Bellied Up - Is the Bartender Flirting or Just Doing Their Job? #175

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

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Hey, folks, welcome to the bellied up podcast. I'm here with my buddy Miles. I pat him on the back at the wrong time. He was taking a sip of some coffee. No, you're good. It is. It feels like it's 6 a.m. It does.

It feels early. Even though it's only 9 a. Yeah. Well, we are bellied up to ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, Charlie. The first bar ever from the bellied up podcast, those who know, no. And there's been a lot of people wondering where that bar is. Where that bar go?

comments, right, Jared? Yeah. So here it is. We still got it. If you guys saw we lost it or, you know, I don't know how people you just lose a bar of this magnitude. Yeah. But if anyone could do it, it would be up. Yeah. That's true. That's true. We still got it. Um, still sturdy. I mean, look at this thing. Built like a brick shit house. Miles to wedge a board to make it. But I think, yeah, the the structural integrity of our laziness and building this is well in the place. I think we need four by four base is what we need. Yeah. That's for another. All right. You know. Yep.

But yeah, it's still here. This is episode one we did this on, right? And one and two and what episode is this? Roughly. 175, 180. 180 weeks ago we did this. Oh, my God.

How old are we? How old are we? How long have we been here, God? yeah it's uh but this bar man been here a lot longer than that i'll tell you this bar's probably been here like 3,000 weeks because i think it's from you think this is bc you think you think no 3,000 weeks ago oh 3,000 weeks yeah not years no no i was like you think this is this is older jesus no i mean it could be some of this wood man i i don't know i'm not sure i'd tell wood that old but I can tell you this is old wood.

Good wood, old wood. This is a solid-ass tree, man. This is a first-generation tree growth right here. You can feel it. So, Miles, how you been? I've been good. How are you been? I quit nicotine.

Well, congratulations. Shut up, Miles. Congratulations. Shut up. Shut up. Yeah, I quit. I quit. I quit doing it.

And how are you doing in that? I'm doing fine. Because there's a lot of people out there that are addicted to nicotine. Yeah. And there's a lot of people who probably wish they weren't. And as someone now who's on the other side, talk me through what's going on. Well, what's it like? It started off, Miles, started off a long, long time ago.

I was with my buddy Jay Riley and we were bike riding around town and we went up to church. And outside of church. You went to church or you just went by the church? We went to the church parking lot where people would put out their cigarettes and we would get their old used cigarette butts we were in second grade and we would take them to the woods to smoke them.

So that was my first introduction to nicotine. How old were you actually? Second, third, fourth. I just said second grade but I'm trying to think when I actually met J. That's crazy. I think we were in fourth grade. So you're like 10 years old?

Yeah, we were biking around. town man we were we were biking through the woods but you know at some jays at 10 year old you had your first cigarette that's crazy well it was a cigarette like it's it was half a sick yeah but still sig i mean but they were yeah but we were just tasting them then we didn't know what we were really doing but that was my first introduction to nicotine that's crazy way back then yeah you always knew some of them the ones with the lipstick on actually were pretty good oddly enough whoever it wrote wore that red lipstick. She would only smoke.

Had good taste in cigarettes. Well, she would only smoke half the cigarettes. So we have more there. But yeah, Jay's dad would have a couple at night. So Jay knew how I was done. And, you know, we were just, you know, we were just experimenting just kids. But anyways, started back then.

And then I never was a heavy smoker or anything like that. But I had, you know, a heater. Yeah, a drunk heater. A couple heater. A couple heater. and then, yeah, I got going on that mouth nicotine. And then I was like, I was like, I got to get off this, you know? And so I got on that Nicorette, or as my brother called it,

all the penance, none of the sin. And so then I was chawing away on that. And then lo and behold, I think I had one of the first zins that ever came into this country. I was doing a show on or I don't know what I was doing. Charlie Bears Zins over here. Charlie Bairson's yeah Yeah, I was early on I had never seen one before

And there was a fellow foreign fella from Norway or something Sweden maybe And that's where they make them And he was a dating a gal that I knew And he pulled one out And I said, what is that? Because you know, I can sniff out a nicotine

If I didn't have one I mean, you've been doing it since the second grade You know Well, that's that was just like You know, that was my first date With nicotine, you know But anyways miles i'm going through the whole like history of me and nicotine i'm i'm hearing it

and um so that's when i first understood what the zen was and then i was like oh so there's no problem with this you know there's there's no cancer thing but we can't say that we don't know we don't know we just know i love how they put on the label this chemical is super addictive no shit yeah that's why i'm coming back i'll take two you know But yeah, so I quit. I mean, my dad, I was ice fishing with him over the winter. And he opened up my car because I would get him right back and like four. You know how you turn your front seat.

Your front seat in your car is just a garbage can. Correct. You know, that you clear like once every two months. Yeah, it's like you have different spots. You have the door. Right here. The door was the little like pocket on the door. Yeah.

And when that fills up, that fills up first. Mine actually has a little one that's in between. on the center console there's a little one yeah and then i like one that's kind of out of side of mine it goes underneath your seat like it's on the floorboard but it's all pushed up against your seat yep yeah if you're sitting down you can't see it no you can't it's like you have a clean floorboard yeah yeah yeah because it's got that little that little berm that little trash berm right under there put it right there it kind of looks it's kind of like the mount rushmore of garbage you know you got like a chuck wagon wrapper you got a white

a bottle and energy drink. Yeah. And then here's a question. Never mind. So yeah, anyway, my dad opens a door and then all it falls out. He goes, that was a man, you know, where are you doing? You know what this does to your heart rate? You know, your dad's a doctor.

My dad, yes. Yes. And he gave me that, that lecture. And I. What's it like in a lecture like that at 30? my dad's a scary man he's like the hell is the matter with you huh you use your fucking head you know like so uh you know now i of course ignored that for a long long time um you know so what was the straw that broke the camel's back i think it just i i was just like up um

i think it was not good for general i for just for anxiety. I think it was just like keeping me up, you know, because it's like a stimulant, but, yeah, if you get the heart rate going.

Yeah, and also, you know, I went to the doctor and doctor was like, you know, your cholesterol is a little high. And I was like,

but I eat healthy, you know, he's like, well, how's your stressful? I say, it's fine. It's good.

We're my zins. You know? So I was like, all right, maybe I should try cutting back on that. and then see if that helps so but so far it's been really stressful not being on it miles and but anyway how how long you've been you've been clean oh you know um a little over a week

you were planning that up like i am three months sober no no i mean look i had i had a couple slip ups i had a couple slip ups but i've been i've been on it for about a month i've been off it for about a month minus a couple slip-ups. Okay. A couple slippy-dippys, but a couple... And Charlie, you need to stick with it, dude, because you need to be the success story that all the people listening need to know and hear you know that Charlie Barron's with his lack of willpower can still quit nicotine.

I know, because, you know, the funny thing is what you do with those ends. Because, you know, a lot of people will put them in their mouth and then, you know, use them until they're done. and then they'll be in a social situation. So they'll take them out of their mouth, put them in their back pocket, just a wet zen. People will do that. No, I know.

But why does that matter? Because how many loads of laundry do I need to do where the lint trap is just old zins? You know? Like, how many do I have to do? It's been enough. It's been enough. It's been enough time.

