Bellied Up - Our First Ever Bellied Up BEEF #201

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

We’re back at Charlie’s lake cabin playing a fun “getting to know you” game. Our first caller is Josh, who gives us a "Bellied Up" update. Josh first appeared in our “Bellied Up Live: Milwaukee” episode; he lets us know how his dating life is going and sparks a new beef with a certain fellow caller. Next, Russell from Nicolet Law drops in, followed by Thomas, who calls in to chat about his concrete business. We also listen to a voicemail from a gal with a great Midwest accent, and then we wrap things up by writing nice letters to each other.Go to shadyrays.com and use code belliedup for 50% off 2+ pairs of polarizedsunglasses. #adTimestamps:0:00 Intro17:54 Josh Bellied Update01:07:25 Thomas Concrete

Folks. Welcome back. Welcome back. The Bellied Up. My dad actually did listen to an episode of the Bellied Up podcast and he said, you start every episode with Welcome Back. Yeah, that's kind of what we do. Why you didn't like that?

He just called me to give me a shit one day. He was bored. When he gets bored driving, he calls his kids. And he must have been really bored because then he listened to one of his kids' podcasts. okay well let's do what do you want how do you want okay let's see let's try it out for mr barons here try out a different opening yeah okay so we'll scratch welcome back what do you want to do now it's the bellied up podcast with your host charlie barons and miles you folks how we doing nice i like it again miles got a little game for you to play here

All right, let's see it. We were going to open this game before we started, and Chuck wanted to open it live. An unboxing. Welcome. Why do people do that? What's this game called? It's called We're not really strangers here.

We're not really strangers. Look at this. Opening it with a packers, a knife. Like a cooking knife for those who can't here. Oh, yeah. So what is this game? It says in the back. do you really know you i found this by the way in your game drawer over there oh i was wondering why

you've okay so so i've actually brought this so funny he's like i have the same one did you guys bring that no this is yours by the way i don't know why we have this i think dude daddy might have brought it when he came but the oh yeah we did it for a sketch but this card game miles when i was uh dating this card game was popular and i went on a few different dates with a few different and this card game always came out. And it was like, this card game is just made to get you in trouble. You know? Oh, that's what we're doing.

Okay, so there's levels here. Okay, this is way more than I bargained for. Oh, it's fun. You want to start with level one, level two, or level three? We should probably start with level three. What is this the final card? We'll go connection here. Some of these, okay, you open them up.

Yeah, so some of these questions, I remember playing. I was like, we don't, I don't know you that well. Why are we having this conversation, you know? You'll. I wanted to open this before we did this. Oh, well, you know what, Miles, you know, you slamming that microphone on the table is really good radio. My dad's going to like that. Cut away from yourself.

Cut away from what? Cut away from yourself. Well, then I'd be cutting away from both of us, you know. All right. You're right. Sometimes you're right, Miles. all right so you ask me a question I'll ask you a question

it'll be good okay shuffle Charlie yeah has you ever told someone I love you but didn't mean it if so why see what I mean see what I mean

it's like have you ever told me that what are you more afraid of failure success that's lame um wild card swap seats with your partner swap seats shit we can do that Let's see how warm your butt is.

All right. That was easy. Okay. What are you still trying to prove to yourself? This is very serious. You should have started on level one. All right. Based on what you learned about me,

does my social media accurately reflect who I am? Why or why not? I would say yeah, actually, Chuck. Yeah? Because the biggest tell, do you remember, you were actually in this cabin? Uh-huh. And I called you just to say good night.

Yeah, yeah. that video we posted. Yeah, I do remember that. And I had Anne record our conversation. Yeah. And the amount of people that have come up to me and said, I watched that video. And they go, so he's really fucking like that. What was I doing in that video? Just being Charlie Barron's. He's like, he's not doing a schick. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know. It's an acquired taste for some. But thanks, Miles. And, oh, here we go. This one is this one's good. Okay, okay. What is the last thing you lied to your mother about?

Last thing I lied to my mom about. Oh, that's good. Probably what did I talk to her about last? No, I'm teasing. I'm teasing. I probably might have said, uh, uh,

uh, free, yeah, hmm, when I, because I've been more truthful with my mom as in my later years. Okay. You know,

I've stopped, um, I'll say the last thing. think she wished I lied to her about. Well, no, I don't want to bring that up on this podcast. Just go to the next card. This is rapid fire game. Oh, sorry, sorry.

Okay, okay. How do our personalities compliment each other? Hmm. I would say that I... Thunder and lightning. I am, uh, I'm the rougher grid of sandpaper and you're the finer grid of sandpaper. I like it. I like it.

That's probably a good way to describe you and I. Miles, I was on a plane, sitting next to some bowlers, and I did not know this, but they use 5,000 grit sandpaper on their bowling balls. And I felt this sandpaper because me, you know, I like my way around, you know. This is on a plane?

Yeah. They're sanding their balls on a plane? These are professional bowlers. And I says, you know, I got, like, I know, like a nice 80. You know, that's you a nice 80, but then maybe a 220, $5,000. And he had $1,000, $2,000. You have to buy them at specialty stores. Wow.

But they're sanding their balls. And that's how you get the good spin. All right, let me give you one. Do you believe everyone has a calling? If so, do you think I've found mine? Um, sure. Everyone's got a calling. All right, your question.

But think about like, in terms of calling, I feel like, All right. So what if I was born in an uncontacted tribe? Would my calling still be podcasting? Probably not. Right. So I think calling is subject. I think we make up our own calling. You'd be the storyteller. You'd be the guy BS and around the campfire if you needed fires in that place. Yeah, probably true. Yeah, probably true. That one's lame. Wildcard admit something. That one's lame. Based on what you learned about me, what? What book would I, never mind.

What question are you trying to answer most in your life right now, Chuck? What question am I trying to answer most in my life? You know, what's our purpose, my God, what's going on here? I mean, you could have just said what's going on with my deck and why did they do it like that? That would have been funny. All right, yours, create your own question, make it count. Come on, dude. What?

That's why. That's literally why I got this game. So I didn't have to think. Give your partner, that's me, a compliment you don't think they hear enough. Chuck, you do a good job of making everyone feel comfortable around you. Thank you, dude. Thank you. Appreciate that.

Chuck, what would your younger self not believe about your life today? The fuck is a podcast. Oh, I already said this one. Swap a song suggestion. Your partner may enjoy. I don't want to do that right now. Just set it down and pick them up. Don't hold them in your hand.

Don't tell me what to do. God damn. All right. What do you think I fear the most? Your dad not being proud of you. Well, that's already true, Miles. Come on. I'm kidding. I think he's proud.

That's your biggest fear. But that is true. Is that your biggest fear? What's your biggest fear? Miles. I'm not good enough. Oh, well, shit. Okay, here we go, Chuck. This is ours. What? Wild. This is a wild card.

Wild card. Sing the chorus of your favorite song of all time. We got to get into it, it says. Oh. And I will raise you up on heagles wings. The brittle line Make you to shine like the sun And hold you in the palm

Of his hands What title would you give this chapter of your life, Chuck? The Big Deck chapter. There we go. Big deck energy. Big. What is a compliment

you wish you received more frequently? Hey, you did a good job on this. Deck. Well, that one sucks.

Okay, what would be the perfect gift for me? What would be the perfect gift for you? Yeah. Oh,

just anything outdoorsy. Okay. Nice. Real specific. What do you think our most important similarity is?

most important similarity. We are very perceptive. Therefore, we can point out stuff that's true that is funny. Observational. Very good. Observational. Very observant of you.

That one's weird. What can we create together a baby? Based on what you know about me, do you have any Netflix recommendations? Lame, dude. Lame. if you have Charlie when was the moment you realized you weren't invincible I just noticed that like all these are about me and all those are about me you know like I'm I'm saying what do you admire most about me and you're talking about you you you must have the you pile you must have the you pile we're supposed to be pulling from the same pile this is an ego trip here these are all me's you know level three is all about me that's that's how you get into trouble. I'll give you some needs. I'm not

cheering. You're not sharing shit, dude. We should have read the directions. All right here. I'll swap. And then this says final card, dude. We're going to open that thing in a second. At the end of the episode. We're not really strangers, folks. If you have never played, if you're just joining us right now, what was your question you asked? But here, this is, I just pull one from your pilot says if you were in a band, what would your name be? Oh, maybe I skip all the ones about you. If I was in a band, my name, I was in a band. It was called Your Project Y-O-R-E, music of your.

