah, I don't know what you're going to do about. that we discussed options we did discuss options that then actually it's kind of fun my dad and brought his buddies over right and i had all of them uh i had all of them sitting there getting under

the deck giving me uh a few suggestions meeting of the minds would you find out the the consensus was was to just run uh another uh beam over there and then just uh you don't need to put it right in the corner just to add a couple in there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's it? Then you just support it in the middle of the beam. Supported in the middle of the beam, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, that would have made sense. Yeah. Everything's just a garage when you think about it. You know, there's nothing like having a committee of dads looking at your deck. yeah just with well you could do this and you could do that and then someone says something and you're like I should have thought about that a Midwest dad board meeting is just standing around something and needs to fix and they're throwing out ideas and it just involves some kind of board you know yeah yeah there's a board involved in it then it's and there's never a suggestion that you should just

tear it out and redo it no always hey I think I got a fix that, you know, would be, you know, and everything is always, you do it real easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be so easy. You just put a post right here and a post right there. You're good. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's not going anywhere.

Because you would get laughed out of this Midwest Dad board meeting if you suggested anything difficult. Yeah. You know, like, you're just not going to be around very long. You mean you're going to take that tree out? Oh, God, I wouldn't know that. What for? What are you trying to prove? Did anyone suggest maybe just screwing it right to those trees that are on either side?

Yes, actually. I knew it. Yeah, just screw it right to there and then you can just take the posts out all together. Yeah, you can. It's actually a great way. It's a tree house built. A great way to eliminate work is just by eliminating pieces in the machine. Uh-huh.

When God gave you, I mean, I'm sitting here trying to put footers in. God gave me two footers right there, you know, not two feet, but two. trees, yeah. Anyway, they're really rooted in there. What that? I mean, you're like that? They're not going anywhere those trees. Unless a strong wind comes, then

you're kind of, if you're, if a tree up roots. I feel like also the Midwest Dad meeting around something to fix. There's a lot of, you know, it always starts with like, well, you know, if it were me.

Yeah. If it were me, I would do this and but then it always goes but you know I'm not going to tell you what to do right and that's that's polite that's that's that you know but if you really screw it up then it's that was a if it was me it was I told you know like if you do it the wrong way after you get an if it was me and if it was me as a polite but if you don't take the if it was me you better hope it it works out or you're going to get a i told you you know yeah yeah that's how it goes um but yeah i think that also the one of the final things about whether it's a cabin or a lake home lake home or lake cabin yeah i think that um if you can go into a bedroom and you can't hear what's going on

in the rest of the cabin it's definitely a home Yeah. I heard you, I just heard you breathing last night and you were a bathroom separating us. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't even a snore. It was just a. I could hear you washing your nuts in the shower this morning.

Could you? Yeah. I was, I can tell you what, guys, those things are clean. Yeah. He's really getting after. I tickled the grundle, Miles. I tickled the grundo. Hey, Lake Home, you know, you have.

Lake home, you have species of trees that don't grow here normally. Lake Cabin, you push down a dead tree and almost kill yourself. Cut to video. Yeah, Charlie got a little excited yesterday. I did. I got a little excited with a dead tree. I was like, I can push this one down. I didn't appreciate another branch that was in the fall path,

which ricocheted the top of the tree toward me. but I my cat like skills and then we were telling your dad last night we were doing and he was not happy with you he was disappointed he just kept saying widow maker over and over a lot of widow maker talk we were I think that there was like two sentences where he said widow maker eight times we nosed up to that telling him the full story of what happened and uh well we've said the story but no one showed the video after the initial reaction to the story Yeah, no. Yeah, that would have been a bad idea. Yeah. It makes me think twice about posting that video now.

It's good to listen to your dad. Oh, like home, electric chainsaw. Like cabin. Oh, wait. Did I get the right? Like home, like that little tree nipper chainsaw. You know, like one of those cute ones. Kind of like a hedge trimmer you mean. Like a little hedge trimmer deal. And yeah, like kind of on the, you know, they're cute.

They're kind of on a pole a bit. What is that? What is it? A pole saw? No, it's like a, but it's a little chainsaw. Oh, it's just an electric pole saw. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I think heat source is a big deal. If it's a cabin, you got an actual wood fireplace. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Yeah. Cabin. cabin if the fireplace is an actual source of heat lake home if you got an actual furnace pumping heat through the place definitely a lake home yeah yeah that's true um oh lake uh lake cabin 15 different

types of beers in your fridge because people who came by were just dropping off some beer and Mm-hmm. And, you know, you got more people coming. So even if it's not your favorite beer, you're like, oh, someone will drink it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think also smells are big. There's not a distinct cabin smell when you walk in. Did this one smell?

No, it just, I wouldn't say, like, I feel like some cabins are kind of musty smell. Yeah, that's exactly what my buddy said about mine. Yeah. So, okay. But like home just smells like, you know, scented candles. Yeah, there's, I am the scented candle here. It smells like pine when you walk in here. But that's because it's actually pine smell and not a pine scented candle.

You can see the sap on the logs here. Your soundboard is about to be so sticky. Sticier. Yeah. You sat in the wrong spot, Jared. Your computer keys are going to stick together. I swear it's sap. Nothing else.

Okay, even on the company. On a humid day, that is a little stickier. You get that fireplace running. You're going to have sap everywhere. A lake home is if you got a utility vehicle, it starts right up. And if the lake cabin takes about 15 minutes for her to warm up. She just had to be warmed up, Miles, all right? And then also, if your vehicle doesn't have a lot.

a gas gauge on it. And if at some point you have to say, yeah, I mean, I don't know how much when we're as far away from the cabin as we possibly can be. And you say, and you say, well, I hope we have enough gas in here to get home. That's definitely like cabin vibes right there. Yeah, Lake home, you got a GPS in your, you got a windshield. We'll put it to you that way. You got a windshield on your UTV. if that thing had a windshield, they'd be broken. So I don't even know why we're... Maybe it did have a windshield at some point. I will say when we took it,

we took it farther down the path than I have gone. And we did, we were able to break off a few dead branches. So that helps. I just hope everyone closed their eyes. Should have warned you about that. But yeah. What are you going to do about the power steering on that bad boy? I am the power steering.

Yeah, Lake home, power steering. Lake cabin. I am the power steering. Steering. Yeah. Hmm. Hmm. Um, lake home.

Heat. Uh, lake cabin. Oh, what? Lake home. Air conditioning. Mm-hmm. Lake cabin. Sealing fans.

Yes. There you go. And also that ceiling van is so tiny for this area. It goes fast, though. If I turn it on, you'll be like, oh, that's got a B6 on it. Good. God. Gas powered, uh, like cabin gas powered ceiling fan. Turn that, uh, you just hear a generator kick in somewhere. Um, yeah. Oh, um, um, um, that was good, Chuck. It was a thought. You got a great cabin here.

Thank you. Thank you, Miles. Yeah, it needs a little TLC in some places, but like, I really got to fix this. when before that splits. You can see it's been tried fixed before. There's some dried glue in it. Ben tried fixed. It's been tried fixed. But I got a, you see it's splitting good because I think someone, I'm going to have to take all the stuff out because I think it's being pushed on somewhere.

Or it's just gravity doing its thing, Miles. We see it out there in the woods. And the nice thing about the woods as it teaches you is that every tree that falls, it may be the death of the tree, but it's the beginning of a new life of a moss or a morale mushroom or, you know, a psychedelic mushroom. I mean, honestly, I wish we would have Mike Charlie up for his tour because the amount of life lessons,

we joked at some point that I felt like I was on a company retreat and you were just spewing out life lessons about life and death and what you can learn. And sometimes you just need to, you know, go for a walk in the woods to clear your head. had just all sorts of just just little nuggets of information from you that was really nice yeah i mean the path will always reveal itself that was one of them too and he said that when we were looking at where we were going to drive next in the uTV and thinking all right it's either we're going to get

slapped in face with a bunch of branches or he's going to ram this into a tree and he said the path will always reveal itself and it did and i did get smacked a little bit the nice thing too is like one season's marsh is another season's, you know, uh, islands. You know, when it, when a marsh, yeah, it's, it's tough walking in a marsh in summer, but it's why you come up here in winter. It's, it adds a whole new set of acreage, you know, and new lands. The different seasons make the land look different. So it's a whole new, uh, whole new thing here in the winter. You'd be like, where am I? I've gotten lost. out there in the winter.