But yeah, you're right. I'm going to stick with it. And I'll be honest with you. Because now it's not, you're not holding yourself accountable. you now have accountability of all the viewers. I didn't want to do this. That's not why I wanted to do. I want to come up here and tell you how I could really go for a sin.

I just want you to know that if you relapse, you're letting down the entire bellied-up audience. Bellied up? Look, I got to tell you this, Miles. They'll forgive me. Okay. No, half of our audience are going to be like, fucking quitter.

Yeah, I know. What an idiot. I know. you couldn't stick it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I know. Barons is a wuss. I bet he was only doing threes.

I thought he was Jill. Turns out he's a narc. I had a show out in London when the Packers were playing out there. So I was out there. And they out there in Europe, dude, they only sell, like 15 milligram once like it's in I'm like what is wrong with you people you know but they they would uh uh yeah they just had to like and they sometimes they don't even say the milligram they just have like a little meter on it that says like high medium low you know

it's like the the hot sauce at buffalo wild wings you know you pick up you pick up a packet says blazing challenge on it. You're like, I don't think this sounds good at all. And the equivalent of that of Zen is like drive to California with no breaks. Yeah, 24 hours straight. Zoot o'clock. So, I mean, one, I'm proud of you, Charles. Yeah, thanks, Miles.

Thank you. And, you know, what's the message you would say to someone out there who's thinking about doing it or knows that they need to? How do they get over the hump? after being a guy who's quit for a month, kind of, and then for a full week now, as such as big success story, what would you say to the folks?

Well, you know, I would say, first of all, I think it's a lot of placebo. Like, you would be amazed how little of a difference there is not having it, minus the moments where you're like, damn,

I can really go for one. But if you wait it out, if you waited out like 10 minutes you wait out the craving 10 minutes you you don't want it anymore and um and then over time you don't need to quit forever you just need to quit for 10 minutes 10 minutes at a time and if you got to set a timer you know yeah seriously and also uh someone told me this if you think about the emotion or the thought that made you want what's the thought the trigger the thought that made you want to have but but some people have a trigger to the word trigger so some people are triggered by the word trigger so i don't want to bring that out um just

relax though well even you want to relax give me a nicotine do we have one um no but you you just write that down you know and you just look at that and then wait 10 minutes actually i think i'm waiting 30 minutes and then if after 30 minutes i still want it they said take it and so i haven't wanted it yet There we go. Except for the few times that I took it. Well, there you go, though. That's the Barron's form. The Bear Zins formula.

The Bears Zins formula. You can write a book. I have Bears Zins. Although I feel like that's... I started writing this book. I started writing this book after being sober from nicotine for one week. I am proof. I am proof that you can do it too.

The book just stops like 10 pages in. No, like chapter three, like the book starts over. He's like, all right, so I relapsed. Let's try this again. Yeah. It's been three weeks since my last sin. Dear diary. Yeah.

Well, you know what? I mean, that would be the most accurate representation of addiction, though, right? Yeah, yeah. Books about addiction should be a diary. They shouldn't be, you know, advice. I could probably publish that right now. I've said, how long have I said I'm going to quit these or I'm quitting them? I mean, 180 episodes ago.

Yeah. 180 weeks ago. Yeah. So now I think I'm, I think I'm serious, mouth. All right. Because the other thing you don't want is like, you're, I've been buying them one at a time too. Because I'm like, I'm, I'm, this will help me quit. but it's just wasted so much of my time.

Yeah, you're just making extra trips. Yeah, it's just, it's just, oh, well. Well, Miles, what do you think? Should we, should we take a caller there, pal? We should. Let's do it. Guys, it's time for prize picks. Prize picks will give you $50 in lineups

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got to let us know you got to go use code bellied up sign up today hi this is eric how are you hey eric it's charlie and i'm here with my buddy miles what a what a rich timbreed eric i mean seriously it's so nice to talk to you guys You should have a radio show, Eric. Oh, thank you. Thank you. You got a voice for radio. Are you guys today?

Do it good, man, but I want you to, I feel like I want me to, um, give him a headline to read. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's actually a good idea. You could do, uh, Charlie Bears Zins, um, is one week sober off of nicotine. Yeah, you want to do that one? I wouldn't remember what you just said to me. I won't see it right. Okay, how about flight chaos continues

amid shutdown. Light chaos continues amid shutdown. Yeah, it's there. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. That's great. Also, I got a flight tune. This is not a good idea. Maybe I should drive. Could you find that story and read me

the whole thing? Hey, what? It's going to be fine. fine. Okay. It's going to be fine. All right. I know a barren spiral when I see one. Yeah. It's okay. Tailspin. Tailspins. What would a... Are you flying Delta? Fine, Delta, yeah. Then you're fine. All right. Eric, yeah. Eric, so we hear that perhaps a bartender has fallen in love with you. Oh, well, I wouldn't go that far, but I do, I do have some advice right i need some advice from you guys yeah and i think it's something that the majority of your audience will probably have some empathy with and that is yeah i think i think the bartender

likes me so the now there's like a universal rule and so i watched my you know through my 20s i have a good friend scott and it was like a conquest for him he had to pick up the bartender that was like a thing and it's watched him crash and burn and crash and burn and it was very entertaining to watch so his thing was like he went to a bar and he's like i the only thing i care about tonight is trying to take home the bartender that's what you're saying it was it was it was like a win for him yeah and he was never successful and it was but he he's persistent guy love the guy uh but it taught me that it's like a universal rule and you tell me if you agree or not is is, uh, just leave the bartender alone. They're working. Um, they kind of will, you know,

flirt or get some tips or whatever their strategy is, but, uh, yeah, I mean, you know, they're working. The biggest thing is like, is like these guys or guys and gals have seen you in the form of a thousand other people. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I feel like your buddy thought he was a little bit special and it's like to the bartender. It's another patron that's come in you know what I mean is the people the same people who think they can pick up the bartender are the people who think like the government is following them you know like you got to have that much of an ego to think that someone would want you out of all the other people out there you know right right and uh or

they or they've just done it once and now they think they have they can do it a lot but yeah it's it's does he also go to exotic dance facilities and think that the strippers are really into him uh i won't incriminate him anymore in that way but but yeah yes in our 20s in our 20s yeah yeah he's got a classic i'm in love with the stripper yeah personality yeah can we also dive into the logistics of taking home a bartender a bartender i mean how late do you got to be up yeah you like the bar closes at 2 30 and then I mean, I've done some bartending work in my life. And you now have to wrap all the bottles.

You have to sweep the floor. You got to clean the vomit out of the urinals. You got to put all the freaking chairs up. Take the garbage out. You got to mop. Yeah, you got to take the garbage out. I mean, if you're cooking food, it's a whole other ballgame. But usually the kitchen takes care of that.

You got to clean all the glasses, man. I mean, you're there until 3.30, 4. in the morning, you know. And then you got to go somewhere, which is, you know, depending on, it could be before you're doing any hanky-panky, it could be 5.30 in the morning. Right. It's like at that point, you might as well just go to breakfast. And you're going to probably go to breakfast.

And, you know, a lot of bartenders do get off of work. And, you know, you've got your third shift guys and there's a third shift bar or there's a third shift breakfast spot, you know. It's also kind of strange that, like, you know, you know. Like, imagine, imagine just, like, being an accountant and just always have someone trying to sleep with you as an accountant. Like, you're, like, people just, like, coming into your cubicle and just being like, so, what are you doing tonight? You know, that's their job. Yeah.