Embarrassing. All right. Mine would be Smokestack envy. Oh, how, Smokestack envy. I like that. When's, when in this game did you feel most connected to me, Chuck? When you told me that you're not enough. If you, if you have when was the.

moment you realized you weren't invisible. That's the one I... Oh, Invincible. I just read that one. When I fell off my bike, I got a scar. I can show you right here. That was supposed to be for me. Oh, well, you asked me at first, and then you were laughing, so I ask you the same question,

Miles. What do you admire most about me, Chuck? I'm glad to ask, Miles, I admire that you're a little Buddha, you know? Miles likes to put. pontificate on the on the the the high level you know miles you're the guy if we're on the titanic you're the guy up there looking to see where that iceberg is and sometimes on occasion you hit the iceberg and you say yeah we really put a hole in that one but you're you're the very matter-of-fact guy you know and you you see things from high level and uh sometimes you see them in time

and you veer. And other times you hit it and you just take it head on, you know? But the Titanic took it in the side. But if it took it head on, it would have, you know. But that's it. No, it was better. If it took it head on, it would have...

No one would have survived. Yes, everyone, the problem was they side-slash and got that big old hole in the boat. Oh, so you're saying that would have just gotten just... And so... Smaller hole if it hit it straight on. Yes. And so what I admire about you is you take it all head-on

and you get a smaller hole. All right, Chuck. Yeah. I found a card for our parting words before we talked to some callers. Okay. This is a reminder card. And I want you to remember this

during this episode, okay? Yeah. Reminder, be more interested in understanding others than being understood. Damn. And with that, we're going to talk to some callers. after you show me the first photo in your camera roll and explain it. We'll see if...

And while you do that, actually, at the end of the show, folks, it's a deep tease, so you stay till the end. We are going to open the final card. This is the first photo of my camera roll. Let me see it. This is flops, a guy I used to work with. Flops, you were just talking about him today. Look how red his skin is.

It's that red all the time, even in the middle of the winter. It's easy, yeah, I don't know how it's still letter. Is it from the son or from, Also, at this time I took this photo, he was like 45 years old. Are you kidding me? Holy smokes. Flops has aged like a fine cheese, man. This is my second one.

Oh, dude, show the camera that. Jersey Day at when I was working concrete. That was my old AAU basketball jersey in like seventh grade. Here's my question, dude. Are you wearing, are those the original hey dude? No, those were Sunuck shoes. Do you remember those? But yeah, they... Sunuck walks so hey dudes could run.

And I also don't recommend running in Hey dudes, but... Yeah, those are... That's a nice shirt. That's your A-A-U shirt, huh? Jam? What? We were the Jam boys. The Jam boys? Our coach was initials with J-A-M. Oh, okay.

I got asked to be on a team. I didn't... Don't shy away from it. We all know you name it. RIP to him. He passed away. Oh, what was his name? John. You just said it.

Be more interested in others than yourself. See, we're learning. John. Cheers to John, huh? Cheers to John. All right. I'm drinking your beer. You're drinking mine.

That's fine. What's this black shit in the beer? All right. So should we take some callers? We already went through that. Hey, hey, when we take some callers? Let's ask him one. question we're we're but we're gonna sneak it okay okay and we the audience those are the most lame

ass ones we got we just just pick off the table you know you have to pick a card for me to sneak in and i have to pick one of yours okay all right okay okay i like this similar to the dollar game we did that one is yeah uh all right there's some real good ones here Oh, God. This is the one that you have to. Okay. All right. Hang on.

But don't, don't reveal to the audience what the question is until you read it for real in the call. No, no, no. I think it's funnier, Miles, if we,

because then the audience. So we do want to reveal it. We do want to reveal it. I want to read the one you give me and you, because the one you're reading. Okay, okay. All right.

Okay. This is the one. mix together. This is the one you're reading. Okay. All right. So Miles, the question you gave me is, what's the most pain you've ever been in that wasn't physical? Fuck. Mine is, how would you describe the feeling of being in love in one word? God damn. God damn. All right, all right. And you. And, you. And, you know, you got to it's got to come across as casual yeah no laughing so what we got two we got two callers to to accomplish and you have to ask it and at the end of the show we're going to read the

final card that's in uh you got the final card all right but you can you can't you cannot reveal that you're asking a card game from no no yeah yeah okay all got it let's go we talking to jared wouldn't tell us what we're talking to is we're going to this blind i don't blame him because Charlie's going to want to shoot me again. Oh, oh. Wait a second. I think I know who this is. Yeah?

Yeah. I do. Miles, remember our live podcast in Milwaukee? Yeah. Yeah, remember the fellow that wanted to date your sister? Date my sister. My God.

My God. This is great. This is great. All right. Well, tell the folks, Chuck, what happened then? All right. So we're doing a live podcast. Cast Bellied Up Live in Milwaukee.

Be on the lookout. We'll do it again here in the future. Shout out to the BUL. The Bull. The Bull. 986, the Bull. Continue on with the story. Anyways, was it Josh?

Yes. Josh. Josh came on. How do you like that? I remember your name Josh. Does that make you? I'm impressed. Well, no,

not really. Because you did kind of want to shoot me. So I think you remember. I didn't want to shoot you, man. Josh, to make you feel better, Charlie gave us a tour of his cabin in his woods and we came across his axe throwing session and he had

placed it a photo of you out there and he's pretty accurate with those axes by the way continue on what happened well Josh came on and he said oh he wrote this question Charlie is your sister single I want to date her something to that effect and then Josh came up on stage and I proceeded to grill him

like a flank steak or maybe a dry rug. Doesn't matter. Keep going. And we found out landscaper, right, Josh? You had your own landscaping business. Yeah. No, I didn't have my own business. Okay, that's right. I said if you did, that would have been better, perhaps.

You wanted me and all your grandma's lawn and I didn't want to. Oh, yeah, Josh. Yeah, why are we having Charlie give this recap? Josh, you finish the recap for us. us please well i i i remember it the other way i think i grilled charlie a little bit more but um i uh charlie well i spent about 10 minutes just hammering charlie which i don't think which i don't think started everything off well i don't think that piss me off in some way and it wasn't just that you wanted to date my sister there was something oh definitely that you you i said i worked landscaping and

you said that you used to mow lawns and I said that I don't mow lawns and I we are not the same yeah like don't don't compare me to that oh that's right yeah you were and then we called your sister live right we yes and then charlie facedined Ellie yep and she tried to hook you up with a friend keep your name out your mouth and so is this a bellied update on you and the friend Kind of. Okay. That's part of it. All right.

Well, let's get into it. Also, it's not much of an update. I want to say back when I was doing lawns, we didn't know that, you know, I didn't know the full professional, but I was landscaping, okay? I was doing, I was doing bushes. I was, I was sorting yarn if someone had yarn. You know, I was doing a lot of stuff.

Okay. So I, I was trimming trees. That just shouldn't bother me that much. I picked dandelions for one woman and made dandelion wine at the age of 11 and a half. Okay. In her basement, I was stomping dandelion heads making that wine. All right. So I don't want to hear you bitch.

All right. Fine. Is that a real story? That's an absolutely real story. Dude, every episode, she let me drink it too. Every episode, you think you've heard every story from Charlie. And then he whips out a stomping dandelion wine in the bottom of some. girl's basement she was not a yeah she was mrs grotti rest in peace she made you got to remember he's

39 he's got and you're right is josh josh we're not off on a good i thought we all right all right you know what let's hear it josh let's hear this bellied update i'm gonna suck it in well it's truly not much of an update not a whole lot i happen well that's because this is a podcast yeah i know i'm sorry, but I do have other stuff to share. Okay, good. So, well, I will tell you what happened. I, I message her on your sister on Instagram the next day. Nice.

I said, hey, if you were serious, I would love to talk to her. She said, of course I was. Here's her Instagram. So I added her on Instagram. She followed me back. And we talked for maybe a week or so. and then it kind of just fizzled up and didn't do it going where it wasn't very exciting

well she has a boyfriend did she tell you that your sister your sister yeah I know I know that I'm not talking about your sister I wasn't paying attention my bad my bad Charlie's where is that card I was trying to follow the story if we rewind I think we lost the card all reminder be more interested in understanding others

than being understood I was not trying to be understood I was trying to understand him, dude. I was trying to clarify the story. I should read the card. Okay, fine. That's a good reminder. Sorry, Josh. So you do you do?