So we were like, you know, we're doing this and you actually seem like you know what you're doing. So we're like, oh, like, what does your like girlfriend think when you do this with her? And he goes, oh, I've only done this with you guys and my, and my nephews. That was it. My nephews, by the way, are like six and four, three. They loved it. Yeah.

My brother was a little bit. I really appreciated you being vulnerable with us too, Chuck, and you showed us the spot in the winter where you walk out there and you take a nap. Oh, yeah. It was really nice. Yeah, you know my napping spot. There's nothing better than having a nice cold nap, you know.

If you're all hopped up in the big snow pants and the big coat, it's really nice because then you get that cold nip on your face. Just cuts your back. That's how big, yeah, it's, it does. it cups your back. It's like a, and you can just pie the, the tore up roots, you know, when a tree falls and the roots go up. I mean, that's like a throne in the woods in the winter.

It's also a great plus, great spot to build a shelter I found from Luke from the Outdoor Boys channel. Absolutely. Door ups a lot of heat. You get a fire up in the next thing and it radiates it pretty much. Ooh, I've never put a fire in there. That's for if you're surviving. Oh, yeah.

No, I don't have to survive out here. I got to. You got a late cabin. I like cabin. Thriving, dude. Well, Chuck, should we do some callers? I mean, we'll take some collars. What kind of a podcast is this, Miles?

I think I'd rather do than take callers, Chuck. All right. Now I get it. Before we do that, Chuck, though, we got to give a little toast to my grandpa. Yes, we do. Since the last time we recorded, my grandpa Ralph, unfortunately, passed away at 96 years old. and the reason why I bring it up is he was on episode 48, the Bellied Up podcast, and we were in Castleton, North Dakota,

and lived a long good life, but obviously sad to see him go. And so we just wanted to give a little toast and cheers to Gramps. And we'll see you again soon, bud. Cheers. Well, that's great. And we got to cut in one of the videos. I forget exactly what he said, but... I think he was talking about how he knew.

knew a guy in the mob or something like that. He walked, dude, the way he walked in back then, 94, I guess it was two years ago or something. Yeah. He walked in, he walked in like the mayor of that town. And didn't you say that he was responsible for the golf course in that town? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if you're the guy responsible for the golf course in the town, you are kind of the mayor of that town, you know. That's pretty sweet.

Old cottonwood. Now, remind me, what was it your grandpa did? he was a farmer who, well, yeah, he loved golf and farming. That's about it.

Okay. And gambling. Oh, he's a big gambler too. When he was in the nursing home, rent at the end, the last time I saw him, he,

he was like, told my mom to come over there, and he's like, hey, I need you to grab my jar a quarter from the house. You told me that. So that when he's playing cards,

he can still bet on it. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. that's uh the way was he uh playing for nickels or quarters do you know quarters quarters he was going hard and bucket game really what was his game of choice do you know cribbage oh he's a cribbage man yeah do you play cribbage with him a bunch a little bit yeah my dad is uh him and my dad have played a lot of games of cribbage so yeah my dad's a big cribbage guy um he uh brings a cribbed board

with them. Did your grandpa bring a board with them to the home? Oh yeah. Oh, nice. Did he have a few different boards? It's closed on his cribbage board and that's it. What's kind of funny? So my grandpa, every morning he would eat a bowl of Wheaties with like sliced up bananas in it every morning. Breakfast and champions, dude. I don't know for how many years. And then after he passed, my mom was like, so you guys you guys want any weedies. They were buying them in bulk. So we got a lot of weedies to get rid of. How many weeys?

I don't know. But if my mom's trying to pawn them off, it had to have been a lot. Oh, my God. Enough weedies boxes to feel bad about throwing them away. Did you take a box? I haven't yet. I feel like you got to take a box.

Yeah. And then, and then, yeah, have a bowl every year on his birthday. That's true. There you go. Yeah. Get a couple boxes. Yeah.

Hey, in fact, I think you should start getting some weadies every morning, miles. Okay. I mean, your grandpa lived in the 96th. It's true. You know, it's like the old, old people are like, well, it's the secret to living to a hundred. And they're like, I had a beer every day and that was it. Yeah. Yeah.

Beer and a cigarette. That's what got me here. Black coffee, beer and a cigarette. Yeah. Wheaties with bananas. Get that potassium in. Well, there you have it. Folks.

You didn't ask for some health advice today, but we got it. Eat your Wheaties. Eat your Wheaties. I think I just came up with that phrase. Eat your Wheaties? You should pitch that to them. See where it goes. Can be an athlete.

Maybe they should do something where they put athletes on the weedy box. That's a good idea. Dude, we should call the weeds. Weeys are like American, you know. So like you could also maybe do. do like a special edition like Olympics where they put the Olympians. Oh, that's not a bad idea. It's a good idea.

I wonder though if you start putting like football teams on a weedy box, it might be like kind of a curse and not good luck for them in the long run. It's kind of like the Madden cover. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Chuck, should we do some callers? You know, at this point, Miles, we're going to talk to some collars. Let's talk.

This Charlie Miles? Yeah, you got it, Tommy. How we live in, my guy? We're doing pretty good. Just working up here in Fargo, you know, having ourselves a day. What are you doing over in Fargo? I'm working at the Border States Warehouse. Oh, wow.

North Fargo off of 29 there. The Board of States? Border States. It's an electrical supply house. It's a brand new building we're putting up. I've been working here for. and about a little over a month. Oh, yeah.

Nice. Yeah. Right in your territory miles. I know, which is funny because I'm eight hours away in Wisconsin and you're in Fargo. How's the weather over there today? It was nice this morning,

but, you know, it likes to get windy every day. So, you know, it's blowing right now. Is it blowing good yet still? Yeah, it's like 50 degrees and probably, you know, 18, 20. mile an hour wind. Good day to fly a kite if you had one. Oh, you got to get a kite. Yeah, I know. I got a good one. I keep telling myself that. What do you do in the warehouse? You driving forklift or no? No, it's what's brain

and building. So I'm an electrician. So I've been running a lot of EMP and shit. Oh, so you're building the warehouse. Building the warehouse. Got it. Yeah. So you got your like nails painted then, I suppose. Yeah, I figured that was coming. I figured that was coming from a concrete guy. Yeah, you're wearing a banana hammock as well. I didn't want to blow my back out at 25, you know, so I picked a different trade. Well, so you picked the other trade where you get your back blown out then. Nice, Miles.

Nice. God, he's just, he did say that we were going to do some callers today. Yeah. Here we got it. What do you mean by doing callers, Yeah. Thank you. Well, I'll keep them in line.

Yeah, I will. Oh, wow. Miles got an invite. My dad's leaving, so he's giving us the goodbye here, just so our caller is on, knows what's going on. Do you forget anything there, dad, or no? Checking, all right.

Anything you forget I can bring. Yeah, he didn't believe that. That was, ah, sure. That was the classic dad leaving a final put down. Just had to leave me one for the road. It's like, hey, I didn't put you down enough. Over the last few days, here's one final one for the road. Yeah, you guys saw him do that a few times.