Like, they're just, they're paying their bills by being there and just constantly having people trying to sleep with you. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I totally agree with that and that's that kind of universal rule it's like let's be respectful to our bartenders but let me paint just a little bit more of a context of my picture.

Oh, good. To get some specifics here. Yeah, so let's dive into your scenario here. Yeah, so I'm in Fremont, Wisconsin and there's a little bar called the bus stop and it's a small town local divey bar and so it's the same, it's a very small community, particularly in the off-season of tourism.

And so you're seeing the same people. And really peeling back this onion here, my first question to you guys is, let's say, and you know, you have had a bartender crush in your lifetime, I'm sure. But, you know, how do you know? Tracy for me. Oh, nice. I love that.

So how do you know? She was also a blackjack dealer. She's the best. The one that got away. Sorry, Ann. It's also funny because she was like 10 years older than me too. Yeah. Yeah.

Anyway, sorry. Continue. Yeah. So there's, I've had, you know, just I'm coming in on a regular basis now. It's a small, middle spot. And how do you know that the bartender actually likes you? What are some of the criteria or some of the things you think a bartender does. What did Tracy do that let you know that she may be into you or wherever that person was

for you? Well, let's know, before we do that, let's, you tell us what the bartender's been doing to you and we'll let you know if she's into you or just trying to get a bigger tip. Right, right. And I knew you're going to ask that question. Yeah, let's do, let's do a game called love or bigger tip. Right. All right. So, uh, some of the standard things. are I'll get bored a heavy drink. So Bigger tip. Okay. Every once in a while I'll get a free drink.

I'm pretty new to the area and so she's been super helpful to help me understand all the bar dice rules and you know the sign-in and all the standard like Wisconsin bar gambling things

and but Okay, pause right there. So far, these are all pretty standard bartender moves. Yeah, you have described not someone who is necessarily interested in you as much as you've described a good bartender. Someone who's good at their job. Someone's just running a good rail. Yeah.

Right, right. So as we get more, I think we've established a friendship. So we talk a lot about music. I like to play the jukebox. And so she's giving me opinions on music, so we're having a good conversation about that. I'll play some of her stuff that she requests. And but overall, I think there's just like this, there is an energy. I don't know how to describe it.

There is a vibe. And I was watching the Packer game a couple weeks ago. And we're having interaction at the bar. The bar is full. And this couple next to me, they're just like, they're reading that energy. And they just straight out ask me, are you? Is that your girlfriend? Are you, are you two dating?

Okay. So, something there, something there. Has she touched your leg yet? No, because she's on the side of the bar. I know, but. Yeah.

Now, but she's like, she's like touched my hand or like has, you know. Oh, okay. And how has she done it? Has she been like, I wish this was FaceTime.

I want to touch Miles' hand and see which way it was. I just want to make Miles uncomfortable, but I won't do it. Okay, so did she, did she, like, did she ever grab your hand, like to emph as an exclamation point that helped uncomfortable with it? Or was it kind of like a, like a. Yeah, did she slide it right off and linger on the thumb? Or did she grab it, like, as an exclamation point to a statement? Or was it one of these?

Or was it like, oh, did she slap it, like is a playful slap play? How did she do it? No, it was kind of like a grab and a hold, like an emphasis of, hey, I see you. Oh, I see you. Wait, what did you say to her to makers? Did you just tell her like someone close to you died or something? I don't remember what I was said. That's the other problem is you have two tree drinks and all of a sudden you're like, yeah, your memory gets fuzzy.

Yeah. And my memory doesn't get fuzzy after two drinks, but I can see. how that can happen. So I think what, so what other things should I be looking out for? What would you add to that list? So you're talking about like physical touch if she like reaches out and touches me in a, you know, because I'm guessing there's some tables in the bar.

So she ends up on the other side of the bar and maybe like whips you with a towel, you know, it's kind of fun playful little thing. Some little locker room play going on. Not like I'm going to hurt you. No, no. It's not every locker room, but, hey, Miles? It's just fun-loving, uh, towel slaps.

Yeah, so that's a good sign. Um, I think, uh, I think you can tell a lot about love through the eyes. Yeah. Stop looking at me, Miles. I had to, uh-oh. If it's kind of like, oh, yeah, yeah, is she lingering on in making hard eye contact with you? You know, if, if her head slightly turned away from you, but her eyes. are still on you, you know?

What matters? This went from uncomfortable, the kind of erotic. Kind of hot. Yeah, Lord. Watch out, fellas. Belly up to this bar. All right.

So eye contact and how intense the eye contact can matter. Have you felt any locked on eyes? Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. I think in the business, we call that sending doomy eyes, you know? Dumi eyes. Yes.

Is she sending doomie eyes? But I'm going to interpret that as yes. Okay. Yes. That's a big deal. And also social proof is a big deal too. If other people are feeling the energy in the room. Yeah.

You know, there's, you know, love is in the air. Now. Can you feel? Oh, that's what you need to start doing. You need to start putting romantic songs. Oh, yeah. On that all, all sex scene songs. movies, start just do a, do a run of that one night, you know, like, can you feel the love tonight?

Sex, for a sexy, well, sex between lions. Yeah, cartoon lion sexy. Yeah, start soft. Start with the soft core. Yeah, soft core, like necking, you know, you know, like in the movie, like them having sex is them just like rubbing their necks against each other. Well, they were lions, dude. They're not going to show a full-on Mufasa Mount there. The Mufasa Mounts there. Um, spoiler alert, Mufaso's dead by then. Well, I mean, that's how we got Simba who is obviously doing what his dad did. So, you know, the Simba mount. So maybe that.

What's the song? What's the song in, uh, it's an erotic scene in Top Gun? Oh, yeah. What's that? Yeah. Take my breath away. Yeah. Do do.

Do do do. Yeah. play that song. What other good ones are there? Maybe play Pony. Do you know what song that is, Charlie? It's like the magic Magic Mike song. Yeah, I can't really hit the tune.

Oh, hang on. Hang on Miles. Before you go on listening the songs, remember that she, the bartender, gave him some songs to play. Maybe there's a hint in the song. Yeah, what kind of songs you're recommending? Yeah, that's a good, I haven't thought about that the they're mostly uh bluegrass types of songs blues blues songs uh so nothing's super

romantic per se but it's something that we've talked enough that we know we both will like and you know it's a delicate balance because you're playing the jukebox so you have to play something that the bar is going to actually enjoy but also if you're trying to communicate a message so i really like this idea of a custom yeah i think what you should do is to play a wop by Cardi B and just see what happens. I don't know if that's on a jukebox or not. Oh, it's on a jukebox. It's on a jukebox.

The bluegrass version, though. Right. The bluegrass version. I'm sure that it's somewhere. So she likes bluegrass. Yes. Yeah. Have you asked her, have you asked her like to an event out?

side of the bar? Well, so that gets to this next part of my question. I'm unwrapping this onion here. So let's say you have that. You pull back the layers of an onion, though. You don't wrap it. Yeah. But anyone. So I'm in this little fantasy bubble right now.

So I am going to the bar and I'm having a good time. I have a good conversation, a little bit of flirtation. This bartender is getting, you know, what she's needs. or whatever that might be. She's getting a happy tip is what you're saying. I am, I'm being, you know, kind and being a good patron, you know. So if I ask her to something, you are bursting that bubble. Correct.