So it fizzled out? What do you want? Read us. I mean, exchanges. I'm not going to do that. I actually don't think I have them anymore because we are not, we don't follow each other anymore, so I don't think I have them.

You unfollowed her? I think she unfollowed me. Oh, yikes. Brutal. I don't remember. You're just taking L after L after L. Damn. out.

You got to be, you got to be in some pain, man. Yeah, was that painful? Not really. At the time, it was pretty like,

that was like probably the fifth time in as many months that that happened. Oh. With a girl, like, it was kind of the same thing over and over again. That is some pain. Josh. At the time,

like eventually I realized that I was doing things very wrong when it came to these girls. What do you, what were you doing? doing wrong. So I for some reason had this mindset of trying to talk to them and get to know them and then ask them out, which is like completely asked backwards. Yeah. I have since learned that that that's the whole point of a date is to try and get to know them. So trying to do that beforehand, they just get bored of the conversation and then just, you know, don't talk to anymore.

Yeah. And that's kind of what I had done with Ellie's friend was. You should or get off the pot. Yeah. And, you know, so it's like, you know,

I realized it was, it was me. I was the problem, you know, kind of thing. Nice. Very mature. But I,

I've since learned my lesson. I, that has changed. And that's part of another thing I wanted to share with you guys. Yeah. So I'm still single, but. We know.

After, well, So that was, what, August last year? Yeah. And then in October, I finally got to go on a date. Hey! Let's go. Josh, all right, man.

Was the first date in three years. Wow. Yikes, that is painful. It must have been painful. Josh, quick aside, quick aside before we go down this date. And this is an interesting, an interesting way of looking. but what is the most pain you've ever been in that wasn't physical? Oh, boy.

Honestly, I, so I'm a volunteer firefighter. And we had a member, we had a line of duty death on our department. Damn. That was probably the. Damn. What was his name? It was she. Her name was Amy.

Amy. Shout out to. Amy. Shout out to all of our firefighters out there. Hey, Josh, shout out to you getting out there. That is tough work, man. And, um, yeah. So, Josh, because we got to, we just got to address this real quick. No, no, no. Okay. All right. For John. All right. That's what Amy would want. You're right. You're right. Amy would want us to forge on. Shout out to Amy. Thanks for sharing that. Not where I expected that question to go. No, that's why I was. Hey, that was shout out. It's all right. That's life. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. So you got one on this date. What happened?

The date. So the date was good. The day was good. We went mini golfing in October when it was like 15 degrees. But no, it was inside. So it was inside. So this was in this was in, this was in, uh, in Ashg. gosh. God, they got a lot of shit over an Ashkosh, indoor and golf? Yeah. Is it at the holiday inn? No, it's the place is kind of a dump. Well, shout it out, dude.

And we got to get a problem. I don't even know what it's called. I think it's called the dump. The dump. Yeah. But it's glow in the dark. And yeah, it's kind of a dump, which I didn't realize when I had never been there before when I invited this girl there.

Yeah. Can I also say glow in the dark, dark mini golf for a first day? is a little bit. Okay, Charlie, don't even. I mean, anyways, let's keep going.

So the date was good. And then we sat in my car after and talked for probably two hours. Wow. Wow. Use a lot of gas. Yeah. You're just watching your bank account drain by the moment. Yeah.

And then. we went and got ice cream at Culvers. This is so cute. And then... It's custard, by the way. You're really... Oh, Jesus. Anyway.

Come on, John. I'm being specific, man. What? I'm trying to be more interested. Yeah, I know. And understanding. More interested in understanding others than being understood, Chuck.

Sorry, Josh. Josh, I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. So, and then eventually when Calver's close, I took her back. So she went to school in Ashkosh.

So I took her back to her dorm, dropped her off, and that was the night. Then this was a Thursday. So then the Saturday after that, which I was surprised she came back to me only two days later. But she invited me to her dorm because her roommate was out. And she said, want to come over, watch a movie, whatever.

I said, sure. I went up to a dorm and we watched, we're the Millers. Great movie. Fantastic. Great movie. I had never seen that movie at the time. Oh, God. Great movie.

So tough movie to have on in the background if things start getting hot and heated. Yeah, because you kind of want to know what happens next. We'll get there. I cannot have the office going when. We'll get there too. There's more steps to this. Okay. Miles.

So. You're right. So we watched this movie. When the movie was over, it was probably like 10.30. And she said something along the lines of that. She's like, oh, I feel bad because you have a long drive home. It's not that long. I live north of Fondelak.

It was only like 20 minutes. But she said, oh, you got a long drive home. I was thinking of myself, like, well, it's not really that long. but here's my opportunity. I said, well, I don't have to go home. And she's kind of looked at me. She's like, okay. So I spent the night with her in her dorm.

Oh, it's getting hot in here. Holy smokes. I really hope my mom doesn't listen to this. And also, Charlie, I want you to think about that in an alternate universe, this could be he could be talking about your sister. You know what, Miles? I'm trying to be more interested. in understanding others than being understood.

Thank God it was my sister. All right. So, so I hope my mom's not going to listen to this, but she does know I'm calling in. Uh-huh. But she does not listen to the podcast again. My brother does,

so he is going to hear this, but I think he already knows. Okay. So I spent the night there and then, which I got to say, sleeping in a twin-sized mattress, two feet from the ceiling with another person is not easy. I don't know.

I have no idea how Jared shared a twin bed with his girlfriend. It's not easy. It's not easy. And then, so yeah, I slept like absolute shit. You slept? Yeah, I did. Somehow. And then in the morning, I woke up at like probably 7.30, which is,

on a random Saturday that there's Sunday morning that's not normally happening. And I, that was, that was it. I was up. I was awake. And she's still asleep. I'm like, well, shit, what the hell do I do now? And, uh, God, what'd you do? I didn't do anything.

I legitimately, I probably sat there. I scrolled on my phone a bit and stared at the ceiling until eventually she kind of sort of half woke up. There you go, oh, hey, sleepy half. Yeah. So she was like, face. So she kind of turned over towards me. I was wondering when you were going to wake up.

And so, you know, I did the usual. Oh, how'd you sleep? Blah, blah, blah. And, you know, all this and that. And then we started making out. Wait, you didn't make out the night before? No. This was 8 o'clock on a Sunday morning.

So you just waited for your breath to be stanky? Yes. I waited for my Sunday morning breath. Should have been in church, but instead I'm in this random chick's dorm room making out of there. Wow. Okay.

Call it, yeah. There you go. And how did it, again, this could have been your sister. How was your breath? I can't imagine it was good. How was hers? I don't really remember anything. So it can't be,

so it couldn't have been bad. And this was your first kiss in three years. This was my first, like, legit kiss ever. Whoa. Wow. Miles, you're stepping on my microphone cord. Whoa. Damn.

Nice, dude. So, okay. Here's, I mean, sounds like you're in love. Well, I thought so, maybe. I don't know. How would you describe the feeling of being in love in one word? I, I can't. wasn't in love. So I have

I can't I wouldn't say I've ever been in love. So I have no idea what it's like. So you fucking lied to me now or what? It was it's a podcast, Miles. It's not. But if you had to describe the feeling of being in love in one word, what would you say? I think it's got to be like heaven. Let me just tell you this. That's my best, that's my best guess. I have no idea. Heaven on earth. Heaven. Heaven. That's his best guess. But Miles, what we have to understand is he doesn't have to be interesting. We just have to be more interested in understanding

him than being understood our city. I agree with that. So, I agree. It's a great reminder. How long was the makeout session? Um, I would have to say that part went on for, I don't know, 10 minutes, maybe. Was there a little tons? A little tons. hockey? Was there any heavy petting going on? Well, I mean, yeah. Well, so there's more to the story. Okay, let's go ahead and tell the story, but you've got to move it faster. I don't need the details that you woke up.

I'm trying. We know that you woke up. Miles? Be more interested in understanding others than being understood. Exactly. And then eventually we kept. going and I lost my virginity.

Whoa. Whoa. I mean, congratulations. I was going in unexpected places here. I mean, my head. How was that unexpected? How was that unexpected? I thought I was hinting at it pretty well. Well, I mean, I mean, I guess now I think about it,

I didn't know I was real. I didn't realize we were getting that how I lost my virginity story. I didn't know that either. You know? I mean, this is a story that are you... So you lost your virginia is someone you don't even love? Huge, huge. Yeah, I'm not exactly. I'm not exactly...