You like some sport. But yeah, no, before I said we were going to do some collars and Chuck said, really, I think I'd rather take some collars. And I said, I think I'd rather do collars and take collars. that's fair enough that's fair enough little uh little sexual humor which uh little happens when you're at the cabin little soft innuendo going on there yeah you know it's just locker room talk is all it is and we're trying to keep this guys being dudes trying to keep this church friendly but uh you know it is what it is so yeah but belly on up to the bar here tell us uh what's on your mind yeah so thank

God, I got a pretty decent memory, and I think I left the voicemail about a little over a month and a half ago. But when I was traveling on, like, the oil pipeline, there was two guys that I was working with. And, you know, I'm a big outdoorsy guy, but they would not stop talk about deer hunting. Yeah. And they'd talk about trail camp picks of their uncle's brother-in-law's. Oh, sure. That shot this 10-pointer.

10-pointed. Show me the picture. Where? Where was that at? Like, where was that working? No, where was it? It was a deer. Where's the 10-point?

North Dakota. Oh, wow. That's pretty nice. Yeah. Do they do, you know, the full measurements of that 10-pointer? No. No, they just would show me pictures of it and wouldn't tell me where it was, but they're like, yeah, look at this one, look at this one.

for, you know, a month straight, it was just not, and now I'm wondering if I'm in the wrong of when they would bring it up, I would flat out tell them like, I don't effing care. Oh, you don't care. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Jeez. So do these guys, do these guys have some land in North Dakota? Are they just entering the lottery to try and get these folks?

They got land in North Dakota. And what were their name? The thing is, I'm like, can I hunt it? And they're like, no. and it's like, well, then I don't care what deer you got on. Ah, yeah, I see how that goes. I see. Well, you know, like, were they, do you think that, like you said, you saw a 10-pointer

where there's some nice racks they were showing you? Like, what did you, where are you seeing? Oh, yeah. I mean, there was some phenomenal deer that was, that was being shown. There was one that was shot by, like, his uncle's nephew or something. Do you have picks of that? I don't have them on my phone, no. God, damn.

We'd love to see those. I know. I'm not a good source, but... Also, he lets his uncle's nephew hunt there, but not even going to broach the idea. Were you good friends with him or just kind of friends? His uncle's nephew would be his brother. Yeah. I can't do math, but... It could potentially be his brother.

Yeah. It's like on Shark Tank when he says, like, who's the investor in your company? And he says, oh, it's my wife's father-in-law. and they're like, so it's your dad. Yeah. It's a great clip. Random picture of a deer that they'd show me and be like, yeah, look at this one that I put that was shot four years ago and right by my uncle's land.

And it's just like. What that one looked like? Oh, it was nice. It was like a nice fricking had super tall split brow tides. I think it was a 14 point or some. So, I mean, it was a nice looking beer. It was 14. Yeah.

All right. So can you, do you still have his number? I do have his number. You want to just text him for that picture real quick? You don't mind? That'd be great. The amount of pictures that he's got on his phone of deer.

Well, I mean, whatever he's willing to send, we'll take a look. Yeah. Yeah. So what was your issue with this again? It sounds like a great,

uh, sounds like a great group of guys. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it was like I'm, I'm, I'm a huge hunter,

you know, big into duck honey big into deer hunting but like when you hear about it every single solitary day yeah 10 hours a day when you're working next to a guy I'm trying to wire in a PLC and I'm getting a trail camp

picture of a dough and he's showing it to me it's like I don't know what the dough looks like man I don't care what your dough looks like showing trail camp picks of just a dough is this pretty next level.

Yeah. I will say that. But it'd just be like, oh, yep, this one just came by, the trail cam, and it's just like, okay. Yeah. You showed me about 50 photos in the last three days. Well, what else do you know about them? Know about the guys?

Yeah. I mean, they've been in the trade for a while. They're avid hunters, too. be the one guy's a Stu fan, but it just seemed like everything was just deer hunting, no matter what. Yeah. I like

how the tidbit you told us is that they like hunting too. Like imagine if they're like, they don't hunt, but they just love trail cam picks. That'd be some type of fetish then. Like, you have to get looked at. We didn't say that he was pleasuring

himself to these trail camp. White tails only. You're taking a lot. of pictures of animals and just kind of, you know. Well, the dough does kind of lead us down that path, you know. Yeah. Just a solitary dough is what was the thing that rubbed you the wrong way about it? Is it that you thought they were being insensitive or what?

It was, I don't, it's just the fact that they just did not want to. It was just, I'm getting shown gear camp picks every freaking day. Is it because you ran out of thing, token? things to say, you know, because like, there's only so many things you say when someone shows you a trail camp pick. Yeah. Like, oh, shit. Look at that.

That's a nice rack. There's only so many like, oh, no ways. What time did he come by? He said there's only so many no ways. No way. You do the thing where you put your hands on, just zoom in on it. Oh, wow. Yeah.

When did you see that? The base of that rag is thick. No way. Like you just run out of it. shit to say. When you're getting a pick, it's like, no, if you're like, oh, yeah, check out this deer and look at these grouse that I shot and look at these pheasings I shot and look at these ducks I shot.

It's like, okay, we're mixing it up a little bit. Like, you know, we're switching conversation and I'm seeing some different, you know, multi-species action. That's what you're looking for. Exactly. Yeah, I think it's a classic, like, you just ran out of stuff to say. Yeah. So Charlie, what are some things that if you, if your buddy shows you a trail cam pick,

what are some things you can have in your back pocket to say to keep the conversation going? Oh, you got more? Swipe left. Oh, God, I'd love to get my hands on that. Let me take a look at that. Oh, geez. Okay. That's a human rack.

All right. So first of all, we have, you got more and oh, geez. Yeah. That's what you got for us? Well, you know, hey, okay, you can ask him where his property is. You can ask him if you can hunt on the property. You can ask him, you know, does he like bow hunting or do you know if he likes bow or gun hunting? They bow and rifle hunt.

Okay. They have to go on their property and they said no. So that also rubbed me the wrong way. I'm starting to wonder that, I mean, to flat out ask and to get turned down like that, do you guys have a good banter back and forth? Like, are you friendly? Or is this? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, we get along great. Wow. Even though he's like 30 years older than me, we get along pretty good. And how did he say no? How did he say no? He was like, I don't know. It's kind of just for our family only. Oh, that's an authentic.

That's an authentic no right there. Yeah, it's no different than, you know, you're trying to get permission. And they're like, oh, I think my nephew. hunting over there. It's like, really your nephew's deer hunting a slew? Okay. I think another thing you could try out, maybe you have tried this, but I actually pulled this one out on your dad last night.

He wasn't showing me trail cam picks, but he did a verbal trail cam pick, and he was telling me that he saw eight deer standing by your shed. Yeah. And I said, you know, we're here in May, and he's, and you see all those deer, but as soon as deer season comes around there, nowhere to be found.

Right. Let's say that, you know? Yeah. You know, say like, oh, they're on your cam now, but when deer season comes, they're going to be at the neighbor's spot. You try that one? I will.

I might have to try that one. So that's what I mean. You got to just start building a deeper bench of things to say. Yeah. Yeah, I mean. That's why I called in here. Oh, to get to, to you guys are the experts. Are you trying to build a deeper friendship?

Or are you just trying to really just get an input? invite to the property, you know, because don't take the first no as a null. I'm not taking the first no as a no because sometimes it can turn into a yes. Yeah, sure. Have you brought them any gifts? Yeah, when we were out, I mean, this was, this was like last fall when I was traveling with these guys. I haven't worked with them in a while.

Okay. But when we were traveling together, it's like, yeah, we bring meals for each other and shit. Well, that's really nice. So here's a question for you. What are these guys supposed to do? They're working with you all day. They're maybe kind of a little bit bored.

It's the same old shit, different day. They get a notification on their phone that their trail cams got some movement on it. What are they supposed to do? I don't know. Maybe just keep it to themselves. But you can't do that. Yeah, I mean. I know.