You're, you're, do I, so the question is, is do I stay in this little fantasy bubble? It's just, just it's nice and warm in here. It's great. Well, we haven't discussed, are you into? her like what's your feelings about the scenario oh yeah yeah i mean she what i really appreciate about her and i think what this makes her such a good bartender is um she just has a good soul she's a very kind person and that is just really attractive to me and uh and she's you know has beautiful eyes you know she's a beautiful woman so um let's go yeah so this is getting this is getting

very hot. Yeah. Can we, can we play a little? This is a little early in the day. I know. I know. I didn't know we were writing erotic novels here on the Bellied Up podcast, but go on. So I like that you're really hitting the emotional chords here, too. You know, we don't even know what she looks like physically. But you're romantic. Wow. She is hot. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yes, thank you. Uh, so yeah, yeah, first of that bubble. So I would, you know, ask for her number or out to a bluegrass event. It's a great idea, Charlie. So I guess my last question here in this kind of thing is how do you ask? So you say that you're going to ask, how do you ask a bartender for their number without being creepy?

Well, without it. First, you, I, here's one way to play. Miles, I'll give him one way to play. can give them another way to play. Here's what I would do. She's a bluegrass fan, right? Yeah. What's her favorite bluegrass band? Oh, I can't say she's, I think she just rattles off a dozen bands. She's a big, like, festival person. Okay. Well, you should start by listening a little closer, but you find out. Her eyes are up there. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. There is, there is, there are words coming out of her mouth.

She has a mouth, by the way. A mouse down here, okay? So what you want to do is listen to what her favorite bluegrass bands are, see when they're coming through Wisconsin. My buddy, Adam, is in horseshoes and hand grenades. They play a lot of the festivals around here. I could probably get you some tickets to that. Oh, yeah.

You know, a little backstage, you know, side stage. even maybe yeah i bet adam would do that for me i'm not sure i'd have to ask him real nice but i bet you know if you found out who her favorite bluegrass band was and you you you got a couple tickets and you just gave them to her and said hey i got i got uh two extra tickets oh this is smart then make her invite him back yeah i got two extra tickets to this show um you know or i i got two tickets is a show you could just give them to her that might be giving a mixed signal though like maybe you're not interested or you get three tickets and you say hey I got yeah start off like a group date you know when your parents are like in high school and they're like you're not going

out on a day with a girl you get her pregnant you got to go on a group date all right you get other people there so you guys can't sneak off and get pregnant you know what I'm saying so do that do that And tell you. This is the most Charlie Barron's thing ever. Hey, ask her on a date, but make sure other people are there. Yeah. Well, it's a concert. Other people are going to be there. Maybe, maybe get four. I don't know what I'm saying. You, I feel like you don't. Yeah, you get three tickets. You're like, bring a friend. It's me and you're two friends. That's that's, that's. That's, that's, don't do. Do not do that. This guy was divorced once. So let's. yeah i like the idea charlie give give a ticket and just say hey i'm going to the show i happen to have an extra ticket use it or not and then she says yeah she says she can't go and then you're like ah shit i don't want to go this concert yeah yeah then sell them again but you know i like that idea charlie and make it far enough out in advance that she can't be like i have to work because that way if she straight up denies you with it

he'll know she's probably not feeling it. She'll think it's sweet though and it's a friend. It's a friendly move because you don't know if your friends are not. You don't want to creep her out. You want to maintain your bar. So just a nice gift, a nice gesture, something thoughtful. That means you listen to her and whatnot. I think that's my advice.

Miles, how about you? Yeah. I mean, that's definitely the more work approach. No, it's a good approach. I like it. I'm just trying to get more to the point with, because like it is, like asking her to a concert, there's like, is this a date? Is it not type of vibe? So if it, if she isn't into you and you do guys, you guys do go to the concert, it's still not weird later. So I do like that a lot. But, because every other scenario of asking for a number or something comes off as like, I'm into you. And if she's, if she's not wanting that, then. you're right the bubble is burst and then you lose not just the bartender but your bar you know right there's like three bars in this town yeah and the bus the bus stop is just it's a classic

wonderful town town bar i don't want whatever happens i want to keep going to this spot so you're right this is kind of a delicate balance that uh i don't want to mess that up no i think you there's a way you could do it for not messing it up is like get her number and like a friend way, you know, if it's like, um, something, uh, like a common thing you guys have talked about, um, being like, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Like, like, you know she likes this band. And so you find like an article on the band. You're like, oh my gosh, I just read this great article on this band. Here, I'll send it to you. What's your number? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then you got the number and then over weeks time you touch in outside of the bar you know like

maybe you're at the fucking record store you know looking for some vinyl you see one of her favorite bluegrass bands there at the vinyl store you send her a photo of it say hey you want me to pick this up for you or you won't believe what I saw at the record store yeah of a sudden there's a touch point yeah and you just keep touching in until the point and then you'll get the vibe of how long the conversation, say if she sends you one text back or does what my dad does and just sends a thumbs up. Yep. And then you know.

Then you know what you're saying like, like touch points. You know, like when you're like, you know, when you're, when you're using like wood glue, right? Do you just do one line or do you do like a little, a bunch of, like, do you do you do it like this, you know, so you got more surface area touching. Yeah. You're not just doing one line. That's going to rip off pretty quick. there you got to you got to just and then you'll find out and what you'll develop right there is a

is a friendship you know and perhaps in doing this friendship you realize that you like her more or that you're not that into her you know so and and yeah and um yeah and i think she'll respect it because you know you're you're going you seem like a guy who's going for the full person not just like a one night thing and i guarantee everyone else in that bar is not everyone else but enough people are going for that one night thing so i think you're standing out by being genuine and going after that beautiful soul behind those eyes that's right and i think that that's two approaches charlie and i think the last approach is it needs to be um it was the heat of the moment so you need to wait you need to wait until the doomy eyes from you and her are at its

strongest where you can just cut it with a butter knife, the sexual tension in the room and then you just need to just probably just be like, hey, do you want to get dinner this week? I will bring in a fourth approach because at one point, Miles, I

had a thing for a bartender. Why it's taking so long to talk about this? I shared my feelings about Tracy. Yeah, I know. Well, I kind of said what to do, but you know, anyways I I stayed I asked if she needed help after she needed help cleaning up and I helped clean up after and that worked yeah oh well there you go so that that's actually yeah that's actually the best approach yeah it's a very Midwest way especially in a small town bar you know just just keep asking go there asking like you guys need any TP I'm over at you know I get I got My mom's got a Costco membership and I'll get you guys, you know.

I bet you have a Costco membership your mom does. I don't have. My mom does have one. But yeah, you know, just just see what the bar needs. What's making her life, you know, better. Is her dice cup in good shape? You know, do you have a better broken in one? A good dice cup's like a baseball mitt, you know?

You don't want like a fresh one off the deal, but you want a little bit of it. But you don't want one that's so. Yeah, let's not. over complicated just ask her like towards the end of the night she'd be like hey do you need my help you know closing up tonight and then just see because if she says no then it's like oh you were just being nice right and yeah no harm no foul and and to ask if you need help it's very Midwest thing you know like like I you know you ask your neighbor if they need their gutters clean if you see stuff growing out of it you know so um

it's very low, low risk. Because if she says no, you're still friends. Which is basically essentially what Miles just said, but I said it in like way more words. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate this. You know, I have to say I listened to the podcast for a while. And a lot of time you guys talk shit, but this was actually like the advice.