Have you repented on that? Jeez, Louise. Are you... Miles. Miles, I need you to grow up a little bit here. All right. Okay? I need...

Josh is spilling out his heart for us. and yeah you know i'm not exactly proud of it why you're not proud of it it's a fine fine enough story you know no but i i've so okay so before this you know like i said it was first time in three years i ever even been on a date i had only ever had one quote unquote girlfriend before and it was just a high school relationship that was like a month long so you know i i have told myself for a long time that I would be strong enough, I guess, in a way, or to have the willpower to not do that when given the opportunity. Catholic, huh?

No, Lutheran, sorry. Oh, you guys don't have rules. What do you mean? You guys are Catholic, like, dude. We have them. We just don't follow them. Oh, yeah. Well, same with Catholic.

You might be Catholic. That should be the new game. Oh, never mind. Um, anyway, sorry, Josh. Like I said, I've told myself for a long time that like I would be able to resist that and not do that because I feel like there's really nothing good to come from it. It will really, it won't, it won't, if anything, it'll only end poorly.

There's really no super huge benefit to it. And then I got the opportunity and I did it. And I, I, yeah, I mean, practice is a lot different than game reps, you know? Yeah, and that's just what I, that's why I say is like, I'm not exactly proud of it because I told myself for how long that I wasn't going to do that, and then I did. But I think you're finding out a truth about human nature, you know?

Yeah, I suppose, but. Well, it's in the past now. Yeah, it's over six months past it. So have your thoughts fermented a bit on the situation, or are you still feeling, have you kissed a girl since? No, haven't even been on a date since. Oh, gosh, Josh, what are we going to do with you, my guy? It's all right.

Well, I'll be all right. Now, do you still have the guilt of it, it feels like? Not, I wouldn't, I don't know if I'd say that because the thing I think about, you know, I feel like it's, I need to be honest with myself and ask myself if I had the opportunity again, would I do it? probably like talk like I'm just

I'm trying to be honest with myself and tell myself like do I regret it yes but I think I only regret it because of the way it ended I know myself I know full well yeah how did I know myself

so when I left that morning after we had made plans to do something the next day literally and then she just blocked me on everything. She blocked you. Yeah, Snapchat, Instagram.

We met on Hinge, so on Hinge on everything. So I had no way of contacting her or anything. That was just the end. Huh. Interesting. Now, I grew up in a time before this blocking thing. I don't know that I've ever blocked anyone. But, you know, did you have anything go?

south toward the end of the situation? No, literally nothing happened. I left. I left, like I said, we had plans. I left. I kissed her before I left. And then so everything was good when I left. And then she never talked to me until like four o'clock that night.

And then she just did. So here's a question. Did you tell her after you guys, when you guys were smoking a cigarette afterwards? did you tell her that was your first time? I think I might have mentioned it somewhere along the way, but it was hers too. Oh, my God.

Well, she's feeling the same thing you are, man. I know, and that's exactly, and that's exactly what I think happened, is she kind of just regretted it after, and then just decided to just end it, you know, kind of like to just forget about it and put it behind her, which I don't blame her for.

It is what it is. well it seems like there's a lot of pain going on here josh a lot of confusion perhaps and um you are talking to two people very unqualified to deal with that yeah you know that's like i we've spent a lot more time on this than i thought we were going to i wasn't yeah well you gave us a belly update and my god well the thing was I had something else I wanted to talk about, too. Please bring it up. Please. Well, I'm sure you guys remember, not too long after that episode aired,

somebody decided to call in and talk shit about me on a podcast. Our podcast. Your old friend, Timmy Tango. Yeah, dude, we're, we're, we have, talk about the clash of Titans. We, we, we,

we have the the the the the virgin interested in your sister and then we have timmy tango going to yoga classes trying to hook up with yeah the cougar rangler and josh the first timer um what did did did we talk shit i don't think we would have talked shit timmy did what did he said what did what was timmy spewing so he little the first time he called in he calls in and all he says Oh, that guy who was on your bellied up live, you want to talk to your sister. All he did was just crash and burn and this and that. And then I'm like, what the hell, dude? Like, what did I do to deserve that?

I mean, I also remember who's doing it. It's Timmy Tango. Come on. Timmy Tango doesn't think he speaks. Which is the gayest name I've ever heard. Oh, okay. Let's go. Wow.

Okay. Wow. We're just shoot. But also fuck you because we came up with that name. Yeah. Well, but then so when he called in, when he said that Charlie, Charlie came to my defense, which I was super impressed with considering he wanted to shoot me the first time. Yeah, I can't remember.

What did I say? Tell him what I said. So you said, I don't remember exactly. It was someone on the lines of like you were that I was on the spot talking to your sister. And like, you, you were empathizing with him. Yeah, you were just kind of, you know, he was just on the spot. He was whatever. polishing sandpaper, you know, which what I say to that is like, sure, but you, you called your sister.

And then literally the first thing she said was, oh, I have a boyfriend. Well, okay, that's the end of that. What am I, what am I supposed to do? Yeah, you did know she had a boyfriend before he called her, right? But I thought it'd be more entertaining, did not know. I like how Timmy Ting is getting turned on you here. Now, I like how he's, first of all, let me tell you this. All right, well, hold on.

Josh. Yeah. Let's get. I want to hear this Timmy Tango beef. Well, that's, I mean, okay, so like, that's my thing is like, well, she has a boyfriend. What am I supposed to do? What, like, I didn't crash and burn. I didn't do anything because what am I supposed to do?

Well, here's where you crashed and burned. First of all, we named Timmy Tango. So we named, we named them. And also, it's okay if it's a gay name. There's nothing wrong with that, you know? You would have hated our last call. Yeah. And Timmy Tango, let me tell you something about him.

that fella, he's just exploring the cougars. That man's going to be a full-on swinger at some day soon here. And he strikes me as a fellow that, I don't know, maybe he swings both ways. Maybe it's fine. I don't, you can do what he wants to do. I don't care. Yeah. And the other thing is you really crashed and burn when you said you wouldn't mow my

grandma's lawn because you're trying to date my sister. you're going to have to mow her on, you know, or you would at least say yes, you know, because otherwise I'm mowing it. And, you know, so I'm trying to, I was trying to give you ways to ingratiate yourself, what you passed. Yeah, well.

You passed on that grass. Yeah. Well, so that, but then the thing was after you, after that, you guys asked Timmy what he would have done different. Yeah. What did he say? Tell us our podcast. back to us. So you guys like role played of if he was talking to your sister. And he go and he just

starts talking about you, Charlie. Yeah, he burned that he crashed and burned too, didn't he? He just, yeah. He just is all like, he's like, oh, you know, I really like your brother's comedy. And I'm like, why the hell would he would, would, what Ellie would want to talk about Charlie? Ellie wants you to talk about her. Not yeah. She wants more interested in understanding. than being understood. So here, so here Timmy comes on and shits on me and then does the exact same thing I did.

Probably honestly, in my opinion, worse. Okay. So would you be willing to do a four-way call between us to you and Timmy and you guys hash it out at some point in the future? Hey,

I sure. I'm probably going to regret it because he's probably going to get, he's probably going to just, fry me but first of all sure I want so he roasted you I want you to roast back

well I kind of did when I called him gay he said he's got gay name but what else I don't think there's much roasting that needs to be done he kind of just does it himself he calls himself Timmy Tango

and goes to yoga we called him I don't Timmy Tango okay that's fine but I don't need to roast him he's just doing it himself so you're saying he's a desperate kid

I would say so look at you stirring this pot miles look at you I think so like sure I've got you know it's not like I'm super experienced and whatever but I got my standards and I live by that I'm not gonna you know I'm not going to violate my standards just to get just to get some you know um do you think um so you think timmy tango is just going about it wrong what should Timmy Tango be doing. I'm not saying Timmy's going about it wrong. He can do whatever he wants. But I'm just saying that that's, you know, that's, that's not, that's not the, that's just, you got standards and Timmy doesn't. Yeah. Timmy will do anything with a pulse is what you're saying. Exactly. Listen to Miles now. He's coaching you on how to roast a guy because you can't just call him gay like it's

1999. People embrace that these days. It's 20, for God's sake. It's 2026. Whatever. But you get the point. And also, I think that you gotta really, I think what you're pointing out here is you're projecting a bit of, you know, the guilt. You're still hurting about your first time. And also, you're a guy talking about standards and whatnot.

you had sex for the first time with stinky morning breath and a twin XL mattress in a dorm. So let's say, let's maybe reflection here. What if you're missing out on a good friend here with Timmy Tango? Yeah, truly, maybe Timmy and I would get along great. I tell you what, me is like my best friends have completely different personalities than me. and Timmy and I are up I seem to be very opposite of each other. And honestly, it does take two to tango and you guys. It does.