It's not a bad etiquette. Like, that's not good hunting etiquette, I guess. did you see anything other than a deer? Yeah, because then it's like if they aren't showing you them and you see them getting the notification, you're going to start feeling bad. Like, why aren't you showing me those anymore? You don't want to be the friend that does not get a notification

about their notification. Yeah, I know because that's, well, that's the thing is, you know, I do appreciate the fact that they think that I care. But, I mean, it is cool that. some of them. But then when it's like every day or just a little fork comes by and it's like, oh, look at this.

Look at this. This thing came by. It's like, wow, it's still got milk on its lips. Like, why are you showing it? Well, you know, because they'll grow eventually. Yeah. Yeah. You're a girl or not a shower.

Yeah. So, you know, I don't know. I mean, look, at this point, you know, They're no longer in your life anymore. And do you still connect with them textually? Oh, yeah. I'll still contact them here and there. Where are you showing me, Miles?

What's the shit in my beer? What's the shit in your beer? Is there some little black spots in there? Probably just came out of the ceiling, Miles. Dripping. That's a little roofing right there is probably what that is. Is it? It just fell out of this guy?

No, I don't know. I'll just drink it. He'll be fine. We're at my cabin and some black stuff just fell from the ceiling into Miles's beer and he's concerned about it. But it's fine. Oh, it kills cancer. That's probably what it is.

Cures it? Yeah. It cures it. Yeah. That's exactly what that is. It builds your immune system. It's Charlie's cabin. There's good stuff there probably.

Yeah, there is. I got hidden. We'll send you some picks. Yeah. How are your conversation? going right now with your coworkers. Oh, it's going good. What do you guys talk about?

Cool bullshit about kind of anything under the sun, whether it's something that's fucked up on the prince or some guy that's being a jackass that's in another trade. There's nothing that brings a crew together more than talking about how the prince fucked up. Or saying, what do they expect me to do? you know

I feel like that gets thrown around a lot what did they expect me to do here why would they do it like this were these guys not bullshit and about the job site enough for you or were they like did you guys have any other topics of conversation your dear

fellas oh yeah I mean we went when I was traveling oh yeah we'd same thing we'd bitch about the prince okay bitch about shit that we had to do or how we had to do something but yeah and and On any site, you're going to bitch about the prince. Yeah, but now you've got the same guys, but just no deer picks.

This looks like this is a less positive situation you have right now. Well, because it's fishing opener in a week. Why are we talking about deer hunting? Fishing opener was this weekend in Wisconsin, and I'll tell you this. My dad, he got a 26-inch walleye. You want to see a pick? Yeah. All right.

When, as a. an electrician, do you guys, I'll always like to ask trades who they like to blame for all their problems. Is it the contractor, the person building it, the architect or the engineer that you engineer, engineer, engineer every time. All right. As an electrician, I want you to let me know how you feel about engineers. Go. Well, I guess I'm really not high up enough to really have them piss me off but I just hear from foreman about how the way that they want shit done is like well you can't do that because there's a code that we need to follow and they're like well we want it done this way well that's like well if you want it done that way then it won't pass inspection so

you kind of got to pull your head out a little bit and we got to meet in the middle here communication silos is what you're saying yeah is yeah pretty much I like that term communication silo. That's how 9-11 happened. You in 9-11. This is the second time you brought, did you just watch a documentary or something? I've watched a documentary or two.

Okay. I also went to the 9-11 Memorial in New York when I was there in the fall. Oh yeah, you said it looked pretty clean over there. Yeah, they did it, they cleaned it up. Took a long time. That's good. That's good.

That's real good. Yeah, communication silos between the, the government agencies, they weren't talking to each other. So that's how it happens. And now they're fully communicating. No, that's what will never happen. Okay. That's sort of a human nature thing, I think we're seeing.

Doesn't happen in the government? Doesn't happen on the job site? Yeah. It's just misking, you know, if communication was just a little bit, a little better team play going on. Maybe that's my problem is that we're not showing trail camp picks. Maybe if everybody starts showing trail camp picks to each other. That's maybe the way to solve the construction miscommunications in the world.

Maybe, maybe I'm just kind of being stingy and I just need to accept the trail camp picks. That's what brings people together. Yeah. Yeah, the engineers need to be sharing trail camp picks with the electricians and vice versa. I will say, though, there is no, there sometimes is no greater frustration when you're in the middle of doing something. and someone's sitting on their phone just scrolling through months and months of pictures trying to find just the right

trail. Yeah, that's what would happen. Because you're just waiting, waiting in purgatory. And then if they finish doing that and while they don't find the picture they're looking for, but then they do show up a much less impressive walleye or deer. Probably how you saw the dough pick. You know, well, there's a doll. Hang on there. It's coming. When was that? I think it was October. Was it last year?

I think we should do a sketch on this, Chuck. Yeah, let's do it. And I'll be just talking about we're going to workshop a sketch right here. So I'll start off with me asking you about your trail cam and then it'll eventually divulge into like every, you'll just find any little crack in the door to sneak in a trail cam pick. Yeah, you're talking about. I'll be talking about a few roll and you know, I'm sorry about your uncle. The other day, his 12-pointer also passed. Let me show you.

Hang on. Doing the thing where he's just got one eye looking at it, you know, because he can focus better that way. Yep, here it goes. That's my nephew right there. It's his first one. Isn't that nice? Holy smokes.

Frickin. Got to get that a Boone and Crockett award right there, I tell you. some bitch calls it the wrong name you know could do that but yeah

that's a good sketch it's a good idea yeah that's good we did I did a similar video about the guy who always tries to play Wonderwall he's got a guitar

and just shows up and plays Wonderwall oh yeah yeah do you know Wonderwall what do you mean what do I mean do I know it

were you playing it on the guitar No, I wasn't. I'll be a lot cooler if you did. You know, you talk about walls. I was over there at the retaining wall. Fishing. Caught myself two walleye. One perch.

Four crappies. You would not believe the size of here. I got a picture of these croppies. You know what's funny? It's like this is actually what it's like to be friends with you. Oh, stop it. And podcast with you. Oh, what?

That I have a one-track mind. That's what this is. And I'm not saying it's bad. I put up with it. I think the problem with me is I have a multi-track mind and it's just never the track you want to be on. Do you see what's happening here? We all have workplace communication issues. Miles and I have our own communication silos and that sucks because we do a podcast together.

And the whole thing is built on communication. Yes, it is. Actually, the opening segment to this podcast, Charlie, we started a segment. And a thing, and it halfway through Charlie finally clicked what we were talking about. I understood the game. I wasn't sure we was getting at right away. The game of the scene, man. You know, I'm just, I'm scraping off the rust on the old frying pan, you know?

Sometimes you got to just heat it up and get some oil on there and then mess that around, you know? Exactly. Let the rust heat off there, you know? There's a rust heat off of there. Yeah. Something. I don't know. You know.

Or you get it, you just get it blending with the black when you put oil on it. You forget it's there to begin with. You really got to get one of those brushes. But anyways, that's not here nor there. I see Miles, Miles right now is bellyed up to the bar like we're in another communication, Sighlo. Where are you doing right now? I was cutting that piece of pipe with a bandsaw.

Oh, nice. Did you, that was pretty good. You didn't put some mute or anything. No. Appreciate that. Wasn't too loud either. No, no, it's pretty quiet here. I tried to keep it away from the mic so that you wouldn't be able to,

you know, it wouldn't be too super loud for you. It would suck if you, like, lost a finger trying to keep it away from. And you can always tell on these podcasts, these calls, when, when it's time to let them go? because we get a lot of people calling in from work and the second that they start going back to work it means that this is no longer the podcasting that they called in for and they're ready to go right and it's like if that's how they feel being a big enough of a fan to call in imagine

someone's driving in their car they turned on they turn on the regular radio at this point yeah so we probably need to let them go all right well hey this was really wonderful of you No, you guys helped out a lot. Yeah, well, you don't need to make us feel better. Just make sure that the next time you see a deer pick, just take it in because this is a... You treat it as a game. How many different things can you say to someone when they show you a deer pick? Yeah.