This is not bad. This is some good ideas. He's shocked with a, we need a podcast at 9 a.m. more. I know. Yeah. You got us with our coffee, not our cocktail. I mean, we're drinking both right now.

Nice. Where are you guys at? Well, we're bellied up to the home bar from episode one. I got a bar in our office and we're bellied up to the bar we made in episode one. So we figured that for episode 197, we'd do something special and go back to the, you know. No, this is a result of Charlie's hectic schedule here. Yeah, I got a, I got to go to Florida for my tour, which you can get tickets at Charlie Barron's.com. I'm on tour right now.

We'll see you guys out there. Would you like that plug miles? Do you like that? That was pretty nice and organic. It was. Yeah, dude. Well, so we kind of gave you four or five approaches here. Which one do you think you're going to start with?

I like the music playlist idea. So I think I'm going to start with that. That feels, because we're already talking about music. yeah oh so you mean on the jukebox so you're gonna play on the jukebox okay let's go yeah I thought that was a long shot but there we go it just seems like so subtle and I'm already I'm already doing that behavior so I don't think it'd be out of I just start sliding in some yes I just got some sexy songs some movie sex scene songs I'm not doing I'm not doing Lion King I vetoed Lion King but well come on this is it Elton John that sings that song yeah that that song's erotic

dude and if you watch like the intensity. I can see what's happening. What? They don't have a clue. Ooh. Do the da da da da da da da da da da

da da woo woo. You you both need to open a karaoke bar. That might be ditch chickens. I think we can have carry the ditch chicken is going to be

the name of our bar. And, yeah, we'll have a karaoke section. We'll have a strobel. Nice. Or not a strobelight, a disco ball. Stroblight. It's a small town bar with a stroblight is the strange. A disco ball.

A disco ball is just fun to have, you know. You don't need it for karaoke, but it really brings the room together. It's like a rug. Yeah. All right. Cool. We're excited for you. We would love to get a bellied update from you.

knows how it went. Yes, please call us back. Yeah, that sounds great. That sounds great. I will decide if I'm going to pop this bubble and not be creepy and figure out what I'm going to do here. So I do appreciate to talk with you guys today and your advice. Ask her if she likes the band horseshoes and hand grenades. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure she does. I do. Oh, you like horseshoes? Nice. Yeah, I'm a big bluegrass fan myself. Oh, you are? Well, how do you not remember the bluegrass band? She told you she liked. Well, because there's a thousand bluegrass bands in the Midwest. I know.

Well, let's start writing them down. You're right. I need to be improved by listening skills, apparently. So, yeah. All right. Well, I get that. I ignore half the stuff, Miles says, and it shows. Yeah, I know how the bartender feels.

All right, dude. Well, we appreciate you calling in today. We're excited for you. We definitely want to get a bellied up. update to how it went and yeah you have a good day dude appreciate you both thanks a lot all right be good now what's that say about us charlie that he called in and we gave some pretty solid advice and he was shocked i mean it says that like it says miles that you know sometimes we just get a little a little rambunctious here you know we just uh yeah just we're using our

outdoor voices a little too much on this podcast we're just doing too much and i think i think his rich timber soft nice voice kind of disarmed us like what are we going to start talking shit to that guy yeah derr yeah he's sounds like such a nice guy sweetheart man you know but when you know guy comes in blazing hot you know we got to match the energy yeah yeah uh good good guy i hope it works out for him this is like this is like the premise of a of a midwest rom-com it really is honestly i feel like this is good like like um it like i like the serialized nature of this phone call because i feel like we could like do you understand miles this is my vision for eric right now in this bartender i'm feeling the connection and the way he's talking to her i think

it is a true thing and I think like babies could be started by this podcast and it just makes me feel so good you know just that we're putting this energy out into this world you know yeah sure Jared yeah you guys are both looking at me like I'm being silly goose but it's just a weird way to say like you're jacked because you're helping people get late you know yeah I mean you know but not just late I'm talking about souls fornicating man it's a different kind of thing miles so yeah again i mean you did tell him that he should do the the mufossa mount but well i mean but that doesn't mean that mufas is not like just you know it's not just a hard um uh thing there i mean lions they they they make love in and in sort of a different way than

humans you know it it's hard to get that lion deal into that other lion deal so they got to like it looks a little aggressive, but it's, it's, it's with love. It's like doggy style, but lion style. Lion style, you know, and those claws got to go somewhere. Okay. So, I mean, you can't change the anatomy of a lion, yet it still needs to reproduce. And what the fuck are you saying? What do you mean what the fuck I might say?

Go watch you. Why are you breaking down lion's sex right now for us? I think we got it. Well, if you got it, then why'd you ask? Well, should we take another caller? Let's do it, dude. Miles Deer Camp is here, man. You know, and the thing about Deer Camp is you got drive to Deer Camp.

And on the way to Deer Camp, boy, you better watch out for deer. You know? Like, because if you don't, you're in a wreck. And now all of a sudden, what do you do? You call Nicolay Law. Call Nicolay law. Nicolay, if you've been injured, he is there to get you by. Nicolay Law.

Because it's one thing, you know, to get injured on the way to deer camp. And it's like, don't add insult to injury here. No. Make sure you call. Then you can have that peace of mind so that maybe you could still get in that deer stand that weekend and know that Nicolay Law is going to be taken care of you. Yes. Don't add insult to injury.

Add compliment to injury. And boy, that is enough. Beard, isn't it, Miles? It really is. Nicolaylaw.com. Charlie, it's fall. And you know what fall means? Hoodies. Hoodies and pumpkin spice lattes, you know? Everyone's drinking that pumpkin spice stuff. Pumpkin spice stuff. Not us. No, not. No, not us. You know what we are drinking? A little tippy cow chocolate shake. Tipping on back to the tippy cowl. You know, I want to find a coffee shop that serves this because I've been putting this in my coffee.

from time to time, Miles. Not a bad move. A little after dinner decaf coffee with a little tippy cow. That way it doesn't keep me up, but it keeps me going. You know what I mean? That's right. And tippy cow, especially the chocolate shake, kind of a chocolate milk type vibe. It is chocolate milk. I love a good chocolate milk

in the morning on a fall day. The chocolate shake is smooth, satisfying, and a perfect companion for any fall activities. Miles, you're a perfect companion for me. Hey, it's nice that, oh God, that's my life. Like, it's nice that we could. And Charlie, you bet you that Tibby Cow is made with real Wisconsin cream. Oh, sure is.

Hey, speaking of real. Comes in a 750-millimeter bottle, so it's perfect for sharing, which we're about to do right now. We're about to do this at miles to that. Bring it to the tailgate or the bonfire. To that real. You can milk it for all it's worth. I like what you did there, Miles. Go on, Charlie, and have a cow.

Cheers. Cheers. Oh, you're real good at that. transposcibly tippy cow rum cream copyright 2025 Midwest custom bottling Milwaukee Wisconsin all rights reserved. Hello. Ava. Hey Charlie.

How are you doing? Good. How are you? Well, I'm good. I'm here with my buddy Miles. Miles. How are we doing? Good.

Do you hear that tonal shift between Charlie? It's like, hi, Charlie. What's on on, Miles? I get it. I get it. I'm aware. No, no, no. I mean, I've said it before.