To do the dance. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe it's a cool name. Nope. I'm passing on that. Well, maybe I'm not doing the tango with Timmy. Well, no.

Well, you never know. Maybe. Hey, that's the thing that you're holding on deep inside. We don't know. And that's fine. That's totally cool. My dad thinks I'm gay. So.

Well. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I actually think I'm getting lying, though. We all got dads like that. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, okay, okay. Hey, what your friends, you said you got them. What did they say about your first date situation?

So I actually only two of them know about it. That's not true. Now they're all going to know. So one of them He knew I was with her that night And so he asked me about it the next morning And he was He was kind of like just as surprised

And like whatever that I was The way that she reacted at the air The way that she had you know just blocked me at the end And the same way that he just like didn't understand it Like why like what the hell happened kind of thing. Okay, well, hey, hey, look at this. We got time. I bet you this gal.

Maybe she's listening right now. What would you like to say to her? Yeah, yeah. Had she not blocked you? I would like to say, I'm sorry that if, you know, maybe you weren't ready to do that. And I would love to have another opportunity of, and to not, and if you don't want to do that ever again,

I will not, we have to do. we we can get married and die and never do it again i don't care i just want would like another chance oh oh so you're saying you've had sex with sex once you're good you're you're good for life now that's not no that's not what i'm saying but that's my point i know that's kind of what i said but that's not my point is like that i read my point is i realize that that's probably what caused her to but ghost me was the fact that she wanted. But you actually liked her so much that you would be willing to get married and never have sex again as long as you could be married to her?

Well, that was kind of an exaggeration. My point was that my point was that my point was that we just, I, we don't need to, like, that's not, I don't need, I don't need that specifically out of relationship. like that's not what I'm looking for. I don't want her to think I'm just. That's not your number one priority is what you're saying. Right. I don't want her to think that I'm just some player that only wants to just sleep with women all the time. That's not what I.

You're not a Timmy Tango is what you're saying. Exactly. That's not what I'm looking for kind of thing. Okay. Got it. We got to get you. I'm looking for a relationship. I'm looking for a wife.

Whoa. How old are you again? 20. Got it. Well, I'm not seeing like I want like that I'm not going to date a girl because I don't want to marry. Yeah, we got it. The end goal for me is marriage is to have a family is to get married and have a family. It's good.

Yeah, I mean, you got a lot going on right now. Yeah. And you know what? I think I'll go ahead, Josh. I was just to say, you know, I'm doing pretty well for myself on my own. I like don't get me wrong I'd love to have somebody else but like I I'm perfectly fine on my own too you know I don't got to spend I don't got I don't got I don't got spend money on her I don't you know I got myself a new job since I met you guys I got myself a new car I got you know I'm I'm doing I'm doing fine you know I don't need no woman I don't got to spend any money on her I don't got to listen to her nag me all day yeah I don't need a woman. I want one, but I don't need it.

I'm doing just fine. You are doing just fine, Josh. And listen, don't let, you know, the first, you know, situation. It's always awkward, you know, anytime you do it. So just kind of give everyone sort of a shot there. You know, you don't need to go totally into yourself. You know, keep putting yourself out there. I think that's a thing.

I think that, you know, we can find a nice middle ground between Josh and Timmy Tango. Like, you don't need to be. we're meeting the middle with timmy tango maybe don't go to uh Pilates classes geared toward uh post menopausal um things but but maybe go to a Pilates class you mean you mean women i don't know they have these post menopausal uh Pilates classes and um imagine tango going to a class like that i think didn't he say he was going to it he does yeah he was he was going you don't have to imagine and he does that. But what I'm saying is maybe...

Like they're specifically four... I didn't really... I missed that part. I thought they were just yoga classes that post-menopausal women were going to. Maybe I miss heard that. I thought he was going to... That's extra funny.

That's what he's doing. Maybe it's not specifically directed at them, but that's who goes. Yeah, yeah. The only people who do that. Oh, maybe it was he was going to a certain time of day or something. That was it. Yeah.

Yeah, he was having coffee with him. Just just keep, keep your heart open my guy heaven is out there okay and um yeah you know just just keep hanging in there all right yeah well hey can i say one thing before you got before i let you guys go charge yeah i'm gonna get sappy on you guys i know you don't like that but okay i just i you know with all this that goes on you know like again it had been three years without a date this and that you know i wasn't always in the greatest emotional state, you know, kind of thing. And I just being able to listen to you guys, listen to your podcasts, turn on bellyed up

or YBR or Patreon or watch your skits on YouTube, whatever it may be. I'm not going to say it saved my life. I was never going to kill myself. But like, you guys truly changed my life. life, you know, to be able to smile listening to you guys. And even though I might not physically be there to be able to feel like that I'm part of the conversation and being in on all the inside jokes kind of thing and all this whatever, what have you, you know, it makes you, it really made me feel a lot better about things, you know? And I just, I want you, I hope, I just want to make

sure you guys realize how big of an impact you guys really have you know a lot of people might want to say oh I'm not that famous I'm not that whatever and that's fine but I just you guys have and it's I know I'm not the only person that who feels that way about or that you guys have affected in that way wow so I just want you guys to know that you guys have made a much bigger impact on people's lives than you might realize well as two guys who have a real hard time taking a compliment this is difficult no we i mean we really appreciate it it's uh and also hearing that stuff does because there's sometimes where we're like this is tough you know we're we're trying to find a way to be funny or entertaining or whatever and then hearing stuff like that

reminds us why we do it it makes all the bars we go to in the middle of a work day worth it Yeah, you know. Sincerely, Josh, we do thank you, and we thank you for coming on. And, you know, it'll be good to see him in person again. Maybe the next bellied up live, Josh. I would love to. Maybe we'll get you and Timmy in person together. Maybe.

Timmy, if you're out there, we found. We can throw hands on stage. Yeah, I thought we were maybe done with Timmy, but he's back. Timmy's back, baby. I think you and Timmy would be great friends, and I think you'll learn a lot from each other. And, you know, maybe. Maybe what you're looking for is a 28-year-old. You never know.

No, but it's okay. Well, dude, one, we appreciate the kind words. Like I said, that means a lot and reminds us why we do this and makes it all worth it. And so we appreciate that, dude. We appreciate you listening. And also, we appreciate you being a good sport and letting us kind of roast you a little bit. Yeah. Oh, of course. And you know, see, that's the kind of thing. Like when I, I don't know if you remember when I was there in Milwaukee, like when I came on stage and I backed you guys up when everybody else was just shaking her hands like this is a business meeting. I'm like, that's something I, that I also just love about you guys is the way that you make all of, like, I feel like I know you guys like my best friends. Wow. You know, you guys, the way you interact with the just your senses of humor, your, to your shows and your everything, the way you interact with the people. who call in and such like that. It's, it's like I could genuinely sit down with you at a bar and have a good

time. Yeah. And that was why I was like when I was there and I dapped you up, I was like, I'm not going to shake your hand. This isn't a business meeting. Like I feel like I know you guys like my best friends. Wow. Well, you know what? We are here for you, Josh. Okay. We are and hope to see at a, at a bar sometime here soon. And when you see us, yeah, you come on up and you you dab or go for the full hug. Maybe I have a hug to start, you know. But I'm gonna give you a hug, Charlie. Yeah, we'll get him for a full hug. Charlie actually likes it when you get to do a little grab assing on them too.

I, yeah. On occasion. On occasion. Yeah. You got buy him dinner first, though. Buy is a key word there. I'll find you in a bar and I'll buy you around and then I can grab your ass. Yeah, that's how I like it.

Josh, that's how I like it. All right. Well, listen, my guy, thank you for calling in. Tell your mom and your brother, we say hi. And I will. Yeah, make sure your mom listens to this episode. Yeah, I'm probably going to get kicked out of the house now. No, Josh, come on.

They might kick you into the attic or something. But also, 20 years old, you got your new job, new car. Time to move out, my guy. Kick yourself out of the house. I'm trying. I'm trying. But, yeah, you know, it takes a lot more than you think. Yeah.