Yeah, I like that. I'm going to try that and just really go off for like five minutes about just the one picture. And as they try to go to another photo, go back to it. I'll take their phone away from them and scroll back to it and just look at that deer for five minutes at a time. You could troll them a little bit, asking if they got any pictures of his nuts. You know, I'd like to get a peep at those nuts of his too. Yeah, yeah. It's really weird with it.

I like it. I like it a lot. Well, dude, we appreciate calling in. Good luck building the new border states building and have a good one, man. yeah you guys too have a good one all right bye bye now he fired it up at the end there um well i do think that's a good sketch miles we should do that for sure my uncle does that all the time he goes uh so you want to see something i'm like shit because if the problem isn't that i'm going to see it the problem is the time of the scroll

he's just scrolling through so much and the worst part is is if you take a peek yourself and you see never peek while someone's scrolling you're going to see some photos he sent to his doctor about the peronies and you never knew some things would bend like that but you know my god all right should we do another caller sure all right miles i'll tell you what man these shady rays are just the sunglasses of the future. You do look like you're from the future. I mean, look at these things. I could bike so fast in these glasses right now.

You also with your utility vehicle that doesn't have a windshield. Oh, you're right. These suckers are perfect for that. We could have used those yesterday. Personal, I mean, this won't help the bugs up the nose, but definitely the bugs in the eye. And I'll tell you this, breathing incapabilities on a UTV. that's fine, but seeing in capabilities, that's problematic.

No branches are going to strike my eyeballs with these suckers on. And Shady Ray's Miles, they've got a special going right now for this podcast, I believe. Don't they? Don't we have a promo code and they get some slick? Use code bellied up and you get 40% off two or more polarized glasses, sunglasses. And you can see fish much better with the polarized. If you are looking to see where that smallies lurking, right there. You want those polarized.

I used to call them pulverized miles. And I learned that's not how you say it. But polarized sunglasses. You can see perch too if they're closer to the surface. But anyways, there you have it. Code bellied up. Get yourself some shady rays. The first real warm weekend is hit and everybody's losing their mind.

I mean, you had people, it started getting nice out here, and all of a sudden you had neighbors showing up before we did this. People just are losing their mind. You got people running all over the place. Yeah. Shorts come out. People are driving with the windows down, blasting music like it's the 4th of July. Looking for morale mushrooms.

Yeah. But here's the thing, Chuck. Roads are still beat up. People are rusty behind the wheel, and everyone's just a little too excited. Some people's wheels are rusty too, Miles. Someone's speeding. Someone's not paying attention. Boom.

Watch where you're going. Get the truck. And accidents come out of nowhere. I pull my treble cleft. Or maybe, Charlie, you're out walking, biking or doing whatever in your woods. In the active. You trip on a, not in your woods, but you trip on a crack sidewalk or not even curve. that never got fixed after winter.

If that first taste of summer turns into an injury, you got to call Nicolet Law. That's who you want handling it. Miles, not you. I know I don't want you handling that. If you injure yourself on my property, would you call Nicolet against me?

Before I even hit the ground. Nice. Nice. Good to know where you stand here, Miles. Stand on some sturdy. Because I can't afford it. All right, folks, there you have it. Give Mr. Russell a call.

1-855-Nic-Nic-Ley. Nickle-Law. Denise, how we doing? I'm good. It's Denete, though, with a tea at the end. Oh, shit, I was about to use my done-nephew joke, but, you know, Danite. The neat.

That is, I've never heard it. I've never met a Danite. It's the Jewish name. God. it. All right. Well, thank you for calling in. So, Danit, Bellion, up to this bar. What's on your mind here? Well, so I called in because my friend went on a date with a guy. She met. He was bartending at the bar. She was with a friend. And he asked her out. And they went on this date. And at the end of the day, she did like, do you want to split the check, you know, as a common courtesy kind of thing. and he immediately said yes, and they split the check.

And it was a very big topic of conversation in the office. We worked together. And a lot of us said, oh, that's the red flag. You know, like definitely no second date with this guy. That was mostly the girls. But actually, a lot of the guys were like, well, you shouldn't have offered if you didn't want to pay. So I wanted to see what you guys think about it.

What a great question. Miles, is it appropriate on a first day? to split the check if it's offered by the gal. I just think of today's world rules are different. Yeah. You know? So you're saying yes. I mean, I would just, for me, I would just pay.

But you're not going to judge a guy for not paying. Yeah, I don't know if I'm judging a guy or not, you know? That's what a lot of the guy said. I'm not going to do it. But if she offered, then we shouldn't like be hard on him. but I still disagree. What, what do you think?

Well, I think that he should have paid. I think like a one time do you want to split is, is a no, right? It's like a common courtesy. Like, if she insisted and was like,

no, no, please, like, let's split it. Then like, that's fine, you know,

split it. But if it's just a one, one thing, then he's supposed to be like, oh, no, I got it. Yeah.

But you also in his mind, you know, you don't know what they talked about. Maybe she was giving signals that, you know, she likes to be, an independent woman. Ooh.

And she doesn't like to be the classic, the guy needs to do stuff for me. Maybe she was giving off signals that, hey, I don't like it when guys try and do the traditional masculine role. I like it to be more split. Wow. And then he was trying to navigate that scenario. Yeah. You know, I didn't think about it that way, Miles, but that, it is a different world we're

living in. Danit, wouldn't you say? yeah well actually here's what i found out there's there's a little twist in the story so we were talking about it later and she said that she had made the reservation so i was like oh hold on all right now this complicates things because you're like okay if he asked you out he should have paid but why are you making the reservation like that's on her so that did change my mind a little bit but more about the fact that it's more of a red flag that the guy didn't make the reservation if he's the one who asks her out.

Are they still together? No, no, no. They never went on a second date. Well, did they make out? I don't think they made out. From what I understand, he offered to, like, walk her to the metro station after. And then when he found out that it's like 15 minutes out of his way,

he was like, oh, take an Uber instead. And then that's kind of where that ended. Okay, so three strikes in you're out. All right. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, that's also a good, like, let's say halfway to the date, he's like, I'm not feeling this. It's a very good subtle, passive, aggressive way to say that I don't want to go on another date is by splitting the check.

Yeah, that's... And then offering to walk her home and then finding out how far it is and being like, yeah, maybe not. You know, instead of it being like, hey, do you want to go on another date and he has to say no, he just did the work at the date? Yeah, she should be thanking him that she doesn't have to. to waste any more of her time, I guess, with this guy, you know? Yeah, I guess that's fair enough. She said the only benefit about him that he was six foot, three inches tall, and she's pretty tall.

So she's like, that was the only good thing, but the date was pretty bad. She's six foot. She's six foot. He's six, three. She's like five, ten. Okay. So she really wants that tall guy. Yeah.

Okay. See, and tall guys, they just get away with stuff because they, they were. built with more inches, you know, vertically. And, um, and, and you just say that that's the thing with tall guys is they're built with more inches vertically. Yeah, man. Yeah, when you think about it, that's exactly the thing. I mean, that is what makes them tall.

Yes. Yeah. And, and, and. But I think that that just goes without saying. Well, sometimes it needs to be said, Miles. And I'm the guy to say the things that people won't say. So. What a wild.

take by you. Huge wild take. Now, has she found love sense? No, she's just to look in. But she's, she's young. She's like 23, so she'll be fine. Oh, 23. Oh, and how old was the guy? I think he was around the same age. Yeah. The young bucks, they don't know all the stuff, you know? They, they're, they're really anxious. They grew up online, you know. Yeah. They're getting, they're anxious to get back to their video games and other things that people do. I don't, what else? How old are you, Danete, if I can ask? I'm 26.