I said it a million times. We and Charlie were a drunk at a bar in Green Bay and Charlie had gals hitting on them left and right and I had sweaty guys hitting on me left and right. It's the way the world works. They weren't hitting on you, Miles. They were asking you if you needed to go to a hospital after that edible you took. Oh, Lord. Miles was that state?

Yeah, okay. I spoke, yeah, they were doing CPR. I guess they weren't trying to make out with me. Hey, you never know. Stadium View Bar in Green Bay, New Year's Eve, 20, I don't know what. But they had these like Delta 8 edibles, which God only knows what's in them. They were, I think they were selling them in the bar. But I was like, hey, Miles, I got this, you want it?

And I was like, I wouldn't eat the whole thing. And it was gone. He ate the whole thing. so that was the night after that that was the night that was the night miles i mean that was a night you started uh working out intensely and that's the reason that the catalyst for the whole weight loss scenario it's not it's not ozempic it's a green bay edible yeah one packer game we'll do the trick that's that's one packer game is worth a thousand ozempics one pack a game probably cheaper too it's like well those stadium beers cost a lot so i don't know

forget the keto diet it's the packers versus vikings well just hang out with charlie barons and you're good so enough about us uh eva what's up with you oh not much i'm actually up here in chippewa Falls, Wisconsin in my childhood home. Yeah, I came up here back in September for a fishing trip and I haven't left yet. Yeah. Nice. How is that how are you even able to do that? Well, so we still have our child or my childhood home and we Airbnb it. And I've just been staying here. And also it helps when you don't have a. job yet. So, okay. So did you just graduate? I did. Yeah, I just graduated with my master's in business management, uh, from EU business school in Barcelona. Okay. Nice. Congratulations. Now, I don't

want to be the burst of a bubble here, but are you a little, uh, regretting that decision going for a master's considering you haven't found a job yet? Well, I've actually turned down a couple of jobs. So, oh. It's mainly just me trying to figure out exactly what I want to go into before I, you know, take the step in and then get sucked in and into something I can't get out of. So I've been applying to a lot of different stuff and, you know, get answers back and go through the process of the interviewing. And some of them I actually have gotten all the way through and I just, you know, say to myself, is this what I really want to do? So maybe it's me. maybe I have the problem. What do you really want to do?

Well, right now I've been like applying for medical sales positions. So like pharmaceutical or medical devices. And I was also looking into business development for clinical research companies and other stuff. I'm trying to stay in the medical field or the biology field because that's what I got my undergrad in. but we'll see nice well that that is really cool now how is your

your dad your mom how do they feel about you turning down the jobs in the meantime actually they like they don't mind to be honest I'm staying with them and I think they more

dismissed me a lot because I was gone for over a year in Spain so they're like you know what we'll figure it out and they also don't want me to really rush in anything if it's if it's uh not something you know worth doing yeah so your parents are enablers yeah i see what's going on here yeah because they you know there's that one there's that one midwest dad where if he heard you turned down in job you'd be like you turned it down huh why you don't like money huh i wouldn't eat your ass out of my room yesterday all right you go

back to them. You tell them you're sorry. All right. What's their name? Yeah, you got to start paying rent. If you're going to be here, you got to start paying rent. You think you're going to turn down jobs on my watch. Okay, you get over to that Denny's. You start flipping some freaking pancakes because these lights don't pay for themselves. You understand what I'm talking about? And also get out there and mow the goddamn lot. Yeah. Hey, they still have me doing that. Well, there you go. That's why they want you around. Yeah. Yeah, I do the heavy lifting here. There you go. No, I'm sure, I'm sure it's good.

And it's nice your parents get a little extra time with you. And, you know, life goes by fast. It's good to enjoy it, is the truth of it, you know? I'm lucky, I guess. Life does go by fast, Mom. Oh, it's a nothing statement, Miles? Okay. Yeah, life's long.

So you might as well just live it. Yeah. Well, you know, some would say that's good advice, Miles. not that that's a nothing statement. Some might say, oh, that's pretty profound. And I'll tell you that, Miles, because I'm a good friend. That's pretty profound. You can find that on like every Hallmark card.

No, not every Hallmark card, Miles. Just most. Okay. Ava, who's, God damn it. Whose side are you on, Ava? Get your ass out there. Get a job for Christ's sakes. You've been home long enough.

Barcelona. Colmose D. Say, get a freaking job. You have to cut him some slack. He just quit nicotine seven days ago. Yeah, I did. I am in a different freaking world, Eva. You got an upper decion right now?

How is it? You do? No, I wish. Wish. Hmm. Oh, well, Ava, what did you actually call in today? So the reason I called in today was because, you know, since the dawn of time, you have the men go and do deer hunting every year and the women stay home or actually

in my household when I was younger my mom and I would actually go on a little girl's trip but every year my dad and my brother and most of the Midwest go deer hunting and I've always wanted to go wow now the problem is because I'm like I'm a girl's girl but I'm also a tomboy a little bit and I like to do fishing. I like to hunt. I like shooting and, you know, I'm a mix of always. Yeah, like a true good Midwest gal. Yeah.

Exactly. Exactly. And I've always wanted to go. Now, that being said, I've had a lot of people that go in the group with my dad and brothers say, oh my gosh, yes, you should totally come. They've seen me shoot too and like, hell yeah, like get out here. Have dad bring you. you have grant bring you and i'm like yes yes for sure and i'll bring it up to my dad and it's just

kind of like uh oh yeah sure yeah you know yeah okay yeah let's you could totally come this year sure and then i never actually it's never like okay yeah you're coming let's buy the tickets let's get you the license let's do all this jazz it's kind of like uh mm-hmm yeah maybe let's yeah we'll we'll plunder that no yeah it's way easier this year though because there's no tickets to buy uh you don't need to buy a flight home for this you're already there and there so there there's no excuse this year so charlie let's put let's put ourselves in her father's shoes oh i already know what he's thinking you know it's like we already as men now have to go to fucking baby showers

you know like when did that start happening why did all of a sudden they start becoming men and women go to baby showers you know and now guys can't just do guys trip going hunting anymore

I'm not saying this is right I'm saying this is what your dad's thinking you know Miles let's be honest you're using this as a vehicle to just say what you're thinking. Well, it's like, would my wife love it if I was like, hey, I'm going to come with to your yoga class and hang out with you and your friends? Honestly, probably. No. There's no way. Really? I don't know. She would. I just, I've never, I've never asked that. Let me give Anna a call right now. I just put this to the test. You know, it's like, it's like why guys are like love going golfing with

their buddies. It's like their time to to just guys are primal creatures and they need that time to, they need that locker room vibe, you know? They need that's just guys being dude scenario and that's hunting and golfing

and stuff like that are like the way that they get that male bonding time. Now, I'm not saying it's necessarily right and you should be able to go hunting with your family but I'm saying that's probably what's going on. see i get that and i get that that that's like a time for them to like bond and all that but there is a woman that already goes up there with them is her name marge though is it is her name

pat is her name helga is her name madge you know is it one of those four cousin. Your cousin? Yeah. Her name's Megan, so a bit close on that. Probably Meg. Yeah. Have you ever watched Family Guy?

Meg. You know? Yeah. So the thing is now she's a bit older than me and she like brings her son. So they and my uncle, which is her dad also goes too. So she's been invited. for these past couple of years, five, maybe a little bit more seven years or so. Yeah.