No, I know it. I know. I've been working trying to buy some land. recently and even land is like $30,000 an acre in this area so 30,000 an acre 20 to 30 for residential land yeah oh and ash gosh gosh in the like yeah north of fondalac yeah yeah between like van die in between them oh sure yeah um get out and do some fishing that clears your mind walleyzer biting i don't really fish but i'll hit the golf course go fit the golf course go fit Go fish on the golf course.

Go golf, get pissed. It's really therapeutic. There you go. Yeah. It just makes you get mad at something that's not what's currently making you mad. Yeah. And somehow you work it out, you know. So, well, thank you for calling.

We do appreciate the kind words, Josh. Talk to you again. Get out there. Thank you, guys. All right. Thanks, guys. All right. Bye-bye.

Well, Miles, that was really nice to hear, wasn't it? That was a. roller coaster. Yeah. God. Why did we play this game? What was happening? Oh my gosh.

All right. No, I think that that was good. I feel like we actually came around. We got a new beef that we just started and I'm excited for that. So Jared, good luck. We need you to, we need you to coordinate the beef. Let's wrangle those two. I would love.

Yeah, we found a new bit. You know, we haven't had any callers mad at other callers yet. I know. I like this. Yeah, it's real good. I feel like we're kind of, you know, we're like the bar podcast belly version of Jerry Springer right now. Exactly.

Someone throwing bars. That would be great. That would be real cool. We should do that. So if anyone else has beef with collars that we've currently had, we'd love to. Or we could like reveal a paternity test. Oh, yeah.

I would love to reveal a paternity test. So yeah, if you have any of that stuff, call the bellied up hotline. What's the bellied up hotline? 2.1. We should be shouting out the bellied up hotline. [phone]. All right. 218 303-5-0-9-9-5.

Call the belly-up hotline, leave a voicemail. We want to hear your stuff. We want to get you on the bellied-up podcast. Sure do. Should we take another caller? Let's do it. Miles. Everyone knows this about you.

What's the number one thing you hate in the entire world? Son in my eyes. Glare. Glare. I'm not a glare guy now. No, you hate it. I actually think we were walking through the woods the other day and you're like, you know what I hate Miles?

Glare. I was like, where are my shady rays? I know. That's what I said to you. I said, Miles, I got glare in the eyes. Which I despise. what a better day if I had my Shady Ray

and I said that exactly and it's true and guys Shady Rays has polarized langes that absolutely cut glare hard they're just like slicing and dicing not only they cut glare they're super clear optics they have durable frames with solid hinges you know what you know what rhymes with orange

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Insane price. So get geared up for the summer and cut the glare like Charlie. Cut the glare. Get yourself some shady. Shady raise. All right, folks. Go ahead, Charlie. I was just going to say,

Miles said we got our buddy Russell Nicolace and right here next to us. What's up, fellas? We're just chilling. What about you? Just chilling at the bar, bellied up to the bar with you, folks. Hey, Russell, have you ever walked out of a bar

on a cold winter's day? Found out that the sidewalk outside the bar was slippery, went ass over tea kettle, and bonked your head. Think you might have gotten a concussion, didn't know what to do, and you're like,

what do I do? And you're like, I call myself. Yeah. Have you ever had a conversation with yourself over the phone about a potential injury? Yeah, it's kind of weird when you're like asking the question, then you're answering it. But it works. But yeah, usually if I were to get injured, so there's like this old saying that the lawyer who represents himself as a fool for a lawyer. Something like that. Basically, you're a moron for doing that. Yeah, you should really shouldn't represent yourself. And I, so not on injury cases, but other stuff in the past I have. And it never, it's always better, in my opinion, to get a lawyer, even if it's like one of your buddies because they're more objective and they're like, you know, don't, you know, versus you using your emotion and just personal thoughts on it. So I think it's always helpful.

I mean, fortunately for me, like once I went to Laskin became a lawyer, then my younger brother, both my younger brothers followed me became a lawyer. So I could just really just hire one of my brothers. Yeah. a lot of other good lawyers too so i would probably just have one of them if i were to get injured you know walking out of the bar so your brother to do a pro bono it's all good yeah i mean he would have to wait actually he'd probably like here's your bill oh yeah i mean i'll be like i owe you yeah you got to have one with a tab open on don't you oh you know how brothers are right like you you always you owe each other's stuff and sometimes you remember sometimes you don't sometimes they remind you

all the time i don't know yeah you can't do you just put them in a headlock yeah it's a professional them hold it against you for your life. Show cold. Put you in a show cold. Tap her out. I found out what the Barron's family greeting is yesterday at Charlie's office. What's that? His brother just walked up to him and pretended to kick him in the nuts.

And then Charlie did it back to him. And I was like, that was the family chairman. That was the family barons greeting. Is that the, was that John? Yeah, John. Yeah, we kind of, we grew up roughhousing, you know. And then, yeah, I mean, if you throw a ball around me, I'll flinch. that's how you know what kind of household I grew up in.

Yeah. But yeah, we do that. Do your brothers greet with a little sack tap ever? No. It's weird. Like, we generally don't do that. But my kids, like, that's what I was trying to figure out. Like, what am I raising?

Because they rough, house, like, and they just attack each other all the time. And then I was so, I guess, you know, that's how the Barron's family did it. Yeah. And my kids, because I got six boys. They, like, literally, they're all the time. I'm throwing stuff. But we were just, when I was telling you, we were up snowboarding. Six boys.

The first thing to do is they get in a pool. It's freezing cold, right? We're trying to get in the pool and stay warm. One of them throws a ball and hits the other in the eye. Like, dude, you just got in the pool. So, like, to your point, that's what they do. Wow, you took six boys snowboarding? Any girls?

Well, my wife came, but yeah, she. No, but do you just have any girls? Oh, my God. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, well, then you got a basketball team and a six man. Like, let's true. Does everyone say your poor wife?

They do. They're like, are you guys going to have another? You're looking for a, get ready for a girl? You can try it for a girl. It's like, we tried that. I mean, I've got six boys. Russell, it's always a pleasure, though. It really is, man.

Yeah, thanks for having me, guys. I appreciate it. But guys, go to nicoletlaw.com or call 1-855 Nicolet and get a hold of Russell and his team. All right, before we take another caller, we're going to give two other cards to ask this next caller. Miles. Let's exchange the car.

cards. Okay. Miles, you gave me the card. Are you missing anyone right now? Fuck. Do you think they are missing you too? If this turns into somebody's dead grandpa, dude. That was unbelievable. I forgot about that. Why would you bring that up? Why would you talk? He doesn't want to talk about that. I wanted to immediately tell him we were playing the game. No. Before John. All right, mine is,

what can we create together. Yeah, at least like, yours is a natural question. Like, maybe that would get asked. No one would ask that. Yeah. This is like if you go to like a marketing conference

or like a sales conference, they would be like, don't ask them what you can do for them. Ask them what we can create together. And you know someone's playing this game with their like girlfriend. They're like a baby, you know? Thomas.

Hey, what's going on? Are we talking to Thomas? Yes, you are. You got Charlie and Miles from the Bellied Up podcast. How are we doing? Doing pretty good. Are you guys? Good.

How's the concrete business going these days for you, Thomas? Busier than shit. That's good news. Very good. Yeah, can't complain about that. Where are you doing concrete at? What part of the country? Metro Milwaukee area.

So in Charlie's neck of the woods. No kidding. All right. Yeah. Real good. Okay. Any mob affiliation or? Not yet.

I mean, if somebody's offering. Hey. This is good. It's kind of like a buy seller trade. You're looking to buy a connection to the mom. What does a body do to the structural integrity of concrete? Of a baseball stadium. Yeah.

It's cool to be on with you guys. Thanks for going. They do say that what's his name? It was under County Stadium. The Teamster guy. What's his name? The mob guy. Jimmy Hoffa.

Yeah. That's what I was referring to. Oh, that's what you were referring to. Yeah. I didn't know you knew that piece of Milwaukee history. Jake loves spewing useless knowledge. I mean, when we drive into Milwaukee. That's not useless.

It did use it just now. Right. Frick. Damn it, Jake. Thomas, what's on your mind, my guy? Well, I just thought, I just thought Miles and I kind of had a lot in common. So I don't know if Jared played you guys the voicemail.