You're 26. You're also a young buck. Okay, young dough. Young dough. Yeah, not a buck. Yeah. Well, you got buck energy, Denise. I'm going to tell you that right now.

This is the other question I have for you. What would be the maximum or amount of like money that the bill was for you guys to like agree with him versus agree with her. Yeah, I mean, if she's ordering sides and hors d'oeuvres and, you know, like it's a, gets a side salad, but upcharges it with the chicken on top, you know, like a Caesar salad with chicken. I think. And then order dessert, but she's like, I can't decide between these two desserts.

Let's get two. Let's get both. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like, or if she wants to split, like, you know, you go out to date for someone and there, you like she can't decide between two and you're like well do you want to let's split it you know and then like she's eating your fries and she wants split it and then when the bill comes you'd be like

let's split it you know that's only fair i think what's funny what's that what i just thought is a good life hack for gals is go on a date order like the 46 ounce tomahawk steak knowing you're going to eat like a third of it and then have leftovers so then basically you get you get him to pay for three meals instead of one. Oh, that is smart. There you go. But you're rolling the dice on if this guy's actually going to pay for it, you know? Because you might have to pay for half.

You got a fake. I don't know if it's a price thing. I went out with a gal once and she got a dry rub steak or what are they called, the dry age steak. Yeah, yeah. And she got it well done. And the waiter looked at me and I was like, I don't. that says i said that that's mp i tried to give them the sign like please do not give me an mp stake

i i think if they're getting mp you know uh then then you know it's really got to go well because you don't know what the market price on this stuff is and and you know it they're adding a lot on to the market price so it's like a first date with this gal first day the waiter's looking at you like you need to get it right and you're looking at him like hey i just i'm like just i'm learning this with you yeah yeah i don't know you got any advice for me here i i think if yeah it's kind of like if you're going to get it well done you might as well just get any other get a flank steak i was trying to mouth flank blank um but it didn't work and i paid for it i paid for all of it How much was it?

I want to say it was probably around a $200 bill. Oh, Yeah, I know. I know, $200, $200, $200, $200, you guys. And, um... Did you guys make out? Miles. I'm not one to kiss and tell.

Okay, well, you ask her that question. That's because I was bored, you know? Well, this check was $60. It was what? It was $60. It was not expensive for a meal. Yeah, but you do rent these days. Rent.

You put yourself in a 23-year-old shoe. I mean, they're paying three grand for rent. Three grand. Three grand per month. But if you multiply that, three times one is three, three times two is six. That's $36,000 a year, which is nuts. I was just doing touch math there. Let's say you make $50 grand a year.

And $50,000 a year? Yeah. Now, Danit, are you in a year? any relationship yourself, did you say? Yeah, I'm married. You're married. How long you've been married? Three years.

And how's it going? It's going pretty good. Good so far. No complaints. What did your husband say? Because I know you brought this up to it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he agreed with the men.

He said, he said, she shouldn't have offered if she didn't okay. And then he texted some of his friends who have girlfriends slash wives. And they all agreed with him. So the wives and the girlfriends also agreed that she shouldn't have offered, which I thought was pretty shocking. Yeah, I mean, I feel like my stance is like I don't think he's scum of the earth for her asking for split the check and then he does. I do think I'm under the belief that he should have just paid regardless. It's like I feel like if you're a guy going on a day with a gal, you just need to accept the fact that you're probably paying for the check. Yeah, I would agree.

I don't remember if I've ever on a first date. I mean, I'm never split a check on the first date. I'm going to say that. Miles? I don't think I've ever split the check ever. Oh, okay.

Someone's better than me. Shit. You know, that's fine. I've split a check before. There's nothing wrong with that, Miles. No, I didn't say it was only wrong. I just said I've never done that.

Well, college. Yeah. first date is the issue. I was going to say to her, like, if you, if he wanted to go on a second date, he could have been like, oh, I'll get it. You get it next time. Or we'll split it next time. That's like an opening for the second date. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's smart. It's like you're golfing with your buddies,

you know, and one guy buys a round, then you have to tell him that you'll buy the next round. Whether you do or not. Yeah. Well, what else is your friend? Where do you guys work at? This is a coworker? Yeah, it's my coworker. We, we, we, we, work in sales, media sales. And so that's another thing, right?

So we work in sales, she's like pretty new, so she doesn't make a lot of money. But this guy, she met him when he was bartending at a bar. And I think he works some kind of like a lobbyist job, like for his full-time job. So I'm assuming he's not making a lot of money. So that's, I guess, another like point to consider there. Wait, he's a lobbyist? What do you guys live? We're in the D.C. area.

Okay. Interesting. I mean, that makes a little more sense. I feel like if you're lobbying for a job, you know. He's some lobbyists make it. He must be lobbying for like an environmental issue or something. Just like the type of guy as a lobbyist is probably also going to split the check. Yeah, that's true.

I don't know why that that makes sense to me, but it just does. No, it does. It does make sense. They know their, their angles. That's a, that's a bold move to not even walk with her to the, he must have just not. been into it. What other issues has she run into dating? She says that she's never met a guy who's funnier than her.

That's the one thing. I don't know if that's like more of a, he's really confident in her friends of a few her. Okay, let me ask, is she funny? She is pretty funny. She has a lot of like, she's good comedic timing and she says some unhinged things. Here's the thing.

The way the relationships work is you can't have two people one-uping each other funny-wise. You need the funny guy, the funny gal, and then the audience, you know, otherwise it's not going to work. She needs a good laugher, probably. An authentic laugher, yeah. Yeah. She doesn't need a guy who's funnier than her. She needs a guy that thinks she's really funny. That's what she's looking for.

What kind of unhinged things has she said? Do you remember any of them? Oh, boy. Let's see. I think one time she said something like, oh, what do you do when you see a guy in crutches? And like he's trying to open the door. She goes, oh, you kick his crutches down.

Wow. That just seems like you got to put a dollar in the mean jar. That doesn't even seem like a joke. Yeah, it's a little bit of a downright anger and mean. Yeah, maybe she, maybe. Are you going to say she's the problem? I'm absolutely going to say she's a problem. If that's, if...

She probably insulted him a bunch and she was like, do you want to split the check? He's like, fuck. Yeah. You're being a total B-I-T-C-H right now. Why would I pay for your part of the check? I would love to get her. You said that if you were pushing a guy in a wheelchair, you'd just roll him down a hill. Why would I pay for your half of the check?

Yeah, I think your friend's got a little bit. to, you know, a tone for with this whole situation, if that's one of her jokes. Yeah. So she's 5'10. She thinks she's very funny and you think she's funny. And she's also mean. I think she's funny and it's like she's mean funny. Okay.

Well, maybe some people don't find that funny. Well, let me ask why the guy didn't like her. Has she ever been mean to you when you found it funny? All the time. She's mean to me all the time. What did she say about you? I made her cookies, and I was, like, making a story on Instagram for her birthday. And I was like, oh, I made these cookies for my friend.

Let's call her, like, I don't know, Amanda. And if she commented, and she goes, I'd call you more of a colleague than a friend. Nice. Oh, okay. A rat, tat, tat. I like that. That's better. That's good.

Yeah, it's like if you understand that that's her game, the game she plays, that's kind of funny. Yeah, exactly. Hasn't met a funnier guy. Have her go try to DM some comedians or something. You have any suggestions? Any suggested comedians?

No. No, I do not. But whoever she thinks is funny, just DM them and see what they say. She wants to go. Do you have like a joke that she can tell them? Like give me something to work with. She's the funny one.

She's the funny one. when she's ever met. But you guys are funny too. Okay. Yeah, not as fun. Well, she's not as funny as her. You know what she should do? She should roast.