And so that's what I don't get. Dude. It's like, why is she, why she gets the invite? And I've left out here to drive. Well, listen, it's not, you got to thank Meg because Meg, you don't know it yet, but she's like your Susan B. Anthony of Deer Camp. She is, she has opened the door that this is no longer just a guy. thing and that has lasted in this family for decades and decades and decades and it just hasn't

been questioned because it's what's been done but meg broke the freaking broke broke the uh the wood panel ceiling and now it is just it's she i guarantee you when meg went up there too she took the little sticky fly things hanging from the ceiling down and uh it's just a new world up there So I think you can go. I honestly, my hunch is this is the year you're going to get to go because there's no excuse of not needing to buy a ticket. There's no excuse of you're not, you have to work or anything like that. I mean, I think you're going this year, whether your dad likes it or not, you just stay on

his ass about it. Well, and I think you got to start like helping yourself out here, though, you know? You got to start, you know, what a guy's alike. You got to, when you're talking about Diron, you got to start making. some funny rack jokes. You know what I mean? You got to start with whipping out some locker room talk to know that you can hang with the guys, you know?

See, and that's where I had trouble the other weekend. We had this whole fishing trip, which I thought I was technically invited to, but I guess some people of the group didn't realize that I was going to be there. Uh-oh. What happened then? Oh, just a lot of like, you can't be doing that. that's too girly or stuff like that and I was like okay let me like fix my mind frame and try to act more like a guy and I don't know I guess I didn't really know what to say or I mean I'm I'm a

tomboy like I like to do all these activities and it's not like I'm not drinking beer and you know playing music loud and all that other stuff but it's kind of like a lot of comments of like no you couldn't be doing that you're that's too girly what are you doing I'm like let's drink bloodies. It's nine. And they're like, what? I'm like, what? Do you want to drink mimosa's or something? Like, I said, I didn't think Bloody Mary's was a girly drink or anything. But even so, so anyway, this weekend was like, I wouldn't say that it is. Yeah, I think, I think maybe you're, you're adding some fresh blood into the fishing trip. I mean, the way you're sounding. Here's, here's what it's, here's what I think is probably going on. You, you see yourself as

somewhat of a tomboy, but what they see is some fancy. college grad who just came hot off the press from Europe, you know? What were you getting fancy cappuccinos over there? What were you doing? Fucking eating, fucking oysters and French bread at 11 p.m., you know? What were you doing over there? That's what they see. Yeah, you got to stop calling it Bartholona.

Yeah. There's got to be like a Barcelona. like Wisconsin or Illinois or something, just say that's where you did it. Yeah. Did you call? Yeah, true. Yeah, like,

um, where would, there's a Paris, Iowa or something like that, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, that's exactly. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Barcelona, Indiana. Yes,

yes. Just tell him that's where you were. Um, so, well, I guess was it. How do I fix this then? Well,

like, like one. I think you're going to, I think you're going to have to start chewing. I think you're going to have to start dipping. Oh, that sounds so good. Getting Charlie gone. Because then they could be like, sorry, Charlie.

Because then they can be like, oh, wow, I didn't know she was chill like that. Okay, okay. So this is a real commitment. I really got to step into this. You need to get addicted to chewing tobacco, first off. secondly you got to start upping your alcohol tolerance and you need to really start drinking people on her table because there's nothing will disarm a guy more than being like oh god that that gal can drink me under the table like i got respect for her true you know it's true all right i mean you

could jeopardize your whole future but it's worth it what other ways can she fit in with the guys well i i'll give i'll give a few more sack taps you know oh yeah yeah locker room stuff yeah some sack just like some ass at back ass patch you know are you related to all the fellas here a good chunk of them i would say is there any um maybe don't sack tap your uncle but yeah that's what i'm thinking is there i don't know if i want a sack tack tap my uncle yeah i mean he'd respect it make no doubt he'd respect it you you go up there, just, just fake the sack tap. Just give them a little pump fake.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you won't be expecting it. Charlie does that to me on these bellied up stuff, trips. Like, he does that to me like once a day. Yeah. He pump fakes. I had a little pump fake sack tap. Got to keep them on his toes, you know.

Nice. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And, you know, I think the real thing is, is just say, like, you walk in and say, hey, I'll take the couch, you know? Okay. Because also, it's a sneak. move you don't want to be sleeping in the bunk beds anyway it's part sitting in there so give yourself

give yourself a little piece of mind yes the couch is going to smell like a fart but it's not going to be an active fart okay it's only going to smell like it when you warm it up with your body heat so another thing too to think about you start adding more people into the mix you know there's only so much land and only so many places to put up deer stands and there's only so many deer they're going to walk through at any given time. So then they're also thinking that there's another person that could be taking their trophy puck. Yeah, just adding any fresh body into a deer camp

comes with some questions. Because less sleeping room, less food on the plate. And again, more just another, more sound in the woods, you know, new smells in the woods. Yeah. You know? Yeah. All those things come into play.

But, you know, is there anyone in deer camp that you're not related to that, like, you can kind of like get some insight from, you know, that's not going to rat you out. Can you get someone on the, because what you need to do is find an ally in there. You've got to break through and you guys start fracturing the deer camp and get some of them onto your side. You know, you got to divide and conquer this deer camp. Mm-hmm. And that best works with bribery. Unfortunately, you don't have a job.

Yeah, there goes all my money. Yeah. But I would say, I would say so. And I mean, like I was saying before, like a couple of my uncles are like, hell yeah, come on up. Like, great shot, like fun, like more fun, more fun. But like you said, I mean, I could definitely find someone to start planting some seed and, you know, get.

them on my side turn them over yeah i mean what in your mind if you really had to just cut through all the bull crap what do you think is the main reason why your your dad and brother don't want you to come i think it's probably the bonding thing i think it's because it's so secret that uh i don't want to mess with the mojo since my brother was very little you know he's been taking them up there and I've been staying and spending time with my mom. So I think it's his

chance to just relax and not be around me or my mom and spend time with my brother Grant. Yeah. So your your brother's got daddy issues. Yeah. Maybe that's the angle. Just start

gaslight and your brother just started telling them that like wow i see you got some daddy issues you can't hang out you can't let me hang out with them wow yeah how old are we dude we're we're in our 20s now um does dad need to help you feel dress your dear oh that's so cute oh does you need to help you cite in your rifle you're white you're what you're with a wifle too quick that way oh oh Do you need him to bring you some snacks? There you go. There you go, Ava. Oh, yeah, just start, yeah, just start ripping into your dad and brother.

Be like, oh, like, oh, you clearly he's still on the teat, but the male teat, which doesn't make any sense because they're useless. He's on the meat. Can't even get any milk out of that teat. Yeah, you get a few good ribbons in there, Ava. your dad's going to think you're the you're the son of the family you got to take the alpha dog status okay oh who take a step up let's hear the bark eva oh no come on that's a dog yeah all right good oh all right and um smell what you're stepping in if that don't work that don't work you uh you shoot bow Okay, go get a bow, start doing that because you got bow season.