But so I recently just had a kid and named him Miles. Oh my God. And so yeah, I mean, we're, you know, eating us. So now he's got a dad who's a concrete guy. And Miles, I don't know if your dad was a football coach, but I'm also a football coach. No, he wasn't a football coach, but. No, he wasn't a coach, but all right. No, he was my baseball coach.

He was my baseball coach for a few years. Wow. So you got a lot in common with Miles' dad here. You both named your son Miles. You both own a concrete company. And your kid's going to spend his whole life trying to get his approval. Get your approval. Did you spell Miles with a Y or an eye?

No, it's with an eye. Okay. All right. You pissed out, dude. Come on. Yeah, fuck you. on her way on our way to the hospital my wife asked me because she was talking she's like if i she's like if i got to go under for something she's like how are we going to spell these names

and i i definitely botched it i definitely spelled it with a why and that's not what you want it ah okay so she she uh said no to the why okay that's fine if you got vetoed i'm cool with that yeah no no i this is i had no power here well that's great well thomas bellion up to the bar and tell us a little bit about what kind of concrete are you doing you doing mostly commercial residential flat work and pouring basements what are we talking i am uh i am all residential flat work in basements about every other day nice nice basement floors then yes sir which house are you most proud of oh i don't know there's uh well you might you might actually seen the the real on instagram if you scroll through. There's a there's a giant mansion that somebody built on an Okachi Lake

that just kind of sticks out like a sore thumb. I poured all the inside work at that house. Wow. You are famous. He's rolling in it. A no, Kachi. How did it feel the poorest swingers basement? Oh, man, that guy, that guy is something else. So just leave it at that. I don't even know who it is. I just know it's on Okachi Lake. And that's what. where you're going to party. Yeah, where there's some extra rooms in the basement that you had to account for? Yeah, it just, well, normally, I mean, normally it takes one day to pour a basement floor. This one took four.

So, yeah, you got that, uh, eyes wide shut room down there. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's, I didn't, I almost had to pour a tunnel for somebody up in Fondelac. That was fun. No kidding. What do you mean almost had to pour a tunnel? he he scrapped the project after it already uh we we bit everything out and then he scrapped the project where was the tunnel going to uh or the guest house ah hmm yeah yeah these people

these people got a little bit of money yeah and fondalac yeah he uh his place is on the uh well yeah it's on the south southeast side and you can see pretty much all of fondalac from this back from his back porch he's kind of up on a bluff oh yeah they got the uh the hill land over there uh yeah interesting interesting okay not not many guys can see all a fondlac from their uh so so thomas how'd you get into the concrete game uh so i'm actually third generation my my grandpa started it back in the 80s and uh then my dad took it over and now i got it okay so here's a question for you, notorious family business. Gen 3 fucks it up and go out of business.

Are you nervous about that? I mean, it's crossed my mind. It's in the back of there. We're going to do everything to, you know, not fuck it up. So, but I think, I think we got to do it on. I'm doing one on Wednesday. Let's go. What kind of stamp are we talking?

It's the herringbone pattern. Oh, wow. Like wood plank. hearing bone or or stalled? The brick. The brick. Yeah. What's your least favorite concrete job?

Oh, least favorite. If there's multiple levels on a single slab, like if somebody like puts multiple steps on like a single slab going out the back, that's, that's annoying. So it looks cool when it's done, but it just takes a lot of work for not a lot of,

not a lot of reward. do you charge extra for it just for the nuisance fee well of course Charlie yeah well Charlie did you get out do you get out fishing this last weekend yeah my dad got 26 inch walleye can you believe that oh we got you beat by one inch my friend shut up story of church life come on now where were you yeah uh let's see do you know where the uh you where the big old plain flowages. Yeah. The big old plain flowage.

Yep. It's in between Marshfield and Wausau. Oh. Wausau? I've never, I've never fished over there. You noticed how you asked Charlie. You asked Charlie I was fishing when he said out what his dad caught.

Oh, I caught a lot of wall eyes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, if I'm, if I'm being honest, I was not the fellow who caught the 27 incher, but I was present for it.

Yeah. I'm just bragging about someone else's fish. That's how my weekend went. But I did catch a decent amount of wall eyes, but not too. Probably biggest one was 15, which honestly, I'm okay with that.

Yeah, that's not a bad day. So, yeah. I think we, I think we hauled in like right around 30 total. Not keepers, obviously,

but caught about 30 of them on Saturday. How many did you clean? I think like four weekends. I cut my, I cut my finger cleaning fish. See that? Oh, poor guy. A little, little poke there. That's okay.

Yeah. It's how it goes. You got to be careful of that. I know. Knives are sharp. Did you know that, Miles? I do. Well, Thomas, what do you think?

What do you think we can create together, you and I? What do you think we could create? Yeah, out of concrete. I don't know I don't know I don't know What's your Have you ever

You ever you've ever You've ever had concrete dreams Miles Yeah I do What's your what's your wildest concrete dream My current concrete dream Is Charlie's been bitching about his deck falling apart And it's taken every bone in my body

To not suggest he put up a little retaining Concrete retaining wall and pour a slab I knew you were going to suggest a slav to slab. But hey, but I didn't, right? No. Because I knew you're going to be like, I don't want that shit. Oh, they're back here. This is one with nature. And I put a slab right there, Miles. The reason I'm not putting them here is the freaking slabs are expensive. No, I'm putting, uh, they, they, where they put the footers, they didn't put any footers because they, it's right where you put the footers where two trees are. So they, and it's a pretty critical part of the deck, I would

So now what I've decided, because I had a bunch of my dad's friends over here all looking at it. They were all trying to determine the best thing for it. And when dads get together, start determining things, we came up with a solution that may work. That just means they care about you. If they're staying in your backyard trying to figure out a project, it means they care about it. They do care. And honestly, I like what they came up with. Or they just don't want to go home to their wives.

You never know what the old guys. Yeah. You never do. No, I mean, this is a log, a log situation. A lot of the log guys, they don't always, it's kind of good for as long as the log lasts, you know. So, you know, we can make some concrete look like logs. Oh, wow.

Maybe that's what you guys can create together. Yeah. Yeah, we got just a giant wood plank stamp. Get some brown, get some brown concrete in there. Mm-hmm. With some, with some, with some, with some release and some. Yeah. Yeah.

Make it look, make it look real snazy. What's your, get you, get you a pair of concrete boots and get you in there, Charlie. Yeah. I would like that. Charlie doing that. I like that. What's your, what's your footer method? What's my footer method?

Do you use like a sonatube or what? Oh, yeah, it would probably, yeah, I'd probably use some sonat tubes all the way. it's you just I don't know always does it does it have to be kind of up and does it have to be up in the air can we do some steps out the door and just go right on the right on the ground I thought you didn't want to do steps well I mean I said I didn't like them doesn't mean I can't um no I got the tube I'm going tube tube method but um yeah I didn't know if you had some like favorite way to do it or whatever oh no no no no favorite one well the easiest one is my favorite one is my favorite

favorite. Yeah. Yeah, you and me both. See, look. Look at that. So you guys, what are we creating together? I forget where we end up with making you a new patio. Oh, that's right. Yeah, we're going to make you a deck. I don't know. Judging from the condition of your, of the house that I've, that I've heard, it sounds like you might need a driveway too. What? Who was talking smack about my driveway? And I, nobody about the driveway. I just, I mean, you said it, I, I, there'd you say a one episode, your house is a piece of crap. So, no. Just figured that.

That's the duplex. Oh, the duplex. Well, there were a lot of problems with the duplex. I put a lot of energy into that. You know, you don't always know what you're buying until it's too late. Or you could just do your due diligence. I had a friggin' inspector there, Miles. They missed quite a bit.

That's what I want to be. Did you bring your dad there? Did he walk through it? after the fact. Yeah, I know. That's your problem. You got to bring your dad in before. They didn't see shit that inspectors never will.

My, you know how hard it is to buy anything? You got to like make an offer as you're leaving the place, you know. Not as much nowadays. Well, when back when I bought this, yeah. And I was living in my sister's basement. So I was desperate. But yeah. Your realtor's wet dream.

Divorce guy living in a. his sister's basement. Actually, I had to be out. So I really needed whatever. Who's being evicted by his sister? My sister. I tell you this, she was so pissed at me that I wasn't gave my stuff out of her basement.

She moved all of it to the front lawn. Oh my God. She threw stuff out the window. The way my dad, if we didn't clean our room, see to open the window and throw the shit out the window. That's what she did to me. And she wouldn't even come downstairs. She just yelled at me from the top. and she said, I told you.