She should roast write the comedian a roast. Of them. Yeah. A little roast line. Yeah. There's somewhat some, but though, I'm going to be honest with you, whatever comedian she attracts, it's going to. I will have to say comedians and people in the comedy

feel do like a good roast. They do. They respect it. So we'll get stuff sent to our office once in a while of like fans sending us their stuff and it's awesome. But there's one that sticks out of my mind that I especially love because they sent

a message with no product and basically the letter that they sent just insulted me the whole time. At the end he invited me to buy their product. I was like, this is the way to get my attention here. Not only did you insult me, you also said that I got to pay for the product.

How many of those insults do you still think about at 1230 at night when you're trying to fall asleep? That's why I couldn't fall asleep last. Oh, no. So no. Sad. Why, have you tried to set her up with anyone? I actually have. I like, I showed her this guy that is friends with my husband and she's like, oh, he looks like he's got a great personality. So she was not interested. in that one, which was pretty, I was pretty annoyed. I was like, no, he's really, like, he's funny. And he's, that's the head on his shoulders, but she was not. I mean, she's still 23.

She's not in, I'm ready to settle stage, you know? She's got time. She's looking for tall, hot, and funny. Or I don't, you know what? That's the thing. I don't know if she's actually looking for someone who's funnier than her. She just said she's never met one. Ah, okay.

God. So maybe that would like, but maybe that was in her confidence. down if he was funnier. So maybe he shouldn't be funnier. Yeah, I'm getting the sense of that. So a guy... Are you at work right now? Um, I, I'm working from home, but I did have to tell my boss to cut our one-on-one-one early because of this. Oh, we, we're costing you hours right now. Yeah, but he's a fan. He's from Wisconsin, so... Oh, no way. What's his name? What's John. Actually, you've met him before, Charlie. John. You remember John. Yeah, John, of course. a few Johns in your life. Yeah, remind me

where did I meet him? Oh, it's, oh, no, it's John from Wisconsin who works in sales. Only one. Only one of them. You met him. You were doing like a sponsored ad for a company that he used to work for. And you went to his house apparently. I went to his house.

I have it on video. I'll send it to you after. Whoa. It's on YouTube. What company? It was a food delivery company in the Midwest. I don't know if I should. Rub hub maybe?

We're not around than you are. Oh, grub? Oh, no. Eat Street back in the day. Oh, did you have a patio? Oh, John with the patio. Don't Johnny patio. Tell him I say hello.

Out of Madison, right? Yeah, yeah. Sure. Yeah, I remember John. You ask him for me how the family's doing, would you? he's got two cats I think that's it well he's got

his folks and whatnot you know yeah yeah yeah rest in peace I don't know

if it's around anymore each street so you sunk it into the ground with your advertising oh yeah 100%

yeah maybe the ad didn't work so well no it didn't of course not no what you got to say is that they

they were able to last a little bit longer because of your ads. Yeah. Already a sinking ship and you just, you prolonged it. Well, that's cool. And where are you working? You're in D.C.

And she's in D.C. And okay, fellas in D.C., that's a tough place to find love. It's not a lot of truth out there, you know. Everyone's kind of got an angle. I live there for a few months, Miles. What were you doing there? What?

What? Did you run for personal or something? No, God, no. I was a reporter for a little bit there. Yeah. Yeah. That's part, that was a good market to get into a reporter in D.C. That was one place where they said my accent did not permit me to do voiceovers. That was one of the jobs, one of three jobs that told me that. So that was sort of the beginnings of it. Yeah. And I used to, I lived in South Carolina and worked in D.C. because I needed two jobs. I used to sleep in that holiday. in a parking lot there. That was where that joke came from. So a little history about Charlie,

not that anyone asked, but yeah, I remember D.C. So anyways, okay, well, what, what, your friend's looking for a tall guy who's got a

who may or may not be funnier than her. Yeah. A tall guy who, like, enjoys being roasted, like you said, or like enjoys being made fun of. He's kind of. That's kind of a kink. He needs to like to get slapped around a little bit.

Yeah, so she, she what the kids call it. Yeah, but physically too, maybe that's, you never know. What do you say, Chuck? I think the kids call it a dom, a dominant. She's a dominatrix. She would be the dominant. Yeah. She is dominant.

She needs a submissive fellow. I cannot attest to her sexual. I didn't say sexual. No, I'm just saying. Huge shadow to our submissive. of male audience out there. This is your time to shine. Yeah. Amanda, is that what her name was? It's not her real name. I want to keep, I don't know. What if the guy sees it and he's like, hey, why did you tell the whole world about our day? Well, maybe you should have paid for the check

and he wouldn't be in this scenario. You know what? Good lesson. $60 too, huh? Hey, you know what? 23 years old. I mean, come on. That's a lot of money. You know, it just is. 23 years old, I was taking my clothes off for money. And that's a true story. It's actually true. Yeah. But then the question is like, do you ask someone on a date if you can't pay for it? Well, I'm trying to, yeah, I would do a lot of free dates.

I would be picking that restaurant, though. I would be like, you know, I like going hiking. I was a big hiker. Yeah, coffee. Yeah, coffee is a good way to start. It's a good PSA for a first date. Start with a coffee or a solitary cocktail. Don't commit to a full dinner, you know? There you go. Yeah. Make sure you guys like each other. Have dinner as an option, you know? But yeah, it's like you sit down, maybe having a drink. It's going well. You're like,

you know what? I really like you. I got this reservation. Let's go eat. Yeah, nice surprise. This little holding tank in the bar area until until you're ready to. commit. Did they did was she a patron at the bar you said that's how they met? Yes. Yeah. I like that though. I like that they you know, I like that people are still meeting in a bar. That's it's good for business. It's good for us, you know. We've got to keep the bar business and despite the fact we're shooting this in my cabin right now. Sitting in the kitchen. We're still bellied up to a bar. We are bellied up to a bar. We're going to be at a bar tomorrow. So, but anyways, uh, well, we wish We wish your Amanda, quote unquote, luck and hope she finds, you know, the submissive tall man she's looking for.

There you go. I'll tell her to put that in her, in like requirements, submissive call men. Because I imagine a submissive guy is going to want a gal to be forward enough to say she's looking for a submissive guy. Right. You know. You're like, wow, why would you put that in your bio? And it's like, because I'm trying to attract submissive guys. Mm-hmm.

You know? And I'm getting the sense she's also not very serious. Yeah, no. Well, then it's no harm, no foul. Then it just gave her some to chit-chat with her friends about when she was bored at work. Exactly. That's great. Good.

Good for you guys. What was your one-on-one meeting about? Oh, this is with my boss. Yeah. Um, you know, like my sales, like my pipeline, how many meetings I've had this week. How's that going? It's going good. We're doing good.

Hey, get back on the clock. You know, sell us it. Yeah. Okay. What do you sell? And we'll see if Chuck and I are buying. Well, I sell like ads for like businesses. We want to reach other businesses.

So I don't know where you guys would. We have a business. that includes us working with other businesses that pay us to put ads in there. Yeah. Can you get us some, some, maybe your business. I see what you're doing here though. You're making us sell you. You see what she's doing?

Well, she's good at her job. We're not the right one for you. No. Fuck you. Yeah, we are. We're going to give you our money. That's a great tactic. So what's that?

You got Nicolay law is your main sponsor, right? Like, I feel like you've got it good. You don't need any more. Look at her not selling us. Now we want it more. I want to be sold harder. I know. Who's another business in your clientele that would want to be on our,

a sponsor on our podcast, huh? Well, I don't know. I, I felt like financial services. I don't. Oh, you don't think we make money? And also, you don't think that we could use a financial services sponsorship? Maybe, maybe.

we need help with that. We have a lot of young professionals that and old professionals. I try. We thought we're selling her again. Oh, sorry. Shoot. I forget. Okay.

What's the name of your company? Just give them free advertising miles. She is good. I don't know. This is the not sell. If you're a few are. a marketer who wants to reach businesses. Calls up.