Because look, we're giving you our best advice. There's a good chance that's never going to work out for you, Ava. But if you start, if you get a bow and you start going bow season, you know, I mean, the season starts earlier. You can get a bigger buck. And then that's something that your brother can't do it. And also, I think it's a harder way to shoot a deer and you might get some points. You might kind of like get elevated to deer camp if you're starting to get bucks during

bow season you know okay uh see we don't have bow season down in florida oh fuck you're in florida go hunt an alligator then geez yeah go hunt a boa constriction constrict you know what i'm trying to say he's a week off of nicotine cond yeah yeah i can't talk python damn oh we're in florida i i could have told me that she was in wisconsin this whole time i know yeah i know and now the bar I mean, I am in Wisconsin right now. Yeah, she's, dude, she's in. Wait, you guys go to Florida to hunt deer? No, no.

I live in Florida. No, you, I'm up here in Wisconsin. Got it, got it. We all live in Florida, but we have a house up here, like my childhood home, I told you. And we still have it. So we came up here and I just don't have a job. So I didn't buy a ticket home. Well, now I do have a ticket home, but it's not for a car.

couple of weeks deer camps in florida though no they live in florida deer camps in wisconsin well same okay okay okay i get it i get okay stay in wisconsin start bow hunting in wisconsin whatever yeah fuck i got so confused charlie i want to do one more thing i want to see if she can hang with the guys at deer camp oh you and i uh you be her dad i'll be your brother all right and um we're You know, this is like the night before we're, like, going out to the deer camp and we're just sitting around, you know. I'm scratching my nuts right now. You know, oh, God. Hey, you want to grab me another beer?

You want to grab me another beer? Uh, hey, dad. Yeah, okay, sis, relax. I know you're kind of a lightweight. Hey, dad, I was at, uh, the bus stop. Yeah. You know, the bar in town. the other day and the

bartender was told. Will you hurry it up? The bartender was totally sending me doomy vibes. Right? Yeah, you wish. You wish, Grant. Tell her, you could never. Tell her. Yeah, tell her. This son of mine's a Sally, I tell you.

Dad, she's being mean to me. Do you think he's got daddy issues, Eva? Huh? Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. Come on, Grant. Big Sally over here. Hey, hey, I know. I know. I don't. Yeah, well, tell us about that bartender, Grant. Well, she's, yeah, she's hot.

I'll grant you she didn't have a damn interest in you. Listen to your sister, all right? I've been here for how many years. Why don't you go get both of us a beer? How does that sound? Hustle your ass. Yeah, I'm thirsty over here. God damn it.

You know what, Ava? I was thinking, should we do beer or what do you think about Bloody Mary's? Dad, what? Shut the hell up, Grant. You think vodka's for wussies. Ava changed my mind. She got me drink them at nine in the morning. I'm seven sheets to the wind.

Hell yeah. You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning. Shut up, Eva. Grant, why are you still here? Suck my dick. You had to show up and ruin this whole thing. Why don't you go back to Barcelona and eat your cappuccinos? Why don't you fly back to Florida, Grant?

Did you just tell your sister? what I think you just told you sister I don't know what you think this family is but we're not insidious Daddy get the hell out of here remember we're on the same team here we were on the team before you miss that buck this morning what the hell was going on there

you're lucky I don't pull that beer out of your hand you can't you're seeing two deer shooting for the mill one you miss god damn it but daddy don't daddy me right now that's for later oh god what kind of family are you in

oh yeah we're trying your brother's telling you to suck his dick and now your brother's hooking up with his dad your dad what the hell's going on oh god this is this did not go as well as Clint yeah see you kind of felt like the bullets were flying

there weren't you yeah that's what it's going to be like you know you just got to be prepared, Eva. I mean, look, do you want us to take you to the gym and just have you do stretching? No, we're putting the weights on the rack here, Ava, all right? This is called resistance training here.

Yeah, if you're out in the woods and a tree falls on, you want to be able to push that tree off you or you want to just die under the tree. Yeah, definitely not die under the tree. Well, and then you just buckle up, Buttercup, all right? Sorry, I'm still in the dad character. no this is good Ava I think I think we gave you some good advice here which is gas lighter in the thinking we gave her good advice that was good wasn't it it was right that was great I mean the improv was top tier yeah thank you your brother's got some issues man I can't believe he's gonna hear this and he's

gonna be like what the fuck how did I become the one with all the issues Would Grant say you got the issues, Ava? I don't have any issues, but I don't think he has that many issues. He doesn't have that many issues. So you just building them up to be, why'd you say you had daddy issues, Eva? No, no, no, no, you guys said. No, real, you signed the tape. You said that, Ava, about your brother.

You said that about your brother. I did not. Yeah, Grant, Grant, keep listening to us. Your sister is the one. So it sounds like he has daddy. issues because of what you said yeah but you he didn't just pull that out of thin air he didn't just pull that out his his rum pole no you you said it and he's just putting you can't put a bunch of pieces on the table expect miles not to put the puzzle together all right all I said was that that

was their time to go do whatever they want and go hunt and I guess yeah that just sound like it sounded too sweet that was we just put on a master class of gaslighting right there that was yeah she just she just admitted yeah that does sound like i said that yeah we want you're we are toxic miles you and i like play the brittie song toxic masculinity in the morning let's fucking go charlie and this is what you're going to get at deer camp you know you just got another lesson right there. Did you take notes there? Did you know we were doing that? We slided another lesson in there. You're going to have to listen back to this episode, Ava. I really am. Yeah. I'm falling behind here. Yeah, sure are. I shouldn't have left. I shouldn't

have graduated. I need to go back to school. You should have been a boy is what's the moral of the story. Yeah. If you wanted to get invited to Deer Camp, you've got to go back to the womb and and find you think your, yeah, yeah. Get yourself. another or different chromosome, right? Isn't that how it works out? Yeah, yeah. That's a biology major. She knows.

Oh, yeah. That's right. X and Y. X and Y. Yeah. Go find you go get a time machine. Go get an X. All right.

Oh, why. Yeah. Oh, why? Why is this the case? She already has an X. Everyone's got an X. Oh, well, I, what the fuck do I know? Anyways, um, you keep her moving,

Ava, all right? And watch for deer out there. for sure. Hopefully I will be. An alligator. Mm-hmm. Well, thank you guys. I appreciate you taking the time to help me. We gave you the playbook. You have to let us know if they let you go.

And, yeah, all else fails, just start ripping into your brother for having daddy issues. And I think you're going to be just okay. Rippin and gripping. Rippin and gripping. Yeah. All right. All right.

Well, thank you guys. I appreciate it. Yeah. Cheers, Eva. See ya. Hey, cheers. Tell your folks I says hi. Oh, and do watch for them, dear.

Yeah, and make sure you change your air filters. Yeah, I would do that today. Oh, oh, shit. Okay, I'll do that. All right, real good. Real good. I like that change your air filters, Miles. It's really rolling off your tongue now.

It feels natural. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. She was nice, man. I think that call went as good as it possibly could. I mean, we did it way more work than we should have. know we were yeah we should send her a bill for what she just did yeah therapy sessions over here by gosh by gosh by golly okay uh well miles is that that another episode here that's another solid

episode here at the og bar who who episode 178 what a great what a great episode no nicotine miles what a great episode to bring back the original bar such a milestone yes it is and it's folks, we are all about celebrating the big monumental moments here on the bellied up podcast. So you just got to stay in tune to next week for what we bring to 178. So guys, thanks for tuning in. Remember to tip your bartender and we'll see you in the next one. Bye. Okay, hope you guys have a good one.

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