That's crazy. You guys are kind of a Jerry Springer family a little bit. A little bit, dude. All my, the worst part is nobody stole any of my stuff. Why would they want your stuff? I've seen you stuff. That's exactly the thing. Charlie's prize possession in this cabin are these little owl wood figurines.

It's a cool owl, dude. No one's going to steal those, I promise. Well, those were not sitting in the front lawn, but I guarantee you that owl right there, that one would have been stolen. I'm going to show it to you after. And the soap rock one. Anyways,

here, I was curious, though, are you missing anyone right now? And do you think they're missing you too? I don't know. I mean, I was,

no, not really. I don't think so. I mean, I'm on the way to pick up my son from daycare, but, I think Miles might be missing you. yeah yeah he might be i don't know if he knows quite who i am yet because i don't i don't have

anything he wants so nice there you go you're talking the milk how old is he uh two months oh wow wow yeah yeah yeah he still got goo on him oh yeah fresh fresh freshly out of there what's it like being a new dad uh it's pretty wild especially uh didn't it didn't get any time off had to go right to work. So I think we got home from the hospital on Sunday. I went to work on Monday. It was awesome. There you go. So you're not giving yourself any paternity leave, huh? No. No, there's none of that. Not with our size of company. So we're just, we're just small guys. So yeah. Got about six, six guys. Let's call. Yeah. Well, if you really wanted it, I think you know a guy to make it happen.

yeah so when the boss is okay the way yeah well hopefully they don't play too much i'm paying them yeah that's true that is true like how he finished it there too i got a question for you go for it i want you to tell me if you've ever done the you see you're the boss yeah tell me if you've ever done these moves have you ever all right if you ever made your guys do some shit that you knew that they were going to hate and that it was just like even your like, God, I would hate to do this, but we got to do it and they're going to hate me for it. At the end of day, do you show up with either ice cream bars or a case of beer to smooth it over with them? I've definitely, I've definitely smooth things over with, not necessarily beer because of my builders don't like that, but the case of a monster goes over goes real far.

Wow. Wow. It's like that is the blue color equivalent to a, uh, uh, a cool color equivalent to a, uh, uh, corporate pizza party. Thank you. Thank you for sacrificing your soul to us. Here's a pizza party. Thank you for breaking your back for us.

Here's a couple of beers. Here's some liquid cocaine. Which flavor did you get them? They're regular, regular guys. Oh, wow. You got some real concrete guys. They're drinking diesels. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Just the straight black. Well, I think they got the black ops can still. Wow. Those guys probably aren't even Zinnin. They're probably still doing cigarettes. God, dang. Actually, we don't have a single smoker on our crew. Wow. What are they chewing? I know. Well, that I don't care. As long as it stays in there, I don't care.

But, oh, I'll tell you this, we had a, I had to work a Saturday a few weeks back. And a couple of the guys liked to go out and party. And they had just gotten paid on Friday. So I had to give some incentive. show up on Saturday. So I offered them a case of beer just to just to show up on Saturday. And they were there. The two guys that normally don't show up were there 45 minutes early. Because they never went to bed. They're waiting to fix that hangover. Yeah, they definitely weren't. They definitely weren't the greatest that day, but they were there. Every time that in college, when my dad knew that we went out the night before and we'd show up a little

late. He'd always, we always knew we were in trouble because he'd have his nail belt on and he would be in the hole doing the work that we were supposed to be doing. And then you know, then you'd know it you screwed up. Yeah. And then he'd hover over you and watch every detail make you redo shit that didn't need to be redone. Sucked. And you're hungover. And you're hungover. Yeah, yeah, I've been there. One day you'll get to do that with young fourth generation, Miles. Yeah. Are you going to push the concrete? Oh, go ahead.

Oh, Miles, what was that one thing that your dad came home and just like it was like required for the job? But it was just a simple task that he didn't want to do. So he told you as like young kids to do it. Like when I was a kid, what I had to help him with? Yeah. I remember I'd have to put stamps on his letters. Because back then you had to like lick the stamps. He didn't like doing that.

He also would make me help him stake out lots. And I'd have to carry the stakes around behind him and then also hold his tapes for him. You're just trips him behind him all Saturday. Yeah. Yeah. You're like his tool belt. Yeah. Honestly.

I knew that tackle box name came from somewhere. Yeah. Yeah, tackle box. That's basically what I was at that point. Yeah. That's fun stuff. Well, dude, we appreciate you calling in. We appreciate talking to you. This is great. Yeah. And congrats on little baby Miles. Well, yeah. Sounds like a good kid. Everything I've heard about him. He's a good kid. All right. Yeah. He might be on the podcast scene in about 20 years. There we go. So, all right. Thanks, guys.

Have a good day. You'd be good. We'll see you soon. That's cute, Miles. Got a kid named after you? Yeah, you a little bit jealous. Pretty jealous. And we're kind of flirting there for a while.

Yeah. I was like cuckin over here. I felt like I was in that Oconomaweg basement, Ocachi Lake basement. Yeah. That's all right. I've heard of the mansion on Okadji Lake. He heard of that. He must be a pretty big deal.

He's only got a crew of six, so that definitely was quite the project for him. Must have really beat everyone on the bid. Yeah, that's the old right there. It must have undercut everyone. Man. I got a voice, man. Okay.

All right. James. James. Hi, Miles, Charlie, and Jared. My name is James. I'm 23, and this is my girlfriend Katie, also 23. Hi, I'm Katie. And this is more so for Miles and you betcha, but we recently watched the movie Fargo,

and my girlfriend Katie from Mississippi does the voice really well. Go ahead and tell him. Oh, yeah, you betcha. Wow. She's pretty good at it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Okay, thanks, bye. I like that. That was great. It was good. Katie, good job. From Mississippi, too. I mean, that took some skill. I like that she did it.

And then he's just like, yeah. Yeah. He was pretty good. I was very good. I wonder if like down there in Mississippi, the northern accent kind of turns them on sort of, you know, a little bit. You know, like it's exotic, you know. I would confidently say it.

there's anyone in the world that goes, wow, the Midwestern accent is just sexy. Oh, there's a lot of people that think it's sexy, Miles. Really? Yeah. Really? Yeah, they're out there. I bet if they pulled the United States and said, which is the least sexy accent, it would probably be Midwestern, especially. Even Minnesota specifically. I don't know. I don't know. That kind of... Well, this is great. If anyone is out there who isn't from the Midwest who thinks the Midwestern accent is sexy.

We'd love to talk to you. Give the number. What is it? 218-303-5095. Look at the brain on Miles. Oh, it's time to open our card, Miles. Oh, yeah, the final card. The final card.

Do-do-do-do. Oh, it comes with a piece of paper. Oh, God. What the fuck is this? game. All right. The final card. Do you want me to do the honors, Miles? I'm going to do it. Okay. Each player write a message to the other. Fold and exchange open only once you two have parted. Okay. So we'll read it. One of us will go in the other room and you can read it. Okay. All right. All right. All right, folks. Is that it on this episode, Jared? All right. We're going to end the episode. Charlie and I are doing the final card.

Oh, yeah. Okay. And then you give me my, you give me that. No, no, no. You don't get to look at it until you come back. Charlie's going to go in the other room. I'm going to read it. All right.

Here we go. Dear Miles, thank you for what you brought to the bellied up podcast today. Oh, my. This is mine. Okay. All right. I'm so glad he's going second.

Thank you for what you brought to the bellied up podcast today. you inspired the masses yet again. Some, so me, Tom even named his spawn after you. You're a friend to everyone. I'm not Josh in you. Get it? Let's create something together.

Also, want to change my air filter or no? Your pal Charlie. Tip your bartender, you cheap, fuck. That's me. Okay. Wow. That was actually really nice. I am slightly regretting my message, but, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll go. I'll go outside. I'll go to Charlie. The smile are from Miles. Dear Charles, if you're reading this, I'm probably dead. Just know I'm doing okay. I left some cash under the mattress for you to finally get that penis enlargement surgery. Thank you, Miles.

I know you desperately needed it. Happy stroken love Miles. That it, my, I, you know, Miles. Miles. Stop projecting your penis stuff onto your buddy. You can't hear me? I'm going to go hit them in the dick. message miles

change my air filter yeah okay hope you guys have a good one goodbye now ootoooo