Okay. Okay. My CEO is going to be very happy with me. How many calls have you put in today? Today I didn't have any calls. Tomorrow I have a few calls. Jesus Christ. You got to pick up the phone and start dialing. Cold calls.

You have a cold calls? That's not a call. I'm talking about a meeting. Cold calls is like just a routine thing. Give us a call up. Just give us your pitch. Hello. Who is this?

This call seems to be pretty cold. Who is this? Hey, Miles. This is Denise calling. Do you have 30 seconds to chat? Yeah, I mean, me and my husband, Chuck, are just in the kitchen right now. We're making some cream brulee. And it would be good if you could help.

Yeah, Chuck, there's a nice young gal that wants to chat with us. Is that all right? Sure. Hello. Hi. Yeah, well, you know, I, I, saw you guys who were trying to get some sponsors for your show. And, you know, I have a, yeah, I have an audience of about, you know,

100,000 marketers that would love to work with you guys. You know, 100,000 people. You know, 100,000 businesses. Name 1,000 of that. Name five. Name five. Well, you know, a Nicolet law. He's a subscriber.

Okay. Is he really? Wow. Russell. You know, just companies like, you know, Shopify, you know, they do some ads on podcasts. I'm sure they'll be happy to collaborate with you. But, you know, let's tell you. Yeah, we get our, we get our lotion from a company that sells on Shopify.

I could be good. Our lotion. Yeah, our lotion. We're a married couple and we buy lotion together. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Facial lotion.

Yes. Yeah. Yes. That's how we get your pores looking so cute. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, they are nice. Rubricant too.

You got cute pores. You are so, isn't he sweet? You know, the first date we went on, he split the bill. Don't tell this story. Oh, God. You're embarrassing me. He asked me out. I'm way funnier than he is.

Yeah. And he made me walk. You wouldn't believe it. Five miles. to my train stop. He actually made me take an Uber because he won't walk with me. Did he pay for the Uber?

He did not pay for the Uber. He ordered it. Okay, but the whole time, all he did was talk about is trail cam picks. You know, I didn't think it was going anywhere. Well, I thought you wanted to see

how a buck could rut. Well, listen, I'd love to show you some examples of how, you know, our sponsors would fit in with the podcast. So why don't we, you know, we hop on a call. No, we're on a call right now. We are on a call.

Show us some examples. Let's, better yet. I'm just, I'm just crisping up the top of our cremberle here. Why don't we meet tomorrow night? I know a great place that makes a dry rub steak. Market price only. I like it. Well done.

Hello? Hello? Yeah. Yeah, I'm just shocked by the, the, the, well, God statement. You gotta stop telling people that. Well, I... It's really embarrassing.

I'm sorry? Did you just... Did you say that's... Are you being mean? You are a mean girl. I'm just... I think it's like a... It's a disservice to the cow.

Like, you might as well have just like, you know... I like it. I like it. How I like it. Oh, there you go. Are you telling me I should have just gotten a flank steak well done?

Yeah. Maybe so. I don't like how you're talking to my husband right now. But I just, I think that we should maybe, what company are you from did you say? Oh, that doesn't matter.

Oh, wow, okay. Well, anyway, if you guys, I'd like to get your manager on the phone, please.

Yeah, his name is John. He lives in Wisconsin. Oh, he sounds like a great guy. Madison, John, with two cats.

Yeah, two cats. Yep. Who's this guy? Why do you know so much? about this. John. John? My brother. My brother-in-law? You know,

you never want to hang out with my family and it really shows. There's so many of you. There's not that many. I can't keep their names straight. John got you a Christmas present. You have two sisters with the same name. We call one Ellie and the other

Mary Kate. And what are the real names? Mary Ellen and Mary Kate. Yes. There's two sisters named Mary. Mary is the Holy Mother, okay? We're Catholic. And this marriage was really hard to get through the family on the first. You wouldn't

believe the amount of what is it called the mental gymnastics. Before you get married, the meetings you got to do with the priest. Oh yeah. Yeah, the amount of those we had to do. It was easy. I just found

a priest I had. Luckily, luckily we have a decent amount of money that we were able to donate to the church and be able to get it done. You know, dry rubs don't pay for themselves. The reason he bought me a dry rub on the first time is because he said a dry rub for a dry rub. Oh, God. Yeah. Yeah, we had to tell the priest about that one.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how they would have liked that there in the Catholic Church. They are okay with it. They just don't ask, don't tell. So anyways, why did you call us again? The date, the date question. No, we're still in character. Oh, are we doing character?

I thought we were out of character. Ah, didn't need, it's been a pleasure talking to you. It really has. Really has. Have you ever had a sales call go like that or no? Not quite like this. No, not with a dry rub for a dry rub, but pretty close. Well, what's pretty close to that?

my colleagues. One of my colleagues had her client like pull his feet up at the screen at some point. Oh. Unprompted. Like bare feet? Bear feet. Just out there.

What is she? I mean, that's a foot. Has she seen a foot before? I don't, I don't know, but I think he bought from her with 25K after. So like maybe it's such a thing. Man, what if that's his thing? Just showing unsolicited. a toe picks, cuticle shots.

Not pick, it's like live on the call. I know. It's on, it's recorded. It's interesting. Do you have a foot fetish, Miles? No. Oh. Anyways.

Uh, well, so footpicks, nothing weirder than footpicks, foot bits? No. Um, oh, um, some, okay, one of my colleagues, uh, said a guy on his call. said, oh, like, Chris is going to cream his pants when he sees this. So, yeah, at our company, we elect to say cream your khakis instead. A little more specific. It's also more specific and it's more professional, you know? Yeah.

It's not just, we're not wearing sweatpants. We're wearing khakis. You don't know what's pants. Biz, biz, cash. Is it better if it's professional? Yeah, it's got the alliteration, too, like, cream your khakis, you know, the cuck-cag. Creaming your pants is just kind of harsh. It's gross.

But cream your khakis. You're like, okay. Because then you can be creaming cacks, you know? Creaming cacks. It's shorten it up. That guy, that was so good. I cream my cacks. I mean, that's just fun.

You know, see my K's. You got stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, but he did not end up buying. So I think it's feet over. Oh, I thought he, I thought you said about 25K. That was a foot guy. No, no.

The foot guy. Oh, the khaki creamer. He didn't buy. The khaki creamer did not buy anything. It's a little harsh, you know. Well, it sounds like Derek didn't cream his khakis quite like he thought it would, and they didn't end up buying. Yeah.

It happened. Also, to tell you this, this call took a few spins. I didn't expect spinning, didn't he? So that's testament to you and your mean friend. Yep, lover. We do too. Well, we appreciate calling in today. Thanks guys. Appreciate it.

Good luck out there. Tell your husband when he says hi. I'll tell him he says hi. Thank you. And John. Oh, for sure. I'll tell John right now. Good deal. All right. All right. Bye-bye now. See you later.

Yeah, Miles. I actually feel like we're pretty good at role-playing his husbands. We know enough about each other. We can make it happen. Absolutely. I know you're a back sleeper. You know? Zero-g. We got the split king. Yeah.

And I know that you, you need extra lotion for your hands because you got cracked hands. Cracked hands. They're getting better. They're getting better. Ufta. Ufta. That's all right. That's all right, Miles.

The old graspers, they're okay. They're okay. What you call hands? Yeah. See? Grasped that khaki right there, that brunt khaki. Those are nice. Hey, folks, it's been another pleasure having you belly up to this, belly up to my cabin with us.

And wherever you were driving, if you were at the gym pumping, if you were, you know, getting turned on a little bellied up because you were getting intimate with your partner. We're just happy you did. Okay. And make sure you watch for deer out there. And Miles. And the tip your bartender. Yeah. And change.

your air filter folks make sure you change your air filter yeah change your air filter we'll see you the next one all right bye okay hope you guys have a good one goodbye now oudaloo